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--- Nathan Olsen <nolsen@ROCKEY-PORTLAND.COM> wrote:
> Well, I did hear there was something going on in
> Florida...
>
yesh, something bout an erectile dysfunction.
Nobody kould fix the erections but its getting
fixed now as donations of viagra is flowing in.

yor pal al.................


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Date:         Fri, 1 Dec 2000 00:16:56 -0500
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Thanks to all who suggested various web addresses for e-mail accounts. I'll
be checking them out.

>Try www.gmx.net
>it allows not only redirecting, but also various filters...

  My next question was going to be about filters, so it's good to see that
at least one provides filtering capability. If these e-mail accounts are
anything like hotmail (which doesn't allow forwarding) then filtering would
be pretty much essential considering the amount of junk mail that collects
there.

 Cheers!


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Date:         Fri, 1 Dec 2000 05:51:35 +0000
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WEB wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm interested it this external modem debate. So...this weekend I will
> dig out one of my USR V.90 external modems and hook it up to the 200LX
> and give a report of the speed. I will preform a couple of simple test
> to determine the relative speed of the external modem. I will run the
> same tests on my PCMCIA modem for comparison. I will post what I have
> determined.

I'm looking forward to your results.
Will you use a 1X or 2X LX?

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A Meshar wrote:
> WWW/LX is increbily uninterested in modems.  We put in the minimum code to
> deal with modems, and left it to the user to initialize and so on. I cannot
> say specifically that no, we do not detect uart, but based on the general
> "hands off" from the modem approach, I believe WWW/LX does not touch that
> subject.

Avi,
Actually the FIFO buffer is not part of the modem but part of the UART.
With a PCMCIA modem they are packaged together, otherwise the UART is
part of the LX's serial port hardware.  The buffer cannot be controlled
via the modem's "AT" commands; it should be handled earlier when the
serial port is first contacted by the program.

If WWW/LX is interested in extra reliable communication then it should
test for the large buffer and use it if found to reduce the chance of
dropping characters.  I believe the code to test for and activate the
larger buffer is pretty simple.

This doesn't matter to me (much) as I use an external modem and
therefore have to use the LX's UART which doesn't have the better UART.

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Date:         Fri, 1 Dec 2000 02:19:27 -0500
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From:         Francois Gurin <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Linksys net card & the lx
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              Nov 30, 2000 at 02:05:23PM -0500
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hrmm... something strange hapened this evening with the np100. i
popped it into my friends laptop running nt4.0 which wouldn't
initialize the card properly.  we tried for a bit but couldn't get
it to work.

later, i put it back in my 200lx, and while lxcic sees it and thee
accton packet driver gets the mac, it stopped working.  i still
shows link, but none of my wattcp based programs can open a socket.

i'm going to try it out on a win98 laptop on monday, which seems to
hav e the best documentation on the card as well as utilities.

until then, i aven't a clue what happened :(

--francois

On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 02:05:23PM -0500, Francois Gurin wrote:
> I've recently come across a Linksys Network Everywhere np100 pcmcia
> 10/100mb card and on looking up info, saw it was an ne2000 clone.
>
> I looked around for power info, but having found none, I just started
> experimenting with the card.
>
> The card initializes on my 200lx using LXCIC v2.1 and the EN2216 packet
> driver v11.1.3.
>
> The power draw when active is too much to run off batteries, but so
> far it's working when using external power without issue.  It
> generates less heat than my zoom 14.4k pcmcia modem after 15 minutes.
>
> When I get home I'll do some more checking.  I've seen this card going
> for about $35 in CompUSA, so it may not be a bad alternative for when
> you're tied down to a desk.
>
> http://www.networkeverywhere.com/pcmcia2.html
>
>
> Is anyone keeping a list of which network cards work?  So far every
> ne2000 compatible card I've come across works with lxcic and the accton
> packet driver when I'm plugged in, and some otherwise.
>
> --francois
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A log file which I created recently shows:

Licensed to Helmuth E. Guenther.

17068 bytes free.
Connecting (MSN)...
Opening serial port 1 at 38400 baud...
No FIFO encountered
Serial port 1 is ready.
AT.....


Kind regards

Helmuth

> WWW/LX is increbily uninterested in modems.  We put in the minimum code =
to
> deal with modems, and left it to the user to initialize and so on. I =
cannot
> say specifically that no, we do not detect uart, but based on the =
general
> "hands off" from the modem approach, I believe WWW/LX does not touch =
that
> subject.
>
> Avi
>
> At 11/30/00 +0000, you wrote:
> >Stefan Peichl wrote:
> > > But the existence of a FIFO buffer by itsself does not speed
> > > up the transfer. The software has to enable the FIFO buffer
> > > and must use it. Clever software detects the existence of a
> > > FIFO and uses it if available.
> >
> >Good point.  Avi, does WWW/LX detect and use the UART FIFO buffer?
> >
> >Cheers... Russ
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----- Original Message -----
From: "A Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject: Re: re-directing e-mail
> Another, perhaps even better is
> having your own domain.

Having a domain name that you maintain year in and year out is the best way
to go.  The domain name will remain as long as you keep it active.  Many
ISPs come and go and I wouldn't bet on any of them being around in say 30 or
40 years.   Even AOL may not be around (especially if they continue to crap
all over their customers).

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Subject:      Re: PDA with WYSIWYG wordprocessor.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@INAME.COM>
Subject: PDA with WYSIWYG wordprocessor.
> > IMHO, if you need WYSIWYG Word on a PDA,
> > the best option is going to be a WinCE or PocketPC
> > machine where you can run PocketWord.

If WYSIWYG is what is needed, I seem to recall that there was a WYSIWYG add
on for 123.  Anyone know if the WYSIWYG add on for 123 will work on the
200lx?  If it does run maybe you could run all of your WP on 123.

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To quote directly from the source (Andreas):

"You might want to try FIFO=1 in WWW.CFG to enable the FIFO buffer (most
PCMCIA modems support that). This should help in any case because it no
longer needs an interrupt for each single byte."

so it would seem WWW/LX does support the buffer on 16550s.


Getting back to 16450 uarts, I seem to recall back when the 16550 modems
were still expensive, that some 16450 models were implementing a FIFO
buffer in software. So for external modems on the LXs serial port,
couldn't one run a FIFO buffer TSR prior to the comm software?

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--- Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA> wrote:
> like hotmail (which doesn't allow forwarding)
> then filtering would be pretty much essential
> considering the amount of junk mail that collects
> there.

Wat do yu meen by forwarding?????
I stick my JUNO adrs into options and all replies
go to my JUNO adrs.  It also filter out all
unwanted junk and unwanted males.

>  Cheers!
yor pal al..................


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Hi,

You need at least 6-7MB free space and therefore a flash card would be
one solution.

Jorgen

> Can I run MS Word 6 (DOS) on my 1 MB HP200LX?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jorgen Wallgren" <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: 200LX compatibility with MS Word
>
> Hi,
>
> I am running Microsoft Word 6.0 for DOS on my 200LX, so it's easy to
> save the Word documents in the proper format on your desktop and then
> be able to open up the documents on the palmtop.
>

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Date:         Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:26:11 +0200
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Hello,

On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:39:53 -0800, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> WWW/LX is increbily uninterested in modems.  We put in the minimum code to
> deal with modems, and left it to the user to initialize and so on. I cannot
> say specifically that no, we do not detect uart, but based on the general
> "hands off" from the modem approach, I believe WWW/LX does not touch that
> subject.

In www.cfg you can add a line FIFO=1 (or 0) to every setup.
I think that is the way to tell www/lx that there is or is not a FIFO.
Right?

GTX
daniel

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Hi,

   I ran some tests on my single speed 200LX to add to
the confusion.  The book, "The Undocumented PC" by Frank
van Gilluwe, comes with software to determine the type
of UART and the maximum transfer rate of a connection
between two computers.

   The detection program says that the UART is an 8250A
or a 16450, which are functionally the same, except for
improved performance in the 16450.  Of course the 200LX
should have a clone of the 16450 given its date of birth.

   The maximum transfer rate program had to be modified
slightly to work.  He uses a strange null modem wiring,
so I had to change some tests to correspond to my HP
cable.  Also, some handshaking between the destop and
the palmtop needed an additional delay (on the desktop)
to avoid problems.

   Transfer to the desktop, all baud rates up to 115,200
worked properly.  Transfer to the HP, transfers up to
19,200 worked, 38,400 baud failed.

   This is a brute force test.  It deliberately tries to
overrun the receiver to test the capabilites of the
UART/computer system.  As such, it shows the practical
limits of the connection under test.  You can use higher
baud rates successfully, if a flow control protocal is
implemented.  But you won't get any appreciable change in
the amount of data transfered.

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Hello,

I am considering getting a wireless kit for my existing AT&T Digital phone
service and my Ericsson phone (LX888), to use my various IR-enabled devices
wirelessly - has anyone used this combination?

I am seeing the IR Modem (a clip-on for the bottom of my phone) model DI27
for about $179 - less $50 at amazon.com (incl. free shipping), and since
that will allow me to use not only my LX, but also my Palm and Libretto
systems, I think that is the best option (compared with PCMCIA card modem
and adapter cable model DC23, for about $199 - less $50 at amazon.com, incl.
free shipping).

The $50 off is a coupon good towards any wireless purchase over $100, use
coupon code AMZNCELLPHNE.

Thanks for any assistance,

Ken

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> You need at least 6-7MB free space and therefore a flash card would be
> one solution.

The Word 5.5 for DOS needs half of it, I think the minimum without
helpfile is ~800 kB :

ACADEMIC STY      1536 05-06-91  12:00p
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Hi There,

I just would like to check which is the latest version of FFDB by
Brian McIlvaine and if I remember correctly, it was released with
source code... Where can I find it?

Thanks,

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Hi,

Another interesting option is using Wordperfect 5.1 or 5.0 for DOS in the
Palmop. You can read and save your files with this format in M$ Word 97 or
2000. I haven't tried it but there should acceptable compatibility beteween
both of them. You could also try some version of Word for DOS on the
Palmtop. I think version 5.0 is now freeware( Check at Microsoft). The best
thing is to check all the possible formats Word 97 or 2000 accepts
(file/save as../...) and then find the program that suits you best(on the
palmtop) and is compatible with one of those formats.

Cheers,

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> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, F. Kaufman wrote:
>
> > The next step probably would be to disguise scramdisk and then even if
> > found, remove any history is stores (does it) so that it does not offer
> > to open files in the subdirectory, you last looked at!   But I don't see
> > where it offers "disk" size like the other version.
>
> Fred,
>
> If you're asking why you don't get offered a disk size for wav
> file steganography, it's because the "random" bytes of the
> encrypted volume replace the top 25% "random" high order bits

Thanks - that explains things.  I thought the prior version did ask size
but that may be where I kept running into problems!

It is a very interesting concept.  Now, if only I could convince myself
it works, that the volume is safe and I can erase the original data
files! (G)

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Hi,

Has anybody used the Psion Gold Card on the Palmtop. This card is PCMCIA
compatible but I don't know the power it requires, or if it needs special
drivers. I am refering to the old 33.600 version.

TIA,

Inigo
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hi Tomas,

I got my copy from a friend, but I think it is included in the
networking package on Roger Whitbie's page.
http://rwhitby.hplx.net/lxmnc/index.html
I have put it also on my homepage.
you find it under links/hp200 or direct under
http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/Acctest.exe

Werner



On 30 Nov 2000, at 14:49, Tomas By wrote:

> Werner Furlan writes:
> > For all who want to test their card with acctest.exe: this is possible
> > in the palmtop without being connected to a network.
>
> I did a web search for acctest.exe and found some copies that seemed to
> be for other models (en2218 etc)
>
> is there one for en2216 and where can it be found?
>
> /Tomas
>



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I'm fairly sure it does.  I use the Toshiba V34 card and it appears to be
the Psion card.  It works fine.  The 56k version draws too much power IMHO -
but they have stopped putting the current draw in the user manual.

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 Is there a way to recognize the following error code while running a batch file and then branch if that error code occurs?

The error is:

"Not ready reading drive G
Abort, Retry, Fail?"

TIA

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Hello List members

I am trying to build a custom serial cable for the HP, I have found the
special 2mm connector and the pins for a cable (both mouser and digikey
sells them) but have been unsuccessful in finding a strain
relief/housing for the connector. Does anyone have any ideas of where I
might look or who might sell them? By the way, Mouser Electronics is a
great source for HP related items. They sell a one outlet universal
(90-270 VAC) switching 12 V power supply with folding prongs for less
than 20 dollars. They sell
all kinds of batteries from 700 mAh Nicads to 1600 mAH NiMH. They also
have parts to build null modem adapters including the housing which I
found to be hard to find. Plus they have the power jack, 2mm serial
cable connectors, pins, and all kinds of other stuff. If you like to tinker
with the HP or just in general electronics, Mouser is a good source.
Plus they don't have a minimum order. I don't work for them just a
happy customer:-).

John

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On 30-11 22:47 MET, vous avez ecrit:

> Hi,
>
> I was gone for a while but now I'm back. I had to unsubcribe a few we=
eks ago
> due to a job change.  Did I miss anything big?

No... Only the HP's gift to the members of the list :

The 10 units of the HP250LX prototype (486 compatible - 100 Mhz,
64 Mb Ram, VGA Color screen, integrated V90 modem, OS Choice : MS-DOS
or Linux in self-updatable kernel Rom, ...)

There were given to the fastest responding members...

Except that, you have not missed anything !


<g>


Jacques.



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> I am trying to build a custom serial cable for the HP, I have found the
> special 2mm connector and the pins for a cable (both mouser and digikey
> sells them) but have been unsuccessful in finding a strain
> relief/housing for the connector. Does anyone have any ideas of where I
> might look or who might sell them? By the way, Mouser Electronics is a


I don't know where you might find one, but I came up with my own
solution. It makes a very solid connector, and it doesn't look too bad
when finished. And if you're a tinkerer, you probably have everything you
need already.

See http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/misc/serial.html

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What? still no backlighting? hrmph! ;-<


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacques Belin" <listes2@ALTERN.ORG>
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Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: FLUFF I'm back


On 30-11 22:47 MET, vous avez ecrit:

> Hi,
>
> I was gone for a while but now I'm back. I had to unsubcribe a few weeks
ago
> due to a job change.  Did I miss anything big?

No... Only the HP's gift to the members of the list :

The 10 units of the HP250LX prototype (486 compatible - 100 Mhz,
64 Mb Ram, VGA Color screen, integrated V90 modem, OS Choice : MS-DOS
or Linux in self-updatable kernel Rom, ...)

There were given to the fastest responding members...

Except that, you have not missed anything !


<g>


Jacques.



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> I don't know where you might find one, but I came up with my own
> solution. It makes a very solid connector, and it doesn't look too bad
> when finished. And if you're a tinkerer, you probably have everything you
> need already.
>
> See http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/misc/serial.html
>
> Mike Kopplin

Nice idea:-).

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Mike Kopplin wrote:
> couldn't one run a FIFO buffer TSR prior to the comm software?

The whole issue of the FIFO buffer is to protect software that can't
service the hardware often enough.  I don't see how a software buffer
would be any better than the comm software at responding to the UART
in a timely fashion.

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This took me about 1 second to process! Then the fog parted and I got a
good laugh... Thank you :)

At 12/1/00 +0100, you wrote:
>On 30-11 22:47 MET, vous avez ecrit:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was gone for a while but now I'm back. I had to unsubcribe a few
> weeks ago
> > due to a job change.  Did I miss anything big?
>
>No... Only the HP's gift to the members of the list :
>
>The 10 units of the HP250LX prototype (486 compatible - 100 Mhz,
>64 Mb Ram, VGA Color screen, integrated V90 modem, OS Choice : MS-DOS
>or Linux in self-updatable kernel Rom, ...)
>
>There were given to the fastest responding members...
>
>Except that, you have not missed anything !
>
>
><g>
>
>
>Jacques.
>
>
>
>Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v4.03) EVALUATION
>
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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Hi,

The duration of charging would depend on the rating of your rechargeable
batteries, eg 1300mAh, or 1600mAh.

There are several battery charging software available on the S.U.P.E.R site
at http://www.palmtop.net/super.html that will allow you to monitor and
control the charging process.  I am using Peniel Romanelli's CHARGE-IT!

I also use a 416 byte BAT.COM from Jorgen Dybdahl's Charging, which can
show the state (in percentages) of your main and backup batteries in the LX.

Thanks to the help of the list members here, I have learnt that it is best
to allow the NiMH batteries to drop to around 2.3 to 2.4 volts before
charging again.  A pair of NiMH should last several years in the LX.

What AC adaptor are you using?  Please note that polarity has to be
correct: plus outside, minus inside (see diagram on bottom of 200LX).  The
HP adaptor for the 100/200LX has regulated output of 12volt at 0.75A.

 >From: "Behnam Molavi" <mr_molavi@bigfoot.com>
 >Newsgroups: list.hplx
 >Subject: Charging duration
 >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:54:53 +0330
 >
 >Hi all
 >I haven't used rechargable batteries before.Now I have bought a pair.My
 >question is how long the batteries must be charged inside Palmtop(I have a
 >200LX).
 >Behnam
 >

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On 1 Dec 2000, at 15:06, Ed Padin wrote:

> What? still no backlighting? hrmph! ;-<

Well, Ed passes the test.  He's definitely one of us <g>.

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> I am trying to build a custom serial cable for the HP, I have found the
> special 2mm connector and the pins for a cable (both mouser and digikey
> sells them) but have been unsuccessful in finding a strain <SNIP>

I've mentioned this several times on the list.  There's a fellow who
has a shareware-like *hardware* concept where he give away connectors
and you pay him what you think they are worth.  It's called the Purple
Open Project, as I recall.  He mainly makes special Garmin connectors
for their GPS receivers.

I approached him a couple of years ago about making an HP200LX serial
cable.  He said if we could find the innards, and had a reasonable
number of potential users, he could make the mold.

What's amazing is that this guy has a an 88-ton injection plastic
molding machine in his kitchen!  I bet the neighbors love it when
he fires that thing up on molding days!

I have also passed this along to Thaddeus in the past.  I can only
guess from the lack of an HP200LX connector on his page that nothing
was agreed upon at that time.  Perhaps the time is ripe to re-visit
the matter.  If someone wants, I can dig up my old e-mail exchanges
with this guy and refresh my memory on what we discussed.

-Chris


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Did you sell the Card yet?

If not let me know

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Cliff Crittenden wrote:
> Is there a way to recognize the following error code while running a
> batch file and then branch if that error code occurs?
>
> The error is:
>
> "Not ready reading drive G
> Abort, Retry, Fail?"

I believe you'll have to use an external tool to check the drive.  You
can do it with the DosDisk() funtion of Personal Rexx but that isn't a
popular language for most folks.

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> Stefan P. wrote a nice tsr that enables one of the gpio pins that is
> unused and makes it a nice backlite on off switch. Would
> anyone like to
> see it on the SUPER site with instructions showing which pin it is?

I did find one problem with using the pin selected for the backlighting in
that the code to enable this pin for use causes a higher power drain on the
palmtop while it is enabled. I had to turn off the backlighting code that
was in version 1.7 of my speed upgrade driver and created a version 1.8 and
several versions since then that draw less power, especially when a
flashcard is used in the palmtop.

Several other here can attest to this power drain problem as the newer
driver fixed it. I have also gone through extensive testing of the newer
drivers in terms of power with the very big help of Helmuth Geunther.

I was very disappointed to find that the backlight code was a huge source of
the problem.

Thanks,
Mack Baggette

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Date:         Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:21:27 -0600
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> I think the important factor is the UART type in the LX.  If it is an
> 8250 as I think it is then the important thing is it ONLY has a 1
> character buffer (versus a 16 character buffer in a 16550 UART).

The palmtop actually implements a "16450 compatible macro cell" in the
Hornet chip. I don't know what the buffer size is for a 16450 but it should
be the same as what the Hornet uses.

Cheers,
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>    Transfer to the desktop, all baud rates up to 115,200
> worked properly.  Transfer to the HP, transfers up to
> 19,200 worked, 38,400 baud failed.

Transfer's to the palmtop are highly dependant on the software you are using
to do the transfer. If too much work is attempted during the serial port
interrupt at higher baud rates then you will get failures. Software that
requires a lot of stuff to be done while recieving data should make the
serial port interrupt store data only and then the program can poll an
internal buffer for new data at given intervals.

Cheers,
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Date:         Sat, 2 Dec 2000 08:22:04 +0100
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Stefan,

> I also uploaded another utility called MODEM.COM, which checks,
> if a modem is connected to a comport. Download from:
>
> http://peichl.hplx.net/modem.zip

thanks once more for your contributions.

What would be the advantage of MODEM over LXCIC which I use at present
in SETCOM.BAT to determine modem hardware ?
...
@rem identify communication hardware settings
c:\tools\lxcic.com > NUL:
if errorlevel 7 goto external
if errorlevel 6 goto lan
if errorlevel 3 goto external
if errorlevel 2 goto pcmcia
...


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sat, 2 Dec 2000 12:23:42 +0100
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              Josef Meyer <meyerj@SWISSONLINE.CH>
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Subject:      Re: Does the Psion Gold card work on the Hp 200lx
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I use a Psion Gold Card V34+FAX with my 200LX without any problems.
According to the manual it needs a power of 750mW. I assume this is
equal to 150mA at 5V.

I use Stefan Peichl's LXCIC PC card enabler, but the original CIC100
works as well.

Don't worry about the "Low Card Battery" warning when the modem is
plugged in, just skip it by pressing 'escape'.

Due to relatively high power consumption of the modem card, I only use
it with the power adaptor.

Josef

Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anybody used the Psion Gold Card on the Palmtop. This card is PCMCIA
> compatible but I don't know the power it requires, or if it needs special
> drivers. I am refering to the old 33.600 version.
>
> TIA,
>
> Inigo
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Mike Kopplin wrote:

> couldn't one run a FIFO buffer TSR prior to the comm software?

This is exactly what has to be done if you use the serial port
in interrupt mode. The "TSR" is the interrupt service routine
you have to provide. It is invoked every time, a character is
received by the UART. The service routine reads this character,
puts it into it's own "FIFO" buffer, which is a ringbuffer and
then ACKs the interrupt.

If and only if a second character arrives, while the interrupt
service routine has not yet ACKed the first interrupt, you will
loose this second character (called overrun error). Therefore
the interrupt service routine has to be as fast as possible.
Usually it is in the range of about 20 bytes:

-Read character
-write it into the ringbuffer
-check for ringbuffer wrap around.
-ACK interrupt

All this happens without notification of the comm software
running. The comm software may be as complex or as simple
as possible, it only has to look from time to time into
the ringbuffer to see if characters have arrived. The bigger
the ringbuffer, the less frequent it has to look. The
ringbuffer may have a size of 64KB.

The advantage of this solution is, that the comm software
decides, when to look for new input.

A FIFO buffer on the UART only decreases the number of
interrupts, because not every character causes an interrupt,
but only every 14th character or so (configurable).

If a UART FIFO is in use, the interrupt service routine has
to continue reading characters from the UART until the FIFO
is empty. But same as without FIFO, the service routine writes
these characters into it's own ringbuffer and the comm software
is completely unaware of the FIFO, because it is handled in the
interrupt service routine.

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              John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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> > I am trying to build a custom serial cable for the HP, I have found the
> > special 2mm connector and the pins for a cable (both mouser and digikey
> > sells them) but have been unsuccessful in finding a strain <SNIP>
>
> I've mentioned this several times on the list.  There's a fellow who
> has a shareware-like *hardware* concept where he give away connectors
> and you pay him what you think they are worth.  It's called the Purple
> Open Project, as I recall.  He mainly makes special Garmin connectors
> for their GPS receivers.
<snip>

Sure, I would be interested in it. I only need a couple housings
though. What would his minimum order be? Would he fire up his machine
for an order of less than a couple thousand? Is there enough interest?

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Getting back to 16450 uarts, I seem to
> recall back when the 16550 modems
> were still expensive, that some 16450
> models were implementing a FIFO
> buffer in software. So for external modems
> on the LXs serial port, couldn't one run a
> FIFO buffer TSR prior to the comm software?

This is doing the same thing the comm program is doing, using an
interrupt per character.  There might be some small advantage since
the TSR probably won't do as much during each interrupt, but the
comm program, if it's written well, won't do much either.  And the
comm program has to keep interrupts turned off while dealing with
the software FIFO buffer and with it's own internal buffer.  Unless
the comm program is fairly sloppy I can't see that there'd be much
advantage to this.

Am I overlooking something?  I didn't read the earlier messages in
this thread?

Barry

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> Is there a way to recognize the following
> error code while running a batch file and
> then branch if that error code occurs?
>
> The error is:
>
> "Not ready reading drive G
> Abort, Retry, Fail?"

It seems that I remember seeing the interrupt that's used when this
message occurs.  Probably either in HelpPC or Ralf Brown's interrupt
list.

If I'm right, you'll need a program that will intercept that
interrupt and terminate with an error level.  It would also have to
have some way to know to terminate if that error didn't occur.
Probably another program to tell it that would follow in the batch
file but be branched around if there was an error.

This wouldn't be that hard to write in asm and not too difficult in
C.  But it would have to be used carefully and sparingly or it could
cause problems.

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On Fri,  1 Dec 2000 15:56:53 +0000 (GMT), Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Has anybody used the Psion Gold Card on the Palmtop.

Using it right now. This message is sent with a Psion Gold Card V34 +
Fax Pcmcia Modem.

> This card is PCMCIA
> compatible but I don't know the power it requires, or if it needs special
> drivers.

I just Lxcic it before I start Www/lx and it works right away.

> I am refering to the old 33.600 version.

I get 33.6 when I connect to my isp with a 2x Hp200lx.

I would recommend it. I do not think it draws to much power. I think it
is right on the limit. I can not remember where I got that information.
Maybe from Psion's homepage.

Regards

--
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Subject:      Re: Palmtop uses a 16450 UART
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Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>

Wrote:
>>    Transfer to the desktop, all baud rates up to 115,200
>> worked properly.  Transfer to the HP, transfers up to
>> 19,200 worked, 38,400 baud failed.
>
>
>Transfer's to the palmtop are highly dependant on the software you are using
>to do the transfer. If too much work is attempted during the serial port
>interrupt at higher baud rates then you will get failures. Software that
>requires a lot of stuff to be done while recieving data should make the
>serial port interrupt store data only and then the program can poll an
>internal buffer for new data at given intervals.
>
>Cheers,
>Mack

   This was software that polled the UART and stores 512 bytes
to memory.  The only work done was to check for a control-break.
No interrupts were used.  This only shows how fast the 200LX can
1) look for a byte incoming from the UART, and 2) store it to
memory without errors.

HTH
Steve

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Is Word 6 for DOS available anywhere, or does anyone have a copy they don't
want?

Richard

Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You need at least 6-7MB free space and therefore a flash card would be
> one solution.
>
> Jorgen
>
> > Can I run MS Word 6 (DOS) on my 1 MB HP200LX?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jorgen Wallgren" <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
> > To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 6:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: 200LX compatibility with MS Word
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am running Microsoft Word 6.0 for DOS on my 200LX, so it's easy to
> > save the Word documents in the proper format on your desktop and then
> > be able to open up the documents on the palmtop.
> >
>
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From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Subject:      Re: Palmtop uses a 16450 UART
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>    This was software that polled the UART and stores 512 bytes
> to memory.  The only work done was to check for a control-break.
> No interrupts were used.  This only shows how fast the 200LX can
> 1) look for a byte incoming from the UART, and 2) store it to
> memory without errors.

If the software doesn't use the serial port interrupt to receive data and
did a polling operation instead then that probably explains the problem
right there. You can't do that on the 200LX for high speed transfers. You
have to use the interrupt method instead of polling.

Cheers,
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Try this - it is a test for a drive being ready.

@ECHO OFF
IF '%1'=='' GOTO BAD_PARAM
FOR %%v IN (/%1) DO IF NOT %%v==%1 GOTO BAD_PARAM
:TEST_DRIVE
  REM>$$TEST$$.$$$
  %COMSPEC% NUL /F /C IF EXIST %1:\NUL DEL $$TEST$$.$$$
  IF NOT EXIST $$TEST$$.$$$ GOTO DRIVE_READY
  DEL $$TEST$$.$$$
  ECHO Please put a disk in drive %1: and press a key when ready...
  PAUSE>NUL
GOTO TEST_DRIVE
:DRIVE_READY
ECHO Drive %1: is ready.
GOTO End
:BAD_PARAM
ECHO SYNTAX: "%0 d", where d is a drive letter
:End



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On Wednesday, 29.11.2000 at 06:25 GMT, Russel Brooks  wrote:
> A Meshar wrote:
> > >Scramdisk supports .wav file steganography - amazing concept.
> >
> > What is steganography?   TIA
>
> It's sort of like encryption.  Instead of hiding your data in a securely
> locked file (like SecDev) you hide it in unused or unimportant bits as
> part of another file.  One example: you trade JPG files back and forth
> with a friend.  Anyone monitoring your traffic just sees the pictures;
> they don't notice the hidden data traveling within the files in those
> low importance bits that don't affect the picture quality at all (or
> very little).
>
The appeal of steganography is a lot more theoretical than practical. Note
that if an eavesdropper ever gets access to the unmodified version of the
file, the whole concept goes down the drain. This makes the selection of
(picture or whatever) files extremely important and, at the same time, very
difficult.

For a more thorough assessment of steganography, see Bruce Schneier's
excellent new book "Secrets and Lies: Digital Security in a Networked
World", Wiley & Sons, 2000.

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Hi There!

> Is Word 6 for DOS available anywhere, or does anyone have a copy they =
don't
> want?

Since I have never seen Microsoft Word 6.0 for DOS anywhere- not even
in "abandoneware" web sites, I assume that my copy is a rare one- worth
to keep... Version 6.0 is much better than 5.5, which is available on the
net- so if you need version 6.0- you could always give me an
offer.. :-)

Regards,

Jorgen

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Wallgren" <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Since I have never seen Microsoft Word 6.0 for DOS anywhere- not even
in "abandoneware" web sites, I assume that my copy is a rare one- worth
to keep... Version 6.0 is much better than 5.5, which is available on the
net- so if you need version 6.0- you could always give me an
offer.. :-)
------New Message------------
You may want to stick with an earlier version.  Version 6.0 had a lot of
bugs.

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Are there any English dictionaries that run with this software?

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All, but especially Avi,

Some time ago, I sent a "wish" that I could mark an e-mail that
I'd started to read as unread (put the blob back). You said I'd
have to write an external program to manipulate the flag.

By accident, I found the feature in 2.2g! Whilst reading the
mail (not from the mail list) you can type Ctrl-N and New
appears on the title bar and the blob is put back. Is this a
"g" feature? Did you know it was there? (Be honest now ;-) )
It is in the help file but, hey, who reads that? ;-) I'm so
pleased to have found it, it's like having a 2.2h! BTW, I
haven't upgraded to v3 cos I'm skint :-(

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On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, <fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> It is a very interesting concept.  Now, if only I could convince myself
> it works, that the volume is safe and I can erase the original data
> files! (G)

I saw the grin, but just in case there was some grain of
seriousness in your comments, and with apologies to the list
that this is all Windows based, I trust the program because:

1) You can choose the encryption algorithm from a choice of
nine including Blowfish which has a good reputation.

2) The algorithm section is a sort of plug-in, so you can add
your others should they become available.

3) Scramdisk comes with source code. I've never seen any
adverse comments about its integrity.

4) The steganography option doesn't mix your data into the wav
file, it mixes the encrypted volume data. Data hiding AND
encryption.

5) The BestCrypt file wiping program that comes with their
encrpytion program is freeware - http://www.jetico.com. It
has numerous options including wiping to DoD 5200.28-STD
standard. It also wipes the Windows swapfile after it's
finished.

6) Bestcrypt also have a program (not sure whether this one's
freeware or if it's part of their commercial offering) that
will wipe slack space between the end of data and the end of
cluster for all files on a disk.

There. Secure enough for you? Now nobody has any excuse for
their wife to discover their secret cache of Pamela Anderson
pictures. ;-)

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> Is Word 6 for DOS available anywhere, or does anyone have a copy they don't
> want?

I think MS even still makes 5.5 available somewhere on its site to
overcome the problem with 5.0 being Y2K buggie!!!  You are supposed to
have 5.0 but I don't believe they run any checks.

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jorgen Wallgren" <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
> Since I have never seen Microsoft Word 6.0 for DOS anywhere- not even
> in "abandoneware" web sites, I assume that my copy is a rare one- worth
> to keep... Version 6.0 is much better than 5.5, which is available on =
the
> net- so if you need version 6.0- you could always give me an
> offer.. :-)
> ------New Message------------
> You may want to stick with an earlier version.  Version 6.0 had a lot =
of
> bugs.
>
If that's the case- I have at least not experienced any bugs at all!
:-)

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Does anyone know the HTML required to automatically redirect a web page?

Jeff

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Date:         Sun, 3 Dec 2000 09:29:27 +0100
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Hi Cliff,

when i was mailbox-sysop in 1992 i coded a tool, that will fit your need
exactly.
The tool checks for succeed in opening any known file on any drive.

Here is a sample batch file:

exist f:\anydir\anyfile.doc
if errorlevel 1 goto notready
:okay
echo File/Drive okay for access
goto end
:notready
echo File open error (File does not exist
echo or Drive not ready).
:end

you can get this tool here:
http://www.eu-vorteile.de/hplx/exist.zip

Happy LXing!
J=FCrgen.

Cliff Crittenden schrieb:

>  Is there a way to recognize the following error code while running a b=
atch file and then branch if that error code occurs?
>
> The error is:
>
> "Not ready reading drive G
> Abort, Retry, Fail?"

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Hans Peter Staber wrote:

> What would be the advantage of MODEM over LXCIC which I use at present
> in SETCOM.BAT to determine modem hardware ?

Let me summarize the utilities we have available for detecting
communications hardware connected to either COM1 or COM2:

PORT1.EXE by Andreas Garzotto
-----------------------------
 detects a modem at COM1

COM_ID.SCR by Helmuth G=FCnther
-----------------------------
 detects a *SPECIFIC* modem at COM1

MODEM.COM
---------
 detects a modem at COM1 or COM2 (also PCMCIA)

LXCIC.COM
---------
 detects a PCMCIA card at COM2 (modem or ethernet)


Depending on the communications hardware you use, your
SETCOM.BAT should contain one or more of the utilities.

For my needs MODEM.COM is sufficient, because I either use
an external modem at COM1, or a PCMCIA modem at COM2 or
a mobile phone via IR.

Stefan

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Stefan,

> COM_ID.SCR by Helmuth G=FCnther
> -----------------------------
>  detects a *SPECIFIC* modem at COM1

I use com_id.scr in combination with port1.exe or modem.com.

First I check if anything is connected to com1 using one of the
mentioned programs. After that robot.exe with com_id.scr checks what
type of modem is connected and sets the appropriate parameters for the
selected found modem and the selected ISP.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Sun, 3 Dec 2000 09:46:25 -0500
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>I think MS even still makes 5.5 available somewhere on its site
The MS Word Download Site is:
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloadDetails/Wd55ben.htm?s=/downloadCat
alog/dldWord.htm

>to overcome the problem with 5.0 being Y2K buggie!!!
It is the Y2K fix.

Of course I got this information from the Palmtop Paper:

http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/48/48c0000a.htm

Scott

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hi,

the man you are talking about is Larry, and you can find his
homepage here:

http://pfranc.com/projects/g45contr/g45_idx.htm

He makes Garmin plugs for the Etrax/Emap and for the
Garmin's with the round 4 pin connector.
The problem when you make a plug is that you need a mold for
the plug and that is not cheap. So I am sure that you cannot
order so many plugs, that a mold is payed. There are much
more users of Garmins around than HP200 users who need a
serial plug.
I made the plug myself with these 2mm connectors and the
housing is a shrink tube. It is not as beautiful but works.

Werner


on 2 Dec 2000, at  9:42, John Musielewicz wrote about
"Re: Housing for serial cable":

> > > I am trying to build a custom serial cable for the HP, I have
> > > found the special 2mm connector and the pins for a cable (both
> > > mouser and digikey sells them) but have been unsuccessful in
> > > finding a strain <SNIP>
> >
> > I've mentioned this several times on the list.  There's a fellow
> > who has a shareware-like *hardware* concept where he give away
> > connectors and you pay him what you think they are worth.  It's
> > called the Purple Open Project, as I recall.  He mainly makes
> > special Garmin connectors for their GPS receivers.
> <snip>
>
> Sure, I would be interested in it. I only need a couple housings
> though. What would his minimum order be? Would he fire up his
> machine for an order of less than a couple thousand? Is there enough
> interest?
>
> John
>



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Date:         Sun, 3 Dec 2000 10:51:59 -0500
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I bought a 40MB ATA Flash Card from Magic Ram a few years ago.  It works in
the HPLX flawlessley and I have been trying to get it to work in my IBM
ThinkPad 600, running Windows 98, unsuccessfully.

I took the Magic Ram sticker off to find out it is an "Epson - Flash Card -
ATA Series - 40MB."  The sticker on back identifies it as an "ATA412EN12,
(C) SunDisk."

The driver that Windows 98 loads for it is SanDisk ATA Flash Disk (5-11-98).

I went to Magic Ram's web site and tried to do what is described here:
http://www.magicram.com/memsupport.htm

The step that is failing me is:
5. Change the I/O by double clicking Input/Output and clicking on the up
arrows.

I simply cannot change the I/O; I get a dialog box telling me "This resource
setting cannot be modified."  This leads me to believe that the wrong driver
is being used.  However, since SanDisk was SunDisk in a former life...

I have been wandering the web trying to find the glitch and I send this in
hopes that one of you already solved it.

Scott

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff" <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
>              --      Where are the missing ballots??      --
>              --       http://www.MissingBallots.com       --

They are inside of the battery compartment of an hp200lx.

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Date:         Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:22:55 +0000
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> There. Secure enough for you? Now nobody has any excuse for
> their wife to discover their secret cache of Pamela Anderson
> pictures. ;-)

I'm glad to know Natasha Kinski and the boa (and this was no feather
duster either!) will be safe from prying eyes.

And all semi-kidding aside, thanks for the rest of the info.  Including
responding to the steg.... concerns someone else raised.

I really find the mass of codes and registrations and lock-codes for my
phone and email passwords growing and the computer was not necessarily
simplifying life in any measureable way!

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Dear Fellow Palmtoppers:   Since November 11th, we had a terrific run! We
offered a 50% discount on WWW/LX purchases to the first 100 orders, and the
community responded enthusiastically. In fact it was a bit wild :-)
!!!  But the end of the offer has come. The offer ends at midnight Sunday,
December 3, 2000. Orders with the 50% discount price cannot be accepted,
sorry.

I am always amazed anew about how much life there is in this "obsolete
machine".  I keep thinking about "what if": What if HP put into the
development of these machines 1/10 of the resources they put into the WinCE
machines.

Today HP would be the ONLY vendor out there with a Palmtop sized device
that can run for a week on two AA batteries, with a 486 chip running at oh,
say 100MHz, with 128MB memory, ample memory to run MSDOS 5.0, MSDOS 6.2,
PCDOS 7, DR-DOS, Win95, Win98, WinNT, WinME, Win2000, Linux (several
variants), BEOS, whatever...

HP could be the ONLY vendor out there powring these machines with a 1GB
Microdrive by IBM (powered by an external powerpack the size of a carddeck)
or 512MB PCMCIA by Simple Technologies or Sandisk.

HP  would be the ONLY vendor with a fully capable machine that fits in
people's pockets WITHOUT TEARING them to shreds!

HP would be the ONLY vendor that can lay claim to the term
"PocketPower"!  They could apply these little machines in their new,
improved, server strategy - it would save BILLIONS to its customers in rack
space, computer rooms, and more. Imagine this: A regular 2.5m bench with
racks FILLED with HUNDREDS of HP 260LXs - that is the whole space
requirement for a HUGE server farm!  To accomodate this today requires some
serious floor space!

Imagine the ubiquity of HP 260LXs along the lines of cell phones!

I know it was hard to find screens anymore - that is because the DEMAND for
them was so low - HP was buying a tiny number. What if they purchased
hundreds of thousands? I bet the production lines would be humming, the
engineers would scratch enough heads to come up with a cheap (price and
power) color screen with exquisite clarity - even in sunlight. The
technology is CERTAINLY available, it just needs some $$$ fertilization to
grow into production.

Oh well, it was nice to dream here for awhile...

Ms. Carly Fiorina - what will you do with the billions you did not spend on
Pricewaterhouse-Coopers?  <SIGN>

    Avi M.
    D&A Software

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> I bought a 40MB ATA Flash Card from Magic Ram a few years ago.  It works in
> the HPLX flawlessley and I have been trying to get it to work in my IBM
> ThinkPad 600, running Windows 98, unsuccessfully.

I have used a variety of Sandisk cards in my Thinkpad 240 also using
win98.  I believe it is using its "normal" pcmcia support but I really
don't know what that might be!

> I took the Magic Ram sticker off to find out it is an "Epson - Flash Card -
> ATA Series - 40MB."  The sticker on back identifies it as an "ATA412EN12,
> (C) SunDisk."

The only thing (I don't recall all serial number rules) is that it might
be an older 12 volt card and I do not know that for sure or what impact
that might have on its accessibility in a laptop????

Good luck

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Date:         Sun, 3 Dec 2000 11:38:01 -0500
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              John Menard <menard99812@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Hey People,

Has anyone heard of a program that would allow you to dial into your home
computer using your HP200lx and access files? I used to have a copy of PC
anywhere for dos (the old version under 1meg) that would allow me to dial
into my home computer and access files and run programs.

Thanks.
_____________________________________________________________________________________
Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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Date:         Sun, 3 Dec 2000 08:34:17 -0800
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Subject:      Re: HTML To Redirect Page?
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Try tis:

<HTML>
<HEAD>
       <META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh"
CONTENT="0;URL=http://www.the.new.page.here.com/xxx.html">
    <TITLE>The title of your page...</TITLE>
</HEAD>


At 12/3/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Does anyone know the HTML required to automatically redirect a web page?

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Date:         Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:47:00 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Post/LX read/unread mail feature
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Chris Randle wrote:
> By accident, I found the feature in 2.2g! Whilst reading the
> mail (not from the mail list) you can type Ctrl-N and New
> appears on the title bar and the blob is put back. Is this a

It doesn't work for me.  (I've got v3 but still using 2.2g.)

Cheers... Russ

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How about forwarding this letter to HP's corporate office at

  HP Corporate Office
  3000 Hanover Street 20BX
  Palo Alto CA 94304

HP used to be innovative in small amazing devices...

  HP35/HP65/HP85/Thinkjet/Omnibook/HP95-200LX/etc

Then there was the HP28S. I read an article that this was the most complex device
ever manufactured by man! HP ought to be reminded of their roots. Well, yes there
printers are improving with technology, but they are only new and improved, not
amazing. Think what kind of a market the HP260LX would spark!

Now I recently purchased an ICOM IC-Q7, a hand held 2 meter/70 cm two band
transceiver. I've hit repeaters at 40 miles with it. Runs of two AA's. It is also
a scanner from 30MHz to 1.3GHz and with a computer will temporarily kick in to a
500KHz to 2GHz receive machine. It is about one-third the size of the 200LX. This
kind of innovation is what we used to see from HP. (I will have to admit that the
stock antenna will tickle my nose if I put it in my shirt pocket.)

Bob

A Meshar wrote:
>
> Today HP would be the ONLY vendor out there with a Palmtop sized device
> that can run for a week on two AA batteries, with a 486 chip running at oh,
> say 100MHz, with 128MB memory, ample memory to run MSDOS 5.0, MSDOS 6.2,
> PCDOS 7, DR-DOS, Win95, Win98, WinNT, WinME, Win2000, Linux (several
> variants), BEOS, whatever...
>

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Thanks Jorgen; but another kind list member (Tony Kan) beat you to it.
Thanks also to Ken, F. Kaufman, and Scott. There are so many really
helpful people on this list, it's positively unsettling :-))



Richard


Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> Hi There!
>
> > Is Word 6 for DOS available anywhere, or does anyone have a copy they don't
> > want?
>
> Since I have never seen Microsoft Word 6.0 for DOS anywhere- not even
> in "abandoneware" web sites, I assume that my copy is a rare one- worth
> to keep... Version 6.0 is much better than 5.5, which is available on the
> net- so if you need version 6.0- you could always give me an
> offer.. :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
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Try this also
<script>
setTimeout("location.href =3D `http://whereyouwanttogo.com'",20000);
</script>


> Does anyone know the HTML required to automatically redirect a web =
page?
>
> Jeff

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On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Timothy P. Kelley wrote:

> Try this also
> <script>
> setTimeout("location.href = `http://whereyouwanttogo.com'",20000);
> </script>

Okay, that also works. Now let me ask one more question about redirection.
How can I make a certain URL appear in the browser address spot (where you
type the URL)? In other words, how can I make http://www.domain.name.here
instead of http://www.blah.blah.blah

Thanks to all that have offered help.

Jeff

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Jorgen
The trouble is a lot of my documents end up with diagrams,
pictures and hyperlinks; so I use the palmtop to do my drafting
and then transfer the document to my desktop as it gets bigger.
In a funny kind of way, with Word 2000 not supporting Word for DOS
anymore, its becoming more convenient to start using Wordperfect
for DOS!
Cheers
Tony.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jorgen Wallgren mailto:wallgren@singnet.com.sg
Sent: Monday, 4 December 2000 00:36
To: Tony Kan
Subject: RE: 200LX compatibility with MS Word


Hi Tony,

The great thing is that you do not even need to import it to Word
95/97/2000. Double click the Word document you created on the
palmtop
using MS Word for DOS and you have on your desktop!

Regards,

Jorgen

> Jorgen
> Have you been able to import the files into Word 2000 directly?
> Cheers
> Tony.
>
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> Jorgen Wallgren
> Sent: Thursday, 30 November 2000 23:42
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: 200LX compatibility with MS Word
>
> Hi,
>
> I am running Microsoft Word 6.0 for DOS on my 200LX, so it's
easy
> to
> save the Word documents in the proper format on your desktop and
> then
> be able to open up the documents on the palmtop.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
> > Hello--  I'm inquiring about an extremely basic thing here.
I'm
> rather new
> > to the palmtop world, so please bear with me for asking you to
> go over what
> > is undoubtedly all too familiar territory...
> >
> > I use Microsoft Word 97 on my PC at work, and would like to
> transfer Word
> > documents back and forth between my PC and 200LX.  Right now
I'm
> just using
> > the 200LX's Memo program, which seems unable to handle the
> formatting
> > contained within Word 97.  Is there a particular word
processing
> program
> > and/or method that I should utilize to ensure compatibility?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your attention and assistance.
> >
> > Nathan Olsen
> > nolsen@rockey-portland.com
> >
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Hi Everyone
Just bought a leather case for the HP200LX from the One Stop
Palmtop Shop.  Ordered it last week and got it this morning here
in Christchurch New Zealand!!!  Space for additional PC cards and
a pen.  Too big and intrusive to wear on a belt (not the case's
fault).  Outstanding service, fits like a glove.  I highly
recommend them.
HTH somebody.
Cheers
Tony.



