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   Martin Bergvill wrote:
> It was http://www.gocomputershop.com
>
> I bought two Accton from him and paid with Paypal in advance. No
> problem. Cards worked out of the box in my Hplx.

I bought from that place too but the seller indicated an excessive amount =
on
the international shipping box which had me incur $20 tax on this $15 =
card. I
am in the process of resolving this with the seller and will let the list
know once cleared.

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Martin Crundall ably wrote:
> has anyone made an ftp server function on the 200LX?

Try ftps.zip at the Download Files link at www.dasoft.com. it
works, too. Needs WWW/LX license.


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Ulrich Boche wrote:
>
> Want something like AvantGo on the HP 200 LX? Forget it.
>
> Ulrich Boche

Ulrich I have gotten a tips that you should look at this site:

http://www.mymobilestuff.com

where the opening screen says:

"Is your handheld chained to you desktop?"

What is it that you want to do on the Hplx that you can not? Do you
want to do as the "Avantgoers" do and download messages from the web to
the hplx?

I did something like that some time ago using get.exe. I downloaded
pages that were built for Avantgo. I stored them in a dir on my Hplx
and then used HV to read them. It worked just fine. The "problem"/time
consuminbg part was finding the correct url for the pages.

Avantgo will ofcourse not run on the Hplx, but how about a Avantgo/Lx?

What do you want such a application to do? I am not familiaer with
Avantgo, but I would like to have a discussion on what people would
like such a application to do exactly on the Hplx.

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What is JNOS? Does it recognize the Accton card or does it do FTPS over a
dialup/ppp connection?

-----Original Message-----
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snip

NOS-BOX, a version of the JNOS operating system, includes an ftp
server component.

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I have just started reading about NOS for another purpose, and was
surprised to see it pop up here on the HPLX list.  Could the original
poster mail me details about which installation he was able to get
running on the 200LX?

> What is JNOS? Does it recognize the Accton card or does it do FTPS over a
> dialup/ppp connection?

As a complete novice, I have to try to answer this.  But from what I
can tell from my reading, NOS in general can communicate over ethernet
cards, with an appropriate packet driver installed, SLIP and PPP, plus
a number of packet-radio interfaces usually driven over the serial port.

> NOS-BOX, a version of the JNOS operating system, includes an ftp
> server component.

-Chris Lott

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Wats this about JAZZ and ZIP disks?
Why, Why aren't peeople using SUPERDISK?
Same kapacity but backward kompatable
to regular floppies.

alas they're obsoleet now, and gon da way
of the PC110 and LX.

If you're looking for a bargain on a new Jaz
disk,
click below. Thanks!

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I'm catching up with my mail

I have a floppy from Accton with drivers, that came with the
Accton 2216-1.
Can't remember ever using it, tough. Can mail or email to anyone
interested, just let me know.

Etienne

Please use only: stelem@attglobal.net

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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 04:15 PM
Subject: Accton 2216 or 2212 and Win95


> Hi friends,
.....

....On the Windows CD there don't seem to be drivers for the
> card, and on the accton web sites I couldn't find drivers,
too.

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> I have just started reading about NOS for another purpose, and was
> surprised to see it pop up here on the HPLX list.  Could the original
> poster mail me details about which installation he was able to get
> running on the 200LX?

I have a webpage which talks about JNOS, NOS-BOX, and the WWW
server I was running on my palmtop. I only briefly mention the
FTP server part, but there is a link to more information.

See http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/welcome.html

Email me if you would like more details.


> > What is JNOS? Does it recognize the Accton card or does it do FTPS over a
> > dialup/ppp connection?
>
> As a complete novice, I have to try to answer this.  But from what I
> can tell from my reading, NOS in general can communicate over ethernet
> cards, with an appropriate packet driver installed, SLIP and PPP, plus
> a number of packet-radio interfaces usually driven over the serial port.

Yes, it works fine with the Accton card.

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is there a pdf viewer available for the 200LX

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Hi Martin,

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:18:57 -0400, Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM> wrote:

> Found this in a newsgroup..maybe of interest for somebody
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
> ...
> I'm selling my organiser since I bought a new one.
> ...
>
> --- end of forwarded message ---

Organizer... - This guy doesn't know what he owns!
What does an organizer cost? 10$? Maybe 30$? I'll try to offer
him 30$ for his Organizer. ;-)

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On (No Date Available), hplxmail@yahoo.com wrote:

(You wrote this to me in private. I guess you ment to send it to the
list. I sent it to you and to the list.

> Martin Bergvill ably wrote:
> > http://www.mymobilestuff.com
>
> I went there with my Palmtop. What's there? It seems like some
> portal for PalmOS and PlamPC. None of the lines in "Content"
> is a link. What is this supposed to tell me?

I went there myself (for the first time) after I read your reply. The
Content link only lists the contents with no links.

Try the links for PalmOS. There it was a lot of links. I did not follow
them. Sorry I should have researched the site some more before posting
the link.

> BTW, that link is slower than molasses in the winter in
> Sweden.

I did not notice. I used a desktop computer. The list is very long.

> > where the opening screen says:
> >
> > "Is your handheld chained to you desktop?"
>
> Only on my desktop. on the Palmtop with HV, my HV dies and my
> machine dies, requiring a reboot.

Strange. I will try with Hv too..

> > What is it that you want to do on the Hplx that you can not? Do you
> > want to do as the "Avantgoers" do and download messages from the web to
> > the hplx?
>
> - I want to be able to get to news, without the millions of
> graphics.

While you are online or do you want to read stuff you downloaded offline?

> - I want to customize my own news view (optional!)

I do not understand what you mean. You want to choose what news you
want? Finance & top stories or just weather is it that what you mean?

> - I want access to uptodate stock information

Okey I see. Is it a page on the internet that has the info you need
without a lot of java and pictures and stuff like that?

> - I want to see Ebay - sometimes - low priority for me
> personally.

Somebody posted a text only link to Ebay here or am I wrong.

> - I want to see Amazon.com

Have you tried

http:/www.digitalpaths.net or .com

I have not tried it for a long time. But it used to work with HV. There
has been a discussion about this some time ago.

> This is my short list.
>
> > I did something like that some time ago using get.exe. I downloaded
> > pages that were built for Avantgo. I stored them in a dir on my Hplx
> > and then used HV to read them. It worked just fine. The "problem"/time
> > consuminbg part was finding the correct url for the pages.
>
> Show us please.

I will try to find the setup I used for this and post it here.

> > Avantgo will ofcourse not run on the Hplx, but how about a Avantgo/Lx?
>
> Is that a D&A product in the making?

I am not a programmer at D&A, but it would have been nice with such a
application would'nt it?

> Avantgo is jealous about
> their name, BTW.

They are?

> > What do you want such a application to do?
>
> See above my short list.

I see.

What I used Get.exe for was to download the same pages that Palm user
downloaded with Avantgo. I guess I could download all kinds of
Avantgopages as long as I had the url.

Then I had a index.htm page which I accessed offline with Hv.

The indexpage had links to the pages I dowmloaded. Something like this:

News:

Local news->Page1.htm, Page2.htm

Foreign news->Page3.htm,Page4.htm

I used get.exe to store specific webpages that had the same name from
day to day, but with new news every day. Then I just "clicked" with HV
to read the stories when I was offline.

The site I used had xx pages about this and xx pages about that. It was
easy to find how many pages was about local news and how many pages was
on foreign news. then I could make a nice index.htm with headers and
all.

I have them here somewhere. I will post them if I find them.

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On Tue,  1 May 2001 21:36:43 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote:


Hi Daniel

> > --- begin of forwarded message ---
> > ...
> > I'm selling my organiser since I bought a new one.
> > --- end of forwarded message ---
>
> Organizer... - This guy doesn't know what he owns!
> What does an organizer cost? 10$? Maybe 30$? I'll try to offer
> him 30$ for his Organizer. ;-)

Damn it..I should have noticed that.. :-)

Well I think I have enough of
these "oranizers" now. One main machine and two backups

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I just read in Liberation, a french newspaper, about an equivalent
for the Morphyone project (for french reading people, see
 http://www.liberation.fr/quotidien/semaine/20010430lunz.html )


What is interesting about the project, is not the computer itself,
unfortunately (StrongArm processor, touch screen, SmartCard storage...)
but the spirit :

The goal is to provide access to computer technologies to Indian people
(5 millions of computers for one billion of Indians), by making a -$200
computer using free ressources (Linux OS and a GPL-like license for the
hardware designed by Simputer).

More information about the project, created by Simputer, an Indian NGO
at :
       http://www.simputer.org/

I know that Morphyone guys are lurking on this list. Do they heard about
simputer ? Would be a sort of joint-venture with the Simputer makers
would be envisioned ?


Well, you begin to see the point :

We are all in different countries in the world, some of you must know in
your country one of those growing number of
alternative/non-merchandization networks...

If so, could we extend worldwide the spirit of the project, using those
networks to distribute both the Morphyone and the Simputer ?

Remember that a few months ago, we searched about a common project to
work together. Without any result....
But why would it be always a programming project ?


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Hello Steven and All,

I am using QuickenSE for Window$ (release 5.0a) and on the original install
cd I found the Dos version 6.0 (but I am not using it).
Both programs happily import my qif files created on the palmtop.

I have no idea about Connectivity Pack, I never used it.

BR  for all from  Lake Balaton, Georg

 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Date:    Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:47:36 -0700
>From:    "Steven (Casey) Karp" <skarp@WWC.COM>
>Subject: Converting PocketQuicken to Quicken4DOS
>
>OK, so I just inherited a copy of Quicken 8 for DOS.
>
>I've got about three years of data saved in my 200LX's PocketQuicken.
>
>I want to do a one-time conversion from the PocketQuicken to the desktop
>Quicken.
>
>----------snip------------
>
>Desktop Quicken does not read PocketQuicken data files, nor can I find a
>way to get it to import a QIF file.
>
>Anyone have any suggestions?  (And yes, I know the Connectivity Pack has a
>tool to do this, but no, I don't have the CP.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Martin Bergvill ably wrote:
> http://www.mymobilestuff.com

I went there with my Palmtop. What's there? It seems like some
portal for PalmOS and PlamPC. None of the lines in "Content"
is a link. What is this supposed to tell me?

BTW, that link is slower than molasses in the winter in
Sweden.

> where the opening screen says:
>
> "Is your handheld chained to you desktop?"

Only on my desktop. on the Palmtop with HV, my HV dies and my
machine dies, requiring a reboot.

> What is it that you want to do on the Hplx that you can not? Do you
> want to do as the "Avantgoers" do and download messages from the web to
> the hplx?

- I want to be able to get to news, without the millions of
graphics.

- I want to customize my own news view (optional!)

- I want access to uptodate stock information

- I want to see Ebay - sometimes - low priority for me
personally.

- I want to see Amazon.com

This is my short list.

> I did something like that some time ago using get.exe. I downloaded
> pages that were built for Avantgo. I stored them in a dir on my Hplx
> and then used HV to read them. It worked just fine. The "problem"/time
> consuminbg part was finding the correct url for the pages.

Show us please.

> Avantgo will ofcourse not run on the Hplx, but how about a Avantgo/Lx?

Is that a D&A product in the making? Avantgo is jealous about
their name, BTW.

> What do you want such a application to do?

See above my short list.

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Subject:      Re: Would you write this program routine?

Tamas,

Interesting post re. MP3 via serial port:-

>Of course if you want to play the quasi-standard 128k MP3 files,
>there is a need to push data faster through the serial port, which is
>officially max. 115,2kbit/sec.

What's the situation with DS-upgraded units - can they do 230.4, since the
basic clock frequency has been doubled?

>The guy suggested the following method: The 16450 has no FIFO,
>so you need to service an interrupt after every 8bit. It gives the
>opportunity to write 2 bits into the handshakes (he meant
>DTR and RTS?), effectively achiving 10bits/cycle. It would mean
>144000bits/sec, which is enough.

A clever idea to increase throughput. but that calculation doesn't include the
"framing" overhead with normal serial data.
At 115200 bits/sec, each byte sent is accompanied by a start and stop bit,
taking 10 bit-times altogether. You get 11520 BYTES/sec, or an *efffective*
bits/sec of 92160. Even using the 2 handshake bits as described, the effective
bit rate can only be pushed back to 115200/sec. It's just not enough :-)

Maybe you could ignore standard serial transmission, and use the two handshake
lines at "clock" and "data" lines to implement a 'synchronous' serial port.
I'm wary of the amount of battery drain produced by sustained generation of
high-speed RS232 signals...

Perhaps a custom high-speed IR protocol could be devised - does anyone know
how short a pulse the IR transmitter can handle?

PCMCIA card, with byte-wide transfer to an I/O port would be best, but then
you couldn't access large MP3 files, stored on Flash-card? Maybe have a PCMCIA
card with MP3 circuitry, plus a CF-slot...
Tamas - what kind of DSP is this guy's MP3 module based on?

The LX's 80186 is always going to need some kind of hardware-assistance to do
something as intensive as MP3 decoding - ideally it would be possible to
download different programs to the DSP, so it could perform other sound-
generation functions. IBM used this approach with their "M-Wave" modem/sound
cards, some years ago.

- Mark.
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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 03:37:45 +0000
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> woefully inadequate Handspring).  I'm surprized there aren't some decent
> pdb, ndb, etc. synch packages out there that take advantage of this.
> There's gotta be a demand for this ...  as a programmer, I'm tempted ...


This group would CHEER you on for creating a syncing program - DEMAND is
not an issue - supply has always been the issue!!!!!!!  The HP200 had
started to fade from the pop personality charts when syncing became the
issue it now is.  The early "attempters" (Intellisync and others) moved
to the newer devices.

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Date:         Tue, 1 May 2001 21:06:40 -0700
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Hello Folks:

For those of you who do not have WWW/LX yet, here is an
unusual opportunity to get one, but there is an interesting
catch! :-) I found 5 licenses for WWW/LX Version 2 - the
previous version. We will seel these copies at $15 each!

Conditions: (The "catch")

1. These are licenses for a NON CURRENT VERSION of WWW/LX.
Many people still use it and are happy with Version 2.
(Available on our FTP Site as WWW21.EXE, HV22.EXE, POST22.EXE
- which contains the obsolete News/LX. RoboNews/LX will NOT
work with this version.)

2. This is not supported - sorry. We will not support this
version.

3. Buyer pays to ship the diskette and the License
Certificate. You can forget the diskette because the last
WWW/LX Version 2 is still downloadable from our Web site.

4. Shipping: License Certificate and Diskette will be shipped by
Priority Mail $5.00 ($9.00 Outside USA). If you don't care
about the diskette, then mail is $1.00 ($3.00 outside USA).
You will need the Certificate for the USERNAME and
REGISTRATION ID to activate WWW/LX Version 2.

Now to sweeten this offer: if you decide to upgrade to WWW/LX
Version 3, the current version, I will ask you to join our
mailing list, peruse its archives for an offer to upgrade and
follow it to the letter please. This upgrade offer is not
available or published anywhere - only on the mailing list! So
I'll leave the carrot dangling here <g>...

Second sweetener: if you buy one of these 5 copies, then
decide to upgrade based on the upgrade offer on the mailing
list (if still in force) you will receive credit for the
purchase price mentioned above, i.e. $15.00 off the upgrade
price which you will have to find in the mailing list
archives. <G> Remaining copies will be destroyed on May 15,
2001 midnight if not purchased (Pacific Time for those of you
who wonder! <g>)

Let me summarize:

Available: 5 WWW/LX Version 2 copies, at $15 each. Product is
unsupported, but COMPLETELY FUNCTIONAL. Upgrade available only
to those who are in the mailing list. Buyer pays shipping:
Diskette and License Certificate - $5.00 ($9.00 outside USA).
License Certificate only - $1.00 ($3.00 outside USA). When
upgrading one of these licenses, you'll get $15.00 credit, in
addition to the low upgrade price. Any remaining copies will
be destroyed at midnight on May 15, 2001. I will acknowledge
to you in email when I get your order. Shipping will take
between now and May 4, and after May 11. Visa or Master Cards
only. Amex extracts too much from us on such small amounts,
sorry.

Email me directly if you have questions.

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 00:06:59 -0400
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Martin Bergvill ably wrote:

> Try the links for PalmOS. There it was a lot of links. I did not follow

Ah, good. I did not try them because I thought they would be "foreign language"
(WML) to the Palmtop.

> While you are online or do you want to read stuff you downloaded offline?

Both, but mostly online.

> I do not understand what you mean. You want to choose what news you > want?
> Finance & top stories or just weather is it that what you mean?

Yes, being able to set up _something_ that will grab news from two sources,
grab stock info, grab the 5 cities I need weather for, grab some other info I
need and will specify, then put it on the screen for me to see.

I know I can go to this site for this piece of info, and that site for some
other info, and so on, but that's a waste of my time. I have a super capable
machine in my hands that so far has nearly everything I need, and I want to
push it to do more for me.

> Okey I see. Is it a page on the internet that has the info you need
> without a lot of java and pictures and stuff like that?

Yes.

> Somebody posted a text only link to Ebay here or am I wrong.

As I said above: I know several hundred links etc...

Example:

news-information-here-headlines, each story with links to full text
another headline, with a link to full story
more headlines like this

weather info in city A
weather info in city B
weather info in city C
weather info in city d
weather info in city e

stockA information line: whatever stats I require. Links to main stories about
the stock.
stockB information line: whatever stats I require. Links to main stories about
the stock.

etc...

Box to enter amazon.com search item
Box to enter Ebay search item
Box to search Google.com or whatever search engine you favor

This kind of page would be ideal IMHO. Best if it is built on the fly from my
requirements.

> http:/www.digitalpaths.net or .com

As I said above, I have several hundred URLs etc...

> I will try to find the setup I used for this and post it here.

This was re GET: Thanks.

> I am not a programmer at D&A, but it would have been nice with such a
> application would'nt it?

Yes, it would be a great application. If they can come up with this sort of
product that will help me paint even a rudimentary page based on my interests
and needs, I will pay for it.

> They are?

They will likely give D&A a hard time if they called their product Avantgo/LX.

> What I used Get.exe for was to download the same pages that Palm user
> downloaded with Avantgo. I guess I could download all kinds of
> Avantgopages as long as I had the url.
>
> Then I had a index.htm page which I accessed offline with Hv.

Yes, this will go a loooong way towards meeting my needs!

Where I see the space for D&A is in building more specific pages from all that
GET input, which directly has the info, not just the links to the full pages
downloaded by GET. Also, these would be built from some set of requirements
which I would encode ahead of time. These requirements will be translated to
GET URLs and then the page I want to see will be built from info GET will
download.

I think it is VERY demanding. i am no longer apologetic about being demanding.
Everytime I thought the limit was reached, D&A or someone else blazes right
past these limits like they were thinner than paper! :-)

   Joe


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Date:         Tue, 1 May 2001 22:25:16 -0700
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Someone pointed out:

Use the order form http://www.dasoft.com/orderfrm.htm I just
updated it to add the special items and please add shipping.
If you get no acknowledgement - your order is not in, or not
complete!

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 15:22:28 +0200
Reply-To:     Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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look at www.conduits.com/ce/apps/copilot.asp

Corso, Tony wrote:
> There is a Palm emulator for CE? where is it?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 08:52:14 -0500
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> Wats this about JAZZ and ZIP disks?
> Why, Why aren't peeople using SUPERDISK?
> Same kapacity but backward kompatable
> to regular floppies.

Zip disks are a sort of standard.  A lot of people I know use
them so if I want to copy something from my computer to theirs,
or if they have something I want to take home, Zip disks are
often an easy way to do it.  I don't think you can do that with
anything else.

But Zip disks are getting too small to be so useful now and I
suspect they'll go the way of the SuperDisk before long.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 07:50:39 -0600
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As all us DOS program users know, it's not that Zip disks are too small,
it's that programs nowadays are too big <g>.

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<snip>
But Zip disks are getting too small to be so useful now and I
suspect they'll go the way of the SuperDisk before long.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 09:11:47 -0500
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> A clever idea to increase throughput. but that calculation
> doesn't include the "framing" overhead with normal serial
data.
> At 115200 bits/sec, each byte sent is accompanied by a start
> and stop bit, taking 10 bit-times altogether. You get 11520
> BYTES/sec, or an *efffective* bits/sec of 92160. Even using
> the 2 handshake bits as described, the effective bit rate can
> only be pushed back to 115200/sec. It's just not enough :-)

I'm a little out of my league here, knowing little about
hardware, except as a programmer.  But where does the uart get
it's timing pulse?  Is there something internal to it that
provides that?  And if so, can it be changed?  Or does it come
from the system timer, which I know can be changed.

Are there any possibilities here?

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 09:23:57 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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I've been meaning to post this, so before I forget, let me do so.

I recently encountered a problem with my C program that appeared to be
a pointer problem.  From past experience, I know these can be hard to
track down, and what can be helpful is a utility called "lint".  This
reviews your C code, and points out all sorts of potential errors.
This utility is fairly common in the Unix world, less so in the PC
world.

After a little research, I found that one of the most popular PC lint
programs is by a company called Gimpbel Software.  I contacted them,
and they still had a version that would run in plain DOS, so I can
use it on my palmtop.  It isn't their latest version, but it isn't
so old that you would miss any features (many of the newer features
are aimed at C++ source code, which I don't use on my palmtop).

So, I can report that Gimpbel's PC lint works on my palmtop.  This
product is probably only useful for very serious programmers. From
my experience, you can go for years without using lint, but when you
need it, you need it bad!  Be prepared for sticker shock - the price
is over US$200.

Also, let me give the usual disclaimer - I have no interest in Gimpbel
company, just a customer.  Thought this report of another successful
type of software running on the 200LX would be of interest to some of
you programmers out there.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 16:57:35 +0200
Reply-To:     Feher Tamas <etomcat@2FKFT.COM>
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Hello web-surfing palmtoppers,

Seems like Altavista text-only search now works solely from
<www.raging.com>.

Previously it was at <www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?text> and raging
had a slightly different user interface.

BTW, Google.com is getting better every day. They finally dropped the
irritating "intelligent search term omission" technology, which
required you to precede every single word with a + to get sensible
results. They still try to filter out duplicate findings.  Yet, I
recommend it.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 17:02:58 +0200
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Hello,

Look here and decide if you want to stock up spare 100/200LX CPU's,
because after Nov 15th, 2001, you cannot order any more:
<http://developer.intel.com/design/pcn/Processors/D0001045.pdf>

I guess this may be of interest for a few people, like Mack; but not
for the general public.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 09:59:16 -0500
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Feher Tamas wrote:
>
> BTW, Google.com is getting better every day. They finally dropped the
> irritating "intelligent search term omission" technology, which
> required you to precede every single word with a + to get sensible
> results. They still try to filter out duplicate findings.  Yet, I
> recommend it.
>
The best part about Google is that they have brought back the old
usenet postings all the way back to 1995 now. It is much more
useful for looking up information on all that old computer
hardware that I have. Bryan

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 09:09:33 -0600
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I'm using a HP JORNADA 720 with Sprint-based modem card
(www.sierrawireless.com); the modem/service (when it works,
which is usually) claims 14400 bps link speed (19200 bps
port speed). The catch is that the sprint network has a
great deal of turn-around lag (html request->reply in web
browsing activity) (it's not just the sierra card; my
motorola timeport phone on the same service has the same
issue.)

Anyway, the reason I'm posting this is that I think there
would really be benefit to me (and probably other mobile
users) for some kind of web server intermediary which would
take your requested URL, transact with the specified service,
gather the reply data, and once all of the traffic is done
(somehow netscape figures out when a page is "done" so this
must be rather straightforward to detect), send the entire
resulting page back as HTML to the requesting client in a
single transmission (or at least in a sequence of transmissions
that minimizes this turn-around lag problem.)

All of that said, has anyone here heard of such a thing
(I think you'd call it some kind of personal caching server,
but I'm not sure...)?

Dave wb0gaz@hotmail.com



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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 09:14:34 -0500
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Hello!

After all the positive things I'e read here about the Jornada 720, I'm debating whether to get one.
It seems most everything I want will run under Pocket DOS or XT-CE. The Jornada 720 seems to be
about $1000, which is steep but I'm sure will be coming down. Is anyone seeing any deals on the 720
anywhere? Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 11:31:38 -0400
Reply-To:     Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Some kind of caching server to deal with turn-around lag?
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I'm pretty sure you are describing some of what a http proxy server does.
They perform the entire http transaction for you and then ship it to your
browser. You have to be using a brower that supports http proxies, tho.


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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:10 AM
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Subject: Some kind of caching server to deal with turn-around lag?


I'm using a HP JORNADA 720 with Sprint-based modem card
(www.sierrawireless.com); the modem/service (when it works,
which is usually) claims 14400 bps link speed (19200 bps
port speed). The catch is that the sprint network has a
great deal of turn-around lag (html request->reply in web
browsing activity) (it's not just the sierra card; my
motorola timeport phone on the same service has the same
issue.)

Anyway, the reason I'm posting this is that I think there
would really be benefit to me (and probably other mobile
users) for some kind of web server intermediary which would
take your requested URL, transact with the specified service,
gather the reply data, and once all of the traffic is done
(somehow netscape figures out when a page is "done" so this
must be rather straightforward to detect), send the entire
resulting page back as HTML to the requesting client in a
single transmission (or at least in a sequence of transmissions
that minimizes this turn-around lag problem.)

All of that said, has anyone here heard of such a thing
(I think you'd call it some kind of personal caching server,
but I'm not sure...)?

Dave wb0gaz@hotmail.com



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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 10:13:43 -0600
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Interesting... I am not sure that "proxy server" is the matter,
however, I did a search and found the notion of "proxy cache"
and a reference to "squid". It appears that squid is designed to
reduce re-fetching of frequently accessed page items, which is
something along the lines of what I am intersted in, however, I
still have the idea that a the core problem is just to reduce
the impact of pages (such as this one - hotmail.com) which are
encoded to cause so many back-and-forth small transfers.

Anyway, thanx for the idea, and perhaps someone else has encountered
this (communications lag) issue and can comment further, or suggest
a more appropriate venue (I realize this is for HP LX machines which
isn't even my Jornada, but I suspect a solution to this would benefit
users of the limited-resource machines, particularly in mobile use.)

Dave


>From: Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
>Reply-To: Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: Some kind of caching server to deal with turn-around lag?
>Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:31:38 -0400
>
>I'm pretty sure you are describing some of what a http proxy server does.
>They perform the entire http transaction for you and then ship it to your
>browser. You have to be using a brower that supports http proxies, tho.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.eduOn Behalf Of
>david feldman
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:10 AM
>To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
>Subject: Some kind of caching server to deal with turn-around lag?
>
>
>I'm using a HP JORNADA 720 with Sprint-based modem card
>(www.sierrawireless.com); the modem/service (when it works,
>which is usually) claims 14400 bps link speed (19200 bps
>port speed). The catch is that the sprint network has a
>great deal of turn-around lag (html request->reply in web
>browsing activity) (it's not just the sierra card; my
>motorola timeport phone on the same service has the same
>issue.)
>
>Anyway, the reason I'm posting this is that I think there
>would really be benefit to me (and probably other mobile
>users) for some kind of web server intermediary which would
>take your requested URL, transact with the specified service,
>gather the reply data, and once all of the traffic is done
>(somehow netscape figures out when a page is "done" so this
>must be rather straightforward to detect), send the entire
>resulting page back as HTML to the requesting client in a
>single transmission (or at least in a sequence of transmissions
>that minimizes this turn-around lag problem.)
>
>All of that said, has anyone here heard of such a thing
>(I think you'd call it some kind of personal caching server,
>but I'm not sure...)?
>
>Dave wb0gaz@hotmail.com
>
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Hi,

I think I have found an easy group project which would
be interesting, and easy (although, time consuming).
I have noticed that many of the Web sites dedicated to
the HP 200lx are abandoned, with many broken links,
missing images, etc.
My idea is to collect all this valuable information
before it ends up being lost.
We could then save all the information (Web sites,
FAQs, etc.) and all the useful programs in a CD. That
way all this knowledge will not be lost. Think of it
as an HP 200lx Galactic Encyclopedia in like in Isaac
Asimov's Foundation Trilogy! ;)
Of course all data should be cataloged and easily
accesible from an index Web page.
Is anybody interested?


Cheers,

Inigo

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Date:         Wed, 2 May 2001 16:03:05 -0400
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I've tried to run the C-pack on the 720 under pocket dos, and it does not
run. Also the speed of pocket dos is no better than a DS 200LX. I haven't
had time to try XT-CE. Also, there are very few applications written
for the StrongArm processor. So in terms of apps, it's the apps on ROM, i.e.
MS office pocket apps, the few apps that have been written, and anything
that you can write yourself. Oh yes, some dos apps that don't require
much horsepower will run. I haven't decided how or if I am going to write
my apps on the 720. I have NSBasic, but it's a scripted language, it doesn't
compile. I run quickbasic under pocket dos, but it can take 4 hours to get
through my scans. My libretto does it in just a few minutes.

As for cost, I found mine on Ebay. You can probably get it in the $700 to
$800 price range.

Mike...

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> Subject: FLUFF: HP Jornada 720
>
>
> Hello!
>
> After all the positive things I'e read here about the Jornada
> 720, I'm debating whether to get one.
> It seems most everything I want will run under Pocket DOS or
> XT-CE. The Jornada 720 seems to be
> about $1000, which is steep but I'm sure will be coming down. Is
> anyone seeing any deals on the 720
> anywhere? Thanks in advance.
>
> Best Regards,
> Tom Salwasser
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I used a program called Pocket C when I had my Nino palm device. It was a
pretty capable language. I think it did compile to a psuedo-code-type file
that needs a runtime lib. Kinda like qb45.

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I've tried to run the C-pack on the 720 under pocket dos, and it does not
run. Also the speed of pocket dos is no better than a DS 200LX. I haven't
had time to try XT-CE. Also, there are very few applications written
for the StrongArm processor. So in terms of apps, it's the apps on ROM, i.e.
MS office pocket apps, the few apps that have been written, and anything
that you can write yourself. Oh yes, some dos apps that don't require
much horsepower will run. I haven't decided how or if I am going to write
my apps on the 720. I have NSBasic, but it's a scripted language, it doesn't
compile. I run quickbasic under pocket dos, but it can take 4 hours to get
through my scans. My libretto does it in just a few minutes.

As for cost, I found mine on Ebay. You can probably get it in the $700 to
$800 price range.

Mike...

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> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:15 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: FLUFF: HP Jornada 720
>
>
> Hello!
>
> After all the positive things I'e read here about the Jornada
> 720, I'm debating whether to get one.
> It seems most everything I want will run under Pocket DOS or
> XT-CE. The Jornada 720 seems to be
> about $1000, which is steep but I'm sure will be coming down. Is
> anyone seeing any deals on the 720
> anywhere? Thanks in advance.
>
> Best Regards,
> Tom Salwasser
>
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> I've tried to run the C-pack on the 720 under pocket dos, and it does not
> run. Also the speed of pocket dos is no better than a DS 200LX. I haven't

I see a hole in the market here. It seems that there is a big need for
efficient
PC emulator for CE based machines.
What do you think about writing one?
It should not interpret x86 instructions, but compile them, to loose
a minimum power only.

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You're right, there's a hole. There's a big hole. I honestly believe
MS finally has it almost right... but all the developers have drifted
away.

I say almost right, because you still require a desktop to install
programs.

I don't have the knowledge to write an emulator... heck, I had a hard
time with C. Pointers and all. Yech. They say Java 2 has fixed that problem,
and the 720 will run Java apps, but that's as far as I've gotten.

What we really need, in my humble opinion, is a program like quickbasic
that will run on the desktop, the 200LX and on the J720. Anyone game to
write that?

Mike...

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> Grzegorz Wroblewski
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 4:33 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: FLUFF: HP Jornada 720
>
> I see a hole in the market here. It seems that there is a big need for
> efficient PC emulator for CE based machines.
> What do you think about writing one?
> It should not interpret x86 instructions, but compile them, to loose
> a minimum power only.
>

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"M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" wrote:

> I have noticed that many of the Web sites dedicated to
> the HP 200lx are abandoned, with many broken links,
> missing images, etc.
> My idea is to collect all this valuable information
> before it ends up being lost.
> We could then save all the information (Web sites,
> FAQs, etc.) and all the useful programs in a CD.

Isn't that what the Thaddeus infobase is trying to accomplish?

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On Wed,  2 May 2001 00:06:59 -0400, Joe H. Smith wrote:
> Martin Bergvill ably wrote:
> Ah, good. I did not try them because I thought they would be "foreign language"
> (WML) to the Palmtop.

I see. The link was actually supposed to be http://www.mo../handheld.asp

> > While you are online or do you want to read stuff you downloaded offline?
> Both, but mostly online.

I wanted to read stuff when I got offline. But you could create
index.htm file with the links to the pages you want to access Onlinetoo

> Yes, being able to set up _something_ that will grab news from two sources,
> grab stock info, grab the 5 cities I need weather for, grab some other info I
> need and will specify, then put it on the screen for me to see.

This is what I do. It does not put it directly on the screen. But I
could access the pages from my "menu" index.htm

This is in my post.cfg:
EXTERNAL
&Get=e:\w\get.exe get.dat &f

Then my get.dat file (shorten some):

http://www.dagbladet.no/palm/sak1.html e:\w\html\sak1.htm
http://www.dagbladet.no/palm/sak2.html e:\w\html\sak2.htm
http://www.aftenposten.no/mobil/palm/Nyhet1.htm e:\w\html\sak35.htm
http://www.aftenposten.no/mobil/palm/Nyhet2.htm e:\w\html\sak36.htm
http://www.tv3.no/programmer.asp e:\w\html\tv3.htm

Then I have created a very simple index.htm where I can press the links
"Sak1" Sak2" "Sak3" "Sak4" and so on. ("Sak1"="Newsstory1" and so on.)

