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Date:         Thu, 31 May 2001 21:28:48 -0700
Reply-To:     Alfred Lee <alfred1520@YAHOO.COM>
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Hi,

For what its worth, I have written a program to do partial APRS using
Baycom modem:

http://www.geocities.com/alfred1520/#dlgviewer

Pictures of the setup are at:

http://www.geocities.com/alfred1520/myaprs/myaprs.htm

The version available from the site has only minimal functions.
A fuller featured function version is written and functioning but
is not available from the site because no documentation is
created.

I use maps available from the Tiger map server and will do
sinusoidal projection.

Best Regards,
Alfred


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From: Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Date: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: APRS Re: LX GPS / MapBlast / Kopplin's CGI:


Werner,

> I tried this with my APRS program, but the maps you get from mapblast have
> not the right projection for this, and the larger the map the larger the
> mistake.
> I think the same will be true for LX-GPS.

Are you running APRS on your 200lx?  If so, I'd be interested in your
setup?

Thanks,

Marcus
zaaap@ix.netcom.com

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Date:         Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:56:41 +0200
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Hello,

I noticed that using Fn+Space zoom when running Minix enters @
(caret at) at the command line and often results in the user being
kicked off to login screen. Also, you cannopt move around the
frame window when in zoom mode in Minix, unlike to DOS.
Is there a fix to this problem? Zoom is much needed for MinixLX!

BTW, it is interesting that 80/64 char modes are normal font in
Minix, but 40 coloumns is in Italics? How do they do that? Can
Andrews be used in Minix?

Thanks in advance, Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:13:21 -0500
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Hello,

I've got some computer stuff on eBay you may be interested in,
including an AC adapter for your lx, a used 2gb Jaz disk and a Pinnacle
Micro 2.6gb Magneto-Optical drive that works in DOS, Win or Mac.

If you're interested please check the link below. Thanks!

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsLinkBUttons&userid=tomsalwasser

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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hi Marcus,

no I am not using the HP200 for APRS, but it was reported that AprsDos
should run on it. I use UI_view32 on a desktop and mobile only the THD7E.
Maybe somebody on the list has more experience with Dos Aprs than I have.


73!
Werner
OE9FWV


on 31 May 2001, at 8:21 Marc - wrote about:
Re: APRS Re: LX GPS / MapBlast / Kopplin's CGI:

> Werner,
>
> > I tried this with my APRS program, but the maps you get from mapblast have
> > not the right projection for this, and the larger the map the larger the
> > mistake. I think the same will be true for LX-GPS.
>
> Are you running APRS on your 200lx?  If so, I'd be interested in your
> setup?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marcus
> zaaap@ix.netcom.com
>



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Date:         Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:43:48 -0700
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Jeff, are you atill reading the list? If so, can you please
contact me at this address (above) od sponsor@ftel.net.

Thank you!

  Avi M. D&A
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Take a look at my trainsch program on super the source code shows some
simple codes for changing the zoom levels. I'm sure a simple C program could
be written in Minix that would do it.

Has anyone gotten Minix to transfer data to/from the DOS drives?


-----Original Message-----
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Tamas Feher
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:57 AM
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Subject: Minix problem with zooming.


Hello,

I noticed that using Fn+Space zoom when running Minix enters @
(caret at) at the command line and often results in the user being
kicked off to login screen. Also, you cannopt move around the
frame window when in zoom mode in Minix, unlike to DOS.
Is there a fix to this problem? Zoom is much needed for MinixLX!

BTW, it is interesting that 80/64 char modes are normal font in
Minix, but 40 coloumns is in Italics? How do they do that? Can
Andrews be used in Minix?

Thanks in advance, Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:34:55 +0100
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Subject:      200LX & PCcard brands
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Hi All,

Does anyone keep an up-to-date list of PCCards that are known to work in the
palmtop? The information I found on HPLX net are a bit outdated.

It would be interesting to keep a listing of the 33.6/56K modems brands
that are known to work properly in the palmtop (i.e. not to much power
consumption).

We could do the same for the large flash cards (PCMCIA or Compact flash with
adapter) over 220MB, that work in the palmtop with proper driver (I khow
Sandisk cards are working, but what about e.g. Synchrotech?).

Also. more seldomly used cards (Ethernet, multifunctions...)
might be of interest.

If this kind information is not yet available on the net, I can try to put
it together from individual replies to this message, and upload it on the
HPLX ring.

One side question. Does anyone have experience in making the palmtop
communicate with a Casio QV 3000 digital Camera (by serial or IR port)?
Serial seems easier (no IRDA pb.), but I guess some piece of software is
needed on the palmtop side to handle the digital camera download protocol.
I know there is something for Kodak Camera and if anyone knows exactly what
it does (or better, if source code is available), that would be a good
starting point for me to put something together.

Thanks in advance for sharing your experience. You might reply to me
individually, and I will keep the list informed.

Regards,

Francois Ennesser
Paris, France

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Date:         Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:23:22 -0700
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> Has anyone gotten Minix to transfer data to/from the DOS drives?

I have looked at this off and on since Mack released his
version for the LX, but I have had no success at all.

For the purpose of getting files in and out, if you run
minix from a flash card, you could pop this into a laptop and
run it from there, then dos{dir|read|write} will work (although
I don't think the capability is compiled into the kernel as
distributed).

But I keep hoping to access the LX drives directly
myself. Unfortuneately, I've gotten no where. I'm not sure I
really understand the problem to start with. If anyone wants to
work on this I'm willing to help if I can.

I think if this could be solved, it would be more likely that
someone could solve the lack of network support also.

Wishful thinking probably.

Regards,
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:43:08 -0400
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Werner... Yes, your reports are correct. I use APRS DOS version  on a
standard non-upgraded 2Mb 200LX. I use the PMCIA slot for a second serial
port (one serial port to the GPS, the other port to the TNC) so I manage to
cram the APRS software plus a map or two in the LX's memory.  Works fine
except for the extremely slow reloading or zooming of the maps. The plots
and tracking are quick. The low resolution APRS DOS maps and icons are
surprisingly legible. I power the LX with a cigarette lighter cable in the
car because otherwise the battery life is short. This 12V power plug also
powers the Radio. A nice dumb tracker package, without the LX, consists of
the HTX 202 radio, a Handipacket TNC, & Garmin GPS all fits in a cigar box
space and powered by the single 12V power cable.

For a base station, non-mobile setup, you can eliminate the GPS port and
use a memory card to hold more maps, but then what fun would it be?
  73,
Bob Kirk
N3OZB

At 02:22 PM 6/1/01 +0200, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
>hi Marcus,
>
>no I am not using the HP200 for APRS, but it was reported that AprsDos
>should run on it. I use UI_view32 on a desktop and mobile only the THD7E.
>Maybe somebody on the list has more experience with Dos Aprs than I have.
>
>
>73!
>Werner
>OE9FWV
>
>
>on 31 May 2001, at 8:21 Marc - wrote about:
>Re: APRS Re: LX GPS / MapBlast / Kopplin's CGI:
>
> > Werner,
> >
> > > I tried this with my APRS program, but the maps you get from mapblast
> have
> > > not the right projection for this, and the larger the map the larger the
> > > mistake. I think the same will be true for LX-GPS.
> >
> > Are you running APRS on your 200lx?  If so, I'd be interested in your
> > setup?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Marcus
> > zaaap@ix.netcom.com

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Date:         Sat, 2 Jun 2001 06:19:01 +0200
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Russel explained:
 >If you want to copy all the subdirectory files since the last
 >backup you could first turn OFF the bits in the target directory
 >so those files won't be copied and the "/s" and "/m" will pick up
 >the new files (assuming their archive bit is ON).

sorry if i'm a bit slow here; the target directory's files are in A:\backup?

   attrib -A c:\*.*
   xcopy  c:\*.*  a:\backup\  /s/m

my directory in C:\ is called "programs" and the subdirectories are called
"Emergenc.y" and "Pediatri.cs". Now, i don't want to copy all the program
files each day because they take 6 seconds, and i don't want to copy the
older files in the 2 subdirectories either.

 >If you want to get all subdir files without the root then do this:
   attrib +A c:\*.* /s
   attrib -A c:\*.*
   xcopy  c:\*.*  a:\backup\  /s/m
 >So by turning On or Off the "A"rchive bits you can control what groups
 >of files Xcopy will act upon when it sees its "/m" switch.

so, in my case i run a batch file like:

   attrib +A c:\programs\*.* /s
   attrib -A c:\programs\*.*
   xcopy  c:\programs\*.*  a:\backup\  /s/m

what happens to files in the 2 directories in "programs"?

slow Nathalie

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Date:         Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:33:23 -0600
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Hello all; Sorry if this turns out to be a waste of bandwidth:

Several months ago, I sent a $25 check to Mike McManus in Canada
in payment for an HP AC Adapter. The check has since cleared my
bank and I haven't heard from Mike regarding the goods, and the
e-mail address that I have for him no longer works. I was
wondering if Mike was still on the list or if anyone knew how I
could get in contact with him.  Thanks.

Richard Smith

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hi Russell,

On 1 Jun 2001, at 10:29, Russell Hemery wrote:

> I dont know about Minix but I had a problem with transfile and a 2 Meg
> text file.  It would halt with no connection at varying places in the
> file but statistically at the same place more than others. Speed made
> no difference >from 57K down to 1200.
>
the known transfile bug stop _always_ at the very same bit of the
file transfer. What you described is probably something different -
your solution suggests that the file was written to a part of corrupt
diskspace and this caused the problem. But could be a helpful hint if
the circumstances are like you discribed.

cheers,
Werner


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<html><head></head><body>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:200106020402.f5242Ui11280@lamx01.mgw.rr.com"></blockquote>
After using a HP 95, 100, 200 for almost 10 years I finally got badly burned
because my backup practice wasn't up to par (let that read "hit or miss"
to non existent).&nbsp; So, better late than never,&nbsp; I'm trying to set up a daily
backup that will rotate through 7 backup files, 1 for each day.&nbsp; My plan
is to first execute a macro to close all programs, then a BAT file to copy
my 3 critical files, Calendar and 2 phone books, to a backup directory on
my A: drive.<br>
  <br>
Several question --<br>
 &nbsp;&nbsp; 1.&nbsp; The || will run the macro to close all applications, but do I need to put a inverted ! or ? in some field?<br>
 &nbsp;&nbsp; 2.&nbsp; The | will run the BAT file, but what will exit it and close DOS?<br>
 &nbsp;&nbsp; 3.&nbsp; Has anyone set up something like this, and if so can you describe what you did?<br>
  <br>
Aloha - bob &nbsp; &nbsp; \ooo_<br>
  <br>
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<FontFamily><param>Times New Roman</param><bigger><<<<

'm trying to set up a daily backup that will rotate through 7 backup
files, 1 for each day.  My plan is to first execute a macro to close
all programs, then a BAT file to copy my 3 critical files, Calendar
and 2 phone books, to a backup directory on my A: drive.
>>


Hi Bob,  sorry to hear about your backup (or lack of it) problems.


<<<<

    1.  The || will run the macro to close all applications, but do I
need to put a inverted ! or ? in some field?
    2.  The | will run the BAT file, but what will exit it and close
DOS?

>>


Put a "Q" (for quiet) in the Location field to handle problem #2.
Also remember to set Alarm.Enabled and Alarm.Leadtime=0.  I
think the inverted ? is only needed in the AppMgr.Comments field
to suppress the "exiting from DOS" message, so you only need to
do this if your macro invokes an AppMgr icon that runs a batch
file (I do this).


<<<<
    3.  Has anyone set up something like this, and if so can you
describe what you did?
>>


I run a daily automated backup at 1am, but it always goes to the
same backup area I recognized that as a risk, but worried that
added complexity (ie multiple backups) had risks as well.


My daily Appt entry is a || macro that closes all apps, then runs a
batchfile (from AppMgr) which pkzips selected directories on my
C drive (internal) and A (flashcard) to a backup area on the
flashcard.  Every week or two, I manually backup the flashcard
on my notebook computer (for long term backup).


I can give you the dreary details if you're interested.  Just email
me so I can spare the list the umpteenth iteration of How
Longden Does Daily Backups <<g>.


I seem to remember other members having daily backup
strategies, some keyed to the day of the week as you're wanting
to do, and some doing incrementals only.  I don't have their
names, but maybe they're still on-board.


- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 3 Jun 2001 03:13:00 +1000
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Hi all

Thought someone may be interested in this as a backup unit. 19 hours to go
as of this post.

Item #1242496102

I dont know the seller, was just browsing.

Russell

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Date:         Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:44:45 +0000
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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
> sorry if i'm a bit slow here; the target directory's files are in A:\backup?

Nathalie, ignore my previous post.  I was trying to give you
general purpose examples of how you can copy groups of files by
manipulating their "A"rchive attribute bit and using XCOPY with
the "/m" switch.

You want a specific solution so I'll try to give you one but
first I need to understand your C: drive directory structure
that you are copying FROM and where you want the copies to go on
your A: drive backup flash card.

> my directory in C:\ is called "programs" and the subdirectories are called
> "Emergenc.y" and "Pediatri.cs". Now, i don't want to copy all the program
> files each day because they take 6 seconds, and i don't want to copy the
> older files in the 2 subdirectories either.

The directories you want to copy from look like this?

  c:\programs\
  c:\programs\emergenc.y\
  c:\programs\pediatri.cs\

You don't describe exactly where in A: to want to copy TO so
I'll assume the same directory structure but on A:.

Since you've only mentioned 3 directories a separate copy
command for each is easier than trying to copy a part of the
tree.  Make a BAT file like this:

xcopy c:\programs\*.*             a:\programs\             /m/e
xcopy c:\programs\emergenc.y\*.*  a:\programs\emergenc.y\  /m/e
xcopy c:\programs\pediatri.cs\*.* a:\programs\pediatri.cs\ /m/e

The "/m" switch will only copy new files that still have their
archive bit on (and then turns it off).  The "/e" will create an
empty directory if necessaary.

If the archive bits are still on all files then the first time
you copy you'll copy all files.  Future copies will only copy
those new or modified files that have had the archive bits
turned back on.

Try it; run it twice in a row and the 2nd time it shouldn't copy
anything.

Does this make sense?  Did I understand what you want?

Cheers... Russ

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Hi Oliver

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:26:36 +0800, Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET> wrote:

> 5181-6639 = ??? (the only 9 pin male to 9 pin male adapter)

Yes - that should be the null modem adapter and the one which SHOULD
work. If it does not - try to connect it the other way around. If it
doesn't work yet - some software have trouble when the DCD line is not
connected. Maybe the 6210 data cable doesn't have this and so your
software doesn't recognizw that there is anything to talk to.

I don't know about  PDU in such a case. Maybe Stefan can comment here.

But if you have some soldering skills and know how to use a volt meter,
look into the HP manual to see which line the DCD line is (I don't know
now - sitting in a train from Dresden nack home to Berlin). Or look
onto my home page daniel-hertrich.de/ser_info should show the needed
info.
And connect that DCD line to another line which permanently leads a
signal during a connection.

BTW: Did you enable the serial port before your tests? I strongly
recommend to get Stefan Peichl's "SETCOM1" utility
(http://peichl.hplx.net/setcon1.zip) to set the port parameters. It's
the most comfortable way, since you can use it also in batch files.
If you prefer a TSR which can be activated via a hot key, use Stefan's
LXPRO (http://peichl.hplx.net/lxpro.zip).

GTX
daniel


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Aloha Bob!

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:37:53 -1000, Bob Graham <bgraham@HAWAII.RR.COM> wrote:

> <html><head></head><body>

hmm - no ASCII copy of your mail? OK, I'll try anyway.

> 1.&nbsp; The || will run the macro to close all applications, but do I need to put a inverted ! or ? in some field?<br>

In the location field I only have a "Q" (without the quotes). It
suppresses outputs, I think. (But I don't really know what it does -
too long ago I've set it up ;-))
No upside-down ! or ? needed.

>  2.&nbsp; The | will run the BAT file, but what will exit it and close DOS?<br>

It will close when it is finished and return to the SysMgr. Again, no
special entries needed, except the Q.


>  3.&nbsp; Has anyone set up something like this, and if so can you describe what you did?<br>

Yes, i have such a setup.
Mine does 2 cyclic backups (a.zip and b.zip, one of them every second
day).

I have one daily appointment which closes all apps in SysMgr.

Here is the smart clipped output (German. But if you also do a smart
clip of one of your appointments you will know what the fields mean)
System macro 1 closes all applications.

Beschreib.: ||1
Beginndatum: 2.06.2001
Beginnzeit: 2:00
Endzeit   : 2:15
Ort      : Q
X Meldung
Vorlauf: 0
# aufein'folg. Tage: 1
Wiederholung:  Tdglich    (=daily)
  Zeigt Wochenplan
  Zeigt Monatsplan


And I have an appointment every day which looks like this:

Beschreib.: |c:\batch\backup.bat a |
Beginndatum: 2.06.2001
Beginnzeit: 2:01
Endzeit   : 2:15
Ort      : Q
X Meldung
Vorlauf: 0
# aufein'folg. Tage: 1
Wiederholung:  Tdglich   (= daily - but only every second day!)
  Zeigt Wochenplan
  Zeigt Monatsplan


ALternating - one day I have the "a" as paramter for the backup.bat and
one day I have a "b". If you want to do 7 backups you had to use the
parameters a, b, c, d, e, f, g and enter a repitition "weekly" for
each of the seven.

My backup.bat looks like this (backups the whole C drive into a zip
file on A)

@echo off
a:

REM first, we chack the battery state of the palmtop
a:\bin\voltchck.exe 2.40
if errorlevel 1 goto power

REM now we delete the old backup file
del a:\backup_c\%1.zip

REM now we create the new backup zip file
a:\bin_c\pkzip -rp -es -whs -Jhrs -xc:\bin\*.* a:\backup_c\%1.zip c:\*.*
REM pkzip returns errorlevel 14 if there is not enough space to create
REM zip file
if errorlevel 14 goto space
goto end

:power
echo.
echo Too less battery power! Omitting backup routine.
echo.
echo too less battery power! > a:\backup_c\%1_bat.txt
goto end

:space
echo.
echo Too less space on A for the backup!!
echo.
echo too less space on A: for backup! > a:\backup_c\%1_space.txt

:end


I hope this helps! This backup strategy is good enough for me and saved
me lots of work already!
And in addition, you can manually call for example
BACKUP CURRENT

This will create a backup file "current.zip" with the current state of
the whole machine, useful if you want to power it totally down for any
upgrades or repairs. You don't have to rely on the nightly backup state
then.

GTX
daniel

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Hi,

Could someone verify if the HP null modem adapter is the one with part
number HP5181-6642 and its physical appearance is 9 pins on one side and 25
pins on the other?  TIA

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Hallo list,

I'm still struggling and trying around to convert the .csv files
into .gdb files without any success so far. Does anyone habe an
idea to doit corretcly? Thanks for help

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   Oliver Chua wrote:
> Has anyone been able to successfully get PDU on the 200lx to work via =
cable
> with the Nokia 6220?
>
> So which one among the HP adapters I mentioned above is the null modem
> adapter?  Is it the 5181-6639?

The null modem is the small black one with 9 pins female plugs on both =
ends.

 \/
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Daniel Hertrich writes:

> If you prefer a TSR which can be activated via a hot key, use Stefan's
> LXPRO (http://peichl.hplx.net/lxpro.zip).

Or you can use Stefan's LIGHTON utility--only 777 bytes!  :)

Ted

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Speaking of ebay. There is a Data Traveler modem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1242079569>
for sale. Has anyone used it with the 200lx?
patrick

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Date:         Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:14:57 -0700
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Does anyone have the pcmcia dictionary they might be
willing to sell or trade?
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:18:11 +0800
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Please disregard everyone.  Daniel answered the question.

Daniel ... will reply to you separately.  Got more questions on that last
email.

Thanks.

>Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 09:24:58 +0800
>To: hplx
>From: Oliver Chua <bud@mindgate.net>
>Subject: null modem adapter
>
>
>Hi,
>
>Could someone verify if the HP null modem adapter is the one with part
number HP5181-6642 and its physical appearance is 9 pins on one side and 25
pins on the other?  TIA
>
>Oliver

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> So, better late than never; I'm trying to set up a daily
> backup that will rotate through 7 backup files, 1 for each day.  My =
plan
> is to first execute a macro to close all programs, then a BAT file to =
copy
> my 3 critical files, Calendar and 2 phone books, to a backup directory =
on
> my A: drive.

I have a backup macro and batch file.  The macro is activated by an
appointment.  The appointment looks like:

Description: ||9
Start Date : 6/03/2001
Start Time : 11:00pm
End Time   : 11:59pm
Location   : Q
X Alarm
Leadtime: 0
#Consecutive Days: 1
Repeat Status:  None
X Shows in Week View
X Shows in Month View
Note:

It activates the macro assigned to Fn-F9.  The macro looks like this:

{Appt}{F9}{F5}{F4}{Right}{Right}{F4}||9{F3}{Enter}{Alt+D}{Date}+{F10}{Menu=
}q{More}{Menu}AL{More}n

It does the following:
1) open Appt and search for the entry that activated it.
2) move that entry to the next day so this process happens each night but =
only
has one entry in my Appt file.
3) open &...More and close all open applications
4) reopen &...More and run the program activated by the "N" hot key

My backup batch file looks like:

cls
xcopy c:\ACCIS4 a:\c\ACCIS4\ /m /s
xcopy c:\DOS a:\c\DOS\ /m /s
xcopy c:\DP23 a:\c\DP23\ /m /s
xcopy c:\GAMES a:\c\GAMES\ /m /s
xcopy c:\PIM a:\c\PIM\ /m /s
xcopy c:\QUICKEN a:\c\QUICKEN\ /m /s
xcopy c:\UTIL a:\c\UTIL\ /m /s
xcopy c:\_DAT a:\c\_DAT\ /m /s
xcopy c:\WWW a:\c\WWW\ /m /s
xcopy c:\ a:\c\ /m

This performs a backup of the specified subdirectories on my larger C: =
drive,
plus the files in the root of C:.  I have several subdirectories on my C: =
drive
that don't change, so I don't back them up very often.  If I wanted to do =
the
whole drive, I could just use

xcopy c:\ a:\c\ /m /s

 Steve Carder <steve@carderfamily.net>
 PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu

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Date:         Mon, 4 Jun 2001 01:38:51 +0000
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Francois,

One modem card that works great (approx 137ma) is the Apex
Data V.34 model No. 011-20641.  I got lucky and found an
extra one on Ebay for $11.  The description wasn't very good
so no one knew what is was.    =Bob=

> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone keep an up-to-date list of PCCards that are known to work in the
> palmtop? The information I found on HPLX net are a bit outdated.
>
> It would be interesting to keep a listing of the 33.6/56K modems brands
> that are known to work properly in the palmtop (i.e. not to much power
> consumption).
>
> We could do the same for the large flash cards (PCMCIA or Compact flash with
> adapter) over 220MB, that work in the palmtop with proper driver (I khow
> Sandisk cards are working, but what about e.g. Synchrotech?).
>
> Also. more seldomly used cards (Ethernet, multifunctions...)
> might be of interest.
>
> If this kind information is not yet available on the net, I can try to put
> it together from individual replies to this message, and upload it on the
> HPLX ring.
>
> One side question. Does anyone have experience in making the palmtop
> communicate with a Casio QV 3000 digital Camera (by serial or IR port)?
> Serial seems easier (no IRDA pb.), but I guess some piece of software is
> needed on the palmtop side to handle the digital camera download protocol.
> I know there is something for Kodak Camera and if anyone knows exactly what
> it does (or better, if source code is available), that would be a good
> starting point for me to put something together.
>
> Thanks in advance for sharing your experience. You might reply to me
> individually, and I will keep the list informed.
>
> Regards,
>
> Francois Ennesser
> Paris, France
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Hi all,

I've been doing "dumb" backups for some time now: Basically "Copy *.* to a:"
then I dump that file into a directory every now and then on my main
computers second HDD.

It's occurred to me that this does a poor job of protecting the data (I mean
most of the HP files protected with the built-in passwords can be cracked
pretty quickly).

What I want to do is encrypt many directories (HP backups and other stuff),
prob. w/ PGP, and "move" them to CDs (burn the encrypted files onto CDs).

I have a naive question. Will I be able to access those files again?

I bought PGP a long time ago, but am a bit intimidated by this whole "key"
thing. How do I access the files on the CDs, how do I best protect these
keys AND still have them handy if I have a HDD crash?

Finally, I've reinstalled and recreated public and private keys (w/ PGP ver.
6.5.3), can these be  exported and used on my palmtop w/ some sort of
(older?) DOS ver. of the same program?

TIA,

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> I'm still struggling and trying around to convert the .csv files
> into .gdb files without any success so far. Does anyone habe an
> idea to doit corretcly? Thanks for help

Here's some ideas that might help:

I suggest adding some data to a new small phone or
database application, and then use one of those programs to export
(dump) the data to an Ascii file.  This will provide a useful format or
template to model your data after.  Massage your data in a word
processor or editor to match the format of that ascii file and then
import your data.

A word of caution, it does not take more than a little error in the
file to cause problems - misplaced comma, quote, single quote and all
can be hard to see.

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On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:16:14 -0500 Tim wrote:
>What I want to do is encrypt many directories (HP backups and other stuff),
>prob. w/ PGP, and "move" them to CDs (burn the encrypted files onto CDs).

There is a utility available on SUPER called SucureDevice, or SecDev.
It creates a disk file, and the secdev driver sees this disk file as a
whole nother disk drive. That disk drive is password-protected with
the IDEA algorithm, which is far more secure than the built-in LX
encryption, and although it's probably not as secure as PGP, it's
plenty enough for my purposes. I highly recommend this utility.

So I have my private databases (the .adb one and two .pdb ones) as
files in this secdev virtual disk. I just back up the disk file as a
unit.

So my backup procedure is this:

* Three times a week, a macro executes.
* This macro first closes all open apps (MORE,Alt-F,T,Enter), then
runs a DOS batch file, which has an icon set up in AppMgr.
* This batch file does DBCHECK on the databases on the F: drive (the
virtual one), and if they check out OK, deletes one of the other ten
backups from my flash card, and copies the new one to it.
* I have a program called Decimate which chooses which of the ten
existing backups to delete, so that my list of ten has the new ones
spaced close together, but the oldest is several months old.
* The batch file then logs out of the secdev drive, so that it can't
be accessed until I log in again.

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--- Tim <palmtop@N-LINK.COM> wrote:
> I ...am a bit intimidated by this whole "key"
> thing...(older?) DOS ver. of the same program?
Tim,

I highly recommend these two books about the "Old
PGP".
They will help you to understand and use PGP in a
manner that will protect your files.
===========
Protect Your Privacy: The PGP User's Guide
William Stallings
Format: Paperback, 302pp.
ISBN: 0131855964
Publisher: Prentice Hall PTR
Pub. Date: December  1994
========
PGP: Pretty Good Privacy
Simson Garfinkel
Format: Paperback, 1st ed., 393pp.
ISBN: 1565920988
Publisher: O'Reilly & Associates, Incorporated
Pub. Date: August  1996
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:30:32 +0200
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Hello,

> Take a look at my trainsch program on super the source code shows some
> simple codes for changing the zoom levels. I'm sure a simple C program could
> be written in Minix that would do it.

Thanks, I'll try it.

> Has anyone gotten Minix to transfer data to/from the DOS drives?

There are commands dosdir dosread and doswrite when running
Minix. But I do think these only work in native mode, when Minix
runs from its own Unix-style partition, not from inside a virtual
partition within the FAT filesystem. I used them on my desktop
oldtimer PC/XT, where I had dedicated DOS and Minix 1.7.1
partitions, some commands like:

dosdir hd2c misc/temp/
dosread hd1a utils/gif2ansi.c > /usr/etomcat/fun/viewer.c
postmort > doswrite hd1b temp/logs/crashnew.txt

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hallo Michael,

On 3 Jun 2001, at 11:41, Michael Berrier wrote:

> Hallo list,
>
> I'm still struggling and trying around to convert the .csv files
> into .gdb files without any success so far. Does anyone habe an
> idea to doit corretcly? Thanks for help
>
I do it with cpack - how did you try?
you need a gdb and then you can map the csv to the gdb -> finished.
What are your problems in detail?

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hi Tim,

On 3 Jun 2001, at 22:16, Tim wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've been doing "dumb" backups for some time now: Basically "Copy *.*
> to a:" then I dump that file into a directory every now and then on my
> main computers second HDD.
> It's occurred to me that this does a poor job of protecting the data
> (I mean most of the HP files protected with the built-in passwords can
> be cracked pretty quickly).
>
> What I want to do is encrypt many directories (HP backups and other
> stuff), prob. w/ PGP, and "move" them to CDs (burn the encrypted files
> onto CDs).
>
> I have a naive question. Will I be able to access those files again?

yes. If your have a running version of PGP and your keyrrings
available ;-)

>
> I bought PGP a long time ago, but am a bit intimidated by this whole
> "key" thing. How do I access the files on the CDs, how do I best
> protect these keys AND still have them handy if I have a HDD crash?

you can encrypt the files to your own public key, and then store the
result on a CD.

You should have copies of your secring.pgp (preferably more than one)
on diskette / CD. The main security problem of PGP is a brute force
attack to your secring password. It is usually easier to steal a
secring from your computer and hack your passphrase than crack the
encrypted file AFAIK. So you should not store the secring on a PC
that is accessible from other people or over the network or the
Internet.
(sounds a little paranoid, I do not have so private data on my Pc
that I care too much)

>
> Finally, I've reinstalled and recreated public and private keys (w/
> PGP ver. 6.5.3), can these be  exported and used on my palmtop w/ some
> sort of (older?) DOS ver. of the same program?
>
Yes, partly.
I use the DOS version of PGP on my Palmtop, with this version it is
possible to use up to 2048 Bit RSA keys.
The new type of key (DH/DSS) is not compatible with the Dos Version.
But the decryption process with so large keys is _very_ slowly on the
HP. With a small testfile encrypted to my 2048 RSA key it lasts more
than two minutes on my DS HP200 to see the decrypted file.

The problem with storage of data is many-sided. You need a backup
medium which is save, but you also need the machine to read it
afterwards and the software to decrypt it.
CD's will be more secure than floppies IMHO. And do not forget to
keep your passphrase in mind. Without your passphrase you will need
good hacking capabilties to ever read again your stored files...

You can easy run a test on some files you create and verify if your
backup and encryption procedure is working. That is essential with
every backup you do, otherwise you feel secure and after a crash you
could find out that you stored rubish ;-)

have fun,

Werner






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We have a 200LX/2Meg in very good condition for sale - $200.

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hi Steve,

On 3 Jun 2001, at 20:28, Steve Carder wrote:
>
> I have a backup macro and batch file.  The macro is activated by an
> appointment.  The appointment looks like:
>
description deleted..
>
> It activates the macro assigned to Fn-F9.  The macro looks like this:
>
> {Appt}{F9}{F5}{F4}{Right}{Right}{F4}||9{F3}{Enter}{Alt+D}{Date}+{F10}{
> Menu}q{More}{Menu}AL{More}n

I followed you until the {Date} command.
I have a german Palmtopt, could you explain, what Date mens in my
palmtop? I modified it a little and it works fine for me, so just
curiosity, what your design means.

The makro is a very good idea, I had a repeated task before and this
was not very beautiful in the overview and on the printed plans, so
your way is great! And I have no more to delete the old backup
entries.
Thank you for sharing it with us.

best regards,
Werner


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Russell suggested:
 >The "/m" switch will only copy new files that still have their
 >archive bit on (and then turns it off).  The "/e" will create
 >an empty directory if necessaary.
Mr. X responded:
 >use the /d flag on xcopy and leave off the /m  The /d flag
 >says update any file with a newer date also you can do
 >/d:somedate which means copy files newer than a specific date...
 >if you do xcopy /? it will tell you what all the options are. the
 >/s flag copies all files and subdirectories in and below
 >the source directory.

me asks:
has anyone tried the /d flag the LX, which is DOS 5?

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Hi Ted,

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:49:06 -0500, Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> Daniel Hertrich writes:
>
> > If you prefer a TSR which can be activated via a hot key, use Stefan's
> > LXPRO (http://peichl.hplx.net/lxpro.zip).
>
> Or you can use Stefan's LIGHTON utility--only 777 bytes!  :)

Caution! Lighton switches only the Tx pin on and off! Actually it is only
for permament powering of my LED light
(http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight).
It is not suitable to set the COM port specs for any communication
purposes!

(Ted, didn't you buy one of my lights a while back? Does it still work
for you as desired?)

GTX
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I have a '95 Popular on a Dodge.  The same thing happened to us when we
first bought the RT.  I immediately installed a disconnect switch on the
battery.  The last thing I do when leaving the RT in storage is open the
switch.  I was gone for over a year one time, and the RT started
immediately.

Aloha - bob     \ooo_
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 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Will Rodemann <rodemann@lincoln.midcoast.com>
 > To: roadtrek <roadtrek@travel-finder.com>
 > Date: Sunday, June 03, 2001 7:58 PM
 > Subject: Fw: RT Interior Cab Light
 >
 >
 > Harish -
 >
 > You are describing something that is standard in Dodge vans.  When we
bought
 > our pre-owned '92 190P Dodge RT I noticed just part of what you are
 > describing.  But the whole thing should be covered in your Manual.
 >
 > Incidentally, if you leave the headlight switch "in the middle" or "to
 > left - counterclockwise, i.e ON", even though the cab lights are not on,
 > that is, you have them turned switches off up above at the lights,
there is
 > still a very small current draw from your engine battery.  That headlight
 > switch needs to be all the way off to the right -clockwise through the
 > detent - in order to have zero current draw.   I found this out the
hard way
 > when, leaving it "on" but no lights on for an extended period at
home, three
 > weeks later the engine would not start - had to recharge the engine
battery.
 >
 > Will Rodemann

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Speaking of backups ...

I have an idea for a backup scheme. Everyday a directory is
created in my flash card (a:) which corresponds to the date,
and my data files are backed up to it. Eg, the directory for
today will be "a:\20010605", and my backup batch file will be
called by "backup a:\20010605".

I can create this directory by hand, but I should like to do it
automatically. How do I convert the present date to the name of
a directory?

Any idea appreciated.

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Anyone have, or know of, any 802.11 wireless LAN cards that work in the
HP200LX?


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I haven't been following this thread but was wondering if you guys knew about xxcopy?
It is a vastly superior replacement to the xcopy command and there's a 16bit version
that works very nicely on the lx. It can be had here --> http://www.datman.com/

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Russell suggested:
 >The "/m" switch will only copy new files that still have their
 >archive bit on (and then turns it off).  The "/e" will create
 >an empty directory if necessaary.
Mr. X responded:
 >use the /d flag on xcopy and leave off the /m  The /d flag
 >says update any file with a newer date also you can do
 >/d:somedate which means copy files newer than a specific date...
 >if you do xcopy /? it will tell you what all the options are. the
 >/s flag copies all files and subdirectories in and below
 >the source directory.

me asks:
has anyone tried the /d flag the LX, which is DOS 5?

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Tamas Feher wrote:
> There are commands dosdir dosread and doswrite when running
> Minix. But I do think these only work in native mode, when
Minix
> runs from its own Unix-style partition, not from inside a
virtual
> partition within the FAT filesystem.