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Hello,

Over the past couple of days I have had leisure to connect my
USR V.90 External modem to the 200LX and perform a number of
very simple test. I performed the same tests on the PCMCIA
modem I purchased from Thaddeus, which is a V.90 low powered
modem they sell.

The simple test were performed 10 times on each modem at
different times over the last two days. These test include
logging into the D&A Software site and downloading their home
page, downloading POST3.EXE from the alternate FTP site. and
downloading 19 email messages I kept on my ISP's POP3 server
for this purpose. I was able to keep the same messages on my
POP3 server by deleting the newer messages from the POP3 server
using the delete message in POST3 on any new messages that
arrived. All of the above tests were run on a 2X 200LX I
purchase from Thaddeus.

The test results are averages in time and are as follows:

DA Home Page   USR (1:22)   PCMCIA (1:06) <including GIFs>
POST3.EXE dl*  USR (2:32)   PCMCIA (2:12)
Email dl*      USR (1:26)   PCMCIA (2:01)

*dl (download)

I don't think it makes much of a difference between an external
modem and using a PCMCIA modem. The time differences are
marginal at best. Having an external modem will be useful for
users that have not upgraded their RAM in the 200LX.

(I would like to point out that I am not affiliated with
Thaddeus or D&A Software in any way other than being a very
satisfied customer.)

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> In a funny kind of way, with Word 2000 not supporting Word for DOS
> anymore,

WHAT?????

They just provided me a new computer at work.  And while they stuck with
win98 (thankfully), they indicated that it had Office2000!!! I rarely
fire up any of the Winword versions and stick stubbornly to Dos Word 5.5
(prior 5.0).  Will one of the old converters work?  I know you had to
'add' dos word support to the earlier versions.  Now where did I put
that darn conversion installation program???

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I have been using Quicken 98 for the last couple of years with Pocket
Quicken Connect 2.2 syncing my palmtop once a week.

I have now updated to Quicken 2001 and the Pocket Quicken Connect doesn't
work anymore.

Further, I cannot find anything on their website (Quicken's) that even
mentions Pocket Quicken Connect.

Has anyone gotten through this with a solution?

Tech support for Quicken looks likes its gonna be a hassle to get through.

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 >> any way to make avantgo work on the hp200lx?  anything similar out there
 >> that "grabs" www pages for later reading?
 >
 >I use sitescooper from www.sitescooper.cx which can grab
 >web pages and convert them to text or html for the LX, and
 >also several Palm formats. It takes a bit of work to set it
 >up but there is quite a variety of sites that it works
 >with, not just Avantgo sites.
 >
 >Mike Kopplin
 >

Mike,

I saw your above recent post in the alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp newsgroup.

I have checked up the http://www.sitescooper.cx site (soon to be
http://www.sitescooper.org/).  The blurb says:-
"Sitescooper automatically retrieves the stories from several news websites,
trims off extraneous HTML, and converts them into formats you can read
on your Palm computing device for later reading on-the-move. It maintains
a cache, and will avoid stories you've already read. It can handle 1-page
sites, 1-page with diffing, 2-level and 3-level sites, and it's very
easy to add a new site to its list. Even if you don't have a Palm handheld,
it's still handy for simple website-to-text conversion."

The Sitescooper download page mentions that a Perl script is needed to
process the 'scoops'.  They have ready made downloadable scripts for
Windows, MacOS, Unix and Linux, but advises that you must have the LWP Perl
module installed.  What is LWP?

Perhaps you can enlighten us on what you mean by "It takes a bit of work to
set it up", and whether Sitescooper is considered a good substitute for
Avantgo as far as the 200LX is concerned.

Also how does the software deal with multi-level sites when it is output as
text, since presumably there will be no hotlinks in text files.

I am interested in using Sitescooper on a Win9x PC, and copying the output
as text or HTML to the 200LX.

TIA.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Shephard" <timshephard@EARTHLINK.NET>
> I have now updated to Quicken 2001 and the Pocket Quicken Connect doesn't
> work anymore.

Once I upgraded to Quicken 99 I could no longer sync from pocket quicken to
the desktop...I was told by quicken that they longer supported pocket
quicken in any capacity.

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Tim,

This may not be what you are looking for.  I export from Quicken 2001 as
QIF files, and import each QIF file into the 200LX's Pocket Quicken under
separate file names.

My aim is to package the information in the LX for viewing purpose only,
and not to sync back and forth to the PC.  I do not use Pocket Quicken Connect.

Calling Quicken's Tech support can be expensive, as I understand they will
ask you for your credit card number before attending to your problem, and
charge you by the minute.  You can seek free help on Quicken in the
alt.comp.software.financial.quicken newsgroup.

At 09:00 PM 12/3/00 -0800, Tim Shephard wrote:
 >I have been using Quicken 98 for the last couple of years with Pocket
 >Quicken Connect 2.2 syncing my palmtop once a week.
 >
 >I have now updated to Quicken 2001 and the Pocket Quicken Connect doesn't
 >work anymore.
 >
 >Further, I cannot find anything on their website (Quicken's) that even
 >mentions Pocket Quicken Connect.
 >
 >Has anyone gotten through this with a solution?
 >
 >Tech support for Quicken looks likes its gonna be a hassle to get through.
 >
 >-Tim
 >tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
 >tims.phone@bigfoot.com
 >http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
 >eFax (508) 590-0302
 >

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At 10:05 PM 12/2/00 -0500, Gary F. Blemaster wrote:
 >Are there any English dictionaries that run with this software?
 >

Go to http://www.tucows.com and search for PocketDict under the category
PDA Windows CE.  Might be what you are looking for.

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At 11:38 AM 12/3/00 -0500, John Menard wrote:
 >
 >Has anyone heard of a program that would allow you to dial into your home
 >computer using your HP200lx and access files? I used to have a copy of PC
 >anywhere for dos (the old version under 1meg) that would allow me to dial
 >into my home computer and access files and run programs.
 >

If you search the DOS collection of http://www.simtel.net for 'anywhere',
you will find some PC Anywhere clone programs.   Though these programs
might work on the LX, I think your home computer will have to be DOS-based.

If you set up a Host mode of a BBS software on your home computer, you
might also be able to log in to transfer files, but you will probably not
be able to run programs remotely.

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Date:         Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:06:00 +0100
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Hi there,

my question is, how can I manage to get
the Hewlett Packard Backup Software (originally DOS)
running under Windows 2000?

Is it possible at all? Any experiences?

Thanks in advance

Dominik Roettsches

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>
> Hans Peter Staber wrote:
>
> > What would be the advantage of MODEM over LXCIC which I use at =
present
> > in SETCOM.BAT to determine modem hardware ?
>
> Let me summarize the utilities we have available for detecting
> communications hardware connected to either COM1 or COM2:
>
> PORT1.EXE by Andreas Garzotto
> -----------------------------
>  detects a modem at COM1
>
> COM_ID.SCR by Helmuth G=FCnther
> -----------------------------
>  detects a *SPECIFIC* modem at COM1
>
> MODEM.COM
> ---------
>  detects a modem at COM1 or COM2 (also PCMCIA)
>
> LXCIC.COM
> ---------
>  detects a PCMCIA card at COM2 (modem or ethernet)
>
> Depending on the communications hardware you use, your
> SETCOM.BAT should contain one or more of the utilities.
>
> For my needs MODEM.COM is sufficient, because I either use
> an external modem at COM1, or a PCMCIA modem at COM2 or
> a mobile phone via IR.

I'm using basically the same hardware. It means that MODEM combines
detection capabilities of LXCIC (=3DCOM2 modem OR PCMCIA) and PORT1
(=3DCOM1). Will try.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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I meet people with mobile phones either clipped to their belts or hanging from
their necks (like an ID Tag) so my palmtop on my belt is inconspicuous, besides
being practical.


Jimmy.
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Ken wrote:

I would not be caught dead wearing one on my belt.

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hi,

On 3 Dec 2000, at 17:47, Russel Brooks wrote:

> > By accident, I found the feature in 2.2g! Whilst reading the
> > mail (not from the mail list) you can type Ctrl-N and New
> > appears on the title bar and the blob is put back. Is this a
>
> It doesn't work for me.  (I've got v3 but still using 2.2g.)
>
I also find this little change in the message top bar, when pressing
Ctrl-n, but I do not know what it means or does. Maybe someone can
explain it?

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Hi,

> In a funny kind of way, with Word 2000 not supporting Word for DOS
> anymore, its becoming more convenient to start using Wordperfect
> for DOS!
> Cheers
> Tony.

Unless you have MS Word for DOS 6.0, since then you can save your
documents as 'Word for Windows 2' and then having no problems at all to
open up the document in Word 2000 and still keep the original
formatting (or at least the majority as far as I can see).


Regards,

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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
> Hi There,
>
> I just would like to check which is the latest version of FFDB by
> Brian McIlvaine and if I remember correctly, it was released with
> source code... Where can I find it?

The FFDB source from Brian McIlvain was checked-in at Sourceforge's
CVS server, the project pages can be found at

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdb/

There is no packaged version of the source yet, so please let me know
if you can't use the CVS repository and you need a tar or zip file.

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Teo Soon Bock wrote:
> ...
> The Sitescooper download page mentions that a Perl script is needed to
> process the 'scoops'.  They have ready made downloadable scripts for
> Windows, MacOS, Unix and Linux, but advises that you must have the LWP Perl
> module installed.  What is LWP?

LWP is the name for a group of Perl modules which can be used to
build various web roboters, converters and so on.

> Perhaps you can enlighten us on what you mean by "It takes a bit of work to
> set it up", and whether Sitescooper is considered a good substitute for
> Avantgo as far as the 200LX is concerned.

Most Avantgo sites I have seen use a format very similar to regular HTML
for collections of content pages, each collection has a root document
that describes it.  LWP based robots can easily be built to walk through
such sites.

> Also how does the software deal with multi-level sites when it is output as
> text, since presumably there will be no hotlinks in text files.

I do not use Sitescooper myself but from the description on the web
page I would assume that it implements a retrieval engine hat will
simply descend from the Avantgo root document to any page "below" the
base URL, ignoring any link leading "outside".  A conversion module
will the extract text and links from each page and store it into a
format most suitable for the given palmtop.  For the HP-LX it might
be useful to store a collection in GDB format.

> I am interested in using Sitescooper on a Win9x PC, and copying the output
> as text or HTML to the 200LX.

I do not use Windows but Perl, LWP and other Perl modules should run
just fine on Windows too.

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Thanks everyone again for their wonderful input to this subject.    It took
me some repeated, deep searching, but I did find a few web sites which claim
that many of the complaints about WindowsME and DOS are imaginary, as ME
still runs DOS, just not in real mode.   I don't know yet whether that's
akin to the problems found with running DOS under NT (anyone knows the
default hard disk format for ME?  I though NTFS was only for NT, but I found
some claims that ME can use either NTFS or FAT32.   I have not discoverd yet
whether ME supports FAT16).

Now, for my last question on this subject (hopefully):   I understand that
not all infrared ports are made alike.   How do I shop for one for my new ME
system which will still be compatible with my HPLX?  Any specific
recommendations?  (keeping in mind the system only has PCI and USB slots,
not ISA).

TIA

Domingo

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There's a version of the collins dictionary that runs under Windows CE. I
forget where it is but www.google.com can help.


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> Are there any English dictionaries that run with this software?
>
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> my question is, how can I manage to get
> the Hewlett Packard Backup Software (originally DOS)
> running under Windows 2000?
> Is it possible at all? Any experiences?


I don't know if it is possible...I have it running under Win98.

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I made a little converter for Quicken 99 Windows to Quicken 6 for DOS.
There isn't much to it, but I am sure it could serve as a basis to write a
converter to/from QW2001 to PQ.  It works on the .qif files and is in VB5.
You are welcome to the source if you want it.

Scott

Disclaimer: I am not a professional programmer, just a hobbyist.


>This may not be what you are looking for.  I export from Quicken 2001 as
>QIF files, and import each QIF file into the 200LX's Pocket Quicken under
>separate file names.

 >>I have been using Quicken 98 for the last couple of years with Pocket
 >>Quicken Connect 2.2 syncing my palmtop once a week.
 >>
 >>I have now updated to Quicken 2001 and the Pocket Quicken Connect doesn't
 >>work anymore.
 >>
 >>Has anyone gotten through this with a solution?

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Mack wrote:

> If the software doesn't use the serial port interrupt to receive data and
> did a polling operation instead then that probably explains the problem
> right there. You can't do that on the 200LX for high speed transfers. You
> have to use the interrupt method instead of polling.
>
> Cheers,
> Mack

Well...

   It would be interesting to see where that is documented.  It
may be time for me to buy the developer's kit.  But, I will see
if his software can be modified to support an interrupt based
version.  Note however, the last interrupt routine I wrote was
for a Z-80.  (For a serial port though.)

Steve

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Barry wrote:

> > The error is:
> >
> > "Not ready reading drive G
> > Abort, Retry, Fail?"
>
> It seems that I remember seeing the interrupt that's used when this
> message occurs.  Probably either in HelpPC or Ralf Brown's interrupt
> list.

It is (IIRC) the critical error handler interrupt Int 24h.

> If I'm right, you'll need a program that will intercept that
> interrupt and terminate with an error level.  It would also have to
> have some way to know to terminate if that error didn't occur.

And, be prepared for any other action that can trigger that
interrupt.

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> I bought a 40MB ATA Flash Card from Magic Ram
> a few years ago.  It works in the HPLX flawlessley
> and I have been trying to get it to work in my IBM
> ThinkPad 600, running Windows 98, unsuccessfully

IBM ships some kind of software with their Thinkpads to deal with
obscure PC cards.  Or they did in the Win95 days.  I don't remember
seeing it on my newer Thinkpad.  I can't recall it's name now.

Anyway, my first Thinkpad (365XD) wouldn't read my 10 meg Epson
(SunDisk) and I called IBM support.  He asked me what cards I would
be using and when I said just that and a modem he suggested removing
their fancy PC card stuff.  I did and everything worked perfectly.

Anyway, if you can find something that loads when you boot windows
that sounds like it might be what I'm talking about, try removing
it.  If you can't find it, call IBM service.  In my experience with
them, they're amazingly good.  The only time one couldn't help me he
found someone who could and then transferred me.  Then an hour later
he called me back to make sure my problem had been solved.  It had
been.

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<<<<<I simply cannot change the I/O; I get a dialog box telling me
"This resource
setting cannot be modified."  This leads me to believe that the
wrong driver
is being used.  However, since SanDisk was SunDisk in a former
life...>>>>>

I just read that list of instructions your url pointed to.  I've
never had to fool with anything like that.  Once I removed the IBM
card support stuff from my original Thinkpad it recognized the card
all by itself.

I've had 2 Thinkpads since then and they've both recognized the card
the first time I inserted it.

I have an old 10 meg Epson (made by SunDisk) PCMCIA and several
Sandisk compact flash cards with adapters and all work perfectly on
the Thinkpad just as it comes from the factory.

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Word 5.5 for DOS allows you to save in RTF format (with a supplied
converter), which can be read by Word 2000. Word 5.5 can read Word 2000 RTF
files, with one strange character, which can be deleted, at the end of the
file.

One nice thing about Word 5.5 is that it you can get a _free_legal_copy_
from the Microsoft website, as was pointed out in an earlier post. It does
come with a British English dictionary, though.

You can do a minimal install of 5.5, with the dictionary, in under 1MB.

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Hi Juergen,

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 09:29:27 +0100, Juergen Korthof <info@EU-VORTEILE.DE> wrote:

> exist f:\anydir\anyfile.doc
> if errorlevel 1 goto notready
> :okay

Where is the difference to the DOS-internal

if exist f:\anydir\anyfile.doc goto ready
:notready
echo Drive not ready or file doesn't exist
:ready
echo Everything OK!

feature?

GTX
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Hi,
I bought a compact-flash to pcmcia
adapter(http://www.eagletec.com/flashmem.html) for my 200lx and a 32mb
compactflash memory(http://www.kingmax.com.tw/product/newpro1.html) and
plugged into the pcmcia slot but it doesn't work.It works fine in a windows
ce device, Does anyone know how do I get it work in my 200lx??
Thanks :)
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I've got same problem.  Hope there's a work-around.
Bill

In a message dated 12/4/00 12:15:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
timshephard@EARTHLINK.NET writes:

<<  have been using Quicken 98 for the last couple of years with Pocket
 Quicken Connect 2.2 syncing my palmtop once a week.

 I have now updated to Quicken 2001 and the Pocket Quicken Connect doesn't
 work anymore. >>

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<<
I bought a compact-flash to pcmcia
adapter(http://www.eagletec.com/flashmem.html) for my 200lx and a 32mb
compactflash memory(http://www.kingmax.com.tw/product/newpro1.html) and
plugged into the pcmcia slot but it doesn't work.It works fine in a windows
ce device, Does anyone know how do I get it work in my 200lx??
>>

It would help to know what messages you get when you put it in the 200LX.

It might not be formatted, or you might need to prepare it using
d:/bin/fdisk100.exe

There's nothing inherent in the combination otherwise that should prevent it
from working ... but we all know that most just do work and some just don't.

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Is it a 3.3 volt card? The 200LX can only use 5 and 12 volt.


At 12:22 AM 12/5/00 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi,
>I bought a compact-flash to pcmcia
>adapter(http://www.eagletec.com/flashmem.html) for my 200lx and a 32mb
>compactflash memory(http://www.kingmax.com.tw/product/newpro1.html) and
>plugged into the pcmcia slot but it doesn't work.It works fine in a windows
>ce device, Does anyone know how do I get it work in my 200lx??
>Thanks :)
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Hoi,

04.12.2000, 18:25, Werner Furlan wrote:

> I also find this little change in the message top bar, when pressing
> Ctrl-n, but I do not know what it means or does. Maybe someone can
> explain it=3F

in the main view (where you see all your mailboxes and folders) there is a
column which shows - in case there are unread (here: =3Dnew) messages in a
folder or mailbox - these new messages.

I normally read messages and reply immediately. When I don't do that, I
mark such a message as unread again which forces me to look into that
mailbox again.

Bye
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
Subject:      Re: avantgo or similar for hp200lx?
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> > module installed.  What is LWP?
>
> LWP is the name for a group of Perl modules which can be used to
> build various web roboters, converters and so on.

What Gerhard said...

> > Perhaps you can enlighten us on what you mean by "It takes a bit of work to
> > set it up", and whether Sitescooper is considered a good substitute for
> > Avantgo as far as the 200LX is concerned.
>
> Most Avantgo sites I have seen use a format very similar to regular HTML
> for collections of content pages, each collection has a root document
> that describes it.  LWP based robots can easily be built to walk through
> such sites.

I haven't tried Avantgo, but as far as I know there is no client that
would work with the LX. The Avantgo clients work with the sync software
for Palms and HPC's from what I've read.

Most of the difficulty in setting it up was getting Perl and the
LWP installed and running on my Win box. It would have been easier under
Linux, but I also use sitescooper with my Palm (which syncs with the Win
box). If I recall, something got misconfigured when installing one of the
components, and I had lots of problems, until I deleted it all and started
fresh.

> > Also how does the software deal with multi-level sites when it is output as
> > text, since presumably there will be no hotlinks in text files.

In a text file, the stories are dumped in whole one after the other. HTML
output is probably better for the LX. There are two modes for this. One,
each story is a file, and the other, all the stories are in one file, with
a table of contents of links at the top. I prefer the latter. Sitescooper
can also run the output through an external program, so it could, as
Gerhard suggested, output .gdb files if someone wrote the software.

> > I am interested in using Sitescooper on a Win9x PC, and copying the output
> > as text or HTML to the 200LX.

Before you spend the time setting it up, I would look on the Sitescooper
site at the list of site files. It won't really work with just any
website, there has to be a consistant layout to the pages, so that it
knows what to grab and what to ignore. Read the documentation about how it
works and you'll understand.

Regards,
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Date:         Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:51:01 -0500
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How well does Word run in grwaphics mode on the palmtop? Can the fonts
be changed? How does it compare to WP 5.1?

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Date:         Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:16:43 +0100
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Hi Daniel,

> Hi Juergen,
>
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 09:29:27 +0100, Juergen Korthof <info@EU-VORTEILE.DE> wrote:
>
> > exist f:\anydir\anyfile.doc
> > if errorlevel 1 goto notready
> > :okay
>
> Where is the difference to the DOS-internal
>
> if exist f:\anydir\anyfile.doc goto ready
> :notready
> echo Drive not ready or file doesn't exist
> :ready
> echo Everything OK!
>
> feature?
>

The difference is whether your batchfile will hang with a DOS-error, if your DRIVE
is not ready

(for example: network not ready, driver not loaded, disk not inserted...)

normally dos will hang, waiting to answer for this:
Not ready reading drive ..
abort, retry, error?      ... until a user reacts.

My utility intercepts this, and gives an errorlevel 1, if open failed.
This way your batchfile can react without useraction required.

Happy LXing!
Juergen.

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I have a 95LX, so I can't comment directly to all of your questions. I have
tried Word, and find it works OK. I think WordPerfect is probably a better
program, however, if you have/can get a copy. It is what I plan to use.

Word is a larger program, and I don't like that it has a pseudo-window frame
(which eats up the already scant space on the 95LX screen). WordPerfect (I
have LetterPerfect) has the advantage of being more keyboard-based. If you
turn off the menu, it takes only one screen line for the status line. It
also allows you to see the formatting codes, which is a big advantage over
Word.

You can go between Word 5.5 and WinWord using the RTF format; WinWord can
Open and SaveAs WP for DOS 5.x/6.x formats directly. Neither will be able to
handle the embedded objects that you can put in WinWord.

In part it comes down to what you have -- you can download Word 5.5 free,
while I know of no abandonware sites that have WordPerfect. If you can find
WP at a thrift shop, Corel has printer drivers and video drivers on its
download site (the software is still supported to some extent).

WP was a good program, but WP Corp lost out to Micro$oft because they were
slow getting out a good Windows version and because MS was able to bundle
WinWord with new computers.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Musielewicz mailto:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:51 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Word 5.5


How well does Word run in grwaphics mode on the palmtop? Can the fonts
be changed? How does it compare to WP 5.1?

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Werner Furlan wrote:
> On 3 Dec 2000, at 17:47, Russel Brooks wrote:
> > It doesn't work for me.

Oops, I was using it wrong.  If I do ctrl-N from inside an email it
changes back to 'New'.  Neat!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Krauss" <Bk361kb@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Pocket Quicken Connect
>  I have now updated to Quicken 2001 and the Pocket Quicken Connect doesn't
>  work anymore. >>

Try exporting from Pocket Quicken and then importing into Quicken.  There is
no way to get pocket quicken to sync with desktop quicken directly.

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Looks like they are only supporting the Palm OS now.

http://www.landware.com/pocketquicken/index.html

I called quicken and they directed me to this site.

-Tim


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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 12:50 PM
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Krauss" <Bk361kb@AOL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Pocket Quicken Connect
> >  I have now updated to Quicken 2001 and the Pocket Quicken Connect
doesn't
> >  work anymore. >>
>
> Try exporting from Pocket Quicken and then importing into Quicken.  There
is
> no way to get pocket quicken to sync with desktop quicken directly.
>
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> Looks like they are only supporting the Palm OS now.
> http://www.landware.com/pocketquicken/index.html
> I called quicken and they directed me to this site.

Well, at least that shows *some* sense.  The notion of a
Pocket Connect -type program really makes excellent sense
with this genre of financial tracking software.  I was just
flabbergasted when I learned that they were dropping the
whole product line.

-Chris

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Could you tell me how do I take my name off of the 200 LX mailing list?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Musielewicz" <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
> Is it a 3.3 volt card? The 200LX can only use 5 and 12 volt.

Huh?   I never heard of that before!   When I first purchased my HP200LX,
I used a 3.3 volt SRAM card with no problems.

> At 12:22 AM 12/5/00 +0800, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >I bought a compact-flash to pcmcia
> >adapter(http://www.eagletec.com/flashmem.html) for my 200lx and a 32mb
> >compactflash memory(http://www.kingmax.com.tw/product/newpro1.html) and
> >plugged into the pcmcia slot but it doesn't work.It works fine in a
windows
> >ce device, Does anyone know how do I get it work in my 200lx??
> >Thanks :)

You could try reformatting the card on the hplx, after using fixdisk100 on
it just to
be sure.   That approach solved a problem I was having using my card on a
TrgPro Palm and my hplx.

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--- Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET> wrote:
>
http://www.individual.com/network/msnbc/story.shtml?story=v1201183.1xi&level3=462
>

New Tiny HP Desktop PC on Show in Shanghai

SHANGHAI (Dec. 1) XINHUA via NewsEdge Corporation -
Hewlett-Packard (HP), one of the largest international
computer manufacturers, unveiled a new, small personal
computer in the city Friday.

The tiny personal computer, dubbed as "e-pc," is roughly
the size of a dictionary, or one-fourth the size of the
average desktop computer and weighs 3.8 kg, but has all the
functions of the latter.

Much BIGGER than a LX Weighs as much as the old
luggables....

Compared with conventional personal computers, the e-pc
works consumes less power and costs less in maintenance,
according to an official from the China HP Co., Ltd.

A HP factory in the Jinqiao Processing Zone in Shanghai has
began assembling the product, the HP official said.

yor pal al...............



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Nope.  Its just an ultra small form factor desktop like the Compaq IPAQs and
the IBM thang with the TFT screen.
HTH
Tony.
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3.8 kg!!!! Last I checked it  was 8.38 lbs - not what I want to put in my
pocket!.  Size touted to be that of a dictionary, "or one-fourth the size
of the average desktop computer" ...   Really! Would you put a dictionary
in your pocket?


At 12/4/00 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>
><http://www.individual.com/network/msnbc/story.shtml?story=v1201183.1xi&level3=462>http://www.individual.com/network/msnbc/story.shtml?story=v1201183.1xi&level3=462
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Date:         Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:54:50 +0800
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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At 07:18 PM 12/4/00 -0500, BERYLO@AOL.COM wrote:
>Could you tell me how do I take my name off of the 200 LX mailing list?

Hi,

You can unsubscribe yourself from the mailing list by sending an email to

LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU , and type in the body of your message

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Did anyone else place a last-minute order for WWW/LX V3 with
http://www.dasoft.com ?

I'm assuming they had a rush of orders, which is why I haven't heard
back from them.

A Meshar wrote:
>
> Dear Fellow Palmtoppers:   Since November 11th, we had a terrific run! We
> offered a 50% discount on WWW/LX purchases to the first 100 orders, and the
> community responded enthusiastically. In fact it was a bit wild :-)
> !!!  But the end of the offer has come. The offer ends at midnight Sunday,
> December 3, 2000. Orders with the 50% discount price cannot be accepted,
> sorry.

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Jeff,

Are you looking for something like this?
---------------------
<HTML><META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh" CONTENT="0;
              URL=http://www.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/program.cgi">
              <HEAD><TITLE>Now Loading...</TITLE>
              <BODY>
Loading Our Webmail Program ...
</BODY>
----------------------
When above is the content of index.html located in the root directory of
your domain web site, it will direct the user's browser to cgi-bin
subdirectory and run program.cgi.

James


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Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 2:45 AM
Subject: HTML To Redirect Page?


> Does anyone know the HTML required to automatically redirect a web page?
>
> Jeff
>
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> Hi,
>
> > In a funny kind of way, with Word 2000 not supporting Word for DOS
> > anymore, its becoming more convenient to start using Wordperfect
> > for DOS!
> > Cheers
> > Tony.
>
> Unless you have MS Word for DOS 6.0, since then you can save your
> documents as 'Word for Windows 2' and then having no problems at all to
> open up the document in Word 2000 and still keep the original
> formatting (or at least the majority as far as I can see).


I seem to be back in business with Word 5.5 for dos (on the HP) and
Word2000.  When I got to work today I tried opening a 5.5 doc.  And got
an error but a "wizard" came up.  It suggested I needed something on the
cd for conversion as the "format" was not supported.  After getting the
cd from IS staff, it opened the 5.5 doc.  I forgot to check if I can
save as 5.5.  But as long as I can save as plain or dos text, it should
be okay.

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> How well does Word run in grwaphics mode on the palmtop? Can the fonts
> be changed? How does it compare to WP 5.1?

I have not tried graphics in a while but it could show bold, underline,
strikeout (I think), italics and even double underline.  BUT, if I
recall, it does not show roman, courier, etc, specific type appearance
in its graphic mode.

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              Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Can't Word for DOS be reduced to almost nothing on screen as well?
That is, the ruler, the ribbon, the status bar and the message bar
can all be hidden away thus getting the same minimalistic effect
as Wordperfect.
Cheers
Tony.

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Subject: Re: Word 5.5


I have a 95LX, so I can't comment directly to all of your
questions. I have
tried Word, and find it works OK. I think WordPerfect is probably
a better
program, however, if you have/can get a copy. It is what I plan to
use.

Word is a larger program, and I don't like that it has a
pseudo-window frame
(which eats up the already scant space on the 95LX screen).
WordPerfect (I
have LetterPerfect) has the advantage of being more
keyboard-based. If you
turn off the menu, it takes only one screen line for the status
line. It
also allows you to see the formatting codes, which is a big
advantage over
Word.

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Date:         Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:08:02 +0800
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Subject:      Re: avantgo or similar for hp200lx?
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Thanks, Mike and Gerhard, for your inputs.

I had checked out Sitescooper installation for Windows
<http://sitescooper.org/doc/windows_install.html>, and it looks daunting
indeed.

I think for Win9x users, it is easier to use an offline browser.  I had
used Grab-a-Site
<http://www.bluesquirrel.com/products/grabasite/grabasite.html> a few years
ago before I signed up for cable modem service, and find that I could
literally grab a site for offline reading with a browser.  The
self-contained directory, in html and with graphics and images turned off,
for each site can be copied over to the LX for reading on the
move.  Installation and operation is a breeze.

For those who are interested, just go to http://www.tucows.com and search
the software library for 'offline browser' under the Win95/98
category.  There are several freeware, adware and shareware to choose from.

At 10:43 AM 12/4/00 -0700, Mike Kopplin wrote:
 >
 >> > Perhaps you can enlighten us on what you mean by "It takes a bit of
work to
 >> > set it up", and whether Sitescooper is considered a good substitute for
 >> > Avantgo as far as the 200LX is concerned.
 >
 >I haven't tried Avantgo, but as far as I know there is no client that
 >would work with the LX. The Avantgo clients work with the sync software
 >for Palms and HPC's from what I've read.
 >
 >Most of the difficulty in setting it up was getting Perl and the
 >LWP installed and running on my Win box. It would have been easier under
 >Linux, but I also use sitescooper with my Palm (which syncs with the Win
 >box). If I recall, something got misconfigured when installing one of the
 >components, and I had lots of problems, until I deleted it all and started
 >fresh.
 >
 >> > Also how does the software deal with multi-level sites when it is
output as
 >> > text, since presumably there will be no hotlinks in text files.
 >
 >In a text file, the stories are dumped in whole one after the other. HTML
 >output is probably better for the LX. There are two modes for this. One,
 >each story is a file, and the other, all the stories are in one file, with
 >a table of contents of links at the top. I prefer the latter. Sitescooper
 >can also run the output through an external program, so it could, as
 >Gerhard suggested, output .gdb files if someone wrote the software.
 >
 >> > I am interested in using Sitescooper on a Win9x PC, and copying the
output
 >> > as text or HTML to the 200LX.
 >
 >Before you spend the time setting it up, I would look on the Sitescooper
 >site at the list of site files. It won't really work with just any
 >website, there has to be a consistant layout to the pages, so that it
 >knows what to grab and what to ignore. Read the documentation about how it
 >works and you'll understand.
 >

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From:         Stuart Gray <srtgray@CLARA.CO.UK>
Subject:      FS: 1 Mb ss 200LX

For sale on ebay.co.uk

Single speed 1 Mb 200LX, includes PC connection cable, adaptor to turn
HP serial port into standard 9-pin, unterminated HP serial lead (to
attach to whatever connector you wish).  Boxed, with manual.  120 ukp.
includes p+p within UK, overseas I will negotiate.

ebay ref:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1200637087

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Date:         Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:17:23 +0100
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John,

> How well does Word run in grwaphics mode on the palmtop? Can the fonts
> be changed? How does it compare to WP 5.1?

I am running both on my hp200lx. If we would like to compare it to WP
5.1 i would suggest to compare it to WP 5.1+ which provides a full
graphical for the hp200lx CGA screen. WP5.1+ is not full WYSIWYG, but
offers a lot more than Word 5.5 does, e.g.  132 characters per line and
number of lines on the screen. Font can be changed in both, but they
are not diplayed differently by Word 5.5.; WP 5.1+ does display it.
Both display attributes like bold, italic, underline.

Wordprocessing differences is a different story.

Kind regards

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Date:         Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:53:38 +0800
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>From: Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: TECH:Compact flash
>Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 20:49:51 -0500
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Musielewicz" <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
> > Is it a 3.3 volt card? The 200LX can only use 5 and 12 volt.
>
>Huh?   I never heard of that before!   When I first purchased my HP200LX,
>I used a 3.3 volt SRAM card with no problems.
>
> > At 12:22 AM 12/5/00 +0800, you wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >I bought a compact-flash to pcmcia
> > >adapter(http://www.eagletec.com/flashmem.html) for my 200lx and a 32mb
> > >compactflash memory(http://www.kingmax.com.tw/product/newpro1.html) and
> > >plugged into the pcmcia slot but it doesn't work.It works fine in a
>windows
> > >ce device, Does anyone know how do I get it work in my 200lx??
> > >Thanks :)
>
>You could try reformatting the card on the hplx, after using fixdisk100 on
>it just to
>be sure.   That approach solved a problem I was having using my card on a
>TrgPro Palm and my hplx.
>
>Domingo
>
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It can ONLY read what files is in the card, but it cannot read a file or
write a new(or overwriting the) file.
When I try to format it, it said that the format is not supported

fdisk100
Error getting hard disk parameters.    :(
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Musielewicz" <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
> > Is it a 3.3 volt card? The 200LX can only use 5 and 12 volt.
>
> Huh?   I never heard of that before!   When I first purchased my HP200LX,
> I used a 3.3 volt SRAM card with no problems.

It was probably a dual 5/3 volt. How can a 3 volt card work when
the HP doesn't supply the right voltage. It even says in the developers
guide 5 or 12 volt. If you do use a 3 volt card and it did work you,
in the very least, have good chance of damaging the card through
overvoltage!!!!!!!

John

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>From: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,              John
>Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: TECH:Compact flash
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:03:02 -0500
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Musielewicz" <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
> > > Is it a 3.3 volt card? The 200LX can only use 5 and 12 volt.
> >
> > Huh?   I never heard of that before!   When I first purchased my
>HP200LX,
> > I used a 3.3 volt SRAM card with no problems.
>
>It was probably a dual 5/3 volt. How can a 3 volt card work when
>the HP doesn't supply the right voltage. It even says in the developers
>guide 5 or 12 volt. If you do use a 3 volt card and it did work you,
>in the very least, have good chance of damaging the card through
>overvoltage!!!!!!!
>
>John
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From:         Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
Subject:      Re: Palmtop uses a 16450 UART
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>    It would be interesting to see where that is documented.  It
> may be time for me to buy the developer's kit.  But, I will see
> if his software can be modified to support an interrupt based
> version.  Note however, the last interrupt routine I wrote was
> for a Z-80.  (For a serial port though.)

A good source for a serial interrupt routine would be the Newton Keyboard
driver which includes the source. There is a serial program out there that
lets you control the palmtop from a PC, but it used a polling method that
ran during the timer interrupt and it actually changed the timer interrupt
to run at the serial port speed. That method doesn't work very well for
higher speeds on the palmtop.

When I wrote the keyboard drivers for the keyboards Thaddeus sells I used a
serial interrupt which works wonderfully if you don't try to do too much
work during the interrupt.

Cheers,
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Date:         Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:47:03 -0700
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Gary,

Yes, I placed also placed a last-minute order, but haven't heard anything back from them yet.

Dale Batson

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Jacek mailto:gary-jacek@HOME.COM
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:26 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: End of 50% Discount Offer on WWW/LX

Did anyone else place a last-minute order for WWW/LX V3 with
http://www.dasoft.com ?

I'm assuming they had a rush of orders, which is why I haven't heard
back from them.

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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> How well does Word run in graphics mode on the palmtop? Can the fonts
> be changed? How does it compare to WP 5.1?
>
Word 5.5 in graphic mode runs quite well on my 2MB single-speed 200LX. I
launch it from the App Manager (I used to launch it from X-Finder until I
switched to a more memory-intensive version) and it leaves enough RAM to
open reasonably big docs *and* spell-check them.

(One warning: when running, Word 5.5 seems to disable the auto power-off.
You can turn the palmtop off manually by hitting "off" twice.)

Word 5.5 won't display different fonts or sizes, but it will display
different styles, including bold, underline, italic, strikethrough, small
caps, double underline, superscript and subscript.

WP 5.1 doesn't offer graphical display of font styles (well, you can set
them to show in reverse, etc.). It takes slightly longer to load, but
generally runs faster than Word. If you are familiar with the WP keystrokes
WP 5.1 is probably a better choice, but I am not, so I prefer Word.

BTW, both Word97/Win95 and MacWord98 will Open and Save As Word 5.5 files.

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Date:         Tue, 5 Dec 2000 23:10:31 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Does anyone know of any DOS tools that will report a file's CRC?
Preferably a 32bit CRC and it should be reported some way that it can be
called from another program; an environment variable would be nice.
Something like:

@echo off
CRC d:\path\fn.ext
echo The CRC is %crc%

I do my 200LX (single speed) backup via serial cable to my desktop and
it can take a long time to copy 20Meg of files.  If I could compare a
file's CRC with a previous value I could make some assumptions about
identical files and skip the slow copy.

You're probably asking why I don't rely on the "A"ttribute bit and use
Xcopy with the "/M" switch.  The reason is because I use a Move tool
that does directory renames and doesn't turn on the "A" bit if it wasn't
already on in the source file.  Because of this I can't always rely on
the absence of an "A" bit meaning nothing's changed.

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              "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" <imardem@HOTMAIL.COM>
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>
>Date:    Mon, 4 Dec 2000 20:07:42 +0800
>From:    Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
>Subject: Re: 200LX compatibility with MS Word
>
>Hi,
>
> > In a funny kind of way, with Word 2000 not supporting Word for DOS
> > anymore, its becoming more convenient to start using Wordperfect
> > for DOS!
> > Cheers
> > Tony.
>
>Unless you have MS Word for DOS 6.0, since then you can save your
>documents as 'Word for Windows 2' and then having no problems at all to
>open up the document in Word 2000 and still keep the original
>formatting (or at least the majority as far as I can see).
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Jorgen

Hi,

You can make Word 2000 compatible with Word for DOS 5.5 by downloading teh
following patch at Microsoft4s site.

http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/2000/downloadDetails/convpack.htm

cheers,


Inigo


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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 01:51:32 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Russel Brooks wrote:

> Does anyone know of any DOS tools that will report a file's CRC?
> Preferably a 32bit CRC and it should be reported some way that it can be
> called from another program; an environment variable would be nice.
> Something like:

You can find a free 16-bit (in the sense of the processor it requires)
32-bit CRC program, called simply "chksum", here:

http://www.highfiber.com/~raster/freeware.htm

It doesn't convert the value into an environment variable, but with the
aid of an external program and a batch-file it could be achieved.
Personally, I'd probably make a CRC of all the files (the program can
recurse directories) on both the primary and backup machine, compare those
files using a small utility of some kind (UNIX Awk + an Awk script should
do nicely) and then generate a list of altered files from that. If you're
not a programmer, you might not want to do that ;-)

Which program are you using for transferring the files?


Cheers,

Laust

(Simtel has a lot of checksum programs too, one of them might be better
suited)

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 01:09:28 +0000
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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> Which program are you using for transferring the files?

LX LapLink <--> Cpack is the connection I use.

Currently I'm reading ALL the LX files in a directory via PKZIP running
on the desktop and then saving the Zip on the desktop.  If I can
identify which individual files need copying  then I'll probably use
COPY or XCOPY on a single files.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 5 Dec 2000 20:32:38 -0500
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My name's Jim Hromek and I'm new to this list and just want to say HI! and
HELP!!
At the present time *I* have a 2meg 200lx and my 14 yr. old son has my old
95lx and I find myself in need of a e-mail program for my 200lx, preferably
small and with access to a pop3/smtp server. I'm willing to learn and not
afraid of dos (even thought I totally clueless on how to use it). I have
popmail, Pegasus mail and lxpop but I really need help on setup and packet
drivers can anyone post what their setup parameters and programs choices
are? I'll be needing a modem so any and all suggestions will be
appreciated!!
I did see a program that will allow me to view mail with cc:mail is this
hard to setup? and what other programs are needed?(packet drivers, modem
configs, tcp/IP and dialers)
Is Goin' Postal freeware yet?
Is WWW/LX worth it? is it easy to use and config?
Thanks for the time!

Jim Hromek
HP200lx 2meg and an HP95lx son
af3962@wayne.edu

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Date:         Tue, 5 Dec 2000 18:52:09 -0700
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Subject:      Re: avantgo or similar for hp200lx?
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> Thanks, Mike and Gerhard, for your inputs.
>
> I had checked out Sitescooper installation for Windows
> <http://sitescooper.org/doc/windows_install.html>, and it looks daunting
> indeed.

Don't let me discourage you so easily. I think the rewards are worth the
effort. After configuring sitescooper with the sites i was interested in
all I have to do is click a shortcut on my desktop. Sitescooper goes out
and "snarfs" everything with no further input. I have it grab the local
weather, several news sites, and a number of linux and technology sites.

And you're not limited to the sites they have listed. It should be fairly
easy to write a site file for the PalmtopPapers Whats New page (but I
haven't gotten around to trying yet).

The best feature though is that content you've already read is not
downloaded again. All you get are the new stories.

For my Palm it is so easy. Just click the link to run sitescooper, then
hit the sync button to put it on the Palm. For the LX, it takes another
step or two to transfer the files. If you had a card reader on your PC
though, I guess you could have Sitescooper write directly to it, then just
pop it in the LX.

Regards,
Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 10:37:41 +0800
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At 06:52 PM 12/5/00 -0700, Mike Kopplin wrote:
 >>
 >> I had checked out Sitescooper installation for Windows
 >> <http://sitescooper.org/doc/windows_install.html>, and it looks daunting
 >> indeed.
 >
 >Don't let me discourage you so easily. I think the rewards are worth the
 >effort. After configuring sitescooper with the sites i was interested in
 >all I have to do is click a shortcut on my desktop. Sitescooper goes out
 >and "snarfs" everything with no further input. I have it grab the local
 >weather, several news sites, and a number of linux and technology sites.
 >

Well, I have tried Grab-a-Site again, and whilst it worked well for Win9x,
when I transferred the htm to the LX, I find that the linked documents are
not available internally, but have to connect to the Net.  On my Win98,
Grab-a-Site generates some .dbf and .cdx files to keep track and convert
the links to internal ones.

For Sitescooper, is it correct that we have to:-

(1) download and install the Perl interpreter APi522.exe (5.4mb).  I saw
that they also have ver 5.6.0 build 620 (9+mb).  Is ver 5.22 sufficient?

(2) download and install the script file sitescooper-full.zip (400kb).

Anything else ?   This is the first time that I am touching Perl.

 >
 >For my Palm it is so easy. Just click the link to run sitescooper, then
 >hit the sync button to put it on the Palm. For the LX, it takes another
 >step or two to transfer the files. If you had a card reader on your PC
 >though, I guess you could have Sitescooper write directly to it, then just
 >pop it in the LX.
 >

For your Palm, you could have used Avantgo.

TIA.

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> Well, I have tried Grab-a-Site again, and whilst it worked well for Win9x,
> when I transferred the htm to the LX, I find that the linked documents are
> not available internally, but have to connect to the Net.  On my Win98,
> Grab-a-Site generates some .dbf and .cdx files to keep track and convert
> the links to internal ones.
>
> For Sitescooper, is it correct that we have to:-
>
> (1) download and install the Perl interpreter APi522.exe (5.4mb).  I saw
> that they also have ver 5.6.0 build 620 (9+mb).  Is ver 5.22 sufficient?

5.22e is the version I have installed. If this is all you'll be doing with
perl, it should be sufficient.


> (2) download and install the script file sitescooper-full.zip (400kb).

Yes, the full version will have the LWP package.

> Anything else ?   This is the first time that I am touching Perl.

If you're not doing Palm formats that should be it, and I don't think
you even have to look at the perl code. After this it's just read through
the documentation and find what is relevant or useful. For example, I
believe the default filename for the output is a long string that includes
the date, but there is a way to specify the filename format. I don't
recall, and I'm not at work now. Something about templates though I
believe.

>  >For my Palm it is so easy. Just click the link to run sitescooper, then
>  >hit the sync button to put it on the Palm. For the LX, it takes another
>  >step or two to transfer the files. If you had a card reader on your PC
>  >though, I guess you could have Sitescooper write directly to it, then just
>  >pop it in the LX.
>  >
>
> For your Palm, you could have used Avantgo.

Yes, but then I would be limited to Avantgo sites. I also have read that
Avantgo is slow, and it only runs while you are syncing your Palm. There
are some sites that Sitescooper can't access, and some things that Avantgo
allows you to do, so one of these days I'll check it out. But for most of
what I'm interested in, sitescooper works better for me.

Regards,
Mike

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 00:06:29 -0500
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Haven't use 123 for a loooong time (just got an upgraded LX). If I remember
correctly, it is possible to set passwords in Lotus files. But how?
Alternatively, what is the most secure way to store sensitive information in my
palmtop?

Thanks,
Barnaby

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Date:         Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:51:44 -0800
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              Gary Jacek <gary-jacek@HOME.COM>
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Jim

Welcome to the world of the 200LX!

You just missed the boat for getting WWW/LX for $37.50US.
The price went back up to $79 on Sunday night.
http://www.dasoft.com/ is the place to find it.

The WWW/LX installed on my LX is 650K of files, not
including the email, etc that you'll be downloading.
That might be a little tight on a 2Meg LX.

A smaller alternative is NetTamer, which is fairly compact
and has the packet driver builtin.  My installation is
about 338K not including downloaded email, news, etc.

I bought a NetTamer license a few years ago, but can't use it now,
because
I have a Cable modem ISP, and they want about $20 extra per month
for POTS (Plain Old Telephone System) support.
(NetTamer does not provide an option for an external packet driver)

You can download NetTamer from http://www.nettamer.net/

NetTamer is almost fully functional in the unlicensed shareware mode,
and there is no time limit for trialing it.  But if you use it daily,
like I -used- to, that nagging thing called conscience will bring
you around to paying the $35US registration fee.

If you need help setting up NetTamer, send me an email.

I have a Megahertz CC3144 14.4 modem that works fine with my LX.

You might want to explore the option of increasing your onboard
memory by contacting Thaddeus. http://www.palmtoppaper.com/Store.htm
if memory gets tight.

Enjoy your LX.