Should not be a problem to find url's to the info you want(you have
already done that) and then create a get.dat file with that info. And
then create a standard index.htm to access those pages you downloaded.

> I know I can go to this site for this piece of info, and that site for some
> other info, and so on, but that's a waste of my time.

Yes. The Get thingy I did took some time. But it resulted in less time
online. And it was automated. (That was the real benefit)

> I have a super capable machine

You sure do and it _can_ do more! :-)

> > Okey I see. Is it a page on the internet that has the info you need
> Yes.

Then you should not have a problem.

> Example:
> news-information-here-headlines, each story with links to full text
> another headline, with a link to full story
> more headlines like this
>
> weather info in city A
> weather info in city B

Looks like my index.htm file. I can mail it to you if you want to have
a look. (Reread what you write and I understand what you mean now.)

If the url's to the info you need changes all the time then that is a
problem. But if the url's are static then my approach should be fine.

> This kind of page would be ideal IMHO. Best if it is built on the fly from my
> requirements.

Okey a automated index.htm creation tool?

> Yes, it would be a great application. If they can come up with this sort of
> product that will help me paint even a rudimentary page based on my interests
> and needs, I will pay for it.

If D&A or anyone else decides to build such a application what are you
willing to pay for it? The info are there on the internet, what you
need is a intelligetn "harvester"? :-)

> They will likely give D&A a hard time if they called their product Avantgo/LX.

Ah I see. Yes I do not think that they would like the name Avantgo/Lx.

> > Then I had a index.htm page which I accessed offline with Hv.
>
> Yes, this will go a loooong way towards meeting my needs!

Download get.exe from D&A.Insert your links into the get.dat file. Then
create your a index.htm/menu file and you are almost there.

> Where I see the space for D&A is in building more specific pages from all that
> GET input,

So a automatic creation of a index page is what you want?

> which directly has the info, not just the links to the full pages
> downloaded by GET.

So you want "fresh" links in the automatic created index page?:
"Weather for Narvik 03.05.01 push here"
"Nasdaq down 600 points today 03.05.01 press here"

> Also, these would be built from some set of requirements
> which I would encode ahead of time. These requirements will be translated to
> GET URLs and then the page I want to see will be built from info GET will
> download.

So one day you want weatherforecast for City A and B, but the next day
only for City C? More advanced than that?

> I think it is VERY demanding. i am no longer apologetic about being demanding.
> Everytime I thought the limit was reached, D&A or someone else blazes right
> past these limits like they were thinner than paper! :-)

It should be possible to create such a application.

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Date:         Thu, 3 May 2001 11:28:31 +0200
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Hi everyone :-)

First a BIG thank you to all who have responded (direct and via the list)
with valuable input to my recent questions regarding my 95LX, your thoughts
and suggestions were very informative.

At this stage it seems (especially with the addition of extra SRAM memory)
as though I will be staying with the 95.  With the release of ACT! 1.1.1
into the public domain I have been experimenting with the application for my
contact management needs as an alternative to my customised approach using
the built in apps + 'enhancements' (Buddy; Notepad; Macro's; etc.) and
although there are several 'quirks' with the application it does seem to
have the ability to do the job.  Just a pity that it only runs as a DOS
program. i.e. Whilst active unable to open built in apps. :-(   My question
this time is to ask if anyone knows of an archive or can offer insight
relating to ACT! (on the palmtop)?  I located (and have downloaded) a number
of articles and FAQ's but regrettably all relate to version 2 or higher.
What I am trying to do is accelerate my learning curve in using the
application (and customising at the same time) as it is impractical to run
both ACT! and my existing systems concurrently (guess this is ANOTHER
limitation of staying with the 95?).  I have already made considerable
progress in using ACT! and have developed a couple of 'work arounds for what
seem to be 'bugs' in the program that I know will never be addressed e.g.
Field #7 label is missing from screen and printed reports; Field #54 will
only accept typical email address length if previously filled with a 'long
dummy via the F2 key etc.

Thanks in advance to everyone and till the next time, KEEP SMILING :-)

Nigel R in sunny South Africa

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Hello,

I found a device by SMCA called Barricade, which provides this
functionality for SOHO:

Firewall, VPN, NAT, DHCP, Modem share, Printserver, Ethernet switch

The interesting thing is that it all runs on a 40MHz 80186 CPU with
512KB RAM. Its USNET OS is made by USSW Corp. Although I wouldn't
recommed it for security and it certainly has performance problems
doing all these the same time, the feature list is impressive.

I wonder if our LX could run USNET either natively or on top of DOS
and become a firewall for ISDN/V.90, or be a high-traffic webserver?
They have PCMCIA ethernet support.

USSW also has a highly optimized standard real mode C compiler with
XIP support and they are working on a full C++ version. Apparently the
200LX can survive long if we pay close attention to SW offerings for
the embedded systems market and catch the ones which we can use.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo <imazagra@YAHOO.COM> wrote
>>...an easy group project...save all the information (Web sites, FAQs,
etc.) and all the useful programs in a CD.<<

Please feel free to spend some time at  www.PalmtopPaper.com

Note especially the 2000 CD InfoBase. It does what you want.

Trust me, collecting 10 years worth of info and programs about and for the
HP LX was not easy. It would be impossible to reconstruct that knowledge
base nowadays.

BTW, Hal has just shipped the latest catalog. The web site's shopping cart
is in the process of being updated to reflect the changes since the last
catalog. There have been no new articles contributed for the past several
months.

.ed.
Ed Keefe (former editor of The HP Palmtop and Web master of
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Has ACT! 1.1.1 been released into the public domain ?
Where can it be found ?

thanks

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Hi everyone :-)

<SNIP>
At this stage it seems (especially with the addition of extra SRAM memory)
as though I will be staying with the 95.  With the release of ACT! 1.1.1
into the public domain I have been experimenting with the application for my
contact management needs as an alternative to my customised approach using
<SNIP>

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Date:         Thu, 3 May 2001 08:01:28 -0700
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Hello Folks:

Well, 4 of 5 licenses were snapped up in less than 24 hours!
The fifth was taken yesterday afternoon. I have to say I am
amazed! I began searching every nook and cranny for any
leftover older versions, just in case. If I find any, I'll
announce them again.

The response tells me that there is a demand for online
software. This means that the Palmtop is still KING!!! <VBG>

Meanwhile, each of you please make it a personal mission:

- Recruit one Palmtopper each six month to join HPLX!

- Recruit one NEW person to the world of HP 200LX!

There _are_ machines out there, and if we have a vibrant
community, more will be found, as well as replacement parts
made.

People complain about the price: almost $500 between software
and hardware. But look what you get: Not only an organizer,
not only a notebook, not just a quickie database - but also
multiple "faces" with SC, email, limited browsing, a powerful
reference book and tool, a bookreader (VR), a companion to
show you pictures of loved ones (LXPIC), accounting-on-the-go,
spreadsheet - and so on. And it runs for a week on two AA
batteries. So price is no excuse! I just convinced someone
using exactly these arguments!

Thank you all for the response and support over the years.

Al the best!

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
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Date:         Thu, 3 May 2001 17:07:22 +0200
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Hi friends,

is there a maximum of
1. number of categories or
2. characters for all categories

in the phone book?

I tried to add a category today and the phone book simply ignores my
input.
How can I change the name of a category without having to enter all
entries belonging to that category anew?

I have 26 categories now.

TNX
daniel

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I found the ACT! 1.1.1 files at the Symantec site
http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/cgi-bin/cmenu.cgi?URL=%2Ftechsupp%2Ffiles%2
Fact%2Factpalm.html&x=48&y=9

Hope this helps!

All the best from Nigel R and remember, KEEP SMILING :-)
<snip>


> Has ACT! 1.1.1 been released into the public domain ?
> Where can it be found ?
>
> thanks

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Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> asked about categories in the database
apps (e.g., PhoneBook)

There is only one pull-down, category structure. The maximum number of
categories depends on the number of characters in all the names. You can
have up to 32 names of categories but the total number of characters in all
the names must be less than 256,

.ed.

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> How can I change the name of a category without having to enter all
> entries belonging to that category anew?

It 's easy if you are familiar with system macro.
1. Create a subset including the category's name that you want to change
2. Goto that subset
3. Use system macro
Before prepare a system macro that:
    -open the entry
    -goto category section
    -delete the related name
    -write the new category's name
    -save it
    Chain this macro toitself so that within the subset it  repeats itself
till the last entry.
Hope it helps
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Mike Schneider wrote:
> What we really need, in my humble opinion, is a
> program like quickbasic that will run on the desktop,
> the 200LX and on the J720. Anyone game to write
> that?

I've seen a few small basic interpreters written in C that come
with source code.  It might not be too difficult to make one of
those compile under MSVC with the PocketPC extensions installed.
I think I read that those are now freely downloadable.

I think I can probably find a few of these basics if someone is
interested in doing it.  I have MSVC but I don't have the
extensions and I don't have a PocketPC device and don't want to
spend the time needed to learn to program it.

I suspect that none of these will have the capability of
QuickBasic.  They'll be interpreters, not compilers.  Probably
most will have integer-only math.  But maybe not all.  I'm not
sure.  And there probably won't be much support for sound or
graphics.  Although it might not be difficult to add that,
depending on the system calls provided by PocketPC.

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Hi Folks,

I have ALREADY sold all the old copies I had found on the 1st.
They were sold in almost 24 hours, with last one the next
afternoon.

But after that the orders started coming. I now have 5
ADDITIONAL orders for old versions. Initiated a search in old
storage boxes for anything left about - little hope, but
maybe.

Also wrote to three of our largest customers who bought
licenses in bulk. One said he is almost 100% he has some old
one which he would be happy to sell back to me. We still need
to negotiate these terms once he finds the old licenses.

This is so strange, and so GRATIFYING! <g>

So if any of you wants an old license at extraordinary
discounts, put your order in. I cannot guarantee the price
now, since I do not know IF that customer has any copies, and
if so, HOW MUCH they will want for it, and other expenses of
that transaction, if any. I'll let you all know here.

Is the HP 200LX KING or what?! <G>

  Avi M. D&A
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> This is in my post.cfg:
> EXTERNAL
> &Get=3De:\w\get.exe get.dat &f
>
> Then my get.dat file (shorten some):
>
> http://www.dagbladet.no/palm/sak1.html e:\w\html\sak1.htm
> http://www.dagbladet.no/palm/sak2.html e:\w\html\sak2.htm
> http://www.aftenposten.no/mobil/palm/Nyhet1.htm e:\w\html\sak35.htm
> http://www.aftenposten.no/mobil/palm/Nyhet2.htm e:\w\html\sak36.htm
> http://www.tv3.no/programmer.asp e:\w\html\tv3.htm

I used to download newsclips of different categories (topnews,
business, scientific and tech news) from Yahoo! :

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ts/
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/bs/summary.html
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/tc/
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/sc/

There is more there like sports and politics I think.

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> Also wrote to three of our largest customers who bought
> licenses in bulk. One said he is almost 100% he has some old
> one which he would be happy to sell back to me. We still need
> to negotiate these terms once he finds the old licenses.

Avi:

I can understand your enthusiasm, but I am confused about something.
We're talking about "licenses" to a program that is essentially an
electronically stored computer file.  Assuming you have rudimentary
archives, wouldn't it be possible to sell and license as many "old"
versions of WWW/LX as you so desire?  Perhaps you have run out of
printed manuals, or official floppy labels, but all this talk about
searching for old copies has me baffled.

-Chris Lott (happy WWW/LX owner and D&A customer)


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> I can understand your enthusiasm, but I am confused about something.
> We're talking about "licenses" to a program that is essentially an
> electronically stored computer file.  Assuming you have rudimentary
> archives, wouldn't it be possible to sell and license as many "old"
> versions of WWW/LX as you so desire?  Perhaps you have run out of
> printed manuals, or official floppy labels, but all this talk about
> searching for old copies has me baffled.

I don't know if Avi will respond on this forum, but I'd hazard a guess that
his earlier remarks several months ago indicated that defined "licensed
copies" of a product have a special meaning for tax, insurance and business
purposes.

Otherwise, they could conceivably give away as many copies as they can
make, and declare several million dollars in donations (for example).

If a business has a defined product (ie, one that doesn't multiply under
the covers), it has defined assets and liabilities for which it can broker
loans and declare losses against.

But if a business merely prints (or duplicates) more copies of its assets
whenever it's convenient for them (or their customers), their asset becomes
like play money to the bank.

Take this explanation with a grain of salt ... I never took an economics
class.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Hansen" <n2vip@bellatlantic.net>
To: "D&A Software Support" <info@DASOFT.COM>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Old WWW/LX Versions


> As the *first* person to take advantage of this offer, let me shed some
> light on the decision process (for me):
>
> I have 1 100LX and a 200LX, both sitting relatively idle.
>
> I used to read email on the Palm, but found the square screen and poking
the
> screen to be sub-optimal.
>
> I have been on the fence for a long time about buying the www/lx software
> package, but the cost exceeded my "whim" threshold, by a factor of about
4.
>
> The offer Avi offered was too good to pass up - a complete, basic version
of
> www/lx for $15, that fits my whim threshold nicely (thank you), and the
100
> percent refund on a discounted upgrade was too good to pass up.
>
> As for the recent follow-up post, there is a huge difference between the
> software and the license associated with it. Posession of the executable,
> does not constitute a license to use the software.
>
> Only the owner of the software can offer licenses to the software, or they
> may designate someone to take over that function. I assume that the
> arrangement Avi had with the original author either were limited to a set
> number of copies (doubtful) or had an end-date (most likely). The licenses
> that were generated/created before that final date, can still be sold by
Avi
> under the old agreement (I assume). The author(s) are probably more
> interested in selling the current version, not the last one. Avi is
selling
> actual surplus software, not licenses he made up in his bedroom last
night.
>
> HTH,
>
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D&A Software Support" <info@DASOFT.COM>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 3:34 PM
> Subject: Old WWW/LX Versions
>
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I have ALREADY sold all the old copies I had found on the 1st.
> > They were sold in almost 24 hours, with last one the next
> > afternoon.
> >
> > But after that the orders started coming. I now have 5
> > ADDITIONAL orders for old versions. Initiated a search in old
> > storage boxes for anything left about - little hope, but
> > maybe.
> >
> > Also wrote to three of our largest customers who bought
> > licenses in bulk. One said he is almost 100% he has some old
> > one which he would be happy to sell back to me. We still need
> > to negotiate these terms once he finds the old licenses.
> >
> > This is so strange, and so GRATIFYING! <g>
> >
> > So if any of you wants an old license at extraordinary
> > discounts, put your order in. I cannot guarantee the price
> > now, since I do not know IF that customer has any copies, and
> > if so, HOW MUCH they will want for it, and other expenses of
> > that transaction, if any. I'll let you all know here.
> >
> > Is the HP 200LX KING or what?! <G>
> >
> >   Avi M. D&A
> >   http://www.dasoft.com
> >
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For Sale

HP200LX, 32MB, Double Speed,   (It's one of my backups, so it's in like new
condition.)
AC adapter
Serial cable
Case,
Light.

Selling entire package for $500.00 plus shipping in the US only.
UPS/COD/Cashiers check

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Hi Bulent,

On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:37:03 +0300, "Bulent Bicioglu" <bulentbicioglu@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It 's easy if you are familiar with system macro.
> 1. Create a subset including the category's name that you want to change
> 2. Goto that subset
> 3. Use system macro

But that only works if every entry in the subset is assigned to ONLY
ONE category, right? If there are more categories, all will be deleted
from the field. Or am I missing something?

GTX
daniel

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Hi Ed,

On Thu, 3 May 2001 10:36:06 -0500, Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET> wrote:

> There is only one pull-down, category structure. The maximum number of
> categories depends on the number of characters in all the names. You can
> have up to 32 names of categories but the total number of characters in all
> the names must be less than 256,

Thanks for that info. I suspected something like that. :-(
Now I'll have to shorten the category names...

GTX
daniel

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hello,

I know this question has beeb answered before on this list, but I am on
the road in the moment and I have very little resources to look for the
answer myself. I am sure somebody can help me how I can seperate a mime
Digest in its parts with Post/Lx . I remeber some Hotkey, but I cannot
find it anymore.
Please answer me to my private adress rather than to the list because
I get it faster this way.

thankyou
Werner

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HP Staber wrote:

> I used to download newsclips of different categories (topnews,
> business, scientific and tech news) from Yahoo! :
>
> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ts/
> ...

I also use GET to collect information from serveral sites, but
I add one additional step by automatically building one
NEW.HTM file from all the individual files downloaded with GET.

I then call HV new.htm and have the condensed information ready
to read. No more selection keystrokes needed. Indeed I defined
a POST makro and all this is done with one single keystroke
from the POST main screen:

-go online
-retrieve all pages with GET
-go offline
-build NEW.HTM from all pages
-open HV with NEW.HTM

To build NEW.HTM is use XGREP. However it only works, if the
lines of the original htm file, in which you are interested in,
contain a specific tag, that can be grepped by XGREP:

@echo off
echo  "<HTML>"                  >  new.htm

echo  "<br><u><B>Share</u></B>" >> new.htm
xgrep "<td>" share.htm          >> new.htm

::...

echo  "<br><u><B>File</u></B>"  >> new.htm
copy/a new.htm+file.htm new.htm > nul

::...

As you see, I not only extract info from the html files, but
I also add html tags for better readability and I also include
complete html files using the copy/a command.

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> On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:37:03 +0300, "Bulent Bicioglu"
<bulentbicioglu@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > It 's easy if you are familiar with system macro.
> > 1. Create a subset including the category's name that you want to change
> > 2. Goto that subset
> > 3. Use system macro
>
> But that only works if every entry in the subset is assigned to ONLY
> ONE category, right? If there are more categories, all will be deleted
> from the field. Or am I missing something?
>
> GTX
> daniel

Daniel, unfortunately, you are right

I will tell you if I come up with an idea...
Bulent


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On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:23:36 -0400, KenLondon <KenLondon@BELD.NET> wrote:
> I want to stress I have no inside information but
> I still believe that HP bowed to pressure from
> Micro$oft to kill the 200lx to pave the way for
> wince.
>
> It is my belief that Micro$oft and HP felt that an
> upgraded 200lx would be too much of a threat to
> wince and wanted it dead.

You have got to be kidding.This was the best laugh I had all
day.  As much as I like my 200LX and would never trade it for
a WinCE machine, I must admit that the masses have spoken and
they want icons and color and the ability to sync with their
Windows and Mac computers. They have voted with their $ and
they want Palm and some even want WinCE.They do not want a
text based, command line driven system, no matter how much
better WE think it is.

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Martin Bergvill  wrote
> Yes, being able to set up _something_ that will grab
> news from two sources, grab stock info, grab the
> 5 cities I need weather for, grab some other info I
> need and will specify, then put it on the screen for
> me to see.

How will you deal with format changes on the pages you're
pulling from?  I suppose there are some stable web pages but I
think they're the exception.

Just guessing but probably Avantgo has an arrangement with the
sites it includes to either receive pages in a consistant format
or to receive some sort of template the program can use to
handle page changes.

I've written programs that parse formatted information from
external sources to pull just the stuff we want into our
database and that's always been a major problem even when we
were promised there'd be no changes without notifying us in
advance.   The programs had to be able to handle small changes
all the time, almost daily, and larger changes from time to
time.  We rarely were notified.  As a result I learned to write
templates myself that guided the parsing so when changes
happened someone could modify a template and I didn't have to
re-program.

It's really the same old story about avoiding hard coding but
it's not always obvious at first.

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Werner Furlan surprisingly wrote:
> hello,
>
> I know this question has beeb answered before on this list, but I am on
> the road in the moment and I have very little resources to look for the
> answer myself. I am sure somebody can help me how I can seperate a mime
> Digest in its parts with Post/Lx . I remeber some Hotkey, but I cannot
> find it anymore.

Try this: In Post/LX, press F1 then Search for "explode".

   Joe


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Martin Bergvill wrote:
>Ah I see. Yes I do not think that they would like the name
Avantgo/Lx.

Why not use Avantgo as your source?  It'd data should be
consistant.  You could have an lx program that does what the
Avantgo program does on the Palm and does it with Avantgo data.
I don't think they can prevent you from parsing their data.

The user would have to sign up for Avantgo but that's free.

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Nigel Rotherham wrote:
> Just a pity that it only runs as a DOS
>program. i.e. Whilst active unable to open built in apps.

That another advantage of the 100/200lx.  You can use the
built-in apps and have 1 dos app running as well, as long as you
have enough memory.

Although some dos apps won't run in a Sysmgr shell and others
won't have enough memory, there are a lot that can do it just
fine.

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> I don't have the knowledge to write an emulator... heck, I had a hard

Writing full PC emulator is a lot of work (see Bochs sources for example),
but I found a shortcut.
It must be written x86 emulator and translator of system calls in one.
Such a beast could run Win32 applications in WinCE environment
and it should be easy to add to it full DOS functionality.
I've heard that years ago first Macs with PowerPC had such thing,
but I haven't seen it.

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Do you have the knowledge to write it?

Mike...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
> Grzegorz Wroblewski
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:24 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: FLUFF: HP Jornada 720
>
>
> > I don't have the knowledge to write an emulator... heck, I had a hard
>
> Writing full PC emulator is a lot of work (see Bochs sources for example),
> but I found a shortcut.
> It must be written x86 emulator and translator of system calls in one.
> Such a beast could run Win32 applications in WinCE environment
> and it should be easy to add to it full DOS functionality.
> I've heard that years ago first Macs with PowerPC had such thing,
> but I haven't seen it.
>
> Greg
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What if you could have your text based system, and a color screen too,
complete with backlight?
I am spoiled by the 200LX. It's text based commands are infinitely faster
and more powerful than
poking at the screen a million times to do the same thing. But I definitely
like the color/backlighting
of the J720, even in DOS mode.

Mike...


> they want Palm and some even want WinCE.They do not want a
> text based, command line driven system, no matter how much
> better WE think it is.
>
> Vic Roberts

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Hi friends,

On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:37:03 +0300, "Bulent Bicioglu" <bulentbicioglu@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It 's easy if you are familiar with system macro.
> 1. Create a subset including the category's name that you want to change
> 2. Goto that subset
> 3. Use system macro
> Before prepare a system macro that:
>     -open the entry
>     -goto category section
>     -delete the related name
>     -write the new category's name
>     -save it
>     Chain this macro toitself so that within the subset it  repeats itself
> till the last entry.

Another problem appeared: Since I seem to have reached the limit for
possible characters for all categories, I cannot add a new category,
which would be necessary ("write the new category's name"). I would
have to delete an old category before creating a new one.

I tried to simply run GSAR (a text file search-and-replace-utility)
over the PDB file and simply replace for example the category name
"Privat" by "priv" to save a few characters. But after that, the phone
book app didn't want to open the PDB file anymore. :-(
(I've made a backup before, of course).

I greatly appreciate your help!

GTX
daniel

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Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> HP Staber wrote:
>
> > I used to download newsclips of different categories (topnews,
> > business, scientific and tech news) from Yahoo! :
> >
> > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ts/
> > ...
>
> I also use GET to collect information from serveral sites, but
> I add one additional step by automatically building one
> NEW.HTM file from all the individual files downloaded with GET.

What you write looks great. I imagine it must be perfect.

I prefer plain text as it is faster to download - such pages typically
don't have all these banner adds and Java and or other useless litter.

With cellphone connection it is almost mandatory to go find text-only
URL's.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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> From: Nigel Rotherham mailto:nigel@KEEPSMILING.CO.ZA
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 5:29 AM
>...
> At this stage it seems (especially with the addition of extra
> SRAM memory)
> as though I will be staying with the 95.  With the release of
> ACT! 1.1.1
> into the public domain I have been experimenting with the
> application
>...
> does seem to
> have the ability to do the job.  Just a pity that it only
> runs as a DOS
> program. i.e. Whilst active unable to open built in apps. :-(

You need to find a copy of ACE's "Switch!" software for the 95LX.  When I
still had my 95LX, Act! was my main application and the software that
prevented it from being the *ONLY* thing I could run was Switch!.  It lets
you launch Act! with a hotkey or directly from Filer, even when Memo or
other System Manager applications are open.

I sold my copy after I got rid of my 95LX, but you should ask around.

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Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> tried using a search/replace utility on
the PDB file and blew it away.

OK.
Restore from back up. Display a subset of all the items in the Private
category. Go through the list and change the category names from Private to
Priv
Delete the Private label in the category field and enter Priv as a new
label.

All of this is much easier to do on a desk top with the GDBWinE program.

.ed.

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Am unable to locate LXREF or any other reference on the web that describe in
detail the structure of the gdb/ndb/pdb files used on the HP 200 LX.  I have
the source for gdbdump and gdbload.  I'm looking for a more detailed
reference for the file structure without shelling out $80. Maybe someone's
actually put together an object model with methods and properties already
that I can use from inside excel or access?  If not, I'd like to build one.

LXREF is referred to many times in the message archives, but it appears to
now be defunct ... ?

Thanks.

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Daniel, try to analyse the category's names:
- F8 (Columns)- F2 (Add Category)- F10 (Done)- F7 (Sort by category)
Then start analysing the picture.
- You can make small pieces of phonebooks with similarly structured
category's names then execute a system macro that I tried to describe below
- After all done you  can use File-Merge to put them together.
The critical point is that (hopefully) you don't have to various category's
name. Otherwise you should make to many small phonebooks to execute the
system macro. (which is not practical)
Bye, Bulent

> Hi friends,
>
> On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:37:03 +0300, "Bulent Bicioglu"
<bulentbicioglu@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > It 's easy if you are familiar with system macro.
> > 1. Create a subset including the category's name that you want to change
> > 2. Goto that subset
> > 3. Use system macro
> > Before prepare a system macro that:
> >     -open the entry
> >     -goto category section
> >     -delete the related name
> >     -write the new category's name
> >     -save it
> >     Chain this macro toitself so that within the subset it  repeats
itself
> > till the last entry.
>
> Another problem appeared: Since I seem to have reached the limit for
> possible characters for all categories, I cannot add a new category,
> which would be necessary ("write the new category's name"). I would
> have to delete an old category before creating a new one.
>
> I tried to simply run GSAR (a text file search-and-replace-utility)
> over the PDB file and simply replace for example the category name
> "Privat" by "priv" to save a few characters. But after that, the phone
> book app didn't want to open the PDB file anymore. :-(
> (I've made a backup before, of course).
>
> I greatly appreciate your help!
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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Hi Ed,

On Fri, 4 May 2001 15:41:29 -0500, Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET> wrote:

> Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> tried using a search/replace utility on
> the PDB file and blew it away.

:-
Thanks for your tip, but:

> Restore from back up. Display a subset of all the items in the Private
> category. Go through the list and change the category names from Private to
> Priv

-> That is exactly the step which actually didn't work because that
created one more category (at least temporarily) and since I reached
the limit the phone book simply didn't accept the new one and the
category field was left empty.

But fortunately I found one category that was only used by very few
items, so I temporaroly deleted the category from these entries and
then I could delete the whole category. Now I have space to vrate new
(shorter) ones.

Thanks a lot
daniel

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hi Joe

On 4 May 2001, at 10:04, Joe H. Smith wrote:

> Werner Furlan surprisingly wrote:
> > hello,
> >
> > I know this question has beeb answered before on this list, but I am
> > on the road in the moment and I have very little resources to look
> > for the answer myself. I am sure somebody can help me how I can
> > seperate a mime Digest in its parts with Post/Lx . I remeber some
> > Hotkey, but I cannot find it anymore.
>
> Try this: In Post/LX, press F1 then Search for "explode".
>
I tried this but with no result. There is no help available in this
point.

I found a hint in the post/lx Faq's on dasoft, there is said:

Split a Digest into Individual Messages
This pertains to Post.EXE version 2.2e and later
To break up a MIME-encoded digest into individual messages, add the
following
                line to the mailbox section in the POST.CFG:

ExplodeDigest=1
Note: The digest must be MIME-encoded.

I tried it but with no result. After a mail from Avi from Dasoft I
corrected it because these entries are case - sensitive. Still no
success!
I must miss something important.
I remember that there is some hotkey to explode the digest....

When I was trying with different keys, I had a success ONCE,  but I
could not reproduce it unfortunatly.

Any help is appreciated.

regards,
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> Desktop Quicken does not read PocketQuicken data files, nor can I find =
a
> way to get it to import a QIF file.

I use Quicken 8 on the HPLX to manage all my bank accounts,
credit card, and so on, and also Pocket Quicken for my expenses
in cash.

I keep all the amounts in Quicken 8 in Euro, but in Pocket
Quicken I keep the amounts in Portugese Escudos and Spanish
Pesetas (2 different accounts), the currencies I use the most.

I have written a perl script that I run on the HPLX once every
month to convert the .QIF files exported from Pocket Quicken to
a .QIF format that Quicken 8 can read (the formats are slihtly
different), and additionally convert the amounts from the
national currencies to Euro. This is all glued together with a
LXBatch script to automate the convertion.

The perl script follows. It is called like this:
  perl pdt2qdt.pl PTE pte.qif PTS pts.qif > q8.qif

Where PTE and PTS are just the currency names, pte.qif and
pts.qif are the files exported from Pocket Quicken for each
account, and q8.qif is the generated file to be imported in
Quicken 8.

Hope this helps.

Best Regards,
Paulo Custodio
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# Perl
%exchange =3D ('PTE', 1/200.482, 'PTS', 1/166.386);
while (@ARGV) {
  $currency =3D shift;
  $file =3D shift;
  $FACTOR =3D $exchange{$currency};
  if ($FACTOR =3D=3D 0) {
    print "Unknown currency $currency\n"; exit 0;
  }
  if (! open(FILE, $file)) {
    print "Cannot open $file\n"; exit 0;
  }
  $/ =3D "\n";
  while(<FILE>) {
    %trans =3D &decode($_);
    $key =3D join($;,
                @trans{'Year','Month','Payee','Class','Memo'});
    %old =3D split($;, $sum{$key});
    $trans{Day} =3D $old{Day} if $trans{Day} < $old{Day};
    $trans{Amount} +=3D $old{Amount};
    $sum{$key} =3D join($;, %trans);
  }
}
print "!Type:Cash\n";
foreach (sort keys %sum) {
  %trans =3D split($;, $sum{$_} );
  print &encode( %trans );
}

# decode one transaction
sub decode {
  local($_) =3D @_;
  local(%trans);
  foreach (split(/\n/, $_)) {
    if(/D\s*(\d+)\S\s*(\d+)\S\s*(\d+)$/) {
      ($trans{Month},$trans{Day},$trans{Year}) =3D ($1,$2,$3);
    } elsif(/T(-?0-9\. +)$/) {
      $trans{Amount} =3D $1;
      $trans{Amount} =3D~ s/\s+//g;
      $trans{Amount} *=3D $FACTOR;
    } elsif(/P(.*)$/) {
      $trans{Payee} =3D $1;
    } elsif(/M(.*)$/) {
      $trans{Memo} =3D $1;
    } elsif(/L(\w.*)$/) {
      $trans{Class} =3D $1;
    } elsif(/\*$/) {
      ;
    } else {
      print "Invalid format: $_\n"; exit 0;
    }
  }
  if (! defined $trans{Class}) {
    print "No Class in transaction:\n$_\n"; exit 0;
  }
  return (%trans);
}

# encode one transaction
sub encode {
  local(%trans) =3D @_;
  return sprintf("D%02d/%02d%s%02d\n",
                 $trans{Day},
                 $trans{Month},
                 ($trans{Year} >=3D 90 ? "/" : "'"),
                 $trans{Year})
       . sprintf("T%.2f\n",
                 $trans{Amount})
       . ($trans{Payee} ne "" ? "P$trans{Payee}\n" : "")
       . ($trans{Memo}  ne "" ? "M$trans{Memo}\n"  : "")
       . ($trans{Class} ne "" ? "L$trans{Class}\n" : "")
       . "\n";
}

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        Daniel Hertrich ably wrote:
> I tried to simply run GSAR (a text file search-and-replace-utility)
> over the PDB file and simply replace for example the category name
> "Privat" by "priv" to save a few characters. But after that, the phone
> book app didn't want to open the PDB file anymore. :-(
> (I've made a backup before, of course).

The replacement you ran changed also the lengths of records,
and all the pointers in the database are now totally screwed
up. The only way to do a mass conversion like this is via a
macro. But that leaves you with a problem: cannot test with
database macros.

The workaround: Dump all the reconrds from the database into a
CSV format. Open the database. delete all the records. add one
record and change in it the category. Now change the categoty
field in the CSV by using your GSAR. Then upload the CSV into
the database. Delete the dummy record.

Not a pretty process, but it will give correct results.

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> Am unable to locate LXREF or any other reference on the web that =
describe in
> detail the structure of the gdb/ndb/pdb files used on the HP 200 LX.  I =
have
> the source for gdbdump and gdbload.

I recomend having a look at the HP200LX::DB perl modules by
G.Gonter, available at www.cpan.org. There are methods to read
and write ADB and GDB database files.

You can use Active State Perl (www.activestate.com) to
read/write the LX databases, and also to connect via OLE to any
of the Ms-Office applications.

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Martin Crundall wrote:
> I'm looking for a more detailed reference for the file structure ...

On http://hp200lx-db.sourceforge.net/docs/ you'll find a link to
100gdb.zip (http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/database/100gdb.zip) and
a few notes about adb, ndb, gdb, and wdb files.  These file were
compiled for my HP200LX::DB perl modules which Pauolo Custodio
already mentioned.

Please excuse my curiousity, may I ask, what you plan to do with
the db structure reference?

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After I had a  major error in my appt.adb, I set up a .bat that runs
Dbcheck and saves the results to .txt files. I also have another .bat file
that back's up the prev dbchecked files.

Is there any way to automate checking the .txt files for the word "error"
within the first .bat file. I would like combine the first 2 .bat files
with an error check in the middle that stops the backup if the word "error"
appears in the .txt dbcheck results files.