I'm using Minix in a dos window since my single speed 200lx is
really too slow.  I wanted to get some C source in it to play
with and make sure I knew how to use the compiler and I just
copied it from notepad and pasted it into vi in isert mode using
Windows copy and paste.  It worked just fine.

These were a few small files.  If they were longer it might be
necessary to use properties to slow down the past.  But I
haven't tried long files yet.

Binary files could be uuencoded and copied in in the same way.
It's not pretty but it'll work till something better works.

By the way, this thing works beautifully within a Dos box in
Windows.

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Daniel Hertrich writes:

> Caution! Lighton switches only the Tx pin on and off! Actually it is only
> for permament powering of my LED light
> (http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight).
> It is not suitable to set the COM port specs for any communication
> purposes!

Perhaps not, but I use it regularly to turn on power to COM1 before
going online with my Motorola ST7868W mobile phone.  Maybe I'm just
lucky?


> (Ted, didn't you buy one of my lights a while back? Does it still work
> for you as desired?)

Yes I did buy one of the lights you made, good memory.  It works well.
I don't use it often, but it's always in my briefcase and available
when needed.

Ted

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Michael Berrier writes:
> I'm still struggling and trying around to convert the .csv files
> into .gdb files without any success so far. Does anyone habe an
> idea to doit corretcly? Thanks for help

I havent seen anyone mention this in the thread, but IIRC, after you have
done everything correctly, you get a gdb file which opens with errors. You
then have to sort the database to rebuild all the internal pointers. Only then
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That's a good idea. The windows clipboard can hold a good bit of text. I think that pasting into vi would't be a problem even with
large files. I do that with terminal programs on other unixes and it works okay for any size file. Now all we gotta do is find a way
to do it in the LX with dos.



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Tamas Feher wrote:
> There are commands dosdir dosread and doswrite when running
> Minix. But I do think these only work in native mode, when
Minix
> runs from its own Unix-style partition, not from inside a
virtual
> partition within the FAT filesystem.

I'm using Minix in a dos window since my single speed 200lx is
really too slow.  I wanted to get some C source in it to play
with and make sure I knew how to use the compiler and I just
copied it from notepad and pasted it into vi in isert mode using
Windows copy and paste.  It worked just fine.

These were a few small files.  If they were longer it might be
necessary to use properties to slow down the past.  But I
haven't tried long files yet.

Binary files could be uuencoded and copied in in the same way.
It's not pretty but it'll work till something better works.

By the way, this thing works beautifully within a Dos box in
Windows.

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> I followed you until the {Date} command.

This inserts the current date from the palmtop's clock.  On my US English
plamtop, this is done by holding down the Fn key while typing a comma.  =
The
comma key has the word "DATE" printed under it.

The purpose of this is to always move the appointment to tomorrow.  =
Inserting
the current date, then pressing the plus key "+" gives tomorrow's date.
Sometimes, if I unload System manager, the macro doesn't run as planned. =
 When
I notice this, I can activate it manually by pressing Fn-F9.  In this =
case, the
appointment could be up to several days behind, so I always paste in
today's date and add one day to get the proper day.

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On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:04:14 +0200, Nigel Rotherham <nigel@KEEPSMILING.CO.ZA> wrote:
>
> I have been using my HP95LX for more than 6 years and regard it as a
> mainstay of my computing needs (I am a self employed).

snip

> I have resisted
> changing to the 100/200 so far as with my eyesight (I'm in the THAT age
> group!) the higher resolution and graphics display of the 100/200 is of no
> real benefit i.e. 40 column text mode is just fine.

snip

>. So, what arguments can be
> offered for moving to the 100/200 OR for staying with the 95?
>
> Looking forward to some informative answers!

I resisted moving from my 95LX to the 100LX for the same reason
you do - the fonts are smaller and harder to read. Even though
you can change Memo, DOS and some other applications to
40-column mode, the built-in apps such as APPT and PHONE run
only in 64-column mode. And, the 40-column mode on the
100/200LX is not as readable as the 40-column mode on the 95LX.

However, I did switch and would not go back. As others have
said, the built-in applications on the 100/200LX are so much
better than those on the 95LX that it makes up for the harder
to read screen, as least for me. However, this is a trade off
you will have to make for yourself.

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On Fri, 4 May 2001 15:52:26 -0400, "Mike Schneider" <mikeschn@ameritech.net> wrote:

>
> What if you could have your text based system, and a color screen too,
> complete with backlight?

I like my 200LX just as it is. I don't need color, but a
backlight would be nice at times.

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On Mon, 14 May 2001 20:13:06 -0700, Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM> wrote:

>
> The appointment book is buggy.  The other database software is buggy; that's
> why there's "dbcheck".  I use only stock hp software and the "zip" program
> to automatically back up my data, so I find it difficult to believe that
> I have some "configuration" problem.

This is very strange. I have never had any problems with APPT
or any of the other database applications.

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From:         Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM>
Subject:      Re: What to do with a big flashcard?
Comments: To: Victor Roberts <victor_roberts@compuserve.com>
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I don't think there would be much disagreement that the appt book and the
other db s/w is buggy; so is Quicken, for that matter.

If you haven't seen these bugs, then perhaps you believe that -you- did
something wrong, and therefore, you assume that the machine is "ok" and you
are "incorrect", or maybe you just don't push the apps like I do.

But, at this point, since HP won't fix the bugs, we're stuck with figuring
out work-arounds.  That's another reason why this group is so helpful.

-Mike

On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Victor Roberts wrote:

> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 20:56:22 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: What to do with a big flashcard?


> This is very strange. I have never had any problems with APPT
> or any of the other database applications.
>
> Vic Roberts

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:39:56 +0800
Reply-To:     LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>
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I am having problem setting up SECDEV and wonder if anyone can
help.

I have a 32MB DS unit, so CONFIG.SYS contains the command to
swap the C: and F: drives. From filer, I see that I have drives
A: to H: (although I have no idea how G: and H: get there).

I want to encrypt the file GDSTUF.TXT, which contains my
collection of passwords etc. So I copied it to the root
directory of C: and used the command in SECDEV to encrypt it:

 MKVOLUME C:\GDSTUF.TXT

SECDEV asked for the passphrase twice. I checked the file with
PE afterwards and it is a bunch of nonsense characters. So I
guess it worked.

I then put the statement:

  DEVICE =3DC:\TOOLS\SECDEV\SECDEV.SYS C:\GDSTUF.TXT

in my CONFIG.SYS after the line:

 DEVICE=3DC:\RD\RDSWAP.EXE

and rebooted.

I used

 LOGIN C:

to log in, but SECDEV said that "drive C: is not encrypted".

I then tried just

 LOGIN

and SECDEV asked for my passphrase to drive _H:_.

Obviously I could not read the encrypted file in the root of C:
drive. So I copied the unencrypted GDSTUF.TXT to H:\ and used
MKVOLUME to encrypt it. I rebooted and used

 LOGIN H:

I was asked for the passphrase, which I gave and I guessed I
was logged in.

But I tried to open H:\GDSTUF.TXT with PE and I still get
nonsense characters.

Is it possible that the drive swapping in CONFIG.SYS has
confused SECDEV? I have tried putting

  DEVICE=3DF:\TOOLS\SECDEV\SECDEV.SYS F:\GDSTUF.TXT

before the drives were swapped (at that time all the files
referenced were in F:), but the effect was the same.

What have I missed? Any suggestion welcome.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:44:17 +0200
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Hi friends,

does anyone use a GDB launcher in filer.ini?

I wanted to be able to start a GDB in the database application by
simply clicking on it in filer and added the line

GDB=c:\bin\dbl1.com %

to my filer.ini Launcher section.

But everytime I click on a GDB, I get the memory full error and I can
choose which program I want to close (only dbl1.com if I have nothing
else opened).

I don't use the Syystem Manager very much ,so this may be a dumb
question but I simply have no clue... ;-)

TNX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:01:46 +0200
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On Monday, 04.06.2001 at 09:47 GMT, David Becher  wrote:
> I havent seen anyone mention this in the thread, but IIRC,
> after you have
> done everything correctly, you get a gdb file which opens
> with errors. You
> then have to sort the database to rebuild all the internal
> pointers. Only then
> will you be able tosee the database properly.
>
I don't think this is the case if you're using the HP Connectivity
Pack to create a GDB from a comma-delimited file. The only
problem there is that you need an existing GDB file as output
file, it won't create one for you.

What I usually do is to first create a database in the desired
format on the HP 200 LX or on the PC with CPACK that
contains one sample entry. Then I convert this file to
comma-delimited which gives me the sequence of fields in
the CDF (or CSV) file. Next, I write a program (usually in
REXX) that reads the raw input data (most often an HTML
file) and creates the CDF file.

The next step is the XLATE/MERGE program in the Cpack,
with the CDF file as input and the GDB file from step one as
output. The last step is to open the database with CPACK or on
the HP 200 LX and to delete the sample entry.

Nowadays, I've moved almost all of my databases to my Palm
Pilot Vx. I've bought a shareware tool named HandBase for the
Palm which comes with a PC component that can also create
databases from CSV files.

Ulrich Boche
IT Security Technical Consultant
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:07:38 +0200
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On Wednesday, 06.06.2001 at 07:44 GMT, Daniel Hertrich  wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> does anyone use a GDB launcher in filer.ini?
>
> I wanted to be able to start a GDB in the database
> application by
> simply clicking on it in filer and added the line
>
> GDB=c:\bin\dbl1.com %
>
> to my filer.ini Launcher section.
>
> But everytime I click on a GDB, I get the memory full error
> and I can
> choose which program I want to close (only dbl1.com if I have
> nothing
> else opened).
>
> I don't use the Syystem Manager very much ,so this may be a
> dumb
> question but I simply have no clue... ;-)
>
I'm using KeyStuff2 and have the following line in FILER.INI:

GDB=C:\ks2.com @c@$@9%/

"\" is backslash and "@" is the at-sign (Klammeraffe).

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:07:16 +0200
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Daniel,

this requires keystuff to start a gdb from filer, using filer.ini!

Kind regards

Helmuth

> Hi friends,
>
> does anyone use a GDB launcher in filer.ini?
>
> I wanted to be able to start a GDB in the database application by
> simply clicking on it in filer and added the line
>
> GDB=c:\bin\dbl1.com %
>
> to my filer.ini Launcher section.
>
> But everytime I click on a GDB, I get the memory full error and I can
> choose which program I want to close (only dbl1.com if I have nothing
> else opened).
>
> I don't use the Syystem Manager very much ,so this may be a dumb
> question but I simply have no clue... ;-)
>
> TNX
> daniel
>
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> fax & voice mail: +49 721 151399479
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:37:24 -0400
Reply-To:     Harry Wellner <hwellner@PLANET.NL>
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From:         Harry Wellner <hwellner@PLANET.NL>
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Hi List,

In WWW/LX v3.1a I encoutered the following:

 - the sent date-field information is missing
   when I transmit a message.

As well as the receiver as I did not see the transmittal
date.

Any idea if I can inspect the POST.CFG anywhere
for example ?


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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:05:48 -0700
Reply-To:     Martin Crundall <ac6rm@HOTMAIL.COM>
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buddy also does this nicely.


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Reply-To: h_e_guenther@attglobal.net
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: GDB launch from filer
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:07:16 +0200

Daniel,

this requires keystuff to start a gdb from filer, using filer.ini!

Kind regards

Helmuth

 > Hi friends,
 >
 > does anyone use a GDB launcher in filer.ini?
 >
 > I wanted to be able to start a GDB in the database application by
 > simply clicking on it in filer and added the line
 >
 > GDB=c:\bin\dbl1.com %
 >
 > to my filer.ini Launcher section.
 >
 > But everytime I click on a GDB, I get the memory full error and I can
 > choose which program I want to close (only dbl1.com if I have nothing
 > else opened).
 >
 > I don't use the Syystem Manager very much ,so this may be a dumb
 > question but I simply have no clue... ;-)
 >
 > TNX
 > daniel
 >
 > --
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 > Celia.Hertrich@gmx.de phone: +49 177 8616031
 > fax & voice mail: +49 721 151399479
 > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de
 >
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:58:42 +0200
Reply-To:     Etienne Lemaire <stelem@attglobal.net>
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My Megahertz 2144 has died.
I like the x-jack -no parts to forget- what are my choices for
similar and possibly faster types?

TIA

Etienne

Anyone has one for sale?

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:24:01 -0700
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Dear all,

I've been trying to get onto SUPER but keep getting no DNS entry replies?

I was looking for a programme to view NoteTaker files on a desktop. Does such a thing exist?

Regards

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:44:29 -0700
Reply-To:     D&A Software Support <info@DASOFT.COM>
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From:         D&A Software Support <info@DASOFT.COM>
Subject:      WWW/LX and Date Headers
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Harry,

My friends on the list forwarded to me a post from you
regarding the lack of a date header in posts.

It is probably your ISP who does not add a date header to the
emails. They are supposed to, but there is a bit of a
controversy in the interpretation of the RFC for that item.

In any case, Post/LX does not add it, relying instead on your
ISP's SMTP server to do it (we believe they should!)

But, you can put an extra line in the POST.CFG SYSTEM
section, and it will tell Post/LX to add the date header
anyway.

SYSTEM
 ....
 ....
ForceDate=3D1

BTW, I encourage you and others to look for answers in the D&A
Software Website. This particular item is in the Tips&Tricks
section, just search for ForceDate.

All the best!

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com



> Hi List,
>
> In WWW/LX v3.1a I encoutered the following:
>
>  - the sent date-field information is missing
>    when I transmit a message.
>
> As well as the receiver as I did not see the transmittal
> date.
>
> Any idea if I can inspect the POST.CFG anywhere
> for example ?
>
> Harry WELLNER, Netherlands
>
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:14:19 -0500
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david@CRIPPS.COM  asked if SUPER was down.

SUPER appears to be down again.

When it comes back online, look for the GDBWinE program. It will let you
read NoteTaker, PhoneBook and Database files on a Winxx machine.

.ed.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:39:46 +0200
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Backup
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hi,

On 5 Jun 2001, at 18:36, LEONG Ka Tai wrote:

>
> I can create this directory by hand, but I should like to do it
> automatically. How do I convert the present date to the name of
> a directory?
>
> Any idea appreciated.
>
> Leong Ka Tai

I have an idea but it is not perfect, it works on a windows box with
long filenames but not on the palmtop. The reason is the dashes in
the date output (06-06-2001) My file creates a Dos variable in the
form day=06-06-2001, and on the palmtop it creates a directory 06-06-
20, which is unfortunately not what was intended.

Maybe somebody has an idea how one could extract the dashes from my
day string...
this is my batch file:
----------------------------------------------------------
@echo off
rem assigns the current date to environment
rem variable "day"
rem ************************************
@echo set day=%%4 > current.bat
@echo. | date > temp.bat
call temp.bat
del temp.bat
del current.bat
md %day%

Werner


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Date:         Thu, 7 Jun 2001 02:06:59 +0000
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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This is putting the cart before the horse but I find REXX to be
an EXTREMELY powerful custom utility package for BAT files.  :-)
Here is my solution for creating/updating an environment
variable called DATES (named after the Rexx Date() function
whose "S"orted argument returns dates in YYYYMMDD format.)

This requires Quercus Systems' Personal Rexx for DOS.  A usable
demo is available at:  http://www.quercus-sys.com/rexxdemo.html
(Other Rexx's might also work but I have no experience there.)

In addition to REXX.EXE you also need my RXIT.REX 1 line program
copied here...

---------------------------------
/** RxIt.Rex **/ interpret arg(1)
---------------------------------

...and here is my SETDATES.BAT which actually runs it all.

------------------------------------------------------------
@echo off
rexx.exe rxit.rex call value "dates",date('S'),"ENVIRONMENT"
------------------------------------------------------------

Rexx and Rxit are useful for providing many Rexx functions for
use in BAT files.  Once you have them available they can be used
over and over for many different needs.  Enjoy!

Oh yeah, once SETDATES.BAT has run you can then do:

  MD \%dates%

...to create a subdir named in yyyymmdd format.

Cheers... Russ

> On 5 Jun 2001, at 18:36, LEONG Ka Tai wrote:
> > I can create this directory by hand, but I should like to do it
> > automatically. How do I convert the present date to the name of
> > a directory?
> > Any idea appreciated.

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:51:54 +0100
Reply-To:     Siegfried Witzgall <ziggysan@ONINET.PT>
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Hi Theodore and anybody else reading this,
just saw your message about going on-line with a motolola and your lx.
if that is correct, you may tell me all about this.
I own a 32mb 200lx and a motorola SJN9969A ( known as V50)and a SJN9068A

( known as V3690) and i really would like to E-mail outdoors with this
equipment.
waiting for hints and tips
hello to you all
Siegfried

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jun 2001 04:04:45 -0400
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        David Cripps ably wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I've been trying to get onto SUPER but keep getting no DNS entry =
replies?

The problem may be in the domain name server for this domain,
David Sargeant's server.

   Joe S


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Date:         Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:08:13 -0500
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Siegfried Witzgall writes:

> just saw your message about going on-line with a motolola and your lx.
> if that is correct, you may tell me all about this.
> I own a 32mb 200lx and a motorola SJN9969A ( known as V50)and a SJN9068A
> ( known as V3690) and i really would like to E-mail outdoors with this
> equipment.

Hi Siegfried,

My phone is a Motorola ST7868W.  To go online I hook the HP serial cable
to my 200LX, the Motorola data cable to the phone, and join the two 9-pin
connectors with the HP null modem adaptor.  I make sure the LX's serial
port power is on, and then connect with communications software using
COM1.  I've used the built-in Data Comm and LXTCP, but it should work
with whatever software you normally use.

Ted

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:23:34 +0200
Reply-To:     Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

I think some of you might be interested, because here are so much
people from all over the world:

I published my favotite photos (most of them from trips to USA, Canada,
Greece, France...) on my home page.

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/photography

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:38:52 +0200
Reply-To:     Feher Tamas <etomcat@2FKFT.COM>
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Hello all,

Ritek Corp. <www.ritek.com> MicroStor announced an IBM Microdrive
"clone" for 4Q2001 release in the same CF format, but for half the
price (~200-250USD).

It would be a nice opportunity for us to start e-mailing them and ask
for increased focus on low power consumption. In those remaining 2-3
months they could probably undertake some changes to keep max. current
draw under 150mA even during the writes or provide a slower but
"energy save" mode in firmware for that purpose. But only if we can
convince them that extra low power consumption makes their product
much more competitive.

I guess many of us would welcome the idea of holding that much storage
in the LX.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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It is type II compact flash, so it will not fit in the HP 200
even if they reduced the power requirement.  Bryan


Feher Tamas wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Ritek Corp. <www.ritek.com> MicroStor announced an IBM Microdrive
> "clone" for 4Q2001 release in the same CF format, but for half the
> price (~200-250USD).
>
> It would be a nice opportunity for us to start e-mailing them and ask
> for increased focus on low power consumption. In those remaining 2-3
> months they could probably undertake some changes to keep max. current
> draw under 150mA even during the writes or provide a slower but
> "energy save" mode in firmware for that purpose. But only if we can
> convince them that extra low power consumption makes their product
> much more competitive.
>
> I guess many of us would welcome the idea of holding that much storage
> in the LX.
>
> Sincerely: Tamas Feher.
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Actually, it will fit.  I've done so already with my 1gig IBM Microdrive
(CF 2, using the provided CF 2 / PCMCIA adapter.

Not even a tight fit really, but the power sucking qualities leaves the LX
with barely enough juice but to see that the drive is there.

A few minutes and even lithium AA's are reduced to low power, requiring a
reboot.

- Longden

> It is type II compact flash, so it will not fit in the HP 200
> even if they reduced the power requirement.  Bryan

> > Ritek Corp. <www.ritek.com> MicroStor announced an IBM Microdrive
> > "clone" for 4Q2001 release in the same CF format, but for half the
> > price (~200-250USD).

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> I think some of you might be interested, because here are so much
> people from all over the world:
>
> I published my favotite photos (most of them from trips to USA, Canada,
> Greece, France...) on my home page.
>
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/photography

Nice photos, Daniel!  I especially liked the Acropolis shot.

EOS 10 is a very well-featured camera and it seems you have the eye to put
it to good use.

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Russel Brooks wrote:

> I think your basic problem is understanding what SECDEV does.

Thanks for your explanation of how SECDEV works.

I have got it working now -- actually it has been working all
the time, I just did not know :). I do have a backup of my
file, so after logging in, I copied it over to H:, write a
simple batch file to log in and open the file with PE, and I am
in business.

BTW, the volume I have set up now is very small, because at
present I am only putting just one text file in it. What
should I do if I want to modify the volume or move it to another
physical drive?

Thanks again for your help.

Ka Tai

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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> I have an idea but it is not perfect, it works on a windows box with
> long filenames but not on the palmtop. The reason is the dashes in
> the date output (06-06-2001) My file creates a Dos variable in the
> form day=3D06-06-2001, and on the palmtop it creates a directory 06-06-
> 20, which is unfortunately not what was intended.

I have received the source of a batch file which seems to
eliminate the -'s. I have written the author to see if he would
object to me posting it to the list.

Thanks for your suggestion.

> this is my batch file:
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> @echo off
> rem assigns the current date to environment
> rem variable "day"
> rem ************************************
> @echo set day=3D%%4 > current.bat
> @echo. | date > temp.bat
> call temp.bat
> del temp.bat
> del current.bat
> md %day%

I just do not know enough DOS to understand this batch file at
all.

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LEONG Ka Tai wrote:
> BTW, the volume I have set up now is very small, because at

My SecDev volume is only 64k because I only keep a few files
for passwords and similar private data.

> present I am only putting just one text file in it. What
> should I do if I want to modify the volume or move it to another
> physical drive?

Moving the volume file is no problem, first logout, then unhide
it and move the file to the root of the other 'real' drive.  You
also need to change the drive letter used in the Config.sys
command line.

Increasing the volume can be done a couple of ways.  One way
would be to create the larger volume with MKVOLUME and install
it as a 2nd secdev drive.  Then login to both drives, copy the
files to the larger drive, logout both drives, delete the old
small volume and change config.sys to only use the new larger
volume.

Some security comments...
1. If your private file ever existed on a non-encrypted drive
(like C: or A:) then even though you erased it portions of the
file may still exist as ASCII in unused sectors and could be
read with a disk editor. Running something Norton's Wipefile to
zero out a disk's free space is a good idea to keep someone from
being able to recover your erased file data.  Bun a backup first
though to be safe.

2. Having SecDev is good encryption but that assumes you will be
logged out if the LX is stolen.  If you Login, and stay logged
In then your data isn't very secure.  Here's my secdev line from
my config.sys; see that "/t13" at the end?  That causes the file
to logout automatically 13 minutes after last accessed.  I think
this is a very useful feature and releaves you of the burdon of
having to remember to logout.

device=c:\bin\secdev\secdev.sys c:\secdev.!@# /t13

3. Don't hide your secdev volume file.  Make it visable so it
can be seen and backed up with the rest of your files.
You may need to 'touch' the file timestamp or archive bit so
an incremental backup will see it.  You should also be logged out
during the backup.

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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> thank you for the hint and the example.
> I remember having read something like this on the list before, I am not
> sure if it was REXX, but there are other batch enhancer programs around I
> think. Maybe you know more about this. Or I should check the Hplx archive
> for it. I do not need it in the moment, but you never know...
>
> on 7 Jun 2001, at 2:06 Russel Brooks wrote about:
> > This is putting the cart before the horse but I find REXX to be
> > an EXTREMELY powerful custom utility package for BAT files.  :-)

Werner,
Rexx is NOT a batch enhancer, it is a very powerful language in
its own right and can be used instead of BAT files.  However its
flexibility also allows people like me to distort its true
purpose and make it perform batch enhancer duties as I
demonstrated.

There is a REXX provided with IBM's DOS v7 that I think runs on
the LX (and faster too I believe).

Rexx is a terrific language, ideally suited to novice
programmers.  Because it runs interpreted it is slower than
compiled languages like C, and because it is typeless it can
also run slower than basic.  (I make up the lost time by
finishing the programs quicker.  :-)

Cheers... Russ

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Too long.  Repost.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alfred Lee <alfred1520@yahoo.com>
To: LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>; HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
<HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
Date: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: secdev


>Hi,
>
>I don't remember the details but exactly for this reason I have written
>down the attached note.
>
>Note that secdev straightly speaking does not encrypt a file.  Rather
>you create a special file and give it to secdev.  It then take the file
>and uses its space to make up a new drive.  You use the drive just
>like any other drive.  However, the content of that special drive
>is stored in encrypted form in that special file.
>
>Good Luck,
>Alfred
>
>
>To create jam drive:
>====================
>1.  jcreate first /S=800 /c=4 /X=3000
>    500 is size
>2.  jdir first /a /q /s
>3.  Add to config.sys
>    device=a:\v\jam125sw\jam.sys /c=4
>    device=a:\v\jam125sw\jmount.com c:\jam\tc
>4.  reboot
>
>To check disk integrity:
>========================
>1.  jchkdsk f:
>
>To unmount:
>===========
>1.  jmount /d f:
>
>
>
> Volume in drive A has no label
> Volume Serial Number is 0000-3921
> Directory of A:\V\JAM125SW
>
>.            <DIR>     10-20-96   3:30p
>..           <DIR>     10-20-96   3:30p
>CHKALL   BAT      2187 03-10-95   1:25a
>EXTEND   BAT      1888 03-10-95   1:25a
>JAM      SYS     12574 03-10-95   1:25a
>JCHAIN   SYS      1001 03-10-95   1:25a
>JCHKDSK  COM     31740 03-10-95   1:25a
>JCMD     COM      1863 03-10-95   1:25a
>JCREATE  COM     16289 03-10-95   1:25a
>JDIR     COM     16730 03-10-95   1:25a
>JMAX     COM     17596 03-10-95   1:25a
>JMOUNT   COM     15567 03-10-95   1:25a
>JSIZE    COM     17880 03-10-95   1:25a
>JSWAP    COM      4787 03-10-95   1:25a
>SHRINK   BAT      2013 03-10-95   1:25a
>NOTES    AL        341 10-20-96   4:13p
>       16 file(s)     142456 bytes
>                      581632 bytes free
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>
>To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu <HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu>
>Date: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:41 PM
>Subject: secdev
>
>
>I am having problem setting up SECDEV and wonder if anyone can
>help.
>

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I got in this morning - bob

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>> I've been trying to get onto SUPER but keep getting no DNS entry replies?
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hi Russel,

on 8 Jun 2001, at 0:25 Russel Brooks wrote about:
Re: Backup

> > thank you for the hint and the example.
> > I remember having read something like this on the list before, I am not
> > sure if it was REXX, but there are other batch enhancer programs around I
> > think. Maybe you know more about this. Or I should check the Hplx archive
> > for it. I do not need it in the moment, but you never know...
> >
...

> Werner,
> Rexx is NOT a batch enhancer, it is a very powerful language in
> its own right and can be used instead of BAT files.  However its
> flexibility also allows people like me to distort its true
> purpose and make it perform batch enhancer duties as I
> demonstrated.

you are of course right. The term Batch enhancer is not correct for REXX.
Do you know a real batch enhancer? Super is online again, I think I can
find some tools there.

best regards,
Werner



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Oliver, Daniel,

I just bought a serial cable for my Nokia 6210 and plugged it as follows =
:
 Nokia 6210<->Nokia Serial Cable<->HP5181-6639 Adapter<->HP Serial =
Cable<->HP

I checked that the HP serial port is ON but still can't connect to the =
phone
with Post/LX or PDU or any other communication software.

Have you had success with this setting? Is there any Menu to activate the
serial cable on the Nokia 6210 side ? Is there a fixed baud rate (9600)?
Please report if you had success as my cable might be defective.

Thanks,

 \/
 /ves

p.s. Connecting via IR port using Post/LX works great if you position the
6210 and the HP about 50cm appart but this is not always convenient hence =
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That same setup of cables works for me with both DataComm and GP.  Sometimes
I have to go into DataComm and send a few AT commands to be sure that GP
will find the modem  Don't know why, but always if I can get a few AT/OK
with DataComm it then works in GP.  GP has no IrDA driver, so I do it this
way.

I did nothing on the phone to make it do that.

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Years ago, when the HP100 first came out, I got a small program from
someone.  It was a way of setting up a custom alarm for the APPT PIM.
It included a small tsr named "mplay.tsr" copied into _DAT of the C:
drive.  I have used it for years without any big problem, using a tune
that gradually increases in volume -- and gets my attention.  It has
worked on the HP100, HP200, and HP200 double speed.

Recently I purchased one of the Belgian RR HP200LX's from Thaddeus and I
can't get it to work.

Does anyone know about this program?  Has anyone had a similar problem?
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Russel Brooks wrote:

> This is putting the cart before the horse but I find REXX to be
> an EXTREMELY powerful custom utility package for BAT files.  :-)
> Here is my solution for creating/updating an environment
> variable called DATES (named after the Rexx Date() function
> whose "S"orted argument returns dates in YYYYMMDD format.)

Thanbk you for your sugggestion. Rexx does seem very powerful
indeed. I shall check out the website.

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        Bryan Biggers ably wrote:
> It is type II compact flash, so it will not fit in the HP 200
> even if they reduced the power requirement.  Bryan

Huh? Of course it will fit!!! PCMCIA Type I is 3.3mm. Type II
is 5mm, and Type III is 10.5mm. Type I and II fit in the
PCMCIA slot of the palmtop. Type III does not.
CF Type II is 5mm, like its ATA format cousin..

You put the CFII into the ATA PCMCIA adapter and slam it home!

I used the IBM Microdrive (after Avi Meshar and others posted
about it here). While the IBM drive needs too much power and
is not quite useful on the Palmtop, it DID work and it DID
fit.

   Joe S.


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        Daniel Hertrich ably wrote:
> I published my favotite photos (most of them from trips to USA, Canada,
> Greece, France...) on my home page.
>
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/photography

Vancouver picture is wonderful.

Indeed we have a great variety here - even professional
photographers. I was recently referred to a great collection
by someone who posts here, but I think it would not be right
to post the URL and name without permission. So you know who
you are <g> - please tell us your URL.

   Joe


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All,

 My company has just eliminated my prodigy account.  I use compuserve for =
my primary isp with my 200lx but have always found it important to have a =
second way of accessing the internet while travelling.
 Can anyone tell me if I can use Netzero as a backup isp with my 200lx?

Larry

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I can only log on to my NetZero account via a windows program.  Does anyone use NetZero with their palmtop?

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NetZero and Juno are merging into one company (United something or other - don't recall the full name), so I
would say it is up in the air what impact this will have on their services.

john - n0hj

Kat Deutscher wrote:

> I can only log on to my NetZero account via a windows program.  Does anyone use NetZero with their palmtop?
>
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Brand new Xtree Net
unused by human hands.

Brand new 95 F1006B
Mobile data link cradle and software
in olde krushed box.

Best offer plus postage.
prefer trade for a 200 docking stn.
will add 48 MB card.

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On Tue,  5 Jun 2001 18:36:59 +0800, LEONG Ka Tai wrote:

> Speaking of backups ...
>
> I have an idea for a backup scheme. Everyday a directory is
> created in my flash card (a:) which corresponds to the date,
> and my data files are backed up to it.

That is exactly what I do:

My goodnight.bat file:

Echo off
call dbsjekk.bat
Call backup.bat
off.com

Dbsjekk uses dbcheck and checks all my databases/appointment/notebooks.
It stops/pauses if it finds errors. I see that something is wrong when
I wake up in the morning.

Then it runs the

backup.bat:

@echo off
a:
cd \
cd back200
cd cdrive
rem deltree /y *.*
Rem used to dlete the content there which was a jamfile I copy from the
cdrive to the adrive when I backup.

g:
cd \
cd usr
cd lxbackup
maxdos.com lxbackup.exe
a:
cd \
cd back200
cd cdrive
c:
cd \
attrib -h pack1.jam
copy pack1.jam a:
attrib +h pack1.jam

It uses Lxbackup and pkzip to make a dir with the current date and then
zips all into the dir on the memorycard. Works just great.

I can explain in more detail if you want. This was just written in a
hurry. (I try to get through about 70+ Hplx-l messages :-)

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On Tue,  5 Jun 2001 07:59:03 -0500, Chris Lott wrote:

> Anyone have, or know of, any 802.11 wireless LAN cards that work in the
> HP200LX?

No, but tell us more! :-)

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On Tue,  5 Jun 2001 20:56:22 -0400, Victor Roberts wrote:

> On Mon, 14 May 2001 20:13:06 -0700, Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM> wrote:
>
> >
> > The appointment book is buggy.  The other database software is buggy; that's
> > why there's "dbcheck".  I use only stock hp software and the "zip" program
> > to automatically back up my data, so I find it difficult to believe that
> > I have some "configuration" problem.
>
> This is very strange. I have never had any problems with APPT
> or any of the other database applications.


I have had some troubles with the appt.adb when I have had Todo's that
I do not check off. But they are easily corrected with the use of
Dbcheck.

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Netzero's business model requires that it be able to splatter a
banner ad somewhere on your screen.  It is doubtful they have
any desire to support bannerless DOS based applications and
require a proprietary patched version of MSIE so that you
cannot disable the banners. If you have found a way to disable
the banners in a _"Free"_ ISP (Windows or DOS) I'd be very
interested to know how.

Juno, with which Netzero is merging is known for converting
over 60% of its users to paid accounts.  This is most likely
because most users cannot tolerate the restrictions and intrusions.
There have also been concerns (check via Google if interested)
regarding Juno's capacity and reliability of mail handling

Yahoo and Lycos also provide "Free" but banner required access.
All these "free" ISP's also _track_ where you browse.  While
they would find snooping on my surfing very boring, such silent
monitoring concerns a lot of people based on invasion of privacy
principles.

Unfortunately...TINSTAAFL there is no such thing as a free lunch

I too have looked for low cost alternatives:
The last time I checked, AT&T offered reasonably priced ISP
accounts that were highly rated (in transmit speed and minimal
disconnects) and free of such restrictions.  I think that NETtamer
and other DOS based browsers can be configured to interface
with their ISP.  Earthlink definitely can but is far more expensive.
I do not work for any of the above and as always, YMMV.

Hope this helps!

P.S.  If anyone knows of an economical means of linking a
cell phone to an ISP, please share with the listserv.  Many
cellular carriers charge by the kilobyte or eat your call minutes
making cell phone - palmtop too expensive.


----- Original Message -----
From: Kat Deutscher <TheOpr@AOL.COM>
<snip>
Subject: Re: Netzero


> I can only log on to my NetZero account via a windows program.
> Does anyone use NetZero with their palmtop?  <snip>

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>
>P.S.  If anyone knows of an economical means of linking a
>cell phone to an ISP, please share with the listserv.  Many
>cellular carriers charge by the kilobyte or eat your call minutes
>making cell phone - palmtop too expensive.
>

I have been using a MOTOROLA TIMEPORT phone with it's RS-232
cable (9-pin standard modem emulation at 19.2 kbps) and Sprint
PCS. It works well (within Sprint's digital coverage area.)

Dave

>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kat Deutscher <TheOpr@AOL.COM>
><snip>
>Subject: Re: Netzero
>
>
> > I can only log on to my NetZero account via a windows program.
> > Does anyone use NetZero with their palmtop?  <snip>
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-----Original Message-----
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John Hoh
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 8:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Netzero and others


Netzero's business model requires that it be able to splatter a
banner ad somewhere on your screen.  It is doubtful they have
any desire to support bannerless DOS based applications and
require a proprietary patched version of MSIE so that you
cannot disable the banners. If you have found a way to disable
the banners in a _"Free"_ ISP (Windows or DOS) I'd be very
interested to know how.