...Gary

Jim Hromek wrote:
>
> My name's Jim Hromek and I'm new to this list and just want to say HI! and
> HELP!!
> At the present time *I* have a 2meg 200lx and my 14 yr. old son has my old
> 95lx and I find myself in need of a e-mail program for my 200lx, preferably
> small and with access to a pop3/smtp server.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:02:23 +0800
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Here is the tip from Palmtop paper:
"Lotus 1-2-3 on all three Palmtops has its own password protection for
individual files. When saving a Lotus spreadsheet that you want to password
protect, enter the filename followed by a blank space and the letter P. Then
press (ENTER) and Lotus will ask you to enter and then verify a password.
From then on, you wont be able to load this spreadsheet without the
password. For this reason, it is important to write down your password
somewhere or use one you wont forget."

Roger


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> Haven't use 123 for a loooong time (just got an upgraded LX). If I
remember
> correctly, it is possible to set passwords in Lotus files. But how?
> Alternatively, what is the most secure way to store sensitive information
in my
> palmtop?
>
> Thanks,
> Barnaby
>
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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 08:49:21 +0100
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I will put a plug for Going Postal: I have found it simple to setup, small
and extremely reliable. It is not freeware yet,but you could download a free
evaluation copy.
The only thing I miss in GP is an IrDa connection, everything else is there:
attachments, lan, pgp...
I have no experience with the other mail prgms

Etienne

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 16:33:28 +0800
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At 08:36 PM 12/5/00 -0700, Mike Kopplin wrote:
 >>
 >> (1) download and install the Perl interpreter APi522.exe (5.4mb).  I saw
 >> that they also have ver 5.6.0 build 620 (9+mb).  Is ver 5.22 sufficient?
 >
 >5.22e is the version I have installed. If this is all you'll be doing with
 >perl, it should be sufficient.
 >

I have installed ver 5.22 of ActivePerl.

 >
 >> (2) download and install the script file sitescooper-full.zip (400kb).
 >
 >Yes, the full version will have the LWP package.
 >

The size of the full version is 635kb zipped, and not 400kb as mentioned in
the Sitescooper site.

 >believe the default filename for the output is a long string that includes
 >the date, but there is a way to specify the filename format. I don't

I have managed to scoop using the URL, one batch file for each site.  Have
not learnt to build site files yet.

And yes, the very long file name for the resultant html is
irritating.  Will have to find a way to shorten it to 8.3 DOS format to
suit the LX.

Thanks for your guidance.  Sitescooper is great, and free too.

Now, if I could get hold of some bold fonts for HV that are larger than 15
points.  Somehow cannot use Fn-Zoom to enlarge the fonts on the HV screen.

ps.  For the What's New in PalmTop Paper, you can try with the following
command line:-
Perl sitescooper.pl -html -levels 3 -storyurl
'http://www.palmtoppaper.com/whatsnew.htm/.*\.html'
http://www.palmtoppaper.com/whatsnew.htm

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I think I may have found something to replace the HP200lx with
http://pdafrance.com/
the unit includes a phone too
http://www.pdafrance.com/cgi-bin/pdanews/mailnews.cgi?newsid976020133,589
10

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Jim Hromek writes:
> My name's Jim Hromek and I'm new to this list and just want to say HI! and
> HELP!!

Welcome aboard.  I think you'll like this bunch.


> ...I find myself in need of a e-mail program for my 200lx, preferably
> small and with access to a pop3/smtp server. I'm willing to learn and not
> afraid of dos...

If all you want is e-mail, Goin' Postal is a good way to go.  If you
are also interested in Usenet news, LXTCP/PNR is freeware that works
very nicely.  It can be a bit complicated to set up, but I have a set
of instructions I would be glad to e-mail you.

Ted

--
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> My name's Jim Hromek and I'm new to this list and just want to say HI! and
> HELP!!
> At the present time *I* have a 2meg 200lx and my 14 yr. old son has my old
> 95lx and I find myself in need of a e-mail program for my 200lx,
preferably
> small and with access to a pop3/smtp server. I'm willing to learn and not
> afraid of dos (even thought I totally clueless on how to use it).
> I have> popmail, Pegasus mail and lxpop but I really need help on setup
and packet
> drivers can anyone post what their setup parameters and programs choices
> are? I'll be needing a modem so any and all suggestions will be
> appreciated!!

You may want to also take a look at nettamer. It's kinda kludgey but
functional. It bypassses the need for packets drivers, etc. It's a self
contained application that dials into an ISP and provides POP/SMTP. usenet,
ftp, ping, http (verrrry limited), timesync and some other stuff I can't
remember. It's pretty easy to set up. I used it for a long time and it
filled my needs nicely.

The other programs tend to be more slick than NT but are a bit more complex
to set up. The best application is www/lx. It's commercial but you get what
you pay for. The good part is that you can try all of these choices and
stick with the one you like best.


http://www.nettamer.net


As far as modem goes you have two choices: an external modem or a PCMCIA
modem.

External modems can be the 'pocket bettery powered' type that do not use the
palmtop's battery to run, they require you to have a cable. I use the
regular HP connectivity cable(~$20) coupled with a 9-pin gender changer
(~$5) and 9-pin null modem converter(~$5) I got from radio shack. You can
also sometimes find pocket modems on ebay. I've aquired several for <$30
each.

The more popular PCMCIA modem that works on the LX is the megahertz xjack
14.4 modem. You have to be careful which modem you choose as the LX has
strict power requirements. There are other modems that work better than the
megahertz as well.

BTW: I would also suggest the aquisisition of a flash ram card. They're
cheap enough now that it's almost silly not to get at least a 10 or 20 MB
card. I recommend a sandisk brand card. They can be found on this list or on
ebay. I find that ebay is a great place to find kewl old stuff.


ABTW: I have flash cards, external modems and internal modems collecting
dust on the shelf. If your interested, contact me privately and we can deal.


> I did see a program that will allow me to view mail with cc:mail is this
> hard to setup? and what other programs are needed?(packet drivers, modem
> configs, tcp/IP and dialers)
> Is Goin' Postal freeware yet?
> Is WWW/LX worth it? is it easy to use and config?
> Thanks for the time!

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 09:55:34 -0500
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              Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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It looks like that Linux palm device that Samsung was developing. It's
hardly a replacement for the LX. It probably has a low battery life, no
keyboard, no DOS. It looks nice but is very different.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Surfer Surfer" <surf.lx@JUNO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 3:52 AM
Subject: Found a replacement for a HP200LX ?


> I think I may have found something to replace the HP200lx with
> http://pdafrance.com/
> the unit includes a phone too
> http://www.pdafrance.com/cgi-bin/pdanews/mailnews.cgi?newsid976020133,589
> 10
>
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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 16:08:51 +0100
Reply-To:     Etienne Lemaire <stelem@attglobal.net>
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From:         Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@PANDORA.BE>
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I just tried GP on my desktop, (This is unsupported, but possible.)
Alas, no success yet
-When I try to connect via a phone connection,GP tells me "I can't seem to
talk to the modem", although all other applications have no problem.

-Trying to connect via my cable connection, something flashes on the screen,
then "Configuring BOOTP/DHCP" a long wait, and "Bootp/DHCP failed"

Anyone has a solution, clue, or hint?

TIA

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 10:11:50 -0600
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Ed Padin wrote:

> External modems can be the 'pocket bettery powered' type that do not use the
> palmtop's battery to run, they require you to have a cable. I use the
> regular HP connectivity cable(~$20) coupled with a 9-pin gender changer
> (~$5) and 9-pin null modem converter(~$5) I got from radio shack. You can
> also sometimes find pocket modems on ebay. I've aquired several for <$30
> each.

Note too that some wireless phones (e.g., the StarTac ST7868W) can, in
conjunction with an additional data cable, be used as external modems.
Definitely cool to grab e-mail without a physical landline connection.

Ted

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All,

I'm in need of a freeware utility to move files from NT to unix (any of aix,
solaris, hpux)  << without losing the date and time stamp of the file >>.

FTP and WSFTP (6.02) both stamp the resulting unix files with the date/time of
download.

Alternatively, I can try to create a tar file on NT, but don't know of a utility
(I have Winzip, but it only reads tar files .... it doesn't write them).

Does any unix person in the group have a utility to recommend that transfers
files from NT to unix while preserving the date/time stamp ... or know of a
freeware NT archival utility that will create a tar file (and preserve the file
date/time)?

"Hands-on" recommendations would be much appreciated.  Thanks.

Apologies to members who are registered on both lists (OB and LX) for the dual
post.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:37:45 -0500
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              Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Subject:      dead lx
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Hello!

I went to use my 32mb ds lx and it was dead. Nothing happens when I push
"on". I tried fresh main batteries, nothing. I swapped the backup battery=

with a working unit, nothing. The backup battery showed low power on the
good unit, so I'm fairly certain the problem is a result of battery
problems.

I seem to recall reading that I should pull all batteries from the lx and=

let it sit for a while, then reinstall. Can anyone offer any insight?
Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:56:48 -0500
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              Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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Did you leave it recharging? I've found that the LX eventually has problems
when used as a battery charger. Heat kills chips.

Have you tried shift-ctrl-on to do a full reset?

The ultimate reset is to remove all batteries and let it sit for 24 hours. I
had to do that once to stop
the LX from running down batteries too fast. It definitely helped.

Hopefully, you won't need to send it to thaddeus, but, be happy they exist.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Salwasser" <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:37 AM
Subject: dead lx


Hello!

I went to use my 32mb ds lx and it was dead. Nothing happens when I push
"on". I tried fresh main batteries, nothing. I swapped the backup battery
with a working unit, nothing. The backup battery showed low power on the
good unit, so I'm fairly certain the problem is a result of battery
problems.

I seem to recall reading that I should pull all batteries from the lx and
let it sit for a while, then reinstall. Can anyone offer any insight?
Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:57:36 +0100
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From:         Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@PANDORA.BE>
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FWIW

Whjen I got mine back from Rundel (upgrade) the batteries where dead, and
changing the batteries didn't help. After a Ctrl shift on, it came back to
life.

Good luck

Etienne
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 5:37 PM
Subject: dead lx


Hello!

I went to use my 32mb ds lx and it was dead. Nothing happens when I push
"on". I tried fresh main batteries, nothing. I swapped the backup battery
with a working unit, nothing. The backup battery showed low power on the
good unit, so I'm fairly certain the problem is a result of battery
problems.

I seem to recall reading that I should pull all batteries from the lx and
let it sit for a while, then reinstall. Can anyone offer any insight?
Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:00:09 -0600
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Does anyone know of any DOS tools that
> will report a file's CRC? Preferably a 32bit
> CRC and it should be reported some way
> that it can be called from another program;
> an environment variable would be nice.

Have you considered using Pkzip to backup?  If you have room you can
create a zip file on the palmtop, transfer it (it'll be a much
faster transfer) and then on the PC, run pkunzip -t to check the CRC
created by pkzip.

If you don't have room to create the zip on the palmtop, you can use
one of the programs that lets you see the palmtop as a drive on your
pc, such as Interlnk or ds95/dcs95 or (I think) Laplink.  I haven't
used Laplink but I think that's how it works.  In any case you
already have it.

This lets you run pkzip from the pc and it'll pull the files from
the palmtop directly into the zip file on the pc.  I know ds95/dcs95
does a check on the data it transfers so you get a built in CRC
check.  I'm sure the others do the same thing.

I used ds95/dcs95 this way for years (on the 95lx, 100lx and 200lx)
before I got my desktop PCMCIA reader and I did have an occasional
failure and have to start over.  But I never got bad data.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 12:25:01 -0500
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              Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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Is anyone else getting duplicate messages from the list?

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:27:34 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: dead lx
Comments: To: Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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> I seem to recall reading that I should pull all batteries from the lx and
> let it sit for a while, then reinstall. Can anyone offer any insight?
> Thanks in advance.

You can also try pressing and HOLDING the ON button for a minute or more
which can help dissipate any capacitor (that use to be the advice when
you'd forget the darn internal secret password and you called HP Tech
support (when they really did have tech support)

Good luck.

Also replace ALL batteries with good new ones, including the coin cell.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:27:39 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Comments: To: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> I used ds95/dcs95 this way for years (on the 95lx, 100lx and 200lx)
> before I got my desktop PCMCIA reader and I did have an occasional
> failure and have to start over.  But I never got bad data.


I used to just love using that combination with pcopy which could sync
the hp with the destkop copy by deleting files from the desktop backup
copy that had been deleted from the hp.  All directories remained
matching (I would first make a copy of the desktop copy to another
directory on the desktop, having a backup's backup! (G))  But once I
moved to win95, I found that dcs95 combo did not work very reliably.
Transfers would just END.  Lots of restarts and I finally abandoned that
method.  It also allowed a c: drive backup which moving a flashcard does
not accomplish.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:34:10 -0800
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              Klaus Reinhardt <K.Rdt@TU-BERLIN.DE>
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Ed Padin wrote:
>
> Is anyone else getting duplicate messages from the list?
----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hi
Sometimes. Then only the one of the two 'replies'
to the group.
                K@Rdt
----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! -------------------

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 12:58:03 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Off topic: NT to unix file transfers
In-Reply-To:  <882569AD.005A6A3C.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> from "Longden Loo" at
              Dec 06, 2000 08:25:45 AM
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> I'm in need of a freeware utility to move files from NT to unix
> (any of aix, solaris, hpux)  << without losing the date and time
> stamp of the file >>.


Have you tried just plain pkzip?  I zip files routinely on my shell
account (a unix machine) and transfer them to my desktop with the
sz program.  At the desktop I just pkunzip them.  The unix shell
has a generic zip/unzip pair of utilities that appears to write/read
pkzip-compatible files just fine.

-Chris Lott


--

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3112 12th Ave S.W.                                   PHONE: 256-534-9067
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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:27:40 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
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Comments: To: omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org
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<<
> I'm in need of a freeware utility to move files from NT to unix
> (any of aix, solaris, hpux)  << without losing the date and time
> stamp of the file >>.


Have you tried just plain pkzip?  I zip files routinely on my shell
account (a unix machine) and transfer them to my desktop with the
sz program.  At the desktop I just pkunzip them.  The unix shell
has a generic zip/unzip pair of utilities that appears to write/read
pkzip-compatible files just fine.
>>

Thanks for this tip and all the others from the group(s).  Lots of good and
useful info.  The above zip/unzip wasn't on my HPUX machine, but I found it on
our AIX Solaris boxes and used it successfully ... and some of the NT tools
suggested have panned out well also.

You guys (and gals) have helped me more than once to justify getting this
traffic mingled in my work email.  Plus it helps to break up my day <g>.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:52:22 -0500
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              Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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For those of you looking for a pocket modem:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=514635987

Caveat Emptor!

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 20:18:18 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: New to list/HP200lx
Comments: To: Jim Hromek <af3962@WAYNE.EDU>
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Jim Hromek wrote:
> At the present time *I* have a 2meg 200lx and my 14 yr. old son has my old
> 95lx and I find myself in need of a e-mail program for my 200lx, preferably

Probably the smallest and cheapest solution is to use the builtin cc:Mail
and connect thru http://palmtop.com.  This will require long distance
phone charges unless you live near Sunnyvale, CA (USA) but each call
will only be a couple of minutes max.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 09:50:47 +1300
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              Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Occasionally.  Haven't seen  a pattern yet.
HTH.
Tony.

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Sent: Thursday, 7 December 2000 06:25
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Duplicate Messages


Is anyone else getting duplicate messages from the list?

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:56:23 -0500
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              Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Many thanks to Ed, Fred and Etienne for your help! d;-)

After replacing the main and backup batteries, I did a Ctrl-Shift-Power-O=
n.
The unit came to life. I then restored c: from my compact flash based
backup. Surprisingly, my f: drive was still there and did not need to be
restored.

Save yourself a headache, replace your backup battery today!

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Frequently! But not noticeably so at the moment

Richard



Ed Padin wrote:

> Is anyone else getting duplicate messages from the list?
>
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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:51:03 -0700
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              Don Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
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The new features in PE are really nice, so I though I'd try PIM as well.
Been fussing with it for a couple of days with no luck. Looked through the
archives and found that some people had similar problems but couldn't find
how they fixed them or if they did. Any comments would be appreciated.

Problem:
========
I've configured PE (ver 2.3) and PIM (ver 1.0e).
I open PE to EXAMPLES.PIM and add a task for today.
With the cursor on that line, I press CTRL-ENTER.

What happens:
=============
Inside SystemManager I get "Not enough memory to run external program".

In plain DOS with all TSRs REMmed out, the screen changes to a DOS prompt
and I see this line:

  a:\bin\paledit\pim\pim.exe -@ t new_task

Another line flashes underneath this one (can't read it) and I'm returned
to EXAMPLES.PIM in PE.

Clues:
======
I have a 2 Mb unit.

I can't run PICK.exe unless I start PE with all available memory. I used to
be able to run PICK under an older version of PE with less memory.

Questions:
==========
Is there a memory problem? I've tried tweaking pim.cfg but it didn't seem
to help.

Is anyone running PIM on a 2 Mb unit or are you using machines with more
memory?

Thanks,
Don


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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:37:01 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Comments:     RFC822 error: <W> Incorrect or incomplete address field found and
              ignored.
From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: DOS CRC tool?
Comments: To: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Barry wrote:
> > Does anyone know of any DOS tools that
> > will report a file's CRC? Preferably a 32bit

> Have you considered using Pkzip to backup?  If you have room you can
> create a zip file on the palmtop, transfer it (it'll be a much
> faster transfer) and then on the PC, run pkunzip -t to check the CRC
> created by pkzip.

Yes, I already do this. I run PKZIP on the desktop pulling files across
a laplink connection.  It takes a l-o-n-g time to transfer ALL the
files.

I want the CRC tool to help identify which files have changed since the
last backup so I only need transfer changed files.  (For other reasons I
cannot completely rely on the DOS "A"ttribute bit.)

Your idea of running zip on the LX and pushing the zips to the desktop
sounds good but the default laplink connection leaves the LX a server,
not a client.  Can this be reversed so I can run my backup from the LX
while the link is active?

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 16:58:47 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Duplicate Messages
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I know what you guys are thinking but I know about messages being CC'ed to
the list as well as the originator. I was seeing three or four of the same
message when it was not CC'ed. Mebbe it's a quirk between my POP server and
client?

L8R

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard E. McEvoy" <remce@GOFREE.INDIGO.IE>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: Duplicate Messages


> Frequently! But not noticeably so at the moment
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
>
> > Is anyone else getting duplicate messages from the list?
> >
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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:17:12 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: dead lx
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Tom Salwasser wrote:
> Save yourself a headache, replace your backup battery today!


...and every six months or oftener if your batteries have gotten low
forcing the LX to actually USE the backup for longer than a main battery
change.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 23:44:25 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      Re: Duplicate Messages
Comments: To: Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
In-Reply-To:  <LPBBKCBFJGGCANIABAKMAECHCKAA.tony.kan@clear.net.nz>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Tony Kan wrote:

> Occasionally.  Haven't seen  a pattern yet.

The only pattern I'm aware of is when people forget to remove a private
e-mail address from the To: field when replying, meaning the reply goes
both to the list and the private person directly. Some people are quite
guilty of doing this ;-)

I have on purpose (no, really!) kept your e-mail address in the To: field
when making this reply, so you should receive it twice.

I never receive duplicate messages that are not replies to my own posts.


Cheers,

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:27:29 -0500
Reply-To:     scotts@tovax.com
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Scott Schindler <scotts@TOVAX.COM>
Subject:      Re: ATA Flash Disk Problem
In-Reply-To:  <002101c05e08$b2bf3a80$9efc36d8@oemcomputer>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

<<<<<I simply cannot change the I/O; I get a dialog box telling me "This
resource setting cannot be modified.">>>>Scott>

>>I just read that list of instructions your url <<
http://www.magicram.com/memsupport.htm >> pointed to.  I've never had to
fool with anything like that.

Barry  <<

Apparently neither did I.  After reading your note I decided to clear out
everything I did and just insert the card.  Hot swapping it works just fine!
I have never before hot swapped anything but a RAID drive, that kind of
thing (hot swapping) just seems to go against the grain.

I do not know why it did not "just work" when I inserted it before I booted
the machine.  I have not tried it since I did the hot swap, and after a
while I suppose curiosity will get the better of me.  But for now I am in
business.

Thanks Barry!

Scott

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 01:13:05 0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, alchoma@IS.LT
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Algis Ch." <alchoma@IS.LT>
Subject:      Re: New to list/HP200lx
Comments: To: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jim Hromek wrote:
> At the present time *I* have a 2meg 200lx and my 14 yr. old son has my =
old
> 95lx and I find myself in need of a e-mail program for my 200lx, prefer=
ably

and then Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> added:

RB>Probably the smallest and cheapest solution is to use the builtin cc:M=
ail
RB>and connect thru http://palmtop.com.  This will require long distance
RB>phone charges unless you live near Sunnyvale, CA (USA) but each call
RB>will only be a couple of minutes max.

OK, and there is one more way to use cc:Mail. But in this case you need a
couple of extra programs: cclxpop for offline converting incomming & outg=
oing
to cc:Mail format, and lxmta with epppd drivers for dialing and SMTP/POP3=
 mail
exchange. Here are some problems with setuping configuration and environm=
ent
variables. I use it on my HP100LX even in God forgotten land Lithuania th=
rough
simple dialup connection to ISP and have NO UNFUNCTIONAL blue keys.


   Cheers !
  Algis          mailto:alchoma@is.lt
________________________________________________________________
This message was created on HP100LX palmtop using Lotus cc:Mail=A9

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 20:18:39 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Scott Moore/Zip Drive

To All List Members,

A little over a week ago, having responded to one of his ads,
I received a Zip drive from Scott Moore. It did not include the
promised power supply, and the faceplate was not fastened to
the drive. It had been sent to me in a simple padded envelope,
not in a box. I have been sending e-mail to Scott ever since,
with no response. He has my money order, and I have a nonworking
Zip drive with no power supply (I tried it with the power supply for my
good Zip drive--it lights up and I can insert and eject the
disk. The first time I tried it it would read some files, but
others would not load or did not appear in their directories. On
all subsequent tries the drive was NOT READY.)

Since I have not seen any of his ads since, I would assume perhaps
he is just going to disappear for good. I'm disappointed since this
is the first time I have been burned in something like 100 Internet
transactions, including eBay. I understand that he gave mostly good
service to list members, but that there were some other problems
with packaging.

I'm in digest mode on the list; if you have any comments and would
like a quick reply, please contact me via e-mail.

Thanks!

Mark Shields
  |\       _,,,---,,_
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 |,4-  ) )-,_..;\ (  `'-'
'---''(_/--'  `-'\_)
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"Whoever welcomes a child in My name welcomes Me," Jesus said.
"Whoever welcomes Me welcomes not Me but the One who sent Me."
  -Mark 9:37


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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:03:53 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Kheehua <hungkh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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From:         Kheehua <hungkh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

How do you use your ZIP drive with HP200LX? Interested to know.

What type of AC adapter are you looking for? I have seen some 110VAC type
here in Singapore selling around US$15. I think it is a rechareable NiMH
pack for portable use.  Our voltage is 240VAC.

Getting burned in internet transaction is unpreventable as it depends on the
honour system. I too bought something (a camera) from a fellow camera list
member and got a dud. Lost $180 on it. Repair cost would be US$200 - so it
is sitting on the shelf to remind me that not all list members can be
trusted. Then there are two occasions I sent money to ebay sellers but the
goods never come.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Shields" <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:18 AM
Subject: Scott Moore/Zip Drive


> To All List Members,
>
> A little over a week ago, having responded to one of his ads,
> I received a Zip drive from Scott Moore. It did not include the
> promised power supply, and the faceplate was not fastened to
> the drive. It had been sent to me in a simple padded envelope,
> not in a box. I have been sending e-mail to Scott ever since,
> with no response. He has my money order, and I have a nonworking
> Zip drive with no power supply (I tried it with the power supply for my
> good Zip drive--it lights up and I can insert and eject the
> disk. The first time I tried it it would read some files, but
> others would not load or did not appear in their directories. On
> all subsequent tries the drive was NOT READY.)
>
> Since I have not seen any of his ads since, I would assume perhaps
> he is just going to disappear for good. I'm disappointed since this
> is the first time I have been burned in something like 100 Internet
> transactions, including eBay. I understand that he gave mostly good
> service to list members, but that there were some other problems
> with packaging.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:25:30 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hello  To all list Members, I have answered Mark's email numerous times and
I sent him a valid  excellent working external Zip Drive. It seems like he
has a problem with the drive that I  sent him but this  drive checked out
just perfectly before I sent it to him. I have delt with people on our
group for almost 2 years now and have had nothing but excellent responses
and support for all of the people I have dealt with. I am sorry that Mark
has to respond to our group like this but in my heart I know I sent him a
good product and I stand by my products and I know his drive went out in
totally working condition. SOrry for the respoonse but Mark put me in this
position.   Thanks alot!   Scott

Mark Shields wrote:

> To All List Members,
>
> A little over a week ago, having responded to one of his ads,
> I received a Zip drive from Scott Moore. It did not include the
> promised power supply, and the faceplate was not fastened to
> the drive. It had been sent to me in a simple padded envelope,
> not in a box. I have been sending e-mail to Scott ever since,
> with no response. He has my money order, and I have a nonworking
> Zip drive with no power supply (I tried it with the power supply for my
> good Zip drive--it lights up and I can insert and eject the
> disk. The first time I tried it it would read some files, but
> others would not load or did not appear in their directories. On
> all subsequent tries the drive was NOT READY.)
>
> Since I have not seen any of his ads since, I would assume perhaps
> he is just going to disappear for good. I'm disappointed since this
> is the first time I have been burned in something like 100 Internet
> transactions, including eBay. I understand that he gave mostly good
> service to list members, but that there were some other problems
> with packaging.
>
> I'm in digest mode on the list; if you have any comments and would
> like a quick reply, please contact me via e-mail.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark Shields
>   |\       _,,,---,,_
>   /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_
>  |,4-  ) )-,_..;\ (  `'-'
> '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)
> beamsplitter@juno.com
> http://www.stmattpitt.org
> "Whoever welcomes a child in My name welcomes Me," Jesus said.
> "Whoever welcomes Me welcomes not Me but the One who sent Me."
>   -Mark 9:37
>
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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:32:32 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Patrick West <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Patrick West <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Infrared printing
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Folks,

Has anyone tried the Seiko DPU-3445 Infrared printer
<http://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=6810&pf%5Fid=MPK00009>
with the 200lx?

patrick

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:45:17 -0500
Reply-To:     RickRae@usa.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Rick Rae <RickRae@USA.NET>
Subject:      Non-HPLX: Re: HTML To Redirect Page?
In-Reply-To:  <000b01c05e77$444ba060$6401a8c0@ibm>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

The method James offered is right on the money and should work fine.  You
might want to avoid using a redirect time of zero, though.  That can easily
"trap" a surfer such that their back button won't work... as soon as they
go back to the redirect page, wham-bam, they're instantly returned to the
page they tried to go back *from*.  (It probably doesn't matter in this
case, but at least some search engines see instantaneous redirection as an
index-spamming technique and ban any site that does this, as well.)

Unless instant redirection is truly important, I'd suggest setting CONTENT
to 1, 2, 5, etc... this is the delay, in seconds, before loading the new
page.

For what it's worth, another way to redirect is with Javascript.  Here's a
code snippit that will perform a redirect; it would be placed in the first
page's <HEAD>:

---------------------

<script LANGUAGE="JavaScript"><!--CLOAK--
function Update()
{this.location="newpage.htm"};timeout=window.setTimeout("Update();", 1000);
//--DAGGER--></script>

---------------------

The above example will redirect in one second (the 1000 is delay time in
milliseconds).  There was some reason for using Javascript instead of the
meta tag, but I honestly don't remember what it was.  What I usually do is
use both, setting the meta redirect time a bit longer than the Javascript
time as a backup.

Hope this is of some help, or at least is informative.

Rick

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 12/4/2000 at 10:22 PM James Kim wrote:

>Jeff,
>
>Are you looking for something like this?
>---------------------
><HTML><META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh" CONTENT="0;
>              URL=http://www.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/program.cgi">
>              <HEAD><TITLE>Now Loading...</TITLE>
>              <BODY>
>Loading Our Webmail Program ...
></BODY>
>----------------------
>When above is the content of index.html located in the root directory of
>your domain web site, it will direct the user's browser to cgi-bin
>subdirectory and run program.cgi.
>
>James
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff" <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
>To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
>Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 2:45 AM
>Subject: HTML To Redirect Page?
>
>
>> Does anyone know the HTML required to automatically redirect a web page?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>              --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
>>              --  Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    --
>>              --   B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com     --
>>              --      Where are the missing ballots??      --
>>              --       http://www.MissingBallots.com       --
>>
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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:53:35 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Scott and Mark,

Could we possibly not have to be spectators to this?

We have no way to tell who tells the truth so it is unfair to use us to resolve
this dispute.

Thanks,

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott" <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive


> Hello  To all list Members, I have answered Mark's email numerous times and
> I sent him a valid  excellent working external Zip Drive. It seems like he
> has a problem with the drive that I  sent him but this  drive checked out
> just perfectly before I sent it to him. I have delt with people on our
> group for almost 2 years now and have had nothing but excellent responses
> and support for all of the people I have dealt with. I am sorry that Mark
> has to respond to our group like this but in my heart I know I sent him a
> good product and I stand by my products and I know his drive went out in
> totally working condition. SOrry for the respoonse but Mark put me in this
> position.   Thanks alot!   Scott
>
> Mark Shields wrote:
>
> > To All List Members,
> >
> > A little over a week ago, having responded to one of his ads,
> > I received a Zip drive from Scott Moore. It did not include the
> > promised power supply, and the faceplate was not fastened to
> > the drive. It had been sent to me in a simple padded envelope,
> > not in a box. I have been sending e-mail to Scott ever since,
> > with no response. He has my money order, and I have a nonworking
> > Zip drive with no power supply (I tried it with the power supply for my
> > good Zip drive--it lights up and I can insert and eject the
> > disk. The first time I tried it it would read some files, but
> > others would not load or did not appear in their directories. On
> > all subsequent tries the drive was NOT READY.)
> >
> > Since I have not seen any of his ads since, I would assume perhaps
> > he is just going to disappear for good. I'm disappointed since this
> > is the first time I have been burned in something like 100 Internet
> > transactions, including eBay. I understand that he gave mostly good
> > service to list members, but that there were some other problems
> > with packaging.
> >
> > I'm in digest mode on the list; if you have any comments and would
> > like a quick reply, please contact me via e-mail.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Mark Shields
> >   |\       _,,,---,,_
> >   /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_
> >  |,4-  ) )-,_..;\ (  `'-'
> > '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)
> > beamsplitter@juno.com
> > http://www.stmattpitt.org
> > "Whoever welcomes a child in My name welcomes Me," Jesus said.
> > "Whoever welcomes Me welcomes not Me but the One who sent Me."
> >   -Mark 9:37
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!
> > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!
> > Join Juno today!  For your FREE software, visit:
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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:24:56 -0800
Reply-To:     hobchi@juno.com
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

--- Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:
> Scott and Mark,
> Could we possibly not have to be spectators to this?
> We have no way to tell who tells the truth so it is
> unfair to use us to resolve
> this dispute.
>
Nothing wrong with these comms, If enough of
them come, we can discern who is telling the
truth.  Da truth will show its head..........
We doo wanna know who we deel with.
at least I doo.

yor pal al..............

=====
.
       o__
      _.>/)_
     (_) \(_)
Woman, that's warm...
  Semper Mobilus

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:32:03 -0800
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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It's the finger poiting I don't like.

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: "hobchi" <hobchi@yahoo.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Fryday"
<fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive


>
> --- Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:
> > Scott and Mark,
> > Could we possibly not have to be spectators to this?
> > We have no way to tell who tells the truth so it is
> > unfair to use us to resolve
> > this dispute.
> >
> Nothing wrong with these comms, If enough of
> them come, we can discern who is telling the
> truth.  Da truth will show its head..........
> We doo wanna know who we deel with.
> at least I doo.
>
> yor pal al..............
>
> =====
> .
>        o__
>       _.>/)_
>      (_) \(_)
> Woman, that's warm...
>   Semper Mobilus
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
> http://shopping.yahoo.com/
>

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:49:39 -0500
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Infrared printing
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick West" <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Infrared printing
> Has anyone tried the Seiko DPU-3445 Infrared printer
> <http://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=6810&pf%5Fid=MPK00009>
> with the 200lx?

Tried one infrared device about 2 years ago...was dissatisfied with how it
worked and returned it.  Have never tried an infrared device since on the
200lx.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:36:43 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: PC Anywhere and the 200LX

Hi Tao,

 >Has anyone heard of a program that would allow you to dial into your
home
 >computer using your HP200lx and access files? I used to have a copy of
PC
 >anywhere for dos (the old version under 1meg) that would allow me to
dial
 >into my home computer and access files and run programs.

 I used to run a DOS based BBS in a DOS window on a Windows system.  I
used to be able to dial in and, as sysop, access files and run DOS
programs remotely on my system from a DOS shell in that same window, but
it didn't allow remote mouse control.  I could only access and control
that DOS window if that window was the current window on the host
computer.

I didn't find any way to access any other windows.  I didn't find any
other way to launch or control Windows programs, either.  It did not
offer access to the desktop.

I just made sure that my home desktop computer would boot up so the
current window was running the DOS based BBS program.  That way, if I
wanted to, I could even log in with a remote laptop and remotely reboot
my home system with a simple DOS reboot utility, and then simply
reconnect.

I hope this answers any specific questions you might have.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:39:42 -0800
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Hey Al, I got it goin`... <g>

GOIN` POSTAL v5.0

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 20:43:38 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Dan Holiga <holiga@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         Dan Holiga <holiga@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Group:
I bought stuff from Scott 3 times, and he has been nothing but extremely
cordial
and impeccably honest...so where is the misunderstanding here?
 - Dan Holiga

Mark Shields wrote:

> To All List Members,
>
> A little over a week ago, having responded to one of his ads,
> I received a Zip drive from Scott Moore. It did not include the
> promised power supply, and the faceplate was not fastened to
> the drive. It had been sent to me in a simple padded envelope,
> not in a box. I have been sending e-mail to Scott ever since,
> with no response. He has my money order, and I have a nonworking
> Zip drive with no power supply (I tried it with the power supply for my
> good Zip drive--it lights up and I can insert and eject the
> disk. The first time I tried it it would read some files, but
> others would not load or did not appear in their directories. On
> all subsequent tries the drive was NOT READY.)
>
> Since I have not seen any of his ads since, I would assume perhaps
> he is just going to disappear for good. I'm disappointed since this
> is the first time I have been burned in something like 100 Internet
> transactions, including eBay. I understand that he gave mostly good
> service to list members, but that there were some other problems
> with packaging.
>
> I'm in digest mode on the list; if you have any comments and would
> like a quick reply, please contact me via e-mail.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark Shields
>   |\       _,,,---,,_
>   /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_
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> http://www.stmattpitt.org
> "Whoever welcomes a child in My name welcomes Me," Jesus said.
> "Whoever welcomes Me welcomes not Me but the One who sent Me."
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>
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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:04:16 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Gary Jacek <gary-jacek@HOME.COM>
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From:         Gary Jacek <gary-jacek@HOME.COM>
Organization: @Home Network
Subject:      Re: End of 50% Discount Offer on WWW/LX
Comments: To: dale.n.batson@LMCO.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Okay, I heard back from www.dasoft.com.  My registration email got
munged as I couldn't email direct from the LX--no dialup ISP to use.

I have sent in my order again copying the first.  I am -HOPING- they
will honor the 50% off 'cause I really was trying to get it in on time.

Dale Batson wrote:
>
> Gary,
>
> Yes, I placed also placed a last-minute order, but haven't heard anything back from them yet.
>
> Dale Batson

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:11:05 -0800
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Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "T. McCoy" <freeway@UIA.NET>
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On 12-06 19:32 PST, you wrote:

> It's the finger poiting I don't like.

Agreed.  However, as a once-in-a-while eBay seller, I gotta add my .02
worth.  When a sale goes bad, for whatever reason, it behooves the seller to
immediately respond with a money-back offer, especially if insurance {.85}
was not suggested prior to shipping.  In a case where insurance was
suggested but declined by the buyer, the buyer more than less "holds the
bag", but still the seller wants to be very careful in his negotiating the
refund or replacement.  I`ve done business twice with Scott, without any
problems.  I`d be inclined to offer a full refund {shipping included} were
it one of my transactions, and get on with life.

This msg composed/transmitted using GOIN` POSTAL


>
> Philippe
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hobchi" <hobchi@yahoo.com>
> To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Fryday"
> <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
>
>
>>
>> --- Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM> wrote:
>> > Scott and Mark,
>> > Could we possibly not have to be spectators to this?
>> > We have no way to tell who tells the truth so it is
>> > unfair to use us to resolve
>> > this dispute.
>> >
>> Nothing wrong with these comms, If enough of
>> them come, we can discern who is telling the
>> truth.  Da truth will show its head..........
>> We doo wanna know who we deel with.
>> at least I doo.
>>
>> yor pal al..............
>>
>> =====
>> .
>>        o__
>>       _.>/)_
>>      (_) \(_)
>> Woman, that's warm...
>>   Semper Mobilus
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
>> http://shopping.yahoo.com/
>>
>

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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:35:11 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM
Subject:      Re: End of 50% Discount Offer on WWW/LX
Comments: To: dale.n.batson@LMCO.COM
In-Reply-To:  <784F51866054D4118E8A00508BDF581A87D309@emss02m02.ems.lmco. com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Dale, there was a problem with your order, unfortunately. I wrote to you
about after I got the order, but so far no response from you...

   Avi

At 12/5/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Gary,
>
>Yes, I placed also placed a last-minute order, but haven't heard anything
>back from them yet.
>
>Dale Batson
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Jacek mailto:gary-jacek@HOME.COM
>Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:26 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject: Re: End of 50% Discount Offer on WWW/LX
>
>Did anyone else place a last-minute order for WWW/LX V3 with
>http://www.dasoft.com ?
>
>I'm assuming they had a rush of orders, which is why I haven't heard
>back from them.
>
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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:37:25 -0800
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From:         awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM
Subject:      Re: End of 50% Discount Offer on WWW/LX
Comments: To: Gary Jacek <gary-jacek@HOME.COM>
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Gary, The order you sent is unreadable here. I wrote to you two emails
about it, but somehow they don't seem to eh... click with you, you seem to
well, not read what I am telling you :-) ...  and so off we go in a circle
:) ...

All the best...

   Avi

At 12/4/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Did anyone else place a last-minute order for WWW/LX V3 with
>http://www.dasoft.com ?
>
>I'm assuming they had a rush of orders, which is why I haven't heard
>back from them.
>
>A Meshar wrote:
> >
> > Dear Fellow Palmtoppers:   Since November 11th, we had a terrific run! We
> > offered a 50% discount on WWW/LX purchases to the first 100 orders, and the
> > community responded enthusiastically. In fact it was a bit wild :-)
> > !!!  But the end of the offer has come. The offer ends at midnight Sunday,
> > December 3, 2000. Orders with the 50% discount price cannot be accepted,
> > sorry.
>
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Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:46:07 -0800
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Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM
Subject:      Re: End of 50% Discount Offer on WWW/LX
Comments: To: Gary Jacek <gary-jacek@HOME.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <3A2F1A50.43ED32E7@home.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Gary, The copy came in and it is AS UNREADABLE as the first! Why woyuld it
be different? You should send it with POST/LX since POST/LX encrypts it.

I will honor the date of course, but you will have to send something I can
read here... Can you fax the order and let's stop the nonsense? All the
repetitive emails really soak up more time than I have now. The instruction
on the order form are CLEAR: Send via Post/LX or fax. You can email too,
but I did not want to make it an option because of the openness of the
credit card info... I DID tell you quite specifically how to email. Instead
you sent the same unreadable stuff...

Please take a look at my email...

All the best!

   Avi



At 12/6/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Okay, I heard back from www.dasoft.com.  My registration email got
>munged as I couldn't email direct from the LX--no dialup ISP to use.
>
>I have sent in my order again copying the first.  I am -HOPING- they
>will honor the 50% off 'cause I really was trying to get it in on time.
>
>Dale Batson wrote:
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > Yes, I placed also placed a last-minute order, but haven't heard
> anything back from them yet.
> >
> > Dale Batson
>
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Date:         Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:29:11 +0200
Reply-To:     davidb@netmedia.net.il
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         David Becher <davidb@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Subject:      Re: Windows and HPLX/DOS: which one to get?

Domingo Diaz-V writes:
> I have not discoverd yet
> whether ME supports FAT16).

I have Win ME at home with my Hard Disk partitioned into 3 drives. Drive C is
FAT16 and drives D & E are FAT32, to take advantage of the larger size
capability (they are 3Gb each). If I boot with a DOS diskette I can still
read drive C.


----------------------------=-----------------------------
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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 05:22:49 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
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From:         Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
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I have dealt with Scott on several occasions and he has always=
 been helpful,
honest and genuinely concerned with my best interest. He isn't=
 making a fortune
selling old PCMCIA cards and used Zip drives, but he is offering=
 himself as a
reliable resource for items that enhance our use of the LX. I for=
 one would
like to thank him publicly and assure him he has my continued=
 support.
Bob

-- Bob Christopher, rbc@ezlink.com on 12/07/2000

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 09:55:26 -0300
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Suquet, Stephan" <ssuquet@APSF.COM.AR>
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From:         "Suquet, Stephan" <ssuquet@APSF.COM.AR>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Yep, I add myself to Scott=B4s fanclub !!!

Regards

St=E9phane SUQUET-LIZARRAGA
Planificaci=F3n Economico-Financiera
Aguas Provinciales de Santa Fe
Tel. 0341 420 67 13 / Fax. 0341 420 67 46

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De:   Bob Christopher SMTP:bc@CHISP.NET
> Enviado el:   Jueves 7 de Diciembre de 2000 9:23 AM
> Para: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Asunto:       Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
>=20
> I have dealt with Scott on several occasions and he has always been =
helpful,
> honest and genuinely concerned with my best interest. He isn't making =
a fortune
> selling old PCMCIA cards and used Zip drives, but he is offering =
himself as a
> reliable resource for items that enhance our use of the LX. I for one =
would
> like to thank him publicly and assure him he has my continued =
support.
> Bob
>=20
> -- Bob Christopher, rbc@ezlink.com on 12/07/2000
>=20
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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 08:27:25 -0500
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              Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
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Message text written by Mark Shields
>A little over a week ago, having responded to one of his ads,
I received a Zip drive from Scott Moore. It did not include the
promised power supply, and the faceplate was not fastened to
the drive. It had been sent to me in a simple padded envelope,
not in a box. I have been sending e-mail to Scott ever since,
with no response. He has my money order, and I have a nonworking
Zip drive with no power supply<

Sometimes the best price is not the best deal. A seller who accepts money=

orders only and never gives a refund is no bargain in my book.

Good luck Mark,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 07:25:45 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Tom Salwasser wrote:
>
> Sometimes the best price is not the best deal. A seller who accepts money
> orders only and never gives a refund is no bargain in my book.
>

You have not been in business. I take a chance every time I accept a personal
check. I may not eat the next day. It is a secure way for Scott to do business
without getting burned and he will eat the next day. One person who writes a
bogus check makes the seller ask sometimes, why am I in this business?

Just my $.02

Bob

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 09:42:04 -0500
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              Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Message text written by Robert K. Meyer
>You have not been in business. I take a chance every time I accept a
personal
check. I may not eat the next day. It is a secure way for Scott to do
business
without getting burned and he will eat the next day. One person who write=
s
a
bogus check makes the seller ask sometimes, why am I in this business?<

What abou refunds? If you're in business, refunds are a fact of life if y=
ou
want to be successful. It's just a cost of doing business. At least it is=

for me.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 06:55:02 -0800
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              "David B. Rogers" <dr7zyq@NIDLINK.COM>
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Ditto.

David, WA7ZYQ

"Suquet, Stephan" wrote:
>=20
> Yep, I add myself to Scott=B4s fanclub !!!
>=20
> Regards
>=20
> St=E9phane SUQUET-LIZARRAGA
> Planificaci=F3n Economico-Financiera
> Aguas Provinciales de Santa Fe
> Tel. 0341 420 67 13 / Fax. 0341 420 67 46
>=20
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De:   Bob Christopher SMTP:bc@CHISP.NET
> > Enviado el:   Jueves 7 de Diciembre de 2000 9:23 AM
> > Para: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Asunto:       Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
> >
> > I have dealt with Scott on several occasions and he has always been h=
elpful,
> > honest and genuinely concerned with my best interest. He isn't making=
 a fortune
> > selling old PCMCIA cards and used Zip drives, but he is offering hims=
elf as a
> > reliable resource for items that enhance our use of the LX. I for one=
 would
> > like to thank him publicly and assure him he has my continued support.
> > Bob
> >
> > -- Bob Christopher, rbc@ezlink.com on 12/07/2000
> >
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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:14:46 -0500
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              Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive

I'm sorry that the list has to read about this. I posted it
so that list members would know what was going on. I asked
Al Kind about it and he suggested I give Scott three days.
I gave him more.

I have not received ANY response from my e-mails to Scott
since I received the drive. The first I heard from him was
his response to the list.

If for any reason there was e-mail miscommunication, I apoligize.
However, I had no problems exchanging e-mail with Scott before
the drive arrived, and I have had no e-mail problems with anyone
else.

Here are two valid e-mail addresses; I'm using the first right now:

beamsplitter@juno.com
beam2@telerama.com

The drive may have worked when Scott sent it, but it arrived
nonworking, with the faceplate off and minus a power supply.
It was packed in a padded envelope only.

I don't want to post anything else to the list about this;
I'm not asking list members to settle it. I'm asking Scott
to e-mail me at either address above. If he doesn't, I will
tell the list that.

Mark Shields

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----- Original Message -----
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To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: DOS CRC tool?
>

> It also allowed a c: drive backup which
> moving a flashcard does not accomplish.

When I got my desktop flash reader I began using pkzip to make a
backup of C: on A: and then moving the card to the desktop to backup
A:.  This backs up everything.  It also leaves me a backup of C: on
A: that I have with me all the time in case I screw something up.
That's saved my smile a couple of times.  And if I need the room I
can always delete it.

Also the C: backup on A: can be updated instead of being re-created
each time, which makes it very fast.  (Na na na na, nan na)

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 09:54:41 -0600
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              TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Hello,

I'm trying to use a different email client and I need to test the setup. I
apologize for wasting bandwidth.

I hope this eliminates some mangled looking replies and double postings.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 09:52:16 -0600
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@pobox.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: DOS CRC tool?
>
> Your idea of running zip on the LX and pushing the zips to the
desktop
> sounds good but the default laplink connection leaves the LX a
server,
> not a client.  Can this be reversed so I can run my backup from
the LX
> while the link is active?

I haven't used Laplink myself so I can't help with that.

But I do suggest looking at the desktop PCMCIA readers.  I got mine
at Best Buy for $69.  I think they've gone down to $49 now.  They
install easily in either the parallel or USB port.  I got the USB
version but I've learned since then that the parallel ones are a
little faster.  But mine is pretty fast.

I also use it for my camera.  I've never had to install my camera
software because of it.

Barry

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 08:38:18 -0800
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              Gary Jacek <gary-jacek@HOME.COM>
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Avi

The problem is at my end.  I cannot use Post/LX as I have no ISP
connection from the palmtop at this time.