Thanks

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On Mon, 7 May 2001, Joe Buford wrote:

> Is there any way to automate checking the .txt files for the word
> "error" within the first .bat file. I would like combine the first 2
> .bat files with an error check in the middle that stops the backup if
> the word "error" appears in the .txt dbcheck results files.

xgrep (on S.U.P.E.R.) should do the trick.  It sets a return code which
you can test for in your batch file.

I haven't used dbcheck myself, but you might want to check its docs to see
if it returns a usable code itself.  That should be more reliable than
using xgrep to search for a string (which may not show up on certain types
of errors).

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Thanks Adrian, I'll check out xgrep.

Joe




Adrian Ho <aholx@singnet.com.sg> on 05/07/2001 07:51:24 AM

To:    Joe Buford <Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM>
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Subject:  Re: Automated Dbcheck and Backup


On Mon, 7 May 2001, Joe Buford wrote:

> Is there any way to automate checking the .txt files for the word
> "error" within the first .bat file. I would like combine the first 2
> .bat files with an error check in the middle that stops the backup if
> the word "error" appears in the .txt dbcheck results files.

xgrep (on S.U.P.E.R.) should do the trick.  It sets a return code which
you can test for in your batch file.

I haven't used dbcheck myself, but you might want to check its docs to see
if it returns a usable code itself.  That should be more reliable than
using xgrep to search for a string (which may not show up on certain types
of errors).

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On Monday, 07.05.2001 at 13:56 GMT, Joe Buford  wrote:
> After I had a  major error in my appt.adb, I set up a .bat that runs
> Dbcheck and saves the results to .txt files. I also have another .bat
file
> that back's up the prev dbchecked files.
>
> Is there any way to automate checking the .txt files for the word "error"
> within the first .bat file. I would like combine the first 2 .bat files
> with an error check in the middle that stops the backup if the word
"error"
> appears in the .txt dbcheck results files.
>
DBCHECK issues a return code itself. I'm using the following batch file:

DBCHECK a:\_dat\*.?db
if errorlevel 2 goto error
DBCHECK c:\_dat\*.pdb
if errorlevel 2 goto error
DBCHECK c:\_dat\appt.adb
if errorlevel 2 goto error
DBCHECK c:\_dat\archiv*.adb
if errorlevel 2 goto error
zip /v
goto end
:error
echo Achtung: DBCHECK-Problem bei Datenbank
:end

The only problem might be to find out which database caused the error if
you don't watch the execution of the batch file.

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<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>Long time lurker has FOR SALE<underline>


-</underline>4 MB 200LX  SS, all docs, box, manual (case has small crack 1/4-
3/8" near rt. hinge, otherwise excellent)


-2 a/c adapters


-leather case


-EXP 14.4 modem, and cable w/ 4 MB storage on card


-serial cable for PC


-extras (software)


Also: pieces of connectivity pack for 95LX (5 1/4" discs, manual,
cable, no adapter)


Would like to sell to someone in the northeast so that hand
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BO over $300 + shipping for the works.  E-mail me off list


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Hi Joe,

On Mon, 7 May 2001 06:56:54 -0700, Joe Buford <Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM> wrote:

> After I had a  major error in my appt.adb, I set up a .bat that runs
> Dbcheck and saves the results to .txt files. I also have another .bat file
> that back's up the prev dbchecked files.
>
> Is there any way to automate checking the .txt files for the word "error"
> within the first .bat file. I would like combine the first 2 .bat files
> with an error check in the middle that stops the backup if the word "error"
> appears in the .txt dbcheck results files.

I bet one of these search utilities like xgrep or so returns
errorlevels depending on the search result.
You could use such an errorlevel in your bat file to control the
backup.

A very good idea, BTW!

Or maybe DBCHECK itself returns an errorlevel??

GTX
daniel


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I would prefer to have a program that isn't buggy.  Why can't we complain to HP that
their s/w is garbage and is buggy as hell?  My appointments database has entries that
cannot be removed, and the HP program to fix .*db files didn't work.

Maybe it's time to junk the appt book and phone book and use a superior replacement?
(after, somehow, salvaging my data that's in the appt book) - any suggestions?

(Incidentally, I can make a copy of appt.adb, I just can't save off the data for
1999 and 2000.  The appt book is -sooooo- -slooooow- with a lot of entries!  It's
pathetic, actually.  I guess HP learned from Microsoft how to make software like
this...)

Thanks -Miks

On Mon, 7 May 2001, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:56:48 +0200
> From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Automated Dbcheck and Backup
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> On Mon, 7 May 2001 06:56:54 -0700, Joe Buford <Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM> wrote:
>
> > After I had a  major error in my appt.adb, I set up a .bat that runs
> > Dbcheck and saves the results to .txt files. I also have another .bat file
> > that back's up the prev dbchecked files.
> >
> > Is there any way to automate checking the .txt files for the word "error"
> > within the first .bat file. I would like combine the first 2 .bat files
> > with an error check in the middle that stops the backup if the word "error"
> > appears in the .txt dbcheck results files.
>
> I bet one of these search utilities like xgrep or so returns
> errorlevels depending on the search result.
> You could use such an errorlevel in your bat file to control the
> backup.
>
> A very good idea, BTW!
>
> Or maybe DBCHECK itself returns an errorlevel??
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
>
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Joe Buford wrote:
> After I had a  major error in my appt.adb, I set up a .bat that runs
> Dbcheck and saves the results to .txt files. I also have another .bat file
> that back's up the prev dbchecked files.
>
> Is there any way to automate checking the .txt files for the word "error"
> within the first .bat file. I would like combine the first 2 .bat files
> with an error check in the middle that stops the backup if the word "error"
> appears in the .txt dbcheck results files.

DBCHECK returns an ERRORLEVEL if db problems are found.
Here's my BAKDB.BAT that backups the Appt and Phone dbs to a
c:\_dat\bakdb\  directory.  If good a zip file is created with
the db and the txt output from DBCHECK.  The zip file is named
with the date in form YYYYMMDD so it can keep multiple back
levels.  I go to the dir every few weeks and delete old backups.

Cheers... Russ


................................................................
@echo off

call setdates

if not exist c:\_dat\bakdb\%dates%.aZb goto cont
cls
echo -
echo - Warning! Backup files already exist for today.
echo -
echo - Hit ENTER to continue or Ctrl-Break to Terminate batch job...
echo -
pause>>nul
:cont

pushdir
c:
pushdir
cd \_dat

md bakdb

::----------------------------------------------------------------------
:appt

cls
echo -
echo - DBcheck'ing : Appt.Adb
echo -

dbcheck /d /n appt.adb > bakdb\appt.txt

if errorlevel 1 echo  Appt.Adb is Bad!
if errorlevel 1 pause
if errorlevel 1 goto phone

pkzip -oex bakdb\%dates%.AZB bakdb\appt.txt appt.adb

::----------------------------------------------------------------------
:phone

cls
echo -
echo - DBcheck'ing : Phone.Pdb
echo -

dbcheck /d /n phone.pdb > bakdb\phone.txt

if errorlevel 1 echo  Phone.Pdb is Bad!
if errorlevel 1 pause
if errorlevel 1 goto dat

pkzip -oex bakdb\%dates%.PZB bakdb\phone.txt phone.pdb

::----------------------------------------------------------------------
:dat

cls
attrib -s -h -r -a  f:\_dat\*.*
xcopy c:\_dat\*.*   f:\_dat\    /v

xcopy c:\*.*        f:\c\       /v
attrib -s -h -r -a  f:\c\*.*
xcopy f:\*.*        c:\f\       /v
attrib -s -h -r -a  c:\f\*.*

::----------------------------------------------------------------------

:xit
popdir
popdir

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On Mon, 7 May 2001 14:23:47 -0700 Mike Cheponis wrote:
>I would prefer to have a program that isn't buggy.  Why can't we complain to HP that
>their s/w is garbage and is buggy as hell?  My appointments database has entries that
>cannot be removed, and the HP program to fix .*db files didn't work.

I've been able to manually repair a few corrupted adb files. If you
don't mind sending me the file, I'll take a look at it.

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Hello all,

I just read that Toshiba announced a half-gig 3,3mm CF card for
500USD, type THNCF512MAA. See:
<www.toshiba.com/taec/press/to-140.shtml>

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hi Joe,

on 7 May 2001, at 15:56 Joe Buford wrote about:
Automated Dbcheck and Backup

> After I had a  major error in my appt.adb, I set up a .bat that runs
> Dbcheck and saves the results to .txt files. I also have another
> .bat file that back's up the prev dbchecked files.
>
> Is there any way to automate checking the .txt files for the word
> "error" within the first .bat file. I would like combine the first 2
> .bat files with an error check in the middle that stops the backup
> if the word "error" appears in the .txt dbcheck results files.
>

you could do it with xgrep.
But why don't you use the errorlevels provided by dbcheck?
thats much easier IMHO.

Werner


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> Hello all,
>
> I just read that Toshiba announced a half-gig 3,3mm CF card for
> 500USD, type THNCF512MAA. See:
> <www.toshiba.com/taec/press/to-140.shtml>

Wow!  That's a great price!!!  Anyone who gets one please report to
the list on your success or problems.

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Hi:

I have a HP430 WinCE Palm-sized PC and I'm interested in trading it for a
HP200LX.

The HP430 is in excellent shape and is complete - box, all CD's and
documentation, etc.  Includes MP3 player (with better integrated hardware
controls than the new Pocket PC's) in ROM, as well as Pocket Outlook and
OmniCalc and much more.  Here is a link with the product description:
http://www.hp.com/jornada/products/430/prod_spec.html

I am looking for a HP200LX that is in excellent shape, not too worn out ...
preferably no cracks.  I would prefer a non-doublespeed, 4MB unit, but may
consider a 2MB unit.

I will also include a 32MB CF card for a 4MB system with serial connection
cable in excellent shape.

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Curtis,

Are their 2 or 3 error levels returned for Dbcheck or does the v1.73
Dbcheck.txt file have a typo?

Thanks

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>>I would prefer to have a program that isn't buggy.  Why can't we complain
to HP that
>>their s/w is garbage and is buggy as hell?  My appointments database has
entries that
>>cannot be removed, and the HP program to fix .*db files didn't work.
>
> I've been able to manually repair a few corrupted adb files. If you
> don't mind sending me the file, I'll take a look at it.
>
I run dbcheck (from SUPER) on all .?db files in my c:/_dat on a
semi-regular basis. Every once in a while appt.adb shows errors. I've
always been able to fix it this way:
1. Start Appointments
2. Menu File, New, then create a new appt1.adb
3. Menu File, Merge, then merge into it the corrupt appt.adb
4. Quit Appointments
5. Rename appt.adb to something like appt.bad, and rename appt1.adb to
appt.adb
6. Run dbcheck again to confirm that the new appt.adb is good, and then
delete appt.bad

I suppose that it's possible to break a .?db badly enough that this little
technique won't work, but that hasn't happened to me yet.

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Hi all,

is it just me or has there been significantly less activity here than
usual?

I used to recieve upwards of 30 messages on a busy day (more on a _very_
busy day), but these days it's fairly quiet, more like 10-15 messages/day.
I only got a single message on the fifth.

Not that I mind, really, but I would like to know whether I should
question the reliability of my mail server.


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Same here.... I noticed it's pretty quiet. I got 3 messages on 5/5 but it's
probably due to time zone differences. Apathy? I hope not. I think that
people are just sticking to the topic at hand and out getting more sun (in
the northern hemisphere, anyway).

Regards





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Laust Brock-Nannestad
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 5:23 PM
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Subject: OT: List activity?


Hi all,

is it just me or has there been significantly less activity here than
usual?

I used to recieve upwards of 30 messages on a busy day (more on a _very_
busy day), but these days it's fairly quiet, more like 10-15 messages/day.
I only got a single message on the fifth.

Not that I mind, really, but I would like to know whether I should
question the reliability of my mail server.


bye,

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Date:         Wed, 9 May 2001 18:04:28 -0400
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Yes I noticed that too. I wonder if there was a problem with the server?
What do you think Al?

Mike...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
> Laust Brock-Nannestad
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 5:23 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: OT: List activity?
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> is it just me or has there been significantly less activity here than
> usual?
>
> I used to recieve upwards of 30 messages on a busy day (more on a _very_
> busy day), but these days it's fairly quiet, more like 10-15 messages/day.
> I only got a single message on the fifth.
>
> Not that I mind, really, but I would like to know whether I should
> question the reliability of my mail server.
>
>
> bye,
>
> Laust
>
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Date:         Wed, 9 May 2001 18:07:33 -0500
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On Wed, 9 May 2001, Mike Schneider wrote:

> Yes I noticed that too. I wonder if there was a problem with the server?
> What do you think Al?

I've observed that everyone around me (myself included) has been
*buried* lately.  No time for anything but the highest priority
activities.

My case is a bit exacerbated by having left my 200LX on a taxicab
seat in Boston last Wednesday night.  :(   I've been busy trying to
get a replacement unit set up and running to my liking.

Special thanks to the crew at Thaddeus for quick and kind help in
getting a replacement unit into my hands!

Ted

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Hi, thanks for your suggestion, Bruce.  I did try it, and here's what happened:

original APPT.ADB:   175 129 bytes
New+Merge APPT1.ADB: 162 949 bytes
                     -------------
                       12 180 bytes less in new file.

Of course, I don't have any idea what it threw away in those 12K bytes.

Interestingly, I copied both of those files to have a .GDB suffix (APPT.GDB and
APPT1.GDB) and tried opening with the Database application, and in both cases it
says "Invalid file type" with a large "OK" button (it's NOT "ok" !!!).

I'm going to try some other programs to see if they will fix it, else I'm going to
take Curtis Cameron up on his generous offer!

Thanks all -Mike


On Wed, 9 May 2001, Bruce Martin wrote:

> Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:08:20 -0400
> From: Bruce Martin <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Automated Dbcheck and Backup
>
> >>I would prefer to have a program that isn't buggy.  Why can't we complain
> to HP that
> >>their s/w is garbage and is buggy as hell?  My appointments database has
> entries that
> >>cannot be removed, and the HP program to fix .*db files didn't work.
> >
> > I've been able to manually repair a few corrupted adb files. If you
> > don't mind sending me the file, I'll take a look at it.
> >
> I run dbcheck (from SUPER) on all .?db files in my c:/_dat on a
> semi-regular basis. Every once in a while appt.adb shows errors. I've
> always been able to fix it this way:
> 1. Start Appointments
> 2. Menu File, New, then create a new appt1.adb
> 3. Menu File, Merge, then merge into it the corrupt appt.adb
> 4. Quit Appointments
> 5. Rename appt.adb to something like appt.bad, and rename appt1.adb to
> appt.adb
> 6. Run dbcheck again to confirm that the new appt.adb is good, and then
> delete appt.bad
>
> I suppose that it's possible to break a .?db badly enough that this little
> technique won't work, but that hasn't happened to me yet.
>
> Bruce in Toronto
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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 06:47:50 +0200
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I just spent a week without my LX!
For attending a specialist course in Toulouse I packed my LX, including
spare AA alcalines, spare Lithium, and regulated 12V adapter.
On day 2 I tried to turn my LX on, but no screen. I inserted the adapter -
still no screen. I did a shift/ctrl/on and it loaded the first 2 TSRs from
my autoexec.bat on drive A and stopped dead in between, needing another
shift/ctrl/on. Removing the SRAM card to boot from C: was no use because it
had a copy of my autoexec.bat. So, here I was with all the batteries under
the sun but no LX. Returning home last night I was finally able to use my
backup 100LX to copy the original autoexec.bat from D:
The offending TSR was a corrupt QUICKLX.COM, possibly from the partial
failure of the backup battery due to too much current used with my double
speed and my failure to turn off the com port.

my advice: call your autoexec.bat "autoexec.bak" on C: and keep copies of
all TSR programs on A:

Nathalie doc fra :)

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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 00:23:29 -0500
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On Wed, 9 May 2001 07:15:54 -0700 Joe Buford wrote:
>Are their 2 or 3 error levels returned for Dbcheck or does the v1.73
>Dbcheck.txt file have a typo?

The error levels returned are:

0: no error
1: the file wasn't found, or DOS couldn't open it.
3: database errors were found.

I used to have an error level 2, but that was a few versions ago.

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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 10:48:14 +0200
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On Thu, 10 May 2001, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

...
> had a copy of my autoexec.bat. So, here I was with all the batteries under
> the sun but no LX. Returning home last night I was finally able to use my
> backup 100LX to copy the original autoexec.bat from D:
> The offending TSR was a corrupt QUICKLX.COM, possibly from the partial
> failure of the backup battery due to too much current used with my double
> speed and my failure to turn off the com port.

Nasty... I've had executables that went "bad" for some reason. Never found
out why.

ISTR that if you hold down the Alt-key while booting the LX, it will give
you a choice of booting from C with or without running autoexec.bat and
likewise booting from D, with or without. It should never be impossible to
boot the LX, no matter how many problems you have with autoexec.bat or
config.sys as the system can skip the files. That's one of the things I
really like about the LX.


bye,

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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 10:23:50 +0200
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Hello people
I could not resist the option to acquire a Sandisk 220MB card for $80 ;-) (
A wild bid which surprisingly got accepted).
 So, I would like to get some advice on what to store on it.
I already have some ebooks, since I have a Gutenberg CD-Rom. In goes also
the CIA factbook.

So: Users with BIG flashcards, what are you using the thing for? Any wild
advice welcome.

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Oh, definitely store stock market data on it. A years worth of 3000 symbols
will take up about 25 meg. :-)

Mike...

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> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 4:24 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: What to do with a big flashcard?
>
>
> Hello people
> I could not resist the option to acquire a Sandisk 220MB card for
> $80 ;-) (
> A wild bid which surprisingly got accepted).
>  So, I would like to get some advice on what to store on it.
> I already have some ebooks, since I have a Gutenberg CD-Rom. In goes also
> the CIA factbook.
>
> So: Users with BIG flashcards, what are you using the thing for? Any wild
> advice welcome.
>
> Michel
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Hi


Finally I bought a back-up unit. It is six years old and I
gave 50$ for it.

The number of my own HP is SG44203440

And the new one is SG44203498

Quite similar.


I have used my HP heavily, this new one is not that used at
all, you can see it and feel it.


So I guess you will now see me around here a couple of more
years:)



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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 07:09:03 -0400
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Hi


I was to download Transfile from Super, but there was a link
to a page of HP and that you must register first, but I
couldn't find any place to register so I guess it is just to
download?


It seemed as it wasn't any zipped file either?




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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 08:44:25 -0400
Reply-To:     "Clyde, Brenda A." <Brenda.Clyde@JHUAPL.EDU>
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I have a HP100LX, Connectivity pack, Double slot, type III drive, 5 MB flash
card, 14.4 flash modem  for sale.

I would like to get $200 plus shipping for everything for everything or will
sell individual items as follows:

HP100LX   & Connectivity Pack $75 plus shipping
DoubleSlot $75 plus shipping
Type III Drive  $30 Plus Shipping
5MB Flash Card $20 Plus shipping
14.4 ThinFax Modem  $30 Plus Shipping

Please email at

Brenda.Clyde@jhuapl.edu


Thanks,
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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 07:47:39 -0500
Reply-To:     Bob Brown <bbrown@HARPER.CC.IL.US>
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My 680 is having big trouble suddenly.  (I do have a 200lx also, but need
help with my 680).

Yesterday morn I found it dead as a doornail.  I guessed that the battery
was dead.  I plugged it into my charger and hit ON.  The startup copyright
line kept flashing quickly on my screen.  Even hitting ON again
wouldn't stop it.

Finally I pulled the battery and the backup battery to do a full reset.
That worked for a while, but it then locks up again showing messages like
'booting warm .. exception event code = 20', and if I try to hit ON it goes
back to the flashing copyright message.  The only way to get it running again
is to do another full reset.

HELP!

thanks.

-Bob
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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 08:00:17 -0700
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Curtis,
One more question:

If an Errorlevel 1 is set indicating that "some files were not found or
couldn't be opened" per the v1.73 Dbcheck.txt file, is an automatic
Error level 3 set indicating "problems were found."?

The reason I ask is to determine the best way to catch ANY error's in my
db's
Right now my db_check.bat file (nothing fancy) reads as follows:


Thanks

Joe

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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 11:15:59 -0400
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> original APPT.ADB:   175 129 bytes
> New+Merge APPT1.ADB: 162 949 bytes
>                      -------------
>                        12 180 bytes less in new file.
>
> Of course, I don't have any idea what it threw away in those 12K bytes.


I have done this type of merging several times in the past.  The new one =
is
always a bit smaller than the original, but I have never lost any of my =
data.
I thus assume that the extra is stuff I deleted or change that never got
removed from the file.  So, I think the 12 K bytes you "lost" were =
garbage and
you won't miss them.

 Steven A. Carder M.D. <steve@carderfamily.net>
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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 11:16:02 -0400
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> shift/ctrl/on. Removing the SRAM card to boot from C: was no use =
because it
> had a copy of my autoexec.bat.

You can hold down the ALT key during a reboot.  This will bring up a menu =
of
boot options.  If you choose option 6 the palmtop will boot to plain DOS =
from
drive D: and then you can work on your problem.  BTW option 5 boots with =
the
original autoexec.bat from the D: drive.

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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 11:16:05 -0400
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> The number of my own HP is SG44203440
>
> And the new one is SG44203498

They were both made during the same week, and probably on the same day.  =
As a
review <g> the palmtop's serial number can be interpreted thus:

     SG          4           42           03498
   Made in     made in   during the     the 3498th unit
   Singapore   1994      42nd week      made that week

So, both of your palmtops were made during the week of October 17th - =
21st of
1994.  I hope it was a good week at the factory <g>.

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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 18:56:18 +0200
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Hi Nat

On Thu, 10 May 2001 06:47:50 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> the sun but no LX. Returning home last night I was finally able to use my
> backup 100LX to copy the original autoexec.bat from D:
> The offending TSR was a corrupt QUICKLX.COM, possibly from the partial
> failure of the backup battery due to too much current used with my double
> speed and my failure to turn off the com port.
>
> my advice: call your autoexec.bat "autoexec.bak" on C: and keep copies of
> all TSR programs on A:

There is always the option to press the ALT key during reboot to choose
which drive the start files whould be loaded from. So you could easily
press ALT and choose D: as your "start drive" in such a case.

GTX
dan ees ger ;-)

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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 13:00:23 -0400
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Steve Carder wrote:




> So, both of your palmtops were made during the week of October 17th -
> 21st of
> 1994.  I hope it was a good week at the factory <g>.


Yeah, that was a coincident. I hope it is a good omen?:-D


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Hey everyone!  I received an email from a user having some trouble with
DOSShell, as described below.  It's been so long since I've used
DOSShell that I can't remember how to fix the problem, although I do
remember that it is the default behaviour.  He says he's crawled the
entire system looking for a setting to change, to no avail.

> I got a dosshell question:  Every time I run another program via dosshell
> and exit that program, I get the annoying pause message "Press any key to
> return to dosshell" or something like that.  In viewing the dosshell.ini
> file, I see the setting:
>
>  pause = enabled
>
> I don't see any dosshell method of changing this setting (is there one?)
>
> so I change the setting manually via a text editor to see if this affects
> dosshell.  I save the change, I double-check that it says "disabled".  When
> I run dosshell again and peer into dosshell.ini it reads "enabled"  !!

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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 23:10:03 +0200
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On Wed,  9 May 2001 18:04:28 -0400, Mike Schneider wrote:

> Yes I noticed that too. I wonder if there was a problem with the server?
> What do you think Al?

I do not think that it is anything wrong with the list. I have been
busy buying a new motorcycle so I have been lurking here.

Summertime is a low traffic period I think. I used to use most of my
evenings in the wintertime for email/news, but now I am out popping
wheelies on my bike :-)

But the Hplx is with me almost all the time :-)

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Fri, 11 May 2001 10:51:20 +1200 (NZST)

Lars, well the cases (bottom half at least) were made in the same week.
Maybe your backup is otherwise newer than it appears :)

05h50m57s ago ...
On Thu, 10 May 2001 13:00:23 -0400, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> Steve Carder wrote:
>
> > So, both of your palmtops were made during the week of October 17th -
> > 21st of
> > 1994.  I hope it was a good week at the factory <g>.
>
> Yeah, that was a coincident. I hope it is a good omen?:-D

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Bel, Michel wrote:
>  So, I would like to get some advice on what to store on it.
> I already have some ebooks, since I have a Gutenberg CD-Rom. In goes also
> the CIA factbook.

SUPER.GDB so you can have a list of files at Palmtop.Net.

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Thanks.

I ended up doing Menu->File->Extract and saved off stuff before 1-Jan-2000 to a file,
then did Menu->File->Remove the same piece, and it worked!  I had tried "remove with
save removed items in archive" but that didn't work before.

So I think I'm in business!  Thanks everone.

Also, FWIW, dbcheck doesn't check .adb files (Error 9).

-Mike

On Thu, 10 May 2001, Steve Carder wrote:

> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:15:59 -0400
> From: Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Automated Dbcheck and Backup
>
> > original APPT.ADB:   175 129 bytes
> > New+Merge APPT1.ADB: 162 949 bytes
> >                      -------------
> >                        12 180 bytes less in new file.
> >
> > Of course, I don't have any idea what it threw away in those 12K bytes.
>
>
> I have done this type of merging several times in the past.  The new one is
> always a bit smaller than the original, but I have never lost any of my data.
> I thus assume that the extra is stuff I deleted or change that never got
> removed from the file.  So, I think the 12 K bytes you "lost" were garbage and
> you won't miss them.
>
>  Steven A. Carder M.D. <steve@carderfamily.net>
>  PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu
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At 07:09 AM 5/10/01 -0400, Lars Hedstroem wrote:
 >
 >I was to download Transfile from Super, but there was a link
 >to a page of HP and that you must register first, but I
 >couldn't find any place to register so I guess it is just to
 >download?
 >
 >It seemed as it wasn't any zipped file either?
 >

You can download it from
http://www.hp.com/cposupport/handheld_computers/software/tf103.exe.html
without  having to pre-register.

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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

  ...

> On day 2 I tried to turn my LX on, but no screen. I inserted the adapter -
> still no screen. I did a shift/ctrl/on and it loaded the first 2 TSRs from
> my autoexec.bat on drive A and stopped dead in between, needing another
> shift/ctrl/on. Removing the SRAM card to boot from C: was no use because it
> had a copy of my autoexec.bat. So, here I was with all the batteries under
> the sun but no LX. Returning home last night I was finally able to use my

Since you have a speeded up machine and presumably some extra
memory on it requiring a driver, you probably made most of the
damage when you used Sh-Ctrl-On. At that point, you probably
replied Y to initialiizng the C: drive and consequently wiped
out the drivers, config.sys. After that things are nasty, but
not lost.

During the boot sequence you get about 1.5-2 seconds to press
Alt and alter the normal boot sequence. You can select to boot
from A:, C:, or D: and in each case, can decide to not process
the boot files - i.e. CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT.

So, you can always bypass any corrupt drivers, get "some
machine" back, and work from there.

The C: drive you mention is problematic. See, the "facotry
level" machine has a C: drive which is 0.3MB, 1.3MB, or in the
case of a 4MB machine, the C: drive is 3.3MB.

However, in most cases, the name of the drive is changed
during the CONFIG.SYS phase of the boot when booting with
Times2Tech drivers. That drive will be known after the boot
process as F drive (or G). The added memory will be known
after the boot as drive C.

There are good reasons for this to take place. Unfortunately,
it also tends to confuse: Which C drive are you really talking
about.

Most times, I noted that the HP C drive (not the added memory)
is rather volatile. When you have problems like you describe,
that drive and its content will be corrupted quickly, while
the added memory remains quite sturdy and maintains its
content well.

So here is how I get myself out of troubles:

I keep a copy of autoexec.bat, config.sys, and all the drivers
in A: drive in a directory called "savemy.ass" or some such
name <g> Do not keep these files on the root directory of A
drive!

When I lose the content of the C drive (the built-in, not
added memory) I reboot from D drive using the Alt trick.

This boot may not be terribly comfortable to use - if your
machine is double speeded, you'll briefly have to work through
the haze.

Go to C drive in Filer. Delete all the file from C including
the _dat directory. (There are files in there which are hidden
and non-erasable - use ATTRIB program on D:\DOS to change
attributes and then delete the files and the directory.

Go to A to directory savemy.ass and copy from it ALL the files
to the C drive.

Reboot.

FYI: If you set up the CONFIG.SYS correctly, it will swap the
names of C drive and the add on memory right before it is time
to read and execute AUTOEXEC.BAT, and so the AUTOEXEC.BAT you
copied will not execute.

If you are lucky, you will have a good AUTOEXEC.BAT on the
addon memory drive (now called C drive). If it is not good,
you can always abort the AUTOEXEC.BAT by using CTRL-C and
reply yes to the "Terminate job?" question.

What you can do now is move the backup AUTOEXEC.BAT to the C
drive (the addon memory) and reboot normally.

If you found a corrupt program as part of the boot, edit
AUTOEXEC.BAT, and make the line that loads the corrupt program
a remark by putting the letters "REM" in the first columns of
this line.

Many people tend to put programs and other utilities in the
built-in drive. I never do - it is the first storage that gets
corrupted when there are problems in the palmtop. Leave them
in the A drive or in the addon memory.

Good luck next time.

   Joe


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On Thu, 10 May 2001 16:54:15 -0700 Mike Cheponis wrote:

>Also, FWIW, dbcheck doesn't check .adb files (Error 9).

Yes, it does! I think some early versions didn't, but it's been a
while since then. You can get the latest at
http://members.aol.com/freewhl44/lxgames.html .

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On Thu, 10 May 2001 08:00:17 -0700 Joseph.Buford@HSC.com wrote:
>If an Errorlevel 1 is set indicating that "some files were not found or
>couldn't be opened" per the v1.73 Dbcheck.txt file, is an automatic
>Error level 3 set indicating "problems were found."?
>
>The reason I ask is to determine the best way to catch ANY error's in my
>db's

It returns an ERRORLEVEL value of 1 if it can't open the file. When
you test for the ERRORLEVEL variable in a DOS batch file, the IF
command tests whether the ERRORLEVEL value is greater than or equal to
some value, so if its value is 3 and you use "IF ERRORLEVEL==1", then
this is considered true.

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dear Nathalie,

you have my deepest sympathy. must have been a hard time you had there.


> On Thu, 10 May 2001, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
>
> ...
> > had a copy of my autoexec.bat. So, here I was with all the batteries =
under
> > the sun but no LX. Returning home last night I was finally able to =
use my
> > backup 100LX to copy the original autoexec.bat from D:
> > The offending TSR was a corrupt QUICKLX.COM, possibly from the =
partial
> > failure of the backup battery due to too much current used with my =
double
> > speed and my failure to turn off the com port.
>
> Nasty... I've had executables that went "bad" for some reason. Never =
found
> out why.
>
> ISTR that if you hold down the Alt-key while booting the LX, it will =
give
> you a choice of booting from C with or without running autoexec.bat and
> likewise booting from D, with or without. It should never be impossible =
to
> boot the LX, no matter how many problems you have with autoexec.bat or
> config.sys as the system can skip the files. That's one of the things I
> really like about the LX.
>
> bye,
>
> Laust
>

thats true for the single speed LX, but on my DS it is impossible to
read the screen w/o the DS drivers. For this I always have a copy of my
boot files on the flash card and a short command which I can type
blinded to activate them. {it is "go.bat")
I had much practice in this some time ago when my 64 MB LX repetedly
crashed due to a bad keyboard contact to the mainboard. Fortunately I
could repair it myself.

Werner

(also being away from home in the moment but with a perfect functioning
LX :-)


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On Thursday, 10.05.2001 at 15:00 GMT, Joe Buford  wrote:
> Curtis,
> One more question:
>
> If an Errorlevel 1 is set indicating that "some files were not found or
> couldn't be opened" per the v1.73 Dbcheck.txt file, is an automatic
> Error level 3 set indicating "problems were found."?
>
> The reason I ask is to determine the best way to catch ANY error's in my
> db's
> Right now my db_check.bat file (nothing fancy) reads as follows:
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>
According to what's being received here from your post,
it appears that your db_check.bat really isn't that fancy :-)

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On Thu, 10 May 2001 10:23:50 +0200, Bel, Michel wrote:

> Hello people

Hello there

> I could not resist the option to acquire a Sandisk 220MB card for $80 ;-)

Wow that is cheap. Was it on Ebay or similar?

 (
> A wild bid which surprisingly got accepted).

Did you buy it from a private person or a company.

>  So, I would like to get some advice on what to store on it.
> I already have some ebooks, since I have a Gutenberg CD-Rom. In goes also
> the CIA factbook.

I use the card to take backup of the C drive. I have a 110mb Sandisk. I
also have the CIA factbook and everything else I can think of. I have
now about 75 mb free. So I need advice too :-)

> So: Users with BIG flashcards, what are you using the thing for? Any wild
> advice welcome.

There is a encylopedia out there that works on the Hplx isn't it?

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On Thu, 10 May 2001 08:00:17 -0700, Joe Buford wrote:

> The reason I ask is to determine the best way to catch ANY error's in my
> db's
> Right now my db_check.bat file (nothing fancy) reads as follows:

Not sure if my setup help you out. It will pause if there are errors.
It will not go on and run Lxbackup if there are errors. I have to check
the db's manually to find the one that are corrupt though.