<snip>

Well actually there may be a way, but it's a violation of the ISP's terms of
service I'm sure. there's a program called RAS Spy that you can install on
your PC (not palmtop) and then install one of the free ISPs.  It captures
the real login info that the free ISP is using to log you in. You just
connect normally with RAS SPy running.  Then check RAS SPY to find the real
login ID and password the software is using to log you in to the ISP. Once
you have that you just use that information to create a plain vanilla dial
up networking connection and use that. From that point on you get no
banners.  I tried it for a week last year when I was traveling and it worked
fine. I never tried it on my palmtop as I did not have the need but I
believe it would work.  I no longer use this as my employer gives me free
cable internet at home and toll free dial in internet when I am on the road.

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Date:         Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:36:42 +0200
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:23:34 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> Hi friends,
>
> I think some of you might be interested, because here are so much
> people from all over the world:
>
> I published my favotite photos (most of them from trips to USA, Canada,
> Greece, France...) on my home page.
>
> http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/photography
>
> GTX
> daniel
>

Hi Daniel!

Really very nice pictures!

We meet each other quite often, we know each other since nearly
thirteen years and roughly phone at least two times a week.
We are really good friends - the best.

But many of those pictures excibited on your homepage I've never seen.
Im so happy to get the occasion to have a look at several stations of
your life, or at least of your life beyond Berlin and Germmany.

I'm so afraid of having taken up too much of your so valuable time. In
that case I want to term out my bad conscience in presence of all list
members. - Weekly I need your help in problems with my PC but so we
never had enough time to look on your pictures. Mow I make up for it.
But I promise to get better!

Konstantin


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Date:         Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:03:57 -0500
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Hello,

I've got some computer stuff on eBay you may be interested in,
including an AC adapter for your lx, a used 2gb Jaz disk, a Pinnacle
Micro 2.6gb Magneto-Optical drive that works in DOS, Win or Mac,
and a SCSI external zip drive. Everything is in perfect condition.

If you're interested please check the link below. Thanks!

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsLinkBUttons&userid=tomsalwasser

Best Regards,
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:34:47 -0700
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Folks,

Has anyone tried Sipix's Pocket Printer A6?
<http://www.sipix.com/pocket_printer.html#requirements>

or Seiko's DPU-3445 infrared handheld?
<http://www.seikoprinters.com/html/dpu3445.htm>

Patrick

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Date:         Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:40:59 -0700
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Folks,

I currently use a number of printing options. I have
Extended Systems's "Jeteye" infrared printer adapters
on two printers at home.

I have a HP2100 with a builtin IR port at work

I have played with a friend's HP 340 Deskjet with IR
adapter.

I have HP's old handheld thermal printer with an ir
port sitting on a shelf.

The first three work well but are big.

The fourth works poorly with my hplx.

So I keep seeing these IR handhelds on Ebay.
Has anyone tried them?
Will they work with the 200lx?
Are they any good?
How easy is it to buy paper?
How costly is the paper?

so forth

Examples are the Sekio DPU-3445 printer, and the SiPix
Pocket Printer A6 (PR-00033)

<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1243857564>
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1244473204>

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Date:         Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:46:15 -0500
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Hi all,

Was reading VERY old messages from the forum (HDD cleaning) and someone
mentioned Rot13 encode/decode. I remember this was a utility to replace each
letter in an emailed file w/ the letter 13 spaces "away" from it.

Thought it would be fun to play with that again.

Did a quick search of S.U.P.E.R. (and then a quick search of my PE help file
<grin>) to see if this util. existed. Anyone know of a DOS version of this?

TIA,

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Date:         Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:58:52 -0600
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From:         "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Subject:      On-line with Motoroa LX OB and 3CXM556
Comments: To: theise@netins.net, List OB <omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org>
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Thought this would be of interest to both the LX and OB
list.

Just tested out a Motorola ST7868W on an OB800CT with a MOT4
cable on a 3Com 3CXM556 cell capable modem. This combination
allows usage where digital cell service is not available. It
connected at 4800 analog in Denver. Have connected at 9600.
I am now on digital for this letter at 19200.

I think Theodore or someone on the LX said that this modem
worked in the LX.

In case you are wondering, service where I live is mainly
analog. I am also going to my cousin's in a week with no
phone lines. Needed to do some research on the internet and
don't know what service is available. Either way, I'm
prepare!

Bob

Theodore Heise wrote:
>
> Siegfried Witzgall writes:
>
> > just saw your message about going on-line with a motolola and your lx.
> > if that is correct, you may tell me all about this.
> > I own a 32mb 200lx and a motorola SJN9969A ( known as V50)and a SJN9068A
> > ( known as V3690) and i really would like to E-mail outdoors with this
> > equipment.
>
> Hi Siegfried,
>
> My phone is a Motorola ST7868W.  To go online I hook the HP serial cable
> to my 200LX, the Motorola data cable to the phone, and join the two 9-pin
> connectors with the HP null modem adaptor.  I make sure the LX's serial
> port power is on, and then connect with communications software using
> COM1.  I've used the built-in Data Comm and LXTCP, but it should work
> with whatever software you normally use.
>
> Ted
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> Netzero's business model requires that it be able to splatter a
> banner ad somewhere on your screen.  It is doubtful they have
> any desire to support bannerless DOS based applications and
> require a proprietary patched version of MSIE so that you
> cannot disable the banners. If you have found a way to disable
> the banners in a _"Free"_ ISP (Windows or DOS) I'd be very
> interested to know how.

The "bannerless" Free ISPs pretty much died with FreeWWWeb.com. These days,
everyone requires a special dialer, at a minimum, and usually banner ads.
This rules out "legally" connecting from anything other than supported
platforms. Some, are more hackable than others, when it comes to avoinding
the requiremens. Try a Google search for "DUNing".

> Juno, with which Netzero is merging is known for converting
> over 60% of its users to paid accounts.  This is most likely
> because most users cannot tolerate the restrictions and intrusions.
> There have also been concerns (check via Google if interested)
> regarding Juno's capacity and reliability of mail handling

As someone who keeps a NetZero account for a backup, I'm curious to see
which company the final one resembles

Personally, I have qualms with NZ, but it is generally reliable and I can
still get my POP3 mailbox without being connected. Juno always seemed very
clunky and seemed to have a closed mail system.

> Yahoo and Lycos also provide "Free" but banner required access.

Not any more...

> I too have looked for low cost alternatives:
> The last time I checked, AT&T offered reasonably priced ISP
> accounts that were highly rated (in transmit speed and minimal
> disconnects) and free of such restrictions.  I think that NETtamer
> and other DOS based browsers can be configured to interface
> with their ISP.  Earthlink definitely can but is far more expensive.

Only the most expensive ATT plan doesn't require a special dialer, cost is
comparable to Earthlink. The lowest cost that I've seen which does not
require a special dialer (just regular PPP) is WorldShare Prime
(http://www.wsprime.com).

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Hi Joe,

On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:00:23 -0400, "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/photography
>
> Vancouver picture is wonderful.
>
> Indeed we have a great variety here - even professional
> photographers. I was recently referred to a great collection
> by someone who posts here, but I think it would not be right
> to post the URL and name without permission. So you know who
> you are <g> - please tell us your URL.

Yes, please, please, tell us! I'm always interested in the work of
photographers - especially professionals, of course.

Thanks for all your feedback on and off list! It's great to see who
prefers which photo. But it seems that the sunset in Vancouver is
really the favorite one for all of you!

I'll soon add a few photos. Maybe a few of the pictures I took with my
digital camera in the last few months.

GTX
daniel


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Hi Longden,

On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:04:00 -0700, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

> Nice photos, Daniel!  I especially liked the Acropolis shot.


My personal favorite is the Virgin label. But I have it hanging on the
wall here on paper in a size of 30*40 cm, and this way it is of course
much more impressing than on a computer screen. Especially the colors
are not as good in a JPEG as on paper.

> EOS 10 is a very well-featured camera and it seems you have the eye to put
> it to good use.

Thanks. :-)
Yes, I love the EOS 10. Glad you know it. Not much people know that
camera, because it wasn't available for a long time. At least here in
Germany Canon sold it for about a year, not longer. Then the EOS 100 wa
the "replacement" model. I really don't understand why. The 10 is
nearly perfect for my needs.

Now I wish I had the money to buy one of the new digital Canon SLR
cameras. But they coest about 3000 US$ here... :-(

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:32:57 -0400
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Hi

I use my Hplx appointmentbook and also the calender in my Nokia 6210.

I enter into the Hplx appointmentbook when I am supposed to be at work
the next day and in the two weeks ahead. I also enter as a event if I
have work that or that weekend.

This is I also want in my phone. It takes me quite some time to enter
it twice.

I am not sure how the Vcal standard works.

What I want to do is what I do in the Hplxphonebook. I put the cursor
on the item I want to beam and then run a macro which uses a smartclip
to save the entery in a file with the correct Vcard things that the
6210 then get beamed with the use of ir.exe

I had a look at adb2vcal that are included in the Pim/lx package, but I
can not get it to work.

I am not sure how the Vcal "file" has to look like to get the 6210 to
accept it.

Is there anyone here that can help me out?

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Date:         Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:47:19 +0000
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Tim wrote:
> Was reading VERY old messages from the forum (HDD cleaning) and someone
> mentioned Rot13 encode/decode. I remember this was a utility to replace each
> letter in an emailed file w/ the letter 13 spaces "away" from it.
> Did a quick search of S.U.P.E.R. (and then a quick search of my PE help file
> <grin>) to see if this util. existed. Anyone know of a DOS version of this?

The following Rexx program will Rot13 encode/decode a file.
It requires Rexx, I posted a url to a demo Rexx a few days ago.


/** SayRot13.Rex **/
signal on syntax
signal on novalue
signal on halt

in  = arg(1)
out = 'c:\temptemp.tmp'

do while lines(in) > 0
  line = linein(in)
  call lineout out , rot13(line)
end

halt:
call lineout in
call lineout out

exit

/* ROT-13 Encoder/Decoder */
rot13:
tablei = 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz'
tableo = 'NOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklm'
return translate(arg(1),tableo,tablei)

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Date:         Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:07:47 +0000
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> Years ago, when the HP100 first came out, I got a small program from
> someone.  It was a way of setting up a custom alarm for the APPT PIM.
> It included a small tsr named "mplay.tsr" copied into _DAT of the C:
> drive.  I have used it for years without any big problem, using a tune
> that gradually increases in volume -- and gets my attention.  It has
> worked on the HP100, HP200, and HP200 double speed.
>
> Recently I purchased one of the Belgian RR HP200LX's from Thaddeus and I
> can't get it to work.

All I recall is that xxx.tsr programs must be located in the c:\_dat
subdirectory AND I BELIEVE that the hp must have its config.sys file and
autoexec.bat file also on c: for the c:\_dat\*.tsr files to execute???
Again, I think that is the case.  Do you have an expanded memory hp,
like a 32 meg, etc?  Then you would have to clarify which c: is c:? (G)

I don't know if foreign units react differently if the Belgian units
were foreign.

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Martin Bergvill wrote:

> It uses Lxbackup and pkzip to make a dir with the current date and then
> zips all into the dir on the memorycard. Works just great.
>
> I can explain in more detail if you want. This was just written in a
> hurry. (I try to get through about 70+ Hplx-l messages :-)

Thank you for your helpful message. I should like to know more
about LXBACKUP. Is it a program you have written yourself?

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On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:46:15 -0500, Tim wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Was reading VERY old messages from the forum (HDD cleaning) and someone
> mentioned Rot13 encode/decode. I remember this was a utility to replace each
> letter in an emailed file w/ the letter 13 spaces "away" from it.
>
> Thought it would be fun to play with that again.
>
> Did a quick search of S.U.P.E.R. (and then a quick search of my PE help file
> <grin>) to see if this util. existed. Anyone know of a DOS version of this?
>

I think I read something about this in the docs for POSTH. The addon
for Post/Lx.

Please check it out. You will find it at Dasoft.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:16:37 +0200
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Russel Brooks wrote:

> The following Rexx program will Rot13 encode/decode a file.
> It requires Rexx, I posted a url to a demo Rexx a few days ago.

snip

Well, I couldn't let that slip by unnoticed ;-)

Just for fun, here's the Perl version:

---cut here---

#!/usr/bin/perl
unless ($filename = shift) {die "\nSyntax: perl rot13.pl <infile>\n\n"}

open (FH, $filename) || die "Couldn't open $filename: $!\n";

while (<FH>) {
  tr/a-zA-Z/n-za-mN-ZA-M/;
  print $_; # prints to screen, not file
}

close FH;

---cut here---

Or as a one-liner:

  perl -pe "tr/a-zA-Z/n-za-mN-ZA-M/" infile


Perl can be found on SUPER but the executable's pretty big, 300kb+. A bit
much just for rot13...


bye,

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Date:         Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:28:40 -0400
Reply-To:     John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Hi Kat and All,

>I can only log on to my NetZero account via a windows program.  Does
anyone use >NetZero with their palmtop?

As others have said, Netzero is merging with Juno to form United Online.
A news article I read about it said that the free services will continue
to be supported under the Netzero brand name and the pay services will be
supported under the Juno name.

I don't know what future effect it will have on those who are still
accessing Juno using the old email only free access software, but so far
the old email only Juno software is still working great for me, even on
old 386 computers running Windows 3.0.

As for your specific question, I have managed to connect to Juno from a
DOS window on my desktop computer using the DOS based nettamer software,
but it appears that Juno connection doesn't offer a POP server to access
Juno email.

To connect to Juno's connection with any access software other than
Juno's official software, one must learn what their user ID and password
is after it's encrypted by Juno's software.

Once one knows their encrypted user ID and password, one may use the DOS
based Nettamer software to access the net through Juno's free connection
without dealing with ad windows.  One may then go to Juno's webmail site
and type in an unencrypted user ID and password, but the Nettamer
software doesn't seem to allow one to activate the login button to
actually log in.  Another DOS based web access software might work,
though.

Since I wasn't able to actually click the login button on Juno's webmail
site to log in, I haven't used the Nettamer software since, so I didn't
actually install the Nettamer software on my HP200LX for that purpose
either, but it's well documented that Nettamer does work on the HP200LX.

Except for Juno email access, one can browse the web, FTP and do anything
else using the Juno connection.

As far as the ethics of defeating the ad windows, Juno's own old email
only access software doesn't display the ads anymore anyway, so I
continue to legally use that old software all the time on my desktop
computer.  It's much more convenient and faster to use for email access
than Juno's newer full service access software. (BTW, it's still
perfectly legal to copy the old email access software for friends, even
though Juno no longer offers the old software.)

If you would like to know more about how to use free Juno internet
connections to connect to the internet, write to me privately and I'll
direct you to a website I discovered that explains how you can do it.

If anyone finds DOS based internet access software that works on the
HP200LX that is also capable of activating the Login button on Juno's
webmail site, please let me know.  That would then offer free Juno email
access from a HP200LX.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:26:02 +0200
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Hi Konstantin,

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:36:42 +0200, "Konstantin v. Witzleben" <konstantin.witzleben@GMX.DE> wrote:

> We meet each other quite often, we know each other since nearly
> thirteen years and roughly phone at least two times a week.
> We are really good friends - the best.

Yes, it is good to have such a friend like you - thank you for these
thirteen years!

> I'm so afraid of having taken up too much of your so valuable time. In
> ...

That is what friends are for, isn't it?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:48:54 +0200
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Hi friends,

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:07:47 +0000, "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote:

> All I recall is that xxx.tsr programs must be located in the c:\_dat
> subdirectory AND I BELIEVE that the hp must have its config.sys file and
> autoexec.bat file also on c: for the c:\_dat\*.tsr files to execute???
> Again, I think that is the case.  Do you have an expanded memory hp,

If you "boot" with a config.sys (and autoexec.bat) from A:, then you
have to put the *.tsr files in a:\_dat.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:59:03 +0100
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I have limited experience of these, more experience of the proprietary
Xircom (became ultimately Nortel Baystack) cards.  In fact I have 10 in my
desk :-)

There are 2 problems:

The older cards do have DOS drivers, but draw lot of power (you are after
all driving a radio transmitter!).  I can't see it in the product documents,
but IIRC it was about 250mA, well above what the LX will handle.   They are
comparatively slow (well, not for an LX) at 1Mbps, I used to get ~480 kb/s
from a laptop with sole use of the access point.

The newer cards *may* use less power - you might find the information on the
vendors sites.  However I suspect few will provide DOS drivers, and there is
no way they will work with generic drivers.  Certainly Nortel's current
802.11 products have no such support.  Sadly they don't provide Win2000
drivers for the old pre-802.11 hardware either, which is why they are in my
desk.

On the whole I suspect Bluetooth cards would draw less power - they are only
claiming a range of a few metres, where the 2.4GHz 802.11 cards are ~50
metres (more at 1Mbps, less at 11Mbps).   DECT cards would be even more
hungry, with a range of ~ 2-300 metres.   And GSM things like the Nokia
cardphone...

So IMHO best chance is a Bluetooth card, as power matters to them so they
can put them into cell phones.  A bluetooth card must be available that has
a LAN access point.  It's just those drivers...

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:48:02 +0200
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Le Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:46:15 -0500
Tim <palmtop@N-LINK.COM> a =E9crit:

> Did a quick search of S.U.P.E.R. (and then a quick search of my PE help=
 file
> <grin>) to see if this util. existed. Anyone know of a DOS version of t=
his?

You can search on Simtel, section "txtutl" (old name, you will have to
search, with the new site layout...)

According from my archive there was a "tsfltc22.zip" which had
  "dump,col,concat,cut,detab,rep,rot13,undump" utilities
 =20
This file must be still here, or you will find an upgrade (tsfltc23.zip,
  tsfltc24.zip...)
 =20
Not tried the utilities. Just checked with my offline list. =20


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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:21:38 -0500
Reply-To:     Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> I'm so afraid of having taken up too much of your so valuable
time. In
> that case I want to term out my bad conscience in presence of
all list
> members. - Weekly I need your help in problems with my PC but
so we
> never had enough time to look on your pictures. Mow I make up
for it.
> But I promise to get better!

I usually never look at pictures like this.  People post the url
of their vacation pictures and I look and see pretty much the
same thing friends show me of their vacation pictures and that's
enough for me.

But the comment above made me look at Daniel's pictures and Wow!
Those aren't like anybody's vacation pictures.  What an amazing
imagination you have!  Can we see more?

In case anybody missed them:
  http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/photography

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:40:43 -0500
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> Thanks for all your feedback on and off list! It's great to
see who
> prefers which photo. But it seems that the sunset in Vancouver
is
> really the favorite one for all of you!

It's hard to pick a favorite but I think I'd have to pick the
one in Crete.  I think they must be windmills.

Or maybe the view across the water to the tilted city of
Vancouver.  How did you get that effect?  Is it half a picture?

But there are so many good ones to choose from and such a range
of ideas.

Some of the things you've done with color are pretty amazing.
The fiery Sacre Coeur seems to be dripping with ice.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:48:27 +0200
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This question goes especially to the Greek list members:

The Temple which stands on Cap Sounion, is it a Poseidon temple (god of
the sea)? I was there, of course, but unfortunately I forgot to whom
that temple was dedicated.

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/photography/sounion.jpg

TNX
daniel

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Hi Ulrich,

On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:07:38 +0200, BOCHE@de.ibm.com wrote:

> > I wanted to be able to start a GDB in the database
> > application by
> > simply clicking on it in filer and added the line
>
> I'm using KeyStuff2 and have the following line in FILER.INI:
>
> GDB=C:\ks2.com @c@$@9%/

Thanks for the suggestion, but - where do I find keystuff2? I looked
for it on SUPER, but only found keystuff (version 2.0 for 200LX, but
you mean another one, I think) My version of keystuf contains ks.com
and kbuf128.sys. But
that seems to have problems with the backslash in the file name passed
to ks.com via filer.ini with the "%", since % contains backslashes only
as single backslashes, but ks.com requires a backslash to be doubled.

I assume ks2.com works around this by using the "@" as escape character
instead of the backslash, right? But I didn't find ks2.com.

GTX
daniel


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Hi Chris,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:59:03 -0500, Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM> wrote:

> Anyone have, or know of, any 802.11 wireless LAN cards that work in the
> HP200LX?

I'm just working on a project regarding MPEG4 video transmission in a
wireless LAN, therefore I got two 802.11b compliant wLAN cards from the
university to work with. These are ZoomAir cards (by Zoom telephonics
inc.). They work fine in my Linux desktop and laptop, no success so far
under Windows.
I once tried to insert one of the cards into the palmtop (always
curious, of course :- ), and the LED of the card began to shine, but
that was all.

Since you need special drivers to enable such a card, I don't think
there is a chance that we will ever be able to use wLAN with the
palmtop. SUch drivers only exist for Windows, Mac, Linux etc, but not
for DOS.

Regarding power consumption: I don't know if such cards would
technically be able to be driven by the palmtop. Power consumtion for
plain sending / receiving cannot be as much, because these cards have a
Tx power of about 15 mW (that is, they draw about 3mA @ 5V for sending.
Of course they need more current for all the other circuitry, but I
doubt they get beyond the 150mA limit).

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:13:23 -0400
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I think I may have found a way to use www/lx (and any other packet driver capable application) on a Win machine. The guy on this
site www.danlan.com has written a driver shim that will provide a packet driver interface to the Windows IP stack. He releases a
traffic limited version for demo purposes (just like our other favorite software vendor). The registered version is cheep ($15). I'm
gonna send my check off today if I can get it workin'.

So far I was able to get a version of ping that came with the watson tcp stuff to work. I was then able to get www.exe to run hv. I
presume that the initial ping packet worked because www.exe did not refuse to run but, when I tried to access web servers, I never
got a response. I'll keep screwing around with this and report my progress but I also thought I'd take the time to report it here so
that more knowledgeable folk could see what they can make happen.

thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:48:32 -0400
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It works! I was able to get hv to start downloading a web page but it then crapped out, presumably when the packet limit was
reached. I'm gonna try getting the ful version as soon as possible and report back.

Regards.



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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:13 AM
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Subject: Using www/lx on Windows 98 with ethernet support


I think I may have found a way to use www/lx (and any other packet driver capable application) on a Win machine. The guy on this
site www.danlan.com has written a driver shim that will provide a packet driver interface to the Windows IP stack. He releases a
traffic limited version for demo purposes (just like our other favorite software vendor). The registered version is cheep ($15). I'm
gonna send my check off today if I can get it workin'.

So far I was able to get a version of ping that came with the watson tcp stuff to work. I was then able to get www.exe to run hv. I
presume that the initial ping packet worked because www.exe did not refuse to run but, when I tried to access web servers, I never
got a response. I'll keep screwing around with this and report my progress but I also thought I'd take the time to report it here so
that more knowledgeable folk could see what they can make happen.

thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:18:41 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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Comments: To: ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM
In-Reply-To:  <NFBBIIMKOLAOGFKOJCHDKECECFAA.ohdamnthathurts@yahoo.com> from "Ed
              Padin" at Jun 11, 2001 03:48:32 PM
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> It works! I was able to get hv to start downloading a web page but it
> then crapped out, presumably when the packet limit was
> reached. I'm gonna try getting the ful version as soon as possible
> and report back.


I can report that I have had good luck running Dan's NDIS2PKT driver
on my Win98 machint for some other, non-palmtop related WATTCP programs.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:08:22 +0100
Reply-To:     Harry Wellner <hwellner@PLANET.NL>
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Hi List,

The Dutch Railway company worked recently with a
planner build for the HP200LX based on the 086-code.

They switch over to the HP-730 (?) but anyway the platform
is now Windows-CE (or pocket windows).

Also looking forward this year was the last issue of a
DOS version. But they forget to distribute the 086 and
only put the 386-code on their distribution material.

For this reason I am very interested if there is a way to
execute 386-code in a kind of simulation mode in order for
me to extend my HP200LX machine for another year. It was
the reason for me - amongst others  - to buy the machine.

Thanks for your time in reading this.

Harry WELLNER, Netherlands

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:26:33 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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Comments: To: hwellner@PLANET.NL
In-Reply-To:  <HPLX-L%2001061117082722@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU> from "Harry Wellner"
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> Also looking forward this year was the last issue of a
> DOS version. But they forget to distribute the 086 and
> only put the 386-code on their distribution material.
>
> For this reason I am very interested if there is a way to
> execute 386-code in a kind of simulation mode in order for
> me to extend my HP200LX machine for another year. It was
> the reason for me - amongst others  - to buy the machine.

Harry:

It is very unlikely.  Your best bet would be to see if you
can get them to release the 086 code.  The protected mode
features released in the 386 would be next to impossible to
emulate on a 186.  Now, I have encountered situations where
code was released for a 386 just as a convenience - the
developers just compiled it for a 386, while in actuality
it could run on a 186.  If you have good enough relations
with the supplier, then perhaps you can convince them to
release an 8086 version if possible.  But if they took full
advantage of the 386 features, I think you are out of luck.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:51:39 +0200
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Chris Lott wrote:

> It is very unlikely.  Your best bet would be to see if you
> can get them to release the 086 code.  The protected mode

I would agree.

Someone did write a real-mode 386 emulator (it's been discussed on the
list in the past), but as it turns out it requires a 286 since it runs in
protected mode...


bye,

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:37:52 -0500
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Thanks to all!

I've now got LOTS to tinker with!

There is a small (~6K) Rot13 .exe file in tsfltc22.zip ... I just went to
"shareware.com" and found a few sites.  BUT, all the neat answers I got,
will let me play w/w Perl and Rexx.

Thanks again!

--tim

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:13:22 -0400
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Dave

I looked up the 7/7 promo.  It appears that it has banners across the =
top.  Doesn't that mean that it can't work on 200lx (like netzero)?

Larry


>From: "david feldman" <wb0gaz@hotmail.com>
>To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM
>Subject: Re: Netzero=09
>Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 07:59:50 -0600
>
>No chance, Netzero depends on a very invasive proprietary >access/browser=
 for
>only windows 32 bit mode.
>
>I'd suggest you try AT&T (their "7/7" promotion gives you >$7/mo access =
to their
>dial network which is a good one.)

>Dave

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:29:34 +0200
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hello,

I have got a used EXP 1414 LXM modem/memory card at a very good price and
tried it with my 8MB HP200 LX /DS.
The installation process worked, I can also access the 4 MB memory on the
card, but the Fax Program Minifax does not work. It is installed in the
systemmanager, when I start it, I either get the message Program not found
or the program is found but it says:  error M01 ; thinfax Modemcard not
found.

I can access the modem card with datacom most time, not always.
It seems to be a power up problem, switching off and on the palmtop seems
to help, I can hear a soft click when the modem is powered and then it
works.
What I should mention is probably that I use Stefan Peichels Lxcic driver
instead of the cic100 which is installed by the modem card.

I hope somebody has experience with this kind of modem and can help me.

TIA,

Werner


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Date:         Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:13:47 +0100
Reply-To:     HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Ed,

> I think I may have found a way to use www/lx (and any other packet =
driver capable application) on a Win machine. The guy on this
> site www.danlan.com has written a driver shim that will provide a =
packet driver interface to the Windows IP stack. He releases a
> traffic limited version for demo purposes (just like our other favorite =
software vendor). The registered version is cheep ($15). I'm
> gonna send my check off today if I can get it workin'.

My approach is to create a multiboot environment and go from there. My
home setup is a quadrupple boot into either
- Windows 2000
- Win ME
- DOS 6.2
- Linux Debian 2.2

I have not done it yet but I will try to run WWW/LX after booting into
pure DOS.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:34:10 -0400
Reply-To:     Robert Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM>
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Subject:      AT&T  7/7 offer, was NetZero

I looked up the 7/7 promo.  It appears that it has banners across the top.
Doesn't that mean that it can't work on 200lx (like netzero)?

Larry

I set my mom up with the 7/7 AT&T deal.  It cost $7.00 per month for
unlimited internet access, and all your long distance calls are $0.07 per
minute.  The banners are very obnoxious, and I couldn't put up with them.
Not only do the banners constantly scroll accross the screen, in the AT&T
window, but at least once every minute or so, a new pop up window with a
random advertisement pops up right over where ever on the screen you are
working, and you have to knock it down to continue working.

When I had called AT&T to setup my mom, I also inquired if they had a
version of their software that would run on WinCE, and I was told that their
software would only run on Win 9x (don't recall them mentioning Win NT), and
that their internet access would not work without their software.  I am sure
a hacker could hack it, but I will stick with my current $150.00 a year
service for unlimited access, without the ads, and where I only need a
dial-up number.  I no longer even need primary and secondary DNS numbers.

Problem is with my service is that it got gobbled up by OneMain.com and then
again by EarthLink.  Luckily for me they are still honoring what I was
paying with TIR, and I still can use my TIR.com email name.  I can use
almost any machine as long as I have the dial-up number.  I tried to get my
mom hooked up with the same yearly deal, but now their unlimited access is
over $20.00 per month, and no discount is given if you pay for it yearly.

Best Regards,

Robert Hocking

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:47:23 -0600
Reply-To:     Donald Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Rot13 on the LX?
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Tim wrote:
 > Was reading VERY old messages from the forum (HDD cleaning) and someone
 > mentioned Rot13 encode/decode. I remember this was a utility to replace each
 > letter in an emailed file w/ the letter 13 spaces "away" from it.
 > Did a quick search of S.U.P.E.R. (and then a quick search of my PE help file
 > <grin>) to see if this util. existed. Anyone know of a DOS version of this?

I've been on a SED kick lately, so I just had to figure this one out :)

Encrypt with (all on one line):
y/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/nopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM/

Decrypt with (all on one line):
y/nopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/

Make sure you're using a version of SED that supports the y command.

Since you're already using PE (and probably SED) get the most out of both
programs by creating a macro of the above commands in PE.

Don (Qba)

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:21:58 +0200
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Donald Puscher wrote:

> I've been on a SED kick lately, so I just had to figure this one out :)
>
> Encrypt with (all on one line):
> y/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/nopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM/
>
> Decrypt with (all on one line):
> y/nopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/

Actually, you only need one of those ;-)


bye,

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Date:         Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:21:53 +0800
Reply-To:     Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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William,

Could you share your settings on Datacomm on how you got the Nokia fone
detected?  All these can be found under Settings menu (some in the Advance
submenu).

Baud
Interface
Parity
Data Bits
Stop Bits
Emulation
Local Echo (Y/N)
Enq-Ack (Y/N)
Flow Control

regards,

Oliver

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:50:16 -0600
Reply-To:     Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM>
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For those who are interested in the Rex 6000:

I was using one for a while and just found that it still doesn't
hold a candle to the 200LX and that, even though I was carrying
my essential data in the smaller Rex 6000, I was also still
carrying my 200LX, so it didn't really help me all that much.

So, about the time I was becoming weary of the Rex, I looked at
it one day and found it broken!  The screen was smashed, right
in the middle! I still don't know exactly how it happened.
Fortunately, I have a rider on my homeowner's insurance to cover
my computer equipment, so I'm not out the money, but, still I
was a little disappointed.

Richard A. Smith

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:15:19 -0700
Reply-To:     Russell Richter <rrichter@JUNO.COM>
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Hello,

I have made an LX specific version of the ScottFree Interpreter for the
old Scott Adams' (not the creator of Dilbert) adventure games which were
popular in the early '80s. It can be found at the URL listed below. There
is more information contained in the zip file.

Enjoy.

http://members.nbci.com/nunatuk/scottlx.zip

Russell Richter - rrichter@juno.com

All my life I wanted to be someone.
I guess I should have been more specific.

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Date:         Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:42:37 +0100
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I have these settings in DataComm:

Baud                    115200
Interface               Com1
Parity                  None
Data Bits               8
Stop Bits               1
Emulation               VT100
Local Echo (Y/N)        N
Enq-Ack (Y/N)           N
Flow Control            RTS-CTS

I see I also have a modem init string which was really for a different
modem...it seems harmless:

e1v1q0m0l0\N3%C1

As soon as I go into DataComm I can type 'AT' and get 'OK'.

I can use the ATI commands to get:

ati0=Nokia Mobile Phones
ati1=a lot of numbers!
ati2=SW03.01                    (this may be important!)
ati3=Nokia 6210



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Date:         Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:20:55 -0500
Reply-To:     TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Hello!

I was curious what list members prefer for quick updates of
weather and stocks. I use www.weather.com from my desktop but it
is very slow and always asks me if it can install Macromedia
Flash. For stocks, I actually use my compuserve classic because
it's very fast and flexible but I'd like to find another way. Is
there an email service that would send weather and stocks of my
choice? How about web sites? Thanks!

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:18:59 -0400
Reply-To:     Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Tom Salwasser wrote:

> I was curious what list members prefer for quick updates of
> weather and stocks.

For stock quotes I use Morningstar.com or CNBC.com.  Compuserve.com
MSNBC.com and yahoo.com are very error prone.  Many times instead of
picking up today's quote they will pick up yesterdays.  Or in the case
of
yahoo they will have the same old quotes for seven days in a row.  I
never could
find one compatible with the 200lx directly, I always plug the values
into a
spreadsheet which calculates value, changes, etc.

Beware: many of the websites with stock listings give the figures from
the
day before.

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Hi Ulrich,

On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:07:38 +0200, BOCHE@de.ibm.com wrote:

> I'm using KeyStuff2 and have the following line in FILER.INI:
>
> GDB=C:\ks2.com @c@$@9%/
>
> "\" is backslash and "@" is the at-sign (Klammeraffe).

Since you don't seem to mean the keystuff version 2.0, but another
"variant" of the executable called ks2.com (probably "home-made
patched"?), and since I couldn't find that version, which seems to use
the @ instead of the backslash, anywhere on the internet, would you
mind sending me your copy? This would solve my problem which I have now
with Keystuff version 2.0.

The latter takes the backslashes, passed by the "%" in filer, as escape
character instead of as backslash, so it doesn't work.

Thanks
daniel

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Hi Richard,

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:50:16 -0600, Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM> wrote:

> So, about the time I was becoming weary of the Rex, I looked at
> it one day and found it broken!  The screen was smashed, right
> in the middle! I still don't know exactly how it happened.
> Fortunately, I have a rider on my homeowner's insurance to cover
> my computer equipment, so I'm not out the money, but, still I
> was a little disappointed.

It probably was offended that you didn't leace the 200LX at home! ;-)

GTX
daniel

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Hi Barry,

On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:21:38 -0500, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

> I usually never look at pictures like this.  People post the url
> of their vacation pictures and I look and see pretty much the
> same thing friends show me of their vacation pictures and that's
> enough for me.

I know exactly what you mean ;-)

> But the comment above made me look at Daniel's pictures and Wow!
> Those aren't like anybody's vacation pictures.  What an amazing
> imagination you have!

Thank you! I'm glad they please you. Of course I also take pictures
as these you don't like (on vacations preferrably), but on the other
hand I see photography as a kind of art and so I practice it sometimes.
Not really professional, but quite good for an amateur I think.

> Can we see more?

Maybe. I'll see if I can find more really good picures. I'll let you
know then. But it can take a while. ;-)

GTX
daniel

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Hi Barry,

On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:40:43 -0500, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

> It's hard to pick a favorite but I think I'd have to pick the
> one in Crete.  I think they must be windmills.