I will FAX the order instead.  Thanks for your patience.

...Gary

To the HPLX-L List:  Lets close the discussion here, shall we?


awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM wrote:
>
> Gary, The copy came in and it is AS UNREADABLE as the first! Why woyuld it
> be different? You should send it with POST/LX since POST/LX encrypts it.
>

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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Date:    Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:32:03 -0800
> From:    Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> Subject: Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
>
> It's the finger poiting I don't like.

I think everyone finds this sort of thing unpleasant.  I don't think
we expect this sort of problem on this list.  But I do agree that we
should know the outcome since Scott regularly does business with
listmembers and regularly solicits his business on the list.

I think the reason no-one has objected to that is that he's seemed
to be honest and the products he's offered are of interest to a lot
of list members.  Makes good sense to me.

But, if he's accused of cheating, we need to know it.  And if he did
cheat, we need to know that.  And if he didn't, we need to know
that.

While it's true that we'll never truly know unless one of them
concedes (unlikely) at least if it gets hashed out on this list we
can all make up our own minds.

So I think it's not only appropriate to discuss here, I think it's
important.  I haven't bought anything from Scott yet but I've come
close a couple of times.  He just hasn't had the right deal on the
right items yet.  But I keep watching and hoping he will.

To try to stir the pot a little, Scott claims to have sent a working
product but Mark claims to have received a non-working product.
Scott, does that mean if you send something and it arrives DOA,
we're on our own?  I seem to remember some dispute about that with a
bent card when you first started selling to list members.  I can't
remember how that was resolved.  Maybe it would be good if you
explained your policy about DOA items.

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:19:03 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Barnaby Ng <barnaby.ng@HOME.COM>
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From:         Barnaby Ng <barnaby.ng@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Lotus 123 Password
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No response from my last post, so here it goes again.

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X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
Message-ID: <3A2DC955.F5DDC8B8@home.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 00:06:29 -0500
From: Barnaby Ng <barnaby.ng@home.com>
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To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Lotus 123 Password
References: <D8020D6F0DB8D211B99A0008C7C59CFE086EC16D@cormails1.jdedwards.com>
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Haven't use 123 for a loooong time (just got an upgraded LX). If I remember
correctly, it is possible to set passwords in Lotus files. But how?
Alternatively, what is the most secure way to store sensitive information in my
palmtop?

Thanks,
Barnaby


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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:22:11 -0500
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              Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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I got a parallel port one offa ebay for $20-sumthin. The difficulty is in
finding one that supports PCMCIA. It seems that is yet enother technology
going to the dustbin (at least for flash cards) in favor compact flash and
those sony stick thingy's


----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: DOS CRC tool?


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@pobox.com>
> To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
> <barry@FBTC.NET>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: DOS CRC tool?
> >
> > Your idea of running zip on the LX and pushing the zips to the
> desktop
> > sounds good but the default laplink connection leaves the LX a
> server,
> > not a client.  Can this be reversed so I can run my backup from
> the LX
> > while the link is active?
>
> I haven't used Laplink myself so I can't help with that.
>
> But I do suggest looking at the desktop PCMCIA readers.  I got mine
> at Best Buy for $69.  I think they've gone down to $49 now.  They
> install easily in either the parallel or USB port.  I got the USB
> version but I've learned since then that the parallel ones are a
> little faster.  But mine is pretty fast.
>
> I also use it for my camera.  I've never had to install my camera
> software because of it.
>
> Barry
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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 18:30:56 +0100
Reply-To:     Etienne Lemaire <stelem@attglobal.net>
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From:         Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@PANDORA.BE>
Subject:      Re: Lotus 123 Password
Comments: To: Barnaby Ng <barnaby.ng@HOME.COM>
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Roger S. did reply with this:
"Lotus 1-2-3 on all three Palmtops has its own password protection for
individual files. When saving a Lotus spreadsheet that you want to password
protect, enter the filename followed by a blank space and the letter P. Then
press (ENTER) and Lotus will ask you to enter and then verify a password.
From then on, you wont be able to load this spreadsheet without the
password. For this reason, it is important to write down your password
somewhere or use one you wont forget."

HTH

Etienne
----- Original Message -----
From: Barnaby Ng <barnaby.ng@HOME.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 6:19 PM
Subject: Lotus 123 Password


> No response from my last post, so here it goes again.
>

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:12:07 -0500
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              Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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Actually, you did get a response from Roger-somebody

----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 12:19 PM
Subject: Lotus 123 Password


> No response from my last post, so here it goes again.
>

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:54:32 -0800
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Subject:      Re: End of 50% Discount Offer on WWW/LX
Comments: To: Gary Jacek <gary-jacek@HOME.COM>
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Hi Gary,

Yes, the problem is there on your side. I question why you want to buy it
so quickly if it does not work! How about you make it work first, then send
the order. I will honor the price you had originally. My preference is to
sell it to people who are happy and want it, not to have a customer who
spent the money on something that limps, maybe, or worse...

At 12/7/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Avi
>
>The problem is at my end.  I cannot use Post/LX as I have no ISP
>connection from the palmtop at this time.
>
>I will FAX the order instead.  Thanks for your patience.
>
>...Gary
>
>To the HPLX-L List:  Lets close the discussion here, shall we?
>
>
>awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM wrote:
> >
> > Gary, The copy came in and it is AS UNREADABLE as the first! Why woyuld it
> > be different? You should send it with POST/LX since POST/LX encrypts it.
> >
>
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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 20:13:22 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Don,

I'm running PIM/PE fine since 18 months now and I will try to help you.

First advice is to use the default PIM file names - look into the
pim.cfg and the pe.cfg which comes with the ZIP file. Do yourself a
favour and use the same directory names as well as long as you are not
comfortable with everything that sits in the cfg-files.

You seem to have a memory problem. Get MAXDOS.ZIP from the SUPER site
and call your PE editor from a batch file with the following lines :

c:\path\maxdos.com -l -e
maxdos c:\path\pe.exe
c:\path\maxdos.com -r

Report back about your progress.


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 14:27:19 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Robert Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM>
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From:         Robert Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
In-Reply-To:  <3A2F1579.92FE68A5@earthlink.net>

I too have purchase an item from Scott.  I did have a problem with the item,
but I discovered that it was from my own ignorance.  I had purchased some of
the ram he was offering at a very good price.  It came in a plain envelope,
that I wished had been in at least a padded envelope, or at least a box,
even if it was used.  I tried the ram is the old computer that I was hoping
to use it for, and found out it did not work.

I wrote Scott, and he told me that it worked when he sent it, and I could
either return it for a refund, or an exchange (I don't recall now which it
was).  Through my own procrastination I ended up not returning it, and it
sat on my computer bench in the basement for quite some time.  During
Microsoft MCSE training, I took a class to prepare me for the A+ exam (which
is for computer repair) and during that class I discover why the ram he sent
me did not work.

I was using the wrong type of ram, for the machine that I wanted to use it
in.  It was an old 486 machine, and the ram he sent me was for a Pentium
machine.  Since then I have used his ram, now installed in the proper type
of machine, so this story had a happy ending.

I don't mind at all hearing feedback on someone from this list that
frequently sells listmemebers something.  If all we hear is negative
feedback, then I certainly would not deal with the seller, no matter how
good the deal is.  But I have heard a lot of positive feedback from sales
from Scott, and am confident that he and the buyer will work out their
differences.

Just my 2 cents.

Best Regards,

Robert Hocking
Now A+, MCP, MCP & MCSE

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:31:13 -0800
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Yes, I agree we should know the outcome. It's obvious that Mark and Scott are having a hard time connecting (for what
reason I can't tell) so this (this list) is just another way to try to make some progress.

To stir things up furthers: I have noticed that Scott typically send his goods in borderline "not good enough" packaging.
Everyone I can remember dealing with him has mentioned the "padded envelope" and the same happened to me when I received my
2 flahs cards from him. As someone who normally send everything in ultra-safely packed boxes, I remember asking myself how
the cards could have possibly survived the trip. I think it's even more serious with a Zip drive since it contains moving
parts. A padded envelope is simply not enough for this type of product. Perhaps things go well enough on average that Scott
does not need to refund people's money too often, so he saves on shipping material. In any case, I would be delighted to
know what he does when something arrives DOA. So far, we're in the dark in that matter.

Thanks,

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <barry@FBTC.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive


> > Date:    Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:32:03 -0800
> > From:    Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> > Subject: Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
> >
> > It's the finger poiting I don't like.
>
> I think everyone finds this sort of thing unpleasant.  I don't think
> we expect this sort of problem on this list.  But I do agree that we
> should know the outcome since Scott regularly does business with
> listmembers and regularly solicits his business on the list.
>
> I think the reason no-one has objected to that is that he's seemed
> to be honest and the products he's offered are of interest to a lot
> of list members.  Makes good sense to me.
>
> But, if he's accused of cheating, we need to know it.  And if he did
> cheat, we need to know that.  And if he didn't, we need to know
> that.
>
> While it's true that we'll never truly know unless one of them
> concedes (unlikely) at least if it gets hashed out on this list we
> can all make up our own minds.
>
> So I think it's not only appropriate to discuss here, I think it's
> important.  I haven't bought anything from Scott yet but I've come
> close a couple of times.  He just hasn't had the right deal on the
> right items yet.  But I keep watching and hoping he will.
>
> To try to stir the pot a little, Scott claims to have sent a working
> product but Mark claims to have received a non-working product.
> Scott, does that mean if you send something and it arrives DOA,
> we're on our own?  I seem to remember some dispute about that with a
> bent card when you first started selling to list members.  I can't
> remember how that was resolved.  Maybe it would be good if you
> explained your policy about DOA items.
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 14:54:24 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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First of all I over 1,000 positive feedbacks on eBay. My eBay ID is
palmtopcop is anyone wants to verify that. I constantly have between 50-70
items listed and ship about 15 packages a day. Here is what I don't
understand about Scott.

Why not use 'free' Priority Mail packages and just charge the customer a
flat $3.20 charge. The boxes are sturdy and the USPS will deliver them for
free. I get them by the hundreds, literally. The USPS will even provide
shipping labels with your return address preprinted.

If you are going to do business (mail order) you need good supplies and
when, and if, there is a complaint you should bend over backwards to make
the situation correct.

I don't know if the Zip drive was in good shape when it left but if it was
mailed in a padded envelope I can, as an experienced shipper, tell you that
it will *not* arrive in good condition.

I am going to be listing a 32MB DS 200LX on eBay in the next couple of weeks
complete with every imaginable acessory. The unit was owned by a prominent,
previous list member and you better believe when I ship it I will not do so
in a padded envelope.

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:33:14 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: End of 50% Discount Offer on WWW/LX
Comments: To: Gary Jacek <gary-jacek@HOME.COM>
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Confirming  the fax arrival. Thank you.

At 12/7/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Avi
>
>The problem is at my end.  I cannot use Post/LX as I have no ISP
>connection from the palmtop at this time.
>
>I will FAX the order instead.  Thanks for your patience.
>
>...Gary
>
>To the HPLX-L List:  Lets close the discussion here, shall we?
>
>
>awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM wrote:
> >
> > Gary, The copy came in and it is AS UNREADABLE as the first! Why woyuld it
> > be different? You should send it with POST/LX since POST/LX encrypts it.
> >
>
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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:13:38 -0700
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              dale.n.batson@LMCO.COM
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Greetings Palmtoppers,

I recently downloaded "ico2bmp" from http://www.ghostlight.com/software/old_versions.html and "bmp2icn" from http://www.palmtop.net/super.html , thinking I'd be able to easily convert Windows icons into HPLX 'icn' format.

The first snag: bmp2icn complained that the 'bmp' files needed to be 44 x 32 pixels. As an experiment, I converted one of these 'bmp' files into the required size, using Canvas. Second snag: bmp2icn complained that the 'bmp' file needed to be monochrome. So, I went back to Canvas and converted the 'bmp' to gray-scale, then posterized it to 3 colors (black, gray and white), but bmp2icn still complained that the 'bmp' file needed to be monochrome. I was hoping this program could dither the middle gray color into a checkerboard pattern like I've seen done on some HPLX icons, but apparently it can't handle that.

Does anyone out there know of a technique for converting 'bmp' files into a decent black and white dither? Ideally, I like to have a tool which intelligently performs all the conversion in one step.  ; )

Thanks,
Dale Batson

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:15:32 -0500
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
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I would point out in this discussion...no matter which side is right, the
kind of packaging for the zip drive probably doesn't matter.  After shipping
many items for many years I have found that shipping carriers are
notoriuosly careless with packages.  If a package is marked fragile handle
with care...guess which package UPS or Fedex is going to use in their next
basketball game.  I have found all shipping companies are terrible at taking
care of packages, settling claims, and keeping track of packages.  Not
knowing either party in this dispute my first suspect in this dispute would
have to be the shipping carrier.  It would not surprise me to find out that
the drive left in perfect condition and that the missing parts disappeared
in transit.

If you look up sleazy in the dictionary you will see the logos for UPS,
Fedex, Roadway and many others.

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:56:06 -0800
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Which is why I like big boxes with lots of foam pellets :-)

Thanks,

Philippe

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From: "Ken" <KenLondon@beld.net>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Fryday"
<fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive


> I would point out in this discussion...no matter which side is right, the
> kind of packaging for the zip drive probably doesn't matter.  After shipping
> many items for many years I have found that shipping carriers are
> notoriuosly careless with packages.  If a package is marked fragile handle
> with care...guess which package UPS or Fedex is going to use in their next
> basketball game.  I have found all shipping companies are terrible at taking
> care of packages, settling claims, and keeping track of packages.  Not
> knowing either party in this dispute my first suspect in this dispute would
> have to be the shipping carrier.  It would not surprise me to find out that
> the drive left in perfect condition and that the missing parts disappeared
> in transit.
>
> If you look up sleazy in the dictionary you will see the logos for UPS,
> Fedex, Roadway and many others.
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 17:23:18 -0500
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              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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----- Original Message -----
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> Which is why I like big boxes with lots of foam pellets :-)

I have found that shipping carriers can destroy anything no matter how it is
packed.

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 16:23:15 -0800
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Folks, this is a new service from Metricom.  They extended the network to
support 128kbps service in various places. They are still officially
building the network in LA, but I have been using their fast modem for two
days now. It is fast. Clearly faster than the 56Kbps modems (and I just
tested for Hal in the last two days a sweet pocket modem!!! He has my
evaluation to do with as he sees fit!).  I get probably 50,000 baud on the
palmtop - but I really have not measured it!

All I did was connect the serial cable to the palmtop interface and plugged
it in the COM1. Then ran WWWSETUP.EXE, added a new ISP Setup (I get my GS
service through Wireless Webconnect), designated external modem, 57600
speed (and 115200 baud), the ATZ is fine, dialin is 3333, and put in the
proper DNS and alt DNS as well as my id and password. Used the same
Rico_Script that comes built-in with WWW/LX. And away we went!!

It was slightly more reliable at slower speed, but worked just as well at
115200. They use PAP (a variant of CHAP which is handles just as well by
the CHAP script - the basis of the Rico_Script.

This looks good!

FYI - anyone interested in this portable radio modem.

It is not cheap, BTW, but on the desktop you get nearly 128K baud - and
that is nothing to sneeze at in a radio communication.

Info at Metricom/Ricochet:  http://www.ricochet.com, and their Authorised
service providers (where you buy modem and get the account)  Wireless
WebConnect http://www.wwc.com and Juno Express at
http://www.junmoexpress.com/ricochet

Enjoy.

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 02:30:22 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: DOS CRC tool?
Comments: To: Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Barry wrote:
> But I do suggest looking at the desktop PCMCIA readers.  I got mine
> at Best Buy for $69.  I think they've gone down to $49 now.  They
> install easily in either the parallel or USB port.  I got the USB
> version but I've learned since then that the parallel ones are a
> little faster.  But mine is pretty fast.

Can the card readers be used on a DOS only desktop?
I don't do Win*.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 02:30:25 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      EnoughBT.Com measures main batteries
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A year or two back a list member named Luke (I think) gave out all his
LX software in a series of 19 Zip files totaling about 23 Meg.
(Before anyone asks, I do email on my LX with a 14.4 modem so I can't
send all the Zips to requesters, it would take forever.)

I'm finally getting around to looking into the 3700+ files to see what's
worth keeping and what is useless (to me).  One of the first useful
tools I've found is a small program called EnoughBT that accepts a
voltage in milivolts that sets Errorlevel to 0 or 1 based on whether the
main batteries measure greater ot less then that value.

If this sounds interesting to you send me an email OFF LIST asking for
EnoughBT and I'll reply with a small Zip file containing the Com file
and a Txt file.

If anyone is looking for anything obscure and you think it might be in
this mass of files I can also supply a list of all the files in all of
the Luke Zip files.  Just ask for the LUKELIST via email OFF LIST.
I may or may not still have any of these files if you ask for them
later.

More to come if I find anything interesting (to me).

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 23:45:17 -0500
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              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:30 PM
Subject: EnoughBT.Com measures main batteries


> A year or two back a list member named Luke (I think) gave out all his
> LX software in a series of 19 Zip files totaling about 23 Meg.
> (Before anyone asks, I do email on my LX with a 14.4 modem so I can't
> send all the Zips to requesters, it would take forever.)

How about putting those files in a site such as freedrive.com, where you
get 50megs of storage on the Web for free, and even allows you to share
those files with others without having to give your password?

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 23:52:37 -0500
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              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: DOS CRC tool?


> Barry wrote:
> > But I do suggest looking at the desktop PCMCIA readers.  I got mine
> > at Best Buy for $69.  I think they've gone down to $49 now.  They
> > install easily in either the parallel or USB port.  I got the USB
> > version but I've learned since then that the parallel ones are a
> > little faster.  But mine is pretty fast.
>
> Can the card readers be used on a DOS only desktop?
> I don't do Win*.

Well, if you have a newer system, I don't know whether the newer drives
support DOS.   If you have an older system, you could try Ebay for one
of the older drives that still use an ISA bus. That's what I currently have,
and it uses ONLY a DOS driver under Windows, which slows it down
considerably, but it is very fast with DOS alone).

HTH

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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 21:55:54 -0700
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              "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
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Depends if sold "as is". These days, win some, lose some. If a customer comes
back to me, I try to make it right -- and I usually take a loss, time & money.

Bob

Tom Salwasser wrote:
>
> What abou refunds? If you're in business, refunds are a fact of life if you
> want to be successful. It's just a cost of doing business. At least it is
> for me.
>

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 00:32:05 -0500
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              Andrew King <aking5@MEDIAONE.NET>
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I had a SCM swapbox in my desktop machine that did use DOS drivers.
It was an ISA card (so I made sure my new motherboard had one ISA slot)
Now it appears I should loook for a PCI card swap box.
Under WIN 95 the reader had trouble finding an interrupt (to be fair I
had maxed out all my interrupts) so I ended up using it with the DOS
drivers.

If anyone has a PCI swpabox and wants a ISA swapbox I'd be happy to
trade since the new desktop machine will be primarily a WIN machine.
Most of the DOS stuff is moving to a thinkpad 560x which already has
card slots.
I am hoping the thinkpad IR will talk to the palmtop, haven't tried it
yet.

On the subject of IR has anyone used the HP netbeam IR LAN adaptor with
WIN98?
I can get the Thinkpad to connect with the Accton PC card and the
Netbeam shows up on the thinkpad. I just can't find anything, I suspect
it's the network settings but not sure exactly what.
--
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Ann Arbor Michigan
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Subject: Re: DOS CRC tool?
   Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 23:52:37 -0500
   From:Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: DOS CRC tool?
> >Barry wrote:
> > But I do suggest looking at the desktop PCMCIA readers.  I got mine
> > at Best Buy for $69.  I think they've gone down to $49 now.  They
> > install easily in either the parallel or USB port.  I got the USB
> > version but I've learned since then that the parallel ones are a
> > little faster.  But mine is pretty fast.
>
> Can the card readers be used on a DOS only desktop?
> I don't do Win*.

Well, if you have a newer system, I don't know whether the newer drives
support DOS.   If you have an older system, you could try Ebay for one
of the older drives that still use an ISA bus. That's what I currently
have,
and it uses ONLY a DOS driver under Windows, which slows it down
considerably, but it is very fast with DOS alone).
HTH
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Date:         Thu, 7 Dec 2000 23:32:36 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Patrick West <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Patrick West <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Triangle area of North Carolina?
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Is anyone on the list in the The Triangle area of
North Carolina?

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 12:13:33 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
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A small, simple and free programme is PCREMOT2.COM which can be found on =
the
ZIFF-DAVIES internet site (no pointer handy right now but a search engine
will locate it).

 \/
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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 03:28:54 -0800
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From:         hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
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yesh, dats right.
Da buyer has one responsibilty
to pay in full as requested.
da seller should send a working product.
packaging counts.  it must arrive in working
order. Dats why dey send flash cards in
 refrigerator size bubble wrapped boxes.
 If it does not woik, there shd be a refund.
I think dey call dis a kontract.
yor pal al...............................

> > It's the finger poiting I don't like.
>
> I think everyone finds this sort of thing unpleasant.  I
> don't think
> we expect this sort of problem on this list.  But I do
> agree that we
> should know the outcome since Scott regularly does
> business with
> listmembers and regularly solicits his business on the
> list.
>
> I think the reason no-one has objected to that is that
> he's seemed
> to be honest and the products he's offered are of
> interest to a lot
> of list members.  Makes good sense to me.
>
> But, if he's accused of cheating, we need to know it.
> And if he did
> cheat, we need to know that.  And if he didn't, we need
> to know
> that.
>
> While it's true that we'll never truly know unless one of
> them
> concedes (unlikely) at least if it gets hashed out on
> this list we
> can all make up our own minds.
>
> So I think it's not only appropriate to discuss here, I
> think it's
> important.  I haven't bought anything from Scott yet but
> I've come
> close a couple of times.  He just hasn't had the right
> deal on the
> right items yet.  But I keep watching and hoping he will.
>
> To try to stir the pot a little, Scott claims to have
> sent a working
> product but Mark claims to have received a non-working
> product.
> Scott, does that mean if you send something and it
> arrives DOA,
> we're on our own?  I seem to remember some dispute about
> that with a
> bent card when you first started selling to list members.
>  I can't
> remember how that was resolved.  Maybe it would be good
> if you
> explained your policy about DOA items.
>
> Barry
>
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> Is anyone on the list in the The
Golden Triangle area of Thailand?
or Bangkok?

yor pal al...........


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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 06:29:58 -0600
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              TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Hello!

I've got a very nice Libretto 50CT for sale with 32mb memory, a portable
CD-ROM and an extra 4gb hard drive. Check it out at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1201270191

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 08:02:32 -0500
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From:         James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
Subject:      Re: PC Anywhere and the 200LX
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Sounds promising.  Wil it let you take over a windows desktop from the 200
LX like PcAnywhere does?  And while I'm asking, will PcAnywhere 4.5 for DOS
allow you to control a Windows desktop from the 200LX like later versions of
PcAnywhere do?
Jim

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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 6:14 AM
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Subject: Re: PC Anywhere and the 200LX


A small, simple and free programme is PCREMOT2.COM which can be found on the
ZIFF-DAVIES internet site (no pointer handy right now but a search engine
will locate it).

 \/
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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:07:29 -0500
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Triangle area of North Carolina?
Comments: To: Patrick West <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
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>>Is anyone on the list in the The Triangle area of
>>North Carolina?

I am in the Greensboro area

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:07:43 -0500
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF:OT:FS: Libretto 50CT For Sale
Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
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>>I've got a very nice Libretto 50CT for sale with 32mb memory, a portable
>>CD-ROM and an extra 4gb hard drive. Check it out at:

I have one of those collecting dust, it is disappointing to see you haven't
had a serious bid yet

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 08:47:29 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive

I think the discussion of this item has been pretty balanced, with
some extremes on both ends.

I did want to say that Scott's communication with me during
the intial transaction was courteous, pleasant, and responsive
to my needs. His shipping was prompt. Scott has now responded
to my messages. I replied to him, but nothing has been resolved
yet--the situation is the same. At some time I will post the
final results, if there are any.

FWIW, I have a positive feedback rating of 71 on eBay, and no
negatives (username beamsplitter@juno.com).

The only other thing I have to say right now is that there are
things in life that are more important to me than Zip drives.

Mark
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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 06:10:24 -0800
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              "David B. Rogers" <dr7zyq@NIDLINK.COM>
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From:         "David B. Rogers" <dr7zyq@NIDLINK.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF:OT:FS: Libretto 50CT For Sale -- NOT!!
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Tom,

Your Libretto isn't FS (For Sale) -- it is FA (For
Auction).  For those of us who filter, it is a big
difference.

Thanks,

David, WA7ZYQ

Tom Salwasser wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I've got a very nice Libretto 50CT for sale with 32mb memory, a portable
> CD-ROM and an extra 4gb hard drive. Check it out at:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1201270191
>
> Best Regards,
> Tom Salwasser
>
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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 08:29:30 -0600
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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From:         Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      Re: PC card reader, ISA vs PCI +Nwtbeam IR LAN questions
In-Reply-To:  <3A307255.50FC9B61@mediaone.net> from "Andrew King" at Dec 08,
              2000 12:32:05 AM
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> I had a SCM swapbox in my desktop machine that did use DOS drivers.
> It was an ISA card (so I made sure my new motherboard had one ISA slot)
> Now it appears I should loook for a PCI card swap box.
> Under WIN 95 the reader had trouble finding an interrupt (to be fair I
> had maxed out all my interrupts) so I ended up using it with the DOS
> drivers.
>
> If anyone has a PCI swpabox and wants a ISA swapbox I'd be happy to
> trade since the new desktop machine will be primarily a WIN machine.
> Most of the DOS stuff is moving to a thinkpad 560x which already has
> card slots.

Andrew:

Let me give you some fair warning.  I, too, had been using the SCM
Swapbox, ISA version, for over a year with no problems.  Recently, my
computer died and I got a new motherboard.  I did not have the foresight
that you did, and ended up with a PCI-only MB.  No problem, I thought.
I can just buy a new interface card.  Wrong.  The PCI version of the
SwapBox is a complete new design, even the PCMCIA cradle.  You have to
buy a whole new SwapBox unit.  Well, I decided to bite the bullet, given
how pleased I was with the ISA version.  When the new one arrived, I
installed it and couldn't get it to work right.  After a few phone calls
to the Tech Support at the distributor (Envoy), I was able to get it to
work partially - it could read SanDisk flash disks, but not Simple Tech
one, at the time my main Palmtop FLASH disk.  To me this was useless.
They pointed the finger at Simple Tech, and I tried to contact them.
So far, no response.  I'm in the process of getting an RMA so I can
return it, since it seems to only read certain FLASH disks.  I had no
such problems with the ISA version, which appeared to recognize any
card I could put in it.

If you want to trade your ISA for my PCI box, I might consider it if
there ends up being any problem with my RMA.  At least I'd have two
units that worked, even if I don't have any ISA slots right now in my
MB.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:47:30 -0500
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              Ed Padin <ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM>
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He'll get some. No one wants to bid on something that's 9 days away... at
least, not a serious bid. I've seen these go for $400-500. I had a 50CT and
then a 100 for a while. They are nice machines and are prized by many.
Nowadays, you gotta dish out a lot of cash to get a new machine that is that
small.


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From: "Larry Tachna" <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: FLUFF:OT:FS: Libretto 50CT For Sale


> >>I've got a very nice Libretto 50CT for sale with 32mb memory, a portable
> >>CD-ROM and an extra 4gb hard drive. Check it out at:
>
> I have one of those collecting dust, it is disappointing to see you
haven't
> had a serious bid yet

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:25:39 -0600
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              TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Oops! I think it's time for someone to post all the acronyms needed. I
didn't know there was an FA.

By the way, the item is FS if you contact me privately and we agree on
terms. The auction can be cancelled. It happens all the time.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

----- Original Message -----
From: David B. Rogers <dr7zyq@nidlink.com>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>;
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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: FLUFF:OT:FS: Libretto 50CT For Sale -- NOT!!


>
>
> Tom,
>
> Your Libretto isn't FS (For Sale) -- it is FA (For
> Auction).  For those of us who filter, it is a big
> difference.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David, WA7ZYQ
>
> Tom Salwasser wrote:
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > I've got a very nice Libretto 50CT for sale with 32mb memory, a portable
> > CD-ROM and an extra 4gb hard drive. Check it out at:
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1201270191
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Tom Salwasser
> >
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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:39:58 -0600
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I hear you Larry. My computing purchases are split evenly between hardware,
software and shelfware. It hurts to take a loss on the shelfware, but it
gives me a little "mad money". I call it mad money because if my wife knew I
had it she'd be mad. d;-)

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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From: Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: FLUFF:OT:FS: Libretto 50CT For Sale


>
> >>I've got a very nice Libretto 50CT for sale with 32mb memory, a portable
> >>CD-ROM and an extra 4gb hard drive. Check it out at:
>
> I have one of those collecting dust, it is disappointing to see you
haven't
> had a serious bid yet
>
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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 16:33:18 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: PC Anywhere and the 200LX
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> Sounds promising.  Wil it let you take over a windows desktop from the 200
> LX like PcAnywhere does?  And while I'm asking, will PcAnywhere 4.5 for DOS
> allow you to control a Windows desktop from the 200LX like later versions of
> PcAnywhere do?

I tried using 4.5 on the hp with my win95 desktop and could not get it
running. If I recall, there was some message about graphics screen
support.

Others may have better stories.

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:43:59 -0600
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Mine is a SanDisk.  It doesn't come with dos drivers.  It only says
it will appear as a drive letter in either windows or dos but I'm
sure they mean a dos window.  The requirements say windows.

I don't know if some of the other models support dos or not.  It
says on the label on bottom that it's made by Shuttle.  You might
look on their web page for dos drivers.

I know Shuttle has a web page but I don't remember the URL.  They
provided drivers for my previous CDR and I downloaded updates from
them.  They aren't www.shuttle.com.

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@pobox.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; "Barry"
<barry@FBTC.NET>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: DOS CRC tool?


> Barry wrote:
> > But I do suggest looking at the desktop PCMCIA readers.  I got
mine
> > at Best Buy for $69.  I think they've gone down to $49 now.
They
> > install easily in either the parallel or USB port.  I got the
USB
> > version but I've learned since then that the parallel ones are a
> > little faster.  But mine is pretty fast.
>
> Can the card readers be used on a DOS only desktop?
> I don't do Win*.
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
>
>

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 12:56:52 -0500
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF:OT:FS: Libretto 50CT For Sale
Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
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>>I call it mad money because if my
>>wife knew I
>>had it she'd be mad. d;-)


so that's where I went wrong with my ex wife!

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 12:33:34 -0600
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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To those of you using the ACE Card drivers for your SanDisk large FLASH
disks, I ask this question.  Can you tell me how you load them, and any
special instructions?  I have a set of these drivers from an earlier
ACE FLASH disk I used to have, and I now have a large SanDisk.  It seems
to work when I load ACECARD.COM and then ACEDRV.SYS in my config.sys file.
There are some switches on the ACECARD program, which I no longer know
what they mean.  I dug through all my documents, and cannot find my ACE
card manual.

If any of you have any instructions you could e-mail or FAX me, I would
appreciate it.  I can prove my ownership of an ACE card, if you are
concerned about releasing copyrighted material.

Thanks,

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 13:50:50 -0500
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> Does anyone out there know of a technique for converting 'bmp' files into
a decent
> black and white dither? Ideally, I like to have a tool which
intelligently performs
> all the conversion in one step.  ; )

I haven't found any all-in-one tool to do this yet, but with practice
you'll be able to do this pretty easily with a decent paint program and
bmp2icn.

Open your source image in your paint program, and adjust the
brightness/contrast, saturation and gamma to get the highest contrast for
your detail using the minimum number of colors. Then use a threshold or
dither tool (a 2x2 Ordered Dither usually works best) to render it B&W
only. If the image size is less than 44Wx32H, create a new picture at 44x32
and copy the image content into it. If the image size is greater than
44x32, you'll have to scale or crop it. Finally, reverse the image to
negative and save as a .BMP. *Then* you can use BMP2ICN to convert it to an
.ICN for the palmtop. Alternatively, you can leave the image as a positive,
save it to .PCX, then use PCX2ICN to convert it. (I believe that the .ICN
format is really .IMG with a different extension, but I haven't tested
this.) Either way, it must leave your paint program as a 2-color (B&W)
image, exactly 44 pixels wide by 32 pixels tall.

If you really want to save yourself the trouble, you might find the icon
you want among the over 1,000 at the S.U.P.E.R Icon Server:
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons or in my collection of Win icons
for X-Finder at: http//www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/xfwinicn.zip

Alternatively, you could e-mail your .ICOs to me, and I'll see what I can
do...

Bruce in Toronto

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I made this package visible on
http://alwaysafe.com/dasoft/public_ftp/OTHER/PCREMOT2.ZIP ... Contains the
.COM file, the .ASM source and documentation.

At 12/8/00 +0100, you wrote:
>A small, simple and free programme is PCREMOT2.COM which can be found on the
>ZIFF-DAVIES internet site (no pointer handy right now but a search engine
>will locate it).
>
>  \/
>  /ves
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              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff" <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:54 PM
Subject: Scott Moore / Shipping Methods


> Why not use 'free' Priority Mail packages and just charge the customer a
> flat $3.20 charge. The boxes are sturdy and the USPS will deliver them for
> free. I get them by the hundreds, literally. The USPS will even provide
> shipping labels with your return address preprinted.

This note by Jeff is interesting, as I think about it.    Virtually all my
Ebay
purchases have come with excellent packaging, with lots of pellets at best,
folded newspaper at worst.   By contrast, I have never received a package
from a manufacturer properly packaged.   The same applies to retail
deliveries (local area).   My TrgPro came from a reseller in a huge box
full of pellets.   I had to send it back to the manufacturer for warranty
replacement.
I used lots of folder newspaper.   They sent me a new replacement in a
totally unpadded envelope!!   True, the retail box had some minimal padding,
but goodness, it's a replacement unit, for crying outloud!   But no damage
ocurred, thankfully.  My warranty service with HP and my HP200LX a few years
ago
was not much better.   I sent it with 2 inches of foam from another device's
box (a
Poqet), and it came back with a very slim box, and about 1/10 inch foam!
The box
fits confortably in my pant's pocket.   :-o

All this to point out that there may be a trend for skimping on packaging
from
certain corners of the market.   I am waiting for a new desktop PC from
Compaq.
I hope it comes well padded!  But, as I said above, I have NEVER received
a product *from a manufacturer* properly packaged.

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Hi.   Many of you with Palms synchronize with your HP200LX via Outlook and
Curtis sync program + some other program on the desktop for the Palm.   What
I have found is that synchronizing with Outlook with either the HP200LX or
the Palm is much too slow to do it daily, so I tend to do it weekly or less
often.   The question is, is there a faster way?  I know some of you use a
variety of other desktop programs (Schedule, etc), which I am not familiar
with because, aside for syncing with my Palm, I have no curret need for a
desktop PIM.   I do have Intellisync for the hplx, but it doesn't seem to
work with any of the current desktop PIMs.

Any suggestions appreciated.

As a related aside, I have found found that I can send up to 4k of text very
quickly from my Palm directly to my hplx with Andreas' IR freeeware, set to
client setting (the irprint setting is too slow), and a freeware Palm
program called IRPAD.  It is currently a one way deal, but it is quick and
painless.   i am currently waiting for the update of a Palm program called
ONLINE.  It currently handles text, but it is cumbersome.  The update is
supposed to handle standard file transfer protocols via IR (zmodem, etc.).
I don't yet know whether they will support HPSIR directly, but I'll let you
know if they do decide to do so.

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> Does anyone out there know of a technique for converting 'bmp' files into
a decent black and white dither? Ideally, I like to have a tool which
intelligently performs all the conversion in one step.  ; )
>
> Thanks,
> Dale Batson

Dale,
You need to get a copy of Ibrowse by Mark Virtue. It will convert windose
*.ico files into palmtop *.icn files based on how you map the colors to
black and white. Check the SUPER site. If you cant find it then I can send
it to you.
Owen

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Hans,

Thanks for the help. Here's what I tried.

I already load MaxDOS from the autoexe file with the same parameters you
suggested, so my batch file looks like:

  @echo off
  c:\_bin\maxdos.com a:\pe\pe.exe

I've moved the PE and PIM files to a:\pe and a:\pim so they match the
default cfg files and updated all the paths to match. I also added
a:\pim\index, which I forgot to create before :)

The index (*.idx) files are getting generated but I get the same results;
DOS line with "-@ t taskname" and then back to PE.

I also tried uping the amount of memory in Setup>System>Advanced DOS field
to 250K (was 128K). Didn't make any difference.

Just so I'm clear on this, I'm expecting a screen to appear similar to the
one that shows up if you start PIM by itself. I'm also assuming that I
don't have to create a macro for CTRL-ENTER. I HAD a macro
   ;CTRL-ENTER opens file under cursor
   ;#1c0a=#2d18#186f
to hyperlink documents (CTRL-X O, i think) but removed it.

I'll play with it some more over the weekend and see if I come up with
anything.

Thanks again for your help.

Don

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Hans Peter Staber wrote:
Date:    Thu, 7 Dec 2000 20:13:22 +0100
From:    Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Re: PE & PIM problem

Don,

I'm running PIM/PE fine since 18 months now and I will try to help you.

First advice is to use the default PIM file names - look into the
pim.cfg and the pe.cfg which comes with the ZIP file. Do yourself a
favour and use the same directory names as well as long as you are not
comfortable with everything that sits in the cfg-files.

You seem to have a memory problem. Get MAXDOS.ZIP from the SUPER site
and call your PE editor from a batch file with the following lines :

c:\path\maxdos.com -l -e
maxdos c:\path\pe.exe
c:\path\maxdos.com -r

Report back about your progress.


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 22:53:52 +0100
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From:         "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@INAME.COM>
Subject:      Scott

Hi!

I think I's only fair to mention that I was in contact with Scott about
purchasing one of those 1.4Gb 2 1/2" drives, and he never replied to my last
e-mail sent 2000/12/05 06:43:52. The last I heard from him was 2000/12/03
22:41:52. I wouldn't think he would risk loosing all his customers on the
HPLX list over one ZIP-drive. Since he has not responded direct to me or tried
to reach me via the list, I am getting worried that something has happened to
him. Hopefully, it's only a computer problem on his end.

I have bought a few things from people via the net, and sent off cash in an
envelope on trust or on some occasions transferred the amount by bank. I've
never been cheated. I keep my purchases below USD 150 to 200. At the moment, I
have had enough good deals that it needs two such shipments to go bad before
I'm down to break even. I'm just about to buy a Psion Revo for USD 325, but
that is from the same person who sold me the HPLX, so I feel safer than
usual...

Owen
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Domingo Diaz-V wrote:
> > A year or two back a list member named Luke (I think) gave out all his
> > LX software in a series of 19 Zip files totaling about 23 Meg.
>
> How about putting those files in a site such as freedrive.com, where you
> get 50megs of storage on the Web for free, and even allows you to share
> those files with others without having to give your password?

I'm having offline discussion with someone on the list that has offered
to host the files.  Part of the problem is the rights and ownership of
all the files isn't cleearly understood.  Some are freeware, some are
shareware, and some may be commercial or registered shareware.  Without
a detailed examination of ALL the files we can't be sure.

I went back and found the original list posts from Feb. 1997.  I have
appended these posts from Luke Dibben to the LUKELIST I'm making
available by request (OFFLINE please).  Anyone that wants to try and get
involved with the complete set of 3700+ files should read Luke's
comments in those old posts.

Cheers... Russ

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Bruce, Owen and Werner,

Thanks for all the great info! Dr. Werner Furlan gave me a tip about a freeware tool called IrfanView (http://www.irfanview.com), which can batch process Windows ico files and perform most of the conversion work. For example, it can resize a group of icons to 44x32, convert them to grayscale, reduce the number of colors, and then save them as bmp files - all in one step! Now all I need to do is follow Bruce's instructions on enhancing and dithering these bmp files, then process them with bmp2icn. But perhaps Owen's suggestion about using Mark Virtue's Ibrowse will prove to be the simplest. I'll try both techniques this weekend, then let you know what works best.

Dale Batson

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Martin mailto:Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 11:51 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Converting Windows Icons to HPLX Icons


> Does anyone out there know of a technique for converting 'bmp' files into
> a decent black and white dither? Ideally, I like to have a tool which
> intelligently performs all the conversion in one step.  ; )

I haven't found any all-in-one tool to do this yet, but with practice
you'll be able to do this pretty easily with a decent paint program and
bmp2icn.

Open your source image in your paint program, and adjust the
brightness/contrast, saturation and gamma to get the highest contrast for
your detail using the minimum number of colors. Then use a threshold or
dither tool (a 2x2 Ordered Dither usually works best) to render it B&W
only. If the image size is less than 44Wx32H, create a new picture at 44x32
and copy the image content into it. If the image size is greater than
44x32, you'll have to scale or crop it. Finally, reverse the image to
negative and save as a .BMP. *Then* you can use BMP2ICN to convert it to an
.ICN for the palmtop. Alternatively, you can leave the image as a positive,
save it to .PCX, then use PCX2ICN to convert it. (I believe that the .ICN
format is really .IMG with a different extension, but I haven't tested
this.) Either way, it must leave your paint program as a 2-color (B&W)
image, exactly 44 pixels wide by 32 pixels tall.

If you really want to save yourself the trouble, you might find the icon
you want among the over 1,000 at the S.U.P.E.R Icon Server:
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons or in my collection of Win icons
for X-Finder at: http//www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/xfwinicn.zip

Alternatively, you could e-mail your .ICOs to me, and I'll see what I can
do...

Bruce in Toronto

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I've got one and I love it!  I don't own WWW/LX and haven't tried it on my
200LX though.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn
> Behalf Of A
> Meshar
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 7:23 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Ricochet 128K GS Modem
>
>
> Folks, this is a new service from Metricom.  They extended
> the network to
> support 128kbps service in various places. They are still officially
> building the network in LA, but I have been using their fast
> modem for two
> days now. It is fast. Clearly faster than the 56Kbps modems
> (and I just
> tested for Hal in the last two days a sweet pocket modem!!! He has my
> evaluation to do with as he sees fit!).  I get probably
> 50,000 baud on the
> palmtop - but I really have not measured it!
>
> All I did was connect the serial cable to the palmtop
> interface and plugged
> it in the COM1. Then ran WWWSETUP.EXE, added a new ISP Setup
> (I get my GS
> service through Wireless Webconnect), designated external modem, 57600
> speed (and 115200 baud), the ATZ is fine, dialin is 3333, and
> put in the
> proper DNS and alt DNS as well as my id and password. Used the same
> Rico_Script that comes built-in with WWW/LX. And away we went!!
>
> It was slightly more reliable at slower speed, but worked
> just as well at
> 115200. They use PAP (a variant of CHAP which is handles just
> as well by
> the CHAP script - the basis of the Rico_Script.
>
> This looks good!
>
> FYI - anyone interested in this portable radio modem.
>
> It is not cheap, BTW, but on the desktop you get nearly 128K
> baud - and
> that is nothing to sneeze at in a radio communication.
>
> Info at Metricom/Ricochet:  http://www.ricochet.com, and
> their Authorised
> service providers (where you buy modem and get the account)  Wireless
> WebConnect http://www.wwc.com and Juno Express at
> http://www.junmoexpress.com/ricochet
>
> Enjoy.
>
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Hi folks,

I just joined this list.  I have used HP palmtops for a long time.  My
current machine is a 2MB HP200LX with 32MB flash card.  I bought
it long ago when the 2MB HP200LXs first came out (early '90s but I
don't remember exactly when.  It has never given me any problems
and has literally been around the world with me several times.

I have a couple questions for the list.

1. I have DOS connectivity pack version 1.0.  Were there any versions
beyond this, and if so, what features did they add?

2. I have tried using TransFile Win 200 but it always gets errors when
trying to transfer files to my 200LX and aborts the transfer.  Am I
doing
something wrong?  It has a nice interface but it drove me nuts so I gave

up on it.  I have never had a problem with the HP Connectivity Pack
and have used it a lot.

3. I have an old 100LX that used to work but died.  Am trying to figure
out cost to repair and if it would be worth it or not.

Thanks,
Evan

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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 2000 22:52:08 -0500
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" <tcbordp@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US>
Subject:      OT: FA: 200LX 1M, Lots of Extras

Excellent HP 200LX Palmtop PDA Computer, Lots of Extras

Includes:

        1MB HP 200LX
        2 New AA Batteries
        1 New Backup Battery (CR2032)
        Quick Start and Users Guide

Extras:

        External AC Travel Adaptor
        RipOff Brand Padded Belt Case
        2 IBM 2.5MB Flash Disks
        Megahertz 14.4K Modem
        Accton 10baseT Network Card
        Unterminated Serial Cable

For more information or to place a bid go to:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1201404005




Peter W. Borders

Information Technology Specialist
Tidewater Community College
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Evan,

Welcome to the group. I think you will find that the members of this
list are a really good group of people.

> I have a couple questions for the list.
>
> 1. I have DOS connectivity pack version 1.0.  Were there any versions
> beyond this, and if so, what features did they add?

Perhaps someone on this list can answer this. I can't. I don't use this
software anymore. I have alternatives that I found on the Super Site
sponsered by Thaddeus.com..

> 2. I have tried using TransFile Win 200 but it always gets errors when
> trying to transfer files to my 200LX and aborts the transfer.  Am I
> doing
> something wrong?  It has a nice interface but it drove me nuts so I gave
>
> up on it.  I have never had a problem with the HP Connectivity Pack
> and have used it a lot.

Try this program again but lower the baud rate. This was the case when I
was using it. Now, I use Norton Commander 5.0 to transfer files between
my office desktop and the palmtop. At home I have an external USB
ATA/Compact Flash Ram/Smart Media Combination reader/writer. This device
is very small and runs well on Windows 98 Second Edition.

> 3. I have an old 100LX that used to work but died.  Am trying to figure
> out cost to repair and if it would be worth it or not.

Thaddeus Computing has a flat rate fee for repairs of US $125.00. I
believe this includes the 100LX but I would check with them. You may
even get them to update it with a 200LX motherboard if that is possible.
Again, I would difinately give them an email. Their web address is
www.thaddues.com.

William E. Blankenship

> Thanks,
> Evan
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Person" <eperson@MEDIAONE.NET>
> 1. I have DOS connectivity pack version 1.0.  Were there any versions
> beyond this, and if so, what features did they add?
I have version 1.2, i don't think it added any features...I would assume it
fixed problems.



> 2. I have tried using TransFile Win 200 but it always gets errors when
> trying to transfer files to my 200LX and aborts the transfer.  Am I
> doing
> something wrong?  It has a nice interface but it drove me nuts so I gave
I trashed Transfile...I could never get it to work.  I required a mouse and
the 200lx came in on the same serial port as the mouse.


> 3. I have an old 100LX that used to work but died.  Am trying to figure
> out cost to repair and if it would be worth it or not.
http://www.thaddeus.com will fix for $125.00, I would highly recommend them.