Here is my night.bat file:

Night.bat:
Echo off
call dbsjekk.bat
Call backup.bat
off.com

Dbsjekk.bat:
c:
cd \
cd doc
dbcheck *.?db
if errorlevel 1 goto error
g:
cd \
cd doc
cd mbdbase
dbcheck *.?db
cd ..
cd mbnotes
dbcheck *.?db
if errorlevel 1 goto error
if errorlevel 0 goto end

:error
echo Warning! A possibly corrupted file was detected!
echo Files were not backed up.
Pause
:end


backup.bat:
rem @echo off
a:
cd \
cd back200
cd cdrive
rem deltree /y *.*
g:
cd \
cd usr
cd lxbackup
maxdos.com lxbackup.exe
a:
cd \
cd back200
cd cdrive
c:
cd \
attrib -h pack1.jam
copy pack1.jam a:
attrib +h pack1.jam

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Bergvill mailto:martin@MOBILPOST.COM
> On Thu, 10 May 2001 10:23:50 +0200, Bel, Michel wrote:
>
> > Hello people
>
> Hello there
>
> > I could not resist the option to acquire a Sandisk 220MB
> card for $80 ;-)
>
> Wow that is cheap. Was it on Ebay or similar?
>
> > A wild bid which surprisingly got accepted).
>
> Did you buy it from a private person or a company.
>

't was on a Dutch second-hands Internet board, offered 1 single card by a
private person, asking price was Dfl 350, I offered Dfl 200 plus shipping,
which was accepted. And is is an industrial grade card too.

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Ciao!

I have a HP200lx, and today I have a problem...

When I press "&" key, I don't see, I don't have applications...

If I press CTRL+ALT+DEL or CTRL+SHIFT+ON there isn't changes...

Why?

:-(




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Ops!

I posted in HTML...

Excuse me!!!

:-(

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minix. It takes about 40MB.


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Subject: Re: What to do with a big flashcard?


On Thu, 10 May 2001 10:23:50 +0200, Bel, Michel wrote:

> Hello people

Hello there

> I could not resist the option to acquire a Sandisk 220MB card for $80 ;-)

Wow that is cheap. Was it on Ebay or similar?

 (
> A wild bid which surprisingly got accepted).

Did you buy it from a private person or a company.

>  So, I would like to get some advice on what to store on it.
> I already have some ebooks, since I have a Gutenberg CD-Rom. In goes also
> the CIA factbook.

I use the card to take backup of the C drive. I have a 110mb Sandisk. I
also have the CIA factbook and everything else I can think of. I have
now about 75 mb free. So I need advice too :-)

> So: Users with BIG flashcards, what are you using the thing for? Any wild
> advice welcome.

There is a encylopedia out there that works on the Hplx isn't it?

Regards

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Date:         Fri, 11 May 2001 11:33:38 -0700
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As far as I know, minix does not run on the 200LX - unless there has been
an update?

Also, fwiw, minix takes 30 MB.

-Mike


On Fri, 11 May 2001, Ed Padin wrote:

> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:15:22 -0400
> From: Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: What to do with a big flashcard?
>
> minix. It takes about 40MB.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.eduOn Behalf Of
> Martin Bergvill
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:34 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: What to do with a big flashcard?
>
>
> On Thu, 10 May 2001 10:23:50 +0200, Bel, Michel wrote:
>
> > Hello people
>
> Hello there
>
> > I could not resist the option to acquire a Sandisk 220MB card for $80 ;-)
>
> Wow that is cheap. Was it on Ebay or similar?
>
>  (
> > A wild bid which surprisingly got accepted).
>
> Did you buy it from a private person or a company.
>
> >  So, I would like to get some advice on what to store on it.
> > I already have some ebooks, since I have a Gutenberg CD-Rom. In goes also
> > the CIA factbook.
>
> I use the card to take backup of the C drive. I have a 110mb Sandisk. I
> also have the CIA factbook and everything else I can think of. I have
> now about 75 mb free. So I need advice too :-)
>
> > So: Users with BIG flashcards, what are you using the thing for? Any wild
> > advice welcome.
>
> There is a encylopedia out there that works on the Hplx isn't it?
>
> Regards
>
> --
>   ___
> Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway
>
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Date:         Fri, 11 May 2001 17:47:21 -0500
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Well I thought it couldn't happen to me; the dreaded  hinge crack (right
side). Mine was a combination of the hinge being a wee bit too snug and a 3
foot drop followed by a sudden stop. I've read many discussions of repair
and superglue seems like the repair agent of choice (although the epoxy and
brass strips provides an elegant alternative). My question centers around
the best and most durable adhesive to use on this type of plastic. The
major advances in adhesive technology have produced a bewildering array of
alternatives. Given the fact that the glue application is pretty much a
one-shot repair effort (no pun intended) I want to get it right the first
time. The replacement upper case is a reasonable (albeit complicated)
repair alternative. What are the alternatives to superglue that will fuse
this plastic back together (permanently) and not cause future degradation
of the plastic upper case material. Thanks in advance,

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I posted a message to Nathalie regarding "crawling out of
troubles".

Several people sent a thank you. I am not sure what to make of
these thank you notes. One was a 2 liner. The others were
repeats IN FULL QUOTATION of the entire message I posted -
including the signature line added by the Listserver. At the
end they added a one or 2 liner of thanks.

To those of you who decided to abuse my bandwidth, and behave
like "quote hogs" - I am not appreciative. Your thanks are NOT
WELCOME, and I wish you kept them to yourselves.

You should know that you make a great case to convince me to
NEVER post anything useful in public here. Or risk your abuse
and inconsideration. From now on, it is individual posts to
individuals - and you will lose the benefit of any experience.

When will you learn? Have you all not noticed that this
stupid, thoughless behaviour chases away the best talents we
have in this community? Are you really so stupid? When will
you pigs stop?

To the one individual who sent a 2 liner thank you note - you
are welcome, and I appreciate your response.

The rest of you stupid pigs who sent me huge quotations - go
to hell!

(I am sure Al will want me to resign after this. I will
gladly, I don't think I deserve to be here after this
message... Just let me know, Al!)

   Joe


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Date:         Fri, 11 May 2001 21:23:30 -0400
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Hello

The 200LX's sticky shift key has gotten me used to that. Does anyone know
of something for a laptop running Win95 that will do the same? Make the
shift key stick? Thanks.

John
Sent using a big clumsy PC.
Wish I was using my 200LX!!

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This is a warning.

The firm I'm telling you about, Dial-A-Battery, has a Web site
and purports to sell small batteries such as are used in
computers, cameras, and watches, but digging deeper reveals
references to emergency road replacement of car batteries, and
Internet searching reveals them to be an auto parts store.
URL: www.dialabattery.com
e-mail: sales@dialabattery.com

They have received three complaints in the last year directed
to the Long Island (New York) Better Business Bureau. They failed
to provide the BBB with information about themselves.

I didn't know all of this at the outset. I wanted PX825's badly.
I ordered four PX825's from them, using my checking account
number. They said they would arrive in three days. My checking
account was charged promptly, in the agreed amount. A week later
they had not arrived. I called. They said they had been sent out
the day before, and would arrive in two days. A week later, they
had not arrived, and I was told the order must have gotten lost
on somebody's desk. Another week later I was told they were
back ordered, but had arrived and I would receive them in three
days. At that point I froze my checking account, and ASAP will
report them to the Long Island BBB and the Internet Fraud site.

FWIW.

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Date:         Fri, 11 May 2001 23:01:44 -0500
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John Musielewicz asked about sticky keys in Wndoz

Don't the accessibility functions in Windoz have a sticky key thing?  I
tried this a long long time ago and decided I didn't like them.  On Win98 if
I press the shift key 5 times in a row I get a box telling me that the
StickeyKeys feature has been turned on. I have to press ESC so as not to
enable it.

.ed.

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I thank the following for pointing me to "ALT" during boot-up:

 From: Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
 From: Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
 From: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
 ...and especially
 From: "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM>
 for his long, detailed explanation for which i have the following
questions:

 >Most times, I noted that the HP C drive (not the added memory)
 >is rather volatile. When you have problems like you describe,
 >that drive and its content will be corrupted quickly, while
 >the added memory remains quite sturdy and maintains its content well.

you mean drive "F"; the "C" is the added after Mack's drivers did the
conversion in the 32/64/96 units?

 >I keep a copy of autoexec.bat, config.sys, and all the drivers in
 >A: drive in a directory called "savemy.ass" or some such name <g>
 >Do not keep these files on the root directory of A drive!

i didn't know you can name a directory using a "." between letters 10 long
(btw. i rather like the name - anyone has other "colorful" 8.3 ones? :))

 >However, in most cases, the name of the drive is changed
 >during the CONFIG.SYS phase of the boot when booting
 >ith Times2Tech drivers. That drive will be known after the boot
 >process as F drive (or G). The added memory will be known after the
 >boot as drive C.

this only applies to units with 32mb added memory or higher; up to 8mb only
uses the speed driver. I still haven't figured why i can't keep my boot
files and TSRs in a: root dir. My autoexec boots to c: where it also loads
all the TSRs.

now to another q:
my lx acted strangely last night - in filer all directory names were
replaced by a DRIVE NOT EXISTING message. booting fixed the error, but it
happened again sometime later

Nathalie fra doc

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Date:         Sat, 12 May 2001 09:11:45 -0400
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At 11:01 PM 5/11/01 -0500, you wrote:
>John Musielewicz asked about sticky keys in Wndoz
>
>Don't the accessibility functions in Windoz have a sticky key thing?  I
>tried this a long long time ago and decided I didn't like them.  On Win98 if
<snip>

Thanks Ed

I checked it out. Its not quite like the LX's sticky key feature, but it
comes pretty close. I disabled alot of the setting including the one you
mentioned since I want to keep it enabled all the time. It also enables the
alt and ctrl keys but no fn. Thanks alot for the suggestion, I wouldn't
have known about it since I haven't done a full install of windows on my
notebook.

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Bel, Michel wrote:
 > So: Users with BIG flashcards, what are you using the thing
for? Any wild
> advice welcome.

I've been using my 160 meg card mainly to transfer stuff from my
desktop to my laptop and back.  It saves me from connecting the
Zip drive to the laptop.

I can't think of a good reason to put it in my 200lx.  I never
filled up my 40 meg card.  But I'm sure that's where it'll end
up.  Now that I know I can have the space whenever I want it,
that 40 meg card seems to be filling up slowly.  I don't think
it'll hold out much longer.  :)

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Date:         Sat, 12 May 2001 12:15:33 -0400
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Actually, it does. You have to get the port that Mack Bagette did. It runs
well without crashes but cannot access the Dos filesystem. It would be great
if we could port an eterhnet driver to it as it already has all the
networking code.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Cheponis mailto:mac@Wireless.Com
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Ed Padin
Cc: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: What to do with a big flashcard?


As far as I know, minix does not run on the 200LX - unless there has been
an update?

Also, fwiw, minix takes 30 MB.

-Mike


On Fri, 11 May 2001, Ed Padin wrote:

> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:15:22 -0400
> From: Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: What to do with a big flashcard?
>
> minix. It takes about 40MB.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.eduOn Behalf Of
> Martin Bergvill
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:34 AM
> To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
> Subject: Re: What to do with a big flashcard?
>
>
> On Thu, 10 May 2001 10:23:50 +0200, Bel, Michel wrote:
>
> > Hello people
>
> Hello there
>
> > I could not resist the option to acquire a Sandisk 220MB card for $80
;-)
>
> Wow that is cheap. Was it on Ebay or similar?
>
>  (
> > A wild bid which surprisingly got accepted).
>
> Did you buy it from a private person or a company.
>
> >  So, I would like to get some advice on what to store on it.
> > I already have some ebooks, since I have a Gutenberg CD-Rom. In goes
also
> > the CIA factbook.
>
> I use the card to take backup of the C drive. I have a 110mb Sandisk. I
> also have the CIA factbook and everything else I can think of. I have
> now about 75 mb free. So I need advice too :-)
>
> > So: Users with BIG flashcards, what are you using the thing for? Any
wild
> > advice welcome.
>
> There is a encylopedia out there that works on the Hplx isn't it?
>
> Regards
>
> --
>   ___
> Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway
>
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Date:         Sat, 12 May 2001 12:22:06 -0400
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Excessive quoting on the list is a problem but so is flame bait. I think
your reaction was a bit excessive.

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Joe H. Smith
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 7:03 PM
To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Subject: Disgusting Pigs


>The rest of you stupid pigs who sent me huge quotations - go
>to hell!

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Date:         Sat, 12 May 2001 21:44:12 +0200
Reply-To:     Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Why not store a film on it?
Use the EVA player found on super. You can convert ordinary
uncompressed AVI:s to EVA.


Bel, Michel wrote:
> Hello people
> I could not resist the option to acquire a Sandisk 220MB card for $80 =
;-) (
> A wild bid which surprisingly got accepted).
>  So, I would like to get some advice on what to store on it.
> I already have some ebooks, since I have a Gutenberg CD-Rom. In goes =
also
> the CIA factbook.
>
> So: Users with BIG flashcards, what are you using the thing for? Any =
wild
> advice welcome.
>
> Michel
>

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Sat, 12 May 2001 16:03:39 -0400
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> I have a old hp 95lx can I APPLY the same reading for the hp 95lx?
>
> sarial # is:ABA3210A00559

Sorry, I don't know if the 95LX serial numbers work the same or not.

 Steven A. Carder M.D. <steve@carderfamily.net>
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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 00:38:11 +0200
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Le Sat, 12 May 2001 16:03:39 -0400
Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET> a =E9crit:

> > I have a old hp 95lx can I APPLY the same reading for the hp 95lx?
> >
> > sarial # is:ABA3210A00559

As far I remember, you have :

   ABA : If I remember, it was according to the software language :
             ABA: American English, ABE: English, ABF: French..
   32 : year since 1960 =3D 1992
   10 : number of the week.=20
          But, if I remember, it was then the HP fiscal year, not
          begining the 1st of january...
    A : Country : A=3DAmerica, S=3DSingapore
    00559 : 559th manufactured in the week.
   =20
This scheme applied to all HP calculators palmtops and calculators,
until 1993 or 1994.

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hi werner

 >you have my deepest sympathy. must have been a hard time you had there.

somehow i knew there was a way to boot slowly, but i couldn't remember the
"alt" solution because all laptops have the F10 "safe boot" options.
next time i'll also pack my backup LX100 - never failed me so far!

toi toi toi
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 "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM> had a bad day writing:

 >The rest of you stupid pigs who sent me huge quotations - go to hell!

first of all, "hell" doesn't exist! second, the "huge quotations" were sent
to everyone on the list, and third we don't need you to empty your negative
emotions here.

 >I am sure Al will want me to resign after this. I will gladly,
 >I don't think I deserve to be here after this message... Just let
 >me know, Al!

"deserve"? sounds like suicide ... take my advice: never destroy the bridges
you crossed behind you - PalmPilot-L may harbour even more "disgusting pigs"

Nathalie

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hi Joe and fellow Yahoo members

since some of you have yahoo addresses ie: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM could anyone
of you tell me if it is possible to stop Yahoo from sending me weekly
junkmail proclaiming to come from Nigeria. Their addresses sound like:
 gauis_onuu@yahoo.com
 tondaba2000@yahoo.com
and even from the UK:
 jacksoncoulibaly@yahoo.co.uk

my collection this year includes:
 1 Chinedu Collins, a Sierra Leonean refugee
 2 Dele Johnson, the Chief Accountant of the Nigerian Football
 3 Gauis Onuorah, Auditor General to Audit Government Account Nigeria
 4 ANTHONY ADABA, national petroleum corporation
 5 MARIAM ABACHA, wife of the late and former head of state of nigeria
 6 Engr.Bala David, Economic Recovery Committee
 7 MICHAEL SANKOH, National Diamond and Gold Mining Co-operation Sierra
Leone
 8 JACKSON COULIBALY jackson medical center Cote d'Ivoire
 9 ANTHONY MUKORO a Director with the Federal Ministry of Petroleum

all want my account number to "deposit" around 25 Million US

should i give it to them?

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On Sun, 13 May 2001 06:50:15 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> hi Joe and fellow Yahoo members
> all want my account number to "deposit" around 25 Million US

Snipped alot

> should i give it to them?
>
> Nathalie MD France

This is a well know scam which has been floating around for years. They
want you to sign a letter of "something". Then they are supposed to
deposit $xx on your account. But instead they transfer all the money
you have on the account to them.


The letter you were supposed to sign gives them the right to withdraw
any money on your account.

All they are after is _your_ money. So I would recommend to not give
them anything. Hit the button above the number "7" on you Hplx keyboard
:-)

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 14:55:01 +0700
Reply-To:     Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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From:         Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
Subject:      GRIC with Goin Postal ?
MIME-Version: 1.0

At the moment I am trying to find out if I could get a connection
working over a GRIC member. Last year as I was in Holland I tried to
connect my Goin Postal with a local GRIC member ISP but got
somewhere stuck in the logging in procedure.
It seems that you have to insert somewhere the name of your original
ISP and a password.
Has somebody on the list been successful with a login with Goin Postal
or should I wait for another special offer from AVI?
How long is the trial period for WWWLX?



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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 11:48:43 +0000
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
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The May 1991 issue of BYTE (Volume 16, Number 5, Page 44)
had the cover story:

"HP95LX: A complete PC, plus Lotus 1-2-3, for under $700
Best Palmtop Ever?"

It was this magazine which draw my attention to the HP95.
I used an Atari Portfolio at that time. I still keep the
issue, but I cut the article and now I cannot find it :-(

Anyway, its fun to leaf through this old BYTE and see the first
25MHZ 486, 8MB, 200MB, VGA, Win3.0 appear at > $4000.

The HP95 was not that far away from such a system, compared
to what you get today for $4000 in relation to an upgraded
$700 HP200LX.

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 12:20:52 +0200
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sun, 13 May 2001, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> It was this magazine which draw my attention to the HP95.
> I used an Atari Portfolio at that time. I still keep the
> issue, but I cut the article and now I cannot find it :-(

I'll have a look around. I remember reading that article, I might still
have the issue somewhere... If I find it, I'll scan it.

> Anyway, its fun to leaf through this old BYTE and see the first
> 25MHZ 486, 8MB, 200MB, VGA, Win3.0 appear at > $4000.

Slightly OT this, but Byte was an excellent magazine that aimed less at
the consumer market and more at the industry than many other magazines
(hence it was more "serious" or technical). It's a shame it folded. I know
there is a web-based version now, but it just doesn't compare, even if
Jerry Pournelle still writes his column :-)


bye,

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 07:32:58 -0400
Reply-To:     Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
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Of course, these are scams - it only takes a few seconds to realize this,
and I am sure you did.

The only real advice I can give is to access your Yahoo mail account and
when you get mail like this, simply "Block this address" to avoid seeing
mail from that sender again.

You will see mail from these folks once, but only once.

Another alternative would be to have your email filtered using a desktop
email client as a "relay" machine...

You would set up two yahoo mail accounts: Everything@yahoo.com and
Selected@yahoo.com.

You would only give out your Everything@yahoo.com email address.

You would have a PC running Outlook/Eudora/whatever and have it download
your email from Everything@yahoo.com and then apply rules to determine what
gets forwarded to Selected@yahoo.com, what gets trashed, and what gets held
for later review. An ideal rule, if available, would be to forward all mail
from addresses in you raddress book, for example.

You then download your email from Selected@yahoo.com and enjoy a *nearly*
spam-free mail experience.

Yahoo tries to filter out such mail, maybe they have some sort of program
you could forward these emails to for inclusion in future blocking at the
ISP/Yahoo level. (I think Earthlink has a similar offering to limit Spam).

On a related note, I only *just* got the "bank account" email, after 10+
years online... I can't believe how lucky I have been, spam-wise. I have one
simple rule - never *ever* erply to spam, no matter what the promise to
remove me from their maillist. By not responding, I appear as a dead email
address, and get removed fairly quickly, it would seem.

HTH,

Ken

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathalie Bugeaud" <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:50 AM
Subject: FLUFF: Yahoo junk mail


> hi Joe and fellow Yahoo members
>
> since some of you have yahoo addresses ie: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM could anyone
> of you tell me if it is possible to stop Yahoo from sending me weekly
> junkmail proclaiming to come from Nigeria. Their addresses sound like:
>  gauis_onuu@yahoo.com
>  tondaba2000@yahoo.com
> and even from the UK:
>  jacksoncoulibaly@yahoo.co.uk
>
> my collection this year includes:
>  1 Chinedu Collins, a Sierra Leonean refugee
>  2 Dele Johnson, the Chief Accountant of the Nigerian Football
>  3 Gauis Onuorah, Auditor General to Audit Government Account Nigeria
>  4 ANTHONY ADABA, national petroleum corporation
>  5 MARIAM ABACHA, wife of the late and former head of state of nigeria
>  6 Engr.Bala David, Economic Recovery Committee
>  7 MICHAEL SANKOH, National Diamond and Gold Mining Co-operation Sierra
> Leone
>  8 JACKSON COULIBALY jackson medical center Cote d'Ivoire
>  9 ANTHONY MUKORO a Director with the Federal Ministry of Petroleum
>
> all want my account number to "deposit" around 25 Million US
>
> should i give it to them?
>
> Nathalie MD France
>
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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 07:45:16 -0400
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From:         "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM>
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Ed Padin wrote:

> Excessive quoting on the list is a problem but so is flame bait. I think
> your reaction was a bit excessive.

Thank you for the feedback. Needless to say, we disagree <g>.
There has to be _some_ point where the pigs awaken. So many
requests and discussion have gone by with no response from the
pigs.

One can argue that thicker skins are useful in our list. True
enough. But the pigs' behaviour undermines the _quality_ of
our community. Their behaviour convinces major Palmtop
supporters and talents to leave the community. Where does it
stop?

  Joe


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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 07:50:34 -0400
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FYI, Egghead is selling 128 Meg CF cards from Viking for < $125, ($123.98
IIRC) and there is a $25 rebate, good for up to *five* or *ten* parts per
address/family. Final price $100.

See: http://www.egghead.com/category/inv/00061766/03858334.htm

Hope this helps folks looking for *huge* CF cards... Obviously, this card
would require a CF ._ PCMCIA adapter for use in a 100LX or 200LX.

Ken
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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 09:57:56 -0400
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From:         "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM>
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Nathalie Bugeaud ably wrote:
> hi Joe and fellow Yahoo members
>
> since some of you have yahoo addresses ie: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM could anyone
> of you tell me if it is possible to stop Yahoo from sending me weekly
> junkmail proclaiming to come from Nigeria. Their addresses sound like:
>  gauis_onuu@yahoo.com
   ...

Unfortunately, the scammers keep sending the junk. Never reply
to any of these, and never try to remove yourself from any
such mailings, because when you do all it tells them is that
you are a legitimate email address and they sell it to the
next list as a "hot one" (little do they know about you! <g>)

As to sending them money: Well there are a few anecdotes of
morons and imbeciles who believed it and they found empty bank
accounts, that's all. The old saying is true: If it sounds too
good to be true, it is not true.

   Joe


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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 09:57:58 -0400
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From:         "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM>
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Nathalie Bugeaud ably wrote:

>  From: "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM>
>  for his long, detailed explanation for which i have the following
> questions:
>
>  >Most times, I noted that the HP C drive (not the added memory)
>  >is rather volatile. When you have problems like you describe,
>  >that drive and its content will be corrupted quickly, while
>  >the added memory remains quite sturdy and maintains its content well.
>
> you mean drive "F"; the "C" is the added after Mack's drivers did the
> conversion in the 32/64/96 units?

The drive that Mack's memory board adds is usually VERY STRONG
and remains usually fine, even after days (and in one case I
know of after 4 weeks without batteries!)

The drive that "loses its mind" is the one HP built - which
would be 0.3MB, or 1.3MB, or 3.3MB.

The problem with using names is that part of the boot process
using Mack's drivers renames the drives. What starts out as C:
drive ends up as F drive (or even G, if you add other
devices), and what starts out as F becomes C drive at the end
of the boot up process.

>  >I keep a copy of autoexec.bat, config.sys, and all the drivers in
>  >A: drive in a directory called "savemy.ass" or some such name <g>
>  >Do not keep these files on the root directory of A drive!
>
> i didn't know you can name a directory using a "." between letters 10 long
> (btw. i rather like the name - anyone has other "colorful" 8.3 ones? :))

Directories may be named by an extension.

The most colorful name I know is "bellfry" to keep the bat
files. (un beffroi.)

> this only applies to units with 32mb added memory or higher; up to 8mb only
> uses the speed driver.

Yes. The naming issue comes to play only when the mmory is
installed as an additional drive.

> I still haven't figured why i can't keep my boot
> files and TSRs in a: root dir. My autoexec boots to c: where it also loads
> all the TSRs.

When you boot, the computer looks for CONFIG.SYS on A:, then
on B:, then on C:. It will use the first one it finds. You
could keep the CONFIG.SYS on the A: drive. But many of us swap
PCMCIAs and it is not the best practice.

> now to another q:
> my lx acted strangely last night - in filer all directory names were
> replaced by a DRIVE NOT EXISTING message. booting fixed the error, but it
> happened again sometime later

This occurs when the Filer loses its connection to the A:
drive. It happens to me occasionally too, and reboot helps.
Sometimes, just turning the machine off, removing and
reinserting the PCMCIA card does the trick.

I hope the pigs will not send me thank you notes quoting this
message in full. I am tired of the pigs.

   Joe


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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 09:58:00 -0400
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From:         "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      My last post (was: Disgusting Pigs)
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Al Kind did write a nice email to me. He pointed out that
while perhaps my pig rant was justified, it was not necessary
to send to the entire list.

He further asks that I either post an apology to the list by
Monday, or leave the list.

I am very sorry that the pigs among us continue unscathed and
untouched, while I am asked to apologize for speaking out
against their practice of being pigs.

My choice would be to ask the pigs apologize in public to all
of us who have had to endure their thoughtlessness. Or BETTER
YET: Forget the apology, just change the way you post and
apply more consideration.

But I suppose the sentiment in the list is to tolerate the pigs,
and kick the protestors.

So I find myself having no other choice but to bid you all a
goodbye. I have been here for a long time lurking under a
friend's email address after he sold his 200LX. I then
switched recently to my own account because I wanted to start
posting. It was a mixture of fun and less-than-fun to be here,
mostly because of the pigs.

By for now!

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 16:08:48 +0200
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From:         Jacques Belin <jbelin@ALTERN.ORG>
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Le Sun, 13 May 2001 11:48:43 +0200
Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE> a =E9crit:

> The HP95 was not that far away from such a system, compared
> to what you get today for $4000 in relation to an upgraded
> $700 HP200LX.

You cannot compare a 1993 palmtop to 2001 machines... I don't remember
what was the "standard" desktop when the HP100 was released but I think t=
he
hole was not yet created... It was created in 1994, when the HP200 was
released, with the same hardware specifications.=20
Desktop makers decided to follow Moore instead of HP...=20

If HP would have continued to improve the HPx00 line, I don't think the
hole would be greater...

Remember that the HP95 was running at 4.77 Mhz, and I think the top of
the line was at least a 486 at 50Mhz... A ratio more than 1 to 10
(regardless of the 8/32 bits hardware architecture. If I take that into
account, it is worse)...

Now a machine like HP720 is running at 200Mhz, and the Pentium 4 is
running at 1.4 Mhz. We are now at a 1/7 ratio...

About storage, we had, when the HP95 was released, 2Mb SRAM, Desktops
had 340Mb, if I remember. Then a 1/170 Ratio.
The first Sundisk/Sandisk cards were released in november/december of 199=
2.
The top was the 10Mb card (around $1000, if IIRC <g>). Don't remember
what was the hard disk top of line at this time.
Now, we have 1GB PCMCIA cards, and the top of line for the the hard
drive is 80GB. The ratio is down to 1/80 ;-)

I don't know if it is pertinent to discuss about memory, but now the
standard desktop machines have only twice the memory of a HP720...

However, I think there is one field where an hole has been created. But
it is perhaps as for ergonomical reasons than technologicals. It is
about screen resolution. No palmtop screen can give you at least a basic
VGA resolution (640x480).  :-(

It is perhaps the only thing forbidding us to have our dreamed
200Mhz/32MbRam/1GbHardDrive/TrueVGA palmtop...

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 22:11:19 +0800
Reply-To:     Adrian Ho <aholx@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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From:         Adrian Ho <aholx@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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On Sun, 13 May 2001, Ken Hansen wrote:

> By not responding, I appear as a dead email address, and get
> removed fairly quickly, it would seem.

Hmmm...I haven't replied to a single spam I've received, yet
some of them just keep coming back.  Seems like casino and porn
site mailing list managers are a lazy bunch of bums.  8-)

One of these days, if I get PO'd enough, I just might figure out
how to fake legitimate-looking bounces.  Until then, it's the
'D' key (and the middle digit) to the lot of 'em.

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 10:49:28 -0400
Reply-To:     Larry Tachna <ltachna@ATT.NET>
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From:         Larry Tachna <ltachna@ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: 10 Years HP Palmtops
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>>Anyway, its fun to leaf through this old BYTE and see the first
>>25MHZ 486, 8MB, 200MB, VGA, Win3.0 appear at > $4000.

I remember buying my first IBM PC for about that much and it wasn't an xt
just a plain 64K 8086 4mhz daul 5 inch floppies

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 10:18:57 -0700
Reply-To:     Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
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Nathalie Bugeaud ably wrote:
> i didn't know you can name a directory using a "." between
>letters 10 long. (btw. i rather like the name - anyone has
>other "colorful" 8.3 ones? :))

On every client pc I've worked on since 1995, and all my own
computers, I've created a directory called RESET.
(ie c:\reset.dir) and written an batch file called reset.bat
which copies all the system files from within the reset
directory. In reset.dir I keep autoexec.bat, config.sys, any
initial loadup sys files, all the windows .ini files

My personal favorite (though I could never remember it!)
o!@#&$%!.dam

Other .dir names used on clients' systems & mine have been:
original.set
reset.me
reset.now
reset.pc#  (where # is 1,2,3,4,5 etc up to 9 workstations)
normal.set
system.sav
system.set
recover.me
recover.pc
rescue.me
rescue.pc
rescue.pc# (see above)
return2.ok
remember.set
resume.2ok
normal.set
latest.bak
recent.bak

And a few that your email inspired:
res.cue
help-me.now
hey-wake.up
no-no-no.no
bad-pc.bad
you-lazy.pos
2hellwit.you
be-good.now
be-good2.me
satans.toy
takefive.out
give-me.dos
oh-my.god
windows.yuk
restart.pc
forget.not
reset.pc
recover.pc
renounce.pc
dumbdumb.dum
Ipd-good.$$$
notworth.it
2-be-or.not
dont-be.bad
ill-sell.you
snapouta.it
donttemt.me,
bootyour.ass
kickyour.ass
dontfail.me
i-want.dos
faulty.sys
get-back.pc
neversay.die
dontquit.yet
getback2.wrk
resist.chg
get-back.pc
illtrade.up
figureit.out
beagood.boy
computer.sux
mustbmon.day
time2go.now
dontgive.up
arrived.doa
benormal.now
notagain.no
why-me.god
stupid.pc
calledin.sic
pc.bad
tryagain.now
yerjusta.pos
warranty.out
all-hope.gon
anti-chr.ist
... the possibilities are endless.

Bob

 Bob Christopher  Littleton, Colorado USA  bob@palmtop.com
                      HP 200-LX Palmtop
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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 09:59:27 -0700
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Thanks Curtis.




Curtis Cameron <curtc@airmail.net> on 05/10/2001 08:36:45 PM

To:    Joseph.Buford@HSC.com, HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
cc:

Subject:  Re: Dbcheck


On Thu, 10 May 2001 08:00:17 -0700 Joseph.Buford@HSC.com wrote:
>If an Errorlevel 1 is set indicating that "some files were not found or
>couldn't be opened" per the v1.73 Dbcheck.txt file, is an automatic
>Error level 3 set indicating "problems were found."?
>
>The reason I ask is to determine the best way to catch ANY error's in my
>db's

It returns an ERRORLEVEL value of 1 if it can't open the file. When
you test for the ERRORLEVEL variable in a DOS batch file, the IF
command tests whether the ERRORLEVEL value is greater than or equal to
some value, so if its value is 3 and you use "IF ERRORLEVEL==1", then
this is considered true.

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 13:56:51 -0400
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> all want my account number to "deposit" around 25 Million US
>
> should i give it to them?

Only if you don't want or need the money in that account.  It is a scam =
to get
access to your account and rob you.

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 12:37:33 -0700
Reply-To:     Bob Christopher <bob@PALMTOP.COM>
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Anyone on the list who has an OB-430 please contact me
off-list at bob@palmtop.com
I need the volume name for Drive C. I am trying to reload
the original setup from diskettes and restore fails due to
the volume name. Thanks.

Bob

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Some people are too damn sensitive.

Others are incompetent.

Seems that humans inhabit this place.

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 16:53:17 -0500
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> The problem with using names is that part of the boot process
> using Mack's drivers renames the drives. What starts out as C:
> drive ends up as F drive (or even G, if you add other
> devices), and what starts out as F becomes C drive at the end
> of the boot up process.

Just a reminder about this; you don't *have* to swap the drives.
After I had to do a complete re-build from backups last fall, I
pondered why I really wanted to swap them.  I decided not to swap,
and see how I liked it.  I've been running over 6 months now, and
I haven't had any problems.  My C: drive is 1.5MB or so, and the
F: drive is 32MB. YMMV...

-Chris Lott

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On Sun, 13 May 2001 10:18:57 -0700, Bob Christopher wrote:

Bob

> And a few that your email inspired:
> res.cue
> help-me.now
> hey-wake.up
> no-no-no.no
> bad-pc.bad

and so on

All these really made me laugh

Thanks Bob :-)

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 15:26:53 -0700
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What an absolutely terrific idea! I'd pay money for a client or utility
program that would fake bounces to selected addresses or in response to
messages with subject lines containing specified key words.

Larry

At 07:11 AM 5/13/01, Adrian Ho wrote:
>One of these days, if I get PO'd enough, I just might figure out
>how to fake legitimate-looking bounces.

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 16:31:22 -0700
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I have received several requests for a copy on my db_check.bat file.

Many thanks to Curtis Cameron for making such a useful and necessary
utility and for his support of this utility, and Ulrich Boche for the copy
of his bat file as an example.