Correct. On the Lassithi plain ("Ebene" in German, is it the correct
English word?), there are lots of windmills like these. Fascinating!

> Or maybe the view across the water to the tilted city of
> Vancouver.  How did you get that effect?  Is it half a picture?

It is just natural reflection on the water. No special effect at all
:-)

GTX
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Date:         Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:06:08 -0500
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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Donald Puscher wrote:
>
>> I've been on a SED kick lately, so I just had to figure this
one out :)
>
>> Encrypt with (all on one line):
> >> y/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTU rest of
line snipped
>
>> Decrypt with (all on one line):
>> y/nopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJK rest of
line snipped
>
> Actually, you only need one of those ;-)

I think in this case both are needed because both lower and
upper case are used.  "a" would encrypt to "n" and decrypt to
"A" if only one was used.

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On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Barry wrote:

> I think in this case both are needed because both lower and
> upper case are used.  "a" would encrypt to "n" and decrypt to
> "A" if only one was used.

No... have a look at those translation tables again:

  abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
  nopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM

  nopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM
  abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ


The second table is just the first one in reverse (in the sense search
pattern replaced with replacement pattern), but the first table already
covers all possible characters and their translations, both upper- and
lower case. The two tables have the exact same number of entries, only the
ordering is different (but the order is not important).

Besides, the rot13 algorithm was invented/chosen because it's its own
inverse - so if you've made a correct encryption algorithm, you've
automatically made a correct decryption algorithm, whether you wanted to
or not ;-)


bye,

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thanks to William Blankenship and David Holt who responded off list,

in the meantime I had some progress with the Modemcard, but it still works
very unreliable - which means most time it does not work.
I downloaded LXM-09.exe from Exp homepage and updated (?) the flashrom of
the modemcard. (several times)
This always worked fine.
I can always access the 4 MB memory of the card as drive F: (or G: on my
64MB HP200).
This are the good news.
Now the bad news:
I could several times start Minifax, once it was even possible to send, but
after 1 successful try the card did not respond again and the M01
respectively M04 error (thinfax modem not found) was displayed again.

I think that the card does not work with LXcic instead of cic100, so I
changed the settings to cic100, but still there is a problem.
When I switch on the palmtop I can sometimes hear a soft click which tells
me that the modem is powered on but sometimes nothing happens and usually
then the modem is dead also in datacom.

Maybe (or probably) there is a hardware defect, but I am not sure.
The chances to get a repair is low I think, because I am out of warranty
and the modem is no more mentioned on the EXP homepage.

well, and after having written this, the modem has died completely,
no click, no reaction in datacom, minifax says no thinfax found...
4 MB Ram are still available, the files in the flash rom are ok. thats it.

Werner



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> What I should mention is probably that I use Stefan Peichels
> Lxcic driver instead of the cic100 which is installed by the
> modem card.

I have used the 1414-LXM 4mb successfully with both lxcic and
cic100.  Can you see the fax software in Filer in the A: drive?
Here is what I have:

  Directory of A:\
  apname   lst        31 05-31-95   3:01a
  f16x17   dat     13056 05-31-95   3:01a
  install  exe      4181 07-30-96   9:44p
  logo     dat      5026 05-31-95   3:01a
  lxmdrv   sys     11141 01-15-97  10:39a
  lxmfmt   exe      4558 01-15-97  10:43a
  minifax  exm     74605 05-31-95   3:01a
  minifax  icn       200 05-31-95   3:01a
  minifax1 cov      4289 05-31-95   3:01a
  minifax2 cov      8560 05-31-95   3:01a
         10 file(s)     125647 bytes
                          1024 bytes free
-Geo.

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        Dr. Werner Furlan ably wrote:
> Now the bad news:
> I could several times start Minifax, once it was even possible to send, =
but
> after 1 successful try the card did not respond again and the M01
> respectively M04 error (thinfax modem not found) was displayed again.

You are in luck. The EXP Thinfax has a LIFETIME warranty. It
will cost you in shipping and time without the card, but they
honored my two replacements and several replacements by
friends.

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Date:         Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:33:14 +0100
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>
> Hello!
>
> I was curious what list members prefer for quick updates of
> weather and stocks. I use www.weather.com from my desktop but it
> is very slow and always asks me if it can install Macromedia
> Flash. For stocks, I actually use my compuserve classic because
> it's very fast and flexible but I'd like to find another way. Is
> there an email service that would send weather and stocks of my
> choice? How about web sites? Thanks!

For stocks and reports visit (in this case it is MOLEX) :
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=3Dmolx&d=3Dt

Weather links (focus on Europe) :
Cities in Europe
http://www.cnn.com/WEATHER/cities/europe.html
Wetter, Wetter, Wetter - WETTER.DE - HOME -
http://www.wetter.de/
WeatherNet University of Michigan -
http://cirrus.sprl.umich.edu/wxnet/
Weather Channel on CompuServe -
http://newsroom.compuserve.com/weather/maps.asp
Meteofax Wetterdienste GmbH Deutschland -
http://www.meteofax.com/
CNN - Europe Weather      Satellite Image -
http://www.cnn.com/WEATHER/cities/europe.html
AKTUELL WETTER FRAME-SET -
http://www.zamg.ac.at/akt_wetter_frm.htm
Live Weather Images  -
http://www.weatherimages.org/


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I seem to vaguely remember that someone on the List  had a
phone book ?  file reader in linux can you reply off list ??
If its GPL may I have a copy ???
just got an IPAQ  and I am running Familiar Linux with QPE on it

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Hi.   Anyone know if Jam has a disk size limit on compression?
I have been successful in the past with a 15 meg flash card, but
I have had many problems with a 96meg CF card.  I had envisioned
purchased a 128 meg card of a 220 meg in lieu of a 550 meg card,
which is what I need, by using compression.   Are the DOS
compressors outdated?  Any suggestions appreciated.

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I heard it was down last time but worked fine for me until yesterday.
Can anyone tell me what happened to the site?

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Daniel Hertrichwrote:

> Barry wrote:
> > Or maybe the view across the water to the tilted city of
>> Vancouver.  How did you get that effect?  Is it half a
picture?
>
> It is just natural reflection on the water. No special effect
at all

The buildings on the left are vertical but as you scan to the
right they begin to lean more and more to the right.  It
occurred to me that it could be paralax if this was just the
right half of the picture.

Barry

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At 10:32 AM 14/06/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi.   Anyone know if Jam has a disk size limit on compression?
>I have been successful in the past with a 15 meg flash card, but
>I have had many problems with a 96meg CF card.  I had envisioned
>purchased a 128 meg card of a 220 meg in lieu of a 550 meg card,
>which is what I need, by using compression.   Are the DOS
>compressors outdated?  Any suggestions appreciated.

Hi Domingo and all

RTFM  LOL (see below)

From what I understand of Jam you need to install Jam.sys with the /A
switch set to a value below for the larger drives. Depending if you set a
4k cluster size in jcreate or left as default you need from the left or
right column. External cache mentioned seems to indicate SMARTDrive,
HyperDisk,Super PC-Kwik (or its OEMs: PC-Cache and Qualitas  Qcache),
NCACHE2,etc.  I'm not sure if this would be needed on the LX or if /A
values mentioned could be changed given solid state CF speeds. I have the
Jam organisers email somewhere if you need it but I sense the info in the
table answers your original question.

Any further questions please email me and I'll do my best.

BTW If you go for a 220MB are you selling the 96? :)

Russell

From Jam.Doc

To increase compressed drives performance, JAM.SYS uses two sets of disk
buffers. The first ones are used to speed-up access to JDTs (JAM Drive
Descriptor Table) on mounted Archive Files. Each allocation buffer has
512 bytes (1 sector) of length and may consist of up to 128 clusters'
descriptors. It's quite enough to work with drives, whose overall size
is less than 10M. But, if your JAM drives have a large capacity, you
should enlarge this value. To choose the most suitable to your system
number of allocation buffers, use the following table:


JAM 1.20  User's Guide                                           Page 31
------------------------------------------------------------------------

---------------------+------------------------------------------------
JAM drive capacity   |     Recommended number of Allocation Buffers
                     |    clustsiz = 8K               clustsiz = 4K
---------------------+------------------------+-----------------------
     <=  20M         |           4            |           8
     <=  40M         |           8            |          16
     <=  70M         |          15            |          30
     <= 100M         |          25            |          45
     >= 200M         | you should set /A=2 and use external disk cache
---------------------+------------------------+-----------------------

ie I think default is 1 allocation buffer and you should be using 25 for a
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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Barry wrote:
>
>> I think in this case both are needed because both lower and
>> upper case are used.  "a" would encrypt to "n" and decrypt to
>> "A" if only one was used.
>
> No... have a look at those translation tables again:
>
>  abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
>  nopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM
>
>  nopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM
>  abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
>
>
> The second table is just the first one in reverse (in the
sense search
> pattern replaced with replacement pattern), but the first
table already
> covers all possible characters and their translations, both
upper- and
> lower case. The two tables have the exact same number of
entries, only the
> ordering is different (but the order is not important).

Maybe I'm missing something but please explain the scenario I
described above.  Using the first table you could decrpyt by
using it backwards.  But not by using it forward again.

> Besides, the rot13 algorithm was invented/chosen because it's
its own
> inverse - so if you've made a correct encryption algorithm,
you've
> automatically made a correct decryption algorithm, whether you
wanted to
> or not ;-)

I think that's only true if you use a 26 letter alphabet in
upper case.  As I understand it, the original idea of Rot13 was
that running it through the same program would encrypt or
decrypt.  That only happens if the alphabet wraps.  I don't
think the idea is to use the same table backwards.  That means
either two programs or a program that has to know whether it's
encrypting or decrypting.

Am I missing something?  I'm not expert on Rot13.  It just seems
like thats how the logic works out.

Barry

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I wrote :

> My approach is to create a multiboot environment and go from there. My
> home setup is a quadrupple boot into either
> - Windows 2000
> - Win ME
> - DOS 6.2
> - Linux Debian 2.2
>
> I have not done it yet but I will try to run WWW/LX after booting into
> pure DOS.

Tried it today without success. The external modem is on COM3 which is
a USB port. Maybe that's why WWW/LX does not detect a modem.

Altogether the behavior of the desktop is somewhat strange. In pure DOS
CPACK works - but only sometimes. ZIP works also - but only sometimes.
I have not found a pattern of this strange behavior. If I find
something I will report here.

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Date:         Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:21:57 -0400
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My weather and portfolio updates come via e-mail from Infobeat.  Sign up at
www.infobeat.com.

For an even quicker (and very lean) stock price report, create a little .htm
file with something like this:

<a
href="http://quote.yahoo.com/d/quote.txt?s=HWP+INTC+MSFT+IBM&amp;f=sl1d1t1j1
w1">
Quick price quotes</a> for all the following:&nbsp;
<dt>Hewlett-Packard, Intel, Microsoft, IBM</dt>

It will deliver in comma-separated values (CSV) format, ready for import
into a spreadsheet or database, any of the quotes you list symbols for.  The
lines returned contain: Symbol, Price, Date, Time, Market valuation, and
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What I have tried: Several months ago I tried to get an Enterasys RoamAbout
802.11b wireless PC Card to work in my 200LX and found several problems.
Enterasys provides a DOS driver package with both packet and ODI drivers,
but they seem to require either Card Services or a true Intel PCMCIA
controller (82635).  For whatever reason, the card enabler never seemed to
actually work.

There may be a problem with power draw as well, as Enterasys rates their
card as follows:

Doze Mode 9 mA
Receive Mode 185 mA
Transmit Mode 285 mA
Power Supply 5 V

It's that darned Transmit Mode I worry about.  But they supply these for
Windows CE systems, so they did have some considerations for battery-powered
systems.

About a year ago I briefly played with an Intel wireless LAN card and they
claim to have DOS drivers as well, but I had no time to load the drivers and
test it out.  Inserting the card and running LXCIC seemed to turn the card
on and produce an identifier from the card, so there may be some hope there.

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Hi Ted,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 09:33:46 -0500, Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> > Caution! Lighton switches only the Tx pin on and off! Actually it is only
> > for permament powering of my LED light
> > (http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight).
> > It is not suitable to set the COM port specs for any communication
> > purposes!
>
> Perhaps not, but I use it regularly to turn on power to COM1 before
> going online with my Motorola ST7868W mobile phone.  Maybe I'm just
> lucky?

No, it seems to work this way indeed.
I verified that behaviour now.

GTX
daniel

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Domingo,
I used Stacker (sp?) on a larger Type III PCMCIA card on my IBM PC110.
Installed Win95 on it. Works fine.

Dennis

>  Are the DOS compressors outdated?

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Hi all
I have a 96 MB flash card I'd trade
for a LX docking station if anyone
is innerested.

yor pal al


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Hello.  Anyone knows any good deals or fire sales on digital cameras =
lately?  I have been looking at the HP 215 as a possibility.  It's a 1 =
megapixel camera with viewfinder, which takes CF cards, and sells at my =
local Walmart for $188.  The Polaroid PhotoMax PDC640CF ($139) and the =
PDC 700 ($179) are also possibilities.  My needs are simple: 35mm type =
of quality and ability to interface with my computers, including of =
course my hp200lx.   I have seen a number of reasonable looking cameras =
for well below $100, but they lack a viewfinder, and their only pc =
interface is a usb cable.  For casual use this might be good enough but =
ocassionally I'll need to take a lot of pictures (hence the CF Card), =
and I have found the viewfinder essential for instantly determining that =
I messed up a picture.  I don't know enough about digital cameras to =
determine whether other features are at all important.  Any suggestions =
appreciated.

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Date:         Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:38:40 -0400
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Domingo wrote:

> Hello.  Anyone knows any good deals or fire sales on digital cameras lately?

I would hold off for a little while, there are bound to be some
really good sales.  Polaroid just announced a layoff of 1/4 of
their workforce, they should have some really nice sales coming
up.   Many other companies are having similar problems.

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Date:         Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:48:23 -0600
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FYI "35mm type quality" isn't very achievable with any consumer
grade digital camera (yet); 8-bit/256-step intensity quantization
and limited pixel space (35mm is probably equivalent to several
thousand pixels in each dimension) are a feature of most any
digital camera we'd buy at retail these days. Still, the PDC
700 generates a decent 4x6" print when using a decent color
printer (I use HP deskjet 970 with HP photo plus paper.)

I bought a Polaroid 700 at Wal-Mart late last year, and I've
generally been pleased with it. I wanted CF removable media
I could plug into my old HP OMNIBOOK 425; a Sandisk CF worked
fine for this purpose (could be moved between the HP and the
camera, but the HP generally needed to be hard-rebooted after
the CF was absent for a period of time or various bad crashes
would occur; this is no big deal for me.) I also wanted a camera
that would run off regular AA NiMh cells as I didn't want to get
trapped into the proprietary battery pack "profit center" mess.

(BTW the various image editing programs I found for the Omnibook
weren't very good just because the CPU power of the 425SX in the
OB still isn't quite enough to decently handle JPG images of
any size.)

Anyway, my few griefs with the Polaroid are that it has about
six seconds of "dead time" after you take one shot before you
can take the next; I suspect this is some kind of processing
time (does not vary with image format/size) but it's still rather
inconvenient. The larger (XGA) size images are something like
992x760 or something, not quite official 1024x768 but again
not enough difference to worry about for me. Image quality is
quite good for a "cheapie" camera and it's been rugged and
reliable, save for the minor software quirks that got into the
design. At one point I ordered a replacement soft case from
Polaroid after the first one was damaged by me; they were
good to deal with on-line and by phone, which probably stems from
their big-corporate structure. Another item I just remembered;
the PDC 700 boots up in "XGA" mode and if you change it to VGA
mode (640x480) it doesn't remember that change across power-off
states, so I've just tended not to bother with that mode.

>From: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
>Reply-To: Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
>To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Fluff:  Digital Cameras
>Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:12:07 -0400
>
>Hello.  Anyone knows any good deals or fire sales on digital cameras
>lately?  I have been looking at the HP 215 as a possibility.  It's a 1
>megapixel camera with viewfinder, which takes CF cards, and sells at my
>local Walmart for $188.  The Polaroid PhotoMax PDC640CF ($139) and the PDC
>700 ($179) are also possibilities.  My needs are simple: 35mm type of
>quality and ability to interface with my computers, including of course my
>hp200lx.   I have seen a number of reasonable looking cameras for well
>below $100, but they lack a viewfinder, and their only pc interface is a
>usb cable.  For casual use this might be good enough but ocassionally I'll
>need to take a lot of pictures (hence the CF Card), and I have found the
>viewfinder essential for instantly determining that I messed up a picture.
>I don't know enough about digital cameras to determine whether other
>features are at all important.  Any suggestions appreciated.
>
>Domingo
>
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<<I have a 96 MB flash card I'd trade
for a LX docking station if anyone
is innerested.

yor pal al>>

Hi Pal Al,

Send me your address, and I'll send you a docking station. We will NOT test
it or warranty it. If you are happy with it, good, then send me the flash
card. If you it doesn't work or it won't suit your purposes, then throw it
away. OK?

This brings up a general challenge for us. We have LOTS of used 200LX stuff
-- EXP modems, software, etc.  However, to test, warranty, support, and
market it and keep customers happy doesn't seem to be worth the effort.  I
am open to ideas.

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Date:         Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:14:51 -0400
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From: "david feldman" <wb0gaz@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Fluff: Digital Cameras


> FYI "35mm type quality" isn't very achievable with any
consumer
> grade digital camera (yet); 8-bit/256-step intensity
quantization
> and limited pixel space (35mm is probably equivalent to
several
> thousand pixels in each dimension) are a feature of most any
> digital camera we'd buy at retail these days. Still, the PDC
> 700 generates a decent 4x6" print when using a decent color
> printer (I use HP deskjet 970 with HP photo plus paper.)

I realized what I was saying after I sent the message, but I
figure people would understand that I am not a professional
photographer.
As a comparison to what you posted, some of the reasons I am
inclined towards the HP 215 are:
1-1.3-megapixel CCD delivering up to 1,280 x 960-pixel
resolution images.
2-Power by four AA alkaline batteries (or optional AC adapter).
3-Software CD containing ArcSoft PhotoImpression, PhotoMontage,
and camera drivers (for Windows only).

If these reasons mean it is a better camera than the Polaroid
one (specially the megapixel part), then it probably is worth
the extra $10 (on the other hand, I am not sure that the very
popular HP 315 is worth the extra $110, though the specs are
impressive).

Thanks for your comments.

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> This brings up a general challenge for us. We have LOTS of used 200LX
stuff
> -- EXP modems, software, etc.  However, to test, warranty, support, and
> market it and keep customers happy doesn't seem to be worth the effort.
I
> am open to ideas.

What about listing them on EBay?  I don't know the seller cost, but if it's
prohibitive to sell by item, you might just sell "grab-bags" of items sold
ASIS.

The stuff that doesn't sell, you could donate to your favorite charity.

- Longden (a non-profit organization)

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Hal,
I would expect Jeff Johns to pop up here.....Isn't he the big eBay seller? I
Think Longden had a good idea. Grab bags. I would buy stuff as-is, if it were
priced right. With the statement up front that there will be no support, who
could complain. Besides, this group is a treasure trove of support, should
something have a problem. Maybe a list posted to the list, or a webpage,
could tell what you have and the price.

Thanks
Dennis

> This brings up a general challenge for us. We have LOTS of used 200LX stuff
>  -- EXP modems, software, etc.  However, to test, warranty, support, and
>  market it and keep customers happy doesn't seem to be worth the effort.  I
>  am open to ideas.

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I posted:

<<This brings up a general challenge for us. We have LOTS of used 200LX
stuff
-- EXP modems, software, etc.  However, to test, warranty, support, and
market it and keep customers happy doesn't seem to be worth the effort.  I
am open to ideas.>>

I have already gotten 4 private emails requesting used products.
Unfortunately, that is not what I intended by the post.

We need a solution before we can start selling the used products -- and I am
not optimistic.  If we sell a used product, we have to price it, test it,
warranty it, support it, and market it. If we don't do this, we will have
unhappy customers which also makes for unhappy employees who have to deal
with them.  I don't see how we can make it work, although I am open to
suggestions.

Until we work out the answers to the above questions, we can't sell used
products.

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I'm in need of two Visors/Pilots in a hurry for two daughters (18yr / 21yr
).  One is for a HS grad present (in preparation for college) and the other
is for a birthday present (and in preparation for being laid up for about
weeks in a hospital).

My hoped for limit is $200 per, and I need to buy today or tomorrow (or
order by today, if online).  Used (ie EBay) is not an option.

I'm looking at some local stores and seeing the 8mb Visor delux for $199
(with some perks) and see the faster Visor Platinum for $249 (with less
accessories).  The Platinum is higher than my limit, but perhaps the extra
benefit is worth the $50/per?

I'm not sure what the equivalent Palm offerings are, or how they compare in
price, can anyone give me a quick compare (and maybe opinion)?  And if
anyone knows of a good sale, I'd like to hear also. Thanks.

- Longden

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You've already gotten some input, so some of my statements may be redundant
(tho that never stopped me before either).

> Hello.  Anyone knows any good deals or fire sales on digital cameras
lately?  I

No.  Haven't been looking, sorry.

> have been looking at the HP 215 as a possibility.  It's a 1 megapixel
camera
> with viewfinder, which takes CF cards, and sells at my local Walmart for
$188.

shopper.cnet.com shows a low price of $173 from BuyDig in New Jersey, but
the $20 shipping means your Walmart may have the edge ... depends on taxes.

> The Polaroid PhotoMax PDC640CF ($139) and the PDC 700 ($179) are also
> possibilities.

http://www.dpreview.com/ <- this is a good source of information and lets
you do camera comparisons side-by-side as well as very good in-depth
reviews.

>My needs are simple: 35mm type of quality and ability to

As pointed out (and as you've already acknowledged), this is quite a
daunting requirement.  The output needs is what drives the camera quality
issue.  You must determine what the highest resolution you will be
satisfied with for a given price.

The Canon A50 was a nice camera that interfaced well with the 200LX (CF and
serial) and had the same resolution (1280x960).  I gave mine to my daughter
who uses it frequently.  The other features in the Canon include a zoom
lens (useful if you're not inclined or unable to move), but this is moot
since the camera is discontinued and hard to find.  I bought mine for $199
about 1 year ago.  1.3 megapixel cameras are something of a commodity these
days and may be difficult to differentiate among the high and low end
manufacturers.

> number of reasonable looking cameras for well below $100, but they lack a
> viewfinder

You must be referring to the LCD viewfinder.  Many photographers complain
about the lack of an optical viewfinder.  The LCD is nice (very) in letting
you preview and review shots, but when sucks the juice from the AAs fairly
quickly.  Most good cameras will give you both viewfinders (optical and
LCD, with the latter switchable on/off).

> I don't know enough about digital
> cameras to determine whether other features are at all important.

Useful items not on the 215:
- camera zoom (only digital zoom is provided on the 215)
- white balance (so you can compensate for different lighting situations)

Most of the other features are useful depending on how anal you are about
getting the shot "just so".  Snapshooter cameras are great to get an image
90% of the time.  More features (not to mention expensive interchangeable
lenses) gets you the last 10% (ie, shooting a gymnast in dim light without
a flash).  A snapshooter camera will take a picture suitable for an album,
but a better camera (and the wherewithal to use it) in the same situation
will take a photo suitable for framing.  Which features are important
depends on your needs.

These days, I buy a digital camera (I on #4) at the highest price that I
can afford to replace in 6-12 months.  That guideline keeps me from the
bleeding edge and from the blue-light specials.

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Longden Loo wrote:

> I'm in need of two Visors/Pilots in a hurry for two daughters (18yr / 21yr
> ).

You are in luck, you need a device, palm needs to loose some inventory.
Palm is hurting for money right now, they are about to destroy thousands of
units in excess inventory.  Rumors abound that Sony, Apple, and IBM are
interested in buying out palm.  Steve Jobs was quoted last weekend as
expressing an interest in buying Palm.  Compare prices, there should be
some really good sales available.  Have you looked into the pocket pc?
HP just came out with a lower priced unit the hp525?  Compaq also has
some nice units out.

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Hal Goldstein wrote:

> Until we work out the answers to the above questions, we can't sell used
> products.

Aren't most of your "like new" 200lxs used?

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Hal;

Realize that those subscribed to this list are (a) generally familiar with
who you are and what your company is all about and there enough good reviews
about your work and products that we know you're not trying to snow us; (b)
dedicated palmtop fans who understand the value of these items.

How about making them "list specials?"

Step one is an inventory to the list (not the web).  Specify your terms - no
returns, no warrantee, whatever you're comfortable with;
Step two is to solicite private bids.

An option is to send them ALL to Longden and he can do same to raise money
for his non-profit company :)

Martin

Hal Posted:

<<This brings up a general challenge for us. We have LOTS of used 200LX
stuff
-- EXP modems, software, etc.  However, to test, warranty, support, and
market it and keep customers happy doesn't seem to be worth the effort.  I
am open to ideas.>>

I have already gotten 4 private emails requesting used products.
Unfortunately, that is not what I intended by the post.

We need a solution before we can start selling the used products -- and I am
not optimistic.  If we sell a used product, we have to price it, test it,
warranty it, support it, and market it. If we don't do this, we will have
unhappy customers which also makes for unhappy employees who have to deal
with them.  I don't see how we can make it work, although I am open to
suggestions.

Until we work out the answers to the above questions, we can't sell used
products.

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Here's a useful diagnostic for x86 based pcs which I believe
most of you have in addition to your LX(s).

 http://memtest86.com

Unless you know otherwise my recommendation is...

...DO NOT RUN ON YOUR LX !!

The reason is the LX uses much of its memory as disk space to
store your data and I fear a memory test that wasn't aware of
this would wipe it out.  However it's your data so if you try it
let us know how it went.   :-)

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> Hal Posted:
>
> Until we work out the answers to the above questions, we can't sell used
> products.

I would like to see a way for Thaddeus to sell these used items.  I for one
would trust Thaddeus long before I trusted some unknown clown on E-bay.
I've found from past years that Thaddeus is a good organization and trust
worthy.

I for one hope that  a way can be found for Thaddeus to sell these used items.

Since Thaddeus has served the 200lx community for many years I hope
a means can be found to funnel these used items through Thaddeus.

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hi George,

On 13 Jun 2001, at 13:31, George Coleman wrote:

> > What I should mention is probably that I use Stefan Peichels
> > Lxcic driver instead of the cic100 which is installed by the
> > modem card.
>
> I have used the 1414-LXM 4mb successfully with both lxcic and
> cic100.  Can you see the fax software in Filer in the A: drive?

yes - I can always see the contents of A:
I can always access the 4MB flash drive.
The only problem is modem access, and starting Minifax, because the
modem is not ready most of the time and Minifax detects this.
In the meantime I found out that it is not the fault of Lxcic, it is
the same with Cic100. I was able to send and receive on or two faxes
in endless tries, but most time the modem is dead.

I could not find a pattern what makes the modem fall asleep.

But EXP service answered my email and I am discussing the problem
with them now. I even got a RMA number and probably will send them
the modem for a check.

best regards,
Werner


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On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Barry wrote:

> Maybe I'm missing something but please explain the scenario I
> described above.  Using the first table you could decrpyt by
> using it backwards.  But not by using it forward again.

Backwards, forwards, doesn't matter. Let's reiterate the rules for Rot13
encoding. A letter is transformed into another letter. There's not
shifting involved, so the letter 'a' will always translate into 'n' and
vice versa. The same goes for upper case letters. A lower-case letter can
never be translated into an upper case letter or vice versa (it'd make no
sense). The Rot13 encoder does not touch non-letter characters in the
ASCII set (as such, rot13 works on the _alphabet_ and has nothing to do
with ASCII, but when implementing it you will of course have to consider
the computer's character set). When en- or decoding, non-alphabet
characters pass through the algorithm untouched (again this is only
relevant when implementing the algorithm - the algorithm itself does not
include non-alphabet characters at all).

Here's the translation table again: the characters in the upper line (all
possible characters) translate into the characters in the lower line.

 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
 nopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM

Put another way, The rot13 algorithm establishes relationships between
between the characters, in pairs: 'a' and 'n', 'b' and 'o', etc. 'a' is
always translated into 'n', and likewise 'n' is always translated into
'a'. Because of that you only need one table as it covers all
possibilities, and each character only appears once in each part (search
part and replace part) of the table. It's also because of this that you
can reverse the table if you wish, the relationship remains the same.

> I think that's only true if you use a 26 letter alphabet in
> upper case.  As I understand it, the original idea of Rot13 was
> that running it through the same program would encrypt or
> decrypt.  That only happens if the alphabet wraps.  I don't
> think the idea is to use the same table backwards.  That means
> either two programs or a program that has to know whether it's
> encrypting or decrypting.

The alphabet does wrap. If you were implementing it in C, then you would
have to wrap the alphabet when rotating the character 13 spaces (use
modulo) and possibly also take into consideration that 'a' to 'z' is not
char 1 to char 26. I think what might be confusing is that when using sed,
you don't take the wrap issue into consideration at all - you simply make
a translation table that's big enough to cover all possibilites.

The sed command:

  y/abc/def/
    ||| |||
    ||\-/||
    |\---/|
    \-----/

Simply means "translate 'a' into 'd', 'b' into 'e', 'c' into 'f'"


Does this make sense? I'm not sure I'm very good at explaining it, but I'm
quite sure I am correct ;-)

If you want to discuss it further, then it's probably better if we do so
in private e-mail, seeing as how this is fairly off-topic (and quite
possibly boring some people)


bye,

Laust

BTW. as an encoding algorithm, Rot13 encoding is very weak. That's why I
always use double-Rot13 encoding ;-)

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On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Russel Brooks wrote:

>  http://memtest86.com
>
> Unless you know otherwise my recommendation is...
>
> ...DO NOT RUN ON YOUR LX !!

I don't think you can, actually. memtest86 is based on the sources for an
older version of the Linux kernel and is likely to use 386 instructions.
Furthermore, it needs to be booted, cannot be started from the OS. I'm not
sure you can execute a custom boot-sector/loader on the LX. From a
flashcard maybe? Even Minix is booted from DOS...

> The reason is the LX uses much of its memory as disk space to
> store your data and I fear a memory test that wasn't aware of
> this would wipe it out.  However it's your data so if you try it
> let us know how it went.   :-)

Well, accessing the memory chips directly is very LX-specific, so I doubt
that memtest86 would even have that functionality. Assuming you could run
it on the LX, it would most likely only see the normal 640kb, like most
other generic DOS programs.

I suppose running chkdsk or a surface scanner on the internal C drive
would be the closest thing to testing the memory. Unless the LX' built-in
self diagnostic mode (which you can access while booting, on the 95LX at
least) has a memory test routine.


bye,

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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Russel Brooks wrote:
> >  http://memtest86.com
>
> I don't think you can, actually. memtest86 is based on the sources for an
> older version of the Linux kernel and is likely to use 386 instructions.
> Furthermore, it needs to be booted, cannot be started from the OS. I'm not

Excellent points, I hadn't thought things through.
I still think it a useful tool for non-LX pcs.

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> Domingo Wrote:

> inclined towards the HP 215 are:
> 1-1.3-megapixel CCD delivering up to 1,280 x 960-pixel
> resolution images.
> 2-Power by four AA alkaline batteries (or optional AC adapter).
> 3-Software CD containing ArcSoft PhotoImpression, PhotoMontage,
> and camera drivers (for Windows only).
>

I have a Kodak 3200 and have found it to be great. It almost identical to
the 215. 2X digital zoom, 4 AA batteries Alkaline or rechargeable, 1
megapixel, viewfinder and LCD display, High Impact plastic case, Serial
connection, Software, CF memory cards. When I got mine I took over 270
pictures of mixed modes with the included Alkaline. I then took 30 more
with flash and the LCD on in total darkness of my daughters accident
before the battery icon showed power dropping. Preview mode is LCD on all
the time and Quick View mode turns the LCD on for a second to let you see
the picture so you know if it is what you wanted ) Both can be used at
the same time. I have had the camera on for 4-6 hours continually at
computer shows using 1600 Ni-MH. And I put 93 low resolution photos on an
8 Meg card. 1 meg compressed mode the 8 meg held 40 photos, and it 1 meg
uncompressed mode it held 12 photos. All are Jpeg formats.
The company I work Computer Shows for, sold about 800-1000 of them until
the stores started selling them for $179.99 and there is a $30.00 rebate
at Kodak web site. It may not be the prettiest camera but its functional
and nine has survived 3 drops so far with out even a scratch.

Just letting you know how I like my camera and which ever you pick the
best of luck. And I would very much like to know which you get and how
you like it.

John LaMaide
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hi Jos=E9 Angel,

On 15 Jun 2001, at 17:07, Jos=E9 Angel de Castro Barco wrote:

> I use IR Jeteye for print in HP2000 printer via infrared port.
>
> It works fine in pure dos aplications (Wp, PCglobe,....) but don't
> work in System manager.
>
to print via Infrared from system manager applications you need a
different setup. This is my batch for it:

lamptsr.com /l /i
comtsr /L
200

I found the necessary programs at Super.
be sure to set the printer port in the system manager configuration
to the infrared device and choose the correct Printer type.
I use HP Laser and in the printer setup of each application (e.g.
appointments) I had to setup the initialization for the right printer
emulation in the HP, otherwise some special characters would not be
printed o.k.
in my case I used \027(8U
but that might differ for you. You will have to study your printer
manual for this.

good luck,
Werner


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On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Russel Brooks wrote:

> > I don't think you can, actually. memtest86 is based on the sources for an
> > older version of the Linux kernel and is likely to use 386 instructions.
> > Furthermore, it needs to be booted, cannot be started from the OS. I'm not
>
> Excellent points, I hadn't thought things through.
> I still think it a useful tool for non-LX pcs.

Very. Each time I install more memory in a PC, I let it run memtest86 the
night over. Haven't actually found any errors yet, but I suppose that's a
good thing :-)


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I use a Kodak DC 4800. I believe that the breakpoint for taking pictures and
making them into prints on photo paper is 3 megapixels. The 4800 is 3.1
megapixels (2160x1440).

I find the Kodak DC4800 very easy to use, and yet, if I wanted to I could
override almost every setting. Heck, it even has a hot shoe! When people
compare the DC4800 they compare it to the 3030z and the Nikon 990, both of
which cost hundreds of dollars more.

For a really good website comparing the digicams, check out
http://www.dcresource.com, and good luck finding a camera you are happy
with!

Mike...



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> Domingo Wrote:

> inclined towards the HP 215 are:
> 1-1.3-megapixel CCD delivering up to 1,280 x 960-pixel
> resolution images.
> 2-Power by four AA alkaline batteries (or optional AC adapter).
> 3-Software CD containing ArcSoft PhotoImpression, PhotoMontage,
> and camera drivers (for Windows only).
>

I have a Kodak 3200 and have found it to be great. It almost identical to
the 215. 2X digital zoom, 4 AA batteries Alkaline or rechargeable, 1
megapixel, viewfinder and LCD display, High Impact plastic case, Serial
connection, Software, CF memory cards. When I got mine I took over 270
pictures of mixed modes with the included Alkaline. I then took 30 more with
flash and the LCD on in total darkness of my daughters accident before the
battery icon showed power dropping. Preview mode is LCD on all the time and
Quick View mode turns the LCD on for a second to let you see the picture so
you know if it is what you wanted ) Both can be used at the same time. I
have had the camera on for 4-6 hours continually at computer shows using
1600 Ni-MH. And I put 93 low resolution photos on an 8 Meg card. 1 meg
compressed mode the 8 meg held 40 photos, and it 1 meg uncompressed mode it
held 12 photos. All are Jpeg formats.
The company I work Computer Shows for, sold about 800-1000 of them until the
stores started selling them for $179.99 and there is a $30.00 rebate at
Kodak web site. It may not be the prettiest camera but its functional and
nine has survived 3 drops so far with out even a scratch.