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Evan Person wrote:
> 1. I have DOS connectivity pack version 1.0.  Were there any versions
> beyond this, and if so, what features did they add?

I don't know what the releases are as I only use the Laplink portion to
connect with my desktop.  I do have two different versions; 1 has all
the original files dated in 1994 and the other has several of them
updated in 1995.

Cheers... Russ

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If you use the connectivity pack with no problems
and have W95 with no problems Both shd work. I have had no
problems with either one.

Maybe yor com/IRQ on win may be wrong or yor w2000 is
korrupted.  Look at them....

yor pal al............



> 1. I have DOS connectivity pack version 1.0.  Were there
> any versions
> beyond this, and if so, what features did they add?
>
> 2. I have tried using TransFile Win 200 but it always
> gets errors when
> trying to transfer files to my 200LX and aborts the
> transfer.


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Ken wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Evan Person" <eperson@MEDIAONE.NET>
> > 1. I have DOS connectivity pack version 1.0.  Were there any versions
> > beyond this, and if so, what features did they add?
> I have version 1.2, i don't think it added any features...I would assume it
> fixed problems.
>

Does HP even sell this program anymore?  Is it available anywhere else?
I've occasionally seen copies on Ebay but I don't ever remember seeing
a version number listed on any of the auctions.  I've never had problems with
version 1.0, maybe there's really no reason to get the latest version.

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hobchi wrote:

> If you use the connectivity pack with no problems
> and have W95 with no problems Both shd work. I have had no
> problems with either one.
>
> Maybe yor com/IRQ on win may be wrong or yor w2000 is
> korrupted.  Look at them....
>
> yor pal al............

I was using Win NT 4.0 with TF Win 200.  What sort of desktop
setup do you have (Windows version, processor speed, etc.)?

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Don,

>   @echo off
>   c:\_bin\maxdos.com a:\pe\pe.exe
>
> I've moved the PE and PIM files to a:\pe and a:\pim so they match the
> default cfg files and updated all the paths to match. I also added
> a:\pim\index, which I forgot to create before :)
>
> The index (*.idx) files are getting generated but I get the same =
results;
> DOS line with "-@ t taskname" and then back to PE.

Does that mean that you can start PE fine and you get the default *.pim
file loaded into PE ? If so issuing a Ctrl-Enter should start the PIM
application.

> I also tried uping the amount of memory in Setup>System>Advanced DOS =
field
> to 250K (was 128K). Didn't make any difference.

I'm not sure if that is enough memory. Try it from a plain DOS session
with max memory availlable. Do a PIM -r   reindexing before you start
PE.

> Just so I'm clear on this, I'm expecting a screen to appear similar to =
the
> one that shows up if you start PIM by itself.

Does that mean that PIM loads and displays fine if you call it directly
and not from within PE. If so I'm quite sure that your problem is a
memory problem. Another problem might be that the pointers in PE.CFG to =
the
PIM application are not correct.

> I'm also assuming that I
> don't have to create a macro for CTRL-ENTER. I HAD a macro
>    ;CTRL-ENTER opens file under cursor
>    ;#1c0a=3D#2d18#186f
> to hyperlink documents (CTRL-X O, i think) but removed it.

You don't need it.


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Russel Brooks writes:

> available by request (OFFLINE please).  Anyone that wants to try and get
> involved with the complete set of 3700+ files should read Luke's
> comments in those old posts.

Would you consider sending out (or making available) just the old posts,
so that those of us that weren't on the list then could size up the
situation?

Ted

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I am also in the Greensboro area.


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> >>North Carolina?
>
> I am in the Greensboro area
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>
> > If you use the connectivity pack with no problems
> > and have W95 with no problems Both shd work. I have had
> no
> > problems with either one.
> >
> > Maybe yor com/IRQ on win may be wrong or yor w2000 is
> > korrupted.  Look at them....
> >
> I was using Win NT 4.0 with TF Win 200.  What sort of
> desktop
> setup do you have (Windows version, processor speed,
> etc.)?

I've had several ver of w95 nerver with problems.
I thinks yor problems are with com/IRQ settings.
W2000 woiks OK.

yor pal al......


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hobchi wrote:

> >
> > > If you use the connectivity pack with no problems
> > > and have W95 with no problems Both shd work. I have had
> > no
> > > problems with either one.
> > >
> > > Maybe yor com/IRQ on win may be wrong or yor w2000 is
> > > korrupted.  Look at them....
> > >
> > I was using Win NT 4.0 with TF Win 200.  What sort of
> > desktop
> > setup do you have (Windows version, processor speed,
> > etc.)?
>
> I've had several ver of w95 nerver with problems.
> I thinks yor problems are with com/IRQ settings.
> W2000 woiks OK.
>
> yor pal al......
>

The symptoms don't seem to indicate that, I don't think.
Normally if it's com/IRQ problems the interface won't
work at all.  The symptoms I've seen repeatedly after
much fooling around are:

1. Small files (< 1K bytes) almost always transfer fine
in either direction (palmtop->PC or PC->palmtop).
2. Large files almost never transfer, but die somewhere
in the middle of the file.
3. Copying entire directories with many files almost never
transfer, dying after only a few files make it across.

I will make a wild guess and suspect:

1. There is a bug in TF Win 200 that causes both sides
to get into a NAK loop and neither side can recover.
Possibly this happens whenever a data transmission error
occurs.  Slowing the baud rate should help, as William
Blankenship suggested.  However in my case this doesn't
seem to help.
2. TF Win 200 has a protocol error bug that, once it
gets into this "bug" state, it cannot recover from.
3. There is a timing problem between the palmtop and
TF Win 200.  Maybe there needs to be greater delay
between packets on either/both sides because one side
can't turn the line around fast enough.  The transmitter
starts transmitting before the receiver is ready.  Either
the receiver only gets the tail end of the message or
it doesn't get anything at all.  This might be the most
likely scenario.  Is there any way to adjust inter-packet
delay timing parameters on either side?

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> building the network in LA, but I have been using their fast modem for =
two
> days now. It is fast. Clearly faster than the 56Kbps modems (and I just

I tested a richochet on my laptop via the usb port and got a
connection speed of 460000.  I was really surprised.
I wanted to try on the palmtop with www/lx, but the guy who loaned it to
my lost the serial cable.

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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(5) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.

They are in excellent Condition!
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $55.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


I also have  (2) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for
shipping and packaging.

Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you

can send payment to my address at:
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just Awesome!  and the
people I have worked with have been just great!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Theodore Heise wrote:
> Would you consider sending out (or making available) just the old posts,
> so that those of us that weren't on the list then could size up the
> situation?

Request the LUKELIST, I've included them along with the file list.

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Not exactly there- but about a 2 hours flight from it. May I ask why
this question- you want something stronger than diet coke? :-)

Jorgen

> > Is anyone on the list in the The
> Golden Triangle area of Thailand?
> or Bangkok?
>
> yor pal al...........
>

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William:

> my office desktop and the palmtop. At home I have an external USB
> ATA/Compact Flash Ram/Smart Media Combination reader/writer. This device
> is very small and runs well on Windows 98 Second Edition.

I was recently at CompUSA and Best and could not find any "reader" that
took full size pcmcia cards?  And from your description, I'm not sure if
the one you described does.  They seem, in the main, to be limited to
compact flash or smartmedia.

Anybody else find current pcmcia readers for the desktop?  I don't do
backups as often as I should since nothing is wonderful!

I have an Antec parallel port version but it does not work well (at all)
under my win98 system with a parallel port zip drive.  I think it may be
deactivated by the zip software but installing/uninstalling that is a
pain.

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Yep, it would work. Just plug the cable, set up to dial 3333, initialize
modem with ATZ, and off you go - neat....  Problems I have in LA is that
the network is not officially up, still in construction, so they take it
down any time they want to :-( but when it is up it is solid.

At 12/9/00 -0600, you wrote:
> > building the network in LA, but I have been using their fast modem for two
> > days now. It is fast. Clearly faster than the 56Kbps modems (and I just
>
>I tested a richochet on my laptop via the usb port and got a
>connection speed of 460000.  I was really surprised.
>I wanted to try on the palmtop with www/lx, but the guy who loaned it to
>my lost the serial cable.
>
>Tim
>
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I got a message that this was about to freeware, has it yet?
and if so where can I get it?
and will it work on a 95lx?
and to all of you that replied to my earlier posts, THANKS!!!

Jim Hromek
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"Does HP even sell this program anymore?  Is it available anywhere else?
I've occasionally seen copies on Ebay but I don't ever remember seeing
a version number listed on any of the auctions.  I've never had problems
with
version 1.0, maybe there's really no reason to get the latest version."

We still have some new copies of the HP Connectivity Pack that we sell for
$99.95. However, based on what you have said, I don't think there is any
reason for you to upgrade. If it works, don't fix it. There are no new
features in "latest" version.

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Date:         Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:08:44 -0600
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Hi Fred,

Check out the Actiontec PC-750 pcmcia card reader. I bought one from
www.cdw.com
I haven't gotten around to installing it yet, it's PCI bus. I have purchased
ISA bus pcmcia card readers from CDW and they have worked well for me. Good
luck.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser
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Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 12:29 PM
Subject: USB pcmcia (???) reader?


>
> William:
>
> > my office desktop and the palmtop. At home I have an external USB
> > ATA/Compact Flash Ram/Smart Media Combination reader/writer. This device
> > is very small and runs well on Windows 98 Second Edition.
>
> I was recently at CompUSA and Best and could not find any "reader" that
> took full size pcmcia cards?  And from your description, I'm not sure if
> the one you described does.  They seem, in the main, to be limited to
> compact flash or smartmedia.
>
> Anybody else find current pcmcia readers for the desktop?  I don't do
> backups as often as I should since nothing is wonderful!
>
> I have an Antec parallel port version but it does not work well (at all)
> under my win98 system with a parallel port zip drive.  I think it may be
> deactivated by the zip software but installing/uninstalling that is a
> pain.
>
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Scott,

Have you resolved the issues with Scott Shields or is he still an unhappy
customer? If I have problems, can I return the merchandise for a refund?

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: PCMCIA Disks and Processors are Available


>
> I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.
>
>
> (5) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
>
> They are in excellent Condition!
> One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
> Two (2) $55.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
>
>
> I also have  (2) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for
> shipping and packaging.
>
> Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you
>
> can send payment to my address at:
> my address at:
>
> Scott Moore
> 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> Beaverton, Or 97006
>
> Notes:
>
> I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
> you know that your disks are on the way.
>
> I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
> receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.
>
> I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
> thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery.
>
> All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
> test a customer's new prototype product at work.
>
>
> If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
> and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.
>
> The response over the last few months has been just Awesome!  and the
> people I have worked with have been just great!   Thanks alot!
>
> Scott
>
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Date:         Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:37:54 -0700
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
Subject:      Re: Goin' Postal Freeware?
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> I got a message that this was about to freeware, has it yet?
> and if so where can I get it?
> and will it work on a 95lx?
> and to all of you that replied to my earlier posts, THANKS!!!

A few days ago T. McCoy posted a cryptic message

>Hey Al, I got it goin`... <g>
>GOIN` POSTAL v5.0

and the headers showed Goin Postal v5.0 (Freeware). I haven't heard
anything official, and the Goin' Postal site hasn't changed.

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 08:32:12 +0800
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Gary,

Question.  You mention that you use the Megahertz CC3144 14.4 modem in the
HP200lx.  Curiously, have you tried using it on the internal batteries
alone?  Or are you always plugged into an AC outlet whenever using modem?

To the list in general, do all 14.4 Megahertz model work in the HP200lx?
If not, which models do?  The local thrift shop close to me has a couple of
Megahertz pcmcia thus may be worth looking at them.

regards,
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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 02:16:37 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> and the headers showed Goin Postal v5.0 (Freeware). I haven't heard
> anything official, and the Goin' Postal site hasn't changed.

Goin' Postal v5.01 Freeware should find its way to the SUPER site soon.
Tormorrow Sunday, hopefully.


Cheers,

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fantastic!!
Now, will it work on a 95lx??

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> On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Mike Kopplin wrote:
>
> > and the headers showed Goin Postal v5.0 (Freeware). I haven't heard
> > anything official, and the Goin' Postal site hasn't changed.
>
> Goin' Postal v5.01 Freeware should find its way to the SUPER site soon.
> Tormorrow Sunday, hopefully.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust
>
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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 02:30:19 +0100
Reply-To:     "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@iname.com>
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From:         "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@INAME.COM>
Subject:      Slightly OT: Low pass filter.

Hi!

As some of you know, I'm using a HP200LX to receive weatherfaxes from
shortwave radio. My problem is that at certain frequencies I get some QRM on
the receiver from the screen of the HP. If I unplug the RS232 cable, the noise
disappears, so I know it's coming in through the cable. I have the original HP
cable with a ferrite on it and also have a ferrite on the 12V power supply
cable for the receiver and the 12V power cable for the HP, but this doesn't
seem to help.

The radio is manufactured by NASA in the UK (no, not the USA space agency) who
sell an optional cable with an in-line filter, but it's a bit wasteful to send
off to the UK for such a small item. I've noticed that there are a couple of
radio amateurs on the list. Does anyone of you happen to have a drawing for a
low-pass filter I could use for this? I'd guess a cut off around 2.5kHz would
be about right. I'm not sure which signal on the RS232 the interface uses, but
I remember it's not RXD.

Owen
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Date:         Sat, 9 Dec 2000 20:28:57 -0600
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Does anyone out there know of a technique
> for converting 'bmp' files into a decent
> black and white dither? Ideally, I like to have
> a tool which intelligently performs
> all the conversion in one step.  ; )

Corel draw will turn anything into a black and white picture and do
a pretty fair job of it.

Barry

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Date:         Sat, 9 Dec 2000 18:46:17 -0800
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--- Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET> wrote:
> Not exactly there- but about a 2 hours flight from it.
> May I ask why this question- you want something stronger
than diet coke? :-)

Not reely, though I'd chat with some LIST peeople in da
reel as I pass by....
An ad hoc users meating mit bears.
where yu at?

 > Is anyone on the list in the The
 > Golden Triangle area of Thailand?
 > or Bangkok?
 >
 > yor pal al...........



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Date:         Sat, 9 Dec 2000 19:01:16 -0800
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> The symptoms don't seem to indicate that, I don't think.
> Normally if it's com/IRQ problems the interface won't
> work at all.  The symptoms I've seen repeatedly after
> much fooling around are:
>
> 1. Small files (< 1K bytes) almost always transfer fine
> in either direction (palmtop->PC or PC->palmtop).
> 2. Large files almost never transfer, but die somewhere
> in the middle of the file.
> 3. Copying entire directories with many files almost
> never
> transfer, dying after only a few files make it across.
>
> I will make a wild guess and suspect:
>
> 1. There is a bug in TF Win 200 that causes both sides
> to get into a NAK loop and neither side can recover.
> Possibly this happens whenever a data transmission error
> occurs.  Slowing the baud rate should help, as William
> Blankenship suggested.  However in my case this doesn't
> seem to help.
> 2. TF Win 200 has a protocol error bug that, once it
> gets into this "bug" state, it cannot recover from.
> 3. There is a timing problem between the palmtop and
> TF Win 200.  Maybe there needs to be greater delay
> between packets on either/both sides because one side
> can't turn the line around fast enough.  The transmitter
> starts transmitting before the receiver is ready.  Either
> the receiver only gets the tail end of the message or
> it doesn't get anything at all.  This might be the most
> likely scenario.  Is there any way to adjust inter-packet
> delay timing parameters on either side?
>
> Evan
If its that complikated, I'd drop it and
stick with the one (connex Pack) that woiks.
Its not worth the time to fool with something
that does no more than the one that do woik.

Both of mine woik but I still use my original
connex Pack in that I don have to go into windows.

yor pal al....................


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Date:         Sat, 9 Dec 2000 22:00:07 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: HP200LX modem

Oliver Chua writes:
>
> To the list in general, do all 14.4 Megahertz model work in the HP200lx?
> If not, which models do?  The local thrift shop close to me has a couple of
> Megahertz pcmcia thus may be worth looking at them.

I've used the Megahertz XJ2144 14.4 Gold Series modems for several years
in my 200LX.  They work great.

Ted

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Date:         Sat, 9 Dec 2000 23:03:42 -0500
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> Is WWW/LX worth it? is it easy to use and config?

I found WWW/LX to be easy to use and worth the money.  You can download =
it and
set it up on your palmtop.  It will allow limited usage this way.  You =
get a
chance to see if it will work for you before you purchase it.  So, if you =
can't
get it to work for you, you don't have to actually buy it.

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Date:         Sat, 9 Dec 2000 23:03:48 -0500
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> 3. I have an old 100LX that used to work but died.  Am trying to figure
> out cost to repair and if it would be worth it or not.

You might ask Thaddeus if they will either buy it, or take it in exhange =
for a
repair credit in case you 200LX breaks.

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> Alternatively, what is the most secure way to store sensitive
> information in my palmtop?

I am using Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) version 2.62 on my palmtop.  This is
probably one of the better choices for protecting sensitive information =
on your
palmtop.  There is also a nice palmtop program to provide a nice menu =
interface
for PGP.

Steve Carder (my public key is registered at the http://pgp.mit.edu site)

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 06:13:59 +0100
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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>You have not been in business. I take a chance every time I accept a
>personal check. I may not eat the next day. It is a secure way for Scott to
>do business without getting burned and he will eat the next day

not true

if you deposit the check into your account (and wait till it has cleared)
before sending the goods you can "eat" the next day

i assume Scott is afraid of the IRS (for whatever reason)

i don't deal with him any more because postal orders are too expensive here
in France (a check would cost me nothing)

the first time i dealt with Scott he acted correctly; the second time he
didn't answer my e-mail re. accepting a check.

i take this opportunity to recommend Mark Willis for all your shipping
needs.

Happy Holiday Season from Nathalie in France

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              Barnaby Ng <barnaby.ng@HOME.COM>
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I've an old Megahertz XJ2288 PC modem card that I would like to use in my ds
200LX. The lxcic recognise it, but I don't have a dos driver for it, not even
3com's web site. Any suggestion on how to make it work? I want to use it
mainly for sending/receiving fax.

Thanks,
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Date:         Sat, 9 Dec 2000 22:53:35 -0800
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Subject:      GOIN' POSTAL v5.0
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perused from the latest digest:
>Date:    Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:37:54 -0700
>From:    Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
>Subject: Re: Goin' Postal Freeware?
>
> I got a message that this was about to freeware, has it yet?
> and if so where can I get it?
> and will it work on a 95lx?
> and to all of you that replied to my earlier posts, THANKS!!!
>A few days ago T. McCoy posted a cryptic message
>Hey Al, I got it goin`... <g>
>GOIN` POSTAL v5.0
>and the headers showed Goin Postal v5.0 (Freeware). I haven't heard
>anything official, and the Goin' Postal site hasn't changed.

I had the honor of being the first to test out the freeware version.
Absolutely awesome!  My thanks go to Al Kind for the envelope & help he
sent a month or so back, and to Steven Lawson for making this excellent
program available once again.  Steve's gonna be announcing it's release any
day now, he was interested in finding a more reliable server to post it to
before releasing it.  Any day.  Well worth the wait..

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>To the list in general, do all 14.4 Megahertz model work in the HP200lx?
>If not, which models do?  The local thrift shop close to me has a couple of
>Megahertz pcmcia thus may be worth looking at them.

Oliver, I use the XJ2144 model, works real good with the 200LX

Also, re the GOIN' POSTAL question about compatiblity with the 95LX:
Not sure, the v5.0 (freeware) manual lists 100LX, 200LX, 700LX, & 1000CX.
I didn't see any mention of the 95LX..

HTH

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Steve Carder wrote:

> > 3. I have an old 100LX that used to work but died.  Am trying to figure
> > out cost to repair and if it would be worth it or not.
>
> You might ask Thaddeus if they will either buy it, or take it in exhange for a
> repair credit in case you 200LX breaks.
>
> Steve Carder

Maybe they can upgrade it with a doublespeed 32MB 200lx motherboard.
Would blow the socks off other 100LXs out there.

Or maybe I should find another 100LX with a bad screen and
good motherboard and have them make one good one that works.
Or maybe I need one with a good screen and bad motherboard.  Before
it died the screen would come and go intermittently.  Finally the screen
just wouldn't display anything.  I always figured it was a bad motherboard.
I don't really need it right now, but it would be nice to get it working again.

Anybody else out there use Micro Emacs?  I just compiled V4.00 from
source for the screen dimensions of my 200LX, gonna try it out tomorrow.
It seemed to work fine on my DOS laptop.  I've used it before on the 200LX
but without the screen dimension change it's only useable with the tiny font.

Evan

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"T. McCoy" wrote:

> >To the list in general, do all 14.4 Megahertz model work in the HP200lx?
> >If not, which models do?  The local thrift shop close to me has a couple of
> >Megahertz pcmcia thus may be worth looking at them.
>
> Oliver, I use the XJ2144 model, works real good with the 200LX
>
> Also, re the GOIN' POSTAL question about compatiblity with the 95LX:
> Not sure, the v5.0 (freeware) manual lists 100LX, 200LX, 700LX, & 1000CX.
> I didn't see any mention of the 95LX..
>
> HTH

How about an XJ4336?  I've got one laying around but I've never
tried it in my 200LX.  It says "Load: 4, 5.0V" on the back.  Anybody
know what "Load: 4" means?  I have no docs with this thing.

Evan

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:19:52 +0100
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hello,

on 9 Dec 2000, at  0:15, Ken wrote about
"Re: New member":
>
> > 2. I have tried using TransFile Win 200 but it always gets errors
> > when trying to transfer files to my 200LX and aborts the transfer.
> >  Am I doing something wrong?  It has a nice interface but it drove
> > me nuts so I gave
> I trashed Transfile...I could never get it to work.  I required a
> mouse and the 200lx came in on the same serial port as the mouse.

if the program works to some extent it cannot be the serial
settings, otherwise it would not work at all.
Transfile _has_ a bug in transmitting some code (I do not know
which combination of bits it is) but you can find out if this is the
case when the transfer stops always on the same spot of the
file. Most time it is possible to send the file to the palmtop if you
zip it or unzip it if it is already zipped. In my opinion it is not worth
to fiddle around with transfile if it hangs because there are some
other programs that will do the job without being persuaded.
 I had this problem too once and I was informed by some
members of the list. (thank you!)

73!
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I use the Megahertz Xjack XJ2288 modem and I've always had to have
it connected to the AC outlet to make it work.  Running it on
batteries alone causes the palmtop to gasp and die.  Recovery only
on reboot.
HTH
Tony.

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Sent: Sunday, 10 December 2000 13:32
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: HP200LX modem


Gary,

Question.  You mention that you use the Megahertz CC3144 14.4
modem in the
HP200lx.  Curiously, have you tried using it on the internal
batteries
alone?  Or are you always plugged into an AC outlet whenever using
modem?

To the list in general, do all 14.4 Megahertz model work in the
HP200lx?
If not, which models do?  The local thrift shop close to me has a
couple of
Megahertz pcmcia thus may be worth looking at them.

regards,
Oliver

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Jim Hromek wrote:

> Now, will it work on a 95lx??

The program should run on the 95LX if you are able to tell it
to use MDA screen mode instead of CGA. The 95LX only supports
MDA (mode 7).

Apart from that, the bigger problem will be to connect a modem
to the 95LX, because it's serial port has only 3 wires (Rx,Tx
and Ground). No chance for the 95LX to "see" the modem status.

However I succeded in 1990 to connect and use an external
2400 baud modem with the 95LX. I used it to connect to the
german BTX service which is just about to die these days :-(

I had to open the external modem and do some extra wiring
inside. It was a trial and error method, but finally it worked.
I no longer have the modem and cannot remember what I did.

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 08:32:42 -0500
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   >Question.  You mention that you use the Megahertz CC3144 14.4 modem
   >in the HP200lx.  Curiously, have you tried using it on the internal
   >batteries alone?  Or are you always plugged into an AC outlet
   >whenever using modem?
   >To the list in general, do all 14.4 Megahertz model work in the
   >HP200lx? If not, which models do?  The local thrift shop close to
   >me has a couple of Megahertz pcmcia thus may be worth looking at
   >them.
Message-Id: <20001210133247.YNYB25510.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@12.72.154.43>
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:32:52 +0000

Some work better than others.  XJ3144 is a cellular model and there were
some figures posted on a website (long gone) that its power usage was lower
than some of the others in the family line.

I've used 3144 in my 200LX on batteries only, and would recommend it.

- Longden

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Longden Loo wrote:

>    >Question.  You mention that you use the Megahertz CC3144 14.4 modem
>    >in the HP200lx.  Curiously, have you tried using it on the internal
>    >batteries alone?  Or are you always plugged into an AC outlet
>    >whenever using modem?
>    >To the list in general, do all 14.4 Megahertz model work in the
>    >HP200lx? If not, which models do?  The local thrift shop close to
>    >me has a couple of Megahertz pcmcia thus may be worth looking at
>    >them.
> Message-Id: <20001210133247.YNYB25510.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@12.72.154.43>
> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:32:52 +0000
>
> Some work better than others.  XJ3144 is a cellular model and there were
> some figures posted on a website (long gone) that its power usage was lower
> than some of the others in the family line.
>
> I've used 3144 in my 200LX on batteries only, and would recommend it.
>
> - Longden

My XJ4336 says it's also a cellular model.  It might work.  I'm not surprised
most of these things cause a 200LX to croak.  Ever notice how hot they
get when in use?

Evan

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> > Some work better than others.  XJ3144 is a cellular model and there were
> > some figures posted on a website (long gone) that its power usage was lower
> > than some of the others in the family line.
> >
> > I've used 3144 in my 200LX on batteries only, and would recommend it.
>
> My XJ4336 says it's also a cellular model.  It might work.  I'm not surprised
> most of these things cause a 200LX to croak.  Ever notice how hot they
> get when in use?

The xj4336 is a 33.6 modem, and most early 33.6k modems (or anything above
14.4k) had power problems on the 200LX, with a few exceptions.  The newer crop
of PDA conscious modems may fare better, but I haven't tried them.  I do have
the 33.6k Simple Tech Communicator modem, and it works fine in the 200LX without
getting too warm, but I only use it infrequently (I believe it's discontinued
... I bought it from Father Al).

I haven't used a xj4336 myself, but the xj3144 runs fairly cool, or at least it
doesn't get hot.  I don't have a cell phone (so knock that off your Southern
California stereotypes <g>) and just used the modem in the 200LX, usually on
batteries and on a regular phone line.  The modem never caused my 2x/6mb 200LX
to burb (ie, no power warning msgs during insert), and ran for quite a while
before the batteries would cave in.

I'm hesitant to quantify the "quite a while" cuz I no longer use it, and on-line
time (on batteries) varies depending on the activity (ie, browsing/answering
email vs downloading the complete works of Shakespeare), and the type of
batteries used.  I seem to remember my 1500mAh NiMH giving me on the order of
1/2 hour of downloading time on that modem .... but don't trust my memory on
that.

- Longden

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
Subject: Re: New member (transfile bug)
> if the program works to some extent it cannot be the serial
> settings, otherwise it would not work at all.
> Transfile _has_ a bug in transmitting some code (I do not know
> which combination of bits it is) but you can find out if this is the
> case when the transfer stops always on the same spot of the
> file.
I beleive it was the serial port...I could never get a connection even
though I tried every serial port setting on the desktop and the 200lx.     I
could never establish a connection that was usable.  So I trashed the
program and stuck with connectivity pack which does work.  I came to the
conclusion the mouse was screwing up trasnfile because the 200lx had to come
in on the same port as mouse.















---------------------------------------------------------------
Long live the hp200lx., The complete pc
solution that will fit in your pocket.

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:11:03 -0800
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Hello,

has somebody ever found out the meaning of these LXB functions?
They are listed in the reference portion, but not described.

Thanks
Norbert

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:19:21 -0700
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              Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
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For those of you who may not have had the opportunity to try GP,=
 I thought I
might give my impressions as a registered user. I was pleased to=
 see that
Steven Lawson has made it freeware although I still feel his=
 license fee was a
more than a bargain to begin with.

The program's setup is as straightforward as one could possibly=
 hope for. It
allows for multiple email addresses, multiple ISP dialups, etc.=
 In my case I
have three ISP's with one email account from each. Each is used=
 for a different
purpose and/or location as I travel between two cities=
 frequently. My setup on
the 200LX took less than 20 minutes for all the accounts.=
 Although I did not
take advantage of the program's ability to handle separate=
 dialups and email
accounts within a single setup, I opted to have the program=
 installed installed
in three separate directories (3 full installations) in order to=
 keep the
emails separate. This points to the only limitation of the=
 program: One cannot
create folders or mailboxes to sort one's mail into.

Since the program is intended to become freeware I will let the=
 rabbit out of
the hat - Goin' Postal in its last licensed release was fully=
 functional on any
DOS machine, not just the HPLX palmtop. I run it on my Toshiba=
 laptop daily and
swap email files to and from the LX, to and from the laptop with=
 ease using
Transfile 200.

As a veteran programmer of 22 years, a software instructor for 20=
 of those
years, and a systems analyst for 15 of those years, my=
 professional and
personal opinion of GP is that it represents what programming was=
 always
intended to be: a stable and intuitive solution that performs a=
 single task
elegantly in the smallest amount of space, time and effort. Nice=
 job, Steve,
and very generous of you to make GP freeware. I hope others take=
 the
opportunity to appreciate your effort.
Bob

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:47:38 -0800
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I've been getting hit with an inordinate amount of spam lately, and can't
find the .gov address to forward it to.  Anybody have it?

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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 09:47 AM 10/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I've been getting hit with an inordinate amount of spam lately, and can't
>find the .gov address to forward it to.  Anybody have it?

www.microsoft.com????????   LOL

Sorry couldnt resist

Russell

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:22:08 -0500
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Hello,


> William:
> I was recently at CompUSA and Best and could not find any "reader" that
> took full size pcmcia cards?  And from your description, I'm not sure if
> the one you described does.

Yes, this one does. It actually accepts full sized ATA PCMCIA Type II
Cards.
Compact flash (CF) cards only word with this drive when the chip is
inserted
into the supplied ATA adapter. This is the reason that I purchased this
reader/writer. Others that I have seen only accept CF and Smart Media.
This
one accepts ATA/CF/Smart Media. There are two slots and each shows as a
different
drive on the desktop. The ATA/CF slot shows as one drive and the Smart
Media
slot shows as a drive. This unit is pretty fast and is not very
expensive. I
purchased mine for 79.00. I hope this clarifies the point as to whether
the
Digital Media Express accepts ATA and Compact Flash Ram.

William E. Blankenship

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Please contact info@dasoft.com by email. Thank you.

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:47:57 -0500
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This falls under the "You didn't know that?" category; I am sending this
because I didn't.

Each time you hit the spacebar when the alarm goes off it adds 5 minutes
snooze time.  It cycles in 5 minute increments up to 55 minutes, then off
again.

All these years and I never pressed it more than once, go figure.

Scott

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Schindler" <scotts@TOVAX.COM>
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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 2:47 PM
Subject: Appointment Alarm Snooze


> This falls under the "You didn't know that?" category; I am sending this
> because I didn't.
>
> Each time you hit the spacebar when the alarm goes off it adds 5 minutes
> snooze time.  It cycles in 5 minute increments up to 55 minutes, then off
> again.
>
> All these years and I never pressed it more than once, go figure.
>
> Scott
>
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>
Neat...too bad I never discovered that.

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:35:47 -0500
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Hello,

Curiousity has the best of me this time. I have heard that there is a
large flash ram driver available. At what size limit is this a
necessity? I can understand one needed for the 440mb and 220 mb cards
but what about the 192 CF cards?

William E. Blankenship

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:56:52 +0000
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FreeCell fans,  I just finished FC game 455 and found it difficult
enough to mention.  If you try the game look where the Aces, 2s, and 3s
are at the start and you'll see what I mean.

What difficult games have you encountered recently?

Since Curtis added the "+" command at startup I decided to play the
games in numeric order instead of letting FC pick one randomly for me.
I'm also "W"riting the game solution at the end of every game so if you
ever run into a hard one, that I've already played, I might have a
solution for you.

I've won 1211 or 1212 played; the one I lost was the impossible game.

Cheers...Russ

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> 1. Small files (< 1K bytes) almost always transfer fine
> in either direction (palmtop->PC or PC->palmtop).
> 2. Large files almost never transfer, but die somewhere
> in the middle of the file.
> 3. Copying entire directories with many files almost never
> transfer, dying after only a few files make it across.

That sounds like it could be a flow control problem.

Barry

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> I was recently at CompUSA and Best and
> could not find any "reader" that took full size
> pcmcia cards?  And from your description,
> I'm not sure if the one you described does.
> They seem, in the main, to be limited to
> compact flash or smartmedia.

Mine is a compact flash reader.  But I haven't bought a full size
PCMCIA card since my first 10 meg card years ago.

Compact flash is the same thing in a smaller package and works in a
lot more devices and the combination of a compact flash and the
PCMCIA adapater is still cheaper than the same size PCMCIA card.

However, there are PCMCIA readers, also.  I've seen them on the web.
Maybe in CDW.  I've also seen one that can read both.  But I don't
remember where.  It was on the web somplace and I saw it in the past
few months

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> Jim Hromek wrote:
>
> > Now, will it work on a 95lx??
>
> Apart from that, the bigger problem will be to connect a modem
> to the 95LX, because it's serial port has only 3 wires (Rx,Tx
> and Ground). No chance for the 95LX to "see" the modem status.

If I recall some combination of AT&c1d1 or c1d2 or some such setup on a
modem with configuration that will hold between poweroffs and set from a
Desktop computer would allow a modem to work with the 95.  Ignore dtr or
similar was the necessary tweak.

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> This falls under the "You didn't know that?" category; I am sending this
> because I didn't.
>
> Each time you hit the spacebar when the alarm goes off it adds 5 minutes
> snooze time.  It cycles in 5 minute increments up to 55 minutes, then off
> again.
>
> All these years and I never pressed it more than once, go figure.


And pressing BACKSPACE cycles down from 55 minutes in 5 minute
increments! (G))

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Oliver

I use the CC3144 with the adapter only.  I don't want to push my luck
by drawing down the internal batteries and losing the C: drive.


Oliver Chua wrote:
>
> Gary,
>
> Question.  You mention that you use the Megahertz CC3144 14.4 modem in the
> HP200lx.  Curiously, have you tried using it on the internal batteries
> alone?  Or are you always plugged into an AC outlet whenever using modem?

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> Curiousity has the best of me this time. I have heard that there is a
> large flash ram driver available. At what size limit is this a
> necessity? I can understand one needed for the 440mb and 220 mb cards
> but what about the 192 CF cards?

William (Bill?):


As I just upgraded to a 440MB one, I'll chime in with what I understand.
I asked Mack this question, and it appears to be related to where SanDisk
chose to put the boot sector on the FLASH disk.  I can't say this driver
is limited to SanDisk, or at what capacity the need for the driver is
present.  Maybe Mack can shed additional light.  But based on his
explanation, it is conceivable that some manufacturer's small capacity
FLASH disks might need the driver.  I remember my first 30/60MB ACE
flash disk - it came with a driver - indeed, this same driver also works
with my latest SanDisk.

-Chris


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Date:         Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:39:41 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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Hi all,

For those that were interested, Steve Lawson's unsupported freeware
version of Goin' Postal has just been added to the SUPER archive.


Cheers,

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:52:33 -0800
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_SOME_ large drives require a driver to function on the palmtop. I use a
512MB ATA without a driver. The large Sandisks DO require one. There is a
driver called ACEDRIVE3.COM, but I do not know its availability.  Mack?

I am not sure if ANY of the CF cards require the drivers.

At 12/10/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Curiousity has the best of me this time. I have heard that there is a
>large flash ram driver available. At what size limit is this a
>necessity? I can understand one needed for the 440mb and 220 mb cards
>but what about the 192 CF cards?
>
>William E. Blankenship
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Date:         Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:21:46 +1300
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See:

http://www.mobileplanet.com/

click on "Accessories",
then "PC Card / Compact Flash Readers"

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:59:52 -0500
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Just FYI I have no problem with transfile. Since I got my upgraded 200lx I've
been transferring over 10MB of data over a serial cable using transfile,
including the Collins dictionary. Baud rate is set at 38.4K, and yes it hogs my
pc during transfer, but I should be able to fix this once I get my hands on a
second cpu.
Barnaby


Ken wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
> Subject: Re: New member (transfile bug)
> > if the program works to some extent it cannot be the serial
> > settings, otherwise it would not work at all.
> > Transfile _has_ a bug in transmitting some code (I do not know
> > which combination of bits it is) but you can find out if this is the
> > case when the transfer stops always on the same spot of the
> > file.
> I beleive it was the serial port...I could never get a connection even
> though I tried every serial port setting on the desktop and the 200lx.     I
> could never establish a connection that was usable.  So I trashed the
> program and stuck with connectivity pack which does work.  I came to the
> conclusion the mouse was screwing up trasnfile because the 200lx had to come
> in on the same port as mouse.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Long live the hp200lx., The complete pc
> solution that will fit in your pocket.
>
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Date:         Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:00:28 +1300
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Has anyone successfully implemented the cclxpop and lxmta software
and then gone on to import the cc:mail files into MS outlook 2000?
TIA
Tony.



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              WEB <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
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Chris and Avi,

The reason I ask is I was poking around looking for something the other
day
at my girlfriend's house and discovered a stocking stuffer that is a
192mb Sandisk
card. Hmmm. Says I. Now who could this be for. Since she was in the
other
room waiting for me to retrieve the object of my quest and knowing that
I
was looking in the wrong place, I looked elsewhere and found what I
needed.
She doesn't know that I found it but what a nice gift.

I just want to make sure that I can plug this into the 200LX on Chrismas
day
and show her that it works flawlessly <grin>.

I wish I hadn't seen it <grin>, but it is nice to know that I have it to
look forward to. This almost takes me back to my earlier days of longing
for the opening of the presents. ;)

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Date:         Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:51:42 -0500
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Longden Loo writes:

> I'm hesitant to quantify the "quite a while" cuz I no longer use it, and on-line
> time (on batteries) varies depending on the activity (ie, browsing/answering
> email vs downloading the complete works of Shakespeare), and the type of
> batteries used.  I seem to remember my 1500mAh NiMH giving me on the order of
> 1/2 hour of downloading time on that modem .... but don't trust my memory on
> that.

I could run the XJ2144 for nearly an hour on a fresh set of NiCd cells.
It would only run 5-10 minutes with alkalines--even a fresh set.  I
think this has to do with the higher internal resistance of alkalines.

I run on NiMH cells now and haven't used the modem much away from AC
power, as I usually use my cell phone instead.  It doesn't seem to draw
much (if any) power from the palmtop.

Ted

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Date:         Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:11:45 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Evan,

Welcome! :-)

On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 21:23:25 -0600, Evan Person <eperson@MEDIAONE.NET> wrote:

> 3. I have an old 100LX that used to work but died.  Am trying to figure
> out cost to repair and if it would be worth it or not.

Even if it was not worth repairing it, keep it or sell it to anyone who
needs spare parts! You didn't write WHAT doesn't work anymore. Maybe it
can easily be fixed. If not, such things like the screen or the housing
or the kayboard can be still very interesting for some people (like me
;-) ).

If you would like to get it repaired, Thaddeus (www.palmtoppaper.com)
or, if you live in Europe, Thomas Rundel (www.rundel.net) are the
companies who can repair it.

GTX
daniel

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I use Microsoft Paint to convert the size to 44x32 and the color to black &
white before using bmp2icn. No complain at all.


Regards,
Leong

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Date:       12/8/2000 4:13 AM

Greetings Palmtoppers,

I recently downloaded "ico2bmp" from
http://www.ghostlight.com/software/old_versions.html and "bmp2icn" from
http://www.palmtop.net/super.html , thinking I'd be able to easily convert
Windows icons into HPLX 'icn' format.

The first snag: bmp2icn complained that the 'bmp' files needed to be 44 x 32
pixels. As an experiment, I converted one of these 'bmp' files into the required
size, using Canvas. Second snag: bmp2icn complained that the 'bmp' file needed
to be monochrome. So, I went back to Canvas and converted the 'bmp' to
gray-scale, then posterized it to 3 colors (black, gray and white), but bmp2icn
still complained that the 'bmp' file needed to be monochrome. I was hoping this
program could dither the middle gray color into a checkerboard pattern like I've
seen done on some HPLX icons, but apparently it can't handle that.

Does anyone out there know of a technique for converting 'bmp' files into a
decent black and white dither? Ideally, I like to have a tool which
intelligently performs all the conversion in one step.  ; )

Thanks,
Dale Batson

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James,

I have no experience wil PCAnywhere 4.5 so I can't comment on that. It is =
a
long time since I have used PCREMOT2 but it should be able to take =
control of
a DOS window under WIN95 if the window is maximized (ALT-Enter).

> Sounds promising.  Wil it let you take over a windows desktop from the =
200
> LX like PcAnywhere does?  And while I'm asking, will PcAnywhere 4.5 for =
DOS

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Date:         Mon, 11 Dec 2000 06:31:40 -0500
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Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:02:21 -0500 (EST)

Oliver:

  I have had the best luck with the XJ2144, I have had some luck with
  the XJ1144 aswell, but had some problems with it & some
  communications programs.

  Cheers...AJKind

13h30m09s ago ...
On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Oliver Chua wrote:

> Gary,
>
> Question.  You mention that you use the Megahertz CC3144 14.4 modem in =
the
> HP200lx.  Curiously, have you tried using it on the internal batteries
> alone?  Or are you always plugged into an AC outlet whenever using =
modem?
>
> To the list in general, do all 14.4 Megahertz model work in the HP200lx?
> If not, which models do?  The local thrift shop close to me has a =
couple of
> Megahertz pcmcia thus may be worth looking at them.
>
> regards,
> Oliver
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Hi,

Is it possible to "tighten" a loose hinge?  How?

My 200lx has always been very easy to open (maybe that's why no hinge
crack yet?)... but it lately, it has become too loose.  I.E. the screen
won't stay in the upright position without constant attention any
longer.

TIA

Marcus

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              Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
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I put a few drops of rubbing alcohol into the hinge without
taking it apart, and that helped a lot. Seems like a harmless
first step. Bryan

Marc - wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to "tighten" a loose hinge?  How?
>
> My 200lx has always been very easy to open (maybe that's why no hinge
> crack yet?)... but it lately, it has become too loose.  I.E. the screen
> won't stay in the upright position without constant attention any
> longer.
>
> TIA
>
> Marcus
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>I've an old Megahertz XJ2288 PC modem
> card that I would like to use in my ds
> 200LX. The lxcic recognise it, but I don't have
> a dos driver for it, not even 3com's web site.
> Any suggestion on how to make it work? I want
> to use it mainly for sending/receiving fax.

I have a 14.4 Megahertz that I got used and I called 3com support
because I couldn't find a dos driver for it on their site and they
said it doesn't need a driver in dos.  I never actually got around
to using it so I don't know how that works or how valid it is.  You
might give them a call.

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<<
Is it possible to "tighten" a loose hinge?  How?

My 200lx has always been very easy to open (maybe that's why no hinge
crack yet?)... but it lately, it has become too loose.  I.E. the screen
won't stay in the upright position without constant attention any
longer.
>>

I reposted a note from another list member (Robert Hocking) about a month ago
describing how he alternately tightened and loosened his hinge using alcohol and
WD-40.

Look in the archives for the subject, "Hinge crack" around 11/9.  Or email me if
you can't find it.  It's a long post and I'm not sure everyone wants to be
inflicted yet again.

- Longden

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OK, sounds like it won't do for my purposes then. We have about 1500
customer sites with a router and a (NT) proxy server on the customer
premises.  I use my 200LX to configure the routers and it's a lot quicker
than firing up my laptop. We use PcAnywhere to remotely manage all the
servers  and I was hoping to use my LX for this too. I've got to control the
server's desktop to do this though.

Jim

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Subject: Re: PC Anywhere and the 200LX


James,

I have no experience wil PCAnywhere 4.5 so I can't comment on that. It is a
long time since I have used PCREMOT2 but it should be able to take control
of
a DOS window under WIN95 if the window is maximized (ALT-Enter).

> Sounds promising.  Wil it let you take over a windows desktop from the 200
> LX like PcAnywhere does?  And while I'm asking, will PcAnywhere 4.5 for
DOS

 \/
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> Anybody else out there use Micro Emacs?
> I just compiled V4.00 from source for the
> screen dimensions of my 200LX, gonna try
> it out tomorrow. It seemed to work fine on
> my DOS laptop.  I've used it before on the
> 200LX but without the screen dimension
> change it's only useable with the tiny font.

There's a program around called Freyja, which is Craig Finseth's
version of emacs for the 95lx and the 100lx.  The 100lx version
(same as 200lx) knows about screen size changes and adjusts itself
properly for them, just like the built in apps.  He was one of the
developers of the built in apps, if I remember right.

I played with it some but I'm alergic to emacs and it made me sneaze
too much.

It's the supersite at
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl?dbname=freyja30.zip&UR
L=http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/freyja30.zip.

Interesting side note:  I thought I had a copy of this and while
looking for it (I didn't find it) I ran spotted a 1.44 floppy with 2
backups of my palmtop.  Yes, 2 on one floppy.  They're dated 8/29/92
and 9/29/92.  The A: backup for 8/29 is only 347k.  I think that's
from when I had a 512k sram card.  I think I paid $599 for that
card.  What a huge capacity that was to carry in my pocket!  That
was before flash was available, I think.  I was looking at a compact
flash with 48 meg the other day for $119.  Times have changed.  :)

I don't remember when I got the 95lx.  I didn't think it was that
far back but I guess it must have been.

Barry

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Date:         Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:17:57 -0800
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That took care of it... Thank-you for the suggestion Bryan and Longden.

Marcus

> I put a few drops of rubbing alcohol into the hinge without
> taking it apart, and that helped a lot. Seems like a harmless
> first step. Bryan
>
> Marc - wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is it possible to "tighten" a loose hinge?  How?
> >
> > My 200lx has always been very easy to open (maybe that's why no hinge
> > crack yet?)... but it lately, it has become too loose.  I.E. the =
screen
> > won't stay in the upright position without constant attention any
> > longer.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Marcus
> >
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> Question.  You mention that you use the Megahertz CC3144 14.4 modem in
the
> HP200lx.  Curiously, have you tried using it on the internal batteries
> alone?  Or are you always plugged into an AC outlet whenever using modem?
>
I also use a Megahertz CC3144 in my 200LX. It works fine under battery
power for sessions at least 30 minutes long.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:22:57 -0700
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Comments inline below.

>From:    Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
>Subject: Re: Follow up to PE & PIM problem
>
>Don,
>
>>   @echo off
>>   c:\_bin\maxdos.com a:\pe\pe.exe
>>
>> I've moved the PE and PIM files to a:\pe and a:\pim so they match the
>> default cfg files and updated all the paths to match. I also added
>> a:\pim\index, which I forgot to create before :)
>>
>> The index (*.idx) files are getting generated but I get the same =
>results;
>> DOS line with "-@ t taskname" and then back to PE.
>
>Does that mean that you can start PE fine and you get the default *.pim
>file loaded into PE ? If so issuing a Ctrl-Enter should start the PIM
>application.