I used to feel, after ~7 years of using the phone book and 5 years of using
the Appt book, that I was immune to the problems that others had reported.
After last Jan, I found out I was wrong. I tried to extract 1999 from my
appt book. It still opened fine and seemed to work fine but had a bad week
that prevented extracting. Merging, extracting, garlic, etc. did not help.
Finally, I took out everything out from Jan 2000 to present and put it into
a new appt book. I think that the fastdb tsr I use may have been a factor,
but it is only speculation.

I have been using dbcheck religiously since and have had no further
problems.

The only thing I would like to add would be a way of stopping the file if
any of the db's are open at the time I run db_check.bat.

I backup a dbchecked phone.pdb, appt.adb, hplxtips.ndb and notes.ndb and
associated .txt files to a C_drive dir on my A:\(48MB ST CF). Backup
sequence for each db is: from the c:\_dat dir, dbcheck <file>.?db > create
<file>.txt file, if no errors, copy <file>.?db  and <file>.txt file to the
A:(root)dir, copy copy <file>.?db  and <file>.txt file to the A:
\C_drive\_bat dir. If there is an error, copying files is skipped. I also
include the history files for the games I play. This is usually done
several times a week.
 Follows is my db_check.bat file

@echo off
cd c:\_dat
echo  DB-checking : Appt.adb
dbcheck appt.adb > appt.txt
if errorlevel 1 echo Appt.adb is Bad!
if errorlevel 1 goto notes
a:\
copy a:\c_drive\_dat\appt.adb a:\appt.adb
copy a:\c_drive\_dat\appt.txt a:\appt.txt
c:\
copy appt.adb a:\c_drive\_dat\appt.adb
copy appt.txt a:\c_drive\_dat\appt.txt

:Notes
echo - DB-checking : Notes.ndb
dbcheck notes.ndb > notes.txt
if errorlevel 1 echo Notes.ndb is Bad!
if errorlevel 1 goto phone
a:\
copy a:\c_drive\_dat\notes.ndb a:\notes.ndb
copy a:\c_drive\_dat\notes.txt a:\notes.txt
c:\
copy notes.ndb a:\c_drive\_dat\notes.ndb
copy notes.txt a:\c_drive\_dat\notes.txt

:phone
echo - DB-checking : Phone.pdb
dbcheck phone.pdb > phone.txt
if errorlevel 1 echo Phone.pdb is Bad!
if errorlevel 1 goto hplxtips
a:\
copy a:\c_drive\_dat\phone.pdb a:\phone.pdb
copy a:\c_drive\_dat\phone.txt a:\phone.txt
c:\
copy phone.pdb a:\c_drive\_dat\phone.pdb
copy phone.txt a:\c_drive\_dat\phone.txt

:hplxtips
echo - DB-checking : Hplxtips.ndb
dbcheck hplxtips.ndb > hplxtips.txt
if errorlevel 1 echo Hplxtips.ndb is Bad!
if errorlevel 1 goto Games
a:\
copy a:\c_drive\_dat\hplxtips.ndb a:\hplxtips.ndb
copy a:\c_drive\_dat\hplxtips.txt a:\hplxtips.txt
c:\
copy hplxtips.ndb a:\c_drive\_dat\hplxtips.ndb
copy hplxtips.txt a:\c_drive\_dat\hplxtips.txt

:Games
c:\
copy c:\games\tetris.hi a:\c_drive\games\tetris.hi
copy c:\games\money.sav a:\c_drive\games\money.sav
copy c:\games\sol.res a:\c_drive\games\sol.res
copy c:\games\freecell.hst a:\c_drive\games\freecell.hst
copy c:\games\freecell.sav a:\c_drive\games\freecell.sav
c:\
copy c:\chrg_it\charg-it.bat a:\c_drive\chrg_it\charg-it.bat

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 20:21:15 -0400
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I was browsing through the Thaddeus catalog and saw none of the larger
compact flash cards are marked as needing the driver to work in the 200LX.
Do compact flash cards not need the driver?

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Date:         Sun, 13 May 2001 20:21:16 -0400
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I tried running TimeTracker on my desktop but couldn't exit using except by
using the menu which wouldn't come up by pressing the alt key. Does
timetracker have a hot key sequence to exit or call up the menu?

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Al:

You were wrong.  We need honorable, capable people like Joe.  So many have been driven out.

We do not need people who think that it is appropriate to say "I agree", "Way to go", etc., to an individual through the public media of the
list. That they quote when no quote is necessary is are additional sins, and bandwidth heavy for those users who are bandwidth
lightweights.  I, a long-time mainly lurker, personally am offended by any message that does not add substance to discussions.

Joe reasonably was angry.  To ask him to leave without chastising the others is...  Ah. please fill in your own blank.

Steve, ready to depart, in Portland, Oregon

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There was a discussion here a while ago about the
best max. line length of postings so they don't wrap
on HPLX-based mail and news readers. I forgot what
the optimum line length was. Can somebody help?

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John Musielewicz wrote:

> I was browsing through the Thaddeus catalog and saw none of the larger
> compact flash cards are marked as needing the driver to work in the =
200LX.
> Do compact flash cards not need the driver?

I have exactly the same question. Besides I wondered about the
large sizes and contacted Sandisk Germany. They say, the 512 CF
was presented at CeBit but only as fake. They expect them
available around automn 2001. The largest they have at that
time is a 300MB. The situation in the US might be different.

Stefan

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Do compact flash cards not need the driver?


I've used a 64MB CF card with a PCMCIA to CF adapter and never used a driver
with no problems.

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Date:         Mon, 14 May 2001 08:55:14 -0600
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John,

There are 8 stickey key program for DOS at
http://trace.wisc.edu/world/computer_access/dos/dosshare.html

I haven't tried any, so I can't say if the work well or not.

BTW, Another good source for shareware/freeware is the National Federation
for the Blind:
http://www.nfbnet.org/files/index.htm

For those who were asking a while back about diabetic tracking programs,
they have a few.

Regards,
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: John Musielewicz mailto:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 8:24 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Sticky shift key program for laptop


Hello

The 200LX's sticky shift key has gotten me used to that. Does anyone know
of something for a laptop running Win95 that will do the same? Make the
shift key stick? Thanks.

John
Sent using a big clumsy PC.
Wish I was using my 200LX!!

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Mon, 14 May 2001 11:15:55 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

 It seems prudent to remind the LIST that care should be taken
 to quote only the minimum required to clairify your point. "Thank
 you"s , "congratulations", etc... should be directed to the original
 author, not the LIST.

 In addition, it is poor "netiquette" to quote private messages to a
 public forum without the original author's permission ;-)

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Joe:

Although I agree with you, I do feel that you do need to show
restraint and good taste that those, to which your comments were
directed to, didn't. Also many of the people on the list aren't
so lazy. I do however hope you do remain on the list.

John A. Wittkamper :-)

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Generally, incompetence, carelessness and ignorance are often better
tolerated than rude, arrogant, insulting, intentional behavior.  The first
is not intentional, the second is purposeful and planned.

I am not bothered by your protest (I agree in spirit), it is the manner that
I, personally, find objectionable.

You've also wasted your time and efforts, the perps haven't learned yet and
the list has been over this issue before.

IMNSHO

Sally

The usual stuff about my opinions, not my employers, etc.

snip
But I suppose the sentiment in the list is to tolerate the pigs,
and kick the protestors.
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Date:         Mon, 14 May 2001 14:05:02 -0500
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From: John Musielewicz mailto:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET

<<I was browsing through the Thaddeus catalog and saw none of the larger
compact flash cards are marked as needing the driver to work in the 200LX.
Do compact flash cards not need the driver?>>

Good catch, John. We haven't tested them, but I would bet they (> 256 Meg)
do need a driver. When we get them, we'll test, and I'll report my results.

By the way any who wants and didn't get our new (yellow) catalog, email me
(with your snail mail address), or sign up at www.PalmtopPaper.com.

Note we have significantly reduced the price of most of our software
including CD Infobase and Software Carousel.  See our web site.

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Date:         Mon, 14 May 2001 17:20:50 -0400
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><<I was browsing through the Thaddeus catalog and saw none of the larger
>compact flash cards are marked as needing the driver to work in the 200LX.
>Do compact flash cards not need the driver?>>
>
>Good catch, John. We haven't tested them, but I would bet they (> 256 Meg)
>do need a driver. When we get them, we'll test, and I'll report my results.

Yes Hal please report whether they need it or not. How long will it be
before you get the 512 cards in? I am thinking of ordering one. Are compact
flash cards ata? I would like to use one as the boot drive for my omnibook.

John

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Date:         Mon, 14 May 2001 21:25:23 +0000
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Ulrich Boche wrote:
> There was a discussion here a while ago about the
> best max. line length of postings so they don't wrap
> on HPLX-based mail and news readers. I forgot what
> the optimum line length was. Can somebody help?

64 columns I think because that is the size of one of the zoom
windows.  Someone else said it should be a couple columns
narrower to account for a 64 column post being quoted.

I'm using 64.

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This loads minix from Dos, right?  Do you have a pointer to a web page
for the software?  (I'm getting pretty tired of the buggy HP software in my
200LX, so maybe it's time to wipe off that stuff and use something better.)

Thanks -Mike

On Sat, 12 May 2001, Ed Padin wrote:

> Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 12:15:33 -0400
> From: Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@yahoo.com>
> To: Mike Cheponis <mac@Wireless.Com>
> Cc: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: RE: What to do with a big flashcard?
>
> Actually, it does. You have to get the port that Mack Bagette did. It runs
> well without crashes but cannot access the Dos filesystem. It would be great
> if we could port an eterhnet driver to it as it already has all the
> networking code.

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> > The problem with using names is that part of the boot process
> > using Mack's drivers renames the drives.

> Just a reminder about this; you don't *have* to swap the drives.
> After I had to do a complete re-build from backups last fall, I
> pondered why I really wanted to swap them.  I decided not to swap,
> and see how I liked it.  I've been running over 6 months now, and
> I haven't had any problems.  My C: drive is 1.5MB or so, and the
> F: drive is 32MB. YMMV...

I remember trying that and was uncomfortable but now don't recall why.
I did have to change all my batch files and drive references and had
that all ironed out but still something was just not comfortable.  Maybe
it was the fact that the HP seems to want to default to the c: drive in
filer where I tend to leave the hp.  Maybe it it time to try again NOT
SWAPPING.

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> Note we have significantly reduced the price of most of our software
> including CD Infobase and Software Carousel.  See our web site.

Hal:

As long as we have you here (G)

Has Thaddeus come up with anyway to RE-INFORCE the infamous LID CRACK
area on those new lids you have?  Or do you just replace the lids with
unaltered lids?

And as an extension of this question - if not, could a person purchase
just the lid, alter it themselves with some form of internal "whatever"
and then ship that lid and their broken HP and have Thaddeue do the
changeover?

And yes, my 32megger just developed the darn crack!!!!!!

Thanks in advance.

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> This loads minix from Dos, right?  Do you have a pointer to a web page
> for the software?  (I'm getting pretty tired of the buggy HP software in my
> 200LX, so maybe it's time to wipe off that stuff and use something better.)

Which software do you consider buggy?  Most of it has been shaken down
and shaken out pretty well at this point.  And while I don't doubt you
may be having problems, it may be a combination of other software or
your configuration that might be causing the problem.

Now, the darn LID is buggy!!!!!!!!!!!! (sigh)

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Date:         Mon, 14 May 2001 22:35:30 EDT
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I was told that the acces numbers for PCAOL1.6 were no longer in service. A
recent search of AOL found this not to be true. AOL no longer supports the
program, but the numbers are still there. The only version I found was
compressed in MAC format. Does anyone have the program in PC format laying
around somewhere?

Thanks
Dennis

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The appointment book is buggy.  The other database software is buggy; that's
why there's "dbcheck".  I use only stock hp software and the "zip" program
to automatically back up my data, so I find it difficult to believe that
I have some "configuration" problem.  Have you noticed when you insert
a record into a database it seems to take O(n**3) time?  Didn't those
"software" people go to school and learn how to do inserts faster than that?

Quicken is also buggy.  Sometimes, when you try to enter digits into
numeric fields, it just doesn't do it!  I have to play with the shift key
and some other weirdnesses to get it to work.

About the only really decent ap seems to be the note taker, which is fast
and works as advertized.  And the calculator is OK (except shift- for
exponentiation - pleeze! And clustering important calculator keys FAR AWAY
from the numeric keypad, like square root, 1/x, and X<->Y ... what were
they smoking?).

I also like 1-2-3, although I think is is pathetic that HP did not provide
a complete reference for it in the HP 200LX User's Guide.

And, pleeeeeeze!  Don't get me started on the crummy hardware!  The hinge
is just the tip of the iceberg.  Yes, -EVERY- HP200LX I've owned (and I've
owned 4 of them, as well as a few 100LXs) has had display problems, usually
where one vertical line goes out, then more go out.

HP should be drawn and quartered for the 200LX!

(Now, don't get me wrong: I think the HP markerters who specified the
feature set and how the applications should work did an OK job.  But the
Mech Es and software people should all have been fired!)

Yes, I use it every day. Yes, it's better than all the other crap out
there, palms, CE, whatever.

But that's no reason we have to tolerate buggy h/w and s/w.  HP isn't,
after all, Microsoft, is it?

I just don't understand why the geniuses at HP didn't produce a future
300LX then 400LX etc building on this base, with bug fixes and enhancements.

They went to CE instead.

Pathetic, basically.

Ever since Dave and Bill have passed on, HP has become a shell of its
former self.  Too bad for all of us.

-Mike

On Tue, 15 May 2001 fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> From: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net
> To: Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM>, HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: What to do with a big flashcard?
>
>> This loads minix from Dos, right?  Do you have a pointer to a web page
>> for the software?  (I'm getting pretty tired of the buggy HP software in my
>> 200LX, so maybe it's time to wipe off that stuff and use something better.)
>
> Which software do you consider buggy?  Most of it has been shaken down
> and shaken out pretty well at this point.  And while I don't doubt you

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I have sub notebook computer for sale on eBay. It's a perfect compliment
to the LX:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1238170441

Jeff

             --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
             --  Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    --
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Date:         Tue, 15 May 2001 08:08:54 +0100
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Dennis Vest wrote:
>
> I was told that the acces numbers for PCAOL1.6 were no longer in =
service. A
> recent search of AOL found this not to be true. AOL no longer supports =
the
> program, but the numbers are still there. The only version I found was
> compressed in MAC format. Does anyone have the program in PC format =
laying
> around somewhere?

It should be availlable in their PALMTOP libraries. If you can't find
it you may get back to me.

I had it up and running on my 96 meg DS HP200LX three years ago. Access
was only possible through Sprintnet nodes. Sprintnet took these nodes
out of service which is why it did not work any more.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Tue, 15 May 2001 12:59:33 +0200
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I know that I can filter the subject line in News/LX but is it possible
to do that for the author of the message too?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Wed, 15 May 2002 10:12:45 -0500
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F. Kaufman wrote:
> I remember trying that and was uncomfortable but now
> I did have to change all my batch files and drive
> references and had that all ironed out but still something
> was just not comfortable.  Maybe it was the fact that the
> HP seems to want to default to the c: drive in filer where
> I tend to leave the hp.  Maybe it it time to try again NOT
> SWAPPING.

I've been keeping all my data for the built-in apps on A: for
years.  So far it's never been a problem except when I go to
create a new file I have to remember to create it on A:.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 15 May 2002 10:34:15 -0500
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Mike Cheponis wrote:
> And, pleeeeeeze!  Don't get me started on the crummy
> hardware!  The hinge is just the tip of the iceberg.  Yes,
> -EVERY- HP200LX I've owned (and I've owned 4 of
> them, as well as a few 100LXs) has had display problems,
> usually where one vertical line goes out, then more go out.

I have 2 100LXs and 3 200LXs and even 2 95LXs.  And I used to
have a 512k 95LX that I gave to my nephew and he still uses.

I had the problem with the 95lx where it always thought the
batteries were dead.  This was a well known problem and HP fixed
it free a year after it was out of warranty.

One of my 95LXs has lost a horizontal line.  But I got that for
$30 at a Pawn Shop so no telling what kind of treatment it had.
It's never gotten worse in about 2 years.

Other than that I've never had any kind of hardware problems.
Every one of these units was carried daily in my pocket and
occasionaly bumped against things and was dropped occasionally
and one of them was even dropped in 2 feet of water.  That's why
I have the third 200lx.  It was my only 2 meg unit and it quit
working so I bought another one.  Three days later it I checked
it and it ran fine.  I've used it ever since.

As for buggy software, you mention that the notepad is the only
bug free thing you've found but that's the only app that I've
found to be buggy.  I haven't used it in years but I think it
was some kind of bug when you selected stuff you couldn't get
rid of the selection and basically the document was ruined.  But
it was some special kind of selection and I cant remember what
now.

I've never had any other problems with the other apps.  But
you've probably used them more extensively than I have and
that's one of the things that happens when you use a lot of the
features.  You find the bugs that are in every program.  I found
a few of bugs in Lotus 2.0 that nobody else ever found.  I
happened to be working on a project with the Lotus development
people (not involving the spreadsheet directly) and I made sure
they knew about them.   Some were fixed in 2.1.  Some were not.
They were all clearly bugs.  Things happen.  Lotus 123 in those
days was very solid software.  But I was doing some very
intensive large scale macro writing and trying things that most
peope wouldn't bother with and I found the bugs.

I doubt that there is any program in existance where the heavy,
thorough user can't point out a few bugs.

I wrote a program in C at work that did some fairly complex file
format conversions on very complex file structures to convert
incomming data to our own format.  The program worked flawlessly
every day for 5 years and then one day it failed.  It found that
one odd combination of things that I hadn't thought to account
for.  I've always been proud of that one.  :)

Barry


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Date:         Tue, 15 May 2001 18:20:19 +0100
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Tomas

> I know that I can filter the subject line in News/LX but is it possible
> to do that for the author of the message too?

The new ROBONEWS/LX allows that. The filter condition will be applied
to everything which is in the header. I can't remember for NEWS/LX
however.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Tue, 15 May 2001 11:52:04 -0500
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From Fred Kaufman:

<<As long as we have you here (G)>>

I'm always here<g>. I read all the HPLX messages.

<<Has Thaddeus come up with anyway to RE-INFORCE the infamous LID CRACK
area on those new lids you have?  Or do you just replace the lids with
unaltered lids?>>

We replace them.

<<And as an extension of this question - if not, could a person purchase
just the lid, alter it themselves with some form of internal "whatever"
and then ship that lid and their broken HP and have Thaddeue do the
changeover?

And yes, my 32megger just developed the darn crack!!!!!!>>

We offer 2 options, unfortunately, nothing in between.  We'll sell anyone a
lid for $25, but you are on your own. (We only have announced this option on
this list). Alternatively, we charge $125 for any repair.

Hal at Thaddeus

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Date:         Wed, 16 May 2001 06:50:04 +0200
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Thanks to the following who commented on the Nigerian scam:

From:    Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
From:    Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
From:    "Joe H. Smith" <hplxmail@YAHOO.COM>
From:    Adrian Ho <aholx@SINGNET.COM.SG>
From:    Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>

So they clean out your account, but who are they? Nigerians? Why not
Philippinos or Indonesians where corruption is just as rife? I think they
are just Mafia crooks based in Little Rock AK.

One of our list members was so clever some time ago to CC his reply to one
of the "Nigerians" to me - they in turn must have indeed given my address to
his fellow crooks, or sold it to the competition - Russians?

Anyway, i'll soon change my address and service provider - my delete key is
worn out.

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Date:         Wed, 16 May 2001 06:51:28 +0200
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 >It was this magazine which draw my attention to the HP95. I used
 >an Atari Portfolio at that time.

i first saw the HP95 and Atari at a computer show at uni in 92 -  i bought
the Atari because it was half as much, ever regretting it afterward. it
locked each time a line ended with a space and losing all. i received a
refund and bought a Prolinear ... regretting it ever after (it died of
unknown causes); ah well, maybe Morphy1 will supersed the LX200?

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Date:         Wed, 16 May 2001 06:52:56 +0200
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 >Nathalie Bugeaud ably wrote:

i like the "ably" ;) but Joe didn't even have the time to read this

 >The drive that Mack's memory board adds is usually VERY STRONG
 >and remains usually fine, even after days (and in one case I know
 >of after 4 weeks without batteries!)

4 weeks without batteries? so it is a flash storage device?

and Sally ably commented:

 >The usual stuff about my opinions, not my employers, etc.

i never have to worry about my employer :) - they don't read English :)

 >snip But I suppose the sentiment in the list is to tolerate the
 >pigs, and kick the protestors. snip

well said, Sally, it is like in my profession - if a drunk does his thing
all over the floor we tolerate him - if he gets violent and starts using
colorful language we move him to where noone is offended - the dungeon!

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Date:         Wed, 16 May 2001 06:58:04 +0200
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>And a few that your email inspired:

quite an impressive list for just a little inspiration :)

 >no-no-no.no
 >you-lazy.pos

what's "pos"?

here some more 8.3:

hplx-l.way
ed-padin.fun
joesmith.pig (easy said - he's not here :)
manners.bad
al-kind.can
kick.out
thankless.job
nathalie.nut
repent.sin
london.ken
negative.iq
quote.all
lazy.bum
slow.day
internet.sex
toy.boy
blow.up
hard.on
bra.off
easy.lay
rubber.on
blonde.eat
squirt.gun
come.too
take-a.nap
that's.all
for.now

Jesus paid for our sins...now lets get our money's worth.

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Date:         Wed, 16 May 2001 09:55:47 +0200
Reply-To:     "Bel, Michel" <Michel.Bel@NL.ORIGIN-IT.COM>
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From:         "Bel, Michel" <Michel.Bel@NL.ORIGIN-IT.COM>
Subject:      Fluff: Looking for flashcard trade,
              or Omnibook 425 flash driver. .
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Slightly offlist, but I have not yet found an appropriate list:

I am looking to trade a Simpletech 48MB PCMCIA flashdisk - works fast and
perfect in 200LX, needs some driver for 100LX, for an older Sandisk 40MB
flashdisk - to pop in my recently acquired OB425. Preferably somewhere in
the EU or UK, as I live in the Netherlands.

Alternatively - if someone can point me to a driver to run a Simpletech card
in a OB425?

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On Wed, 16 May 2001, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> quite an impressive list for just a little inspiration :)
>
>  >no-no-no.no
>  >you-lazy.pos
>
> what's "pos"?

One of my favorites.  :)   Piece of sh*t.


> nathalie.nut

No.  Really?  :)

Ted

--
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Date:         Wed, 16 May 2001 14:53:17 +0200
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From:         "Bel, Michel" <Michel.Bel@ATOSORIGIN.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluff: Looking for flashcard trade,
              or Omnibook 425 flash dri ver. . - no more
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The previous message has been superseded: The Simpletech is recognized in C
but not in A or B in the OB425, so a swap was sufficient - weird but
sufficient.
So now another question: I look for the ROM image of the 425 update D:
Flash.( the Dos 6.2 update?) I can copy it to an Intel flash, so only the
image is necessary. Anyone know a pointer to it? ( or Can loan me their D
drive for a day ;-(

Michel



I wrote
> I am looking to trade a Simpletech 48MB PCMCIA flashdisk -

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Hal, do you guys repair 95LXs with a missing horizontal line of
pixels?  I don't know if it needs a screen or just to have some
connection fixed.

And, if you do, is the price lower than the $125 you charge for
the 200lx?  I don't think a 95lx is worth spending that much on.

Barry

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I'm using xgrep in DOS mode to read text from a file. Sometimes the lines
are longer than the screen and end up wrapping funny. For example,

this is the e
nd of it.

Is there some way to search for the maximum line length and then back up
and break the line? Using the example, you'd search for the end of the
line, find "e", back up to the space before it and break the line, like so:

this is the
end of it.

I've been looking at the sed docs but can't tell if it can do it or not.
Ideally, I'd like to do this as simply as possible. If I can do it with
xgrep or sed or some function of DOS, that would be great since they are
already on my system. If I have to install Perl, that would be a big space
hit for little return.

Thanks in advance,
Don

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Works well in the LX. Barely used. $60 USD + shipping prepaid. I also have a
40MB sandisk and 48MB simpletech (make me a deal) contact me privately.

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You can write a program in quick basic or asic. There's probably a program
somewhere that will do this, tho.


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Subject: Breaking Lines


I'm using xgrep in DOS mode to read text from a file. Sometimes the lines
are longer than the screen and end up wrapping funny. For example,

this is the e
nd of it.

Is there some way to search for the maximum line length and then back up
and break the line? Using the example, you'd search for the end of the
line, find "e", back up to the space before it and break the line, like so:

this is the
end of it.

I've been looking at the sed docs but can't tell if it can do it or not.
Ideally, I'd like to do this as simply as possible. If I can do it with
xgrep or sed or some function of DOS, that would be great since they are
already on my system. If I have to install Perl, that would be a big space
hit for little return.

Thanks in advance,
Don

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On Wed, 16 May 2001, Donald Puscher wrote:

> I've been looking at the sed docs but can't tell if it can do it or
> not. Ideally, I'd like to do this as simply as possible. If I can do
> it with xgrep or sed or some function of DOS, that would be great
> since they are already on my system. If I have to install Perl, that
> would be a big space hit for little return.

Sed should be able to to do it, you can try out the script found here:

  http://spazioweb.inwind.it/seders/scripts/fmt.sed

and edit it to suit your needs (it currently wraps at 40 chars).

Alternatively, I would suggest that you grab a DOS version/clone of the
UNIX "fmt" command, which was made specifically for formatting text (and
more powerful than the sed script). You can find it as part of the GNU
text-utilities package here:

http://www.planetmirror.com/pub/simtelnet/gnu/gnuish/dos_only/tut111ax.zip
(400kb)

fmt.exe takes up ~24kb and the documentation another four kb or so. Not so
bad...


bye,

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On Wed, 15 May 2002, Barry wrote:
> I doubt that there is any program in existance where the heavy,
> thorough user can't point out a few bugs.
>
> I wrote a program in C at work that did some fairly complex file
> format conversions on very complex file structures to convert
> incomming data to our own format.  The program worked flawlessly
> every day for 5 years and then one day it failed.  It found that
> one odd combination of things that I hadn't thought to account
> for.  I've always been proud of that one.  :)
>
> Barry

Sure.  But then you fix the bugs and release an updated version.  For
example, all modern computers have a flash bios that can be updated in
the field.

I just wish Hewlett-Backwards would come out with a bug-fixed and enhanced
HP300LX or something...

-Mike

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What is the pointer to Mack Bagette's minix for 200LX?  It loads from DOS,
right, as opposed to booting natively?

Thanks -Mike

On Sat, 12 May 2001, Ed Padin wrote:

> Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 12:15:33 -0400
> From: Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@yahoo.com>

> Actually, it does. You have to get the port that Mack Bagette did. It runs
> well without crashes but cannot access the Dos filesystem. It would be great
> if we could port an eterhnet driver to it as it already has all the
> networking code.

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At 12:17 PM 5/16/2001, Chris Lott wrote:
> > Is there some way to search for the maximum line length and then back up
> > and break the line? Using the example, you'd search for the end of the
> > line, find "e", back up to the space before it and break the line, like so:
>
>have you looked at the fmt utility?  I encountered it from within the
>vi editor, but on many systems it is available from the command line.
>If your system doesn't have it, you should be able to download a copy
>from somewhere.  I have a copy on my palmtop that I use all the time
>both from within vi and from the prompt.

Ah, Chris, that's just what I was looking for! Very nice. I found a copy of
BFMT by Brendan Babb on Simtel. It's about 45kb, so it's not too big.

I've been messing around with xgrep and sed in batch files to create little
"utilities" for myself. I should have them cleaned up in a couple of weeks
and hope to post it to the Web for your palmtopping enjoyment. Stay tuned!

Thanks again,
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Hi Dennis,

>I was told that the acces numbers for PCAOL1.6 were no longer in
service. A
>recent search of AOL found this not to be true. AOL no longer supports
the
>program, but the numbers are still there.

Where did you find those numbers?  I'd like to check what numbers might
be local to my area, as well.

>The only version I found was compressed in MAC format. Does anyone have
the >program in PC format laying around somewhere?

I've got the original AOL16HP.ZIP file.  It's 471,290 bytes.  It seems to
be GEOS based.  I would be happy to send it to you as a file attachment,
if I'm the only one who has it anymore.  Just let me know.

I seem to remember that there were display problems with that software
that kept one from seeing the full screen.

It was my understanding, quite a while back, that AOL's servers that
handled that software were eliminated so I never did actually set it up
and try it.

If you are able to get that software to work on the HP200LX and are
actually able to access your AOL mail with it, please share the details
with the rest of us.  I would be really interested in accessing my AOL
mail with my HP200LX, if it is indeed still possible.

Good luck, Dennis! :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
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Yeah but at a certain point they have to decide it's a finished
product.  I doubt if many people are aware of bugs.  You're
pushing it so you found them.

When HP made the 200lx the standards for software were much
higher than they are now.  I suspect the 200lx is one of the
least buggy PDAs in existance.  But I don't actually know that.

Barry

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>
> Sure.  But then you fix the bugs and release an updated
version.  For
> example, all modern computers have a flash bios that can be
updated in
> the field.
>
> I just wish Hewlett-Backwards would come out with a bug-fixed
and enhanced
> HP300LX or something...
>
> -Mike
>
>
>

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On Mon, 14 May 2001, John Musielewicz wrote:

> I tried running TimeTracker on my desktop but couldn't exit using =
except by
> using the menu which wouldn't come up by pressing the alt key. Does
> timetracker have a hot key sequence to exit or call up the menu?

Alt-M works in Post/LX, so it may work for TimeTracker too.

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Dear Mike,

The Minix version Mack Bagette fixed to run on 200LX was the one which
installs into a virtual partition on a DOS FAT disk. I think he choose
it because it was very simple to install this version on the palmtop.

Installing Minix into a real native i-node unix filesystem on PCMCIA
flashcard is possible, a guy named Richard L.Dubs documented how to do
it. But it is a really complicated process and you need to have a
laptop running Linux to prepare the PCMCIA/CF flashcard initally.

If you want to try it, then install Mack's version first, then collect
and backup the files which Mack modified to stabilize Minix on the LX.
Apply these in the process of native installation.

BTW, Minix can read and write to FAT partitions with DOSREAD, DOSWRITE
and DOSDIR commands.

The Garlic site which used to host Mack's Minix release is currently
under construction.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Donald Puscher wrote:
> Is there some way to search for the maximum line
> length and then back up and break the line? Using
> the example, you'd search for the end of theline,
> find "e", back up to the space before it and break
> the line, like so:

A simple solution is to pipe it through Von Buerg's List
program.  That's downloadble all over the web.  Simtelnet for
example.  It's probably the most commonly used dos shareware
program ever.

A sample command line:
xgrep <xgrep params and switches go here> | list/s

That will put the output into List, which will let you scroll up
and down through it and see all the long lines.

Another way is to use:
xgrep <xgrep params and switches go here>  > output.txt

Then use your editor or notepad to read output.txt

However, list works so smoothly with this that I tihnk it's a
must-have on any dos computer.

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Thanks to everyone who responded. I had a hard time finding fmt because it
usually comes with something else, so the pointers were very helpful.

I found BFMT (45Kb) at Simtel. A little big but has lots of options.
There's also FMT (24Kb) that's part of tut111ax.zip (thanks Laust), and FMT
(1Kb) that's part of Jorgen Dybdahl's prc2txt.zip. For my simple needs,
I'll use Jorgen's version, at least until I find a function I can't live
without.

Laust also mentioned a sed script
(http://spazioweb.inwind.it/seders/scripts/fmt.sed). I'm still pretty new
to sed, so I'll need to think about how this works. This is probably the
way to do it, since it removes a required program. But it also locks me
into a line length and requires me to understand what I'm doing :)

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Hi all;

   An update on my Omnibook travails.  Thanks to help and
advice from Al, Longden, and others on the list I went and
got a CD-ROM and floppy for the Omnibook.  With that I used
Partition Magic to whomp on the hard drive and installed
Boot Manager and OS/2.  The Omnibook 800 dosen't seem very
well supported in OS/2 and I can't get the PCMCIA slots
properly recognized.  And the IR is not supported at all
according to HP's site.  Oh well, if any Omnibookers have
OS/2 up maybe they can tell me what's going on.

   I'll next see if the Omnibook setup disk will clean up
the Win 98 install and get on the network and functioning IR.

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> Laust also mentioned a sed script
> (http://spazioweb.inwind.it/seders/scripts/fmt.sed).

I was intrigued by this, so I downloaded it and played with it
some.  I changed the "40"s to "64", and I added a command
after the "N" command:
    /\n$/n
This way, when it hits an empty line it will print it and skip
to the next one, preserving paragraph breaks.

I made another version to format a la notepad, i.e., where each
new line is preserved, or in other words to simply wrap long
lines.  Just replace these 3 lines:
    $q
    N
    s/ *\n */ /
with:
    n

-George

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Fri, 18 May 2001 15:36:37 -0500 (EST)

Greetings All:

 I received several comments regarding the "disgusting pigs" post last
 week. While most recognized that my actions may have been warranted,
 it also thought that perhaps that permanent loss of posting privileges
 was a little harsh, especially since it was the tone of the post, not
 the topic that was inappropriate.

 I have since been in contact with Joe, and I am convinced this was an
 isolated incident.

 I therefore officially welcome Joe Smith back to the HPLX-L.

 This should not be taken as an indication that I am wavering on my
 policy of proper etiquette on the HPLX-L. Please continue be
 respectful of others on this LIST in both your language and length.

 Thank all for you support of the HPLX-L.

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Dear Al and Folks on the HPLX List:

Al Kind ably wrote:
>  I have since been in contact with Joe, and I am convinced this was an
>  isolated incident.
>
>  I therefore officially welcome Joe Smith back to the HPLX-L.