Just letting you know how I like my camera and which ever you pick the best
of luck. And I would very much like to know which you get and how you like
it.

John LaMaide

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Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:

> In the meantime I found out that it is not the fault of Lxcic, it is
> the same with Cic100. I was able to send and receive on or two faxes
> in endless tries, but most time the modem is dead.

I guess you use LXCIC in resident mode from your autoexec.bat.
That is ok. If you feel the modem is dead or lost sometimes,
please try LXCIC/DE

This simulates removing and reinserting the card and it should
be new detected (and powered). You may run LXCIC/DE while it is
loaded resident. You may also play with the /R /O /W switches
to reset, poweroff, poweron the card.

Use LXCIC/? to see all switches.

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Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Use LXCIC/? to see all switches.

I forgot to mention, that LXCIC/S always displays the status of
the PCMCIA port. If you see the name of the card, it is
detected and should work. In order to see, if the modem works,
I recommend to use my tiny MINICOM from my homepage. Issue

MINICOM 2

to open it for COM2, which is the PCMCIA port. Then enter AT
If you see OK as answer, the modem is working and Minifax
should also detect it.

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Domingo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello.  Anyone knows any good deals or fire sales
on digital cameras =
lately?  I have been looking at the HP 215 as a possibility.
It's a 1 =
megapixel camera with viewfinder, which takes CF cards, and
sells at my =
local Walmart for $188.  The Polaroid PhotoMax PDC640CF ($139)
and the =
PDC 700 ($179) are also possibilities.  My needs are simple:
35mm type =
of quality and ability to interface with my computers, including
of =
course my hp200lx.   I have seen a number of reasonable looking
cameras =
for well below $100, but they lack a viewfinder, and their only
pc =
interface is a usb cable.  For casual use this might be good
enough but =
ocassionally I'll need to take a lot of pictures (hence the CF
Card), =
and I have found the viewfinder essential for instantly
determining that =
I messed up a picture.  I don't know enough about digital
cameras to =
determine whether other features are at all important.  Any
suggestions =
appreciated <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I bought my first digital camera a few months ago.  It's my
first camera of any kind since about 1960 in fact.  My uses for
it are very casual.  Family pictures, etc.

I bought a Kodak DC280 which at that time was a fairly expensive
2 megapixel camera.  I didn't know what I needed want to use so
I made sure I had plenty of features.  I got a lot more than I
needed and paid a lot more than I would today.

I use the compact flash to move pictures to the computer where I
already had a compact flash reader for my 200lx.  Thats
important.  It also has USB and a serial port but I never use
that.  There's just no need.

I use it on low resolution since I don't print the pictures.  I
just view them on the screen and low resolution is fine.  On the
screen higher resolution means a bigger picture than my screen
and I have no need for that.  I should have bought a 1 megapixel
camera.

It has a viewfinder and an LCD and I love using the LCD instead
of the viewfinder.  I see exactly what my picture will look like
and I can look at it after I take it to check that I like it.  I
wouldn't buy one without an LCD.  I'm not sure I've ever used
the viewfinder.

I've used the zoom a little but it's not something I care about.
I'd do without a zoom to save a few dollars.

It has a feature that lets me use no flash or a daylight flash
or an artificial light flash that makes a big difference in the
color quality of the picture.  I can set this to automatically
switch and it does fine.  I wouldn't give away this feature.

The compact flash card is readable on my computer as a drive,
just like the 200lx flash card is and I consider that an
important feature.  The files are jpg and that works out well.
The camera also lets me determine the amount of compression used
and that's a feature I use but I could live without.

An essential feature to me is that it uses AA batteries.  I
wouldn't buy a camera with a built in battery, or with anything
but AA batteries.  I use NiMH and they last and they're cheap
and they work just fine.

So my guess is that if I were buying a camera today I'd be
looking in the $200-$300 price range and watching for sales and
deals to try to get it for less.  I don't think I'd give up the
features I've listed as useful above to save a few dollars.  Of
course if it was my first camera I wouldn't know those features
or miss them.  When I first decided to buy a digital camera,
before I did any real looking I set a maximum of $250.  But then
I started wondering if I'd find I'd need all those other
features that in fact I never use. :)

I took time before buying to look at real pictures taken with
the various cameras.   I wanted to be fussy about the picture
first.  I found pictures on the web.  I found them in stores.  I
found people with various cameras that would let me see
pictures.  I picked my price range first and then looked for the
camera with the pictures I liked best.

Barry

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Longden Loo wrote:
> I'm not sure what the equivalent Palm offerings are,
> or how they compare in price, can anyone give me
> a quick compare (and maybe opinion)?  And if
> anyone knows of a good sale, I'd like to hear also.

The problem with Handspring is they don't put their roms in
flash and that means no upgrades.  Palm has been making some
major upgrades to their OS and 4.0 is due soon.

Software developers are pretty good about supporting earlier
models but the changes are getting bigger and I won't be
surprised if some of the new stuff won't work on the old visors.

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hi Stefan,

On 16 Jun 2001, at 12:54, Stefan.Peichl@t-online.de wrote:

> Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
>
> > In the meantime I found out that it is not the fault of Lxcic, it is
> > the same with Cic100. I was able to send and receive on or two faxes
> > in endless tries, but most time the modem is dead.
>
> I guess you use LXCIC in resident mode from your autoexec.bat.
> That is ok. If you feel the modem is dead or lost sometimes,
> please try LXCIC/DE

that is right. Lxcic is loaded resident.

>
> This simulates removing and reinserting the card and it should
> be new detected (and powered). You may run LXCIC/DE while it is
> loaded resident. You may also play with the /R /O /W switches
> to reset, poweroff, poweron the card.

I already tried all combinations of the mentioned switches, and
sometimes it works, sometimes not. It has a random pattern,
I did not find out yet what makes the modem sleep (or die) and
resuscitate it again.

> Use LXCIC/? to see all switches.

I know them by heart in the meantime. The progam you created is
excellent, but in this case I am pretty sure that it is the modem
which is not o.k. and Lxcic cannot repair a defect modem. The
irritating thing is that the problem is not permanent but in 80-90%
of my tries.

When I plug in the EXP 56K modem card, it works 100% with all
commands of Lxcic and in datacom.

I did not try your minicom program but it should do the same than
datacom if it is configured correctly.

 servus,
Werner


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        Dr. Werner Furlan ably wrote:
> I know them by heart in the meantime. The progam you created is
> excellent, but in this case I am pretty sure that it is the modem

You sound frustrated.

Maybe it is time to tell yourself "I have a broken modem!" and
stop trying the other 5,000 combinations <G>... The modems
break, you know... Did you write to EXP and have they
responded? That is by far the easiest path.

Experimenting with a broken modem does not teach much, because
you never know if the results you get are "legitimate" or just
the "imagination" of the broken modem.

Anyway, if you cannot get anything done with EXP, I know
someone who has a number of 4MB EXP modems, new in the box.
I'll ask him in the meantime if he sells them.

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hi Laust,

On 16 Jun 2001, at 3:13, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

>
> BTW. as an encoding algorithm, Rot13 encoding is very weak. That's why
> I always use double-Rot13 encoding ;-)
>

this one saved my day ;-)

(its going to be another rainy weekend here)

cheers,
Werner


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Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:58:04 +1200 (NZST)


6 days 06h11m49s ago ...
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:46:15 -0500, Tim wrote:

> Did a quick search of S.U.P.E.R. (and then a quick search
> of my PE help file
> <grin>) to see if this util. existed. Anyone know of a
> DOS version of this?

Tim, I did a quick search too and found this in ROBONEWS.DOC:

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
D2. ROT13
---------

This method of "hiding" game-hints etc used to be common on
Usenet. In fact you will find most News clients still support
ROT13 encoding, but it is seldom seen today.

To do ROT13 encoding with PalEdit:

1. Download tr.exe from simtel, for example, at

ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/simtelnet/msdos/txtutl/tr112.zip

2. Unzip tr112.zip and copy tr.exe to the directory where PE.EXE is

3. Add this entry in the Filter section of PE.CFG

ROT&13=3Dtr "A-Za-z" "N-ZA-Mn-za-m" <%s >SCRATCH

or in case you run out of memory use maxdos like this:

ROT&13=3Dmaxdos d:\dos\command.com /c tr "A-Za-z" "N-ZA-Mn-za-m" <%s =
>SCRATCH

This command (you can activate it using Ctrl-X R 1) will convert
selected text into ROT13 encoded txt.

For example:

remember

is converted to:

erzrzore


D3. FIGlet
----------

There is another way to do ROT13 - there is a ROT13.FLF FIGlet
font file!
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

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I have (had ;-) a XJ2144 Megahertz modem and found at
www.mhz.com the firmware upgrade RD03V.EXE. I knew it was a
risk to do the upgrade on the palmtop, but I took the risk.

Everything worked fine up to erasing the flash, but writing
the new firmware failed with a "timeout error".

Now the modem is completely inoperable and even crashes the
palmtop if it is inserted.

Is there any chance to write the new firmware to the modem?
(this time on a notebook indeed). The upgrade software refuses
the job, because it doesn't find a modem at the port, which is
understandable, because the modem is mousedead.

I don't think, it is worth to send the modem in for a repair.
I'd rather like to open it, if there is no chance to help
myself. I always wanted to see how it looks inside...

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
> I don't think, it is worth to send the modem in for a repair.
> I'd rather like to open it, if there is no chance to help
> myself. I always wanted to see how it looks inside...

Take some pictures if you do open it up.

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Hal, et al;

I used to work for a company that bought and sold a LOT of used
computer equipment - sometimes with an 800% markup (no
kidding)!  They went out of business when Micro$oft sued them
for selling pirated software, after buying from the vendors that
Micro$oft had recommended! Ridiculous!

Anyway, they would have the customer sign a contract that the
items would have only a 90-day warranty, to be honored only via
a store credit for the purchase price, and that there was
absolutely NO service, support or software included - anything
else was charged at our $40/hour bench fee - even for
over-the-phone support.  The customers knew what they were
getting from the beginning and understood that they were on
their own - or they would have to pay more. Most of the
customers knew what they were doing, and getting, and were OK
with that, since they got the item they wanted at a lower price
than they would have otherwise.

If there were ever any objections or complaints, we would
reiterate to them the contents of the contract that they had
signed and agreed to, and offered them a store credit, if
necessary. Most were OK with it, the rest (VERY few) would walk
out angry and come back in a month or two to buy something that
they couldn't find anywere else, or at a price they couldn't
find anywhere else.

Perhaps the way to start would be to post (to the mailing list)
a list of the items you have, and a fair price, plus shipping.
Then the list members can purchase the items, with the
understanding that they are closeout items with ABSOLUTELY no
support, service or warranty. They can try them out, and then do
whatever with them. I would be OK with it and I think that most
other list members are OK with it, too. We can get help and
support from other list members if we need it, otherwise, we
chalk it up to experience.

I think it's worthy of discussion, at least.  And, I, for one,
am anxious to see this list! I'd be like a kid in a candy store!

Regards,
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> I have (had ;-) a XJ2144 Megahertz modem and found at
> www.mhz.com the firmware upgrade RD03V.EXE. I knew it was a
> risk to do the upgrade on the palmtop, but I took the risk.
>
> Everything worked fine up to erasing the flash, but writing
> the new firmware failed with a "timeout error".
>
> Now the modem is completely inoperable and even crashes the
> palmtop if it is inserted.

I think that you canNOT fix it.  I remember years ago when Megahertz was
still in business when I purchased the xjack new.  There was a problem
with the firmware and slight power fluctuations.  I called and asked
about using the palmtop for the upgrade (I had no other pcmcia devices
at that time). They warned me that if the firmware upgrade failed, that
the modem would be dead and I would have to send it to them.  I don't
recall if it could be fixed by them or just would have to be replaced.

Sorry.  Maybe someone has some better news to offer.  But that is what I
recall.

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Hal Goldstein wrote:
>
> <<I have a 96 MB flash card I'd trade
> for a LX docking station if anyone
> is innerested.
>
> yor pal al>>
>
> Hi Pal Al,
>
> Send me your address, and I'll send you a docking station. We will NOT test
> it or warranty it. If you are happy with it, good, then send me the flash
> card. If you it doesn't work or it won't suit your purposes, then throw it
> away. OK?
>
> This brings up a general challenge for us. We have LOTS of used 200LX stuff
> -- EXP modems, software, etc.  However, to test, warranty, support, and
> market it and keep customers happy doesn't seem to be worth the effort.  I
> am open to ideas.
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Hello all,

The best memory testing utility for desktop and server PCs I found
is AlegGR ramtest by Aleksand Grigoriev  at:
<www.aha.ru/~alegr>

It has lots of switches and can be told to look so hard that only the
very best brandname RAM modules will pass without any error
message.

He also has a simple utility to test if the IDE busmastering function
of your Windows PC is enabled (<20% CPU hog) or not (>80%).

The 200LX palmtops, at least those made post-1996 have a built-in
memory check in the Esc-On diagnostic startmenu.

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Hal,
How about a lottery sale: See if we can get enough list members to gamble
say $10. You make worthwhile grab bags of the stuff, and have a draw for
every say $50 or $100 you get in. Send it off, no return address....
Regards,
Michel


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> From: Hal Goldstein mailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM
> Sent: 15 June 2001 5:06
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Used 200LX stuff
>
>
> <<I have a 96 MB flash card I'd trade
> for a LX docking station if anyone
> is innerested.
>
> yor pal al>>
>
> Hi Pal Al,
>
> Send me your address, and I'll send you a docking station. We
> will NOT test
> it or warranty it. If you are happy with it, good, then send
> me the flash
> card. If you it doesn't work or it won't suit your purposes,
> then throw it
> away. OK?
>
> This brings up a general challenge for us. We have LOTS of
> used 200LX stuff
> -- EXP modems, software, etc.  However, to test, warranty,
> support, and
> market it and keep customers happy doesn't seem to be worth
> the effort.  I
> am open to ideas.
>
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I've opted for ATT as my alternate ISP, but now that I have it setup and =
working on my home PC, I'm trying to get it working with wwwlx version 3 =
on my 200lx.  It starts to connect, but then drops the connection.  The =
faqs on dasoft.com mention that there is a file called att.sr that =
contains the password that is needed.  I can't find that file and suspect =
that I am therefore using the wrong password.  In the current version of =
att, is that file now changed?  Anyone have any suggestions?

Using CHAP script and both local and toll numbers

TIA
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Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Jam and other compressors


> RTFM  LOL (see below)

> BTW If you go for a 220MB are you selling the 96? :)

I doubt it.  Thanks for the suggestions.  It's been a while
since I last tried, so I had forgotten what the problems were.
Even with your suggestions, I still get problems.   The drive is
created, files can be copied to it, they work without a hitch,
but the drive cannot be JMAXed.  That utility always quits with
different error numbers (almost never the same one #1, #70,
#239, all having to do with the host drive), and it recommends I
use a utility such as Norton to check the phisical drive.   I
did that before and after, no problems whatsoever (I used
Scandisk).   In the past I ran a DOS version of Norton from the
palmtop, and each time I ran it, it found problems, which it
proceeded to "fix", only to still find problems next time.  The
"fix" invariably lost many files that were working before, so I
stopped using Norton and stuck with Scandisk.   I spent a long
time with this problem before, I don't think I'll spend a long
time this time around unless someone can help me find a cure.
I recall having the same problem with Stacker (the optimizer
would not work), which I tried just to compare, since I really
need the uncompressed volume to be available.

TIA

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Tidalwave Me-386 and Omron Massif.
<http://homepage1.nifty.com/w_jammer/palmtop/palmtop.htm>

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Hello all,

<www2h.biglobe.ne.jp/~hirokazu/mobile.htm>
<www2h.biglobe.ne.jp/~hirokazu/lx_sw.jpg>

BTW, the working japanese-enabled web/text machine translator I found
now is:

<www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html>

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:19:45 -0400
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 06:12:45 -0500
From: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu
To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM
Subject: Re: ATT Acess

Mon, 18 Jun 2001 06:01:03 -0500 (EST)

I just setup ATT/Worldnet on my machines (works pretty good BTW,
recently used in Chicago,Lexington KY...)...Anyway, click on the AT&T
Connection Services ICON on your desktop.

Go to SETTINGS -> Customer Care -> Account Information

The info you seek is there:

"Network ID" (nnnnnnnnn@worldnet.att.net)
"Network Password" (xxxxxxx-xxxxxxx)

Use CHAP Script as you have, and you should be good to go!

HTH

Cheers...AJKind

03h33m04s ago ...
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Larry Castor wrote:

> I've opted for ATT as my alternate ISP, but now that I have it setup
> and working on my home PC, I'm trying to get it working with wwwlx
> version 3 on my 200lx...
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Stefan Peichl wrote:
 > I have (had ;-) a XJ2144 Megahertz modem and found at
> www.mhz.com the firmware upgrade RD03V.EXE. I knew it was a
> risk to do the upgrade on the palmtop, but I took the risk.
> Everything worked fine up to erasing the flash, but writing
> the new firmware failed with a "timeout error".

It's very likely nothing can be done.  This is true with most
devices that use flash roms and allow firmware upgrades.  The
code that starts the device and the code that handles upgrading
is erased during the upgrade and not sufficiently rewritten
before the error.

Upgrading the thing takes quite a lot more power than normal
since it's writing the entire card twice.  It pays to do this
very cautiously.

The HP49 calculator is one of the few devices I know of designed
to recover from this kind of situation.  Their firmware upgrade
code is in a non-writable portion of the Bios.  So if it fails
the calc is useless until you do it successfully.  You can try
as often as you like until it works.  I wish others would do
that.

Barry

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Hi friends,

On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:21:00 -0600, Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM> wrote:

> Then the list members can purchase the items, with the
> understanding that they are closeout items with ABSOLUTELY no
> support, service or warranty. They can try them out, and then do
> whatever with them. I would be OK with it and I think that most
> other list members are OK with it, too. We can get help and
> support from other list members if we need it, otherwise, we
> chalk it up to experience.
>
> I think it's worthy of discussion, at least.  And, I, for one,
> am anxious to see this list! I'd be like a kid in a candy store!

I fully agree with Richard, and I think most list members would.
It doesn't satisfy ANYONE if all these nice used items are lying around
somewhere and no one is able to make use of it (and especially now that
we all know about it! ;-) ).
If you sell these items without any warranty and support, at least SOME
or maybe MOST customers will be satisfied. Even if there are a few who
are angry because the item they bought doesn't work as exspected, you
still have more new SATISFIED customers than ANGRY ones.

That's my opinion - I have no clue about business and economy, but that
is what my naive mind says.

GTX
daniel

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> On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:21:00 -0600, Richard and Patti Smith <seronac@FREEPORT.COM> wrote:
>
> > Then the list members can purchase the items, with the
> > understanding that they are closeout items with ABSOLUTELY no
> > support, service or warranty. They can try them out, and then do
> > whatever with them. I would be OK with it and I think that most
> > other list members are OK with it, too. We can get help and
> > support from other list members if we need it, otherwise, we
> > chalk it up to experience.
> >
> > I think it's worthy of discussion, at least.  And, I, for one,
> > am anxious to see this list! I'd be like a kid in a candy store!

I defeinitly agree that selling these items closeout with no warranty, service,
or support is excellent idea.  My guess is that between all the people on this
list that someone already knows if xxxxxxxx  item will work on the 200lx.

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There is a nice site: map.findu.com disigned for hams.
Obviously APRS data is transfered (here in Germany 144.8 MHz)
to that site and shown on 3 maps.
Try map.findu.com/dl1er-9 to see where I am at present time
(provided my gps is switched on).
Is there a chance to get these maps on the LX200 like the
maps of LXBlast?
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Hal and friends,
I too think that it would be great if you posted a list of used LX stuff
with
suggested prices to the list.  I've bought one of everything in your current
catalog (I think).  To find new toys, I already planned on having to take
the
risks of buying used.
Of course I will need to change my subscription from digest to individual
emails
so that I might have a chance of getting the "good stuff".
Later,
bob
PS - I've noticed that another Bob is using the lower case form lately -
identity crisis is imminent!

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Hi HPLXers
Pardon my ignorance but I didn't know that there was a
docking station for a HP200LX.  If one exists, what does
it do and what are they worth?
TIA
Tony

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Date:         Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:07:47 -0500
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Mmmmmmmmmmm. Toys! "Me want...."

Seriously..., if there were a Thaddeus "pile" that you were willing to let
us "pick through," (online) it would be fun.

You and the entire crew at Thaddeus have always been *SO* helpful to us that
I suspect the largest danger is that you might feel the desire to replace
stuff that we "test" and find defective, at your own cost......... What
about selling the stuff at rock bottom, even letting us fund the shipping
(through our own FEDEX accounts, etc., if we have them) and, if we find
something "broken beyond all belief" you give us a percentage of what we
paid for the broken item toward new/refurbished/"tested-used" equipment? You
pick the percentage....... I'm not experienced enough w/ P&L to take a stab
at a number......

Now, about giving us access to that list of "toys"......... <grin>.

Hope this idea helps.

--tim

PS. You really have some experimental "docking stations" handy? THAT could
be fun, in and of itself...... Any 96 MB, backlight installed, DS, 200LXs in
the pile <grin>.

PPS. Any thoughts about starting up an LX version of eBay for us? I mean,
I've got some HPLX things I may want to part with some day ... why give eBay
the "commission," when I can give it to Thaddeus?

----------------
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I wrote :
>
> > My approach is to create a multiboot environment and go from there. =
My
> > home setup is a quadrupple boot into either
> > - Windows 2000
> > - Win ME
> > - DOS 6.2
> > - Linux Debian 2.2
> >
> > I have not done it yet but I will try to run WWW/LX after booting =
into
> > pure DOS.
>
> Tried it today without success. The external modem is on COM3 which is
> a USB port. Maybe that's why WWW/LX does not detect a modem.

I have bought a standard US Robotics external modem now which connects
to COM1. It worked right away with WWW/LX in pure DOS.

> Altogether the behavior of the desktop is somewhat strange. In pure DOS
> CPACK works - but only sometimes. ZIP works also - but only sometimes.
> I have not found a pattern of this strange behavior. If I find
> something I will report here.

As it looks it Was a faulty serial cable which I purchased together with
my backup palmtop. CPACK and ZIP work now.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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hi Uli,

on 18 Jun 2001, at 15:58 Uli Allen wrote about:
LXBlast + APRS ?

> There is a nice site: map.findu.com disigned for hams.
> Obviously APRS data is transfered (here in Germany 144.8 MHz)
> to that site and shown on 3 maps.
> Try map.findu.com/dl1er-9 to see where I am at present time
> (provided my gps is switched on).
> Is there a chance to get these maps on the LX200 like the
> maps of LXBlast?
> Uli DL1ER
>
I use Opera as a browser, you can right-click the map and save it. It is a
gif. - image.

where is Werner OE9FWV?
http://map.findu.com/oe9fwv


73!
Werner
OE9FWV



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Date:         Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:21:51 +0200
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A few weeks ago I bought an used 64Mb Samsung Compact Flash.

I works flawlessly, except for a big problem : With the same alkalines
batteries I used with my old Sandisk CF (which ran about 30-35 hours),
I have now only 10-15 hours of usage... :-(

Does anybody has experienced this problem and corrected it ?


If I remember, that could be due to two causes :
- Wrong wiring of one pin of the card.
- Wrong value of the time to entering in sleep-mode.

If I don't think I can do anything for the first cause, I seem to
remember this could be corrected by software, by editing the CIS portio=
n
of the card. Do anybody know about such utility which could work on the=

palmtop ?


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Date:         Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:22:04 -0400
Reply-To:     Ulrich Allen <Ulrich.Allen@GMX.DE>
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Thanks, Werner,
you really use OPERA on the HPLX?
I didn't think about that before.
Now I'll give it a try.
Findu is really great, isn't it?
Now I know that you live 8.4 miles northeast of vaduz hi.
Thanks for your hint.
Vy 73 Uli
p.s. I am using hp200lx and th-d7e (on packet)

> hi Uli,
>
> on 18 Jun 2001, at 15:58 Uli Allen wrote about:
> LXBlast + APRS ?
>
> > There is a nice site: map.findu.com disigned for hams.
> > Obviously APRS data is transfered (here in Germany 144.8 MHz)
> > to that site and shown on 3 maps.
> > Try map.findu.com/dl1er-9 to see where I am at present time
> > (provided my gps is switched on).
> > Is there a chance to get these maps on the LX200 like the
> > maps of LXBlast?
> > Uli DL1ER
> >
> I use Opera as a browser, you can right-click the map and save it. It =
is a
> gif. - image.
>
> where is Werner OE9FWV?
> http://map.findu.com/oe9fwv
>
> 73!
> Werner
> OE9FWV
>
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Thanks everyone for all the great suggestions about digital cameras.   =
Just one more question on this subject: Am I correct in understanding =
that only the cheapest cameras ($100 and under) can double as web cams? =
This is not the same as capturing video, which only the more expensive =
cameras can do (above $300 or $400).  I ask because I could use that =
feature (for teleconferencing and such).

TIA

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Date:         Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:47:15 +0000
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All,

Since I'm sure this has been discussed, I ask your patience.  I was gone for a while (silly me, I thought maybe "new" technology might be better.  Boy was I wrong!) I use WWWLX w/ my 200LX and frankly yet don't see and end to doing so in spite of curren
t technology.  Some questions...

1. I should set my MEMO margins to WHAT right margin for optimal word wrapping?

2. Is there a notation in a WWWLX .cfg for the word wrap?

3. Anybody have success w/  COMPACT FLASH CARDS w/ the PCMCIA adapters?  Do you need a driver on config.sys to do so?

4. Anybody have success w/  SMART MEDIA FLASH CARDS w/ the PCMCIA adapters?  Do you need a driver on config.sys to do so?

TIA!

Respectfully,

David W. Holt, CCT
Sr Circulation Technologist
AmSECT President-Elect
office: 614-292-7261
pager:  614-646-5702
FAX:    614-292-0210
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:02:20 -0400
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How about this:

Publish the inventory to this List with *two* prices shown for each item.
The first price is a higher "checked out and sold with all the usual
guarantees" price. The second price is a lower "buy it at your own risk"
price. That way, the buyer explicitly accepts the burden if they choose the
lower price.

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Date:         Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:43:16 -0700
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> 3. Anybody have success w/  COMPACT FLASH CARDS w/ the PCMCIA adapters?
Do you
> need a driver on config.sys to do so?

Probably most of us use CF now, given the drop in prices.  No drivers are
needed, and there are the rare CF cards that give the 200LX problems, but
these may be idiosyncratic to a particular card and not the brand.

> 4. Anybody have success w/  SMART MEDIA FLASH CARDS w/ the PCMCIA
adapters?  Do
> you need a driver on config.sys to do so?

I've read of several members who've done this, and I don't recall their
mention of using a driver.  I was going to look into this myself as a means
of moving data around (smart media w/PCMCIA for the 200LX and notebook
computers, and w/floppy adapter for desktops).

- Longden

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Longden Loo wrote:

> I've read of several members who've done this, and I don't recall their
> mention of using a driver.  I was going to look into this myself as a means
> of moving data around (smart media w/PCMCIA for the 200LX and notebook
> computers, and w/floppy adapter for desktops).
>
> - Longden
>
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Yes, I used to use a smart media adapter in my HP200 before I got
rid of all my smart media stuff. It worked fine, just like a
flash card, and you don't need any drivers. The speed was
comparable. The only thing that you really have to worry about is
that not all smart media adapters will read the larger smart
media cards if you have a big card. Bryan

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Tamas Fehar wrote:
> He also has a simple utility to test if the IDE busmastering
function
> of your Windows PC is enabled (<20% CPU hog) or not (>80%).

So what do you do if you get CPU loads in the high 90% range?
How do you put drives in DMA mode?  That's a new one to me.  And
what is PIO mode?  Polled IO?

I looked in my setup and I found the setting for DMA/PIO and the
options are AUTO which is where it's set now and a few numbers
such as 0/0, 0/1, 0/2, etc.  How do you know what to change it
to?  Is changing it a problem?

I'm a programmer.  I'm over my head in this.

I have a P3 450 mhz and what is supposed to be 2 very fast 20
gig drives (at least they were 2 years ago and the system
information benchmarks show them to be) and what is supposed to
be the top of the line Asus motherboard.  I have 256 meg ram.
I'm using Win98 SE.

Barry

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Has anyone tried using a wireless lan card in a 200 lx?

Regards,
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Feher Tamas wrote:

> <www2h.biglobe.ne.jp/~hirokazu/mobile.htm>
> <www2h.biglobe.ne.jp/~hirokazu/lx_sw.jpg>

Didn't David Sargeant put such a switch into one of his LXes at one time?


bye,

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Feher Tamas wrote:
>
> > <www2h.biglobe.ne.jp/~hirokazu/mobile.htm>
> > <www2h.biglobe.ne.jp/~hirokazu/lx_sw.jpg>
>
> Didn't David Sargeant put such a switch into one of his LXes at one time?

Yes, two or three years ago, but just a plain switch with a 2x crystal and
a normal crystal, with no support circuitry to make it actually function
properly.  It did work that way, however ... though about half the time it
would blank the screen and the machine would require a ctrl-lshift-on to
recover, and the motherboard ended up completely destroyed (though this
may have had more to do with my awful Radio Shack soldering iron than with
the crystal-switching -- it was most likely just heat damage to the
processor).  I assume that, with the professional-looking installation of
the switch in that picture, the person who installed that switch took the
necessary steps to make it work right.

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First, let me introduce myself to the list.  My name is Shane Thoms
and I am the IS Manager for our company.  I just "found" a 200LX in
a box that was suppose to be trashed.  Man, this thing is cool.  Like
a blast from the past. (286-10MHz, DOs 3.3 and 1200baud modem = first
machine)

Getting to the original question, we are installing 802.11b in certain areas

and I must say I have been very impressed. The only downfall (and which
pertains here)
is that both Netgear and Linksys do NOT make DOS drivers.

If anyone gets a wireless PCMCIA card to connect under DOS, please email me.
:-)

Shane

>Has anyone tried using a wireless lan card in a 200 lx?
>
>Regards,
>Timothy P. Kelley
>GIS - eSolutions (@ctive Knowledge)
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        David Holt ably wrote:

> 1. I should set my MEMO margins to WHAT right margin for optimal word =
wrapping?

Memo does not wrap lines, only _shows_ them that way on the
screen. When you send an email written in memo, the paragraphs
come out like one big mother of all lines. I left your own
message unformatted, so you can see. It is possible that the
program you _view_ this reply may wrap the line for you and it
will appear within some margins, but on my screen, you
paragraphs are one big long lines, one line per paragraph.

The setting you talk about is meaningless to your
correspondents - it will only affect what YOU see on the
screen.

To break your lines into something others can read without
using a telescope to see the right part of the lines (<g>
These are Mark Twain's images...) You chould manually set the
middle font (64 chars per line) and when you reach the end of
a line in memo, press the Enter button to insert a CRLF
character.

Most people tend to use 64 or higher margin, so they will be
able to read your message with lines broken more or less at
that margin.

But those of us who read in the 40 char font will probably see
a line within margins, then a short one (64 - 40), then a
"normal 64 char line, then a short one etc.

I have not seen a program for the palmtop yet that is smart enough to =
figure
out how to rebuild a paragraph within margins that _I_ use.
I.e. to pick up a 64 char margined paragraph and reformat it
to say 40 width, or 80 width.

> 2. Is there a notation in a WWWLX .cfg for the word wrap?

In PE there is. WWW/LX (really Post/LX) is not involved in editing the =
message,
it uses other programs to do the job (such as Memo, or PE)

> 3. Anybody have success w/  COMPACT FLASH CARDS w/ the PCMCIA adapters? =
 Do you need a driver on config.sys to do so?

The PCMCIA adapter is simply a PHYSICAL "translation" (a
cradle) from one size to another. The software does not "see"
tha adapter. I have used these many times, and many types of
adapters.

> 4. Anybody have success w/  SMART MEDIA FLASH CARDS w/ the PCMCIA =
adapters?  Do you need a driver on config.sys to do so?

I think you need no drivers for these. Adapter from SMM to
PCMCIA exist but I think they are expensive.

   Joe S.


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        Bryan Biggers ably wrote:
> Yes, I used to use a smart media adapter in my HP200 before I got

   ...

> comparable. The only thing that you really have to worry about is
> that not all smart media adapters will read the larger smart
> media cards if you have a big card. Bryan

These were defective adapters, caused by the lack of clear
standards, and trying to get a slightly cheaper adapter built.
They save a penny or two on an item that costs a LOT.


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Date:         Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:10:39 +0000
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I just won my 1500th (of 1501) FreeCell game.

Thanks Curtis, for a great way to waste time!  :-)

Cheers... Russ

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A few days ago I posted that I know where brand new EXP cards
can be found. These are 4MB memory with a 14,400 Modem / Fax
cards. They are new in the box with a phone line with a dongle
connector. Also manual and the warranty and registration card.
Totally unused.

The person who owns them says to go ahead and tell: It is Avi
Meshar sponsor@ftel.net. He is interested in selling these to
serious buyers. These are not used cards, or some second rate
discards as sold por pennies on EBay. So if you are
interested, please write directly to Avi at sponsor@ftel.net.
He says - please offer a serious price and you have it. (I
personally bought one of them too, as back up. Works great.)

For an additional $15.00 he will sell another phone line with
a dongle as a back up.

Buyer pays shipping and insurance, money orders only.

I have NOTHING to do with the sale and will not respond to
questions about it, sorry. I just carry a message for a
friend.

He also commented that he has a lot of other items for sale,
and was thinking about eBaying them, but if there is interest
here he'll go for sales here. I asked for a list of items.

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I forgot to mention: The EXP card has built in 4MB and the
MiniFax software for receiving and sending fax. It was
specifically designed and produced for the 100/200LX and uses
extremely low power. I have used it on batteries alone to do
email sessions. I think it is something like 130mAh or 135mAh
when ON MODEM, otherwise something like 15mAh or 25mAh for the
memory part alone. The card switches its modem off
automatically after 10 seconds of inactivity.

Sorry for omitting this info in my prior email.

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I would like to add some features to my LX-MapBlast page but my
trig skills are just too rusty. I have an equation for the
length of an arc in radians which uses the arctangent funtion. I
know the arc length and am trying to rearrange the equation to
solve in terms of latititude and longitude of two points.
Actually I am trying to solve it for two cases, where the
latitudes are the same, or where the longitudes are the same.

http://www.technoir.nu/equation.gif may explain it better.

If anyone would care to take a look and let me know if they can
solve it I would greatly appreciate it.