That's exactly the problem. I start PE and get cur.pim (my default).
CTRL-ENTER brings up the line mentioned above, then drops back to PE.

>> I also tried uping the amount of memory in Setup>System>Advanced DOS =
>field to 250K (was 128K). Didn't make any difference.
>
>I'm not sure if that is enough memory. Try it from a plain DOS session
>with max memory availlable. Do a PIM -r   reindexing before you start
>PE.

Pumped memory up to 512K, dropped to DOS (no reboot), and reindexed. No luck.

>> Just so I'm clear on this, I'm expecting a screen to appear similar to =
>>the one that shows up if you start PIM by itself.
>
>Does that mean that PIM loads and displays fine if you call it directly
>and not from within PE. If so I'm quite sure that your problem is a
>memory problem. Another problem might be that the pointers in PE.CFG to =
>the PIM application are not correct.

Correct. Calling PIM.EXE from a DOS prompt started PIM fine. Once inside PE
it doesn't want to work. Both CFG files look fine compared to the docs.

I think it's a memory problem too, but I don't know what to change. As I
said in my first post, since upgrading to 2.3 I haven't been able to use
PICK unless I open PE with all available memory (pe |). Maybe I'm just
being dense. Is anyone running PIM on a 2Mb unit?

>> I'm also assuming that I
>> don't have to create a macro for CTRL-ENTER. I HAD a macro
>>    ;CTRL-ENTER opens file under cursor
>>    ;#1c0a=3D#2d18#186f
>> to hyperlink documents (CTRL-X O, i think) but removed it.
>
>You don't need it.
>
>
>HP Staber/Salzburg

Once again, thanks for all the help.

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Barry wrote:

> There's a program around called Freyja, which is Craig Finseth's
> version of emacs for the 95lx and the 100lx.  The 100lx version
> (same as 200lx) knows about screen size changes and adjusts itself
> properly for them, just like the built in apps.  He was one of the
> developers of the built in apps, if I remember right.
>
> I played with it some but I'm alergic to emacs and it made me sneaze
> too much.
>
> It's the supersite at
> http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl?dbname=freyja30.zip&UR
> L=http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/freyja30.zip.
>
> Interesting side note:  I thought I had a copy of this and while
> looking for it (I didn't find it) I ran spotted a 1.44 floppy with 2
> backups of my palmtop.  Yes, 2 on one floppy.  They're dated 8/29/92
> and 9/29/92.  The A: backup for 8/29 is only 347k.  I think that's
> from when I had a 512k sram card.  I think I paid $599 for that
> card.  What a huge capacity that was to carry in my pocket!  That
> was before flash was available, I think.  I was looking at a compact
> flash with 48 meg the other day for $119.  Times have changed.  :)
>
> I don't remember when I got the 95lx.  I didn't think it was that
> far back but I guess it must have been.
>
> Barry

Thanks, I'll give Freyja a try.  I remember I paid over $1200 for my 2MB

200LX with 5MB HP Flash card, connectivity pack, and AC adapter
years ago.  Maybe worth 200 bucks on Ebay nowadays.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Hi Evan,
>
> Welcome! :-)
>
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 21:23:25 -0600, Evan Person <eperson@MEDIAONE.NET> wrote:
>
> > 3. I have an old 100LX that used to work but died.  Am trying to figure
> > out cost to repair and if it would be worth it or not.
>
> Even if it was not worth repairing it, keep it or sell it to anyone who
> needs spare parts! You didn't write WHAT doesn't work anymore. Maybe it
> can easily be fixed. If not, such things like the screen or the housing
> or the kayboard can be still very interesting for some people (like me
> ;-) ).
>
> If you would like to get it repaired, Thaddeus (www.palmtoppaper.com)
> or, if you live in Europe, Thomas Rundel (www.rundel.net) are the
> companies who can repair it.
>
> GTX
> daniel

The screen started flickering and then gave out completely.  I would
sort of like to keep it and get it working because it has an unusual
serial number - US23400069.

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Hi Tom,

I'm in trouble with my Communicator 4.75 browser. When I clicked on the ebay
hyperlink below, nothing happened. I typed it out: nothing. I then tried a
Yahoo bookmark and other bookmarks: nothing. That was Saturday. Today I
reinstalled Comm. 4.75 from the previously downloaded files. It worked at
first on Yahoo, but not the next time I tried. So I can go nowhere :((  but
e-mail  works. Perhaps someone may know what the problem is.

I was wondering how your Libretto is going. I'll be in Florida from 30
December to 13 January. I have no idea what current prices are. It would be
nice if I could afford it and have it delivered to the Sarasota address :-))
Any suggestions?

Tom Salwasser wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I've got a very nice Libretto 50CT for sale with 32mb memory, a portable
> CD-ROM and an extra 4gb hard drive. Check it out at:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1201270191
>
> Best Regards,
> Tom Salwasser
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Hi Tom,
<p>I'm in trouble with my Communicator 4.75 browser. When I clicked on
the ebay hyperlink below, nothing happened. I typed it out: nothing. I
then tried a Yahoo bookmark and other bookmarks: nothing. That was Saturday.
Today I reinstalled Comm. 4.75 from the previously downloaded files. It
worked at first on Yahoo, but not the next time I tried. So I can go nowhere
:((&nbsp; but e-mail&nbsp; works. Perhaps someone may know what the problem
is.
<p>I was wondering how your Libretto is going. I'll be in Florida from
30 December to 13 January. I have no idea what current prices are. It would
be nice if I could afford it and have it delivered to the Sarasota address
:-)) Any suggestions?
<p>Tom Salwasser wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hello!
<p>I've got a very nice Libretto 50CT for sale with 32mb memory, a portable
<br>CD-ROM and an extra 4gb hard drive. Check it out at:
<p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1201270191">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1201270191</a>
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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:52:46 +0100
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Barry wrote:

> There's a program around called Freyja, which is Craig Finseth's
> version of emacs for the 95lx and the 100lx.  The 100lx version
> (same as 200lx) knows about screen size changes and adjusts itself
> properly for them, just like the built in apps.

There's even a SysMgr compliant version.

> He was one of the
> developers of the built in apps, if I remember right.

Really? first I heard of it, but that doesn't mean it isn't true of
course ;-)

> I played with it some but I'm alergic to emacs and it made me sneaze
> too much.

Freyja is not too bad as EMACS goes, it has built-in menu support (Lotus
123 style menus). I used Freyja quite a bit back when I only had a 95LX,
and was quite happy with it, but then the advantage of Freyja's 64x20
virtual screen mode (using a soft font) clearly outweighed any annoyances
EMACS might have...

> It's the supersite at
> http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl?dbname=freyja30.zip&UR
> L=http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/freyja30.zip.

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/search.pl?Query=freyja

(but admittedly that's not a direct link ;-)

> Interesting side note:  I thought I had a copy of this and while
> looking for it (I didn't find it) I ran spotted a 1.44 floppy with 2
> backups of my palmtop.  Yes, 2 on one floppy.  They're dated 8/29/92
> and 9/29/92.  The A: backup for 8/29 is only 347k.  I think that's
> from when I had a 512k sram card.  I think I paid $599 for that
> card.  What a huge capacity that was to carry in my pocket!  That
> was before flash was available, I think.  I was looking at a compact
> flash with 48 meg the other day for $119.  Times have changed.  :)

I had a 1meg 95LX and managed to fit not only various SysMgr utilities,
but also a few games, Notepad (a simple database program that featured
hyperlink-style, well, links), a programming language (Turbo Pascal 3, I
think, but I never used it much), and Derive v2.5/3.0 (which was a time
saver!) and still have room left over for my text files (albeit not so
much!). To think that now I have a 6MB 200LX and it's always full :-)

Speaking of the 95LX, does anyone (still) have some of the 95-specific
programs that were made years ago? more specifically, the soft-font
program that enabled a 80x25 soft text mode? (very slow, but still quite
an achievement). Most of the programs were only available on Compuserve,
unfortunately.


Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:54:03 -0600
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I recently decided to not swap my C:/F: drives on my 32MB 200LX.  The
initial reason had to do with the use of my Boot Commander program.  I
think I could have eventaully figured it out with swapping, but is was
the path of least resistance.

As I thought about it, I couldn't come up with any good reason why I
had been swapping in the first place.  Perhaps I am overlooking something.
I welcome any comments on or off list on this subject.  But so far, I
have not experienced any problems with a 2MB C: drive and a 32MB F:
drive.

-Chris

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Hi Richard,

Just point your browser to www.ebay.com
Once there, search for Libretto 50CT. You'll get about a dozen hits, one of
which is mine. I hope this helps.

I wish I could go to Sarasota  with you. We had a high if 1 degree today in
Minnesnowta. B-R-R-R-R! Oh well, the ice fisherman are happy, the ice will
be thick enough to drive on in a day or two. My parents live in Venice,
Florida, about 12 miles from Sarasota. I call it paradise whenever I go
visit them.

Let me know if you're still having trouble with eBay. Keep trying, it's
worth it.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser


Hi Tom,
I'm in trouble with my Communicator 4.75 browser. When I clicked on the ebay
hyperlink below, nothing happened. I typed it out: nothing. I then tried a
Yahoo bookmark and other bookmarks: nothing. That was Saturday. Today I
reinstalled Comm. 4.75 from the previously downloaded files. It worked at
first on Yahoo, but not the next time I tried. So I can go nowhere :((  but
e-mail  works. Perhaps someone may know what the problem is.

I was wondering how your Libretto is going. I'll be in Florida from 30
December to 13 January. I have no idea what current prices are. It would be
nice if I could afford it and have it delivered to the Sarasota address :-))
Any suggestions?

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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:03:45 +1300
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Wow!  Sent my palmtop off (with trembling heart) to Hal Goldstein
(www.palmtoppaper.com) for a repair job (four lost columns on the
screen, a loose hinge and a loose space bar key) only a week ago,
from Christchurch NZ.  AND ITS BACK ALREADY!!!!!  Cosily wrapped
up in a box full of foam chips and a bubble envelope and in fine
working condition, it looks new.

Hal,
Please pass on my thanks to your team.
Regards
Tony.



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Oh, well we're basking in hot sunny conditions down here, in
Christchurch NZ, whiling away the lazy sunny days watching the
Women's Cricket World Cup, clapping politely as the odd ball
whizzes through to the boundary and planning what we are doing
over Christmas break down at the beach...
Life's tough
Tony.

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Hi Richard,

Just point your browser to www.ebay.com
Once there, search for Libretto 50CT. You'll get about a dozen
hits, one of
which is mine. I hope this helps.

I wish I could go to Sarasota  with you. We had a high if 1 degree
today in
Minnesnowta. B-R-R-R-R! Oh well, the ice fisherman are happy, the
ice will
be thick enough to drive on in a day or two. My parents live in
Venice,
Florida, about 12 miles from Sarasota. I call it paradise whenever
I go
visit them.

Let me know if you're still having trouble with eBay. Keep trying,
it's
worth it.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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> Speaking of the 95LX, does anyone (still) have some of the 95-specific
> programs that were made years ago? more specifically, the soft-font
> program that enabled a 80x25 soft text mode? (very slow, but still quite
> an achievement). Most of the programs were only available on Compuserve,
> unfortunately.

I probably have most of them stored away somewhere.  I think that 80x25
was another of Dave Goodman's programs.  I remember he had a pretty
standard price of $10.00 for his programs.  I decided to register a
number of them and sent an extra $10.00 telling him I would pre-register
blindly for whatever his next program was - they were always great
little utilities! (G)

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> Hi Tom,
>
> I'm in trouble with my Communicator 4.75 browser. When I clicked on the ebay
> hyperlink below, nothing happened. I typed it out: nothing. I then tried a
> Yahoo bookmark and other bookmarks: nothing. That was Saturday. Today I
> reinstalled Comm. 4.75 from the previously downloaded files. It worked at
> first on Yahoo, but not the next time I tried. So I can go nowhere :((  but
> e-mail  works. Perhaps someone may know what the problem is.


Try going to Netscape Preferences under EDIT.  Then advanced.  Clean up
both the memory and disk cache.  (you will lose your history if that
matters to you, you can save it, I believe).  Close netscape.  Reboot
the computer and try again.

I have had periodic problems with Netscape like that.  I can do an
initial site visit but I can click on any links and it does not do
anything - just sits there.  Yet, a right click on a link and select
"open in new window"" will work.  Clearing the caches and rebooting
windows has generally fixed the problem.

Good luck.

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Some has inquired how to put pauses into dialing strings when using the
cell phone as the modem???  I know the Motorola phones allow pauses but
they use an internal key-combination to achieve that in the internal
phone book.

I gather but have not tried, that the "normal" commas for delay do not
necessarily work - or do they?

Any ideas?

Thanks.

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Although I don't have the 95lx anymore, I still have one program. This
is
the Podium Pal. This program was designed to be useful for public
speakers.
I only have the original disk, no manual. Anyone need this?

William E. Blankenship

"F. Kaufman" wrote:
>
> > Speaking of the 95LX, does anyone (still) have some of the 95-specific
> > programs that were made years ago? more specifically, the soft-font
> > program that enabled a 80x25 soft text mode? (very slow, but still quite
> > an achievement). Most of the programs were only available on Compuserve,
> > unfortunately.
>
> I probably have most of them stored away somewhere.  I think that 80x25
> was another of Dave Goodman's programs.  I remember he had a pretty
> standard price of $10.00 for his programs.  I decided to register a
> number of them and sent an extra $10.00 telling him I would pre-register
> blindly for whatever his next program was - they were always great
> little utilities! (G)
>
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Don,

> >Does that mean that you can start PE fine and you get the default =
*.pim
> >file loaded into PE ? If so issuing a Ctrl-Enter should start the PIM
> >application.
>
> That's exactly the problem. I start PE and get cur.pim (my default).
> CTRL-ENTER brings up the line mentioned above, then drops back to PE.

Since I don't know this error message I can't comment.

> Pumped memory up to 512K, dropped to DOS (no reboot), and reindexed. No =
luck.
>
> >> Just so I'm clear on this, I'm expecting a screen to appear similar =
to =3D
> >>the one that shows up if you start PIM by itself.
> >
> >Does that mean that PIM loads and displays fine if you call it directly
> >and not from within PE. If so I'm quite sure that your problem is a
> >memory problem. Another problem might be that the pointers in PE.CFG =
to =3D
> >the PIM application are not correct.
>
> Correct. Calling PIM.EXE from a DOS prompt started PIM fine. Once =
inside PE
> it doesn't want to work. Both CFG files look fine compared to the docs.

If you can start PIM directly then your PIM.CFG should be OK. However I
think there is a problem with your PE.CFG and/or with wrong index
directories. Check and if you don't find anything you are invited to
send me both your *.cfg files.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Chris Lott wrote:
> I recently decided to not swap my C:/F: drives on my 32MB 200LX.  The
> initial reason had to do with the use of my Boot Commander program.  I
> think I could have eventaully figured it out with swapping, but is was
> the path of least resistance.
>
> As I thought about it, I couldn't come up with any good reason why I
> had been swapping in the first place.  Perhaps I am overlooking something.
> I welcome any comments on or off list on this subject.  But so far, I
> have not experienced any problems with a 2MB C: drive and a 32MB F:
> drive.

Well by default the Sysmgr files go to c:\_dat so you've limited the
disk available unless you change them all.  (Can they all be changed in
one place?  ...or each separate app, ugh...)

When I first got my 32m 200LX I was tempted to not swap them but besides
the _DAT directory, I didn't like the way the LX drives were mapped to
my desktop via Laplink.  I ended up using the rdswap.exe and haven't
found any problems caused by it.  The very slight negative is that it
does add a tiny bit of confusion in the config.sys file as drive letters
change before and after rdswap.exe's execution.

I recommend using it if only for consistency with the rest of us.  :-)

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:16:25 +0200
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Subject:      ANN: Palmtop News Reader

With no relation whatsoever to the fact that Goin Postal is now freeware and
the latest version is now available on SUPER, (Well done Steve Lawson), I have
made some (hopefully) useful modifications to PNR:

-PNR was made smaller both in the executable code size and in the amount of
 data needed. This should give you more memory to read more mail in PNR.EXM

-PNR.EXM and PNR.EXE may use different editors.

-When running PNR.EXM, PNR.EXE, or PNRTI.EXE, a lock file is created in the
 spool directory to prevent you from running another application in the
 PNR "family", and trashing the index files.

- In PNR.EXM, when creating a reply or a new mail/news message, you can switch
 from the dialog box to the standard Sytem Manager applications by using the
 blue keys. You can now use the phone book application as an address book!

-When saving a message to a folder, you are prompted with a "Combo box" which
 has a drop down list of your existing folders.

-When saving messages to folders, PNR tracks which were "sent" messages and
 which were "received" messages. Replying to Sent messages is treated as
 resending them.


The latest version of PNR is available (with source code) at:

http://www.geocities.com/david_becher



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> The latest version of PNR is available (with source code) at:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/david_becher

I see you're using modified PAL libraries. Is this the graphics done in
assembly modifications you were talking about a while ago? I look forward
to seeing, and trying, these.

Regards,
Mike Kopplin

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Folks, D&A Software just released WWW.EXE Version 3.1.  Here is what's new:

New in 3.1:
- New serial port routines speed up serial communication 5-15%
- FastHUP now only drops the DTR (data terminal ready) signal,
   which causes most modems to hang up.
- Normal hanging up procedure is a bit slower but makes sure the
   phone is really hang up
- Changed http requests so that "empty page phenomenon" hopefully
   vanishes
- KeepAlive=1 in a setup section makes WWW/LX send LCP Echo packets
   whenever an echo packet from the peer is received. Some servers
   seem to not only want their LCP Echo packets answered but also
   want to receive echo packets from the peer.
   Use this if a session is suddenly aborted for no obvious reason, but
   always after a certain time.
- When a TCP packet with data was received while WWW/LX was waiting for
   sending (waiting for an ACK) the data of the packet was lost, causing
   resends
- After queries to the IAS (IrDA), the IrLMP connection is now closed
   (seems to have irritated some Siemens phones if the connection was
   left open)
- Prefix=none clears the dial prefix

Similar details on the webpage http://www.dasoft.com.

Also: Poosted a statement about HV, it capabilities and limitations, and
what we will and will not do with it...

Thank you.

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Has anybody tried, to boot with a 3.5''-floppy-adapter for
CompactFlash disks, possibly with an IBM-MicroDrive?

                K@Rdt
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Hi List,

Recently I discovered in the CFG file of POST/LX the option
"Japanes=3D1". Most likely that was the reason why I got so
many questions why Japanese font have to be installed when
opening my message for reading. No idea how that was
happening but you can imagine that I change it right away to
"Japanese=3D0". Maybe that was the solution too why some words
in the text were not showed on the screen afterall. Will see
now...

Furthermore I am puzzled by the fact how I can switch
something on that the reader can see the date of the "Sent:"
field. I experiment with it in sending some message to my
work address (and maybe you will discover it as well) and I
see that the field "Sent:" is empty. I am anxious to know if
anybody have any idea how to resolve this item.

Thanks in advance

__________________________________________
    o__       Harry Wellner
   _.>/)_
  (_) \(_)    Email: hwellner@mail.com
              Fax: +31 (0)20 - 883 55 63

Palmtop Power!--This email composed on a rugged HP200LX that
fits in your pocket!

Met vriendelijke groeten

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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:59:39 +1300
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Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:55:33 +1300 (NZST)

15h32m36s ago ...
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:22:57 -0700, Don Puscher wrote:

> >> I also tried uping the amount of memory in Setup>System>Advanced DOS =
=3D
> >field to 250K (was 128K). Didn't make any difference.

> unless I open PE with all available memory (pe |).

Don, sounds like you are trying to run from Sysmanager or from the dos
box *under* sysmanager.

Try MORE MENU A T ENTER

Then you will have a 600K or so DOS box.

Then everything will work.

If you want to run from sysmanager I recommend maxdos

Tony

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Hi,
I have a 1Mb unit, single speed, NO CRACKS!!, wiht data cable,
convertor which turns HP serial plug into standard 9-pin D,
unterminated serial lead.  Manual, box (bit ropey), licenses for WWW/LX
v3.  I'm looking for 120 UK pounds (approx $170) including postage (
securely wrapped...<g>)

Please reply to : hplx@srtgray.clara.co.uk

Regards,
Stuart

PS Unit is for sale as I couldn't get TopSpeed C to compile
successfully.  I'm going to try a Poqet next.

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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:26:43 -0500
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    A while back, a thread on this list discussed whether the COM
port on the 200LX could support an external modem effectively at
higher baud rates.  If you were using a slower modem, would using
a high speed modem speed things up significantly, or was the UART
on the 200LX the bottleneck?  The following can be considered a
data point, or a flight of fancy.

    Following a suggestion by Mack, the following is the result
of testing the speed of the serial line between a desktop computer
and the HP 200LX.  The "Filer" applications on the 200LX and in
the desktop Connectivity Pack software were used in the test.  DOS
6.2 on the desktop.

    Percent efficiency is defined as number of bytes transferee,
times ten, divided by the baud rate.  I.e. 120 characters per
second at 1,200 baud would be 100%.

    File transfer from P-90 to 200LX palmtop.

    Transfer is from hard drive D: to flash card A:.

    Large file "BAT865.ZIP" 713,647 bytes.

        baud  seconds Bytes/Sec  % efficiency
    115,200      222     3215    27.90%
     57,600      284     2513    43.63%
     38,400      347     2057    53.56%
     19,200      537     1329    69.22%

    Small file "BOB-CAR0.JPG" 71,228 bytes.

        baud  seconds Bytes/Sec  % efficiency
     19,200       55     1295    67.45%
      9,600       78      913    95.12%
      4,800      154      463    96.36%
      2,400      307      232    96.67%
      1,200      609      117    97.47%

    Transfer is from flash card A: to RAM drive G:.

    Large file "BAT865.ZIP" 713,647 bytes.

        baud  seconds Bytes/Sec  % efficiency
    115,200      210     3398    29.50%

    These results are not what I would expect if the UART was the
limiting factor.  There I would expect that above a certain baud
rate, there would be no change in the bytes per second.  So the
limiting factor would appear to be System Manager / DOS overhead.

Steve

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Saw the large RIM device the other day, and I know that it is a 386 based
machine. Anyone know if one can run DOS on it?. It would be a little more
compact than our trusty 200lx, and running DaSoft's PIM/PE wouldn't be so
bad. Hell, running Lotus Agenda would not be so bad.

Regards
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Stephan R. Novosad wrote:

>     Transfer is from hard drive D: to flash card A:.

>     Transfer is from flash card A: to RAM drive G:.

>     These results are not what I would expect if the UART was the
> limiting factor.  There I would expect that above a certain baud
> rate, there would be no change in the bytes per second.  So the
> limiting factor would appear to be System Manager / DOS overhead.
>
> Steve

Is it possible the read/write characteristics of the flash card (or
the routines that handle this) are involved?  Would you expect the
same results if you were to read and write from the palmtop RAM drive?

Ted

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<<
Has anybody tried, to boot with a 3.5''-floppy-adapter for
CompactFlash disks, possibly with an IBM-MicroDrive?
>>

If you're talking about booting the LX, I don't think this could be done.  The
PC bootstrap process (where a normal computer looks for the boot sector prior to
loading IO.SYS and MSDOS.SYS) on the LX is fixed in ROM so there's no way to
intercept it.  An LX boot will read the initial bootstrap directly off its ROM
area, before proceeding to the config.sys and autoexec.bat ... your first real
opportunity to fuss with the boot.

- Longden

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> Freyja is not too bad as EMACS goes,
> it has built-in menu support (Lotus 123
> style menus). I used Freyja quite a bit
> back when I only had a 95LX, and was
> quite happy with it, but then the advantage
> of Freyja's 64x20 virtual screen mode
> (using a soft font) clearly outweighed
> any annoyances EMACS might have...

The scroll in emacs always bothered me.  It would go down half a
page at a time.  I always found that bothersome.  Seems silly, I
know, but I just couldn't get used to it.

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> Speaking of the 95LX, does anyone (still)
> have some of the 95-specific programs
> that were made years ago? more specifically,
> the soft-font program that enabled a 80x25
> soft text mode? (very slow, but still quite an
> achievement). Most of the programs were only
> available on Compuserve, unfortunately.

I have a lot of them but they're scattered around with a lot of
other stuff and it's pretty hard to find any particular program.
Also a lot were stored on 5.25" floppies, many of which are no
longer readable.

I do still have a 5.25" drive.  When I had my computer made earlier
this year I insisted on that and it took them a week to find a used
one.  They couldn't find a new one.  Fortunately, the bios on this
motherboard still supports them.  I understand most don't anymore.

I'll take a look for that program.  Do you remember it's name?

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Hello List members

I was browsing through the latest iGo catalog and saw this wireless
modem card. It said it was operational with DOS platforms. Does anyone
know the current requirements or has anyone used it in their LX?
Thanks.

John

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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:36:00 -0800
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Longden Loo wrote:
> If you're talking about booting the LX, ..
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Hi

No, I mean booting from 'normal' PC (with floppy drive).


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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Hal,
Please pass on my thanks to your team.
Regards
Tony.>>

I will. Thank you.

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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:10:35 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Spider II wireless modem card
Comments: To: John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 12:21:12PM -0500, John Musielewicz wrote:
> I was browsing through the latest iGo catalog and saw this wireless
> modem card. It said it was operational with DOS platforms. Does anyone
> know the current requirements or has anyone used it in their LX?

i found these specs on http://www.antennas.com/s2specs.html


     Spider II PCMCIA CDPD Modem - Technical Specifications

     Physical Characteristics
     Dimensions:                 85.6 mm x 54 mm x 5 mm
     RF Connector:               SSMB Male
     Data Transfer
     Rate:                       19.2 kbps
     Modulation:                 .5 GMSK
     Encryption:                 RC4
     System Requirements
     Slot:                       PC Card Type II
     Operating System:           Windows 95/98, NT and CE
     Electrical Power
     DC Voltage:                 5V Only
     Full Duplex:                800 mA (max), 650 mA (typical)
     Listen Mode:                200 mA (typical)
     Sleep Mode:                 80 mA (max), 70 mA (typical)
     Environment
     Temperature:                0=B0 C to 55=B0 C
     Storage Temperature:        -20=B0 C to 85=B0 C
     Humidity:                   95% non-condensing
     Communication Interface
     PCMCIA:                     16550 emulation
     Host Protocol:              SLIP
     RF Protocol:                CDPD 1.1
     AT Commands:                PCCA STD 101 ANNEX L (CDPD AT Command Set)
     Radio Performance
     TX Frequency:               824.01 - 849.97 MHz
     RX Frequency:               869.01 - 894.97 MHz
     Frequency Stability:        2.5 ppm
     Sensitivity:                -111 dBm
     RSSI Accuracy:              6 dB
     Dynamic Range:              60 dB
     Transmit Power:             600 m W
     Mode:                       full duplex
     Certification
     FCC Part 15 and 22 approved
     Part Number
     Spider II (Embedded):       CDP-0111-04-003
     Spider II (End-user):       CDP-0111-04-001

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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:48:51 -0500
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              John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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>      Electrical Power
>      DC Voltage:                 5V Only
>      Full Duplex:                800 mA (max), 650 mA (typical)
>      Listen Mode:                200 mA (typical)
>      Sleep Mode:                 80 mA (max), 70 mA (typical)

Thanks, it looks like it uses more current than the pcmcia port can
provide. Too bad.

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At 12/12/00 -0500, Harry Wellner wrote:

The Japanese=1 is an old item, so I won't comment..

 >Furthermore I am puzzled by the fact how I can switch
>something on that the reader can see the date of the "Sent:"
>field. I experiment with it in sending some message to my
>work address (and maybe you will discover it as well) and I
>see that the field "Sent:" is empty. I am anxious to know if
>anybody have any idea how to resolve this item.

But I am not sure I understand what you mean here...

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Chris
Thanks for the alert.
I believe I'll try the ISA reader in the new computer if I ever get it
assembled.
Come to think of it as long as it's not assembled the ISA card will work
as well as the PCI card...

But seriously I have to think that a PCI card would manage the IRQs
better although if it won't read cards that's small comfort. I guess the
moral is that there is a lot of variability between machines/OSs and
peripherals.
Can anyone reccomend a PCI based (internal) ATA card reader that is not
excessivly finicky?  Extra points for WIN98 compatability.

I was trying the ISA based swapbox with a pentium 90 running WIN95b. I
had IRQ problems but that may not have been entirely the card readers
fault, i had so many things added on that I had IRQ problems with a lot
of things.

I will report on the ISA readers performance once I get the new computer
together.

--

Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question

>Subject: Re: PC card reader, ISA vs PCI +Nwtbeam IR LAN questions
>
>Andrew:
>
>Let me give you some fair warning.  I, too, had been using the SCM
>Swapbox, ISA version, for over a year with no problems.  Recently, my
>computer died and I got a new motherboard.  I did not have the foresight
>that you did, and ended up with a PCI-only MB.  No problem, I thought.
>I can just buy a new interface card.  Wrong.  The PCI version of the
>SwapBox is a complete new design, even the PCMCIA cradle.  You have to
>buy a whole new SwapBox unit.  Well, I decided to bite the bullet, given
>how pleased I was with the ISA version.  When the new one arrived, I
>installed it and couldn't get it to work right.  After a few phone calls
>to the Tech Support at the distributor (Envoy), I was able to get it to
>work partially - it could read SanDisk flash disks, but not Simple Tech
>one, at the time my main Palmtop FLASH disk.  To me this was useless.
>They pointed the finger at Simple Tech, and I tried to contact them.
>So far, no response.  I'm in the process of getting an RMA so I can
>return it, since it seems to only read certain FLASH disks.  I had no
>such problems with the ISA version, which appeared to recognize any
>card I could put in it.
>
>-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:10:19 -0600
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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I've been getting helpful information about the ACE drivers from several
list members.  But there is one question that is bugging me.  My original
installation, back when I used the ACE FLASH disk, had two drivers,
ACECARD.COM and ACEDRV.SYS.  The manual that I was kindly sent a copy of
also instructs you to use them both.  But the information I get from Mack,
and later on from SanDisk, only mentions ACECARD.  (actually, an apparently
newer version called ACECARD3.COM).

What is ACEDRV.SYS?  Is it necessary?  What did/does it do?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:00:51 +0000
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Hi Tony and Tom,

Tony Kan wrote:

> Oh, well we're basking in hot sunny conditions down here, in
> Christchurch NZ, whiling away the lazy sunny days watching the
> Women's Cricket World Cup,...
> Life's tough
> Tony.

Tony,
Life is just a bed of roses here. Today I struggled up the road against
rain and gale gusts that threatened to smash my umbrella.  You are a big
help :-))

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf
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> Tom Salwasser
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 December 2000 12:49
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: FLUFF:OT:FS: Libretto 50CT For Sale
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> Just point your browser to www.ebay.com
> Once there, search for Libretto 50CT. You'll get about a dozen

Thanks Tom, the browser is working again, thanks to F. Kaufman.
I saw the Libretto, registered and made a bid. I hope we do business.

> I wish I could go to Sarasota  with you. We had a high if 1 degree
> today in
> Minnesnowta. B-R-R-R-R! Oh well, the ice fisherman are happy, the
> ice will
> be thick enough to drive on in a day or two. My parents live in
> Venice,
> Florida, about 12 miles from Sarasota. I call it paradise whenever
> I go
> visit them.

Lucky people! We were in Port Charlotte last February. It was like the
hottest Summer weather we ever get here in Ireland.

Regards,

Richard

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The right click did it. I'll clear the caches if I get it again.

Many thanks,

Richard

"F. Kaufman" wrote:

> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I'm in trouble with my Communicator 4.75 browser. When I clicked on the ebay
> > hyperlink below, nothing happened. I typed it out: nothing. I then tried a
> > Yahoo bookmark and other bookmarks: nothing. That was Saturday. Today I
> > reinstalled Comm. 4.75 from the previously downloaded files. It worked at
> > first on Yahoo, but not the next time I tried. So I can go nowhere :((  but
> > e-mail  works. Perhaps someone may know what the problem is.
>
> Try going to Netscape Preferences under EDIT.  Then advanced.  Clean up
> both the memory and disk cache.  (you will lose your history if that
> matters to you, you can save it, I believe).  Close netscape.  Reboot
> the computer and try again.
>
> I have had periodic problems with Netscape like that.  I can do an
> initial site visit but I can click on any links and it does not do
> anything - just sits there.  Yet, a right click on a link and select
> "open in new window"" will work.  Clearing the caches and rebooting
> windows has generally fixed the problem.
>
> Good luck.
>
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Subject:      Re: Booting wiht CF-floppy-adapter?
Comments: To: Klaus Reinhardt <K.Rdt@TU-BERLIN.DE>
In-Reply-To:  <3A365875.1E8A@TU-Berlin.DE>

I have never seen a "floppy adapter" for a CF card, the only ones I have seen are for the smaller multimedia cards. If you
have seen a CF floppy adapter I would really like to know where so I could possibly buy one. Since CF is a subset of the
PCMCIA standard and the CF flash ram card looks like an ATA hard drive I would be supprised if you could use a floppy
adaptor with one and I really doubt that one would be bootable even if it existed since they require drivers to make them
work which would not be available before booting.

Pete


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> Hi
>
> Has anybody tried, to boot with a 3.5''-floppy-adapter for
> CompactFlash disks, possibly with an IBM-MicroDrive?
>
>                 K@Rdt
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Peter W. Borders

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> > Freyja is not too bad as EMACS goes,
> > it has built-in menu support (Lotus 123
> > style menus). I used Freyja quite a bit


Freyja is the great fertilitygoddess of the Vikings.

She was worshipped throughout the whole Scandinavia.

Erotic uninhibited liberation is often an attribute of female
goddesses of fertility,as was the case with Freyja.

Therefore Freyja was a great abonimation for the christians.

Freyja was also the most knowledgeable of sorcery,that sorcery
the Vikings called sejd.

The sejd-still practiced and teached today by worshipers of the
Aesir cult (the old norse religion)-is based on the conception
of the remote effect of the soul,its potential to free from the
body and put into effect the will of the sorcer.

The Aesir cult is not dead,luckily the christians didn't manage
to exterminate it.


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I don't think that a floppy adapter is even possible for CF
because CF type I is thicker than a floppy. Also the only floppy
adapters that I am aware of are for Smart Media (SM). They use
the floppy interface in a non-standard way, and require a driver
on the host computer to work, so you could not boot from them
either. Bryan


"Peter W. Borders" wrote:
>
> I have never seen a "floppy adapter" for a CF card, the only ones I have seen are for the smaller multimedia cards. If you
> have seen a CF floppy adapter I would really like to know where so I could possibly buy one. Since CF is a subset of the
> PCMCIA standard and the CF flash ram card looks like an ATA hard drive I would be supprised if you could use a floppy
> adaptor with one and I really doubt that one would be bootable even if it existed since they require drivers to make them
> work which would not be available before booting.
>
> Pete
>
> On 12 Dec 2000, at 8:55, Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
>
> > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
> > Hi
> >
> > Has anybody tried, to boot with a 3.5''-floppy-adapter for
> > CompactFlash disks, possibly with an IBM-MicroDrive?
> >
> >                 K@Rdt
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> >
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>
> Peter W. Borders
>
> Information Technology Specialist
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Bryan Biggers wrote:
>
> I don't think that a floppy adapter is even possible for CF
> because CF type I is thicker than a floppy. Also the only floppy
> adapters that I am aware of are for Smart Media (SM).
----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hi

Thanks all for the comments. To day I had another look at the
store and wondered that indeed there are only (non bootable, 'cause
only under Win* usable) floppy-adapters for SM.

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>Freyja is the great fertilitygoddess of the Vikings.

Friday is the day of Freyja.
In Swiss German we say Fritig.
Some Germans think it means free-day. But it is Freitag (Freyjatag).

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> I recently decided to not swap my C:/F: drives on my 32MB 200LX.

I swap them because I have one program (a Solitair card game) that =
insists on
running from drive C:.  It would take up more space than I would like on =
a 1.4
Meg drive.  Also, when I moved for an 8 Meg palmtop to a 32 Meg, it was =
easier
to move the 7.4 Meg of C: drive programs to drive C: again.  All the =
other
programs were on drive A:, so it was the same amount of work to move them =
to C:
as it would have been to move them to F:.

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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:21:29 -0800
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My solution is a MicroSolutions parallel port 5.25 inch
drive.

Barry wrote:
> I do still have a 5.25" drive.  When I had my computer made earlier
> this year I insisted on that and it took them a week to find a used
> one.  They couldn't find a new one.  Fortunately, the bios on this
> motherboard still supports them.  I understand most don't anymore.

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Date:         Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:59:43 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> Freyja is the great fertilitygoddess of the Vikings.
snip

You could at least have put FLUFF in the subject field...



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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:41:04 -0800
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Let me call the Pope see what he can do to please you ;  )
Probably because they didn't have gold or other spices to conquer ?
Or afraid of their ferociousness ? (Beauty of the South, Strenght of
the North)
Greetings from the East ... ,',

--- Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE> wrote:
> > > Freyja is not too bad as EMACS goes,
> > > it has built-in menu support (Lotus 123
> > > style menus). I used Freyja quite a bit
>
>
> Freyja is the great fertilitygoddess of the Vikings.
>
> She was worshipped throughout the whole Scandinavia.
>
> Erotic uninhibited liberation is often an attribute of female
> goddesses of fertility,as was the case with Freyja.
>
> Therefore Freyja was a great abonimation for the christians.
>
> Freyja was also the most knowledgeable of sorcery,that sorcery
> the Vikings called sejd.
>
> The sejd-still practiced and teached today by worshipers of the
> Aesir cult (the old norse religion)-is based on the conception
> of the remote effect of the soul,its potential to free from the
> body and put into effect the will of the sorcer.
>
> The Aesir cult is not dead,luckily the christians didn't manage
> to exterminate it.
>
>
> Lars/Sweden



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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:46:55 -0800
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Can this thing be used as a driver for the IBM Microdrive (with an
external Power Adapter eg: DoubleSlot or Greystone etc...

-----Original Message-----
I've been getting helpful information about the ACE drivers from
several list members.  But there is one question that is bugging me.
My original installation, back when I used the ACE FLASH disk, had two
drivers, ACECARD.COM and ACEDRV.SYS.  The manual that I was kindly sent
a copy of also instructs you to use them both.  But the information I
get from Mack, and later on from SanDisk, only mentions ACECARD.
(actually, an apparently newer version called ACECARD3.COM).

What is ACEDRV.SYS?  Is it necessary?  What did/does it do?


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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:36:11 -0600
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Barry wrote:

> > Freyja is not too bad as EMACS goes,
> > it has built-in menu support (Lotus 123
> > style menus). I used Freyja quite a bit
> > back when I only had a 95LX, and was
> > quite happy with it, but then the advantage
> > of Freyja's 64x20 virtual screen mode
> > (using a soft font) clearly outweighed
> > any annoyances EMACS might have...
>
> The scroll in emacs always bothered me.  It would go down half a
> page at a time.  I always found that bothersome.  Seems silly, I
> know, but I just couldn't get used to it.
>
> Barry

I don't know about Freyja but you can configure Micro Emacs
to scroll down as little as a line at a time if you want.  I don't
remember the exact command to do this but I remember reading
about it in the documentation.

Micro Emacs has a lot of functionality for its size without
being the bloated pig that full-blown Emacs is.

I find Micro Emacs very useful for taking a text document that is
based on an 80-character (or more) line and converting it to the
palmtop's 64-character line.  It will take an HTML document
that has few hard carriage returns and convert it to something
with 64-character lines that I can use.  I also use it together
with a program called PFM that is very useful.  PFM is a
superb program for DOS.  It really speeds things up.
And it runs fine on a 200LX.  I find that in a lot of HTML
documents all I want is the text.  If I wrap the lines to
64 characters I can use PFM to view the files and read
them easily without losing the capability of also viewing
them with an HTML viewer if I want.  I can also grep
for things without getting one line that fills up a whole
screen because it is a really long line.  If I have a lot of
files I want to wrap to 64 characters I use a small C
program I wrote called "wrap" to do this.  It compiles
with Turbo C 2.0, which I have running on my 200LX.

Those 32MB and 64MB 200LX upgrades really look
tempting...

Evan

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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:30:25 +0200
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Mike Kopplin writes:
> I see you're using modified PAL libraries. Is this the graphics done in
> assembly modifications you were talking about a while ago? I look forward
> to seeing, and trying, these.

I hope to put them up *real soon*


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Date:         Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:37:21 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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For those who couldn't resist to read this message ;-)

I've just changed my whole email setup (forwarding, filtering etc.) and
now I'm wondering why I don't get messages from the list anymore.
So I'd like to test if the list is just not busy at the moment or if i
have a problem with my setup.

Sorry for the bandwidth. GTX daniel

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pcmcia type 3 hard drive 170Mb $80
All prices are AU$
AU$=US$/2    :(

xircom ethernet+28.8 modem $50

home free, wirelesse network PCI+PCMCIA $190

pcmcia card interface for desktop
(isa+3.5 slot) (1 type 3 + 1 type 2) $150

pcmcia card interface for desktop PC260 (isa)
from Actiontec (2 type 2 or 1 type 3) $120

Maxlite pocket modem 14.4 (work on battery) $40

port replicator for libretto 100/110CT $150

power supply for libretto 100/110CT $120

pcmcia 33.6 modem $50

compact flash card reader/writer
on parallel port still in the box $70

pcmcia type 3 hard drive 170Mb $80

accton 2216 pcmcia network card $120
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Date:         Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:23:41 -0800
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Folks,

Would the acecard drivers allow a 100lx to see my 40 meg
sandisk card?

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Date:         Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:50:59 -0500
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Laust wrote:

>
> > Freyja is the great fertilitygoddess of the Vikings.
> snip
>
> You could at least have put FLUFF in the subject field...

Why?

If I had had a program named Astarte for example,she was a
fertilitygoddess of the babylonians,it had been interesting to
get some lines of information about here.


So it wasn't _that_ OT.



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Goeldi hat geschrieben

> >Freyja is the great fertilitygoddess of the Vikings.
>
> Friday is the day of Freyja.
> In Swiss German we say Fritig.
> Some Germans think it means free-day. But it is Freitag (Freyjatag).


Yes the Germans had about the same pantheon as the Vikings.

In Swedish "Tag" is "dag",and Freitag in  swedish ist Fredag.

Thursday is Thor's day,Donnerstag in german.If I recall my
german right,Donner is thunder in english??




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Good morning,
is it possible to use interlink/interserver between the HP200 and a PC
with FAT32 without jamming any of the two file systems?
Thanks in advance and regards

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Hello,

I seem to remember discussion of a technique to fool windoze 9x into
thinking a directory on a hard drive is a cd-rom? I have some software
(Street Atlas 5) that insists on the cd being loaded, even though I have
plenty of hard drive space. I've copied the cd to the hard drive and tried
playing with the sa5.ini file to no avail. TIA

Best Regards,
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I am trying to define a Subset (F6 option) on a database created by=20
myself,  selecting all records that match a condition where a date field=20
(EndDate) is less than today's date.

I tried the following SSL statment (EndDate < {13-Dec-2000} ) and it=20
worked fine.   Is there a function returning today's date that can be used =

on SSL statment?  I mean something like  (EndDate > {@TODAY()} )=20

Thanks for your attention,
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There was a package from IMSI called CD Copier Pro that does this job.  It
can even compress the contents, copy complete audio disks to your hard
drive, and let you assign multiple letters as virtual CDROM drives.  You can
mount and dismount images into these virtual drives with software.

I am using this program on my Windows 98SE system at home and it works fine
with Street Atlas 6 and a number of other packages (although it would not
work with the Microsoft Encarta CDs.

IMSI doesn't appear to offer this product anymore (I searched their website
at www.imsisoft.com).  But there is another vendor with a similar product:
Far Stone Technology sells Virtual Drive 2000 for $35.00 and it's
downloadable from their website at
http://www.farstone.com/env20/products/vd.asp.

Alan

>From: Tom Salwasser mailto:TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
>Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:56 AM
>...
I seem to remember discussion of a technique to fool windoze 9x into
thinking a directory on a hard drive is a cd-rom? I have some software
(Street Atlas 5) that insists on the cd being loaded, even though I have
plenty of hard drive space. I've copied the cd to the hard drive and tried
playing with the sa5.ini file to no avail.

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<<
is it possible to use interlink/interserver between the HP200 and a PC
with FAT32 without jamming any of the two file systems?
Thanks in advance and regards
>>

I do that on my Omnibook 800CT, configured for FAT32, but interlnk has to be run
from outside windows and you have to be wary about blundering over the long
filenames.  This is an issue more with long filename support, which is also true
if you're running Win9x under FAT16.

I keep a directory on the Win9x system where I "stage" files for transfer (like
Briefcase) in order to minimize the danger to the rest of the Win95 directories.

FAT32 isn't an issue at the level where you copy files.  It mostly gives the
lower level file handling functions the ability to address more clusters and
hence support bigger drives and smaller clusters .... but files are typically
handled (copied) without user regard for the cluster sizes.  For example, you
can copy from a floppy disk to the hard drive, and the same file very likely has
different cluster sizes on both media, but the OS handles that level of detail
for you.

As long as you don't use your interlnk connection to run Norton or some other
FAT or directory sort program on the FAT32 system you should be fine.  Just
treat the FAT32 system like you were going to take a banana from a 300 pound
gorilla ... very carefully.

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> PS Unit is for sale as I couldn't get TopSpeed
> C to compile successfully.  I'm going to try a
> Poqet next.

I'm not familiar with TopSpeed C but there are a number of C
compilers that work just fine on the 200lx.  I've used Microsoft C
5.0 and 6.0, Borland's Turboc C through version 2.0 and Turbo C++
through version 2.  Mix Power C works just fine.  PCC works fine and
is small enough if you don't have a flash card.  And there were
others.

I've also used Qbasic, Quick Basic, Power Basic, Forth, Pascal,
Prolog, Lisp, Logo and a couple of others on the 200lx.  No I don't
know all those languages but I've tried them out.

Basically I've never had any compiler of any language fail to work
on the 200lx except those that require a 386 cpu.  And those won't
work on a Poqet either.

A number of the compilers I've just mentioned are readilly available
for download from the internet and are free.  Power C is available
for sale from Mix for $19.95.  It's still being updated.  Turbo C
can be downloaded from Borland, free.  I can't remember if Turbo C++
is there, too, but it's easy to find in any case.

So what's the big deal about Top Speed C?  And do you know why it
won't work?

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> Erotic uninhibited liberation is often an attribute of female
> goddesses of fertility,as was the case with Freyja.

I wish I had known that.  I'd have put more energy into using
Freyja.

I do remember a time when my 95lx seemed like a pretty sexy machine.
I wonder if that was while Freyja was installed.

Maybe I should give the 200lx version a try.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:59:25 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> > You could at least have put FLUFF in the subject field...
>
> Why?
>
> If I had had a program named Astarte for example,she was a
> fertilitygoddess of the babylonians,it had been interesting to
> get some lines of information about here.

Interesting perhaps, but still fluff. It has nothing to do with the
LX. It's not as if using the editor is any different when you know who
Freyja is/was either...