I thank you for both continuing to email with me, and for
accepting my regret about using the tone I did in "that"
message I posted. I will try to maintain appropriate tone and
expression in the future sufficient that if my mother read the
posts she would be proud of me <g>...

I regret that I let my anger well up to the point that I burst
and exposed everyone here to it, both bystanders, and those
few whose inconsideration caused that anger..

>  This should not be taken as an indication that I am wavering on my
>  policy of proper etiquette on the HPLX-L. Please continue be
>  respectful of others on this LIST in both your language and length.

I accept these completely and willingly.

Thank you for restoring me to the list. This tops of a lovely
time I am enjoying in northern California.

   Joe


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   Russel Brooks wrote:
> 64 columns I think because that is the size of one of the zoom
> windows.

Is there a way to configure Post/LX to automatically wrap at 64 column =
when
posting to the list ?

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Date:         Fri, 18 May 2001 19:11:47 -0700
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Thanks very much.  Do you have pointers to Mack Bagette's work?    Google has
failed me!

Richard L. Dubs' work is incomplete, as you know.  He shows minix booting, but
then it crashes, apparently  See http://users.erols.com/rld/

Thanks again  -Mike


On Thu, 17 May 2001, Feher Tamas wrote:

> The Minix version Mack Bagette fixed to run on 200LX was the one which
> installs into a virtual partition on a DOS FAT disk. I think he choose
> it because it was very simple to install this version on the palmtop.
>
> Installing Minix into a real native i-node unix filesystem on PCMCIA
> flashcard is possible, a guy named Richard L.Dubs documented how to do
> it. But it is a really complicated process and you need to have a
> laptop running Linux to prepare the PCMCIA/CF flashcard initally.
>
> ...
>
> The Garlic site which used to host Mack's Minix release is currently
> under construction.
>
> Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Internet Fastfacts
Radio was in existence 38 years before 50 million people tuned in; TV took
13 years to reach that mark. Once it was opened to the general public, the
Internet crossed that line in 4 years.
There are over 550 billion documents on the Internet. That's roughly 90
documents online for every person on the planet.

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Hello!

I have a brand new AC adapter F1011A for sale on eBay
I'm also selling a gently used 2gb Jaz disk and a gently used
Garmin GPS III. If you're interested in these items and more
just click the link below. Thanks!

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsLinkBUttons&userid=tomsalwasser

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Date:         Sat, 19 May 2001 18:21:44 +0200
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...with new feature:

You can now let PDB2ADR generate a Post/LX distribution list file
containing ALL email address entries of your PDB.

Here is the relevant part of the doc:

  New feature in version 1.3: If you give "ALLCATEGORIES" as
  CATEGORY (all letters UPPERCASE!).
  A distribution list file will be generated containing
  ALL email address entries of your phone book. This is useful
  for example if you want to notify all people you know about an
  event everyone should know (address change, birth of child,
  successful backlight upgrade of the palmtop... ;-) ).
  The value of C is not checked in this case and thus it is
  not relevant.

I've implemented this new feature because I'll need it soon:
I'll probably change my email address soon, because I receive lots of
spam :-(

Download PDB2ADR as usual from
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/pdb2adr/pdb2adr.zip

GTX
daniel

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 John Vander Stel wrote:

>> If you are able to get that software to work on the HP200LX and are =
actually able to access your AOL mail with it, please share the details =
with the rest of us.  I would be really interested in accessing my AOL =
mail with my HP200LX, if it is indeed still possible.<<

Me Too!  Although compuserve is my main isp, I would like the ability to =
have an alternate access through my daughter's AOL account for flexibility=
 reasons.

Larry

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>  This should not be taken as an indication that I am wavering on my
>  policy of proper etiquette on the HPLX-L. Please continue be
>  respectful of others on this LIST in both your language and length.

Firm but also flexible.   Al gets my vote for 2004.

I already have the slogan ... a "Kinder and gentler government" ... or has
that already been taken?

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Any ideas on how to convert slow bit
rate mono RA version 5 to MP3 to listen
to Real Audio in mp3 players?

Bob
--
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> Is there a way to configure Post/LX to automatically wrap at 64 column =
when
> posting to the list ?

You decide the line length with whatever editor you use to type your =
messages.
For example, I use PE most of the time, but I occasionally use the =
built-in
Memo.  I have to set the line length a different way with each of these
editors.  So, let us know which editor you use and we can be more help.

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Date:         Sun, 20 May 2001 11:18:52 +0200
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Hello,

>Thanks very much.  Do you have pointers to Mack
>Bagette's work? Google has failed me!

It was at <http://minix.hplx.net>, which links to a site called
garlic.something.??? , which was under construction two
days ago.

>Richard L. Dubs' work is incomplete, as you know. He shows
>minix booting, but then it crashes, apparently.

Yes and no. They did two completely different things. Mack
patched Minix, so when you run it on 200LX, it works as
advertised (e.g. no crashes). This accomplishment required
his great in-depth knowledge of the 200LX's soul.

Mr. Dubs used a non-modified, stock Minix copy, which of
course crashed (his work preceded Mack's patch availability).
But in fact he was not working with Minix primarily.
He implemented some services (originally missing from
200LX ROM) to provide core Int13h under DOS, which
basically allows the palmtop be partially rebooted in such a
way that next time it will load the OS from a flashcard
instead of the built-in ROM. Then he described how to
prepare PCMCIA flashdisks with a Linux laptop to hold
bootable Un*x.

This is a more generic purpose tool, not just for Minix. It
could be used to boot other Unix variants, like Coherent v2 or
QNXv2 or M$ Xenix on the palmtop or even CP/M-86.
Sorrowfully the Linux-8086 project, called ELKS is unfinished
and now officially dead and the above titles are 10+ year old
OSes; except for QNX, which in turn costs a fortune to buy.

And there is a limiting factor, which makes Mr. Dub's results
largely theoretic. The problem is 200LX cannot handle a
PCMCIA card with 2 or more partitions and no one has a clue
about its exact reason. So you either devote a whole
PCMCIA disk to native non-DOS filesystem or for FAT-16 for
DOS. No way to split natively. It would be inconvenient for
people to keep a separate flashcard just for Un*x.

Exclusively for Minix, there is a good solution. Mr. Kees Bot
made a version of Minix, which sits inside a virtual partition
(which is in fact a big FAT-16/DOS file) and runs from there
happily. This is similar to the VMWare system, you may
have seen on NT and Linux desktops. It also uses some very
low level DOS disk services, widening Minix's hardware
compatibility. And it is still a real non-DOS OS.

This method allows you to share the PCMCIA/CF card
between DOS and Minix, preferred. This was the format, in
which Mack released the patched distribution.

If you absolutely want to have a working native Minix on a
spare flashcard, you could use Dub's method to install
Mack's patched Minix. But prepare to spend some days
struggling to do it, not simple at all. Probably won't worth the
effort, if it is just a fun project.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sun, 20 May 2001, Tamas Feher wrote:

> It was at <http://minix.hplx.net>, which links to a site called
> garlic.something.??? , which was under construction two
> days ago.

garlic.clove.com. This was Bill Childers' web-site. He hosted not only the
Minix files but also copies of long-gone LX-related ftp sites,
eddie.mit.edu for instance. ISTR that Bill's site was hacked, and taken
down, destined to be brought online again "some day". If Bill is still
reading the list, then perhaps he can let us know when/if the archive will
be back up or if there is another way to get a copy of the files. I
personally wouldn't mind a complete copy of the Eddie archive, since
garlic.clove.com is now the official location according eddie.mit.edu
(which no longer hosts the archive but refers to garlic.clove.com!).


bye,

Laust

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Saw this item on eBay. I use it myself - very handy, and this
is a good price. It is a dutch auction, so you can bid up the
price to bubble your bid up, and ensure it is among the
winners, but it may not be the price you pay at the end. That
will be determined by the last successful bid.

Is this a fair description of what a dutch auction is on eBay?
(Sheriff Jeff?)

#1432282124 FlexLite Book Light


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Date:         Sun, 20 May 2001 09:46:55 -0600
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Greetings,

  Someone on the QRP-L reflector pointed out that there is a dutch
auction for flexlights on ebay - item number 1432282124.  The seller has
about 200 and starting bids are $4.99, so unless some snatches up all 200
of them, there are good odds of getting your quantity at $4.99.

take care,
john

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Robert K. Meyer Wrote:
> Any ideas on how to convert slow bit
> rate mono RA version 5 to MP3 to listen
> to Real Audio in mp3 players?

Take a look at Total Recorder at www.highcriteria.com.  It makes
an mp3 of anything playing on your PC.  It's a great program
with a very intelligent set of features and it's easy to use and
it only costs $12 to register it.

It'll also accellerate the playing program by 4 times or more so
you don't have to do this in real time.

I've been using it to put some audiobook tapes on mp3 to play
with my Rio 500 and my Rio Volt.  It's great.  The latest
version will even record directly to mp3 so you don't have to
wait while it converts it.

No, I don't represent them or even know them.  I'm just a
registered user and I think this is the best sound program I've
found so far.  I always brag about things that are both simple
and useful.


Barry

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> Saw this item on eBay. I use it myself - very handy, and this
> is a good price. It is a dutch auction, so you can bid up the
> price to bubble your bid up, and ensure it is among the
> winners, but it may not be the price you pay at the end. That
> will be determined by the last successful bid.

I have one myself from years back.  Buyers should be aware that the light
suffers from really poor battery perfomance.  The AAA batteries on mine ran
down after about an hour or so of use.  It may be useful as an emergency LX
light, but IMHO, not practical for regular use.

The US$4.99 current bid should be tempered by an unknown shipping charge
(not mentioned on the webpage).  Ironically, the seller is in Woodland
Hills, CA ... about 5 minutes from my workplace.

My keychain LED light costs more ($18), but works better for me as an
all-around emergency light (LX and otherwise) and lasts hours longer,
albeit on more expensive lithium button cells.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 20 May 2001 10:41:53 -0700
Reply-To:     Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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From:         Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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              posting.
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Yep.  My lil' repository at clove.garlic.com is no longer - the website
server was hacked and the data got nuked.  (Thanks, Microsoft, for having
such $%&@ security.)

Anyhow, this did happen some time ago, and I've since got my own website,
www.nulldevice.net.  I absolutely forgot all about the old HPLX archive
since I moved to a Palm Vx for my daily activities, but - I do have all
the data on CD-R.  When I get some time I'll put a section up on
nulldevice.net pertaining to the LX.  I'll toss the Eddie stuff and Minix
there as well.

Sorry about this -- All this happened about the same time my daughter was
born, and it kinda got put on the back burner.  I'll keep the list
informed when I make some progress.

-- Bill


On Sun, 20 May 2001, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2001, Tamas Feher wrote:
>
> > It was at <http://minix.hplx.net>, which links to a site called
> > garlic.something.??? , which was under construction two
> > days ago.
>
> garlic.clove.com. This was Bill Childers' web-site. He hosted not only the
> Minix files but also copies of long-gone LX-related ftp sites,
> eddie.mit.edu for instance. ISTR that Bill's site was hacked, and taken
> down, destined to be brought online again "some day". If Bill is still
> reading the list, then perhaps he can let us know when/if the archive will
> be back up or if there is another way to get a copy of the files. I
> personally wouldn't mind a complete copy of the Eddie archive, since
> garlic.clove.com is now the official location according eddie.mit.edu
> (which no longer hosts the archive but refers to garlic.clove.com!).
>
>
> bye,
>
> Laust
>
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Date:         Sun, 20 May 2001 21:32:41 +0100
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I had an inspiration today when I was thinking about my friend Tony
Hutchins living upside down on the other side of the globe (g).

Here it goes :

- I booted my desktop with a bootable MS-DOS 6.2 floppy. So none of the
  fancy Windoze stuff was running.

- I ran cpack from the directory on the harddisk and connected my
  96 meg DS HP200LX with the serial cable. Baud settings on both
  machines was 19.600 bd

- instead of trying to establish the connection by hitting F7 and F6
  on the desktop I did it (upside down) from the palmtop. I had to
  repeatedly try and press F6-connect until finally I got a working
  connection.
  Don't get desperate if it does not work the first time. Later I tried
  with 115KBd but failed To achieve a working connection.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sun, 20 May 2001 15:35:36 -0700
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I found another bug in the 200LX, this time in the Phone Book application.

I had just completed a call with a friend that I talk with every few years
and I wanted to put the date and time into the "notes" part of the record,
along with a few notes.

When I held the "Fn" key and hit the "," key, it should have inserted
today's date: 20-May-01  but it inserted instead: 0-May-0   (!!!).

I then tried "Fn" + "." and got 0:0:0 placed on the -previous- line!

I then opened a new record, and tried inserting the date, and it still got
the same goofy result.

I then switched to the Appointments app, and tried to insert the date - it
worked great!

In frustration, I tried a typical move that we've been trained by Microsoft
to do: close and restart the Phone Book application.

Sure enough, the date and time insert then worked as it is supposed to do.

----

1) Has anybody seen this strange behavior?

2) Has anyone compiled a list of bugs (and work-arounds) in the 200LX?  I
   fully realize that this will be a -huge- list, but we should at least
   have such a list.


Thanks -Mike

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I'm sorry to send this to the HPLX mailing list since it's pretty far
off-topic, but I've become desperate for some leads.  (My Google /
Altavista searches turned up quite a few messages on this mailing list
from a few years ago about the subject.)

I won a Practical Peripherals 14.4k pocket modem off eBay a few months
ago.  To make a long story short, the seller didn't send the serial cable
and isn't interested in doing so.  So, I've got this wonderfully portable
14.4k modem without a way to attach it to anything.

Does anyone know the pin-out of the DIN-9 connector on the modem so I can
make my own cable?  I've searched and searched for the pinout but have
come up empty.  The fact that PPI is out of business doesn't help.  I'd
also be interested to hear about companies that may still have the
original DIN-9 -> DB-9 cable for sale.

Thanks, and sorry again for the off-topic message.

--
Richard Godbee, Jr.
rwg@matrix.webzone.net

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Date:         Mon, 21 May 2001 02:23:45 +0000
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Longden Loo wrote:
> My keychain LED light costs more ($18), but works better for me as an
> all-around emergency light (LX and otherwise) and lasts hours longer,
> albeit on more expensive lithium button cells.

I too have a key chain LED light, a Photon I think.  After
reading about the PAL light on this list I got one and then
later I also got their "Pocket Bright" light.  It's like a fat
Photon except it gets a (claimed) 100 hours of battery life and
won't harm the LED by over driving it like photon does.

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>>Does anyone know the pin-out of the DIN-9 connector on the modem so I can
>>make my own cable?  I've searched and searched for the pinout but have
>>come up empty.  The fact that PPI is out of business doesn't help.  I'd

I looked in my manual and it only showed a standard serial pinout which
leads me to believe the adapter cable is a straight through cable pin 1 to
pin 1 etc

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Longden Loo ably wrote:
> I have one myself from years back.  Buyers should be aware that the light
> suffers from really poor battery perfomance.  The AAA batteries on mine ran
> down after about an hour or so of use.  It may be useful as an emergency LX
> light, but IMHO, not practical for regular use.

I got a bit better time from mine...

> The US$4.99 current bid should be tempered by an unknown shipping charge
> (not mentioned on the webpage).

I thought buyer pays actual shipping charges.

> My keychain LED light costs more ($18), but works better for me as an
> all-around emergency light (LX and otherwise) and lasts hours longer,
> albeit on more expensive lithium button cells.

What do you use?

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On Sunday, 20.05.2001 at 20:32 GMT, HP Staber  wrote:
> I had an inspiration today when I was thinking about my
> friend Tony
> Hutchins living upside down on the other side of the globe
> (g).
>
> Here it goes :
>
> - I booted my desktop with a bootable MS-DOS 6.2 floppy. So
> none of the
>   fancy Windoze stuff was running.
>
> - I ran cpack from the directory on the harddisk and
> connected my
>   96 meg DS HP200LX with the serial cable. Baud settings on
> both
>   machines was 19.600 bd
>
> - instead of trying to establish the connection by hitting F7
> and F6
>   on the desktop I did it (upside down) from the palmtop. I
> had to
>   repeatedly try and press F6-connect until finally I got a
> working
>   connection.
>   Don't get desperate if it does not work the first time.
> Later I tried
>   with 115KBd but failed To achieve a working connection.
>
I'm having no problems with the HP Connectivity Pack on
Windows machines (leaving LLRA aside).

At work, I'm using a ThinkPad 770X running Windows 95.
The CPACK runs in a DOS window without problems. LLRA
can't be installed on that system because the built-in ACP modem
(aka MWAVE) does not get along with LLRA.

At home, I now have a Windows ME desktop PC. I installed
the CPACK (DOS window) and the communication via the serial
port and cable is working with 115200 bps. I haven't tried to install
LLRA because I'm using ZIP for file transfer and backup which
runs just fine with 115200 bps.

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Hello,

Please send me the the M-tech tffs.sys and/or ms-flash.sys drivers and
related files for Intel-style linear flash cards use in 200LX,or some
working link to download. I cannot find an alive site to get it.

Thanks in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Hello all,

Could you please tell me the name and web location of the driver,
which allows using Intel linear-flash PCMCIA cards in the palmtop?

Thanks in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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> > The US$4.99 current bid should be tempered by an unknown shipping
> > charge (not mentioned on the webpage).
>
> I thought buyer pays actual shipping charges.

I must've missed that, sorry.  It's a cute little light ... I have two
including the "original" (I forget the mfgr) with the colored lenses
and the cheaper knock-off (that ironically is better sized to clamp
onto the LX).  My big disappointment was always in how short the
batteries lasted for me.  Maybe it's just because I'm in California
<g>.

> > My keychain LED light costs more ($18), but works better for me as
> > an all-around emergency light (LX and otherwise) and lasts hours
> > longer, albeit on more expensive lithium button cells.
>
> What do you use?

Photon 2.  Tho at home I use the PAL Gold LED light which runs
on on 9v battery for days/weeks.  A really nice bedside flashlight
(tho not cheap either).

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> I too have a key chain LED light, a Photon I think.  After
> reading about the PAL light on this list I got one and then
> later I also got their "Pocket Bright" light.  It's like a fat
> Photon except it gets a (claimed) 100 hours of battery life and
> won't harm the LED by over driving it like photon does.

I looked at several websites but couldn't find the light output of the
Pocket Bright compared to the Photon.  Is it as bright or brighter?
It sounds interesting as a utility light.  How does the persistent
on/off switch work compared to the Photon?

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Two or three months ago I got a copy of ThinkTank from the web at
http://www.outliners.com based on an old tip here. I used it
extensively for the last few months. Good product.

I then read some archives and found this from Charles Bradley,
02 Nov 2000:

<< I believe that Think Tank is the program that starts
prompting the user for the date.>>

I believe the very first "interaction" with it indeed is
prompting for a date.

<< If it is, then beware. It is not y2k compliant. Running the
exe will set your system date all the way back in the bios on
both the LX and the other machines I tried it on. I couldn't
find a work around. The program is unusable unless you enjoy
changing the system date every time you finish with it. >>

This is not correct. It prompts once and never again AFAIK. In
the past 2 months I opened it at least 5 times PER DAY and at
no time did it change my system date.

I highly recommend to go through the customization, including
setting the colors to make it readable.

It is fast, it is powerful, it really rocks. I first met this
program when I lived in Los Angeles in 1987-1990. My employer
gave one of these to each manager as a tool to enhance their
"management style" - but at least it helped get better plans
out there, and meeting agendas and reports were more rational.

I use it now for planning, template letters, idea development
(brainstorming), product information.


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On Sun, 20 May 2001, Longden Loo wrote:

> My big disappointment was always in how short the batteries
> lasted for me.

I wish I had your problem.  I've gone through at least /four/ of
these lights already, and had numerous problems with all of
them.  Terrible switch contact, poor soldering, blown bulbs --
the only thing that hasn't gone wrong yet is a broken wire in
the gooseneck.

The last one I ordered even came with dead batteries, good for
an hour of futile poking, prodding and head-scratching till I
figured it out.

But when it works, it's actually useful -- for reading Web pages
on my LX in a darkened taxi on the way home, and catching the
driver's puzzled expression in the rear-view mirror.  8-)

As with all things, caveat emptor.  A little more caveat with
this baby than other stuff, that's all.

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Dear All

I know there has been some previous discussion on this but I'd like to work
out the best (easiest) was to have my HP200 and my Palm-V coexist.

I've managed to transfer my address book, using ADBdump to a CSV file, then
reading it into the Palm-V. But how can I transfer the Appointments and ToDos.

Once transferred is there a way to do a Syncro' between the two?

Any help appreciated.

Regards

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Mack's Minix installation seems to have disappeared. It used to be on Dave
Sargeant's site www.hplx.net but is gone. I might be able to locate the
original zip file but I'm not sure. Does anyone else have it?



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Subject: Re: Minix on the palmtop.


Thanks very much.  Do you have pointers to Mack Bagette's work?    Google
has
failed me!

Richard L. Dubs' work is incomplete, as you know.  He shows minix booting,
but
then it crashes, apparently  See http://users.erols.com/rld/

Thanks again  -Mike


On Thu, 17 May 2001, Feher Tamas wrote:

> The Minix version Mack Bagette fixed to run on 200LX was the one which
> installs into a virtual partition on a DOS FAT disk. I think he choose
> it because it was very simple to install this version on the palmtop.
>
> Installing Minix into a real native i-node unix filesystem on PCMCIA
> flashcard is possible, a guy named Richard L.Dubs documented how to do
> it. But it is a really complicated process and you need to have a
> laptop running Linux to prepare the PCMCIA/CF flashcard initally.
>
> ...
>
> The Garlic site which used to host Mack's Minix release is currently
> under construction.
>
> Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Hi friends,

On Tue, 22 May 2001 14:13:26 +0800, Adrian Ho <aholx@SINGNET.COM.SG> wrote:

> I wish I had your problem.  I've gone through at least /four/ of
> these lights already, and had numerous problems with all of
> them.  Terrible switch contact, poor soldering, blown bulbs --
> the only thing that hasn't gone wrong yet is a broken wire in
> the gooseneck.
> ...

Just a reminder:
You can make your own serial-port driven LED light for the palmtop. You
only need a few LEDs, a special connector, a little circuit board (but
without any actual "circuit"), a stiff wire, a soldering iron and
reasonable soldering skills. And heat shrink tubing.

You can find the instructions on my home page

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight

GTX
daniel


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> Just a reminder:
> You can make your own serial-port driven LED light for the palmtop. You
> only need a few LEDs, a special connector, a little circuit board (but
> without any actual "circuit"), a stiff wire, a soldering iron and
> reasonable soldering skills. And heat shrink tubing.

Of course, coming from Daniel, this is a bit like Mel Gibson saying anyone
with reasonable social skills can attract women <g>.

- Longden (lacking in both social and soldering skills)

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On Tue, 22 May 2001, Ed Padin wrote:

> Mack's Minix installation seems to have disappeared. It used to be on Dave
> Sargeant's site www.hplx.net but is gone. I might be able to locate the
> original zip file but I'm not sure. Does anyone else have it?

Until Bill get's his site back up, I've made the original
distribution available at

http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/dl/minix.zip
(7mb download, 40+mb uncompressed)


I also have a smaller stripped down version (3mb download, 8mb
uncompressed). I don't recall if this is one I put together, or
got from the web page. This one will run from a 10mb flash card.

http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/dl/minix8.zip


I also created a 20mb version, and a tiny 2mb version for
someone to try on their PC-3000. I don't have them packaged up,
but if anyone is interested, I can make them available as well.
So much has been stripped out of the small one that you can't do
much, other than see it running.


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David Cripps ably wrote:
> But how can I transfer the Appointments and ToDos.

Use a similar strategy: You can smart clip the appointments
and todo items incl. notes. (Unfortunately, one at a time
only.)

Make you own clip which has:

"Description","name","time1","time2" etc. That makes a CSV.

Write a macro that opens ApptBook, use Ctrl-DownArrow to reach
the next appointment, clip it, paste-add it to a file, and
repeat the process.

Similarly, Ctrl-DownArrow in todos finds the next todo item,
which you can then clip, paste-add it to a file, and so on.

Then import the CSV to your PalmPilot.

   Joe


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Longden Loo wrote:
> > later I also got their "Pocket Bright" light.  It's like a fat
> > Photon except it gets a (claimed) 100 hours of battery life and
> > won't harm the LED by over driving it like photon does.
>
> I looked at several websites but couldn't find the light output of the
> Pocket Bright compared to the Photon.  Is it as bright or brighter?
> It sounds interesting as a utility light.  How does the persistent
> on/off switch work compared to the Photon?

The photon is a bit brighter but that is a side effect of over
driving its LED by connecting it directly to the battery.  The
Pocket Bright is plenty bright enough but it has a little
circuit board inside to safely drive the LED and give that long
battery life.  I think the Pocket Bright is better for LX
viewing than the PAL light because the LED output isn't focused
thru a lens; it's similar to the Photon as the LED sticks out
the end of the case.

The switch works ok but I'm a little concerned that pressure
could accidently turn the Pocket Bright on and the battery could
run down.  I wish the light switched itself off after 20-30
minutes.

I have a white Gold PAL and a blue Pocket Bright.

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Joe H. Smith wrote, wrt using Smart Clips in Appt Book,
>>You can smart clip the appointments and todo items incl. notes.
(Unfortunately, one at a time only.)<<
...copy and paste one at a time to a text file.

Just a thought. Wouldn't it be easier to print a range of appointments to a
file using the defined Smart Clip as a custom template?

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> Joe H. Smith wrote, wrt using Smart Clips in Appt Book,
> >>You can smart clip the appointments and todo items incl. notes.
> (Unfortunately, one at a time only.)<<
> ...copy and paste one at a time to a text file.
>
> Just a thought. Wouldn't it be easier to print a range of appointments to a
> file using the defined Smart Clip as a custom template?

I've replied twice to this post, but have forgotten about the reply
goes only to the original poster.

The simplest solution would be to use ADBDUMP, as it was intended,
to generate a CSV file of the APPTs and TODOs from your .ADB file.
(to get this from your addressbook, you would use the GDBIO utility)

-Chris Lott

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I use three products

Intelilink
Schedule+
Intellisync

Intellilink will work with on the Windows PC. I
transfer the phonebooks and appointment book to the
PC.
(I've used Transfile, the pcmcia slot on my llaptop
and currently a USB Card Reader).

Once on the Windows machine I use Intellilink to send
data to MS-Schedule+. (It doesn't have to be
schedule+, merely something that both Intellilink for
the 200lx and Intellisync for the PalmOScan work with.
In fact for palm Memo files I use Lotus Organizer 2.1)

The I use Hotsync to transfer the files to the Palm.

Then I run it the other way and I'm done. Sometimes I
start with the Palm and send it to schedule+ then send
that onwards


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Ed Keefe ably wrote:
> Joe H. Smith wrote, wrt using Smart Clips in Appt Book,
> >>You can smart clip the appointments and todo items incl. notes.
> (Unfortunately, one at a time only.)<<
> ...copy and paste one at a time to a text file.
>
> Just a thought. Wouldn't it be easier to print a range of appointments to a
> file using the defined Smart Clip as a custom template?

Excellent idea! Easy to implemet in a macro.


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I'm using the Kermit protocol to send a file from my laptop to the 200LX
over the serial cable.

I set up the serial port for 38400 baud.  I use Hyperterminal from W98
(P200/96MB laptop) to send the file to the 200LX.

I'm getting about 3,500 BITS per second over this link (435 cps as shown
in Hyperterminal's status bar).

That is, like, 10 times less than 38,400 baud.  I also tried this at
57,600 baud as well as 115,200 baud, and got similar throughputs.  (Yes,
I'm aware that the absolute maximum throughput at, say, 57,600 bits
per second is only 46,080 bits/sec because 8N1 means only 8 of those 10
bits carry useful data.  Still...)

Is this what other people are seeing on a "stock" 200LX?  Is the
performance of the built-in Datacomm app -that- pathetic?

<Sigh>

And, to think, this is the best that exists on Planet Earth at the
beginning of the 21st century!

</Sigh>

Thanks again, -Mike

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Date:         Wed, 23 May 2001 09:55:54 +0200
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Mike Cheponis wrote
> Subject: More problems with 200 LX
>
>
> I'm using the Kermit protocol to send a file from my laptop
> to the 200LX
> over the serial cable.
> Hello Mike,

Using Kermit usually means you are using a 7-bit protocol, often halving
throughput. Plus, it has hardly any streaming. So, throughput using kermit
per se is pretty minimal.

I have used many other possibilities. Transfile for Windows - downloadable
via Super (but at HP), where the
200LX is server, gets some 2K per second or more, plus excellent
manageability on the larger machine.

Mostly I use Xfinder on the LX as the client, and XFS on the Windows 98
machine as a server. Gets me up to 7K bytes per second when both are on
115200.

Other alternatives are Zip, Laplink etc.

But the all-out fastest is LX-Sneakernet: Take PCMCIA flashdisk out of LX,
walk on your sneakers to laptop, plug card in laptop,copy the files from the
Laptop on the PCMCIA flashdisk of the LX, walk back, plug in. Effective
troughput several 100's KB/sec. I do it several times per day.

Michel

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Bel, Michel writes:

> Mostly I use Xfinder on the LX as the client, and XFS on the
> Windows 98 machine as server. Gets me up to 7K bytes per second
> when both are on 115200.

Yet another option is LXFTP using an Acton ethernet card in the
PCMCIA slot.  It's not as fast as your sneakernet solution, but at
60K bytes per second it's not too shabby.  :)

Ted

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> The switch works ok but I'm a little concerned that pressure
> could accidently turn the Pocket Bright on and the battery could
> run down.  I wish the light switched itself off after 20-30
> minutes.

The Photon light has a sliding switch that keeps the light in the ON state.
That switch seems pretty secure in that it doesn't easily engage, since it
requires sliding the switch against some resistance.

I was hoping the Pocket Bright would have something similarly secure.

The other plus for the Photon is that it'll accept CR2032 batteries (or 2
CR2016's) so in a pinch, you can draft your LX backup battery into
flashlight service (assuming you could disassemble and reassemble the light
with its 4 small phillips head screws in the dark <g>).

One never knows when you may be stuck in a cave in France.

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Hello all,

First, many thanks to all, who helped out with linear flash card
drivers.

I have an unrelated problem with a Pentium laptop having Intel PCMCIA
controller and running WinNT4SP6a. I plugged in a Sandisk made OEM
Nikon 8mb CF card in adapter and it is not recognized in any of the
two slots, no matter if alone or besides an Ethernet PC card, which
itself works OK.

I thought NT4 was fully PCMCIA enabled if you do not do hot-swap (that
needs the extra Cardwizard sw). Do you have an idea?

Sincerely: Tamas Feher

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Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM> wrote:
> I'm using the Kermit protocol to send a file from my laptop to the 200LX
> over the serial cable.
>
> I set up the serial port for 38400 baud.  I use Hyperterminal from W98
> (P200/96MB laptop) to send the file to the 200LX.

Did you set it up with hardware (RTS/CTS) flow control too?  Do.
The 200LX has an i8250-equivalent UART, so no FIFO for received data,
so it's easy to overrun without flow control.

Try using YMODEM or ZMODEM instead of Kermit.  The Kermit protocol is
designed for transferring files over dodgy links that are not 8-bit
clean and which attach special meaning to some control characters: it
trades off performance for the sort of robustness needed to deal with
this.  Your cable and your laptop probably do not have these sorts of
misfeatures.

> Is this what other people are seeing on a "stock" 200LX?  Is the
> performance of the built-in Datacomm app -that- pathetic?

Well, yes.  A doublespeed upgrade helps, but you still can't get
reliable 115200 bps downloads without hardware flow control.  I
usually stick to 38400 bps on a doublespeed 200LX.

And if your laptop has a free PCMCIA slot, you can probably plug in a
200LX-formatted flash card and see the files.  Don't discount that as
a file transfer path.

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Longden Loo wrote:
> > The switch works ok but I'm a little concerned that pressure
> > could accidently turn the Pocket Bright on and the battery could
>
> The Photon light has a sliding switch that keeps the light in the ON state.

To be fair the pocket bright does need need more than lite
pressure to turn it on.  The weight of keys or change in your
pocket wouldn't be enough.  Its On/Off switch is electronic, not
mechanical.  Press to turn on, press again to turn off.
Some people have trouble with the Photon's slide switch.

> The other plus for the Photon is that it'll accept CR2032 batteries (or 2
> CR2016's) so in a pinch, you can draft your LX backup battery into
> flashlight service (assuming you could disassemble and reassemble the light
> with its 4 small phillips head screws in the dark <g>).

The Pocket Bright uses 2 stacked CR2025s and opens easily with a
coin.  Changing batteries in the dark is definately possible and
the 100 hour battery life means you probably won't need to near
as often as the photon.

I like the Pocket Bright even though it's a couple dollars more
expensive than Photon.

Cheers... Russ

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On Sun, 13 May 2001 21:56:07 -0700, Steve Staloff <rodin@ARACNET.COM> wrote:

It is one thing to be angry at people who over-quote. It is
quite another to use the type of language that Joe did to
express this anger. I fully support Al's decision.

Vic Roberts


On Sun, 13 May 2001 21:56:07 -0700, Steve Staloff <rodin@ARACNET.COM> wrote:
>
> Al:
>
> You were wrong.  We need honorable, capable people like Joe.  So many have been driven out.

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On Wed, 23 May 2001, Frank McConnell wrote:

> Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM> wrote:
> > I'm using the Kermit protocol to send a file from my laptop to the 200LX
> > over the serial cable.
> >
> > I set up the serial port for 38400 baud.  I use Hyperterminal from W98
> > (P200/96MB laptop) to send the file to the 200LX.
>
> Did you set it up with hardware (RTS/CTS) flow control too?  Do.
> The 200LX has an i8250-equivalent UART, so no FIFO for received data,
> so it's easy to overrun without flow control.