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Plug It In and It Works
A bigger avenue than running "HisWord" on the LX is "Give Me That Online
Religion", by Brenda Brasher (Jossey-Bass/Wiley, $24.95). It is a good romp
through the new world of cyber-spirituality. Global prayer-chains, e-prayer
wheels, cybercast seders and neo-pagan cyber-rituals are all practiced from
home, finally making Martin Luther's proclamation of "every man his own
priest" a virtual reality. The book's Web-like design and typography make it
fun to surf. Even mainstream religions have gone online, offering adherents
and potential converts a smorgasbord of doctrines to download (except
Scientology, whose lawyers pounced like a Torquemada on an ex-member who was
posting the church's religious documents online).
Much of this book will leave you LOL and ROTFL (that's computer-ese for
laughing out loud and rolling on the floor laughing), my favorite example
being Brasher's discussion of the more than 800,000 web "shrines" devoted to
Lady Diana and other celebrities. "Scanning fan sites, it is easy to believe
that the spiritual discipline of imitato Christus has been replaced by
imitato Keanu Reeves." For those who do not wish to risk choosing the wrong
God to achieve immortality, read about the transhumanists, who believe that
some day we will be able to download our minds from our protein brains,
which survive only about a century, to silicon-chip brains that can last
hundreds of centuries, by which time they will be downloadable into
something more permanent still, quite literally ad infinitum. Heady stuff
for us finite beings to contemplate.
Natalia (still here :))

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 Can anyone advise me how to set up PalEdit (PE) so that a scrollable list
of files on the HP200 can be displayed,
 then the required one selected? - (I don't want to see just a list of  the
last files edited.)

I believe this may be possible using the "Pick" program, but I have not
been able to make it work in conjunction with PE.

TIA

Craig Honey

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AJKind wrote,

>> I just setup ATT/Worldnet on my machines (works pretty good BTW, =
recently used in Chicago,Lexington KY...)...Anyway, click on the AT&T =
Connection Services ICON on your desktop.
 Go to SETTINGS -> Customer Care -> Account Information
 The info you seek is there:<<

Thanks, I've got it working now. Don't know what I was doing wrong at =
home, but I'm in Tucson now and the 800 number is working fine.   Thanks =
again.

Larry

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Subject:      FLUFF: download our minds LOL and ROTFL

I always enjoy Nathalie's posts I was on the verge of leaving the
group, but I think I'll hang on for them :)  Wasn't Martin Luther _
complaining_ however that "everyone could be their own Pope" (ie
interpret the Bible according to their own end) - ironic, since in his
own translation of the Bible into German added the word "alone" to one
of Paul's letters ("we are justified by faith _alone_ - the word isn't
their in the greek).  No flames to the group please, but I'll happily
discuss in a rational way by email.

Stuart
srtgray@clara.co.uk

> Date:    Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:51:55 +0200
> From:    Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
> Subject: FLUFF: download our minds LOL and ROTFL
>
> Plug It In and It Works
> A bigger avenue than running "HisWord" on the LX is "Give Me That
Online
> Religion", by Brenda Brasher (Jossey-Bass/Wiley, $24.95). It is a
good romp
> through the new world of cyber-spirituality. Global prayer-chains, e-
prayer
> wheels, cybercast seders and neo-pagan cyber-rituals are all
practiced from
> home, finally making Martin Luther's proclamation of "every man his
own
> priest" a virtual reality. The book's Web-like design and typography
make it
> fun to surf. Even mainstream religions have gone online, offering
adherents
> and potential converts a smorgasbord of doctrines to download (except

> Scientology, whose lawyers pounced like a Torquemada on an ex-member
who was
> posting the church's religious documents online).
> Much of this book will leave you LOL and ROTFL (that's computer-ese
for
> laughing out loud and rolling on the floor laughing), my favorite
example
> being Brasher's discussion of the more than 800,000 web "shrines"
devoted to
> Lady Diana and other celebrities. "Scanning fan sites, it is easy to
believe
> that the spiritual discipline of imitato Christus has been replaced
by
> imitato Keanu Reeves." For those who do not wish to risk choosing the
wrong
> God to achieve immortality, read about the transhumanists, who
believe that
> some day we will be able to download our minds from our protein
brains,
> which survive only about a century, to silicon-chip brains that can
last
> hundreds of centuries, by which time they will be downloadable into
> something more permanent still, quite literally ad infinitum. Heady
stuff
> for us finite beings to contemplate.
> Natalia (still here :))
>
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>
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Try adding the following line to your pe.cfg.
Example:

Chooser=a:\pe\pick.exe

HTH
Qman...

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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:58 PM
Subject: PalEdit


> Can anyone advise me how to set up PalEdit (PE) so that a scrollable list
> of files on the HP200 can be displayed,
>  then the required one selected? - (I don't want to see just a list of
the
> last files edited.)
>
> I believe this may be possible using the "Pick" program, but I have not
> been able to make it work in conjunction with PE.
>
> TIA
>
> Craig Honey
>
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Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:58:43 +1200 (NZST)

12h25m54s ago ...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:32:49 -0700, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> Actually I am trying to solve it for two cases, where the
> latitudes are the same, or where the longitudes are
> the same.

Mike - if longitudes are the same then the latitude difference
is the same as the arc-length. lat2-lat1=3Dd

For the same latitudes a factor of cos(lat) comes in and the
relation is sin(d/2)=3Dcos(lat)*sin((lon2-lon1)/2). For lat=3D0 the
longitude difference is the arc length. Otherwise the formula
is something like

lon2-lon1 =3D 2*arcsin( sin(d/2)/cos(lat) )

I could be wrong of course<G>

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Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:12:02 +1200 (NZST)

07h13m53s ago ...
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:58:09 +1200 (NZT), Michelle Honey
wrote:

> I believe this may be possible using the "Pick" program,

Craig,

Yup, in the PE.CFG file, as used by PalEdit, under the File
section, add in Chooser=3DPICK.EXE like so:

File
Chooser=3DPICK.EXE

save your PE.CFG, and then re-start PalEdit.

To open a new file press F9 (Open) and then press ENTER and
PICK.EXE should display.

If PICK.EXE is not in a directory that is in your DOS PATH then
put in it's path in the Chooser=3D line.

Good luck.

Tony, from NZ too

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David Sargeant wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> > Didn't David Sargeant put such a switch into one of his LXes at one time?

> Yes, two or three years ago, but just a plain switch with a 2x crystal and
> a normal crystal, with no support circuitry to make it actually function
> properly.  It did work that way, however ... though about half the time it
> would blank the screen and the machine would require a ctrl-lshift-on to
> recover, and

David,

   Welcome back.  I had/have a Zenith Z-100 with a crystal
upgrade to speed it up, and it worked well with a switch on
the back.  The circuit board wouldn't fit in a 200LX though.
A gate and a replacement oscillator and some sockets I think.
Given the surface mount components now available you should
be able to make one that would fit though.  Little point on
the Z-100 except for geekiness as it was 8 to 10 MHz and there
was no need for the 8 MHz mode.

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Date:         Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:48:32 -0400
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Mike Kopplin wrote:

> I
> know the arc length and am trying to rearrange the equation to
> solve in terms of latititude and longitude of two points.
> Actually I am trying to solve it for two cases, where the
> latitudes are the same, or where the longitudes are the same.

Mike;

   By inspection, if the longitudes are the same, then
d = Lat1 - Lat2.  (Assuming a spherical earth, and so
forth.)  So, Lat2 = Lat1 - d .

   Using the CRC Handbook, Mensuration Formulae for circles,
and fooling around, gives the following when the latitudes
are the same.

Theta's are sorta longitude, Phi's sorta latitude

   Great circle distance formulas

c = 2R sin (Theta/2)   Here Theta is total angle/arc length.
Theta = s, R = 1
c = 2 sin(s/2)

   Translate to proper latitude..

R' = cos(phi)
c = 2R' sin(Theta'/2)
Theta' = 2 asin( c/2R' )    Here Theta' is an angle corresponding
                            to longitude
Lon2 = Lon1 +/- Theta'

   Amusing little problem.  What are you up to,
and how the heck do you know the arc length?

Steve

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Date:         Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:06:39 -0400
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        Michelle Honey ably wrote:
>  Can anyone advise me how to set up PalEdit (PE) so that a scrollable =
list
> of files on the HP200 can be displayed,
>  then the required one selected? - (I don't want to see just a list of =
 the
> last files edited.)
>
> I believe this may be possible using the "Pick" program, but I have not
> been able to make it work in conjunction with PE.

You can open in PE as many files as you want. I believe memory
and rive is the only constraint. If you have a directory with
many files of one type, try this in PE: Menu File Open and
enter *.TXT - all the files with TXT extension will be opened.
Use F7 to rotate among them, or Menu View Open to show a list
of open files (you can select with the cursor), or
CTRL-X-Ctrl-B to do the same without the menu.

You may wish to avail yourself to the Help within PE, which is
where I got all this info. i usually use F7 when I have
several open files, but occasionally (after pressing F1 and
searching for it) I use CTRL-X-Ctrl-B. Even more rarely do I
remember the Menu View Open <g>...

Now there is a slightly confusing phrase in your first
paragraph: "so that a scrollable list of files on the HP200
can be displayed,"

I think I got it right above, but maybe you mean: I just want
to do a dir command so I can scroll and choose whech to open.
I do not know of anything quite like this, but your hint re
Pick.exe is meaningful. Pick displays a scrollable file list
like Memo does.

You need to put Pick.exe in the same directory as PE.EXE, and
in PE.CFG add this line:

; set this to the program that should be started to pick a file
Chooser=3DX:\Y\pick.exe

Where X is the drive and Y is the path where PICK.EXE is
located.

When you open a file in PE, it presents a one line prompt
asking for the file to use. Just leave it empty and PRESS
ENTER. This will kick in PICK.EXE. If you set it up right and
have provided sufficient memory for PE, PICK will bring up a
menu almost identical to Memo. You know how to navigate from
there - check on Memo.

FYI: There is an easier way!

In that one line prompt, type say:

c:\_    and press Tab. You will see it complete _dat (or any
other file/directory name you may have in C:\ that begins with
_. You can navigate quickly to any subdirectory by just typing
the first letter of its name, and repeated TAB until the name
appears. Then a \ and another first letter of a filename, or
even *.txt and a tab. It will present the first item matching
the pattern, and repeated TABs will scroll through the list.

E.G.

Menu File Open then c:\d and a tab yields in my machine

c:\data     another Tab yields
C:\data1    another tab yields
c:\domain   and I type \ then a tab which yields
c:\domain\bolex   another tab yields
c:\domain\piru    another tab yields
c:\domain\zorko   and I type a \ and  *.inv  which yields
c:\domain\zorko\040101.inv   a tab yields
c:\domain\zorko\050101.inv   a tab yields
c:\domain\zorko\060101.inv   and enter opens that file for
editing.

So all I pressed is Menu F o c:\d tab tab tab \ tab tab \ *.inv
tab tab enter - all of 22 keypresses to get to the right file.
This may be less work then PICK.EXE, but less intuitive, too.

Good luck.

   Joe S.


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Date:         Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:09:44 +0200
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Hi David and Joe,

On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:49:21 -0400, "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> I have not seen a program for the palmtop yet that is smart enough to figure
> out how to rebuild a paragraph within margins that _I_ use.
> I.e. to pick up a 64 char margined paragraph and reformat it
> to say 40 width, or 80 width.

Post/LX does this with the auto-format option.
If that is switched on, Post/Lx tries to reformat the message so that
it fits your own font size setting.


> The PCMCIA adapter is simply a PHYSICAL "translation" (a
> cradle) from one size to another. The software does not "see"
> tha adapter. I have used these many times, and many types of
> adapters.

I have also used several combinations of CF cards and adapters and they
all worked so far.
The most recommendable CF card brand is SanDisk. No problems at all,
not power hungry and fast.

> I think you need no drivers for these. Adapter from SMM to
> PCMCIA exist but I think they are expensive.

Yes, they are (although I don'T know why. Isn't it also only a physical
pin remapping? Aren't smart media cards also ATA compatible?).
I see them on ebay Germany for about 40-50 US$ (compared to CF-PCMCIA
adapters, which cost only 10-15 US$).

GTX
daniel

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> > I think you need no drivers for these. Adapter from SMM to
> > PCMCIA exist but I think they are expensive.
>
> Yes, they are (although I don'T know why. Isn't it also only a
> physical pin remapping? Aren't smart media cards also ATA
> compatible?). I see them on ebay Germany for about 40-50 US$ (compared
> to CF-PCMCIA adapters, which cost only 10-15 US$).

I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that SmartMedia cards have
no ATA controller on board, and thus the controller has to be built into
the reader (which is the adapter itself, in this case) and that's why the
adapters for SmartMedia are more expensive than the CompactFlash adapters.

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Date:         Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:27:13 -0500
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I really appreciate everyone's private and public feedback about our used
200LX stuff.

It looks like we will end up going through what we have and offer it for
sale, probably on our web site.

On another matter, we just bought a number of 1000CX's. Also, we still have
a very few new, "late model", in-the-box HP 200LX's.

Here is the pricing:


The following are prices for the new HP 1000CXs and 200LXs we have in stock:

New 2MB HP 1000CX with manual                   $500
New 2MB HP 1000CX DS with manual                        $550
New 6MB HP 1000CX DS with manual                        $650
New 8MB HP 1000CX DS with manual                        $700
New 32MB HP 1000CX DS with manual                       $900
New 64MB HP 1000CX DS with manual                       $1175

New 4MB HP 200LX with manuals                   $700
New 4MB HP 200LX DS with manuals                        $750
New 6MB HP 200LX DS with manuals                        $800
New 8MB HP 200LX DS with manuals                        $850
New 32MB HP 200LX DS with manuals                       $1050
New 64MB HP 200LX DS with manuals                       $1325

As mentioned, we are just about sold out of the HP 200LXs.

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Date:         Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:00:16 -0400
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        Daniel Hertrich ably wrote:
> Hi David and Joe,
>
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:49:21 -0400, "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM> =
wrote:
>
> > I have not seen a program for the palmtop yet that is smart enough to =
figure
> > out how to rebuild a paragraph within margins that _I_ use.
> > I.e. to pick up a 64 char margined paragraph and reformat it
> > to say 40 width, or 80 width.
>
> Post/LX does this with the auto-format option.
> If that is switched on, Post/Lx tries to reformat the message so that
> it fits your own font size setting.

But it still cannot reflow things that came from another place
in a chopped up way. I regularly receive email with long
lines, and/or with a long line followed by a shorty, then a
long line, followed a shorty.

When I inquird about it, developer (Andreas Garzotto)
basically said that it is not up to Post/LX to reflow what
_other_ people quote, only what it can reflow that is in a
reformattable shape. IOW, what was already in quoted form when
arriving in my mail box will be left so. (Reasonable enough.)

> I have also used several combinations of CF cards and adapters and they
> all worked so far.
> The most recommendable CF card brand is SanDisk. No problems at all,
> not power hungry and fast.

I have used others with better results than Sandisk. In some
applications Sandisk are fine, others not so hot.

> > I think you need no drivers for these. Adapter from SMM to
> > PCMCIA exist but I think they are expensive.
>
> Yes, they are (although I don'T know why. Isn't it also only a physical
> pin remapping? Aren't smart media cards also ATA compatible?).

Because there is small demand for it, and few manufacturers.
Somewhat like orphan drugs <g>... The other reason is that
these interfaces need the ATA engine, which lacking on the SMM
card itself (at least I believe this is so.)

   Joe S.


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Date:         Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:55:01 -0500
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For got to mention to email wayne@thaddeus.com if interested in any of the
products.

<<The following are prices for the new HP 1000CXs and 200LXs we have in
stock:

New 2MB HP 1000CX with manual                   $500
New 2MB HP 1000CX DS with manual                        $550
New 6MB HP 1000CX DS with manual                        $650
New 8MB HP 1000CX DS with manual                        $700
New 32MB HP 1000CX DS with manual                       $900
New 64MB HP 1000CX DS with manual                       $1175

New 4MB HP 200LX with manuals                   $700
New 4MB HP 200LX DS with manuals                        $750
New 6MB HP 200LX DS with manuals                        $800
New 8MB HP 200LX DS with manuals                        $850
New 32MB HP 200LX DS with manuals                       $1050
New 64MB HP 200LX DS with manuals                       $1325

As mentioned, we are just about sold out of the HP 200LXs.

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:10:52 +1200
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Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:31:42 +1200 (NZST)

Mike, The formula below must assume the arc is along a great
circle between the 2 points. If you travel on a line of
*constant* latitude (which is not the shortest way) then the
arc length 'd' is just 'cos(lat)*(lon2 - lon1)'.  This might
have been what you were after (it gets rid of the 'sin'
stuff).

The top formula in your 'equation.gif' simplifies to

sinsq(d/2)=3Dsinsq((lat2-lat1)/2)
           +cos(lat1)*cos(lat2)
           +sinsq((lon2-lon1)/2)

where 'sinsq(x)' is (sin(x))2

The '/2' can be removed, taking us closer to how the formula
was derived, as the angle subtended, at the centre of the Great
Circle passing through both points, by those points.

as 1-cos(x)=3D2*sinsq(x/2) we get:

cos(d)=3Dcos(lat2-lat1)
      - cos(lat1)*cos(lat2)*(1-cos(lon2-lon1))

For lon1=3Dlon2 we have cos(lon2-lon1)=3Dcos(0)=3D1 and
d=3Dlat2-lat1, so lat2=3Dlat1+d

For lat1=3Dlat2, the solution is tidier with the sines, but the
'cos(lat1)*cos(lat1)*(1-cos(lon2-lon1))' expression comes from
a cosine rule application determining the length of the
straight line (thru the earth) between the points, which
enables the "d" to be determined, again by the cosine rule.

lon2=3Dlon1 + 2*arcsin( sin(d/2)/cos(lat) )

-is the simplest solution I think, for lat1=3Dlat2=3Dlat

Cheers, Tony

9h23m27s ago ...
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:08:15 +1200 (NZST), Tony Hutchins
wrote:

> For the same latitudes a factor of cos(lat) comes in and
> the relation is sin(d/2)=3Dcos(lat)*sin((lon2-lon1)/2). For
> lat=3D0 the longitude difference is the arc length. Otherwise
> the formula is something like
>
> lon2-lon1 =3D 2*arcsin( sin(d/2)/cos(lat) )

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My Cursor Up key wished to be pressed hard for months already,
and lately the ESC key became sick too. It was obviously not
the known problem solved by pressing the palmtop in the lower
right corner. My keys had lost good contact.

Today I decided to do the operation at the open heart. I left
the backup battery in my 64MB techram while opening the case.
As soon as I removed the mainboard, I connected it to the
adapter. Now I had all the time to take the keyboard apart.

As Daniel told me, I cleaned all key contacts with a cotton
swab soaked in contact spray. I cleaned both sides, the plasic
foil with the "bubbles" and the silver foil. On the bubble side
one could see the impressions from the silver side. I cleanded
until these impressions faded away. On the silver foil I
cleaned the black parallel strips. The swab became very black,
but indeed it didn't take off the whole thing.

I put everything together again and now my keyboard is like
new. All keys react immediately and no more strange sounds from
keys which had beer contact ;-)...

It took me 3 hours altogether. Success after my XJack upgrade
disaster.

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Would like to see compiled list of sites relating to HPLX, or favorites, as
well as tools available for learning (of) the most useful mobile applications.
Thank you,
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:22:54 +0200
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Hello all,

The german Yellow Computing firm sells TransFile Win200 version 1.10
for 69DM+shipping. They claim it fixes the "magic byte-sequence" data
transfer problem of v1.03.

I wonder if we are all entitled to use v1.10 for free, because HP
licenced Transfile v1.03 and offers it for free download to all 200LX
owners. Now, Win200 v1.03 is severely nonfunctional and software
vendors are legally obliged to fix software glicthes.

Do you think I should write H-P asking them to grab TransFile v1.10
and offer it for download instead of v1.03? I think H-P could easily
defend itself against Yellow Computing if needed, as the germans
shipped critically non-functional software to H-P, causing bad
publicity and thus material and non-material losses to H-P.

Well, I will never give such a big heap of money to yellow. In fact I
will never give them a penny for any bugfix. Great shame they try such
dirty tricks; even M$ fixes things for free! I hope they soon go out
of business.

Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:41:28 -0500
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> But it still cannot reflow things that came from another place
> in a chopped up way. I regularly receive email with long
> lines, and/or with a long line followed by a shorty, then a
> long line, followed a shorty.
>
> When I inquird about it, developer (Andreas Garzotto)
> basically said that it is not up to Post/LX to reflow what
> _other_ people quote, only what it can reflow that is in a
> reformattable shape. IOW, what was already in quoted form when
> arriving in my mail box will be left so. (Reasonable enough.)

When I encounter an e-mail like this that really bothers me, and
I am replying to it and/or need to print it out for reference, I
usually clean it up in vi with nasty combinations of cryptic ex-mode
commands (the sed-like ones).  One common situation, re-formatting
paragraphs that are quoted one level deep:

:.,$s/> //

Then I reformat the paragraphs, using the fmt program (which I have
defined to be the so-called "equal program", which is typicaly for
many vi programs).  Say the message is 4 paragraphs long, I go to
the top of the first one and issue the command =4} directly from the
visual mode.

Lastly, re-insert the quotes:

:.,$s//> /


Pondering what I just wrote, you could do all this from the command
line on a file, just using sed and fmt stand-alone.  But as you
can see, the process is awkward...  I only do it when I *really* want
to clean something up.  What would be ideal is a version of fmt that
understood the quoting format, eliminating the need to remove and
subsequently re-install the quote characters.

-Chris Lott

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It has been written:
> HP licenced Transfile v1.03 and offers it for free download to all 200LX
> owners. Now, Win200 v1.03 is severely nonfunctional and
and
>software
> vendors are legally obliged to fix software glicthes.

I don't know if they are legally obliged to fix issues related to use of an
older product on a newer OS. Under your reasoning anyone who ever made DOS
software must "fix" it to work with Windows 2000.

I have the same problem with Act for Windows version 3, trying to talk with
acthp on the palmtop, under Windows 2000. I would love it if someone would
sell a fix. I don't use Transfile anymore, I have an Antec PhotoChute3 USB
card reader, but that is useless with ACT!.



> I wonder if we are all entitled to use v1.10 for free, because HP
Hmm, under this reasoning am I "entitled" to Word2002 because I own Word 97
and Word2000?

> Great shame they try such
> dirty tricks; even M$ fixes things for free! I hope they soon go out
> of business.

Again upgrading software to support an new OS is not just a "bugfix". It is
nice that Yellow computing was willing to create a fix for a discontinued
product. It would be nice if HP still cared about the 200lx and would buy it
from them to place available to all of us. I'm sad to see this attack on a
vendor for trying to help.

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Comments: To: patrick@west.net
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> I don't know if they are legally obliged to fix issues related to use of an
> older product on a newer OS. Under your reasoning anyone who ever made DOS
> software must "fix" it to work with Windows 2000.

I don't use Transfile, and may have mis-understood the nature of the
glitch - but I don't remember hearing that this "byte-sequence" problem
was unique to a new version of the OS - my understanding was that it was
simply a problem from day one.  In any event, I am skeptical of the legal
requirement to fix a bug.  I thought one usually buys software with no
guarantee that it will even work for the intended purpose...

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:58:57 +1200
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Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:30:19 +1200 (NZT)

Chris, have you seen that FMT.EXE from the text utilities
TUT111AX.ZIP mentioned here a month or so ago?

It does have this great prefix option, which works fine
with quotes:

-p, --prefix=3Dprefix
      Only lines beginning with the prefix (possibly pre-
      ceded by white space) are re-arranged;  the  prefix
      (with  any  preceding  white space) is stripped for
      the formatting and re-attached  to  each  formatted
      output line.  One use is to format certain kinds of
      program comments, while leaving the code unchanged.

I have quoted more than normally below - Just to show how FMT
has reflowed the whole thing within 64 cols. I have a ROBOT/LX
script which writes a .bat file to do this automatically. It
uses GREP.EXE to determine the quoting depth. Quoting is then
"re-normalised" and each level is wrapped separately. Both
an "in-wrap" and and "out-wrap" can be specified for each
box in POST/LX. In between, it can launch POSTH.EXE to do
the headers.  It is overkill, but is easily switched off. It
would not have been possible without that GNU FMT.EXE.

That "prefix" above is not limited to being just one
character.

(I do have fun with this - based on the wrap I use SED to
alter PE.CFG to the approriate wrap and zoom. So, I can wrap
messages to 40 columns, read and type in big print<G>, and
then "out-wrap" them back to 64 or 78 etc. But as I say,
it's not fast, especially for a deeply quoted long message
- it is automatic though).

Cheers, Tony

8m51s ago ...  On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:41:28 -0500, Chris
Lott wrote:

> > But it still cannot reflow things that came from another
> > place in a chopped up way. I regularly receive email
> > with long lines, and/or with a long line followed by a
> > shorty, then a long line, followed a shorty.
> >
<snip>
>
> Lastly, re-insert the quotes:
>
> :.,$s//> /
>
> Pondering what I just wrote, you could do all this from the
> command line on a file, just using sed and fmt stand-alone.
> But as you can see, the process is awkward...  I only do
> it when I *really* want to clean something up.  What would
> be ideal is a version of fmt that understood the quoting
> format, eliminating the need to remove and subsequently
> re-install the quote characters.
>
> -Chris Lott
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:46:47 -0700
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> > But it still cannot reflow things that came from another place
> > in a chopped up way. I regularly receive email with long
> > lines, and/or with a long line followed by a shorty, then a
> > long line, followed a shorty.

> When I encounter an e-mail like this that really bothers me, and
> I am replying to it and/or need to print it out for reference, I
> usually clean it up in vi with nasty combinations of cryptic ex-mode
> commands (the sed-like ones).  One common situation, re-formatting
> paragraphs that are quoted one level deep:
>
> :.,$s/> //

> to clean something up.  What would be ideal is a version of fmt that
> understood the quoting format, eliminating the need to remove and
> subsequently re-install the quote characters.

I use VIM (another vi editor) for my heavier editing needs.  It not only
can reformat paragraphs (without the need for fmt), it recognizes the
quoting character (>) during the reformat.

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<<
> to clean something up.  What would be ideal is a version of fmt that
> understood the quoting format, eliminating the need to remove and
> subsequently re-install the quote characters.

I use VIM (another vi editor) for my heavier editing needs.  It not only
can reformat paragraphs (without the need for fmt), it recognizes the
quoting character (>) during the reformat.
>>

My mistake.  I use VIM 5.3 on my laptop, which has the reformating feature
that preserves the quote character.  Unfortunately, VIM 3.0 (which runs on
the LX) does not .... so I guess FMT is what you have to use on the LX (for
vi email formatting).

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:02:38 -0400
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Feher Tamas wrote:

>  Great shame they try such
> dirty tricks; even M$ fixes things for free! I hope they soon go out
> of business.

Sometimes Micro$oft saves the bug fix for the next version.

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:54:24 -0400
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        Longden Loo ably wrote:
> I use VIM (another vi editor) for my heavier editing needs.  It not =
only
> can reformat paragraphs (without the need for fmt), it recognizes the
> quoting character (>) during the reformat.

Still, the original assertion was that there is no program out
there that can reflow text INCLUDING quoted parts to the
margins used by the reader.

Certainly I have been able to EDIT an email, and MANUALLY fix
things so I can read it and so on. I usually try to not waste
my time on it. Equally, if fixing such an email means d/l 15
programs, running 2 or three others, and mastering arcane command
sequences of 2 or 3 other programs, making some heroic an
unnatural acts in order to fix the email, then my choice is
the DEL key! Sorry.

Anyway, we started with a simple question about wrapping, and
it is now dealing with VIM, VI, FMT and SED, command sequences
are flying like fur bits.

The simple answer to the person who asked is this: Unless you
want to go into heroics, learn 2-3 new programs and their
command structure, then just accept that there is no program
out there to do the trick simply and in a straight forward
manner.

At least I have not seen such a program. If some knows of a
program that is usable to read email without unnatural acts
and contortions, please step forward.

Thank you all for the fantastic solutions you have come up
with - I do not mean to take away anything from your
creativity and adroitness. The scope of solutions and their
depth clearly shows that this community is well above the norm
in lists on the internet - it is almost like this list should
be called "Solutions R Us!" <G>. I just tried to answer
someone a straight and simple question about PE.

I certainly did not want to get into any religious wars about
the relative merits of PE vs. VI vs. VIM and other related
tools.

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I cant get agenda to run on the LX
-- I have an 8MB double speed
I loaded maxdos on to C drive
updated maxdos with the lines
maxdos -1
200
maxdos -r

no luck
it usually says - not enough memory to run agenda
please help


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Date:         Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:28:03 -0700
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Patrick West wrote:

> I don't know if they are legally obliged to fix issues related to use of an
> older product on a newer OS. Under your reasoning anyone who ever made DOS
> software must "fix" it to work with Windows 2000.
> <...>
> Again upgrading software to support an new OS is not just a "bugfix".
> It is nice that Yellow computing was willing to create a fix for a
> discontinued product. It would be nice if HP still cared about the
> 200lx and would buy it from them to place available to all of us. I'm
> sad to see this attack on a vendor for trying to help.

You misunderstood.  This has nothing to do with a new OS.  Transfile 1.03
was distributed free, but had a serious bug that renders it useless in
many cases.  This new version supposedly fixes that bug, but they want a
large sum for it.  This sounds a lot like the old bait and switch sales
tactic -- isn't that generally illegal?

Also, the product is obviously not discontinued, or they wouldn't still be
selling it.

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In case anyone is interested, I've now successfully written an ADB
file from a program of mine, so that it passes DBCHECK and can be
opened with the Appt app with apparently no problems.

ADB files are pretty complex - how the records are cross-linked was
somewhat of a pain, but I think I'm there. My next step will be to
suck data out of Outlook to create the file. I'll keep you posted.

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:50:33 -0700
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Thank you Tony, Steve, Uli and Chris. I apologize if I missed
someone.

Some things have come up so I haven't had a chance to more than
quick read through your responses. It'll be a week or so before
I really have time to do more. From your replies, though, I
think I have the answers I need, and it also seems my
trigonometry skill are well beyond rusty :) And I used to be
quite good at math too.

To answer a couple questions about what this is for: On my
LX-Mapblast page, when a map is generated, the center point lat
and lon is known. I have had several requests to add lat/lon
coordinates for opposite corners in order to calibrate the map
for LXGPS. From the pixel dimensions and the scale of the map I
can calculate the North-South and E-W distances (arc lengths).
With the center point lat/lon and these distances, and the
appropriate equations I hope to determine the corner point
coordinates.

If this is successful and sufficiently accurate, another idea I
have is to support panning of the map. This would allow browsing
around the area of interest, and also generating a series of
maps to cover a region in a more logical fashion.

Thank you again for your assistance.

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Hi Adam,

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:25:39 EDT, AHA2K@AOL.COM wrote:

> Would like to see compiled list of sites relating to HPLX, or favorites, as
> well as tools available for learning (of) the most useful mobile applications.

Welcome in the world of really powerful mobile computing!

The best places to start are in my opinion

http://www.palmtop.net
http://www.hplx.net
http://peichl.hplx.net (must-have, free software)

on my homepage you will probably find more interesting links and maybe
also information that's useful for you:

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de

What do you want to do with your palmtop?

GTX
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Hi Stefan

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:24:35 +0000, Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:

> Today I decided to do the operation at the open heart. I left
> the backup battery in my 64MB techram while opening the case.
> As soon as I removed the mainboard, I connected it to the
> adapter. Now I had all the time to take the keyboard apart.

Yes, I do repairs all the time that way. Except of course repairs and
upgrades which I have to solder on the mainboard for. For that purpose
the backup battery MUST be removed, otherwise one could damage the
whole motherboard.

But always make sure the backup battery is not low. If you do that for
the first time, use a new backup battery, in case you forget to connect
to the adapter or somethint else doesn't work as expected.

But anyway, ALWAYS make a backup of your internal drive(s)!

> As Daniel told me, I cleaned all key contacts with a cotton
> swab soaked in contact spray. I cleaned both sides, the plasic
> foil with the "bubbles" and the silver foil. On the bubble side
> one could see the impressions from the silver side. I cleanded
> until these impressions faded away. On the silver foil I
> cleaned the black parallel strips. The swab became very black,
> but indeed it didn't take off the whole thing.

I have the impression that every solvent or contact spray doesn't only
CLEAN the contacts but also removes the black contact layer (graphite?)
if you wipe too intensive. So better stop wiping if you think the dirt
is washed away, don't wait for the cotton swab to stop becoming black
:-)

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It did not run without maxdos
how exactly do I get maxdos to assign this memory
I am a DOS novice

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---- "Tony Kan" <tony.kan@clear.net.nz> wrote:
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> Have you tried running agenda without maxdos?
> Alternatively get Maxdos to assign a minimum amount of
> memory to agenda such as 640k
> Cheers
> Tony.
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>
>
> I cant get agenda to run on the LX
> - -- I have an 8MB double speed
> I loaded maxdos on to C drive
> updated maxdos with the lines
> maxdos -1
> 200
> maxdos -r
>
> no luck
> it usually says - not enough memory to run agenda
> please help
>
>
> ashoni arora
> ashoni@onebox.com - email
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thank you
however I cant understand your advice about "more menu at enter"
what exactly does this mean?

I tried option 2 but get
"could not find a.exe"

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---- Tony Hutchins <th@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:38:20 +1200 (NZT)
>
> Ashoni, 2 ways to run Agenda:
>
> 1. without maxdos
>
> MORE MENU A T ENTER This terminates Sysmanager and puts you
> at a DOS prompt.  Now run agenda from the DOS prompt.
>
> 2. with maxdos
>
> Correct - have maxdos -l then 200 then maxdos -r in your
> autoexec.bat.
>
> REboot to activate the maxdos tsr.
>
> Assign agenda to an icon and use something like this:
>
> maxdos c:\agenda\agenda.exe
>
> to start it.
>
> Note you will not be able to run agenda by clicking on it
> in File manager. Maybe that is what you were trying?
>
> Good Luck!
>
> I do use agenda. I just run it from dos with sysman
> terminated.  I think the best way is to use Software Carousel,
> then agenda can be kept open all the time.
>
> Regards, Tony
>
> 14h31m25s ago ...  On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:06:55 -0400, ashoni
> arora wrote:
>
> > I cant get agenda to run on the LX -- I have an 8MB double
> > speed I loaded maxdos on to C drive updated maxdos with
> > the lines maxdos -1 200 maxdos -r
> >
> > no luck it usually says - not enough memory to run agenda
> > please help
> >
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:27:51 -0400
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> From: ashoni arora mailto:ashoni@ONEBOX.COM
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:09 AM
>
> however I cant understand your advice about "more menu at enter"
> what exactly does this mean?

What Tony meant was to use the following 4-key sequence:

<&...><MENU><A><T>

Each label inside the angle brackets <> appears on one of the keyboard keys.
The key bearing the label '&...' is the green key located just above the
letter 'O' and it has the title 'MORE' underneath it in a gray box.  Using
this sequence  when the System Manager is running puts you into the 'More
Applications' screen, activates the menus, chooses the 'Application' menu
and selects 'Terminate All' to close every active program running under
System Manager and exit System Manager itself, returning you to DOS.

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> > From: ashoni arora mailto:ashoni@ONEBOX.COM
> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:09 AM
> >
> > however I cant understand your advice about "more menu at enter"
> > what exactly does this mean?
>
> What Tony meant was to use the following 4-key sequence:
> <&...><MENU><A><T>
> Each label inside the angle brackets <> appears on one of the keyboard keys.