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Subject:      Re: FLUFF:OT: Fake CD-ROM
Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> I seem to remember discussion of a technique to fool windoze 9x into
> thinking a directory on a hard drive is a cd-rom? I have some software=

> (Street Atlas 5) that insists on the cd being loaded, even though I=20=

have

With SA5 you can transfer map information from the CD to the hard=20
drive in order to run without the CD. You can select only those areas=20=

of interest so that you can adjust between the maps and drive space=20
available.

I forget just where the function is, but I have used it to put local=20=

maps on a Libretto so I can run SA5 without needing to attach the CD=20=

Rom.

--=20
Bryan
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Date:         Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:26:00 -0800
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I have an ACE DoubleFlash 40MB (compressed with Stacker) card that uses the
ACECARD.SYS driver but not ACECARD.COM. The drivers (both ACECARD.COM and
ACECARD.SYS) reside on the uncompressed portion of the card (~75k) along
with config.sys. I don't know what ACECARD.SYS does, but when I REM'd it out
of config.sys, I received an error message during boot and could no longer
access the compressed portion of the card.

Here is the contents of config.sys on my ACE card:

device=a:\spd31.exe
device-a:\rdt2t.exe
device=a:\rdswap.exe
device=a:\acedrv.sys
device=a:\stacker.com a: /p=0
device=c:\tremm\tremm.exe
shell=command /p
files=30
buffers=20
lastdrive=m

Hope this helps,

Tom
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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 12:10 PM
Subject: ACECARD and ACEDRV


> I've been getting helpful information about the ACE drivers from several
> list members.  But there is one question that is bugging me.  My original
> installation, back when I used the ACE FLASH disk, had two drivers,
> ACECARD.COM and ACEDRV.SYS.  The manual that I was kindly sent a copy of
> also instructs you to use them both.  But the information I get from Mack,
> and later on from SanDisk, only mentions ACECARD.  (actually, an
apparently
> newer version called ACECARD3.COM).
>
> What is ACEDRV.SYS?  Is it necessary?  What did/does it do?

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> I have an ACE DoubleFlash 40MB (compressed with Stacker) card that uses the
> ACECARD.SYS driver but not ACECARD.COM. The drivers (both ACECARD.COM and
> ACECARD.SYS) reside on the uncompressed portion of the card (~75k) along
> with config.sys. I don't know what ACECARD.SYS does, but when I REM'd it out
> of config.sys, I received an error message during boot and could no longer
> access the compressed portion of the card.
>
> Here is the contents of config.sys on my ACE card:

Tom:

Thanks, for the interesting data point.  I'll do some experiments like
you did, and see if I can narrow it down to needing only one or the
other.  Problem I see, is that that I have only been referred to the
ACECARD3.COM by knowledgable people recently.  Maybe one can use
one or the other, that is the .COM is a command-line version of the
.SYS driver?


-Chris

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Sergio Marra wrote:
> is it possible to use interlink/interserver between the HP200 and a PC
> with FAT32 without jamming any of the two file systems?
----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hi

I had the same prob solved: The partition with the server has
to be less than 640MB (or so).

                K@Rdt
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> Hello,
>
> I seem to remember discussion of a technique to fool windoze 9x into
> thinking a directory on a hard drive is a cd-rom? I have some software
> (Street Atlas 5) that insists on the cd being loaded, even though I have
> plenty of hard drive space. I've copied the cd to the hard drive and tried
> playing with the sa5.ini file to no avail. TIA

Did you know that Delorme comes with an EXTRACTOR module.  If would be
under Start/programs/delorme - IF YOU INSTALLED the Extractor.

And it allows you to copy the data from entire states or just certain
counties as well as parts of the interstate highway system.

The only pain with it it - you have to do all your extractions at that
one time if you don't pull all of the states.  If you want a different
subset, you have to re-extract the states you have and then the new
states and the old is overwritten.  I have got around that by copying
that mapdata subdirectory and created my own subsets.  If you copy the
entire cd with extractor this would not be an issue.

Delorme is considerate enough to realize some folks don't have a cd on
their laptop but might want some maps with them!

The other message on this thread - I don't know about Encarta but was
able to move their old cinermania and the original reference books to my
harddrive but it took some finagling!  It was not that easy and required
some subdirectory within subdirectory reordering!!!!

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>>Is there a function returning today's date that can be used
on SSL statment?  I mean something like  (EndDate > {@TODAY<<

Sorry, no such functions are provided in the SS language.

.ed.

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              Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
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>Is there a function returning today's date that can be used
>on SSL statment?  I mean something like  (EndDate > {@TODAY})

>>Sorry, no such functions are provided in the SS language.

Also doesn't seem to be any wildcard ability for partial strings
within a field.
There is for all/any field, but not for a specific field.

For example, I can subset based on the presence of the digit '1'
within a string 'word', in ANY field, by using (*"1"), but I don't
seem to be able to restrict this to a specific field.

Anybody done this successfully?

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Date:         Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:19:37 -0800
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Comments: To: Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
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I think the # operator does that, no? "Field contains string value, e.g.
Phone##"(503)"."  I read it to say that any record with phone field
containing the string "(503)" will be selected - no matter what the _rest_
of the field contains. Id this what you wanted to do?

At 12/14/00 +1300, you wrote:
> >Is there a function returning today's date that can be used
> >on SSL statment?  I mean something like  (EndDate > {@TODAY})
>
> >>Sorry, no such functions are provided in the SS language.
>
>Also doesn't seem to be any wildcard ability for partial strings
>within a field.
>There is for all/any field, but not for a specific field.
>
>For example, I can subset based on the presence of the digit '1'
>within a string 'word', in ANY field, by using (*"1"), but I don't
>seem to be able to restrict this to a specific field.
>
>Anybody done this successfully?
>
>Cheers, Roger
>
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Comments: To: Carlos A Rodrigues Alves <cara@ONS.ORG.BR>
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Try this in SSL - Fn-Date - it will splat the date based on the setting you=
=20
have for date display.  You may have to adapt your SSL statement each time=
=20
using a Macro, but I have used one such item and it worked just fine.  The=
=20
macro edits the SSL statement, splashes the date in the right spot, deletes=
=20
the previous date, saves, and so on...

Good luck.

I had an elaborate macro that would go to a database, pick up all my to dos=
=20
which were incomplete, and all the todos for the next week, and copy them=20
into the note filed on an even today in the appt book. I calculated today=20
as above, and next week by using the Calculator application called Dates=20
Calculation, and all that went into the subset each time, and it worked.

Watch for the date format, and for field sizes in terms of date 3/April vs=
=20
15/April...



At 12/13/00 -0200, you wrote:
>I am trying to define a Subset (F6 option) on a database created by
>myself,  selecting all records that match a condition where a date field
>(EndDate) is less than today's date.
>
>I tried the following SSL statment (EndDate < {13-Dec-2000} ) and it
>worked fine.   Is there a function returning today's date that can be used
>on SSL statment?  I mean something like  (EndDate > {@TODAY()} )
>
>Thanks for your attention,
>carlos
>
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D
>  CARLOS A. RODRIGUES ALVES
>  e-mail#1: cara@ons.org.br       Tel.: (21) 203-9823
>  e-mail#2: cara@ig.com.br        Fax.: (21) 203-9414
>
>  ONS - Operador Nacional do Sistema El=E9trico
>  Escrit=F3rio Central
>  Rua da Quitanda 196 - 14o.andar - Centro
>  Rio de Janeiro - RJ
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D
>
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Avi wrote:
>>I think the # operator does that, no? "Field contains string value, e.g.
>>Phone##"(503)"."  I read it to say that any record with phone field
>>containing the string "(503)" will be selected - no matter what the
_rest_
>>of the field contains. Id this what you wanted to do?

Perfectly true, as clearly stated in the manual, but it only seems to
work (for me anyway) if '503' is a 'word' standing on its own in the
field.  i.e. if the string '1150311' exists in the field, that record
will NOT be selected.  It will be selected OK if the field contains
something like '1234 503 56789'

Please prove me wrong. I'd appreciate it :-p

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Date:         Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:48:47 -0800
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Comments: To: Roger Whitmarsh <lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM>
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It is not about proving anything, but to make the thing do your bidding :) ...

I took the 123HELP.GDB and am now looking for all records which contain the
string "calc" in the Help field. Works...

I pressed F6, DEFINE, GENERAL (to get to SSL), and in the SSL statement
field typed this:

Help#"calc"

(Make sure the spelling of field name is accurate)

then F10, give it a name, then press OK.

I get 25 items out of 179, and I can confirm that each has the string
"calc" in the Help field.


At 12/14/00 +1300, you wrote:
>Avi wrote:
> >>I think the # operator does that, no? "Field contains string value, e.g.
> >>Phone##"(503)"."  I read it to say that any record with phone field
> >>containing the string "(503)" will be selected - no matter what the
>_rest_
> >>of the field contains. Id this what you wanted to do?
>
>Perfectly true, as clearly stated in the manual, but it only seems to
>work (for me anyway) if '503' is a 'word' standing on its own in the
>field.  i.e. if the string '1150311' exists in the field, that record
>will NOT be selected.  It will be selected OK if the field contains
>something like '1234 503 56789'
>
>Please prove me wrong. I'd appreciate it :-p
>
>Cheers, Roger
>
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Date:         Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:24:03 -0600
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Subject:      FLUFF: OT: FA: Selling some gadgets.....
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Nothing LX-related *YET* ... keep looking, there may be something soon ...

Just starting to list some things on eBay, incl. a Handspring Visor, an MP3
Player or two and a Nikon CoolPix 950 at:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=tim-gadgetg
uy&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25

Thank you all for your indulgence .... and, the above link should continue
to increase (its listings), as I keep writing up my items that're
forsale......

Good luck, to any who want to bid (email my off-eBay and we can work out
exact shipping),

--tim

PS. If nothing else, list-members' browsings will help bolster my
hit-counters......

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Date:         Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:13:38 +0100
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From:         Michael Berrier <m_berrier@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: MS project on the 200lx
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tony,
what / from whom is time line ?? Is that compatible to any win software. The
trick is to find a project managenment software which is easy to handle on
our 200LX as well as on the desktop / notebook and / or under windows. What
is the solution. Your / any help is appreciated Thanks i a !! Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
Tony Kan
Sent: Donnerstag, November 23, 2000 13.29 Uhr
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: MS project on the 200lx


I use Timeline 1.0 that can be used on your desktop and on your
palmtop at once.  The only disadvantage is that it doesn't export
to MS Project which is what most people use.  Almost bought MS
Project for DOS on ebay but got called out of town unexpectedly
and missed the deadline on the auction.  Ah well, another chance
will come up I'm sure.

I have tried using pjt2001 the project manager that is system
manager compliant but I haven't been able to figure out all the
calculations that it does so it is little more than a way of
creating a gantt chart of items from the to-do applicationanyone
out there who might have had some success on this?.

Another way of skinning the cat:  buy a later version of Timeline
for DOS that might export to an .MPX format so that I can still
liaise with MS Project users.

HTH
Tony.

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Sent: Thursday, 16 November 2000 03:39
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: MS project on the 200lx


Greetings,

Last month there was some discussion of using MS Project on the
200lx.
Programs that would convert from and to were mentioned. Project
Kickstrt,
Timeline, and earlier DOS versions on MS project were mentioned.

Is anyone using  MS Project or another program that will convert
back and
forth onto a 200lx?

thanks

Joe Buford

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I write C programes for the Psion Series 3 /Workabout machines, and the
SDK relies on TopSpeed (it has a particulalry small "small model" and
is scrupulous about register use - qalso the header files are optimised
for it).  The problems  I have I posted a while ago - notably the damn
thing won't compile!  (returns disk not ready or some such error, and
locks up the HP)  It could be a problem with the flash card I am using,
but I don't get the same problem using it in my laptop, so I think it
is an HP/power supply problem.  Also the screen is just a little too
small for my needs, and the TopSpeed colour scheme doesn't work on the
B&W, no matter which mode I use (swapping with ON+*)  Either the text
is clear, or the menus, never both :(

As  I don't use it as a pocket machine (I use my Psion 3mx for diary
etc.), I just wanted a very portable DOS machine. I'm going to try the
Poqet, which has a bigger screen and better (looking) keyboard.  I'll
still lurk on HPLX-L however,as the DOS support is excellent (despite
the fluff ...<g>)

Regards,
Stuart

> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:47:24 -0600
> From:    Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
> Subject: Re: FS: 1Mb 200LX
>
> > PS Unit is for sale as I couldn't get TopSpeed
> > C to compile successfully.  I'm going to try a
> > Poqet next.
>
> I'm not familiar with TopSpeed C but there are a number of C
> compilers that work just fine on the 200lx.  I've used Microsoft C
> 5.0 and 6.0, Borland's Turboc C through version 2.0 and Turbo C++
> through version 2.  Mix Power C works just fine.  PCC works fine and
> is small enough if you don't have a flash card.  And there were
> others.
>
> I've also used Qbasic, Quick Basic, Power Basic, Forth, Pascal,
> Prolog, Lisp, Logo and a couple of others on the 200lx.  No I don't
> know all those languages but I've tried them out.
>
> Basically I've never had any compiler of any language fail to work
> on the 200lx except those that require a 386 cpu.  And those won't
> work on a Poqet either.
>
> A number of the compilers I've just mentioned are readilly available
> for download from the internet and are free.  Power C is available
> for sale from Mix for $19.95.  It's still being updated.  Turbo C
> can be downloaded from Borland, free.  I can't remember if Turbo C++
> is there, too, but it's easy to find in any case.
>
> So what's the big deal about Top Speed C?  And do you know why it
> won't work?
>
> Barry
>
> ------------------------------

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Date:         Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:58:28 -0500
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From:         Scott Schindler <scotts@TOVAX.COM>
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>what / from whom is time line ??
DOS Project Management Software from Symantec

>Is that compatible to any win software
Here is a review from Byte Mag April 1995
http://www.byte.com/art/9504/sec12/art9.htm
There is a Time Line Windows 6.1 version.  I have Time Line 5.0, which is a
DOS version that I have on my LX.  I would imagine that version 6 would
import the files from DOS v5 but I do not have the Windows version.

The TL5 manual says that "Exporting converts Time Line schedule data
into..."
Lotus 1-2-3
Lotus Symphony
Borland Quattro
MS PC Excel
Dbase III & IV

as well as .csv files.

>>export to an .MPX format
I looked around and did not see that this was specifically mentioned.

I also took a look around Symantec's page but did not find anything about
Timeline, maybe they sold it.  Here is a July 1996 press release that
appears to shed some light on the subject of where TL ended up.
http://www.corel.com/news/1996/july/timeline.htm

Scott

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Hoi,

14.12.2000, 15:49, Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> I've just changed my whole email setup (forwarding, filtering etc.) and
> now I'm wondering why I don't get messages from the list anymore.
> So I'd like to test if the list is just not busy at the moment or if i
> have a problem with my setup.

I decided not to make this FLUFF because there were often discussion about
gmx as a mail provider with pop and smtp access. They had bigger problems,
I got lots of bouncing messages I sent to gmx users, and I also couldn't
receive mail from this list. Always remember - it's a free service, and
their downtimes differ from the ones of (good) commercial providers.

Bye
G=FCnther

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Just noticed that the link to "all" my sales was broken into two lines, buy
the email programs, listserver, etc.

Try:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1202170995

for just the Nikon CoolPix, and follow the links provided to my other stuff.

In there is an 8 MB Handspring Visor (w/ USB Cradle) & MiniJam MP3, a big
drawing tablet (serial port linked tablet; pen acts as a mouse .... just so
you don't think I mean "big block of paper <grin>), etc.

Thanks!!

---tim

PS. If you want to, you can cut and paste the "shattered" link  (below) into
Notepad and reassemble it, before pasting into your webbrowser:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=tim-gadgetg
uy&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25

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Be aware that the only Poqet model that can use Flash cards is the Plus (the
one that uses rechargable batteries and has DOS 5.0). California Digital
might still have them for sale, but the ones they have been selling often
have bad batteries. The Poqet Classic and Prime both have Dos 3.3 and have
early, pre-standard, PCMCIA slots that can only use SRAM cards, possibly
with a 2MB limit.

I have a Poqet Prime. It indeed does have a better keyboard than the HP. The
screen is full CGA/MDA, but I find that the screen on my HP 95LX is much
more readable.

For more info on the Poqet, check out
http://www.bmason.com/PoqetPC/index.shtml.

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I write C programes for the Psion Series 3 /Workabout machines, and the
SDK relies on TopSpeed (it has a particulalry small "small model" and
is scrupulous about register use - qalso the header files are optimised
for it).  The problems  I have I posted a while ago - notably the damn
thing won't compile!  (returns disk not ready or some such error, and
locks up the HP)  It could be a problem with the flash card I am using,
but I don't get the same problem using it in my laptop, so I think it
is an HP/power supply problem.  Also the screen is just a little too
small for my needs, and the TopSpeed colour scheme doesn't work on the
B&W, no matter which mode I use (swapping with ON+*)  Either the text
is clear, or the menus, never both :(

As  I don't use it as a pocket machine (I use my Psion 3mx for diary
etc.), I just wanted a very portable DOS machine. I'm going to try the
Poqet, which has a bigger screen and better (looking) keyboard.  I'll
still lurk on HPLX-L however,as the DOS support is excellent (despite
the fluff ...<g>)

Regards,
Stuart

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Date:         Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:56:22 -0500
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              Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA>
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It seems that the lifespan of a Quicken programmer is about 50-60 yrs.
assuming their average age today is 25-30. Why else would they not allow
dates after 2028 in their apps.? <g>
Anyone using Quicken 7.0 for DOS? I am. I hope someone comes up with a 'bug
fix' for the date 2028 and beyond sometime in the next 27 years or I may
have to throw out the app! :0)






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Greetings,

I ran dbcheck on my appt.adb (301kb) and came up with errors. Data error,
Invalid data & Time in record"" and a link error. Tried to run Garlic but
got a "Error: Virtual lookup table exceeded max allocation". Is my Appt
book too big? Any help appreciated. BTW- I had a problem with missing
records in my world.wdb. Garlic fixed it perfectly.

Joe Buford

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Excellent !!

And I now see my problem: I was reading the brackets in "(503)" as
part of the command syntax, when in reality they are part of the
search string. Silly me.
Pity the manual writer chose a piece of phone number instead of a
partial alpha string as an example.

Thanks again to you all for your help. What a great list this is.

Cheers, Roger

It is not about proving anything, but to make the thing do your bidding :)
...

I took the 123HELP.GDB and am now looking for all records which contain the
string "calc" in the Help field. Works...

I pressed F6, DEFINE, GENERAL (to get to SSL), and in the SSL statement
field typed this:

Help#"calc"

(Make sure the spelling of field name is accurate)

then F10, give it a name, then press OK.

I get 25 items out of 179, and I can confirm that each has the string
"calc" in the Help field.


At 12/14/00 +1300, you wrote:
>Avi wrote:
> >>I think the # operator does that, no? "Field contains string value,
e.g.
> >>Phone##"(503)"."  I read it to say that any record with phone field
> >>containing the string "(503)" will be selected - no matter what the
>_rest_
> >>of the field contains. Id this what you wanted to do?
>
>Perfectly true, as clearly stated in the manual, but it only seems to
>work (for me anyway) if '503' is a 'word' standing on its own in the
>field.  i.e. if the string '1150311' exists in the field, that record
>will NOT be selected.  It will be selected OK if the field contains
>something like '1234 503 56789'
>
>Please prove me wrong. I'd appreciate it :-p
>
>Cheers, Roger
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I know this is off topic but I'm looking for an email program that will
run on a pentium 3 for receiving this list.  It used to come in on
outlook express which died and I haven't been able to get it working
again.  Now i'm using nestcape 4.7.  The new email program needs to
handle 4 email identities (DSL) and usenet newsgroups including this
one.  Anyone have any suggestions? I tried reinstalling outlook express
with IE but it did not work.  I also tried numerous sources to try and
get OE working again, it starts up and dies out after about 3 seconds.

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From:         Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive

Scott replied once to my several messages, after I had posted
to the list. He claimed to have sent mail to my alternate
e-mail address, which he couldn't have since it was not known
by him or anyone else until I posted it to the list. And as of
this writing, he hasn't sent any messages there at all.

He said that he was sorry that the Zip drive, packaged in the
padded envelope only, did not arrive safely. That was all.
He has not replied to me since.

So he was polite and helpful until the drive came DOA. Then he
wasn't helpful any longer. I see he is now promising to put bubble
wrap around everything he ships, but that is too late for me.

I thought it was interesting that a couple of days ago I
received a twin camera bar (for stereo pictures using two
cameras) from a vendor. It is 3/8 inch thick, 1 1/4 inches
wide, and 8 1/2 inches long, made of solid aluminum, with a
few holes drilled in it. It was wrapped in bubble wrap and
packed in a box.

These are the facts. Draw your own conclusions.

Mark Shields
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Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:47:12 -0500 (EST)

Hi All:

   Well my computer budget is getting depleted rather quickly this
   holiday season, so I have decided to unload some spare equipment to
   beef up my coffers.

   I would rather move it here than EBay if possible.

200LX - 2x - 32MB:
------------------
This unit has a repaired hinge crack(barely
noticeable), and has an intermittent (removed by pressure to the upper
right of the screen bezel) missing line (horizontal) on the screen.
I am asking $400

100LX - 2x - 1MB:
-----------------
This unit has a belmish on the case (missing paint chip, colored in w/
marker) in the Hewlett Packard 100LX logo area, and has a folded
rubberband replacing the catch spring. The screen on this machine is
intermittent as well, has missing vertical lines all accross the
screen, but is also fixed by applying pressure to the screen bezel, on
the upper left. I will include a 10MB SUNDISK FLASH card as well.
I am asking $100

I have manuals & serial cables for both macines for both machines, but
only one US adapter, the other is European prong style.

Prices include insured priority USPS shipping in contenintal US.

Please contact me OFF LIST at albert.kind@uconn.edu if you are
interested.

Cheers...AJKind

I also have an EXP ThinFax1414LX/8MB FAX/MODEM/FLASH card for which I'm
asking $30



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Glad it worked... I think maybe the choice in the example is ok, they
picked numerics and two symbols, almost to tell you that alpha are
self-evident :) ...


At 12/15/00 +1300, you wrote:
>Excellent !!
>
>And I now see my problem: I was reading the brackets in "(503)" as
>part of the command syntax, when in reality they are part of the
>search string. Silly me.
>Pity the manual writer chose a piece of phone number instead of a
>partial alpha string as an example.

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Date:         Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:35:50 -0800
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----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hi

Got a second hp200lx, tried to establish emm200.dat with
makeems 2. chksdk emm200.dat reports .. are contiguous,
but while booting emm200.exe complains:
EMS-file contains non-contiguous blocks and refuses installing
emm. Is it probably an RAM-fault? Or is there another
software-way to try?

                K@Rdt
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              Jacques Belin <listes2@ALTERN.ORG>
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Le Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:19:19 -0500
Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET> a =E9crit:

> I know this is off topic but I'm looking for an email program that will
> run on a pentium 3 for receiving this list. =20

I use Becky Internet Mail. Not very known in Europe and USA, but very
elegant, powerfull, and secure (i.e., the opposite of OE <g>)

It can handle unlimited independant e-mail accounts, and has plug-in
capabilities. Among them, a newsgroups plug-in (not multi-pass
unfortunately).

You can download the program at http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm, and
get other infos (newsgroups plug-in location, among them) at :
   http://www.becky-users.morelerbe.com

Jacques.
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Date:         Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:53:56 -0800
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Post/LX? Runs on desktops, can handle multiple mailboxes (different IDs and
passwords) does not care if it runs using "fast modems" :) such as DSL...
:) Good luck.

At 12/14/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I know this is off topic but I'm looking for an email program that will
>run on a pentium 3 for receiving this list.  It used to come in on
>outlook express which died and I haven't been able to get it working
>again.  Now i'm using nestcape 4.7.  The new email program needs to
>handle 4 email identities (DSL) and usenet newsgroups including this
>one.  Anyone have any suggestions? I tried reinstalling outlook express
>with IE but it did not work.  I also tried numerous sources to try and
>get OE working again, it starts up and dies out after about 3 seconds.
>
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Date:         Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:47:01 +1300
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              Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Michael
I have both timeline and now recently obtained a copy of MS
Project for DOS.  I am just investigating the two of them and will
write a short review for the list.  Most of all, I have been
looking into their ability to move data to MS Project 2000 which
is the project management tool used by my staff.

PJT2001 was useful if you wanted to get a quick look at a Gantt
chart but printing was problematic and no chance of exporting to
anything but the address book and then only one task at a time
(too tedious).  I have trialled a version of Project: Vision but
it is not the version that can export to MPX format.

Cheers
Tony.

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Michael Berrier
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Subject: Re: MS project on the 200lx


tony,
what / from whom is time line ?? Is that compatible to any win
software. The
trick is to find a project managenment software which is easy to
handle on
our 200LX as well as on the desktop / notebook and / or under
windows. What
is the solution. Your / any help is appreciated Thanks i a !!
Michael

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I've got a gmx.net email id.  I have subscribed to 2 lists which send me
1 small file a day each.  In the last couple of months the files have
arrived reliably every day.  This isn't heavy duty use but it does show
reliability (for me).  In the last week or so there have been several
times I couldn't connect with gmx but I was able to connect later.

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Greetings,

I ran dbcheck on my appt.adb (301kb) and came up with errors. Data error,
Invalid data & Time in record"" and a link error. Tried to run Garlic but
got a "Error: Virtual lookup table exceeded max allocation". Is my Appt
book too big? Any help appreciated. BTW- I had a problem with missing
records in my world.wdb. Garlic fixed it perfectly.

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Tony and Michael,

I'm currently evaluating CA Super Project 2.0 on my 200LX. Have you tried it? If
so, how does MS Project for DOS compare to it?


Thanks.

Jimmy.
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Subject:    MS project on the 200lx
Author: Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Date:       Friday, December 15, 2000 09:47

Michael
I have both timeline and now recently obtained a copy of MS
Project for DOS.  I am just investigating the two of them and will
write a short review for the list.  Most of all, I have been
looking into their ability to move data to MS Project 2000 which
is the project management tool used by my staff.

PJT2001 was useful if you wanted to get a quick look at a Gantt
chart but printing was problematic and no chance of exporting to
anything but the address book and then only one task at a time
(too tedious).  I have trialled a version of Project: Vision but
it is not the version that can export to MPX format.

Cheers
Tony.

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Sent: Thursday, 14 December 2000 20:14
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Subject: Re: MS project on the 200lx


tony,
what / from whom is time line ?? Is that compatible to any win
software. The
trick is to find a project managenment software which is easy to
handle on
our 200LX as well as on the desktop / notebook and / or under
windows. What
is the solution. Your / any help is appreciated Thanks i a !!
Michael


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Hello!

I have sent this message yesterday with the uncomplete subject:
Subject: emm200:
So please don't complain.
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Hi

Got a second hp200lx, tried to establish emm200.dat with
makeems 2. chksdk emm200.dat reports .. are contiguous,
but while booting emm200.exe complains:
EMS-file contains non-contiguous blocks and refuses installing
emm. Is it probably an RAM-fault? Or is there another
software-way to try?

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Joe Buford asked for suggestions regarding a corrupt appt.adb.

Here are a couple of thoughts.  I would first make a backup copy
and work with that.  You might then try opening a new database
{Alt-File-New} and merging the copy into it {Alt-File-Merge}.

Another approach would be to open the backup copy and extract
the records {Alt-File-Extract} to a new appointment database.

In this process you could also clip out old appointments, if
you want.  For example, I like to keep old appointments for a
while (for reference), but only go back 1-2 years.  On January
1 each year I extract to a new file all records since the
previous January 1.

Hope this helps!

Ted

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Theodore Heise wrote:
> Is it possible the read/write characteristics of the flash card (or
> the routines that handle this) are involved?  Would you expect the
> same results if you were to read and write from the palmtop RAM drive?

Ted,

    Yes, I would expect essentially identical results for RAM and
flash.  But I ran the test you suggested anyway.

    PP-200 Win 95 to 200LX palmtop

    Large file "BAT865.ZIP" 713,647 bytes.

    Transfer is from RAM drive F: to flash card A:.

        baud  seconds Bytes/Sec  % efficiency
    115,200      222     3,215    27.9%

    Transfer is from RAM drive F: to RAM drive C:.

        baud  seconds Bytes/Sec  % efficiency
    115,200      215     3,319    28.8%

    Well there's another data point.  A bigger difference than I
expected.

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Hi friends,

today I got an Accton Ethernet card that I bought "blind" from a seller
on ebay. He didn't know the exact model description.

I received the card without dongle, but for a very good price.
First, I ran the acctest.exe utility. This was successful until the
external loop test, which couldn't run because of the missing dongle.

Then I ran LXCIC which identified the card as an Accton 2212.

Now my question: Will I be able to use it with a suitable dongle in the
LX? I won't buy a dongle for 50 DM if I don't know if the card will
work.

Here is what LXCIC said:

ACCTON
Thank you in advance

daniel

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On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Daniel Hertrich wrote:
<snip>
> Then I ran LXCIC which identified the card as an Accton 2212.
>
> Now my question: Will I be able to use it with a suitable dongle in the
> LX? I won't buy a dongle for 50 DM if I don't know if the card will
> work.

I ran my palmtop webserver on a 2212 for about a year with no problems. I
never could get the 2212 to work with the new LXEN2216 packet driver, and
had to use the older PD221?.  This means no persistant connection if you
turn off the palmtop. It may have been the software I was running though.

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> PS. If you want to, you can cut and paste
> the "shattered" link  (below) into Notepad
> and reassemble it, before pasting into your
> webbrowser:

An easier way is to just select the non-link portion and copy it and
then click on the link portion.  Ebay will tell you there's no user
found and then paste the rest into the address line.

That's barely slower than if there had been no problem and simple to
do.  I do that with links from this list all the time.

Barry

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Greetings, all!

I'm a benign lurker on the list, and enjoy all of its exchanges and
excellent information.

I've just discovered the joys of using a mouse with my 200LX.  I'm using the
'Cute Mouse' driver.  So far the mouse works with the Trius CAD program I'm
testing.  Does anyone have experience with:

- finding a very small mouse (I've looked at Tiny Mouse, but it's still a
little big for my tastes)
- using a mouse with built-in apps if possible
- arranging a physically-neat connection to the serial port (now it's 200LX
serial cable to null modem to mouse)
- how to use the mouse on COM1 and still print over the IR port without
swapping cables

Thanks in advance,

Steve Ferrier
SDG Analytic, Inc.
Semiconductor Failure Analysis Training and Consulting
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Well, after much help from Hans and suggestions from others, I still can't
get PE and PIM working together. We've checked the configs, looked at
MaxDOS, run from plain DOS, and downloaded and reinstalled PE. No luck.

I've come to the conclusion that the problem is either:

a) user error. Most likely :)
b) not enough memory. Although I can't see why.

I really like the new outline/database features in PE and suggest that you
take a look at them. They really add to the program.

If a new version of either program comes out I'll try again to get them to
work. Until then, I have to get back to work :(

Thanks again, Hans, for all your help and the same to everyone else who
made suggestions.

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Tony,

> Michael
> I have both timeline and now recently obtained a copy of MS
> Project for DOS.  I am just investigating the two of them and will
> write a short review for the list.  Most of all, I have been
> looking into their ability to move data to MS Project 2000 which
> is the project management tool used by my staff.

Try PRO/LX from www.dasoft.com. It's small, free and runs well on the
HP200LX. I gave up on MSProj and converted to PRO/LX. It will export to
a CDF file format which loads as table into WinProj.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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> Anyone have any suggestions? I tried
> reinstalling outlook express with IE but
> it did not work.  I also tried numerous
> sources to try and get OE working again,
> it starts up and dies out after about 3 seconds.

Sounds like time to format c: and re-install everything.

I find that doing that at least once a year saves a LOT of trouble.
I'm overdue now and I've been putting it off.

Both Outlook Express and Windows Explorer start crashing and giving
me other problems and nothing really fixes them for more than a few
days and that's my cue that it's time to get a fresh start.

Walt Disney refused to use Hanna and Barberra's new method for
making cheap but bad cartoons.   He insisted that "The American
People" would never accept such poor quality.  Hanna and Barberra
and Bill Gates have a much more realistic view of us.  They might
have learned it from Chef Boy-Ar-Dee.

I wonder if that's what Pogo really had in mind when he said "We
have met the enemy and they are us".

Barry

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Klaus Reinhardt wrote:
> Got a second hp200lx, tried to establish emm200.dat with
> makeems 2. chksdk emm200.dat reports .. are contiguous,
> but while booting emm200.exe complains:
> EMS-file contains non-contiguous blocks ..
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Hi

Prob solved, but don't understand. Found the hint in the
emm200.doc. On my old 200lx I use the patch and on the ebay-
200lx I have to use the non-patch emm200.exe.
First I had compared the BIOS-dates and they both are
equal 05/13/94. Therefore I .. see Murphy -)
The author of emm200 - Naohiko Shimizu - is pointing to
the difference in 0040:00c8-b (02 02 02 02 for the old,
08 00 00 00 for the patch). But I don't understand the
description in the Devel-Guide: NRAS0 - physical device
size, cause both have 2 MB.
Has somebody a helpful comment?

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I've often thought about using one of the older Cirque
pads instead of a mouse.  I don't know if this would
require a custom driver, but this unit "holstered" on the
back of the LX would be handy.

SDG Analytic wrote:
>
> Greetings, all!
>
> I've just discovered the joys of using a mouse with my 200LX.

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If you don't mind the pink color, you can get an Appoint Pen Mouse from
California Digital for $9 plus S/H (http://www.cadigital.com/software.htm).
The reason it's pink is it comes with an old Barbie fashion design software
package. The pen mouse is shaped like a fat pen with the serial cable out
the top end and has a small ball (about 3/8" diameter) in the tip. I have
one that I use with Windows 3.0 on my Poqet. Since the business end is not
much bigger than the ball, I can use it on a desk surface, the screen bezel,
or even my pants leg. I cut off the DB9 connector and wired it directly to a
special connector (that the Poqet needs).

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...
Does anyone have experience with:

- finding a very small mouse (I've looked at Tiny Mouse, but it's still a
little big for my tastes)
...

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I have an unusual mouse called a "finger mouse".  It is the size
of an egg, with a hole though it. Your index finger goes through
the hole, and you work a trackball and buttons on the top with
your thumb. There is also a left click button on the inside of
the hole under your index finger. I like it because it uses no
desk space at all. It has a PS/2 connection, but I'll bet that it
would work with the HP with a PS/2 to serial adapter. It is model
FDM-G10, and here is a link to a page with a picture of it (not
English though).  I got this at a computer show, I don't know
where to actually buy one.

http://www.mscom.or.jp/~com1/ch/offusb.html
Bryan


SDG Analytic wrote:
>
> Greetings, all!
>
> I'm a benign lurker on the list, and enjoy all of its exchanges and
> excellent information.
>
> I've just discovered the joys of using a mouse with my 200LX.  I'm using the
> 'Cute Mouse' driver.  So far the mouse works with the Trius CAD program I'm
> testing.  Does anyone have experience with:
>
> - finding a very small mouse (I've looked at Tiny Mouse, but it's still a
> little big for my tastes)
> - using a mouse with built-in apps if possible
> - arranging a physically-neat connection to the serial port (now it's 200LX
> serial cable to null modem to mouse)
> - how to use the mouse on COM1 and still print over the IR port without
> swapping cables
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Steve Ferrier
> SDG Analytic, Inc.
> Semiconductor Failure Analysis Training and Consulting
> Tel 541-757-9722  Fax 541-757-9757
> Website http://www.sdganalytic.com
>
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Do any of you use the Megahertz XJ1144 modem w/ your HP200lx/E-mail
programs?
I'm looking for a modem to use with Goin' Postal or ccLXpop is there
anything tricky about setting these up, like scripts or drivers? ANY scripts
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>>Sounds like time to format c: and re-install everything.
>>
>>I find that doing that at least once a year saves a LOT of trouble.
>>I'm overdue now and I've been putting it off.

there is a testimonial for the windows operating system if I ever heard one
<g>

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Hans Peter Staber schrieb:

> Try PRO/LX from www.dasoft.com. It's small, free and runs well on the
> HP200LX. I gave up on MSProj and converted to PRO/LX. It will export to
> a CDF file format which loads as table into WinProj.
>

Sounds interesting to me. Unfortunately i can=B4t find it at dasoft.com.
Could you please recheck your source.
Thanks alot!
Happly LXing,
Juergen.


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I think you hit the point Barry.

> Sounds like time to format c: and re-install everything.
>
> I find that doing that at least once a year saves a LOT of trouble.
> I'm overdue now and I've been putting it off.
>
> Both Outlook Express and Windows Explorer start crashing and giving
> me other problems and nothing really fixes them for more than a few
> days and that's my cue that it's time to get a fresh start.

The same is true for nearly every program under Windows!
I believe the number 95 or 98 stands for the
meantimebetweenfailure(mtbf).
Sometimes it=B4s unit is minutes, the other time it is hours or at least
days.
The unit will automatically changed depending on the number of programs
used so far and an random factor counted by the number of open gates in
your town.
Yes, you guessed it: Its the gates-factor! :-)

If you have to build on reliability: count on your HPLX!
Thy only natural enemy are batteries, which could run
out of power in just the wrong moment.

Happy LXing!
Juergen.

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On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Jim Hromek wrote:

> From: Jim Hromek <af3962@WAYNE.EDU>
> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:23:42 -0500
> Subject: Mhz XJ1144
>
> Do any of you use the Megahertz XJ1144 modem w/ your HP200lx/E-mail
> programs?
> I'm looking for a modem to use with Goin' Postal or ccLXpop is there
> anything tricky about setting these up, like scripts or drivers? ANY scripts
> you may be using with either programs would be most helpful.
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I've had good luck with the MegaHertz XJ2144.  It requires no special
setup.  I've used LXTCP/PNR for e-mail for several years.  An outline
of the setup process is at:

  http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/LXTCP.html

Good luck.

Ted

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>
> If you have to build on reliability: count on your HPLX!
> Thy only natural enemy are batteries, which could run
> out of power in just the wrong moment.

void totally_dead_battery_handler(char *Walgreens_address);

Barry

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Try this link:

ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/PE/pro.zip

>Sounds interesting to me. Unfortunately i can=B4t find it at dasoft.com.
>Could you please recheck your source.
>Thanks alot!
>Happly LXing,
>Juergen.

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Hi Mike,

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:41:56 -0700, Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU> wrote:

> I ran my palmtop webserver on a 2212 for about a year with no problems. I
> never could get the 2212 to work with the new LXEN2216 packet driver, and
> had to use the older PD221?.  This means no persistant connection if you
> turn off the palmtop. It may have been the software I was running though.
>

Thanks! This is great news! So I'll order the dongle.
GTX
daniel

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I have not had access to the list via the News Server for over 2
weeks?  Is it down?

I can pick up replies via the Digest.

Citibank advised today that they would no longer allow non browser
access to their online banking something I have used the 200LX for
these past 8 years.

Yet another door is closing on our world!

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J|rgen Korthof wrote:

> If you have to build on reliability: count on your HPLX!
> Thy only natural enemy are batteries, which could run
> out of power in just the wrong moment.

Suggestion: get a couple of extra batteries to keep as spares!!!!!!!!   Get
an extra set and keep them charged!!!!!!!!!

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All prices are AU$ AU$=US$/2    :(

xircom ethernet+28.8 modem $50

home free, wirelesse network PCI+PCMCIA $190

pcmcia card interface for desktop (isa+3.5 slot) (1 type 3 + 1 type 2) $150

pcmcia card interface for desktop PC260 (isa) from Actiontec (2 type 2 or 1
type 3) $120

Maxlite pocket modem 14.4 (work on battery) $40

port replicator for libretto 100/110CT $150

power supply for libretto 100/110CT $120

pcmcia 33.6 modem $50

compact flash card reader/writer on parallel port still in the box $70

pcmcia type 3 hard drive 170Mb $80

accton 2216 pcmcia network card $120
Al
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Yes, with WWW/LX & POST/LX.  AC adapter is a must.
Otherwise, no problems.

Ron

>
> Do any of you use the Megahertz XJ1144 modem w/ your HP200lx/E-mail
> programs?
> I'm looking for a modem to use with Goin' Postal or ccLXpop is there
> anything tricky about setting these up, like scripts or drivers? ANY =
scripts
> you may be using with either programs would be most helpful.
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Stephan R. Novosad writes:
>
>     Yes, I would expect essentially identical results for RAM and
> flash.  But I ran the test you suggested anyway.
>
>     Transfer is from RAM drive F: to flash card A:.
>         baud  seconds Bytes/Sec  % efficiency
>     115,200      222     3,215    27.9%
>
>     Transfer is from RAM drive F: to RAM drive C:.
>         baud  seconds Bytes/Sec  % efficiency
>     115,200      215     3,319    28.8%
>
>     Well there's another data point.  A bigger difference than I
> expected.

Interesting, just under 3% difference. Thanks for the information.

Ted

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>If you have to build on reliability: count on your HPLX!
>Thy only natural enemy are batteries, which could run
>out of power in just the wrong moment.

Hmmm... I use Buddy 3.0 and it tells me the battery voltage.  From
experience whenever it falls to around 2.35V I just recharge it
overnight and away it goes.  Incidentally, I have noticed some
list members talking about the possibility of reducing the life of
their unit because of excessive heat during recharging.  I have
had my LX now since 94 and have never had a problem.
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> > Sounds like time to format c: and re-install
> everything.
> > I find that doing that at least once a year saves a LOT
> of trouble.  I'm overdue now and I've been putting it
off.
>
wait a fortnight, and yu'll be set fer 2001 :)
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Hi Steve,

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:01:06 -0800, SDG Analytic <ferrier@SDGANALYTIC.COM> wrote:

> - finding a very small mouse (I've looked at Tiny Mouse, but it's still a
> little big for my tastes)

Coincidentally, I'm just searching for one. Nowadays it is not
difficult to find small mice, but most of them are USB :-(
I found one serial mouse, but that one didn't work. I have already one
mouse at home that works, but I'm looking for a smaller one.

Today I bought a Cirque Glidepoint (Touchpad) on ebay. I tried one in
August when I met some other fellow palmtoppers from this list in
Vancouver. It was a Cirque Glidepoint GPB120. It worked with a standard
Microsoft Mouse driver. The GLidepoint I bought on ebay is another
model, but also serial and I hope this one will work, too.

> - using a mouse with built-in apps if possible

Won't be possible, I think.

> - arranging a physically-neat connection to the serial port (now it's 200LX
> serial cable to null modem to mouse)

Look at my home page (http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/)
You'll find two different ways to build a serial connector for the
palmtop.

> - how to use the mouse on COM1 and still print over the IR port without
> swapping cables

Won't be possible, I think.
I made a batch file for e.g. Word, which asks me before starting the
actual program, what is connected: Mouse or Printer or Nothing.
Dependant on what I choose, the batch file calls SETCOM1 (by Stefan
Peichl, sets parameters of the serial port, d/l from peichl.hplx.net)
with different parameters to set the COM port and calls mouse driver if
nessecary.
After execution of Word, it removes the mouse driver and switches the
COM port power off via SETCOM1.

Quite comfortable for my needs.

I don't know why not every serial mouse works. Maybe it has something
to do with the lower voltage of the serial port of the palmtop than of
a standard RS232 port.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Bryan,

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:44:31 -0600, Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET> wrote:

> I have an unusual mouse called a "finger mouse".  It is the size
> of an egg, with a hole though it. Your index finger goes through
> the hole, and you work a trackball and buttons on the top with
> your thumb. There is also a left click button on the inside of
> the hole under your index finger. I like it because it uses no
> desk space at all. It has a PS/2 connection, but I'll bet that it
> would work with the HP with a PS/2 to serial adapter. It is model
> FDM-G10, and here is a link to a page with a picture of it (not
> English though).  I got this at a computer show, I don't know
> where to actually buy one.

I tried such a device (amongst others) when I was in Vancouver, Canada
in August. It didn't work with the palmtop. :-(

The fellow list member Don Chow showed me two devices. A Logitech
Trackman Voyager and a Cirque Glidepoint GPB120. Both of them worked.
But both of them are very hard to find!

GTX
daniel


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Don,

> I've come to the conclusion that the problem is either:
>
> a) user error. Most likely :)
> b) not enough memory. Although I can't see why.

I don't think it's memory. Maybe TSR's might be involved as well.

I have your config's and will try to get a working instalation with my
flashcard this weekend.

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              Orin Keplinger <orink@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: USB pcmcia (???) reader?
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I have an ActionTec reader hooked up to a 4way Belkin parallel
port on W98SE. The reader takes all three cards.
Orin
----- Original Message -----
From: "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 12:29 PM
Subject: USB pcmcia (???) reader?


> William:
>
> > my office desktop and the palmtop. At home I have an external
USB
> > ATA/Compact Flash Ram/Smart Media Combination reader/writer.
This device
> > is very small and runs well on Windows 98 Second Edition.
>
> I was recently at CompUSA and Best and could not find any
"reader" that
> took full size pcmcia cards?  And from your description, I'm not
sure if
> the one you described does.  They seem, in the main, to be
limited to
> compact flash or smartmedia.
>
> Anybody else find current pcmcia readers for the desktop?  I
don't do
> backups as often as I should since nothing is wonderful!
>
> I have an Antec parallel port version but it does not work well
(at all)
> under my win98 system with a parallel port zip drive.  I think
it may be
> deactivated by the zip software but installing/uninstalling that
is a
> pain.
>
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Date:         Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:54:18 +0000
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Striegel, Alan wrote:

> IMSI doesn't appear to offer this product anymore (I searched their =
website
> at www.imsisoft.com).  But there is another vendor with a similar =
product:
> Far Stone Technology sells Virtual Drive 2000 for $35.00 and it's
> downloadable from their website at
> http://www.farstone.com/env20/products/vd.asp.

There is also Virtual CD 3, another shareware product,
available at http://www.virtualcd-online.com. It sounds as if
it has identical functionality.

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Date:         Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:51:39 EST
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do you still have the 20mg flash card?

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Date:         Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:28:50 -0800
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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.

They are in excellent Condition!
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $55.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


I also have  (2) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for
shipping and packaging.

Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you

can send payment to my address at:
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just Awesome!  and the
people I have worked with have been just great!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Date:         Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:19:07 -0600
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Sorry, haven't received any posts for a day and a half. Testing.

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Date:         Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:21:19 +0200
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Klaus Reinhardt writes:
> ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
> Hi
>
> Got a second hp200lx, tried to establish emm200.dat with
> makeems 2. chksdk emm200.dat reports .. are contiguous,
> but while booting emm200.exe complains:
> EMS-file contains non-contiguous blocks and refuses installing
> emm. Is it probably an RAM-fault? Or is there another
> software-way to try?
>
>                 K@Rdt
> ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! -------------------

How much built in memory does the HP200LX have?  1Mb 2Mb 4Mb ?


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Dear Al Kind,

I seem to have been dropped from the hplx list, I haven't received any mail
for 2 days. Can you help me out? Thanks.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:25:08 +0100
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Subject:      Re: MS project on the 200lx
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The idea is worth to try !! Where did find Winproj ??