Yes, I had h/w flow control and 8-bit kermit mode enabled.  Modern kermit is
really not as bad as the original kermit, methinks.

>
> Try using YMODEM or ZMODEM instead of Kermit.  The Kermit protocol is
> designed for transferring files over dodgy links that are not 8-bit
> clean and which attach special meaning to some control characters: it
> trades off performance for the sort of robustness needed to deal with
> this.  Your cable and your laptop probably do not have these sorts of
> misfeatures.

Yes, I agree that kermit deals with many goofy links, that's why I stick
with it; but when I tried ZMODEM, it actually got -fewer- b/s througput.  And
it was interesting watching the 200LX's byte count during transfer: there would be
a burst of maybe 4 or 5 "blips" of data, then it would pause for maybe 250 ms then
it would burst again.  But the smoothed performance was less than Kermit (!).

> > Is this what other people are seeing on a "stock" 200LX?  Is the
> > performance of the built-in Datacomm app -that- pathetic?
>
> Well, yes.  A doublespeed upgrade helps, but you still can't get
> reliable 115200 bps downloads without hardware flow control.  I
> usually stick to 38400 bps on a doublespeed 200LX.

Geez, that pegs me at 19,200 b/s on a standard speed 200LX.

>
> And if your laptop has a free PCMCIA slot, you can probably plug in a
> 200LX-formatted flash card and see the files.  Don't discount that as
> a file transfer path.

You know, I plugged in my 16 MB Butterfly Group Flash card into W98SE, and it
seemed to be taking it OK, but then it never showed up as another disk (like F: or
something).  I also had problems with windows when using SRAM cards.  Is there some
magic sauce needed get Windows to read these cards correctly?


> -Frank McConnell

Thanks again, Frank.

By the way, several years ago, I wrote a program to demonstrate high-performance
IR transfers between two 200LX boxes (well, they were 100LX, since the 200LX hadn't
come out yet).  It automatically sniffed for other machines in the vicinity,
and displayed the names of the machine it sniffed, as well as passing data between
them, all at 115,200 baud.  I admit that it takes a wee bit of cleverness to get
the 200LX to pump our or accept data at 115,200, but if little old -me- can figure
it out, why can Big Smart Deep Pockets HP figure it out?  That's what bothers me.

Thanks all  -Mike

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Thanks!

I downloaded the minix8.zip file to my 16 MB FLASH card with about 10 MB free,
unzipped it, and just boot minix.mnx (after adjusting the DOS memory to be 400K).
(1.5 hours to upload the .zip file via kermit, but that's a different story.)


It's quite a nice smaller distribution, and I thank you -kindly- for it.

I need to pick up a bigger FLASH disk to try out the full 40 MB distro (incidentally,
the "normal" minix 2.02 distro needs 30 MB of disk, mininum, for a full install; I'm
curious what the extra 10 MB is for?).

Again, thanks.  It's wonderful to have open-source s/w running on the 200 LX.  And
the built-in "life" game is quite enchanting!  ;-)

Best regards -Mike

On Tue, 22 May 2001, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:56:11 -0700
> From: Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
> Subject: Re: Minix on the palmtop.
>

> Until Bill get's his site back up, I've made the original
> distribution available at
>
> http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/dl/minix.zip
> (7mb download, 40+mb uncompressed)


> I also have a smaller stripped down version (3mb download, 8mb
> ...
> http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/dl/minix8.zip
>
> ...
>
> Cheers,
> Mike Kopplin

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On Wed, 23 May 2001, Mike Cheponis wrote:

> Yes, I agree that kermit deals with many goofy links, that's why I
> stick with it; but when I tried ZMODEM, it actually got -fewer- b/s
> througput.  And it was interesting watching the 200LX's byte count
> during transfer: there would be a burst of maybe 4 or 5 "blips" of
> data, then it would pause for maybe 250 ms then it would burst again.
> But the smoothed performance was less than Kermit (!).

In Kermit's defense, it has to be said that if the full Kermit protocol is
implemented by both the transmitter and reciever, then performance will be
a lot better (though still not comparable to ZMODEM in my experience).
Often it's not, however, Hyperterminal's implementation is known to be
inefficient. The Kermit FAQ gives an example in which using Kermit-95 was
~10 times faster than using Hyperterminal :-)

> > > Is this what other people are seeing on a "stock" 200LX?  Is the
> > > performance of the built-in Datacomm app -that- pathetic?
> >
> > Well, yes.  A doublespeed upgrade helps, but you still can't get
> > reliable 115200 bps downloads without hardware flow control.  I
> > usually stick to 38400 bps on a doublespeed 200LX.
>
> Geez, that pegs me at 19,200 b/s on a standard speed 200LX.

I transfer files reliably to and from my single-speed LX at 38400kbps
using ZMODEM (from Datacomm), and that's over IR. Going to 57600
produces numerous errors and retransmissions. This is to and from the
internal C-drive. Doing it to and from a flash/SRAM card might affect
performance.

If using Hyperterminal/other program with a Windows GUI is not a must,
then you might want to check out "ZIP" (not the compressor). It runs
nicely at 115kbps, although I have never measured the effective transfer
rate. It does seem like it's much faster than ZMODEM however, and a lot
more convenient too. You can grab it at SUPER.


bye,

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Hi list members,

does anyone know what minimum files are required to run cpack200 from =
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thanks for the info,

regards, from Germany
Michael Berrier

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Mike wrote:

>You know, I plugged in my 16 MB Butterfly Group Flash card into W98SE, and
it
>seemed to be taking it OK, but then it never showed up as another disk
(like F: >or
>something).  I also had problems with windows when using SRAM cards.  Is
there >some
>magic sauce needed get Windows to read these cards correctly?

Mike, use the following in config.sys:
  device=c:\windows\system\csmapper.sys
  device=c:\windows\system\carddrv.exe

This make Sram and some weird flash cards visible.

Michel

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Michael Berrier asks about minimum files for CPack from floppy.
I pulled my setup from a post on Usenet a few years ago.  Here is a
link to the full article, with batch files and code:

  http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/cpackfpy.htm

These are the files needed:

CG.COM
TKERNEL.EXE
UN200.EXE
CFILER.EXE
FILER.ENV
SETUP.ENV
CPACK100.FNT
CFILUS.HLP *
FRESUS.RI  *
JQBTAUS.RI *

  * US version only

Hope that helps.

Ted

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> I'm looking for a dictionnary which is variable in use, will say =
extendable. I have a *.txt or *.doc file I w
> ould like to use.
> Thanks for any productive input
>
> best regards, Michael Berrier from Germany

There is an english spellchecker that comes with PalEdit.

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On Wed, 23 May 2001, Mike Cheponis wrote:

> > > Is this what other people are seeing on a "stock" 200LX?  Is the
> > > performance of the built-in Datacomm app -that- pathetic?
> >
> > Well, yes.  A doublespeed upgrade helps, but you still can't get
> > reliable 115200 bps downloads without hardware flow control.  I
> > usually stick to 38400 bps on a doublespeed 200LX.
>
> Geez, that pegs me at 19,200 b/s on a standard speed 200LX.

I wrote to the list in December 2000 some results of a
speed test using the Filer in the 200LX to transfer to the
Filer in the CPack.  See http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
for the HPLX archives for the details, but transfer rates
did improve somewhat on my 200LX single speed using higher
baud rates.

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Has anyone looked at the Nyko "Worm Light" for the gameboy. It looks like
it might be fum to convert if I can get a connector for the serial port.

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Mike Cheponis <mac@WIRELESS.COM> wrote:

> By the way, several years ago, I wrote a program to demonstrate
high-performance
> IR transfers between two 200LX boxes (well, they were 100LX, since the
200LX hadn't
> come out yet).  It automatically sniffed for other machines in the
vicinity,
> and displayed the names of the machine it sniffed, as well as passing
data between
> them, all at 115,200 baud.  I admit that it takes a wee bit of cleverness
to get
>
I would love to see this program you wrote. It would be fun to play with,
and it could lead to some interesting applications. Would you care to share
it with us?

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Mike Cheponis wrote:
> That is, like, 10 times less than 38,400 baud.
>  I also tried this at 57,600 baud as well as
> 115,200 baud, and got similar throughputs.
> (Yes, I'm aware that the absolute maximum
> throughput at, say, 57,600 bits per second is
> only 46,080 bits/sec because 8N1 means only
> 8 of those 10 bits carry useful data.  Still...)
> <Sigh>
> And, to think, this is the best that exists on
> Planet Earth at the beginning of the 21st century!

The connection can only pass data as fast as the sender can
actually send it and the receiver can actually receive it.  The
bottleneck is probably the 200lx.  If it's not already double
speed, making it double speed would probably increase it.
Unless the uart is slow for some reason.

It also might be that the Kermit built into the 200lx is slow.
A lot of early kermits were very slow.

On the HP48, receiving with kermit, it gets a packet and instead
of appending it to the data it already has, it first copies that
data into a larger buffer and then appends.  It does this every
time so as more data is received it gets very very slow.  It
takes about 10 times longer when you double the length of the
object being sent.

I doubt that anything like that is going on in the 200lx (there
can't be 2 programmers that dumb) but it shows how dramatically
the efficiency of the software can effect the speed.

And what does this have to do with the 21st century?  You're
using 20th century technlogy.  And, in computer terms, early
20th century technology.  Want more speed?  Use a firewire.

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On Thu, 24 May 2001, Barry wrote:

> On the HP48, receiving with kermit, it gets a packet and instead
> of appending it to the data it already has, it first copies that
> data into a larger buffer and then appends.  It does this every
> time so as more data is received it gets very very slow.  It
> takes about 10 times longer when you double the length of the
> object being sent.
>
> I doubt that anything like that is going on in the 200lx (there
> can't be 2 programmers that dumb) but it shows how dramatically
> the efficiency of the software can effect the speed.

This scheme sounds, ahh, suboptimal.


> And what does this have to do with the 21st century?  You're
> using 20th century technlogy.  And, in computer terms, early
> 20th century technology.  Want more speed?  Use a firewire.

Is there a firewire interface available for the 200LX?

Thanks -Mike

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> Is there a firewire interface available for the 200LX?

Not that I'm aware of.

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> I downloaded the minix8.zip file to my 16 MB FLASH card with about 10 MB free,
> unzipped it, and just boot minix.mnx (after adjusting the DOS memory to be 400K).

You're running this from a shell? You might have problems
running some things as I think memory is pretty tight even
running from a plain DOS prompt.


> It's quite a nice smaller distribution, and I thank you -kindly- for it.

You're welcome, although the real thanks goes to Mack.


> I need to pick up a bigger FLASH disk to try out the full 40 MB distro (incidentally,
> the "normal" minix 2.02 distro needs 30 MB of disk, mininum, for a full install; I'm
> curious what the extra 10 MB is for?).

It's free space. Actually, in the 40mb distribution, it's a
little over half files (programs, libraries, source, etc.) and
the other half is free space. Remember this is an entire "file
system" contained in a DOS file. The free space has to be built
in as well as the programs. So the question is, what was removed
to go from 30 in the normal, down to 20MB? I don't know. I don't
have a normal to compare to.

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> It's free space. Actually, in the 40mb distribution, it's a
> little over half files (programs, libraries, source, etc.) and
> the other half is free space. Remember this is an entire "file
> system" contained in a DOS file. The free space has to be built
> in as well as the programs. So the question is, what was removed
> to go from 30 in the normal, down to 20MB? I don't know. I don't
> have a normal to compare to.

Any way to make a 32MB distribution?  I happen to have a 32MB
flash card laying around, and would live to experiment with this.
And I would think many people would be more apt to have access to
32M cards than 40MN ones...  Just my $0.02 worth.

-Chris Lott



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> > It's free space. Actually, in the 40mb distribution, it's a
> > little over half files (programs, libraries, source, etc.) and
> > the other half is free space. Remember this is an entire "file
> > system" contained in a DOS file. The free space has to be built
>
> Any way to make a 32MB distribution?  I happen to have a 32MB
> flash card laying around, and would live to experiment with this.
> And I would think many people would be more apt to have access to
> 32M cards than 40MN ones...  Just my $0.02 worth.

Yes, that's not too hard. The difficulty is when you go a lot
smaller, and have to decide what files not to include. For 32MB,
it will just be less free space. It might be a day or two before
I get to it.

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Hi Joe,

On Thu, 24 May 2001 06:56:25 -0700, Joe Buford <Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM> wrote:

> Has anyone looked at the Nyko "Worm Light" for the gameboy. It looks like
> it might be fum to convert if I can get a connector for the serial port.

If I recall correctly, this gameboy light was said to be too much
focused (even for the small gameboy screen) to be useful for the
palmtop.

GTX
daniel

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Hi

On Thu, 24 May 2001 09:46:06 +0200, Michael Berrier <m_berrier@GMX.DE> wrote:

> I'm looking for a dictionnary which is variable in use, will say extendable. I have a *.txt or *.doc file I would like to use.

> best regards, Michael Berrier from Germany

I'm also looking for one (especially German - English expandable).
I have one German-English (Dicty) made by FreeSoftware. This is pretty good,
much words etc., but unfortunately not expandable (at least not by
default. Maybe we could explore the file format and write a program
which can add words to the dictionary files). The files are binary /
text mixed, so they even may be compressed. Has anyone by chance looked
into that file format?

GTX
daniel

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Alex, Chris, other interested people,

I've added two more size distributions of the Minix package (32
and 20MB) to my server. They can all be accessed now from

http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/minix.html

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On Thu, 24 May 2001, Joe Buford wrote:

> Has anyone looked at the Nyko "Worm Light" for the gameboy.
> It looks like it might be fum to convert if I can get a
> connector for the serial port.

Illumination sucks, even for the GB's smaller screen.  I bought
one, and that very night wondered why I'd bothered.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > Hi > > On Thu, 24 May 2001 09:46:06 +0200,
Michael Berrier <m_berrier@GMX.DE> wrote:

> > I'm looking for a dictionnary which is variable in use, will say
> > extendable. I have a *.txt or *.doc file I would like to use.
>
> > best regards, Michael Berrier from Germany
>
> I'm also looking for one (especially German - English expandable).
> I have one German-English (Dicty) made by FreeSoftware. This is pretty =
good,
> much words etc., but unfortunately not expandable (at least not by
> default. Maybe we could explore the file format and write a program
> which can add words to the dictionary files). The files are binary /
> text mixed, so they even may be compressed. Has anyone by chance looked
> into that file format?

The dictionaries used in PalEdit are expandable. I think that Andrew =
Hilkowitz
<andrewhilkowitz@csi.com> has a german dict for PalEdit.

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> I downloaded the minix8.zip file to my
> 16 MB FLASH card with about 10 MB free,
> unzipped it, and just boot minix.mnx (after
> adjusting the DOS memory to be 400K).

Does this minx have a c compiler and an assembler?  If so, I
think I'd like to try it, too.  I have a 40 meg card I could
use.

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On Fri, 25 May 2001, Barry wrote:

> Does this minx have a c compiler and an assembler?  If so, I
> think I'd like to try it, too.  I have a 40 meg card I could
> use.

Yes, it includes both (the assembler is called as). I haven't
tried the assembler at all, but I've used cc to recompile the
kernel.

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This is a good thing. I thought that Mack's port of Minix was going to usher
in a new revolution. Here we have a true multitasking (well, mostly true)
OS. The only drawbacks are a lack of applications, DOS interoperability and
networking. I figured that since it came with a full development
environment, these things could be overcome. Unfortunately, it sat around
forgotten for a long time.



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Alex, Chris, other interested people,

I've added two more size distributions of the Minix package (32
and 20MB) to my server. They can all be accessed now from

http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/minix.html

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Hi Michael,

On Thu, 24 May 2001 09:40:58 +0200, Michael Berrier <m_berrier@GMX.DE> wrote:

> does anyone know what minimum files are required to run cpack200 from 3,5 " disc on a desktop PC ?

There is a file somewhere on SUPER which either contains these files or
at least contains a description how to put cpack200 on a floppy.

Search on SUPER for "cpack floppy" or similar and you will find it.

GTX
daniel

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Is anyone out there using DataPerfect on their HP 200LX ?
Does it work ?
I'm having trouble getting it to show more than one database in the list at
the opening screen.

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Date:         Fri, 25 May 2001 19:11:28 -0500
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The opening screen shows all the databases in the current directory - you
can have more than one database in a directory and all will be listed in the
startup screen.  If you don't see more than one database it is probably
because you haven't created more than one in the default directory.

Are you on the dataperfect mailing list?  You can get help there from much
more knowlegeable folks than me.

Go to the web page:

http://www.dataperfect.mailinglist.nu

nd follow the link to mailinglist to subscribe.

Good luck!

Mike
> Is anyone out there using DataPerfect on their HP 200LX ?
> Does it work ?
> I'm having trouble getting it to show more than one database in the list at the
> opening screen.
>
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Date:         Fri, 25 May 2001 17:24:57 -0700
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Hi Mike,

I want to express my appreciation for your doing so.  Thank you.

Best Regards,
Alfred

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Date: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:07 PM
Subject: More Minix downloads was: Minix on the palmtop.


>Alex, Chris, other interested people,
>
>I've added two more size distributions of the Minix package (32
>and 20MB) to my server. They can all be accessed now from
>
>http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/minix.html
>
>Cheers,
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The opening screen shows all the databases in the current directory - you
can have more than one database in a directory and all will be listed in the
startup screen.  If you don't see more than one database it is probably
because you haven't created more than one in the default directory.

Are you on the dataperfect mailing list?  You can get help there from much
more knowlegeable folks than me.

I made several test databases in the same directory but only the first,
alphabetically, shows up on the start screen. if I delete the first
database, then the next one shows on the start screen.
 I did join the DataPerfect mailing list and have posted there too. Thought
the problem might be specific to the HPLX.

thanks

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Date:         Sat, 26 May 2001 02:56:01 -0000
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Hello can some of you tell me please, what need for compile a c source
in minix?

i does it
1. I wrote a hello world program with vi editor
some like this:

#include <stdio.h>

void main(void)
{
  printf("Hello, World!\n");
}

2. compile it in this way:

cc hello.c -o hello
or i try this to
cc hello.c

after that I get the file hello and a.out file

3. I try to run any of this and only  get this error message:

hello: not found
and
a.out: not found

what must I do for run it?
and how can I compile and run a Pascal source?

any help is apreciate, thanks.
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Date:         Fri, 25 May 2001 23:22:40 -0400
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try ./a.out - the current directory is not in your PATH (the places your
shell will look for executables). The above command tells your shell to look
in the current directory for a file named a.out and execute it.

HTH,

Ken

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From: "Rafael Humberto Padilla Velazquez" <dysup@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:56 PM
Subject: c & pascal compiler in Minix?


> Hello can some of you tell me please, what need for compile a c source
> in minix?
>
> i does it
> 1. I wrote a hello world program with vi editor
> some like this:
>
> #include <stdio.h>
>
> void main(void)
> {
>   printf("Hello, World!\n");
> }
>
> 2. compile it in this way:
>
> cc hello.c -o hello
> or i try this to
> cc hello.c
>
> after that I get the file hello and a.out file
>
> 3. I try to run any of this and only  get this error message:
>
> hello: not found
> and
> a.out: not found
>
> what must I do for run it?
> and how can I compile and run a Pascal source?
>
> any help is apreciate, thanks.
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Date:         Sat, 26 May 2001 10:14:46 -0500
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> The files are binary/text mixed, so they even may
> be compressed. Has anyone by chance looked
> into that file format?

I've looked at the formats of a few dictionaries.  This was some
time back and I was just curious so it's not something I spent
much time with.

One of them was very simple.  It had 26 offsets at the beginning
to the words beginning with each letter.  Preceding each word
was the length of that word, or the offset to the next word, or
both.  I can't quite remember now and I don't remember if the
words were null terminated.

The other one was more complex and I didn't actually figure out
it's pointer structure.  Instead I got more interested in the
way each word was organized.  If a word had variations, the base
word was followed by some binary character and that was followed
by a list of possible endings, each preceded by a binary
character.  Maybe the length or maybe a terminator.  I don't
recall now.   So a word like "simple" would have an entry like
"simpxle.ify.er.ton."  where . represents some binary character
but maybe not always the same binary character.

Most dictionaries are simple alphabetical lists of words.  With
some sort of index built on the fly as the program loaded, this
could be pretty fast for lookup.

I found a site on the web not long ago that has a lot of
dictionaries (I think just English but maybe not) to download.
All were either public domain or freeware.  Some were several
hundred thousand words.  The ones I looked at were plain text.

I didn't save a link to that but I just did a search and came up
with some links:

http://crl.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/Tools/CLR/clrcat
http://www.dict.org/links.html

Barry

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Date:         Sat, 26 May 2001 10:21:25 -0500
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Can I install the 40 meg Minix in a 40 meg flash card?  or does
it need 40.xxx meg, in which case I should use the 30 meg
version.

Barry

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Date:         Sat, 26 May 2001 08:38:23 -0700
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> Can I install the 40 meg Minix in a 40 meg flash card?  or does
> it need 40.xxx meg, in which case I should use the 30 meg
> version.

The 40MB version has a 41,943,040 byte file for the minix file
system, which is exactly 40MB. In addition there is the loader,
boot.com, which is about 20k. I don't have a "40MB" card, so I
don't know how much they actually hold. If the 40mb version
doesn't fit on a 40mb card, I could shrink it just a bit.

http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/minix.html lists the uncompressed
file sizes of the different packages.

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Date:         Sat, 26 May 2001 13:13:02 -0400
Reply-To:     Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
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I think 40 meg cards are rated at 40,000,000 bytes, with some loss due to
formatting/etc. THey are not 40x1024x1024 bytes.

Ken
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Subject: Re: Minix 40 meg


> > Can I install the 40 meg Minix in a 40 meg flash card?  or does
> > it need 40.xxx meg, in which case I should use the 30 meg
> > version.
>
> The 40MB version has a 41,943,040 byte file for the minix file
> system, which is exactly 40MB. In addition there is the loader,
> boot.com, which is about 20k. I don't have a "40MB" card, so I
> don't know how much they actually hold. If the 40mb version
> doesn't fit on a 40mb card, I could shrink it just a bit.
>
> http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/minix.html lists the uncompressed
> file sizes of the different packages.
>
> Regards,
> Mike Kopplin
>
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Date:         Sat, 26 May 2001 12:29:17 -0500
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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> try ./a.out - the current directory is not in your PATH (the places your
> shell will look for executables). The above command tells your shell to look
> in the current directory for a file named a.out and execute it.

A common way to handle the a.out convention is to give the executable
a different name on the command line, something like

gcc -o hello hello.c

This works under most unix-flavors I've used, but I can't comment
a bout Minix, since I haven't yet tried it out.  I did dig up my old
30 (not 32, drats) MB Ace Flashdisk, and will try to get it running
this weekend.

-Chris

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> I think 40 meg cards are rated at 40,000,000 bytes, with some loss due to
> formatting/etc. THey are not 40x1024x1024 bytes.
>
> > http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/minix.html lists the uncompressed
> > file sizes of the different packages.

Ok, there are a couple more sizes available now, one that should
fit on a 40mb card, and one for a 30mb card.

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Date:         Sat, 26 May 2001 20:18:28 +0200
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Hi Rafael,

On Sat, 26 May 2001 02:56:01 -0000, Rafael Humberto Padilla Velazquez <dysup@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> after that I get the file hello and a.out file
>
> 3. I try to run any of this and only  get this error message:
>
> hello: not found
> and
> a.out: not found

Try calling the program by typing

./hello

or

./a.out

In Un*x, often the current directory is not in the default search path
for executables.
If you want to change this, you have to add the "current" directory to
the path.

GTX
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> I tried finding it on Simtel, but the new Simtel design/layout didn't
> strike me as very useful...

Does anyone know what is happening here?  I, too, have tried simtel
lately.  This new layout is really poor.  Several searches have failed,
yet I know the file it there.  Usually I have to access it my ftp, and
then search by filename, if known.

Is there some way to access simtel by the old frontend?  If not, for
old files I'll have to rely on an old simtel CD-ROM that a buddy gave
me years back.  Can one still purchase a set of Simtel CD-ROM?

-Chris Lott





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Date:         Sun, 27 May 2001 05:50:01 +0200
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/576899.asp

"At least hundreds, if not thousands of Webloggers and other Netizens spent
the past year rooting for 19-year-old Kaycee Nicole, who was battling
leukemia and chronicling her incredible efforts online. They sent hats when
her hair fell out. They sent Amazon gift certificates so she had reading
material. They even sent money when mom lost her job to be at Kaycee's
bedside. There was a worldwide groan May 14 when Kaycee's passing was
announced, followed by an online wake. Only one problem: There was no Kaycee
Nicole."

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Date:         Sun, 27 May 2001 04:26:37 -0000
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thanks a lot guys!
I have another question, I know that in minix
exist a Pascal compiler call pc some of you has use it?
I try this simple program:

Program Hello(input, output);

begin
writeln('Hello, World!');
end.

and compile it but I get this error message:

"bad magic number"

or some like this.
thanks again.
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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
> http://www.msnbc.com/news/576899.asp
...
> Only one problem: There was no Kaycee Nicole."

And your (HPLX) point is ???

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 27 May 2001 12:45:49 +0200
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Hello all,

Thanks for the drivers you sent me. I tried three different PCMCIA
sizedlinear flashcards.

The first one, a 4MB Intel Flash Series2 worked OK with M-Sys
driver. The second, a 4MB Intel Flash Series1 formatted very slowly
and produced huge power drain, I think it's practically unusable.

Third, an AMD AmC010CFLKA card (C-series 5Volt-only 10MB)
did not work at all, M-Sys driver didn't even recognize it. The M$
driver saw it as 65MB(!) card, but refused to partition or format it,
etc. I will ask AMD what kind of driver does it need.

I wonder if there is much point in using LinearFlash cards today,
apart from their physical write-protect tab, which may prove handy
for securing backups.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Subject:      FLUFF: Confluence project
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hi all, who are interested in useless but fascinating things,

this is probably fluff, but it could also be seen in connection to
the HP, because you need a GPS receiver, a camera (preferably a
digital one) and Internet connection. To write down your travel
impressions and remember your data a database would be nice - here we
are.

look at the confluence project at
http://www.confluence.org

The goal of the project is to visit each of the latitude and
longitude integer degree intersections in the world, and to take
pictures at each location. The pictures and stories will then be
posted there.

I visited two of the confluences and i had much fun...

regards from Werner
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Barry Marks wrote:
> The 40MB version has a 41,943,040 byte file for the minix file
> system, which is exactly 40MB. In addition there is the
loader,
> boot.com, which is about 20k. I don't have a "40MB" card, so I
> don't know how much they actually hold. If the 40mb version
> doesn't fit on a 40mb card, I could shrink it just a bit.

I realized after I hit send that since I get the digest I'd have
already figured it out myself before I got the answer.  Sorry
about that.

But I did answer my own question.  My 40 meg Sandisk card has
39,xxx,xxx bytes and the Minix file is 41,xxx,xxx bytes so it
wouldn't fit.  But before I tried the 30 meg version I tried
MKFILE 39m MINIX.MNX, which syntax I got from just typing mkfile
to get help.  And it did reduce the file and it worked just
fine.

But it's so slow on the 200lx that it's not worth having.  It
also locks up a lot.  And some of the man stuff is unreliable.

I tried running it in a dos window in Win98 and it all worked
fine there.  So it's something on the 200lx that's causing
problems.  But it's so slow to it'll be frustrating to play
with.  Too bad.  It might have been fun.

I have an old dos laptop with a 486 that won't run on batteries
anymore.  I might install it there and play with it.  I think it
has a 200 meg hd and 4 meg ram.  It should be a good machine for
it.

Barry

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Chris Lott wrote:
> Does anyone know what is happening here?  I, too, have tried
simtel
> lately.  This new layout is really poor.  Several searches
have failed,
> yet I know the file it there.  Usually I have to access it my
ftp, and
> then search by filename, if known.
>
> Is there some way to access simtel by the old frontend?  If
not, for
> old files I'll have to rely on an old simtel CD-ROM that a
buddy gave
> me years back.  Can one still purchase a set of Simtel CD-ROM?

I was kind of dismayed by the new appearance, too.  Some things
in the universe are just supposed to be stable and Simtel was
one of them.  But I guess we have to live with it.

I've gone there looking for things several times and it's all
still there and their new system for browsing still contains the
old directory names.  But they've made it weird so you have to
pretend some of it doesn't happen in order to avoid confusion.

The search feature still works fine.  You can use partial names
and refine the search.  I haven't actually had any trouble
finding stuff.

The real problem is every time I click something it makes me
wince and I finally just have to get out of there because it's
too painful.

People used to have more time to get used to things before they
had to talk about the good old days.  Nowadays the good old days
was yesterday and the day before yesterday was the day before
the good old days.

Barry

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Date:         Sun, 27 May 2001 07:27:59 -0700
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> But I did answer my own question.  My 40 meg Sandisk card has
> 39,xxx,xxx bytes and the Minix file is 41,xxx,xxx bytes so it
> wouldn't fit.  But before I tried the 30 meg version I tried
> MKFILE 39m MINIX.MNX, which syntax I got from just typing mkfile
> to get help.  And it did reduce the file and it worked just
> fine.

MKFILE is only the first step. All this does is change the size
of the DOS file. In Minix you still have to correct the
partition information for the new size, then recreate the file
system, and finally, copy all the original files to the new
partition. The man file for dosminix describes the procedure in
more detail.


> But it's so slow on the 200lx that it's not worth having.  It
> also locks up a lot.  And some of the man stuff is unreliable.

It is a bit slow on a single speed, not bad on a DS. I've only
had it lock up a couple times, and even then it was still
running. Just my shell was useless. Your problems may have been
related to the file system being corrupt. You also want to give
it as much memory as possible.

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Date:         Mon, 28 May 2001 01:34:01 +0200
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Le Sun, 27 May 2001 13:26:33 +0200
"Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET> a =E9crit:

> hi all, who are interested in useless but fascinating things,
>=20
> this is probably fluff, but it could also be seen in connection to
> the HP, because you need a GPS receiver, a camera (preferably a
> digital one) and Internet connection. To write down your travel
> impressions and remember your data a database would be nice - here we
> are.
>=20
> look at the confluence project at
> http://www.confluence.org

Just visited the site a few days ago :-)

And seiing a name on one site, I think to remember that an eminent
member of the palmtop comunity (easy clue: born in Luxemburg, living in
Germany) ) talked about it some years ago...

Don't know if he upload the pictures directly from the intesection point,
with his palmtop (HP700lx currently ?)


Jacques.

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Date:         Mon, 28 May 2001 06:02:48 +0200
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 >There is a file somewhere on SUPER which either contains these files
 >or at least contains a description how to put cpack200 on a floppy.

it is called  cpackfpy.zip

it contains 3 files: a text for instructions, a batch file and comeback.com

whenever i read about comeback.com and it is giving me a headache:

 - {paste} -
Below is the code for COMEBACK and the batch file that must be written to
the floppy. Before using the binary file of COMEBACK it must be reassembled.
The C code to generate COMEBACK has been included. I used Borland C++ 3.0 on
a 486 to generate it. I also used PKLITE on it as well.

The COMEBACK program is in binary below. This code is neccessary since when
exiting the FILER it assumes that the More Applications brought it to FILER
and the FILER assumes that More Applications takes care of the path it was
called from. COMEBACK program emulates this. If you don't include it the
computer will get messed up on the way out of the FILER on the PC.

The below batch file is nearly identical to the batch file on the used in
the connectivity pack. This file also needs to be written to the disk.
 - {end} -

how the #$% do i "reassemble" comeback to make a floppy work cpack200 on
the pc?

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bonjour again :)

Using filer's backup feature i want to back up newer files in a directory
with subdirectories replacing older files from C: to A: but it just won't do
it! I have highlighted to include "All directories and files", "Modified
files only", and "Overwrite existing files". Next i press enter and the
hourglass appears for 1/10th of a second - but nothing has been backed up.
What am i doing wrong? When i copy the whole directory using F2 the
hourglass stays for 6 seconds telling me that the job is done correctly. Why
can't i back up selectively the way filer advertises?

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Mike Kopplin wrote:
> It is a bit slow on a single speed, not bad on a DS. I've only
> had it lock up a couple times, and even then it was still
> running. Just my shell was useless. Your problems may have
> been related to the file system being corrupt. You also want
to
> give it as much memory as possible.

Thanks for mentioning the additional steps.  I didn't know about
them and that probably was the source of my problem.  Guess if
I'm going to pursue it I need to so some more reading.

But, since I only have a single speed LX I'm not sure I'll go on
with it there.

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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
> Using filer's backup feature i want to back up newer files in a directory
> with subdirectories replacing older files from C: to A: but it just won't do

I don't use filer.  Go to DOS and run this...

D:\DOS\Xcopy  c:\*.*  a:\backup\  /s/m

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Nathalie Bugeaud writes:

> Using filer's backup feature i want to back up newer files in a directory
> with subdirectories replacing older files from C: to A: but it just won't do
> it! I have highlighted to include "All directories and files", "Modified
> files only", and "Overwrite existing files". Next i press enter and the
> hourglass appears for 1/10th of a second - but nothing has been backed up.
> What am i doing wrong? When i copy the whole directory using F2 the
> hourglass stays for 6 seconds telling me that the job is done correctly. Why
> can't i back up selectively the way filer advertises?

Is it possible that none of the files have been modified?  You can check
the directories in question with the attrib command.

Ted

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Has anyone been able to successfully get PDU on the 200lx to work via cable
with the Nokia 6220?

PDU looks very straight forward to use so I don't believe the problem is
here.  I created a sms.txt file then tried to send it to the phone by
typing "pdu /s" but got an error code #4.  Not sure if I have to touch the
baud rate.  Don't know even how to do that.