One comment that might help ... sometimes my palmtop gets in a
"confused" mode where the shortcut keys, like "T" for "Terminate All"
don't work.  In this situation, one has to cursor the highlighted
menu entry down to the desired one.  Maybe this is contributing to
the communications problem ???

-Chris Lott

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Tamas Feher wrote:
> Well, I will never give such a big heap of money
> to yellow. In fact I will never give them a penny
> for any bugfix. Great shame they try such dirty
> tricks; even M$ fixes things for free! I hope they
> soon go out of business.

Do you really think of that as a dirty trick?  The program has
several problems.  If they got bought the rights to it and took
the time to fix it I would say they're entitled to try to make a
few bucks from it.

By the way I saw it for sale somewhere else the other day for
$35.  I think it might have been at Samson Cable.

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>>Yes, I do repairs all the time that way. Except of course repairs and
>>upgrades which I have to solder on the mainboard for. For that purpose
>>the backup battery MUST be removed, otherwise one could damage the
>>whole motherboard.

if you get a gas soldering iron you can safetly solder on the mother board
with the backup battery in or let the soldering heat up and than unplug it
to solder.

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Hi,

I'm looking for a PCMCIA CDPD modem for use with my HP200LX.  (I want
to be able to log on to my Unix machine using sshdos.)  Since the
200LX can't provide much power to the PCMCIA card, the modem will need
an external battery.  I've found four modems that seem to fit the
bill:

Motorola Personal Messenger PM100C
Uniden Data 2000
PCSI Ubiquity 1000
Tellus Monarch 130

But all four of these modems seem to have been discontinued, and I
haven't been able to find anyone selling a used one.  Please let me
know if you can suggest a source where I might find one of these
modems.

Thanks!!

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thank you
problem solved

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> > > From: ashoni arora mailto:ashoni@ONEBOX.COM
> > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:09 AM
> > >
> > > however I cant understand your advice about "more menu at enter"
> > > what exactly does this mean?
> >
> > What Tony meant was to use the following 4-key sequence:
> > <&...><MENU><A><T>
> > Each label inside the angle brackets <> appears on one of the keyboard
> keys.
>
> One comment that might help ... sometimes my palmtop gets in a
> "confused" mode where the shortcut keys, like "T" for "Terminate All"
> don't work.  In this situation, one has to cursor the highlighted
> menu entry down to the desired one.  Maybe this is contributing to
> the communications problem ???
>
> -Chris Lott
>
> --
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I noticed that my screen seems slightly shifted to the right so a little
bit of it is actually on the left
Im talking about the display
is there any way to toggle it a bit to center it
rest does nothing

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It sounds like you have a double-speed machine. The double-speed upgrade causes the screen to shift on some LXs (on others the
screen is almost unviewable). There is a driver that is distributed with the upgrade that fixes this problem. You probably have an
LX that was not given to you with the driver installed.



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Subject: screen shift


I noticed that my screen seems slightly shifted to the right so a little
bit of it is actually on the left
Im talking about the display
is there any way to toggle it a bit to center it
rest does nothing

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Does anyone know why I can no longer access the hplx.news.net news server??

Have they shut it down.

Are they taking a long time to work on something???

Any knowledge would appreciated.

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On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Malcolm Shewan wrote:

> Does anyone know why I can no longer access the hplx.news.net news
> server??

It's being upgraded -- it should be back up and running this evening.

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Thanks to all who replied to my question re PalEdit / Pick files listing.

What a great resource the list is!

I hav'nt tried the suggestions offered, but I am sure that most of them
have the answer I'm looking for.


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On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:34:13 -0500, Curtis Cameron wrote:

> In case anyone is interested,

Always interested in what you do Chris :-)

> I've now successfully written an ADB
> file from a program of mine, so that it passes DBCHECK and can be
> opened with the Appt app with apparently no problems.

Whoa said that the Hplx was dead in these modern Pimworld..

> ADB files are pretty complex - how the records are cross-linked was
> somewhat of a pain, but I think I'm there. My next step will be to
> suck data out of Outlook to create the file. I'll keep you posted.

I see in the future a way to sync both the Hplx adb file and the Nokia
6210 calender. This will be very nice. Nokia has some syncutility on
their website.

How is the Rex/Hplx adb thing going? My problem was first of all that
the time/date was reset everytime I "syncd" the card.

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Hello Mike,

I have been a frequent user of LX-Mapblast since well...
always :-) It has been very useful to me.

I followed this thread but had nothing to offer - all this
math is greek to me.

> If this is successful and sufficiently accurate, another idea I
> have is to support panning of the map. This would allow browsing
> around the area of interest, and also generating a series of
> maps to cover a region in a more logical fashion.

Perfect!!! On occasions I needed the detailed map (to get
street names etc, but also wanted to be able to move about. I
know Mamblast allows coordinates input, but it was always so
cumbersome on the palmtop. Making it possible to pan about is
a welcome development!

I always brag to my associates, colleagues and customers about
various programs and facilities on the Palmtop (such as email,
browsing for maps, VR, and many many many others, much too
numerous to remember and mention) and mapping is by far a
lovely addition which always raises eyebrows. I keep many maps
of areas I go to over an over, and even "stitched" together
several maps (on the desktop, with graphics programs) several
adjacent maps of places I go to over and over. I use LXPIC
with that - and it allows me to pan about.

Perhaps you can contact LXPIC's author to obtain from him help
in how to generate a LARGE area map, but only show a smaller
area from it, and let the pan about. LXPIC redraws on each
move and a larger image will take longer, but PCXs also draw
very fast with LXPIC.

I am sure I reflect the sentiment of many of us here when I
say "ONE BIG THANK YOU!"

   Joe S.


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Barry,

> Tamas Feher wrote:
> > Well, I will never give such a big heap of money
> > to yellow. In fact I will never give them a penny
> > for any bugfix. Great shame they try such dirty
> > tricks; even M$ fixes things for free! I hope they
> > soon go out of business.
>
> Do you really think of that as a dirty trick?  The program has
> several problems.  If they got bought the rights to it and took
> the time to fix it I would say they're entitled to try to make a
> few bucks from it.

Yellow Computing WROTE the program initially (or at least
published it) It was free. It came with bugs. It came with
some annoying features (overwrite file dates, max 57600 baud,
and more).

They fixed some, but not all, the problems (the list is longer
than above!) and now they sell the improved program. I echo
your idea: They are entitled to it.

As far as Tamas' claim: I think that AT MOST(!) Yellow Computing should
send Tamas back a reimbursement of the price he paid on the
first program <G>, and that he should use that amount towards
the purchase of the second, improved program <G>.

Software sometimes comes with a reimbursement clause: You can
get damages to the extent of what you paid. If the
reimbursement clauses were higher, Micro$oft would have
disappeared off the face of the Earth a loooong time ago.

 Joe S.


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Date:         Sat, 23 Jun 2001 01:13:37 -0400
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Hi all,

A while back I noted that someone included the following link information
in a post that showed a 386 made by HP that appeared to be a palmtop that
is somewhat larger than the HP200LX.  I'm left wondering why that post
got no comments or reactions on this list, at all:

Tidalwave Me-386 and Omron Massif.
<http://homepage1.nifty.com/w_jammer/palmtop/palmtop.htm>

The Tidalwave ME-386 looked interesting to me, but some of the stuff on
the website was in Japanese and unintelligible to me.

Also, I noticed that a new Nokia communicator that uses the Sybian OS
will debut soon in the United States.  Check out the "The New Nokia 9290
Communicator Debuts in the Americas" link at www.nokia.com.

It's appears to be a 900/1800 mhz phone with a built-in full palmtop size
color screen that offers wireless web browsing, organizer functions,
etc...

Does anyone have any comments about that phone/palmtop combo?  It seems
to look like the Nokia 9210 combo that wasn't offered in the US.

I would also suppose that there is a DOS emulator for the Sybian OS.  Are
there any Sybian OS fans here that might know how fast that DOS emulator
would likely run on the Nokia 9290?

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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I was cleaning the screen of my device with Windex; some of the solution must have seeped into the unit, since the bottom strip of the screen is no longer legible. Is there anyway for me to fix this myself, or am I going to have to send this to Thaddeus?
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Hi friends,

I seem to remember that there was a piece of software which turns the
palmtop into a "Tele-Prompter", but I can't find it. I have searched on
SUPER and Google but to no avail.

I'm not speaking about Read/LX or a similar program which displays the
text word by word on one place of the screen,
but I'm speaking about a program which reads a text file and scrolls it
horizontally with big letters in a customizeable speed over the screen.

Wasn't there something like that?

TNX
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:26:27 +0200
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If you check the page correctly, you see that the cpack is loaded..., so it
has standard dos, plus the Connectivity Kit, simulating the LX

Michel

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Subject: Possible HP200LX replacements?


Hi all,

A while back I noted that someone included the following link information
in a post that showed a 386 made by HP that appeared to be a palmtop that
is somewhat larger than the HP200LX.  I'm left wondering why that post
got no comments or reactions on this list, at all:

Tidalwave Me-386 and Omron Massif.
<http://homepage1.nifty.com/w_jammer/palmtop/palmtop.htm>

The Tidalwave ME-386 looked interesting to me, but some of the stuff on
the website was in Japanese and unintelligible to me.

Also, I noticed that a new Nokia communicator that uses the Sybian OS
will debut soon in the United States.  Check out the "The New Nokia 9290
Communicator Debuts in the Americas" link at www.nokia.com.

It's appears to be a 900/1800 mhz phone with a built-in full palmtop size
color screen that offers wireless web browsing, organizer functions,
etc...

Does anyone have any comments about that phone/palmtop combo?  It seems
to look like the Nokia 9210 combo that wasn't offered in the US.

I would also suppose that there is a DOS emulator for the Sybian OS.  Are
there any Sybian OS fans here that might know how fast that DOS emulator
would likely run on the Nokia 9290?

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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OFF TOPIC:

On my Win98SE laptop, I have two PCMCIA slots.  I usually have the Accton
ethernet card in one slot when I use it.  Often I will pop my Sandisk
flashdisk from the HP200LX into the second slot for file copying.  When
I do this, it *always* resets my ethernet connections.  For example, if
I have telnet-ed to my shell account, the telnet client reports that the
connection has been reset, and I have to logback in again.  Similarly,
any Windows network mapped drives on other computers get disconnected
and then automatically reconnected.

This isn't a real serious problem, but I was curious if this was an
effect peculiar to my laptop, or perhaps PCMCIA-based ethernet
connections in general.

Oh yeah, one more data point.  I doesn't seem to behave this way when
I do the opposite.  That is, I stop the Sandisk card and wait until
the OS tells me I can safely remove it.  Upon removal, the ethernet
connections seem to left alone.

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Date:         Sat, 23 Jun 2001 07:53:30 -0800
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        Malcolm Shewan ably wrote:
> Does anyone know why I can no longer access the hplx.news.net news =
server??
>
> Have they shut it down.
>
> Are they taking a long time to work on something???
>
> Any knowledge would appreciated.

David Sargeant who owns this domain and the machines has
posted here several times lately, perhaps he can shed some
light. I used the list for a loong time, but it became so
sporadic (up and down) I gave up. Email to him went
unanswered. I later learned he was ill, so I am glad to see
him posting back again.

   Joe S.


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Date:         Sat, 23 Jun 2001 07:53:32 -0800
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Daniel wrote:

> I seem to remember that there was a piece of software which turns the
> palmtop into a "Tele-Prompter", but I can't find it. I have searched on
> SUPER and Google but to no avail.

I keep thinking about something I saw called Podium. No other
information... Sorry.

  Joe S.


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Date:         Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:06:04 -0400
Reply-To:     Larry Tachna <ltachna@ATT.NET>
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thanks for the interesting links you posted. What I found even more
interesting on the nokia site were the results of the mobile challenge nokia
had, the applications look very cool.

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Curtis Cameron writes:
> In case anyone is interested, I've now successfully written an ADB
> file from a program of mine, so that it passes DBCHECK and can be
> opened with the Appt app with apparently no problems.
>
> ADB files are pretty complex - how the records are cross-linked was
> somewhat of a pain, but I think I'm there. My next step will be to
> suck data out of Outlook to create the file. I'll keep you posted.

This sounds like a major accomplishment, Curtis--great job!  I'm a
bit surprised you haven't gotten more reaction from the list, as I
thought there were quite a few that wanted to sync with Outlook.
I don't currently use it, but my office is upgrading computers now
and anything is possible.

Thanks for your continuing efforts for the palmtop community.

Ted

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> Curtis Cameron writes:
> > In case anyone is interested, I've now successfully written an ADB
> > file from a program of mine, so that it passes DBCHECK and can be
> > opened with the Appt app with apparently no problems.
> >
> > ADB files are pretty complex - how the records are cross-linked was
> > somewhat of a pain, but I think I'm there. My next step will be to
> > suck data out of Outlook to create the file. I'll keep you posted.

Curtis:

I want to congratulate you.  From personal experience, decoding the
CDF version of the ADB file, I know how difficult this can be.  For my
HP2REX application (still not finished) I had to decode *two* formats,
the HP and the REX.

Would you consider sharing the software at some point in the future?
I would be interested in having a look at it - who knows, maybe some
day I'll expand the HP2REX program to go the other way...

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:44:50 +0100
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Curtis,

That's one of the reasons why I am still using the HP200LX.
There is such fun and expertise in this list !

Lokking forward to your progress..

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> Curtis Cameron writes:
> My next step will be to
> suck data out of Outlook to create the file. I'll keep you posted.


Rather than do that consider hooking to the current version of Intellisync
for Yahoo.
<http://address.yahoo.com/yab/us?.rand=1369133069&&A=x&A2=9&stC=All&stG=0&st
T=v&stP=1&stP2=1&stI=0&stA=0>


After it is in yahoo anyone can get the free yahooo versions of Intellisync
and TrueSync. Than the folks at yahoo can worry about the next change to
Outlook or the newest phone on the market.

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When I have my HP OB800CT docked (dock contains PCI network
card, one PCMCIA slot contains modem), I cannot access my
Sandisk when plugged in. Undock and off the network, no
problem recognizing the Sandisk. Haven't tried to figure it
out.

Chris Lott wrote:
>
> OFF TOPIC:
>
> On my Win98SE laptop, I have two PCMCIA slots.  I usually have the Accton
> ethernet card in one slot when I use it.  Often I will pop my Sandisk
> flashdisk from the HP200LX into the second slot for file copying.  When
> I do this, it *always* resets my ethernet connections.  For example, if
> I have telnet-ed to my shell account, the telnet client reports that the
> connection has been reset, and I have to logback in again.  Similarly,
> any Windows network mapped drives on other computers get disconnected
> and then automatically reconnected.
>

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Date:         Sat, 23 Jun 2001 12:36:38 -0500
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Could

"Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
>
> When I have my HP OB800CT docked (dock contains PCI network
> card, one PCMCIA slot contains modem), I cannot access my
> Sandisk when plugged in. Undock and off the network, no
> problem recognizing the Sandisk. Haven't tried to figure it
> out.
>
> Chris Lott wrote:
>


Could this be due to the fact that the ATA flash cards take two
interrupts under Windoze (one for the controller, one for the
card), and funny things happen if you don't have an interrupt
free when you put an ATA card in? Just guessing. Bryan

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Anyone out there still using act! for the HP?

Patrick
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should always be running your own anti virus program. I am using both Norton
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is anyone on the list using agenda 2.0 with presidents planner
it seems to run too slow to be of any use
any thoughts?

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PS
this is on an 8MB DS

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----         ashoni arora <ashoni@ONEBOX.COM> wrote:
> is anyone on the list using agenda 2.0 with presidents planner
> it seems to run too slow to be of any use
> any thoughts?
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jun 2001 14:47:56 -0500
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Daniel Hertrich <daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE> asked about the VPROM2 teleprompter
program.

See: http://www.palmtopPaper.com/ptphtml/49/pt490006.htm for a description
of the program and an indication that the program is available on the SUPER
site. It doesn't appear to be there. You might try searching SIMTEL. If you
want to try it, it's available on the Jan 2000 PalmtopPaper on Disk and also
available on the CD InfoBase.

I tried using VPROM2 several years ago. For the shareware version, the
scroll area was limited to 22 characters wide and the program would only
hold about 70 lines of 22 characters. IMHO interesting but useless. IIRC
tried contacting the author for registered copy (32 wide field and 5000
lines ) but to no avail.

There was another program called Podium Pal, IIRC. I think that was
commercial ware and may have been advertised in the HP Palmtop Paper but it
was never reviewed.

.ed. PTP,retd

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It might be because the Tidalwave is nothing more than the old Zeos =
Pocket Pc, retrofitted with a 386 cpu.  The Zeos pocket pc is about the =
same size as a Poqet, significantly bigger than an hplx.  And nowadays a =
386 doesn't get you very far.  The Zeos machine was put out to pasture =
years ago, about the same time as the Poqet.

Domingo
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: John J Vanderstel=20
  To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu=20
  Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:13 AM
  Subject: Possible HP200LX replacements?


  Hi all,

  A while back I noted that someone included the following link =
information
  in a post that showed a 386 made by HP that appeared to be a palmtop =
that
  is somewhat larger than the HP200LX.  I'm left wondering why that post
  got no comments or reactions on this list, at all:

  Tidalwave Me-386 and Omron Massif.
  <http://homepage1.nifty.com/w_jammer/palmtop/palmtop.htm>

  The Tidalwave ME-386 looked interesting to me, but some of the stuff =
on
  the website was in Japanese and unintelligible to me.

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  <DIV>Hi all,<BR><BR>A while back I noted that someone included the =
following=20
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appeared to be=20
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at=20
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omepage1.nifty.com/w_jammer/palmtop/palmtop.htm</A>&gt;<BR><BR>The=20
  Tidalwave ME-386 looked interesting to me, but some of the stuff =
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Chris Lott proclaimed:

 >I certainly did not want to get into any religious wars
 >about the relative merits of PE vs. VI vs. VIM and other
 >related tools.

 !take my religion :)
i use LE editor (in combination with Xtree-gold to load, rename etc and
Quick.com to format quotes etc) - works like a charm :)

from the LE editor manual:
Use "Remove Carriage Returns" to selectively
remove carriage returns (also known as "CR/LFs,"
"paragraph markers," or "hard returns") from the
file.
For example, when you open most ASCII files there
is a carriage return at the end of each line and
paragraphs will not "flow" properly between the LE
margins.  If you remove the carriage returns,
consecutive lines are converted to one long
paragraph which fits smoothly between the margins.

Returns are not removed if:

~  There are two returns in a row (like a
   typewriter, two returns usually separate
   paragraphs)

~  The next line starts with a space (this
   indention is usually a deliberate separation
   from the previous paragraph)

~  The next line starts with a tab (same reason as
   space)
 ---
and the best thing about LE editor - it has an extra large font which looks
stunning on the LX

previous discussions
  >-{start paste}-
Still, the original assertion was that there is no program out there that
can reflow text INCLUDING quoted parts to the margins used by the reader.
The simple answer to the person who asked is this: Unless you want to go
into heroics, learn 2-3 new programs and their command structure, then just
accept that there is no program out there to do the trick simply and in a
straight forward manner....
When I encounter an e-mail like this that really bothers me, and I am
replying to it and/or need to print it out for reference, I usually clean it
up in vi with nasty combinations of cryptic ex-mode commands (the sed-like
ones).  One common situation, re-formatting paragraphs that are quoted one
level deep:
From:    Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
 >I use VIM (another vi editor) for my heavier editing needs.
 >It not only can reformat paragraphs (without the need for fmt),
 >it recognizes the quoting character (>) during the reformat.
  >-{end}-

btw. my favorite directory name turned out sounding less sexy:
!MAKE`MY.DAY

Nathalie

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My computer became infected with a worm virus this morning and it may =
have sent mail to list members.   If you received mail from me with =
attachments do NOT open them.

It's called W32/BadTrans@MM . It hides inself in attachments by a =
mulitude of names.

You need to run an anti-virus software like from www.norton.com .  They =
have a free version.

Sorry for the inconvince.  As soon as I saw it sending these bogus =
messages, I turned off the modem.

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attachments do NOT open them.</DIV>
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<DIV>It's called <A href=3D"mailto:W32/BadTrans@MM">W32/BadTrans@MM</A> =
. It hides=20
inself in attachments by a mulitude of names.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>You need to run an anti-virus software like from <A=20
href=3D"http://www.norton.com">www.norton.com</A> .&nbsp; They have a =
free=20
version.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sorry for the inconvince.&nbsp; As soon as I saw it sending these =
bogus=20
messages, I turned off the modem.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If you didn't open it your probably ok.</DIV>
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Hi Domingo and all,

>It might be because the Tidalwave is nothing more than the old Zeos =
>Pocket Pc, retrofitted with a 386 cpu.  The Zeos pocket pc is about the
=
>same size as a Poqet, significantly bigger than an hplx.  And nowadays a
=
>386 doesn't get you very far.  The Zeos machine was put out to pasture =
>years ago, about the same time as the Poqet.

I would expect that a 386 would get one much further than an XT.  Except
for it's larger size, the Tidalwave seems offer almost everything that
those on this list put in their wish list for a HP200LX replacement.

It was my understanding from the many years of posts on this list that
the major problem with upgrading the HP200LX was that it was nearly
impossible to retrofit it with a 386 cpu.  Could it be that a compatible
palmtop was right under our noses, all along?

Are there really any significant differences between the Tidalwave and
the closely watched palmtop prototype created in the Japanese "Morphy"
project?

BTW, I'm rather surprised that we still haven't seen any response at all
from the Sybian OS fans here on the possible merits of the Nokia 9210
combo or the debuting Nokia 9290 combo's palmtop and their operation
while running a DOS simulator.  The Nokia 9290 phone/palmtop combination
seems to offer a high quality color display and a highly capable web
browser.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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A 386 in that size is nothing new.  The Prolinear company offered one =
for years in the same size as the Zeos machine.   I have read a number =
of negative reviews about that machine.  The company is now defunct, I =
believe.   Here is a site with info on it: =
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-PaloAlto/2960/ps3000.html   =
There was yet another one, from china I think, but not much came to this =
side of the pond.  Pal Al used to own one, he could tell you more about =
it.  As far as the Morphy, I think the whole thing boils down to power =
requirements and parts availability.

Domingo

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  To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu=20
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 2:21 AM
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  I would expect that a 386 would get one much further than an XT.  =
Except
  for it's larger size, the Tidalwave seems offer almost everything that
  those on this list put in their wish list for a HP200LX replacement.

  It was my understanding from the many years of posts on this list that
  the major problem with upgrading the HP200LX was that it was nearly
  impossible to retrofit it with a 386 cpu.  Could it be that a =
compatible
  palmtop was right under our noses, all along?

  Are there really any significant differences between the Tidalwave and
  the closely watched palmtop prototype created in the Japanese "Morphy"
  project?


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        Nathalie Bugeaud ably wrote:
> Chris Lott proclaimed:
>
>  >I certainly did not want to get into any religious wars
>  >about the relative merits of PE vs. VI vs. VIM and other
>  >related tools.

Actually I proclaimed this, not Chris Lott. You grabbed his
quote of my post I think.

>
>  !take my religion :)
> i use LE editor (in combination with Xtree-gold to load, rename etc =
and
> Quick.com to format quotes etc) - works like a charm :)

I know LE and it is not terribly useful ESPECIALLY in the area
of rewrapping posts with quotations in side them that
themselves need rewrapping. Sorry, Nathalie, but that is
FAAAAAAAr from a suitable solution.  PE is by FAR more useful
to do manual reformatting than LE.

In the meantime I was directed to POSTH by Tony Hutchins.
According to his claims, and examples, that package does
EXACTLY what I said no program does. I have not tried it yet,
but I suspect Tony produced a winner here.

> from the LE editor manual:
> Use "Remove Carriage Returns" to selectively
> remove carriage returns (also known as "CR/LFs,"
> "paragraph markers," or "hard returns") from the
> file.

Too simplistic - a 10% solution. What the person was looking
for and I have been looking for is somehting that will adjust
the width of the message - INCLUDING THE PARTS THAT ARE QUOTED
- to the width of the screen _I_ happen to be using.

So: Let's say you send stuff on a margin of 72 chars, I quote
you but my messages are margined at 64 chars, and I send my
post with your stuff quoted in it, to someone else.

That person reads on a margin of 40 and would like all the
quotations and posts to be reformatted so that:

1. The margins are at 40, including the quoted parts!

2. The quoted parts are reformatted to fit on a margin of 40
and quoted properly inside that margin.

LE has died somewhere early in this requirement, waaaaay
early. Sorry. PE survived a bit longer than LE. I know you
love it, but it is not nearly the tool you think it is.

Thank anyway for mentioning it. It is very very nice program
with lots of power, and it works on the palmtop like a champ.

   Joe S.


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On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:16:01 -0500, Chris Lott wrote:

> > Curtis Cameron writes:
> > > In case anyone is interested, I've now successfully written an ADB
> > > file from a program of mine, so that it passes DBCHECK and can be
> > > opened with the Appt app with apparently no problems.
> > >
> > > ADB files are pretty complex - how the records are cross-linked was
> > > somewhat of a pain, but I think I'm there. My next step will be to
> > > suck data out of Outlook to create the file. I'll keep you posted.
>
> Curtis:

Curtis and Chris

Opps.. looks like I replied to a mail from Curtis and thought it was
from Chris..sorry :-) Too many guys with names that start with the
letter C :-)

Well from what you guys wrote I am exited if you can get your heads
together and enhance the Hp2rex program..

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Thanks for the warning, no damage so far.
Ziggy

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Hi Tim,
your running one year ahead of us.
or is that a way to fool the virus and transport it into the future?
ciao Ziggy

Tim Shephard wrote:

> My computer became infected with a worm virus this morning and it may
> have sent mail to list members.   If you received mail from me with
> attachments do NOT open them. It's called W32/BadTrans@MM . It hides
> inself in attachments by a mulitude of names. You need to run an
> anti-virus software like from www.norton.com .  They have a free
> version. Sorry for the inconvince.  As soon as I saw it sending these
> bogus messages, I turned off the modem. If you didn't open it your
> probably ok. -Tim

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Hi Tim,
<br>your running one year ahead of us.
<br>or is that a way to fool the virus and transport it into the future?
<br>ciao Ziggy
<p>Tim Shephard wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>My
computer became infected with a worm virus this morning and it may have
sent mail to list members.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you received mail from me with
attachments do NOT open them.</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>It's
called <a href="mailto:W32/BadTrans@MM">W32/BadTrans@MM</a> . It hides
inself in attachments by a mulitude of names.</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>You
need to run an anti-virus software like from <a href="http://www.norton.com">www.norton.com</a>
.&nbsp; They have a free version.</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Sorry
for the inconvince.&nbsp; As soon as I saw it sending these bogus messages,
I turned off the modem.</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>If
you didn't open it your probably ok.</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>-Tim</font></font>&nbsp;&nbsp;</blockquote>

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> > Chris Lott proclaimed:
> >
> >  >I certainly did not want to get into any religious wars
> >  >about the relative merits of PE vs. VI vs. VIM and other
> >  >related tools.

I did NOT write the above text - it came in a reply to one of
my posts.  I was NOT comparing merits of any editors, just
answering a question about formatting e-mail.

-Chris Lott

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> In case anyone is interested, I've now successfully written an ADB
> file from a program of mine, so that it passes DBCHECK and can be
> opened with the Appt app with apparently no problems.

<snip>

Great news!  Everytime I contemplate switching back to WinCE, a "light"
shines on the 200lx again!

OL2LX is one of the most useful programs I currently use with my
palmtop and desktop.  The completion of the ADB part of OL2LX will
indeed keep me a hp200lx user for YEARS to come.

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Indeed, and if Curtis cranks his new found secrets into OL2LX, it will
indeed be that much more powerful.

>
>
> Great news!  Everytime I contemplate switching back to WinCE, a "light"
> shines on the 200lx again!
>
> OL2LX is one of the most useful programs I currently use with my
> palmtop and desktop.  The completion of the ADB part of OL2LX will
> indeed keep me a hp200lx user for YEARS to come.
>
> Marcus
> zaaap@earthlink.net
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Exactly, it was a quotation of my post in your message that
Nathalie attributed to you, instead of me. I guess after all
the time we spent here, people still do not understand
quoting, and what belongs to whom <sigh> ...

   Joe S.

Chris Lott ably wrote:
> > > Chris Lott proclaimed:
> > >
> > >  >I certainly did not want to get into any religious wars
> > >  >about the relative merits of PE vs. VI vs. VIM and other
> > >  >related tools.
>
> I did NOT write the above text - it came in a reply to one of
> my posts.  I was NOT comparing merits of any editors, just
> answering a question about formatting e-mail.
>
> -Chris Lott
>
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hi Tamas,

I found a version of Transfile here for download:
http://www.walz.com/softw/trans200.exe

it seems to be free, but when I tried it with a critical file, my palmtop
crashed. Thats a new bug for me....

Werner



on 21 Jun 2001, at 11:22 Feher Tamas wrote about:
Transfile v1.10 and the magic byte-sequence trans

> Hello all,
>
> The german Yellow Computing firm sells TransFile Win200 version 1.10
> for 69DM+shipping. They claim it fixes the "magic byte-sequence" data
> transfer problem of v1.03.
>
> I wonder if we are all entitled to use v1.10 for free, because HP
> licenced Transfile v1.03 and offers it for free download to all 200LX
> owners. Now, Win200 v1.03 is severely nonfunctional and software
> vendors are legally obliged to fix software glicthes.
>
> Do you think I should write H-P asking them to grab TransFile v1.10
> and offer it for download instead of v1.03? I think H-P could easily
> defend itself against Yellow Computing if needed, as the germans
> shipped critically non-functional software to H-P, causing bad
> publicity and thus material and non-material losses to H-P.
>
> Well, I will never give such a big heap of money to yellow. In fact I
> will never give them a penny for any bugfix. Great shame they try such
> dirty tricks; even M$ fixes things for free! I hope they soon go out
> of business.
>
> Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.
>



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I can also see that it uses CGA. I thought the CPACK wouldn't work well on CGA. Has someone overcome that limitation?

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Bel, Michel
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Subject: Re: Possible HP200LX replacements?


If you check the page correctly, you see that the cpack is loaded..., so it
has standard dos, plus the Connectivity Kit, simulating the LX

Michel

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From: John J Vanderstel mailto:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM
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Hi all,

A while back I noted that someone included the following link information
in a post that showed a 386 made by HP that appeared to be a palmtop that
is somewhat larger than the HP200LX.  I'm left wondering why that post
got no comments or reactions on this list, at all:

Tidalwave Me-386 and Omron Massif.
<http://homepage1.nifty.com/w_jammer/palmtop/palmtop.htm>


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Brian's probably right. In order to use a flash card in a ThinkPad 770 at
work, I had to disable the internal modem (which I don't use) because there
were no free interupts for the flash card. I have a similar probem at home
(Win 95, PII/200mHz with 2 floppies, 2 hard drives, 2CD's, 1 modem, 2
network cards) when I added an external PCMCIA reader. It can handle SRAM
fine (uses drivers rather than interupts), but If I try to use a flash card,
I can't access my second hard drive. The problem there is a lack of a free
interupt for the flash disk.

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Could

"Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
>
> When I have my HP OB800CT docked (dock contains PCI network
> card, one PCMCIA slot contains modem), I cannot access my
> Sandisk when plugged in. Undock and off the network, no
> problem recognizing the Sandisk. Haven't tried to figure it
> out.
>
> Chris Lott wrote:
>


Could this be due to the fact that the ATA flash cards take two
interrupts under Windoze (one for the controller, one for the
card), and funny things happen if you don't have an interrupt
free when you put an ATA card in? Just guessing. Bryan

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Well, this is indeed interesting.  But in my case, the network card still
works, as does the SanDisk.  The only problem is that upon insertion of
the SanDisk, all ethernet connections are reset.  I can re-establish them
after the initialization of the SanDisk is complete.  At that point, both
cards function just fine.  Another data point I have observed - this
doesn't happen when I insert a serial port card instead of a flash disk.
Interestinger and interestinger...

-Chris Lott


> Brian's probably right. In order to use a flash card in a ThinkPad 770 at
> work, I had to disable the internal modem (which I don't use) because there
> were no free interupts for the flash card. I have a similar probem at home
> (Win 95, PII/200mHz with 2 floppies, 2 hard drives, 2CD's, 1 modem, 2
> network cards) when I added an external PCMCIA reader. It can handle SRAM
> fine (uses drivers rather than interupts), but If I try to use a flash card,
> I can't access my second hard drive. The problem there is a lack of a free
> interupt for the flash disk.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Biggers mailto:bbiggers@CHARTER.NET
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 12:37 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: OT: PCMCIA Question
>
>
> Could
>
> "Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
> >
> > When I have my HP OB800CT docked (dock contains PCI network
> > card, one PCMCIA slot contains modem), I cannot access my
> > Sandisk when plugged in. Undock and off the network, no
> > problem recognizing the Sandisk. Haven't tried to figure it
> > out.
>
> Could this be due to the fact that the ATA flash cards take two
> interrupts under Windoze (one for the controller, one for the
> card), and funny things happen if you don't have an interrupt
> free when you put an ATA card in? Just guessing. Bryan


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On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Chris Lott wrote:

> Well, this is indeed interesting.  But in my case, the network card
> still works, as does the SanDisk.  The only problem is that upon
> insertion of the SanDisk, all ethernet connections are reset.  I can
> re-establish them after the initialization of the SanDisk is complete.
> At that point, both cards function just fine.  Another data point I
> have observed - this doesn't happen when I insert a serial port card
> instead of a flash disk. Interestinger and interestinger...

The exact same thing happened to me on my desktop PC (Windows 98) when I
insert a flash card, regardless of brand or whether it's a CompactFlash or
regular Type II card.  I figured it had something to do with all of my
interrupts being used and the flash card having to share one with the
network card, so I freed up some IRQs, and sure enough, the problem went
away, though I still have no idea what the specific cause was.

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On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 02:21:36 -0400, John J Vanderstel wrote:

John

> BTW, I'm rather surprised that we still haven't seen any response at all
> from the Sybian OS fans here on the possible merits of the Nokia 9210
> combo or the debuting Nokia 9290 combo's palmtop and their operation
> while running a DOS simulator.

The biggest Symbian fan has left the Hplx list. He had a Ericsson
Mc215(Psion 5Mx) which ran Epoc. Ok machine (My dad have one), but it
would not satisfy me. He (not my father:-) used the Hplx for a
weatherfax service. He lived on/in a boat at Sortland Norway not far
from me, but I am not sure where he is now. I have Bcc'd this message
to him.)

I would rather go for Epoc than Pocket Pc/Win Ce if I really had to.
But I am in the process of getting a 32mb ds machine Hplx from Thaddeus
so I am set for the future.

>  The Nokia 9290 phone/palmtop combination
> seems to offer a high quality color display and a highly capable web
> browser.

Yes, but do I (we) really need it? I seldom have the need to "surf"
around (the bandwidth is okey with HSCSD, but..). We will soon have
GPRS here in Norway. That will increase the speed a lot. The Hplx can
not keep up, but thats okey.