My cable connection looks like a mess.  I guess the problem is somewhere
here.  I've tried 3 scenarios:

1. HP cable<->5181-6639<->Nokia cable
2. HP cable<->5181-6642<->5181-6641<->Nokia cable
3. HP cable<->5181-6640<->5181-6641<->Nokia cable

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?  BTW, I know the Nokia cable works.  I am
able to use it on my win95 machine.

regards,

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Date:         Tue, 29 May 2001 08:33:39 +0200
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Hi Oliver,

On Tue, 29 May 2001 07:23:10 +0800, Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET> wrote:

> Has anyone been able to successfully get PDU on the 200lx to work via cable
> with the Nokia 6220?

You are talking about the 6210, right?

> My cable connection looks like a mess.  I guess the problem is somewhere
> here.  I've tried 3 scenarios:
>
> 1. HP cable<->5181-6639<->Nokia cable
> 2. HP cable<->5181-6642<->5181-6641<->Nokia cable
> 3. HP cable<->5181-6640<->5181-6641<->Nokia cable

What is this?       

Don't know about the needed baud rate at the Nokia phone, but at least
the following cable combination should work:

HP cable <-> HP NUll modem adapter <-> Nokia cable

It is important not to use a cheap null modem adapter, because these
usually don't have all necessary pins connected. The HP one works in
every case (this one which comes with the connectivity pack).

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 29 May 2001 13:55:24 +0000
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Oliver Chua wrote:

> PDU looks very straight forward to use so I don't believe the problem =
is
> here.  I created a sms.txt file then tried to send it to the phone by
> typing "pdu /s" but got an error code #4.  Not sure if I have to touch =
the
> baud rate.  Don't know even how to do that.

Are you running PDU in plain DOS with SysMgr closed? Otherwise
the serial port won't work. I implemented the /S switch only
for the Siemens S25. It's more like an undocumented feature.

You have to find out, which baud rate the Nokia needs, then set
this baud rate with the MODE command of DOS and use the /B
switch of PDU to bypass baud setting by PDU.

I cannot comment on the cables. Probably the List can help.

But I recommend to use PDU only as a converter and POST/LX
as communications program.

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Date:         Tue, 29 May 2001 07:53:13 -0500
Reply-To:     Randall <Firefox@SOUTHWIND.NET>
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 For those that might be interested, the problem I was having getting
DataPerfect to show all the databases in a directory was traced down to the
autoexec.bat file.
 Actually the real problem was that the standard autoexec.bat file that
comes with the HP 200LX, or at least with mine, had a line in it that said
"ASSIGN E:=A:". Somehow this was keeping DataPerfect from seeing more than
one database.
I deleted that line and all is well now.

Much thanks for all the replies for help that I received.

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Date:         Tue, 29 May 2001 08:30:26 -0600
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Simtel was bought out. Their new layout is bad, agreed. There are, however,
still some mirror sites that maintain more of the old flavor. My favorite is
http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/.

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> I tried finding it on Simtel, but the new Simtel design/layout didn't
> strike me as very useful...

Does anyone know what is happening here?  I, too, have tried simtel
lately.  This new layout is really poor.  Several searches have failed,
yet I know the file it there.  Usually I have to access it my ftp, and
then search by filename, if known.

Is there some way to access simtel by the old frontend?  If not, for
old files I'll have to rely on an old simtel CD-ROM that a buddy gave
me years back.  Can one still purchase a set of Simtel CD-ROM?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 29 May 2001 16:32:37 +0200
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I'm looking for an easy way to convert values with degrees,
preferrably with the HP 200 LX calculator. Specifically, I have
values as degrees, minutes and seconds and need to convert
the minutes and seconds into a decimal fraction of a degree.

Just like: 48 degrees and 30 minutes to 48.5 minutes

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> I'm looking for an easy way to convert values with degrees,
> preferrably with the HP 200 LX calculator. Specifically, I have
> values as degrees, minutes and seconds and need to convert
> the minutes and seconds into a decimal fraction of a degree.
>
> Just like: 48 degrees and 30 minutes to 48.5 minutes

Under Applications/Math check out the HR function key, or in
solver, the HR() function. Converts DD.MMSSss format to decimal
degrees.

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>>Just like: 48 degrees and 30 minutes to 48.5 minutes

I thought the solver had a function for this

yes maybe these help

HMS(x)
Concerts decimal hours to HMS

HR(x)
Converts HMS to decimal hours

unfourtantly the format of (x) doesnt seem to be included in the help screec

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Ulrich,

> I'm looking for an easy way to convert values with degrees,

Use HMS(x) and HR(x) in Solver. HMS(x) converts X in decimal
degree to d.mmss so 48 degrees and 30 seconds is 48.5 and
hms(48.5) will yield 48.30.

HR(x) converts x in d.mmss to a decimal format. so hr(48.3000)
will yield 48.5.

It is then simple to write a solver function like this:

Dec_deg =3D hr(hhmmss_deg)

(I think <g>... I did not test this...) Good luck. BTW, just
checked and my 200LX manual chapter 19 pg 16 has the
description of the functions.

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Date:         Tue, 29 May 2001 19:23:48 +0200
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Hello all,

I came across this website, which sells PCMCIA products. But it also
has lots of precious technical info and many FAQs, so it looks like a
place to bookmark.

<www.synchrotech.com>

Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Tue, 29 May 2001 19:38:00 +0200
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    Hello all,

I noticed a strange problem with Transfile Win200 v1.03 on NT4SP6a.

Using a home-made cable, which has only 3 wires (RX, TX, GND) I tried
to transfer the 20MB Minix image to a 24MB Sandisk CF. This
minix20.mnx file is 19922944 bytes and when the copy process reaches
108544 bytes, I always get an error message: not connected.
But I can move any amount of other, smaller files back and forth with
no absolutely no problems!

I wonder if the bug has its reason in the 200LX or the TF103+desktopPC
side? Obviously the file itself cannot be a problem, no matter if
Minix or DOS, it has characters from the 255 entries of ASCII table.

Have you ever noticed anything similar when laplinking large files?
OK, serial wire is not practical for huge transfers, but my access to
a laptop is intermittent. I don't have a real, all 9-wire, brand HP
cable; but I wonder if TransFile is always using the 3 minimum wires
only, no matter what cable you have. It could explain why it is so
slow, like 2kb/sec, regardless of 56 or 38,4 kbps setting.
(All this is sad, as X-finder server or Connectivity Pack or just
about any laplink won't run on Windows NT)

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> Using a home-made cable, which has only 3 wires (RX, TX, GND) I tried
> to transfer the 20MB Minix image to a 24MB Sandisk CF. This
> minix20.mnx file is 19922944 bytes and when the copy process reaches
> 108544 bytes, I always get an error message: not connected.
> But I can move any amount of other, smaller files back and forth with
> no absolutely no problems!
>
> I wonder if the bug has its reason in the 200LX or the TF103+desktopPC
> side? Obviously the file itself cannot be a problem, no matter if
> Minix or DOS, it has characters from the 255 entries of ASCII table.

Actually, it could be the file. Transfile seems to have a bug
when transferring certain byte sequences. I had this happen
several times, even on small files. You might have to use one of
the other transfer programs.

Regards,
Mike Kopplin

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thanks to Nathalie, Michael
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From: Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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> >There is a file somewhere on SUPER which either contains these files
>  >or at least contains a description how to put cpack200 on a floppy.
>
> it is called  cpackfpy.zip
>
> it contains 3 files: a text for instructions, a batch file and
comeback.com
>
> whenever i read about comeback.com and it is giving me a headache:
>
>  - {paste} -
> Below is the code for COMEBACK and the batch file that must be written to
> the floppy. Before using the binary file of COMEBACK it must be
reassembled.
> The C code to generate COMEBACK has been included. I used Borland C++ 3.0
on
> a 486 to generate it. I also used PKLITE on it as well.
>
> The COMEBACK program is in binary below. This code is neccessary since
when
> exiting the FILER it assumes that the More Applications brought it to
FILER
> and the FILER assumes that More Applications takes care of the path it was
> called from. COMEBACK program emulates this. If you don't include it the
> computer will get messed up on the way out of the FILER on the PC.
>
> The below batch file is nearly identical to the batch file on the used in
> the connectivity pack. This file also needs to be written to the disk.
>  - {end} -
>
> how the #$% do i "reassemble" comeback to make a floppy work cpack200 on
> the pc?
>
> Nathalie MD
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Hi list,

got a project to tranfer a MS Excel file to gdb file I would like to use =
on the LX. I was trying gdbload but was not able to getit done. Some =
error messages like can't read the header, can't read the database and =
so on.

Any info how to do the command correctly ? What are the excel data =
ending txt for DOS ?=20

thank you for assistance

Michael B.=20

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Today I bought a Click drive for my notebook (arlt.com in
Germany sells them currently for ~$70 including one 40MB disk).

I had a look why it won't fit into the Palmtop. It is not the
height, but the dimension of the "belly" which prevents it from
passing the PCMCIA door. But even if you would make the door
fit, it won't fit into the sledge and finally not into the
funnel which houses the pins. That means, it cannot be tested
without breaking a Palmtop. I checked all that on my reference
100LX, which is always dismanteld.

That means, even if it would work (with external power source
indeed) on the palmtop, it would be useless, because only few
could alter the inner plastic to make it fit.

On the laptop it works perfect, at about half the speed of the
fixed disk. And price per MB is comparable to quality floppys,

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Date:         Tue, 29 May 2001 22:11:44 +0200
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Hello all,

What is the largest capacity Ni-Cd AA size battery available? I
have seen 1000mA here. I would prefer Ni-Cd over Ni-Mh or Li-ion
because of the built-in charging support of LX.

Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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>>I noticed a strange problem with Transfile Win200 v1.03 on NT4SP6a.

i thought this was a known problem? zip the file in question and transfer
it. the file must have a combonation of bytes that chokes transfile

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On Tue, 29 May 2001, Tamas Feher wrote:

> I would prefer Ni-Cd over Ni-Mh or Li-ion because of the
> built-in charging support of LX.

Really?  I charge NiMH AAs in my LX all the time.

The one thing you gotta watch is the input voltage of the DC
adapter.  I used a cheapo AC-DC job with a potentiometer for
voltage selection, and noticed (but wasn't too concerned) that
the LX got rather warm.

One day it occured to me to check the input voltage with a
multimeter -- ~16V!  I used the multimeter to dial the adapter
back down to 12V and now it runs much cooler.

Unfortunately, I didn't catch on to the problem before my screen
started forming bubbles and a dark green tinge across most of
its surface.  Fortunately, it still works.

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Hi,

It has been some time since I used gdbload.

You have to convert your Excel spreadsheet to a csv format : File -> Save
As and choose csv

For date fields, they should appear in the format YYYYMMDD

Next, you have to use your LX's Database to create the template with the
headings, then copy it over to your PC.

The command line is gdbload template.gdb input.csv
I create a batch file and edit the file names as necessary for the command
line.

Having said that, my personal preference for converting csv file to LX
Database is to use GDBIO, also downloadable from the SUPER site at
http://www.palmtop.net/super.html

gdbio's command line and requirements are somewhat different, as in the
sample batch file below:-
@echo off
REM No headers in cdf file
REM date format in cdf file must be mm/dd/yy
gdbio template.gdb input.cdf output.gdb

The header line in the csv file must be removed, and the csv extension must
be renamed to a cdf extension, eg input.csv renamed as input.cdf before it
can be used by gdbio.

Hope this helps.


At 07:53 PM 5/29/01 +0200, MBerrier wrote:
>Hi list,
>
>got a project to tranfer a MS Excel file to gdb file I would like to use
>on the LX. I was trying gdbload but was not able to getit done. Some error
>messages like can't read the header, can't read the database and so on.
>
>Any info how to do the command correctly ? What are the excel data ending
>txt for DOS ?
>
>thank you for assistance
>
>Michael B.

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On Tue, 29 May 2001 19:53:34 +0200 MBerrier wrote:
>got a project to tranfer a MS Excel file to gdb file I would like to use on the LX. I was trying gdbload but was not able to getit done. Some error messages like can't read the header, can't read the database and so on.
>
>Any info how to do the command correctly ? What are the excel data ending txt for DOS ?

You first need to save the Excel file as a Comma-Separated Values
(CSV) file. You then need to add a first line to that text file that
looks like the LX's fields. The right way to do this is to create an
LX database and use GDBDUMP. The output of GDBDUMP looks like what
GDBLOAD expects. Take the first line of GDBDUMP's output and copy it
to your CSV file's first line.

The next difference is that Excel doesn't normally put quotes around
the fields, unless there is a comma or a line break in that field, but
GDBLOAD wants quotes around every one. I wrote a small program to do
this, which you can download from
http://dominoes.airweb.net/download/CSVQUOTE.EXE . This is a DOS
filter, so use it like this:

csvquote < myfile.csv > newfile.csv

The next difference is that Excel writes line breaks within a field as
real line breaks, so a record can span multiple lines. GDBLOAD wants
each record to occupy exactly one line, so if there are any line
breaks in the text file, replace each break with "\r\n".

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Date:         Wed, 30 May 2001 07:28:01 +0100
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HI EVERYBODY,
HOPEFULLY SOMEONE HAS A SOLUTION FOR ME.
LOOKING FOR A CONNECTOR BETWEEN MY HP200LX 32MEG
WITH THE 56K FAX/MODEM THADDEUS OFFERS FOR IT, AND
MY MOTOROLA  V50 AND V3690 (EUROPEAN GSM)!!!!
MY PROVIDER IS PT-TELECEL.
IF THAT DOES NOT EXIST, THEN I LIKE TO KNOW A WAY TO BE ABLE E-MAILING =
OUTDOORS ON MY HP. SO IF ANYONE
HAS A HINT, LET ME KNOW.
THANKS AND A GOOD DAY OR NIGTH FOR EVERYONE
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Date:         Wed, 30 May 2001 02:57:40 -0400
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> I noticed a strange problem with Transfile Win200 v1.03 on NT4SP6a.
>
> Using a home-made cable, which has only 3 wires (RX, TX, GND) I tried
> to transfer the 20MB Minix image to a 24MB Sandisk CF. This
> minix20.mnx file is 19922944 bytes and when the copy process reaches
> 108544 bytes, I always get an error message: not connected.

Maybe transfile is blocking on some character code? Try to
create one file with 256 bytes, with all the possible
characters and transfer it.

> (All this is sad, as X-finder server or Connectivity Pack or just
> about any laplink won't run on Windows NT)

I use the X-finder server on Windows NT 4, and I had absolutely
no problems setting it up. It worked out-of-the-box first time.


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I have experienced this too. Just a specific file at a certin point of
the transfer.
In order to transfer it i had to zip the file to get it to the hp200lx.

> I noticed a strange problem with Transfile Win200 v1.03 on NT4SP6a.

...

> minix20.mnx file is 19922944 bytes and when the copy process reaches
> 108544 bytes, I always get an error message: not connected.
> But I can move any amount of other, smaller files back and forth with
> no absolutely no problems!

...

> Have you ever noticed anything similar when laplinking large files?

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Blah...Just Blah.. wrote:

> Have you tried it with a doubleslot adapter?

don't have one.

> if it looks like a standard ata harddrive...

Win95 detects it as standard IDE/ESDI harddrive. No drivers
needed. I cannot recommend to install the IOMEGA drivers from
CD which came with the Clik drive. They put 5 programs in your
Autostart just for nothing, besides filling xx MB with stuff
never needed....

It's always the same tragedy: Extremely good product is getting
bad if you use the (mostly not needed) SETUP from CD.

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Date:         Wed, 30 May 2001 07:25:40 -0500
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> > (All this is sad, as X-finder server or Connectivity Pack or just
> > about any laplink won't run on Windows NT)
>
> I use the X-finder server on Windows NT 4, and I had absolutely
> no problems setting it up. It worked out-of-the-box first time.

Although I no longer use NT at work (changed jobs), I used CPACK on
my Windows NT machine for several years with reasonable success.  I
do admit that it would sometimes go for weeks without working, then
it would all of a sudden begin working again.  But most of the time
it did work just fine.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 30 May 2001 15:22:38 +0200
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hi Tamas,

on 29 May 2001, at 22:11 Tamas Feher wrote about:
What is the max. capacity Ni-Cd AA cell today?

> Hello all,
>
> What is the largest capacity Ni-Cd AA size battery available? I have
> seen 1000mA here. I would prefer Ni-Cd over Ni-Mh or Li-ion because
> of the built-in charging support of LX.
>

I use the Sanyo Twicell 1600mAh and I am satisfied with its
performance. I charge them with ABC-LX inside the LX. It allows
longer charging times for high capacity cells and the charging
cycle is voltage and/or time terminated.

I have seen pictures from even higher capacity cells, but only on
the Internet, not in the shop...

The charging of the cells inside the LX is not ideal in more than
one point, but there is no principal difference if you charge
Nicads or NiMH's. Some members of the list reported of damage to
the charging / voltage regulator chip in the HP200. (due to
overheating ?) I use a regulated PS with really 12 V DC and up to
now no problems.
I could take out the batteries and charge them in a dedicated
charger for NiMH cells, would be better for the LX and for the
battieries, but I am lazy and opening the battery case of the LX is
cumbersome. Sometimes I take them out though, my prefered external
charger is a Lytron ECS charger, a very sophisticated device for
always full batteries and a long life of the cells. There are 2
versions, one for 12V DC (mobile use in the car) and one for 220V
AC. The mobile one could of course be connected to a 12V PS at
home.

best regards,
Werner





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on 29 May 2001, at 22:10 Larry Tachna wrote about:
Re: Strange issue with Transfile and 20meg Minix.

> >>I noticed a strange problem with Transfile Win200 v1.03 on
> >>NT4SP6a.
>
> i thought this was a known problem? zip the file in question and
> transfer it. the file must have a combonation of bytes that chokes
> transfile

thats right. The problem could also happen with zipped files, but
then maybe transfering the unzipped file would help. Or using a
different compression method.

Werner


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Date:         Wed, 30 May 2001 16:21:36 +0200
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More or less by accident I found a web page with a lot
of information on NiCd and NiMH batteries. The URL is:

http://xedox.de/akkus.htm

The text is partly in English and partly in German, so there
is something for almost everyone on this list :-)
I hope I'm not flooded with mail saying:
"Uh, oh, this is old stuff!"

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Date:         Wed, 30 May 2001 14:51:01 +0000
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siegfried witzgall wrote:
> HI EVERYBODY,
> HOPEFULLY SOMEONE HAS A SOLUTION FOR ME.
...

Tour CAPS locked key is stuck ON (or you're shouting at us).

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> Using a home-made cable, which has only
> 3 wires (RX, TX, GND) I tried to transfer
> the 20MB Minix image to a 24MB Sandisk
> CF. This minix20.mnx file is 19922944 bytes
> and when the copy process reaches108544
> bytes, I always get an error message: not
> connected.  But I can move any amount of
> other, smaller files back and forth with
> no absolutely no problems!

Sounds like it's running out of buffer.  You might try
compressing the file and sending it.  You also might try using
software flow control since you don't have the lines for
hardware flow control.  I'm not sure that works with binary
files.  I used to know :).

Anyway if it doesn't work with binary files you can always
uuencode it and send it.  That only makes it twice as large but
software flow control should work.  :)

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> What is the largest capacity Ni-Cd AA size
> battery available? I have seen 1000mA here.
> I would prefer Ni-Cd over Ni-Mh or Li-ion
> because of the built-in charging support of LX.

At http://www.thomasdistributing.com/ they have 1800 MAh NiMH
batteries but they're pretty expensive.  I've been using the
Nexcell 1600 MAh batteries with good results for a while, now.
They're only $2.30 each.

I don't think the 200lx charger will charge these to full
capacity so I'm not sure if you'll gain anything.  Maybe there's
a program that makes it do it.  I never charge batteries in the
200lx so I haven't really looked into that.  I charge mine
externally in a charger made for NiMH.

I've bought a number of things from Thomas Distributing and
found them reliable.  I've never had a problem with anything I
bought so I can't tell how well they handle problems.

I've looked in stores and the best I can find is 1200 MAh and
they cost a lot more than the more powerful ones on the web.

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Hello All:
I have an 8 MB 200LX which I would like to use at pay phones with an
acoustic coupler to keep in touch with my Email. I also have a 56K PCMCIA
fax modem for connections to RJ11 connectors.
I would appreciate your comments on using (buying) the acoustic coupler and
any personal experiences, both pro or con, you may have had doing this.
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              Weiss" at May 30, 2001 11:31:35 AM

> I have an 8 MB 200LX which I would like to use at pay phones with an
> acoustic coupler to keep in touch with my Email. I also have a 56K PCMCIA
> fax modem for connections to RJ11 connectors.
> I would appreciate your comments on using (buying) the acoustic coupler and
> any personal experiences, both pro or con, you may have had doing this.
> Thanks for the feedback.

I have one which I bought years ago for that very reason.  Doesn't get
too much use, but it does still work.

Mine is a Port SureLine Acoustic Coupler 100, but I think there are
others avaialabe.

-Chris Lott

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>>thats right. The problem could also happen with zipped files, but

but the odds are if the unzipped file fails the zipped one will go ok

between that and the way it dates the transfered files i stopped using it

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Can someone recommend a scientific calculator that will run on the
200LX?  The built in app is OK, but is geared more towards business.
Something with the ability to program complex formulas would be a plus,
but not a necessity.

Thanks,

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When in the calculator app, type CTRL+M   That may be what you want.
If not, then use 1-2-3.  There is also the Solver.

Good luck -Mike

On Wed, 30 May 2001, Marc - wrote:

> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:12:11 -0700
> From: Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Scientific Calculator
>
> Can someone recommend a scientific calculator that will run on the
> 200LX?  The built in app is OK, but is geared more towards business.
> Something with the ability to program complex formulas would be a plus,
> but not a necessity.
>
> Thanks,
>
> zaaap@earthlink.net
>
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> What is the largest capacity Ni-Cd AA size battery available? I
> have seen 1000mA here. I would prefer Ni-Cd over Ni-Mh or Li-ion
> because of the built-in charging support of LX.

I would like someone knowledgeable to chime in but I suspect that once
you deviate very much from the Ni-cad values that were available when
the hp was first introduced, that, the hp is no better for charging
newer higher capacity nicads than higher capacity nmh's????????

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Just got done reading the rather lengthy thread entitled "GPS coordinates
with the 200LX"  From September of last year.  Found the link to
http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html -- VERY nifty!  Coulda used this
on my trip to Dayton from SoCal a couple weeks back.

I guess this question is for Mike Kopplin if he's out there.  Is there a way
for your very nifty CGI to provide the Lat/Long for the top-left and
bottom-right pixels of the images generated?  This would make it very easy
to calibrate the maps for use with LX GPS (another nifty program).  I could
probably muck around with figuring out the lat/long depth per pixel at the
various zoom levels myself, but maybe you've already figured this out ...

Given these values it'd actually be not too difficult to create a set of
"blanket" maps at various zoom levels for zip codes, routes between
waypoints, etc. making trip maps easier to assemble for LXGPS.

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Date:         Wed, 30 May 2001 20:53:47 -0700
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Just got my upgraded doublespeed 200LX back from Thaddeus.  Boy what a
diference!

I've set it up with an ethernet card and NetBEUI using Rod's utilities and
configuration scripts (see http://lxmnc.hplx.net/) and this also works quite
well (once you figure out that you need to add a "net share c_drive=c:\
/full" to the net-up.bat).

However, I've encountered two strange things:

1.  After mapping \\hp200lx\c_drive to "O:" in windows explorer on my
desktop, I can roam the C drive on my LX, treating it just like any other
network share, but occasionally it hangs Windows Explorer.  The hang is
fixed when I press the ENTER key on the LX (which is merely sitting at a dos
prompt, certainly not doing anything special);

2.  If I fire up a COMMAND prompt on my desktop I can't do a DIR on O: -- it
always returns the message "the system cannot find the file specified."
This occurs even if I change to O: first.  If I CD to _DAT, or any other
subdirectory it works fine.  Only O:\ seems to display this error message.

Ok what am I doing wrong, or what have I done wrong?

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Date:         Thu, 31 May 2001 06:04:00 +0200
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 >I don't use filer.  Go to DOS and run this...
 >D:\DOS\Xcopy  c:\*.*  a:\backup\  /s/m

thanks Russ, but how do i copy a directory which includes 4 other
sub-directories only instead of all of C:\ ?

do i D:\DOS\Xcopy  c:\mydir\*.*  a:\backup\  /s/m

will this replace older files in the 4 sub-directories too?

 >Is it possible that none of the files have been modified?
 >You can check the directories in question with the attrib command.

thanks Ted, but in average 10 files have been modified and saved with new
date and time attributes, but filer won't copy and over-write older files on
A:\.

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Hello Fellow lxpalmateers,

Just want to let you folks know that I just received my new cf
256 mb card, and with the adapter it works just wonderfully in
my hp200lx!  now with the the 32mb dbl speed, and this new cf I am
really off and running to fill it up with wonderful software! I just
couldn't contain my excitement!!!!  ***stars in eyes****

specs: 256 MB SanDisk Compact Flash TypeII - $192.00
I got it off E-bay, new with registration card et al.
Delkin Device CF typeII to ATA Adapter - $29.95
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hi Martin,

on 30 May 2001, at 20:14 Martin Crundall wrote about:
LX GPS / MapBlast / Kopplin's CGI:

> I guess this question is for Mike Kopplin if he's out there.  Is there a way
> for your very nifty CGI to provide the Lat/Long for the top-left and
> bottom-right pixels of the images generated?  This would make it very easy
> to calibrate the maps for use with LX GPS (another nifty program).  I could
> probably muck around with figuring out the lat/long depth per pixel at the
> various zoom levels myself, but maybe you've already figured this out ...
>
> Given these values it'd actually be not too difficult to create a set of
> "blanket" maps at various zoom levels for zip codes, routes between
> waypoints, etc. making trip maps easier to assemble for LXGPS.

I tried this with my APRS program, but the maps you get from mapblast have
not the right projection for this, and the larger the map the larger the
mistake.
I think the same will be true for LX-GPS.

If you have different findings, please let me know!

73!
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Date:         Thu, 31 May 2001 07:46:52 -0500
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Marc at zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET asked about scientific calculators for the LX.

Beyond what can be done with HP Calc/ Solver and 1-2-3, there are many other
math programs, including calculators, for the LX.

To read all about them see
http://www.palmtopPaper.com/PTPHTML/48/48c0000e.htm
and search www.palmtop.net for 'calculator'  Some people like Ultimate
Calculator. I liked BigCalc for its extended precision.

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Date:         Thu, 31 May 2001 15:11:29 +0200
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Hi Siegfried

On Wed, 30 May 2001 07:28:01 +0100, siegfried witzgall <Ziggysan@ONINET.PT> wrote:

> HOPEFULLY SOMEONE HAS A SOLUTION FOR ME.
> LOOKING FOR A CONNECTOR BETWEEN MY HP200LX 32MEG
> WITH THE 56K FAX/MODEM THADDEUS OFFERS FOR IT, AND
> MY MOTOROLA  V50 AND V3690 (EUROPEAN GSM)!!!!
> MY PROVIDER IS PT-TELECEL.
> IF THAT DOES NOT EXIST, THEN I LIKE TO KNOW A WAY TO BE ABLE E-MAILING OUTDOORS ON MY HP. SO IF ANYONE
> HAS A HINT, LET ME KNOW.

Sorry, I have no idea about the phones you mention.
But a good starting point for your considerations may be my home page,
especially the page

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx

Good luck!

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Date:         Thu, 31 May 2001 09:37:27 -0400
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   Marvin Weiss wrote:
> I have an 8 MB 200LX which I would like to use at pay phones
> with an
> acoustic coupler to keep in touch with my Email.
I bougth a TeleCoupler II years ago. It works but at maximum
9600bps. I very rarely used it. Nowadays I prefer GSM
connection via IR. It is less bulky and more reliable. As
e-mail run are very short, price difference is not huge.

 \/ /ves

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   Marc - wrote:
> Can someone recommend a scientific calculator that will
> run on the
> 200LX?

Have a look at Derive (commercial Product by Soft Warehouse)
or UCALC (Ultimate Calculator by Daniel Corbier). I don't
actually use those very often but they look pretty powerfull
and I keep them around just in case.

Rgds,

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Werner,

> I tried this with my APRS program, but the maps you get from mapblast =
have
> not the right projection for this, and the larger the map the larger =
the
> mistake.
> I think the same will be true for LX-GPS.

Are you running APRS on your 200lx?  If so, I'd be interested in your
setup?

Thanks,

Marcus
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has anyone had any experience with converting from psion 5mx to 200LX
If so please provide as much info as poss & also why you did it

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> I guess this question is for Mike Kopplin if he's out there.  Is there a way
> for your very nifty CGI to provide the Lat/Long for the top-left and
> bottom-right pixels of the images generated?  This would make it very easy
> to calibrate the maps for use with LX GPS (another nifty program).  I could
> probably muck around with figuring out the lat/long depth per pixel at the
> various zoom levels myself, but maybe you've already figured this out ...

This is something I'm working on. I was going to announce it as
a new feature to celebrate the 10,000th map retrieved from my
server. Well, map 10,000 came and went a little sooner than I
thought, and I'm still working on the math.

As Werner mentioned, the projection used by Mapblast will
introduce some error, but maybe not so bad at the lower scale
settings. I will have more information once I get things
working.

Regards,
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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
>  >D:\DOS\Xcopy  c:\*.*  a:\backup\  /s/m
>
> thanks Russ, but how do i copy a directory which includes 4 other
> sub-directories only instead of all of C:\ ?

You can't copy the SUB-directories without copying the target
directory with Xcopy UNLESS you play with the file "A"rchive
attribute bits.  The "/m" switch causes Xcopy to only copy files
with "A" bit ON and it turns it off as it copies the file.  It
doesn't look at the file date/time, only that archive bit.

If you want to copy all the subdirectory files since the last
backup you could first turn OFF the bits in the target directory
so those files won't be copied and the "/s" and "/m" will pick
up the new files (assuming their archive bit is ON).

Like this:
   attrib -A c:\*.*
   xcopy  c:\*.*  a:\backup\  /s/m

If you want to get all subdir files without the root then do
this:
   attrib +A c:\*.* /s
   attrib -A c:\*.*
   xcopy  c:\*.*  a:\backup\  /s/m

So by turning On or Off the "A"rchive bits you can control what
groups of files Xcopy will act upon when it sees its "/m" switch.

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I know this isn't directly HPLX related but the more internet
savy among you may want to read this...

  http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm

It describes a DoS Denial of Service attack and a detailed
analysis.  It turn out Win9x pcs are great attack tools (and
yours could be one of them!)

This affects all net users and that includes us.

interesting reading,
Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:26:36 +0800
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>> Has anyone been able to successfully get PDU on the 200lx to work via cable
>> with the Nokia 6220?
>
>You are talking about the 6210, right?

Sorry, typo error on my end.  Yes, I was referring to the 6210.


>> My cable connection looks like a mess.  I guess the problem is somewhere
>> here.  I've tried 3 scenarios:
>>
>> 1. HP cable<->5181-6639<->Nokia cable
>> 2. HP cable<->5181-6642<->5181-6641<->Nokia cable
>> 3. HP cable<->5181-6640<->5181-6641<->Nokia cable
>
>What is this?       

Based on the HP200LX User's guide ...
F1015A = HP serial cable
5181-6640 = printer adapter (with pic of printer)
5181-6642 = modem adapter (with pic of telephone)

Other adapter I have but don't know what they are ...
5181-6641 = ??? (with pic of computer)
5181-6639 = ??? (the only 9 pin male to 9 pin male adapter)

>Don't know about the needed baud rate at the Nokia phone, but at least
>the following cable combination should work:
>
>HP cable <-> HP NUll modem adapter <-> Nokia cable

So which one among the HP adapters I mentioned above is the null modem
adapter?  Is it the 5181-6639?

regards,

Oliver

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Date:         Thu, 31 May 2001 19:36:37 -0400
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        Russel Brooks ably wrote:
>   http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm
>
> It describes a DoS Denial of Service attack and a detailed

Seems he is still under attack. This started a while ago and
it basically disabled his website.

   Joe


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Date:         Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:29:11 +1000
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Hi all

I dont know about Minix but I had a problem with transfile and a 2 Meg text
file.  It would halt with no connection at varying places in the file but
statistically at the same place more than others. Speed made no difference
from 57K down to 1200.

The solution?  I ran checkdisk and found lost clusters. I copied the
offending file to another directory and ran chkdsk /f and then transfers
went along fine after that.

I trust this may be of use to some

Russell

PS I use 1600Mah CompUSA Nimh rechargeables with no probs.  USD$12.99 for 4

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Date:         Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:04:33 +0000
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Marc - wrote:
> Can someone recommend a scientific calculator that will run on the
> 200LX?  The built in app is OK, but is geared more towards business.
> Something with the ability to program complex formulas would be a plus,
> but not a necessity.

There are some calculator programs at SUPER.  You should also
check at the HP calculator museum; they had (or had pointers to)
simulators/emulators for many of the HP calculators.  I don't
have the URL handy but I'll dig it up if anyone is interested.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 31 May 2001 20:44:00 -0700
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Hello Werner;

Good to know APRS is alive and well in Germany!  Very popular here, though
have not heard of 200LX used for APRS!  You must send me details so I can
post them on the packeteer page.  What APRS program are you using?

LX-GPS requires linearly scaled maps in order to track properly, and -- as
far as I know -- MapBlast does produce linear maps at different scales, so
it should work!  It's just a matter of understanding the ratio of seconds
per pixel at the different scales.  Kopplin has replied saying he is working
on it, which is great!

73, Martin

--- Werner said:

I tried this with my APRS program, but the maps you get from mapblast have
not the right projection for this, and the larger the map the larger the
mistake.
I think the same will be true for LX-GPS.

If you have different findings, please let me know!

73!
Werner
OE9FWV


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