All I need is to get in touch with you guys here on the list and also a
few newsgroups and ofcourse mails. If I need to access my online
bankaccount I can do that either via phone/cellular or borrow a "real
pc" wherever I am.

Hp200lx will be my main machine for many years to come.

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Hi Martin,

On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:05:18 -0400, Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:

> >  The Nokia 9290 phone/palmtop combination
> > seems to offer a high quality color display and a highly capable web
> > browser.
>
> Yes, but do I (we) really need it? I seldom have the need to "surf"
> around (the bandwidth is okey with HSCSD, but..). We will soon have
> GPRS here in Norway. That will increase the speed a lot. The Hplx can
> not keep up, but thats okey.

Don't expect too much from GPRS.
The throughput speed is lower than the speed of HSCSD. At least here in
Germany the network provider "E-Plus" offers GPRS services only
with a data transfer rate of 25 kbps. That is less than two full-used
GPS time slots (half the speed of HSCSD).
The big advantage is that you pay per byte and not per minute, so speed
doesn't affect the bill anymore.
I don't know if GPRS will ever be faster than that.
But UMTS will come sooner or later :-)

GTX
daniel

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On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:05:29 -0800, Joe H. Smith wrote:

> Exactly, it was a quotation of my post in your message that
> Nathalie attributed to you, instead of me. I guess after all
> the time we spent here, people still do not understand
> quoting, and what belongs to whom <sigh> ...

And sometimes people (me) confuse not what they write, but who they are
:-)

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Hallo,

do we have the possibity to manipulate the length of 'field name' while
creating a new database ? Thanks for help
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I have the following 3 items for sale and I'm also looking for Smartmedia
memory.

- Microcom 14.4 Pocket Modem (with battery (internal) and charger). Works
very well with the 200 LX. I used it with LXTCP and WWW/LX. $25 OBO+$5
shipping

- Compact Flash Sandisk 160 Meg, $130 OBO+$5 shipping

- PCMCIA Sandisk 20 Meg ATA Type II flash card, $25 OBO+$5 shipping

All of the above work with my 200 LX, it's just that I am a new father of a
baby boy and have decided to buy a decent digital camera... unfortunately,
the camera I'm buying uses Smartmedia (bad luck for me), so I am emptying my
drawer to reinvest in Smartmedia memory.

I will also consider exchanging some of the above with a Smartmedia to
PCMCIA adapter and Smartmedia cards.

I am currently looking into 128 or 64 meg Smartmedia cards and to a
Smartmedia-PCMCIA adapter.

I haven't used the modem for a year or so since I switched to a Palm Vx
modem, but I remember using it with LXTCP, Post/LX and WWW/LX and although
it wasn't very fast, it worked well.

Thanks,

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Hi all!

Greetings from the 51st Meeting of Nobel Prize Winners in Lindau.
This year we have a meeting of Physics Laureates.
In the morning there were lectures about heterostructures in
semiconductor physics, the basis of all our palmtops.


Regards,

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> do we have the possibity to manipulate the length of 'field name' while
> creating a new database ? Thanks for help

The 200LX manual (pg 4-9) says field names can have up to 20 characters.
So I guess you can manipulate it up to that limit.

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Hi Stephan and Hans,

On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 06:37:49 -0400, Stephan Luettjohann <Luettjohann@GMX.DE> wrote:

> Greetings from the 51st Meeting of Nobel Prize Winners in Lindau.
> This year we have a meeting of Physics Laureates.
> In the morning there were lectures about heterostructures in
> semiconductor physics, the basis of all our palmtops.

Great to hear from you! This is indeed a MUP - I don't think that there
are much postings ever sent from a nobel prize winners meeting.

I'm looking forward to more inventions coming from you after the
"palmtop thermometer"!
Did you get a nobel prize for that?
What is planned next? ;-)

GTX
daniel

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This may be slightly off topic but may be of interest to the group.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20010626/tc/mdf17947.html

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Subject: PHONE/CALENDAR SYNC
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:13:58 -0400

Dear Fellow LX'rs

I am looking for a way to work with my calendar and phone book on my =
laptop and then transferring the data to my  200LX.

I have the information backed up on PCMCIA  card and a card slot Type II =
on the laptop, the connectivity cables etc.

thank you for any suggestions

Jake

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        Stephan Luettjohann ably wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Greetings from the 51st Meeting of Nobel Prize Winners in Lindau.
> This year we have a meeting of Physics Laureates.

Wonderful MUP! I wonder how many people there use the HP
Palmtop?

http://almaz.com/nobel/alpha.html contains a list of all
laureates, in alpha order or by field.

   Joe S.


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i received an email from D&A's announcement list about a brand
new item they just released, MindMap LX. What a fantastic
program. It is already on their Website - main page, left
column first item. And they even have a cute animated logo for
TimeTracker/LX! :)

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        Ed Padin ably wrote:
> This may be slightly off topic but may be of interest to the group.
> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20010626/tc/mdf17947.html

Man, they call it "compact"! It is about the size of a
breadbox! <G> Almost a kilo in weight!

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Hi friends,

wouldn't it be great to control the phone book on a mobile phone with
the palmtop?
I think about a solution to synchronize it with the palmtop's built-in
contacts database, as I developed already for the email/SMS address book
for Post/LX (PDB2ADR).

I know that the phone book entries on a mobile phone are readable and
writeable with AT commands, so it is technically possible, even via
IrDA using WWW/LX and a Robot script.

So the way could be to extract PDB entries into a seperate text file
containing pairs of name and mobile phone number and then to start a Robot
script which reads that file and sends the entries, wrapped into the
corresponding AT commands, to the phone.

Has anyone already developed such a solution?
Is anyone interested?
If it turns out to be a new idea, and if I will develop the tool(s), it
would be goud if someone could send me an overview of Nokia phone AT
commands. I already have the PDFs describing Siemens AT commands.

TNX
daniel

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On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:37:23 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi friends,

Hello there.

> wouldn't it be great to control the phone book on a mobile phone with
> the palmtop?

Yes that would be great. I have wanted to do that since I got the Hplx.
I now do something similar.

I use ir.exe and I transfer this to the phone:

BEGIN:VCARD
N:Daniel Hertrich
TEL;WORK:
TEL;CELL:
TEL;FAX:
TEL;HOME:
TEL:
TEL;WORK:
EMAIL:
LABEL:
NOTE:
END:VCARD


> I think about a solution to synchronize it with the palmtop's built-in
> contacts database, as I developed already for the email/SMS address book
> for Post/LX (PDB2ADR).

I have not had the time to look into this yet. I will soon. Not sure
exactly how it works.

> I know that the phone book entries on a mobile phone are readable and
> writeable with AT commands, so it is technically possible, even via
> IrDA using WWW/LX and a Robot script.

Yes I have used the ir.exe to transfer to and from the phone. But I
have not found a way to transfer a complete Vcard from phone to Hplx. I
have looked on the utilities which comes in the Pim/lx package. But I
have not had the time to experiment more than a little with it.

> So the way could be to extract PDB entries into a seperate text file
> containing pairs of name and mobile phone number and then to start a Robot
> script which reads that file and sends the entries, wrapped into the
> corresponding AT commands, to the phone.

What I do is to choose/highlight the name in the Hplx's phonebook and
then runs a macro that chooses a smartclip and saves it to a file and
then runs a batchfile which transfers it to the phone via ir.exe.

> Has anyone already developed such a solution?

I am not sure what I really want. I probably want a sync feature where
I get all what is in the phones phonebook over to the Hplx. And have a
field that says this I want transferred and this not..(just thinkng
loud here..)

> Is anyone interested?

Yes I am interested.

> If it turns out to be a new idea, and if I will develop the tool(s), it
> would be goud if someone could send me an overview of Nokia phone AT
> commands.

You could go and download some of the atcommands from forum.nokia.com.
I think you could find a pdf there under Datacard. I will have a look
in my harddrive. I think I have it here somewhere.

The main differences between a Nokia and other phones is that
(6210/7110) has a biig phonebook. It can hold more numbers/info per
name. (500/1000)

That is what is nice with it.

> I already have the PDFs describing Siemens AT commands.

I have to think about what I want such a application to do. I will
help you in any way I can..

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Date:         Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:46:13 +0200
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 >Actually I proclaimed this, not Chris Lott. You grabbed his quote
 >of my post I think.

there is too much quoting and HTML junk on this list lately that members who
receive digest versions, like me, need too much effort to sort out this mess
to be able to reply in orderly fahion.

 >I know LE and it is not terribly useful ESPECIALLY in the
 >area of rewrapping posts with quotations in side them that
 >themselves need rewrapping. Sorry, Nathalie, but that is FAAAAAAAr
 >from a suitable solution.  PE is by FAR more useful to
 >do manual reformatting than LE.

i diasagree! my original post stated that i used LE (V4.0A - not the
Japanese LE) together with Quick-LX qnd Xtree-gold. Sorry, I should have
stated Quick-Dos instead of Quick-LX because i run it on the laptop
(including Andreas' "Read-LX"). It is QuickDos which handles all the
quoting. If i want to re-format margins in PE with 60 paragraphs of an
e-mail I have to hit ESC-Q 60 times, whereas LE does it with one single
ALT-U-R.

as to QuickDos here are some of my quoting macros:

zz=>#4FE0#73E0#0E08#130D
3zzz=>#4FE0#73E0#0E08#130D >#4FE0#130D#130D
4zzzz=>#4FE0#73E0#0E08#130D >#4FE0#73E0#0E08#130D >#4FE0#130D#130D
xx= >#4FE0#73E0#0E08#130D
vv=>#47E0#50E0#130D
cc=#3920>#4FE0#130D#130D
nn=>#47E0#50E0#73E0..#130D#130D
vv=>#47E0#50E0#130D
bb=Bonjour  :)#130D#73E0#4BE0

the "z" sequence gives me the choice of between 1 and 3 lines quoted; the
"x" is for intermediary, and the "c" for the end. The space before the ">"
is necessary for LE re-formatting (the spacebar starts the sequence)

 >In the meantime I was directed to POSTH by Tony Hutchins. According
 >to his claims, and examples, that package does EXACTLY what I
 >said no program does. I have not tried it yet, but I suspect Tony produced
 > a winner here.

how did the trying go?

 >somehting that will adjust the width of the message - INCLUDING
 >THE PARTS THAT ARE QUOTED - to the width of the screen _I_ happen
 >to be using.

THAT i have to see :)  - although i think it could be done with QuickDos

 >So: Let's say you send stuff on a margin of 72 chars, I quote you
 >but my messages are margined at 64 chars, and I send my post
 >with your stuff quoted in it, to someone else.

this means the editor has to first delete the ">" and then reinsert them for
the new margins. I can't see an editor doing this

 >LE is very very nice program with lots of power, and it works
 >on the palmtop like a champ.

there is also a LW with Spellchecker/Theosaurus - i run both on my LX. I
have PE on my LX just for experimenting with macros. I don't like it because
I have never been able to auto re-format imported text to screen-wrap unless
i do one paragraph at a time... and i don't have that time!

i take this opportunity to thank Tony Hutchins for his kindness to many of
our menbers

btw. anyone know of a windoze version for QuickDos which can be turned
on/off at will?

Nathalie

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Joe H. Smith wrote:
>
> i received an email from D&A's announcement list about a brand
> new item they just released, MindMap LX. What a fantastic
> program. It is already on their Website - main page, left
> column first item. And they even have a cute animated logo for
> TimeTracker/LX! :)

So far it has only been announced to those who have joined the D&A
mailing list. Everybody may go to their webpage and sign up to their
list and you will get these announcements first hand.

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Hi Daniel!

> Great to hear from you! This is indeed a MUP - I don't think that there
> are much postings ever sent from a nobel prize winners meeting.
>
> I'm looking forward to more inventions coming from you after the
> "palmtop thermometer"!
> Did you get a nobel prize for that?

No, to my suprise the thermometer has been invented before ;-)

> What is planned next? ;-)

We'll see! When I will have a new project I'll tell you first!



Hi Joe,

> Wonderful MUP! I wonder how many people there use the HP
> Palmtop?

Unfortunately I haven't seen any :-(
Prof. Giaever used his big heavy laptop to show slides
on "How to start a scientific buisiness?".
Other laureates with more physical topics used
standard slides on an overhead projector.



> http://almaz.com/nobel/alpha.html contains a list of all
> laureates, in alpha order or by field.
>
>    Joe S.

At www.nobel.se or www.kva.se there are wonderful abstracts about
the Nobel Prizes. You'll find background information about the
discoveries as well as autobiographies of the lareates.

Stephan

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anyone know if its around?



> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 2:22 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Possible HP200LX replacements?

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> Are there really any significant differences between the Tidalwave and
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:50:41 -0400
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I noticed on the SUPER site that there have been over 2000 downloads of
Lotus Agenda.

Anyone who is using or is interested in using Agenda on their 200LX might
want to consider joining the PIMlist.

This list has 310 enthusiasts who can provide help and advice on setting up
and using Agenda.

Just follow this link for more info:
http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/list.htm

M Stocker

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Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:41:45 -0500 (EST)

Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:34:22 -0500 (EST)

Hello All:

   In cleaning my ofice I found a cable for an APEX(MobilePlus) MODEM
   to a Motorola MicroTAC Cell Phone. If any an use it, let me know and
   it's yours.

   I also have a new, srinked wrapped copy of pcANYWHERE v4.5 Host &
   Remote "NOW with WINDOWS support" ;-)...Yours for the asking as well.

   Also, an HPF1011A #ABB AC/DC adapter for an LX (European
   configuration, round non-folding prongs) could be yours as well.

   Please respond Off-List

   Cheers...AJKind
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:53:27 +0100
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Nathalie,

>
> btw. anyone know of a windoze version for QuickDos which can be turned
> on/off at will?

Ten years ago I used a commercial program called WAYS for Windows which
did autocompletion of words and had a dictionary which learned new
words. It was from a Swiss programmer as well :)

HP Staber/Salzburg

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> It was my understanding from the many years of posts on this list that
> the major problem with upgrading the HP200LX was that it was nearly
> impossible to retrofit it with a 386 cpu.  Could it be that a compatible
> palmtop was right under our noses, all along?

You have to remember that some of us are in love with NOT only DOS but
with the PIM aspects of the HP200.  For me, finding a small, more
powerful dos computer is not the total answer.  I need a full set of pim
applications as complete as that found in the HP.  I do not like the
Outlook-mini, etc of the win-ce devices.

A dos computer which does not wake up and sound an alarm means that I
need a second device, negating any points for a 386 dos computer.

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Date:         Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:41:18 -0800
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Hi Folks:

This was posted two days ago to the D&A Announcements List.
They already purchased copies of the product. Lesson: Click on
to our Website, and join the list - be the first in your
neighbourhood to license a fantastic program <VBG>... Read on!

Please keep in mind that I do not read the HPLX List, so if
you post stuff for me - I will not able to see it unless my
"clipping service" <G> do their work for me. So best is to
send inquiries to info@dasoft.com. If the question is of a
general enough nature, I'll post it and answer back to the list.
I will NOT mention names <g>...

  Avi M. D&A
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D&A Software is pleased to announce another program that was
made available today, June 25 2001. It is called MindMap/LX,
or MM/LX for short.

This program, another excellent example of the talent of
Andreas Garzotto, implements a technique of mind mapping for
use on the HP Palmtop! This product is useful in mapping out
ideas, thoughts, and also to summarize information in a
hierarchical fashion. For example, it can be used in taking
notes in lectures, or when preparing speeches, papers, and so
on. Other uses include such diverse examples as computer
picture albums, help files, manuals, project tracking, travel
logs, and resumes.

It was designed to run on the HP Palmtop, but there is a
report that it runs well on a Jornada with PocketDOS emulation!

There is a lot of information, examples, and even a brief
tutorial on mindmaps on D&A Software's Website, at
http://www.dasoft.com.

You may download an unregistered copy from our Website and try
it out. Its only limitation is that it will not save your
mindmap if unlicensed (unregistered).

The product is available from D&A Software for $29.95 per
copy. You can use our order form at
http://www.dasoft.com/orderfrm.htm to order the program. The
most effective way for us to process your order is for you to
send us the order form by fax (see the form for the fax
numbers) or simply email the form to

     register@dasoft.com

You may remove from the form those item that are not relevant
directly to your order.

Concerns with Credit Card Numbers in email: If you worry about
this you may place one half of your credit card number in one
email, and the other half of the number send (with your name
please so we can put them together!) to

    register@alwaysafe.com

We will put the two parts together.

This program is sold electronically only: You download the
program, we will supply the license information by email to
you upon payment, you register the program, and its limitation
is then magically removed!

Once again, on behalf of myself and Andreas, the author, I
wish to thank the diligent and talented Beta group. They have
again proven that value and quality can be designed into a
program product with care and persistence. Thank you all!

If you have questions or comments please direct them to me,
Avi Meshar, at info@dasoft.com. I am looking forward to
reading your comments.

Thank you for your continued support.

  Avi Meshar
  President and Chief Executive Officer
  D&A Software

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Date:         Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:58:38 -0400
Reply-To:     "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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From:         "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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> From: D&A Software Support mailto:info@DASOFT.COM
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 5:41 AM
>...
> be the first in your
> neighbourhood to license a fantastic program <VBG>...
>
> D&A Software is pleased to announce another program that was
> made available today, June 25 2001. It is called MindMap/LX,
> or MM/LX for short.
>...
> The
> most effective way for us to process your order is for you to
> send us the order form by fax (see the form for the fax

How long does it take to get it licensed?  I sent my fax on Tuesday
(2001-06-26) and have not received an answer.  This is software I can use.
I needed it 2 days ago!

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hi,

I found this on www.listbot.com:

Important notice:
We are discontinuing the ListBot service on August 6th.
Existing list data will remain available  until August 20th.
Click here for alternatives to ListBot and to see the ListBot shutdown
schedule and FAQ.

Does anybody know what happens with the DA-Announce list?

Werner

on 27 Jun 2001, at 8:06 HP Staber wrote about:
Re: I did not see this announced here!

> Joe H. Smith wrote:
> >
> > i received an email from D&A's announcement list about a brand
> > new item they just released, MindMap LX. What a fantastic
> > program. It is already on their Website - main page, left
> > column first item. And they even have a cute animated logo for
> > TimeTracker/LX! :)
>
> So far it has only been announced to those who have joined the D&A
> mailing list. Everybody may go to their webpage and sign up to their
> list and you will get these announcements first hand.
>
> HP Staber/Salzburg
>



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"Striegel, Alan" wrote:

> How long does it take to get it licensed?  I sent my fax on Tuesday
> (2001-06-26) and have not received an answer.  This is software I can use.
> I needed it 2 days ago!

Hold your horses.... today is only 6/28/01.     Give them some time to do it.

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Dr. Werner Furlan posted on HPLX about the August 6 demise of
Listbot's _FREE_ service and asked:

> Does anybody know what happens with the DA-Announce list?

Thanks. This is an excellent question to send to
info@dasoft.com <g>!!!

First, this announcement refers to the FREE service only, and
list owners have the option to pay $149 per year and maitain
the service.

Second option is to move the list elswhere.

I am researching both options at this time.

Seems to me I may have to rejoin the HPLX List to reply to
questions, huh? <G>

  Avi Meshar
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The message posted by Alan Striegel on HPLX was forwarded to
me for comment.

Alan's fax arrived here Jun-26-2001 at 8:56. I personally
processed his order. Here is the header and 1st paragraph of
the email I sent to him with license information for MM/LX. I
took out his email address (different from the header below.)
My response went to him about 28-29 hours later. We process
the orders in batches to ease the credit card processing.

   > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:48:03 -0800
   > From: "D&A Software Support" <support@dasoft.com>
   > To: alan@xxxxxxxxxxxx
   > Subject: mindMap/LX License information
   > X-Mailer: Post/LX 3.1a
   >
   > Dear Alan Striegel:
   >
   >
   > Thank you for purchasing a license for MindMap/LX
   > (MM/LX). We are confident that you will find this
   > software to be useful to you.

Today in the morning I received an email from Alan asking
about the order. I checked. The problem was that I mis-typed
his email address, omitting jone letter from it. Consequently,
the email went to someone at some domain in Belgium!
(Hopefully they have a HP200LX and will get to use Alan's
license for free! <G>)

My reply, with a resend of the email to the proper email
address is going to Alan in the same pass as this email.

> How long does it take to get it licensed?  I sent my fax on Tuesday
> (2001-06-26) and have not received an answer.  This is software I can =
use.
> I needed it 2 days ago!

It is lovely to read Alan needed this software 2 days ago! We
feel similarly about MM/LX, we simply love it...

Our turnaround time on orders is usually 1-2 days, but on
occasions processing of orders took as much as 5 days, due to
"crunch" at work, travel, etc. We beat the industry standards
by 2 DAYS(!), albeit there are some faster (and much larger)
processors. I hope I can live up to Alan's standards.

I am also glad he wrote to us in person to inquire about what
happened.

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Does anyone know of a telnet application that will run on the LX?
Preferably, compatible with WWW/LX...

Thanks,

Marcus

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Here's a light for laptops that looks like it is powered off a
USB port.  Could it be (easily) converted for LX use?

http://www.kensington.com/products/pro_cas_d1334.html

Cheers... Russ

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:16:40 -0700, Marc - wrote:

>Does anyone know of a telnet application that will run on the LX?
>Preferably, compatible with WWW/LX...

I think the "kerlite" version of Kermit may telnet; not positive about
the telnet, but kerlite runs fine on 200lx

        `~Maynard

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Marc - wrote:

> Does anyone know of a telnet application that will run on the LX?
> Preferably, compatible with WWW/LX...

LXTELNET (part of the LXTCP/PNR suite) runs very nicely on my speed
doubled 200LX.  I've been using it for almost four years now.  I
don't know if it will work with WWW/LX.

Ted

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Telnetlx, written FOR WWW/LX.   :-)
http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/telnet12.zip

Domingo
  On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:16:40 -0700, Marc - wrote:

  >Does anyone know of a telnet application that will run on the LX?
  >Preferably, compatible with WWW/LX...

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Perhaps you could ask them if they could make a serial port version =
first (I think the wiring is rather different from USB, even for such a =
simple application).  Then it would not be so difficult to adapt it with =
a plug for the hplx.

Domingo
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  Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 5:20 PM
  Subject: USB light


  Here's a light for laptops that looks like it is powered off a
  USB port.  Could it be (easily) converted for LX use?

  http://www.kensington.com/products/pro_cas_d1334.html

  Cheers... Russ


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Did you try Telnet from D&A? It is on their Website. If you
already have WWW/LX this should work fine.

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> Telnetlx, written FOR WWW/LX.   :-)
> http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/telnet12.zip

I recommend that you download D&A programs from D&A sites.
You are then assured of latest, shiniest versions. I know our
versions are clean. The site is maintained.

The URL you gave is a PERFECT EXAMPLE: It has an old version,
with possibly some bugs, and so on. Instead go to one of our
FTP sites:

ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW and pick up what you need.

or:

http://alwaysafe.com/dasoft/public_ftp and pick what you need!

This puzzles me: It happened many times before. We offer the
latest FOR FREE, in a maintained site (clearly the Palmtop.net
site is NOT maintained with regards to _this_ program) Yet
people recommend that site, with old software. Why? Very
puzzling.

  Avi M. D&A
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Hi Avi (CC: To the list)

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:54:50 -0800, D&A Software Support <info@DASOFT.COM> wrote:

> Seems to me I may have to rejoin the HPLX List to reply to
> questions, huh? <G>

Do you really consider that? It would be great to see you here again.
I understand why you left the lsit - too much flames and personal
offenses. But I am sure (at least I HOPE) that people have learned and
don't begin such wars again.

In the last months it was very calm and peaceful here with only very
few exceptions. It that doesn't change, you can rejoin without any
trouble.

GTX
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Hi Avi (CC: to the list)

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:05:00 -0800, D&A Software Support <info@DASOFT.COM> wrote:

> I recommend that you download D&A programs from D&A sites.
> You are then assured of latest, shiniest versions. I know our
> versions are clean. The site is maintained.

> This puzzles me: It happened many times before. We offer the
> latest FOR FREE, in a maintained site (clearly the Palmtop.net
> site is NOT maintained with regards to _this_ program) Yet
> people recommend that site, with old software. Why? Very
> puzzling.

Palmtop.net may have older version, because it is not so well
maintained, but it is still the center place to look for palmtop
software. It is a collection of nearly EVERYTHING.
So id one asks for palmtop software, it is nicer and easier to say
"look at www.palmtop.net for everything you need"
than to say "look on ftp.dasoft.com/..." for WWW/LX, on ftp.x.y for
this, on "http://example.url.somewhere" for that..

The ideal way would be of course if palmtop.net wouldn't hold the
software itself, but rather links to the sites which offer the latest
versions.

Everytime I find useful software on palmtop.net I ALSO look for a newer
version, either with a provided link in the docs of that software, or,
if necessary, with google.com

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:18:36 -0400, Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK> wrote:

> Perhaps you could ask them if they could make a serial port
> version first (I think the wiring is rather different from
> USB, even for such a
> simple application).  Then it would not be so difficult to
> adapt it with a plug for the hplx.

I didn't have a look on the mentioned site, so I first have to ask:
Is this a light build with LEDs? In that case, it MAY run when powered
from the palmtop's serial port. But it is not sure that it does.

The palmtop provides about 10mA if an LED is connected WITHOUT current
limiting resistor. You don'T need such a resistor, because the driver
chip of the port has resistors built-in which stand short-circuits,
even if they are unlimited in time.

If the specs of the used LEDs are as good that they have a bright
light, even with only 10mA, then the light may be useful if converted
to fit into the serial port.

For a HPLX connector and suitable wiring so that it even works with
Stefan Peichl's LIGHTON TSR to switch it on and off by hotkey, look at
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight

GTX
daniel




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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:16:40 -0700, Marc - wrote:

> Does anyone know of a telnet application that will run on the LX?
> Preferably, compatible with WWW/LX...
>
> Thanks,

How about Telnet/Lx from Dasoft's site. Works great with Www/Lx

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'fess up Avi, you are here aren't you?  I know I did not send this to =
you.  :-)

Glad to see you are back.

Domingo
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: D&A Software Support=20
  To: Domingo ; HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:05 PM
  Subject: Re: telnet app?


  > Telnetlx, written FOR WWW/LX.   :-)
  > http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/telnet12.zip

  I recommend that you download D&A programs from D&A sites.
  You are then assured of latest, shiniest versions. I know our
  versions are clean. The site is maintained.


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Daniel, I think he is back on the list, because I did not send the =
original reply to him.

Domingo
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  Hi Avi (CC: to the list)


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Dear all,

My 200LX 2mb unit hit the floor, slipping out of my chest pocket while
leaning forward. Now the screen flickers (turns on and off) rapidly,
something like 15 times a second or at ever higher frequency. As far
as I can see the display still works (when the LCD is on for a brief
period the screen content looks OK).

Could you suggest the probable point of failure and any
home-applicable cure? The left hinge (when viewed from the keyboard in
open state) separated even more than originally was (I purchased the
palmtop with this minor aesthetical defect, but it worked A-OK until
this accident some 20 minutes ago).

Thank you in advance, Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Feher Tamas wrote:

> My 200LX 2mb unit hit the floor, slipping out of my chest pocket while
> leaning forward. Now the screen flickers (turns on and off) rapidly,
> something like 15 times a second or at ever higher frequency.

My 200lx hit the floor several times and came away uharmed.    Sorry to
hear about your mishap.

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Date:         Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:25:31 +0200
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Hi Tamas,

On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:09:10 +0200, Feher Tamas <etomcat@2FKFT.COM> wrote:

> My 200LX 2mb unit hit the floor, slipping out of my chest pocket while
> leaning forward. Now the screen flickers (turns on and off) rapidly,
> something like 15 times a second or at ever higher frequency. As far
> as I can see the display still works (when the LCD is on for a brief
> period the screen content looks OK).

Please have a look at
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair
and follow the instructions for testing the display contacts.

Maybe the screws on the left side of the screen are loose.

Please report.

GTX
daniel


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There's also sshdos (http://sshdos.sourceforge.net/).  It works well on a
double-speed 200LX.  I'm not sure if it can run at the same time that
WWW/LX drivers are loaded (it expects to find a packet driver loaded),
but it has the advantage over straight telnet in that it doesn't send
your password in the clear, and the session is encrypted.  It may run
a bit too slowly for a single-speed 200LX, though.

Kermit and NCSA telnet have also been ported to DOS.

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Hi

(This is something I posted to the list some time ago. This is what I
would like to do. You had a idea of something with cellphones and Hplx
the other day..)

I use my Hplx appointmentbook and also the calender in my Nokia 6210.

I enter into the Hplx appointmentbook when I am supposed to be at work
the next day and in the two weeks ahead. I also enter as a event if I
have work that or that weekend.

This is I also want in my phone. It takes me quite some time to enter
it twice.

I am not sure how the Vcal standard works.

What I want to do is what I do in the Hplxphonebook. I put the cursor
on the item I want to beam and then run a macro which uses a smartclip
to save the entery in a file with the correct Vcard things that the
6210 then get beamed with the use of ir.exe

I had a look at adb2vcal that are included in the Pim/lx package, but I
can not get it to work.

I am not sure how the Vcal "file" has to look like to get the 6210 to
accept it.

Is there anyone here that can help me out?

Regards

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It will not come away unharmed  forever  .  .  .
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ken London=20
  To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu=20
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: How to cure a 200LX impact mishap?


  Feher Tamas wrote:

  > My 200LX 2mb unit hit the floor, slipping out of my chest pocket =
while
  > leaning forward. Now the screen flickers (turns on and off) rapidly,
  > something like 15 times a second or at ever higher frequency.

  My 200lx hit the floor several times and came away uharmed.    Sorry =
to
  hear about your mishap.

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Date:         Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:49:33 -0700
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Use this as an excuse to get the palmtop to Thaddeus for a once-over.  A tad
pricey, but it'll come back with that new-car smell, trust me.
---
Feher Tamas wrote:
>My 200LX 2mb unit hit the floor, slipping out of my chest pocket while
>leaning forward. Now the screen flickers (turns on and off) rapidly,
>something like 15 times a second or at ever higher frequency.

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Hallo Hallo Hans Peterlein :)

 >Ten years ago I used a commercial program called WAYS for Windows
 >which did autocompletion of words and had a dictionary which
 >learned new words. It was from a Swiss programmer as well :)

ahh those Swiss, what would us French be without their cheese?

what i am looking for is a windoze "WAYS" which can do things like Hard
Returns, Delete, left, right and center :) , not just "autocompletion of
words"

Nathalie

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Five people assured me lately that the list is a nice and
decent place without personal attacks and no hassling. They
also said I'd enjoy myself again here. You all know who you
are, and you are now on the hook! <G>

If you do not know mw, I am Avi Meshar and I run D&A Software.
We recently released MindMap/LX!

Over the past few years I have been up to my wywballs in
Palmtops, and still am. I love these machines - there are none
better that I have seen so far.

Those of you who know me, well... you do. <g>

  Avi

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> Daniel, I think he is back on the list, because I did not send the =
original reply to him.

<G> - but... you are not the only person on the list! I watch
every move you make, Domingo! You can run, but you can't hide!
<VBG>

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Domingo Wrote:

> 'fess up Avi, you are here aren't you?  I know I did not send this to =
you.  :-)
>
> Glad to see you are back.

Nothing to 'fess up: I said it many times, and here it is
again: There are three people on the list who kindly
volunteered to pass along posts from here to me! One is Joe
Smith, the other two have not given permission to say who they
are.

I have a subscription under info@dasoft.com with a NOMAIL
option so I get nothing, but I can post.

Still, regardless, I encourage you, and others to tell people
to get uptodate and correct programs from our Website, not
from unmaintained sites. It save time to your friends, save us
time, and makes the whole system more credible.

Unfortunately, Palmtop.net (waaay back) did not want to use
links to our site, and instead decided to copy items.
Consequently there is a lot of junk out there, and unhappy
people who have no idea why stuff id not working (because it
is old, obsolete, and has been fixed by us a long time ago,
and no one bothered to maintain the site!)

Don't get me wrong: I love what Palmtop.net does - it is
important for the community, but I feel they slightly sabotage
the main purpose of the repository.

Some people, like Daniel, know better and add the
(unnecessary) time to research and find more uptodate
versions. But again - why bother if the whole thing can be
done directly and with no hassles?

I asked and never ever got an answer to why not make links. Oh
well!


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Date:         Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:53:58 +0200
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Hi Martin!

>
> I use ir.exe and I transfer this to the phone:
>
> BEGIN:VCARD
> N:Daniel Hertrich
> TEL;WORK:
> TEL;CELL:
> TEL;FAX:
> TEL;HOME:
> TEL:
> TEL;WORK:
> EMAIL:
> LABEL:
> NOTE:
> END:VCARD
>

Could you please tell me what commands you use to make ir.exe transfer your
vcard?

I have a copy of ir.exe but unfortunately without any documentation.

thanks Juergen.

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Date:         Sat, 30 Jun 2001 20:35:34 +0200
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Hi friends,

I jsut tried to install dict/lx on my palmtop with hte german-english
dictionary from www.dict.org (or .com? don't remember.)
I followed the steps described in the docs, but the perl script which
shall help to create the ini file aborted while probing the charsets.

It created an ini file containing the following

languages
from=English
to=German
files
forward=eng_ger.wb
backward=ger_eng.wb


The I transferred everything to the palmtop and I can now invoke the
program with

lxdict eng_ger.ini

but when I try to search for a word, I everytime get an error message
which tells that something with the German Umlauts is wrong in the
database file.

Does anyone know what I have to do to adjust the settings manually (the
documentation says that the auto-probing of the charset doesn't always
work properly and that one have to do something manually then, but it
doesn't say, WHAT to do).

TNX
daniel

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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
>
> Hallo Hallo Hans Peterlein :)
>
>  >Ten years ago I used a commercial program called WAYS for Windows
>  >which did autocompletion of words and had a dictionary which
>  >learned new words. It was from a Swiss programmer as well :)
>
> ahh those Swiss, what would us French be without their cheese?

Bad choice. Nothing is better than good french cheese and Bordeaux :)

> what i am looking for is a windoze "WAYS" which can do things like Hard
> Returns, Delete, left, right and center :) , not just "autocompletion =
of
> words"

I do know nothing of that sort, unfortunately.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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D&A Software Support wrote:
>
> This puzzles me: It happened many times before. We offer the
> latest FOR FREE, in a maintained site (clearly the Palmtop.net
> site is NOT maintained with regards to _this_ program) Yet
> people recommend that site, with old software. Why? Very
> puzzling.

www.palmtop.net or SUPER site is probably easier to remember and to
quote out of the head.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Hi everyone,

Was just wondering if anyone has written a DOS software to be able to
serially download pictures from the Kodak DC215 to the HPLX?

TIA,
Oliver Chua

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Reply-To:     Domingo <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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That's strange, because palmtop.net has had outside links for a
long time (Nettamer is one which comes to mind).  Unless
something changed since last time I checked that program a
couple of years ago, the Nettamer link always took me to the
author's web site.

Domingo

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To: "Domingo" <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>; <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: telnet app?


Unfortunately, Palmtop.net (waaay back) did not want to use
links to our site, and instead decided to copy items.
Consequently there is a lot of junk out there, and unhappy
people who have no idea why stuff id not working (because it
is old, obsolete, and has been fixed by us a long time ago,
and no one bothered to maintain the site!)

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