-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
Hans Peter Staber
Sent: Freitag, Dezember 15, 2000 18.21 Uhr
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: MS project on the 200lx


Tony,

> Michael
> I have both timeline and now recently obtained a copy of MS
> Project for DOS.  I am just investigating the two of them and will
> write a short review for the list.  Most of all, I have been
> looking into their ability to move data to MS Project 2000 which
> is the project management tool used by my staff.

Try PRO/LX from www.dasoft.com. It's small, free and runs well on the
HP200LX. I gave up on MSProj and converted to PRO/LX. It will export to
a CDF file format which loads as table into WinProj.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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              Patrick west <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
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Does anyone have the old pcmcia version of the one with a
.exm version?
That they might be willing to sell or trade...
(I have two copies of the DOS version as well as a windows
and a OS/2 version. An while I can get the dos version to
run on the 200lx i was thinking the .exm version might be
nicer...)

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 07:34:14 +0800
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              Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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Thank you to all who have answered my question concerning the different
Megahertz pcmcia models that do work on the hp200lx.  I have gained so much
information from this list.

On another related topic, does anyone have any experience in using the
Pretec compact flash modem together with the hp200lx?  More info on this
modem can be found at www.pretec.com.  I've checked the specifications and
it rates the modem at 3.3V,0.2W or at 5V, 0.7W.  If my power formula is
correct (P=IV), the respective current draws would be 60ma and 140ma both
within the 150ma requirement for the hp200lx.  It also says in the specs
that it would run in DOS.  Does anyone have any experience in using this
modem with the hp200lx?  Also, which voltage and watt rating would the lx
use since it can use both.

regards,
Oliver

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Date:         Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:45:09 -0800
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Testing WWW/LX 3.1 setup...

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:50:51 +0800
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>The author of emm200 - Naohiko Shimizu - is pointing to
>the difference in 0040:00c8-b (02 02 02 02 for the old,
>08 00 00 00 for the patch). But I don't understand the
>description in the Devel-Guide: NRAS0 - physical device
>size, cause both have 2 MB.
>Has somebody a helpful comment?

I did ask Mr Naohiko Shimizu about it and this was his reply.

Regards,
Leong
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The EMM200 strongly depends on the memory mapping hardware
of 200LX. The BIOS data shows how may and how big the ram chips are,
and at the release days there was no other models of 200LX than 02 02 02 02
pattern. Then the EMM200 only recognizes that memory model, but later
HP releases 200LX with bigger ram chips. The patch is intended to adjust
the memory access pattern for the bigger chips.

Is it clear?
Naohiko Shimizu

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You need to patch your version of emm200. Newer models of the 200LX have
different memory mapping. The steps to patch your emm200 are

1) Rename EMM200.EXE as EMM200.BIN by "REN" command of DOS.
2) Issue DEBUG command from prompt, as debug emm200.bin
    enter following commands.
e0a36 07
e0a41 07
e1cb8 70
w
q
2) Rename EMM200.BIN as EMM200.EXE.
3) Install as usual EMM200

Hope this helps
Regards,
Leong

----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start -------------------
Hi

Got a second hp200lx, tried to establish emm200.dat with
makeems 2. chksdk emm200.dat reports .. are contiguous,
but while booting emm200.exe complains:
EMS-file contains non-contiguous blocks and refuses installing
emm. Is it probably an RAM-fault? Or is there another
software-way to try?

                K@Rdt
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I haven't received anything for 2 days....what gives?

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 06:53:46 +0200
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Hi friends,

since I've had trouble with my email accout, I didn't get any list
message for abt. 3 days now.
I modified my filter and forwarding setup, so that the problem is now
(temporarily) solved.
Could you please resend messages to me if you wrote
Re: Accton Ethernet card or
Re: Small mouse
?

Thank you very much!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 17 Dec 2000 23:31:43 -0700
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> - finding a very small mouse (I've looked at Tiny Mouse, but it's still a
> little big for my tastes)

I bought a Cirque Glidepoint Portable, about 2 1/2 x 3 1/2 x 1/2
inches. Fits nicely in a pocket in my bag I carry stuff in.

> - arranging a physically-neat connection to the serial port (now it's 200LX
> serial cable to null modem to mouse)

I chopped the cable off to a few inches and put one of my own connectors
on. It works well, but I don't use it very much.

Mike Kopplin

(wondering if the list is dead, or just really quiet this weekend)

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:46:26 +0800
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Hi,

How to solve following problem: HP 200LX connected to a network and I
want to connect to a FTP server installed on a workstation. But this
workstation gets the IP address from a DHCP server and therefore I only
know the workstations computer name. So by knowing the computer name,
how can I get to know the IP address by using 200LX- so I can connect
to the installed FTP server?

Thanks,

Jorgen

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:32:40 -0500
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Test Message...Back on-line ;-)

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:18:12 +0000
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It's pretty quiet out there...

So, what does everyone want for christmas? ..for their LX of course!

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:47:07 -0700
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              Don Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
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Subject:      Solution: PE and PIM configs
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Hans,

Your CFGs worked and I'm nominating myself for the "I'm an Idiot Award."
There was one character in PE.CFG that was wrong:

  Prog=a;\pim\pim.exe   (I had a semicolon instead of a colon)

That made all the difference. I've had it wrong in every CFG because I kept
copying the old one.

While experimenting using the "correct" file, I noticed two things. One was
that PICK.EXE still won't work unless I'm running under all available
memory or MaxDOS. The other is that PIM won't work correctly unless I'm
running under MaxDOS. Without MaxDOS, PIM will open but won't show any
entries.

Using MaxDOS means that I can't cycle between other programs, which I
really like to do. Looks like it's time to upgrade my 2Mb unit :)

Thanks again, Hans, for your patient. Now that I've got PE and PIM working
I'm sure I'll have more questions.

Happy Holidays All,
Don

At 08:37 AM 12/18/00 +0100, HP Staber wrote:
<SNIP>
>Don,
>
>I have verified your setup on my Sandisk CF and it worked right away.
>Enclosed are my config files which should work for you as well as the
>file picking utility PICK.EXE which you should put into a:\pe.
>
>You need to modyfy my path statement for the temporary directory in my
>pe.cfg to your installation.
>
>Good luck.
>
>HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:46:16 -0600
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Here is a small mouse that I spotted when searching the bargain
sites. I have not bought one of these myself, or every gotten
anything from these guys, but hey! Purple! and only $3! It looks
like it is serial from the picture.
Bryan

http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/product2.asp?dept%5Fid=18&sku=QS169P

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:01:06 -0800, SDG Analytic <ferrier@SDGANALYTIC.COM> wrote:
>
> > - finding a very small mouse (I've looked at Tiny Mouse, but it's still a
> > little big for my tastes)
>
> C

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:02:28 -0700
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              "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>
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From:         "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM>
Subject:      Re: FS: 20MB Flash card
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Sorry. I've traded it to another list member for some smaller cards that I
think will work with my 95LX.

-----Original Message-----
From: Harvey Cohn mailto:Harvminimed@AOL.COM
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 3:52 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: FS: 20MB Flash card


do you still have the 20mg flash card?

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:40:59 -0800
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              "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <sally_cooper@HP.COM>
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From:         "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <sally_cooper@HP.COM>
Subject:      Re: Quiet All I want for Christmas is ...
Comments: To: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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... a lead to find a case that will open like the palmtop does, the smaller the
better.  I don't want one where the palmtop has to be removed from the case for
use, or one that is the size of a small suitcase.

Sally

-----Original Message-----
From: Russel Brooks mailto:rlbrooks@POBOX.COM
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 9:18 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Quiet


It's pretty quiet out there...

So, what does everyone want for christmas? ..for their LX of course!

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:47:01 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 11:44 PM 17/12/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I haven't received anything for 2 days....what gives?

I dont know about anyone else but I've been busy at hospital helping with
the birth of my first son.

GREAT xmas present  :))

Now I dont have a spare LX  :((  In another 5 years time  <sigh>  :)))))

Russell

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:49:30 -0700
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Maybe you could get HP to make and sell one, along with a new _DOS_ version
of the 200LX ;)

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 2:41 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Quiet All I want for Christmas is ...


... a lead to find a case that will open like the palmtop does, the smaller
the
better.  I don't want one where the palmtop has to be removed from the case
for
use, or one that is the size of a small suitcase.

Sally

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:29:52 +0100
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              "Bel, Michel" <Michel.Bel@NL.ORIGIN-IT.COM>
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Hi,
I am looking for the drivers for the Intel Series 2+ cards. Can anybody post
them somewhere or mail them to me. The old url -
<ftp://ftp.m-sys.com/pub/PCMCI321.zip> is long gone.
thanks,
Michel, newly owner of a 2MB normal speed 200LX, plus the above and then
some...

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:49:16 -0500
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Hi!  I was able to back up my palmtop onto a Win3.1 machine years ago, and be
able to work on items on the PC as well as the palmtop.  With Win NT, I've only
found software that'll let me back up my HP200LX into a compressed file on the
PC.  If something happens to my palmtop, all I have is this compressed file.  Is
there updated software out there that'll allow me to synch?

Thanks,

Rob

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:32:37 +0800
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              Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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Could users of Going Postal lend me a hand?  I keep getting an error
stating "pop3 address unresolved, ICMP: port unreachable".  I know my pop3
server and dns server entries are correct because two other current mail
programs using the same entries do work.  Any ideas on what I'm doing
wrong?  Thanks in advance.

Oliver

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 01:29:24 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
Subject:      SSH on a single speed LX?
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Hi all,

glad to see the list up and running again. Has anyone tried the SSH
for DOS program (avail. from the link below) on a single speed LX? if so,
how fast is it? is it useable at all? the program has been discussed
before, but I don't recall if anyone ever tried it on a 1x LX.

http://www.vein.hu/~nagyd/sshdos.html


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:59:34 -0700
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From:         Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
Subject:      Re: SSH on a single speed LX?
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> glad to see the list up and running again. Has anyone tried the SSH
> for DOS program (avail. from the link below) on a single speed LX? if so,
> how fast is it? is it useable at all? the program has been discussed
> before, but I don't recall if anyone ever tried it on a 1x LX.
>
> http://www.vein.hu/~nagyd/sshdos.html

With an Accton network card, it works well on a 1x. I wouldn't call it
fast, but it's not bad.

With an XJ1144 modem it was still "usable", but quite a bit slower. I only
tried it a couple times with the modem though. There might have been
something else slowing down communication. Even if that's the fastest it
will go, it would still be useful for occasional use, or if you "need" to
use ssh for a connection. Reading all my email with it would get tedious
though.

I would say give it a try and see how it works for you.  The author
recommends using the blowfish cypher on slower machines as it is less cpu
intensive.

Regards,
Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:41:40 -0500
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              "Francois G ." <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
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Subject:      Re: SSH on a single speed LX?
Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.HPX.4.21.0012190127280.21928-100000@ask.diku.dk>; from
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:29:24AM +0100, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> glad to see the list up and running again. Has anyone tried the SSH
> for DOS program (avail. from the link below) on a single speed LX? if so,
> how fast is it? is it useable at all? the program has been discussed
> before, but I don't recall if anyone ever tried it on a 1x LX.

I've been using it since someone first mentioned it on the list around
version 0.2 on my 1x 4mb 200lx.  It's noticeably slow, but useable.
Just going by eye, sshdos 0.6 feels like 2400 bps over dosppp 0.6.
Haven't used it much over lxeth.com, but it felt faster.


My setup is includes lxshift, doskey, lxcic, dosclip, jam, and dosppp
resident using an external cdpd modem (getting an average 1kbps).

I've noticed while using 0.6 that i occasionally get keyboard lock-ups
on the lx, which i have to reboot after to fix.  I didn't notice this
under 0.2-4, but i've increased my usage of sshdos since then.

--francois

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:49:15 -0500
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              Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Jim Hromek wrote:

> I haven't received anything for 2 days....what gives?
>
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We're waiting breathlessly for hp to reintroduce the 200lx.,  Seriously
I think the list was down for a awhile.

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:51:43 -0500
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              Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Russel Brooks wrote:

> It's pretty quiet out there...
>
> So, what does everyone want for christmas? ..for their LX of course!
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
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I want hp to release a new hp200lx with a faster processor, color
screen, backlighting, etc.

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:56:35 -0500
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From:         Francois Gurin <matrix@SHOT.ORG>
Subject:      Re: 200LX NETWORK QUESTION
Comments: To: jorgen@PALMTOP.NET
In-Reply-To:  <200012181146.eBIBkQg28950@smtp11.singnet.com.sg>; from Jorgen
              Wallgren on Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 07:46:26PM +0800
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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 07:46:26PM +0800, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
> How to solve following problem: HP 200LX connected to a network and I
> want to connect to a FTP server installed on a workstation. But this
> workstation gets the IP address from a DHCP server and therefore I only
> know the workstations computer name. So by knowing the computer name,
> how can I get to know the IP address by using 200LX- so I can connect
> to the installed FTP server?

I thought about this for a bit, and while i came up with a dozen crazy
solutions depending on the workstation os and what the computer name
is (my best guess would be windows, the computer name being it's smb
identity).

But the only thing i can come up  with which should work in most
situations is getting a dyndns.com domain name (or similar service)
and running the auto-update client on the workstation.

Hope this helps!

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:05:11 -0500
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              "thomas e. nemeth" <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Subject:      WWW/LX connection problems
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Hi All,

I am finally using WWW/LX ver 3.1  and am having problems getting
connected.
I'm using the standard stock CIS login that comes with WWW/LX  (CIS Class=
ic
account) and I get the following....

Connected 19,200

Sending login
GOT!  %$!&@%*&@()*!)@@)@!)_! type characters for a line and half
Aborting!  Broken connection =

Timeout waiting for word
Hanging up.
Exiting www/lx ....

Can one of the WWW/LX Whiz Kids slap my synapses and tell me what I'm doi=
ng
wrong, pls?

Tom, no longer of Muscat, freezing his keisteroff in Washington, DC ... A=
nd
loving every minute of it....

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:41:31 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Mhz XJ1144
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Using www/lx and post/lx takes more juice? really?

At 12/15/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Yes, with WWW/LX & POST/LX.  AC adapter is a must.
>Otherwise, no problems.

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:44:16 -0800
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Subject:      Re: fluff: Is everyone hibernating?
Comments: To: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Congratulations!!! Nice job - just in time to get over the initial shock
and recover sufficiently to have a marvellous christmas!

At 12/19/00 +1100, you wrote:
>At 11:44 PM 17/12/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >I haven't received anything for 2 days....what gives?
>
>I dont know about anyone else but I've been busy at hospital helping with
>the birth of my first son.
>
>GREAT xmas present  :))
>
>Now I dont have a spare LX  :((  In another 5 years time  <sigh>  :)))))
>
>Russell
>
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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:31:14 +1300
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              Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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From:         Tony Kan <tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject:      Re: News server access
Comments: To: ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Won't www/lx allow you to interact with browser based commercial
services?
Tony
PS.  I am not a www/lx user so I am asking as an interested
bystander.

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From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf
Of
Colin Cohen
Sent: Saturday, 16 December 2000 12:21
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: News server access


I have not had access to the list via the News Server for over 2
weeks?  Is it down?

I can pick up replies via the Digest.

Citibank advised today that they would no longer allow non browser
access to their online banking something I have used the 200LX for
these past 8 years.

Yet another door is closing on our world!

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:19:07 -0800
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              SDG Analytic <ferrier@SDGANALYTIC.COM>
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Thanks to all who replied regarding my search for a small mouse; you all
helped.

Sincerely,
Steve Ferrier
SDG Analytic, Inc.
Semiconductor Failure Analysis Training & Consulting
Tel 541-757-9722  Fax 541-757-9757
http://www.sdganalytic.com

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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:56:31 -0800
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Subject:      Re: PLEASE resend messages to me
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> since I've had trouble with my email accout, I didn't get any list
> message for abt. 3 days now.
> I modified my filter and forwarding setup, so that the problem is now
> (temporarily) solved.
> Could you please resend messages to me if you wrote
> Re: Accton Ethernet card or
> Re: Small mouse
> ?
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> --
> Celia & Daniel Hertrich            d.hertrich@gmx.de
> home page:             http://www.daniel-hertrich.de
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here it is

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:57:50 +0100
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              "Bel, Michel" <Michel.Bel@NL.ORIGIN-IT.COM>
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I got them, thanks Alain and other respondents.
Works like a charm.

Another note: I plugged in a Clik-Plus, ( flash card reader, parallell port
connector, PCMCIA connector etc)  which I bought very cheaply, into the
200LX and ran LXCIC just to see what happened . This identified the PCMCIA
card as some kind of ATA card, not a parallell port or something like that.
I will look into it some more to see if I can get it working as an ATA
device, an report here.

Michel

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 11:53:21 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:56:31 -0800, USER 1 <camba1@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> >
> > Could you please resend messages to me if you wrote
> > Re: Accton Ethernet card or
> > Re: Small mouse
> > ?
> >
> > Thank you very much!
>
> here it is
>

Witzbold! :-)

GTX
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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:50:28 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> With an Accton network card, it works well on a 1x. I wouldn't call it
> fast, but it's not bad.

Using it over ethernet was exactly what I had in mind. Of course, that
assumes that Santa brings me an LX-compatible ethernet card, but I've got
a feeling he will :-)

> I would say give it a try and see how it works for you.  The author
> recommends using the blowfish cypher on slower machines as it is less cpu
> intensive.

Anyone fancy optimizing the Blowfish cipher in assmbly language? <g>


Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:01:39 -0600
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In-Reply-To:  <20001218205634.B30427@shot.org> from "Francois Gurin" at Dec 18,
              2000 08:56:35 PM
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> > How to solve following problem: HP 200LX connected to a network and I
> > want to connect to a FTP server installed on a workstation. But this
> > workstation gets the IP address from a DHCP server and therefore I only
> > know the workstations computer name. So by knowing the computer name,
> > how can I get to know the IP address by using 200LX- so I can connect
> > to the installed FTP server?

I have a similar situation at work, when I want to connect my DOS-based
lab computers to my desktop workstation.  I usually just check the IP
address on my desktop using WINIPCFG, then use the actual address in my
command line, e.g., ftp 192.168.0.16

Even though we run DHCP, since we don't cycle off our computers very
often, the assigned address rarely changes.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:18:12 -0500
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              Jon Barrett <jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET>
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I don't know the original source - posting didn't identify it, but:

For the first bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
See if they can do it again.
For the second bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
Ask them how they did it and
See if they can do it again.

For the third bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
Try to reproduce it
Ask them how they did it and
See if they can do it again.

For the fourth bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
Run with the debugger
Try to reproduce it
Ask them how they did it and
See if they can do it again.

For the fifth bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
Ask for a dump
Run with the debugger
Try to reproduce it
Ask them how they did it and
See if they can do it again.

For the sixth bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
Reinstall the software
Ask for a dump
Run with the debugger
Try to reproduce it
Ask them how they did it and
See if they can do it again.

For the seventh bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
Say they need an upgrade
Reinstall the software
Ask for a dump
Run with the debugger
Try to reproduce it
Ask them how they did it and
See if they can do it again.

For the eighth bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
Find a way around it
Say they need an upgrade
Reinstall the software
Ask for a dump
Run with the debugger
Try to reproduce it
Ask them how they did it and
See if they can do it again.

For the ninth bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
Blame it on the hardware
Find a way around it
Say they need an upgrade
Reinstall the software
Ask for a dump
Run with the debugger
Try to reproduce it
Ask them how they did it and
See if they can do it again.

For the tenth bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
Change the documentation
Blame it on the hardware
Find a way around it
Say they need an upgrade
Reinstall the software
Ask for a dump
Run with the debugger
Try to reproduce it
Ask them how they did it and
See if they can do it again.

For the eleventh bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
Say it's not supported
Change the documentation
Blame it on the hardware
Find a way around it
Say they need an upgrade
Reinstall the software
Ask for a dump
Run with the debugger
Try to reproduce it
Ask them how they did it and
See if they can do it again.

For the twelfth bug of Christmas, my manager said to me
Tell them it's a feature
Say it's not supported
Change the documentation
Blame it on the hardware
Find a way around it
Say they need an upgrade
Reinstall the software
Ask for a dump
Run with the debugger
Try to reproduce it
Ask them how they did it and
See if they can do it again.

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 06:44:48 -0800
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<<
Hi!  I was able to back up my palmtop onto a Win3.1 machine years ago, and be
able to work on items on the PC as well as the palmtop.  With Win NT, I've only
found software that'll let me back up my HP200LX into a compressed file on the
PC.  If something happens to my palmtop, all I have is this compressed file.  Is
there updated software out there that'll allow me to synch?
>>

Get a copy of the HP Connectivity Package.  Try www.thaddeus.com ... they may
still have some copies.  The application that runs on the desktop looks
something like the LX applications, so you'd be able to use it to both transfer
the data and work with it on the desktop.

There's also ZIP on the SUPER site, but I've never used it myself ... that's
transfer only, I believe.

I don't think there's any software that does automatic synching, at least not
like the Pilot, tho you'd probably be able to use some transfer software in
conjunction with a batch file to do so.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:23:50 +0100
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              HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>
> Hi All,
>
> I am finally using WWW/LX ver 3.1  and am having problems getting
> connected.
> I'm using the standard stock CIS login that comes with WWW/LX  (CIS =
Classic
> account) and I get the following....
>
> Connected 19,200
>
> Sending login
> GOT!  %$!&@%*&@()*!)@@)@!)_! type characters for a line and half

You mean the up/down arrows. If it is longer than half a line it means
the handshaking procedure does not establish a connection.

Try a www -11 >log.txt
which creates a log file of your connect attempt and see if you can
read something out of it.
From your posting in CIS PALMTOP I gather that you have to enter DNS
adresses into your config

DNS_IP=3D149.174.211.5
DNS2_IP=3D149.174.213.5

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:37:24 -0500
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More juice than what? :)

I doubt that the software has anything to do with it, and
didn't mean it to be construed as such.

Mention of the software made my post similar to word
problems in school which contained info. not necessary to
solve the problem. :)

Ron

>
> Using www/lx and post/lx takes more juice? really?
>
> At 12/15/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >Yes, with WWW/LX & POST/LX.  AC adapter is a must.
> >Otherwise, no problems.
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Subject:      Re: News server access
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That would be a function of HV. Most of these services want to use at least
JavaScript, and more. These items are not supported by HV.

At 12/19/00 +1300, you wrote:
>Won't www/lx allow you to interact with browser based commercial
>services?
>Tony
>PS.  I am not a www/lx user so I am asking as an interested
>bystander.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf
>Of
>Colin Cohen
>Sent: Saturday, 16 December 2000 12:21
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject: News server access
>
>
>I have not had access to the list via the News Server for over 2
>weeks?  Is it down?
>
>I can pick up replies via the Digest.
>
>Citibank advised today that they would no longer allow non browser
>access to their online banking something I have used the 200LX for
>these past 8 years.
>
>Yet another door is closing on our world!
>
>Colin
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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:16:17 -0600
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In-Reply-To:  <5.0.2.1.2.20001219100240.00aa6b00@mail.alwaysafe.com> from
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> >Citibank advised today that they would no longer allow non browser
> >access to their online banking something I have used the 200LX for
> >these past 8 years.
> >
> >Yet another door is closing on our world!

Colin:

Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind elaborating, what type of
service were you accessing, and using what non-browser protocol?
Telnet, ftp, nntp, etc.?

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:12:44 -0700
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> I have not had access to the list via the News Server for over 2
> weeks?  Is it down?

The error message I get indicates the disk is full, so, yes, pretty much
down.

It's not as convenient, but you can read the current message threads from
my archive site at http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/current/threads.html


Regards,
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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:24:51 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

what is the most PE-like editor that supports a mouse?

With PE-like I mean especially: Zoom modes, macro capability, PAL
graphics, flexibility...

Syntax highlightning for LaTeX and C would be ideal...

GTX
daniel

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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> ... a lead to find a case that will open like the palmtop does, the
smaller the
> better.  I don't want one where the palmtop has to be removed from the
case for
> use, or one that is the size of a small suitcase.

Sally, search the Web for the Kensington Palmtop Wetsuit. It's black
neoprene (what wetsuits are made of) and form-fitting to your palmtop, to
which it can attach using Velcro (supplied). It closes with a zipper on
three sides, and has a zippered pocket.

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:13:01 -0700
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Just a comment to all about HP, they are forcing all there employees
to take 1 week of vacation this coming January...

As for contract employees, they plan on paring there work from 5 days
a week to 4 days. The dot.coms have bombed and it looks like these big
fellows are about to take a big HIT as well!

As far as HP stock goes, The bottom has not been reached as of yet.

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              Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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I would point out that the problems computer makers are having is
related to the price of oil.  The more people spend on oil...the less
they can spend on other things like computers.  Wall street should have
seen this train wreck long ago when the price of oil went through the
roof.  When comsumers pay $1.74/gallon to heat their homes...every
industry is going to be hurt when comsumers have less money to spend.

Also HP slit their own throat when they discontinued the hp200lx.
(this is an hp200lx newsgroup...had to work the 200lx in their somewhere.)

HP would be making a ton of money if they were selling an updated hp200lx
(faster processor, color display, backlighting, same size and battery life,
same
operating system).

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Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive

I had posted an earlier message to the list detailing Scott's
lack of response. I never saw it appear on the list--perhaps
it got lost in transit or the server lost it.

Despite Scott's politeness and helpfulness in the beginning,
I am still in possession of a dead Zip drive as a result of
his packaging it solely in a padded envelope, and the only
message I've received from him since that happened is after
I first posted news of this to the list.

I sent him a money order; he sent me a Zip drive in a padded
envelope, with no other packaging, and it was DOA.

I'm definitely not a satisfied customer of his.

These are the facts; draw your own conclusions.

Mark Shields
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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:05:30 -0800
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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I did see the message, but no replies from Scott.

Scott, you might want to make this one right. There's no telling how many
customers you'll lose otherwise...

Thanks,

Philippe

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From: "Mark Shields" <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive


> I had posted an earlier message to the list detailing Scott's
> lack of response. I never saw it appear on the list--perhaps
> it got lost in transit or the server lost it.
>
> Despite Scott's politeness and helpfulness in the beginning,
> I am still in possession of a dead Zip drive as a result of
> his packaging it solely in a padded envelope, and the only
> message I've received from him since that happened is after
> I first posted news of this to the list.
>
> I sent him a money order; he sent me a Zip drive in a padded
> envelope, with no other packaging, and it was DOA.
>
> I'm definitely not a satisfied customer of his.
>
> These are the facts; draw your own conclusions.
>
> Mark Shields
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> http://www.stmattpitt.org
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> "Whoever welcomes Me welcomes not Me but the One who sent Me."
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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:54:03 -0800
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At 12/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
>More juice than what? :)

More than a vegematic? :-)

>I doubt that the software has anything to do with it, and
>didn't mean it to be construed as such.

Ok, that was really what I was inquiring about... I agree with the
asserting on the software, although, if the software works, then you may be
doing A LOT more with the palmtop ... :)

>Mention of the software made my post similar to word
>problems in school which contained info. not necessary to
>solve the problem. :)

Good, I consider unsolved, and solved - all at the same time heh? :-) Kinda
works out like that, no?

I wish you Happy Holidays!!!

Avi

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:07:45 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Fluff HP Problems
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At 12/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I would point out that the problems computer makers are having is
>related to the price of oil.  The more people spend on oil...the less
>they can spend on other things like computers.  Wall street should have
>seen this train wreck long ago when the price of oil went through the
>roof.  When comsumers pay $1.74/gallon to heat their homes...every
>industry is going to be hurt when comsumers have less money to spend.

I think the problems of the computer makers relates to the general slowing
down of the economy. The dot.coms are one issue - having lived in a
delusion that money grows on trees and that you just need to go to the
backyard and shake the "money trees"... Profits? Realistic P/E Ratios?
Revenues? What is that?

Another part of the slowdown is the oil prices, another is the politics -
the previous administration pumped lots of "incentives" into the economy to
make it look good for the voters. Time is up, the voters have spoken (but
variably and possibly ignored <G>)

Worldwide, the economic state is tightly connected to oil prices, but also
to technology.

HP is a huge supplier of technology companies, and they slowed down, so HP
must shrink. Why they did not plan for a less rich day is arguably a
failing of the internal geeks, or perhaps just their intentional omission -
take the bonuses and run...

>Also HP slit their own throat when they discontinued the hp200lx.
>(this is an hp200lx newsgroup...had to work the 200lx in their somewhere.)

the 200LX provided a mere nit to the income at HP in its best days. I doubt
that economically it was slitting a throat to dump the 200LX. However,
strategically it was a mistake. But an even larger mistake is the adoption
of a loser platform like WinCE.

>HP would be making a ton of money if they were selling an updated hp200lx
>(faster processor, color display, backlighting, same size and battery life,
>same operating system).

Make money yes. Profitably, probably, but I doubt it would make a
difference in the state of the company as a whole - they would probably
still force everyone to take a week off in January.

   Avi

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Date:         Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:42:17 -0600
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>>what is the most PE-like editor that supports a mouse?<<

I've tried VDE with a cirque glide pad and it worked. VDE has zoom modes and
macros and is configurable. I quit upgrading after version 1.86a. I think
the later versions <may> have overcome the 64K data file limitation.

.ed.

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Date:         Wed, 20 Dec 2000 07:58:35 -0000
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Are you using a numeric address for the POP3 or the name (e.g.
pop.compuserve.com).   If the latter then while the address could be
correct, the entries you have for the DNS servers may be wrong.  In many
ISPs I believe the DNS servers need to match the dial-up number used (i.e. a
different dial-up may require a different DNS server number).   Some it just
works but you may be going twice round the (electronic) planet to do DNS
lookups.   You can check this by using the numeric format of the POP3 server
name.

I have...for the mailhost for Compuserve the POP server is
'pop.compuserve.com', and in the locale I seem to have a primary DNS of
149.174.211.5 and secondary of 195.232.1.7.   If I recall this was because I
found I was getting different ones back from Compuserve.   A good way to
check is always to use a Win95 or whatever system with any ISP-supplied
software and then use ipconfig or winipcfg to see what the ISP is telling
the PC to use.

You can also get from SUPER some utilities that will allow you to do
NSLOOKUP operations - not sure what they are all called but should be easy
to find - associated with the WATTCP name.   You can then use the ALT-S
escape from GP to a C:\> prompt, and try doing nameserver lookups or PING
the POP server.  I guess you can even telnet to port 110 if you know the POP
commands.

William D.Ll.Brown

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Date:         Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:39:57 +0800
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I am using a Windows 2000 work station and when I need to connect to it
I might even be in another country, so I can't just go and check the IP
address. The interesting thing is that when a ping 'computer name'
using a Windows PC on the network, I get a reply with the IP address.
But when I use the 200LX and ping the computer name, it doesn't work.
So has Microsoft really an extra feature in their ping- or what?

Jorgen

> On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 07:46:26PM +0800, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
> > How to solve following problem: HP 200LX connected to a network and I
> > want to connect to a FTP server installed on a workstation. But this
> > workstation gets the IP address from a DHCP server and therefore I =
only
> > know the workstations computer name. So by knowing the computer name,
> > how can I get to know the IP address by using 200LX- so I can connect
> > to the installed FTP server?
>
> I thought about this for a bit, and while i came up with a dozen crazy
> solutions depending on the workstation os and what the computer name
> is (my best guess would be windows, the computer name being it's smb
> identity).
>
> But the only thing i can come up  with which should work in most
> situations is getting a dyndns.com domain name (or similar service)
> and running the auto-update client on the workstation.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> --francois
>

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All prices are AU$
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pcmcia card interface for desktop PC260 (isa) from Actiontec (2 type 2 or 1
type 3) $120

Maxlite pocket modem 14.4 (work on battery) $40

port replicator for libretto 100/110CT $150
power supply for libretto 100/110CT $120
accton 2216 pcmcia network card $120

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Date:         Wed, 20 Dec 2000 07:13:55 -0500
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              Christopher Blackmon <blackmon@NORTELNETWORKS.COM>
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A Meshar wrote:

> the 200LX provided a mere nit to the income at HP in its best days. I doubt
> that economically it was slitting a throat to dump the 200LX. However,
> strategically it was a mistake. But an even larger mistake is the adoption
> of a loser platform like WinCE.

Well... when you (HP) get in bed with Microsoft... you've got to expect to get
screwed sometimes...  ;-)

Christopher.

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Date:         Wed, 20 Dec 2000 09:05:21 -0500
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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In fact, from the looks of the screens and icons, I'd say that Virtual Drive
and CD Copier ARE the same software.  I have been wondering who actually
created the product and who just re-packaged it.

>From: Chris Randle mailto:chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
>Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 2:54 PM
>...
>> IMSI doesn't appear to offer this product anymore (I searched their
website
>> at www.imsisoft.com).
>...
>There is also Virtual CD 3, another shareware product,
>available at http://www.virtualcd-online.com. It sounds as if
>it has identical functionality.

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Date:         Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:12:33 -0600
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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> I am using a Windows 2000 work station and when I need to connect to it
> I might even be in another country, so I can't just go and check the IP
> address.

I think you are refering to my suggestion about checking the DHCP-assigned
IP address, and just using that from your palmtop.  I still think my
suggestion has some merit - if you are leaving the country, or even the
building, where your workstation is, then you are probably leaving it
turned on.  In this case, would not your DHCP-assigned IP address remain
the same?  If you have a coworker shutting down your computer each night,
then perhaps not.  But I will note that our DHCP server has some "memory"
effect;  I can turn my computer off, and then on the next morning and it
will be assigned the same IP address.

One other possibility I thought of in your case would be to just manually
assign an IP address to your single workstation, choosing one that is high
in your range and not likely to be assigned by the DHCP server.  Alternatively
your DHCP server may have the capability to make some assignments "fixed".

> The interesting thing is that when a ping 'computer name'
> using a Windows PC on the network, I get a reply with the IP address.
> But when I use the 200LX and ping the computer name, it doesn't work.
> So has Microsoft really an extra feature in their ping- or what?

In your TCP/IP setup on your 200LX, have you specified a valid nameserver?
Just a thought.

Good luck with your endeavours.  Please report if you arrive at a
satisfactory solution; this situation is fairly common these days.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Wed, 20 Dec 2000 06:37:48 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Tough Times At HP
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Actually, the 5 days off are voluntary, and the contract employee hour cut
varies by area.

Sally
Standard disclaimer:  I work for them, I don't speak for them or they for
me.

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From: Ace Frehley mailto:alaskan@V-WAVE.COM
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:13 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Tough Times At HP


Just a comment to all about HP, they are forcing all there employees
to take 1 week of vacation this coming January...

As for contract employees, they plan on paring there work from 5 days
a week to 4 days. The dot.coms have bombed and it looks like these big
fellows are about to take a big HIT as well!

As far as HP stock goes, The bottom has not been reached as of yet.

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I have held off commenting on this thread, but feel I must add my experience
with Scott. Please bear with the following long post.

In early November, I purchased a 20MB flash card from him, which he has said
in posts to the list will work in the 95LX. The card arrived promptly, in
bubble pack in a padded envelope ($0.99 postage). The card was in working
order, and will work in a 200LX, but it did not work in my 95LX (the screen
blanked or froze, requiring a Crtl-Shift-On reboot). I immediately emailed
Scott, telling him this and asking to return the card for a refund. Scott
replied that I just needed the right drivers, and should post a request on
the list. To that I replied that I had the SunDisk drivers, but the card
didn't work. I asked Scott if he knew which drivers were required and if he
knew of someone who was using the card in a 95LX. Scott replied that he had
"sold these cards to quite a few people in the past that use HP95LX's," but
he was not sure what drivers were needed.

At this point, I posted a question on the list, explaining my problem. I got
one serious response, suggesting that it was a power problem. I then decided
to sell the card, posted a FS to the list, and got several responses. In the
end, I was able to trade the card to another list member for a 5MB SunDisk
card and a 10MB Epson-branded SunDisk card. Both cards work in my 95LX with
the drivers I have.

Because I was able to get other cards, I did not push the issue with Scott.
I would note that Scott never offered to take a return on the card. I would
also note that since the time Mark Shields posted about his problems with
the Zip drive, Scott has reposted his FS several times without any changes.

I would conclude that if you want to buy from Scott, insist beforehand that
he will accept a return for a refund if the item arrives DOA or does not
work as advertised.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 7:55 PM
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...

These are the facts; draw your own conclusions.

Mark Shields

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I ran out of space in my appt.adb function yesterday. File is just over
300k. When I tried to "Extract" 1998 I got an "Error-Record not found" and
the task terminates. I also tried to "Remove" with the same result. I then
tried to "Merge" into a newly created Appt book. same error. I then tried
to "Merge" a newly created appt book into the current one. This worked (no
error) (and created another file named "appt.ad$" that after renaming, to
.adb opened OK as identical to the original (including Errors)) but did not
fix the errors as I tried the "Extract" again with the same error. dbcheck
shows "Invalid date in record """, same with Time, Link errors to records
that don't exist, invalid values, non existent records, etc.  I manually
deleted 1998 (one day at a time, To Do and Appt). Found that I could not
access June 21-28. Got "Error-Record not found".  Tried Garlic and got an
.adb file that would not open.

I tried to search the archives but it did not seem to work. I seem to
recall that there was a site relating to dbcheck that had advice on
repairing DB files on the LX.

Any help appreciated.

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Hi Ed,

On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:42:17 -0600, Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET> wrote:

> I've tried VDE with a cirque glide pad and it worked. VDE has zoom modes and
> macros and is configurable. I quit upgrading after version 1.86a. I think
> the later versions <may> have overcome the 64K data file limitation.

Thanks a lot!!
I downloaded VDE and it seems to be exactly what I was looking for.
This reply is written with VDE. A very comfortable editor with lots of features.
It's still a little bit unfamiliar for me, due to the different key
assignments etc (I used PE before). But I can get used to it, I think.

I love the mode without any Function key line or status line on the screen,
only the text and the menu only if I call it with the menu key! :-)

One thing I'm really missing is the excellent search capability of PE.

GTX
daniel

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> I tried to search the archives but it did not seem to work. I seem to
> recall that there was a site relating to dbcheck that had advice on
> repairing DB files on the LX.

This may not relate to your search, but I thought I would re-mention a
couple things about the archives. The current search engine does have some
limitations which cause a lot of searches of the archives to fail.

The big one is don't use any common words in your search. The engine
should ignore them, but instead it causes a segmentation fault, and you
get nothing. For example, searching for "convert to csv" will not work
because the word "to" is too common. Just search for "convert csv" and
you'll get a number of hits.

The second most common problem I see is searching for words with a period
('.') in them. For example, searching for "filer.ini" will not get any
results. The search engine indexer treats the period as a sentence break,
and so this is indexed as two words. Searching for "filer ini" will yield
a number of hits.

There is a new version of the search engine that corrects both of these
problems, but the indexing step needs large amounts of memory, and the
indexes created are much larger than the version I have running. I need to
determine if the current system can handle it.

If the problem you have isn't one of the above I would appreciate your
letting me know, and I will try to correct it.

Regards,
Mike Kopplin

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Hi friends, especially Ed,

My Cirque Glide Point doesn't work with VDE, although it works
with the DOS EDIT.COM and with several other programs.
I tried the cute mouse driver and the Glide Point driver - but I
don't get any mouse pointer on the VDE screen.

in VINST I have selected "T" for "Test for mouse driver" and I
also tried the setting "Y" for Yes.

Does anyone have a clue what the reason could be?

Thanks

daniel

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Date:         Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:22:12 -0500
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Not sure if it has been mentioned before, but this helps a lot when using the
dictionary on the lx. The display is much more readable:

mode bw80
cole1
mode bw80

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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 06:39:57PM +0800, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
> I am using a Windows 2000 work station and when I need to connect to it
> I might even be in another country, so I can't just go and check the IP
> address. The interesting thing is that when a ping 'computer name'
> using a Windows PC on the network, I get a reply with the IP address.
> But when I use the 200LX and ping the computer name, it doesn't work.
> So has Microsoft really an extra feature in their ping- or what?


welps, if you register a dynamic domain name from dyns.com (free), download
and install their win2000 client, then you'd always be able to reach the
workstataion so long as it's powered up.

for example, if you register jorgen.dyndns.com at dyndns.com, and install
the client, everytime your dhcp lease expires and your IP changes, the
client will update the name servers and jorgen.dyndns.com will reflect the
workstation's current IP address at all times!

--francois

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              Oliver Chua <bud@MINDGATE.NET>
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William,

Thank you for the response but I'm sure I have the correct DNS server and
POP server names.  Using the same IP configurations, I was able to setup
Nettamer with no hitch.  My first choice would still be Going Postal since
its free and I only simply need the email part.  Any other suggestions?

regards,
Oliver

Brown, William blah, blah, blahed ...
>Are you using a numeric address for the POP3 or the name (e.g.
>pop.compuserve.com).   If the latter then while the address could be
>correct, the entries you have for the DNS servers may be wrong.  In many
>ISPs I believe the DNS servers need to match the dial-up number used (i.e. a
>different dial-up may require a different DNS server number).   Some it just
>works but you may be going twice round the (electronic) planet to do DNS
>lookups.   You can check this by using the numeric format of the POP3 server
>name.
>
>I have...for the mailhost for Compuserve the POP server is
>'pop.compuserve.com', and in the locale I seem to have a primary DNS of
>149.174.211.5 and secondary of 195.232.1.7.   If I recall this was because I
>found I was getting different ones back from Compuserve.   A good way to
>check is always to use a Win95 or whatever system with any ISP-supplied
>software and then use ipconfig or winipcfg to see what the ISP is telling
>the PC to use.
>
>You can also get from SUPER some utilities that will allow you to do
>NSLOOKUP operations - not sure what they are all called but should be easy
>to find - associated with the WATTCP name.   You can then use the ALT-S
>escape from GP to a C:\> prompt, and try doing nameserver lookups or PING
>the POP server.  I guess you can even telnet to port 110 if you know the POP
>commands.
>
>William D.Ll.Brown
>
>
>

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Scott,
Until you resolve the problem with Mark you probably not sell much to the
rest of us.

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Dennis Vest wrote:

> Scott,
> Until you resolve the problem with Mark you probably not sell much to the
> rest of us.
>
> Dennis
>
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Before this gets settled you may want to watch your local news.  Apparently
some news photogs were filming deicing at an airport (Chicago I believe) and
caught some workers from the post office playing basketball with packages
that were being shipped, with no concern over whether they were marked
fragile.

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Date:         Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:45:05 -0500
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I am not sure what to call this: Blindness, arrogance - I
dunno...

information Week of December 18-25, 2000 on page 28-29 has a
two-page ad by Microsoft. It depicts on the left side a
Windoes 95 blue screen of death <G>... The familiar, "a fatal
exception occurred at ..." and the familar prompt, hit any key
to terminate current app, or press CTL-ALT-DEL and lose data
bla bla...

The ad reads, in part: Goodbye Blue screen, gello Reliable
microsoft 2000 professional.

What I find incredible is that a compan can turn its own
incompetent code into an advertising gain. Is this what:
Arrogance? Blindness? I am really not sure... What a strange
world Microsoft lives in.

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Unfortunately people keep buying this buggy software.  In an ideal world
people would learn of all the bugs in xxxxx program  and refuse to buy
it.  If people refused to buy buggy software these companies would stop
making it.  Unfortunately too many people rush out and buy the latest
junk.

Consumers need to start saying I'll buy this software when it is bug
free.

A Meshar wrote:

> I am not sure what to call this: Blindness, arrogance - I
> dunno...
>
> information Week of December 18-25, 2000 on page 28-29 has a
> two-page ad by Microsoft. It depicts on the left side a
> Windoes 95 blue screen of death <G>... The familiar, "a fatal
> exception occurred at ..." and the familar prompt, hit any key
> to terminate current app, or press CTL-ALT-DEL and lose data
> bla bla...
>
> The ad reads, in part: Goodbye Blue screen, gello Reliable
> microsoft 2000 professional.
>
> What I find incredible is that a compan can turn its own
> incompetent code into an advertising gain. Is this what:
> Arrogance? Blindness? I am really not sure... What a strange
> world Microsoft lives in.
>
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Date:         Thu, 21 Dec 2000 07:34:41 +0100
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the consumers cannot evaluate when th e software is bug free. What about the
alternatives Linux ? what else ?? Where is their marketing for the consumers
society ? contolled by MS ??

Too, many questions

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Sent: Donnerstag, Dezember 21, 2000 6.32 Uhr
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Subject: Re: What is this?


Unfortunately people keep buying this buggy software.  In an ideal world
people would learn of all the bugs in xxxxx program  and refuse to buy
it.  If people refused to buy buggy software these companies would stop
making it.  Unfortunately too many people rush out and buy the latest
junk.

Consumers need to start saying I'll buy this software when it is bug
free.

A Meshar wrote:

> I am not sure what to call this: Blindness, arrogance - I
> dunno...
>
> information Week of December 18-25, 2000 on page 28-29 has a
> two-page ad by Microsoft. It depicts on the left side a
> Windoes 95 blue screen of death <G>... The familiar, "a fatal
> exception occurred at ..." and the familar prompt, hit any key
> to terminate current app, or press CTL-ALT-DEL and lose data
> bla bla...
>
> The ad reads, in part: Goodbye Blue screen, gello Reliable
> microsoft 2000 professional.
>
> What I find incredible is that a compan can turn its own
> incompetent code into an advertising gain. Is this what:
> Arrogance? Blindness? I am really not sure... What a strange
> world Microsoft lives in.
>
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Date:         Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:23:26 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

a few weeks ago, I found an ad by Microsoft (also a whole
double-page) in a computer magazine that looked like the
following:

a few large cute penguins, but none of them had a panguin
head, but all had different heads. One penguin had the head
of a crocodile, one a head of a frog...

And the text said something like "these are the
disadvantages of an open operating system" or so (I don't
remember exactly what the text was, but it was clearly an
attack against Linux).

That means to me, that MS finally realized that Linux is a
real competitor! :-)

GTX
daniel


On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 07:34:41 +0100, Michael Berrier
<m_berrier@GMX.DE> wrote:

> the consumers cannot evaluate when th e software is bug free. What about the
> alternatives Linux ? what else ?? Where is their marketing for the consumers
> society ? contolled by MS ??
>

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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:18:12 +0000 (GMT), Russel Brooks wrote:

Russ

> It's pretty quiet out there...
>
> So, what does everyone want for christmas? ..for their LX of course!

More ram for my Hplx (Have only 8mb) and more time for me to clean up
all the folders/mailboxes on it :-)

Regards

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Hi,

A good idea, but my network is behind a firewall- so I don't think it
will work or allowed to use this method. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

Jorgen

> On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 06:39:57PM +0800, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
> > I am using a Windows 2000 work station and when I need to connect to =
it
> > I might even be in another country, so I can't just go and check the =
IP
> > address. The interesting thing is that when a ping 'computer name'
> > using a Windows PC on the network, I get a reply with the IP address.
> > But when I use the 200LX and ping the computer name, it doesn't work.
> > So has Microsoft really an extra feature in their ping- or what?
>
> welps, if you register a dynamic domain name from dyns.com (free), =
download
> and install their win2000 client, then you'd always be able to reach =
the
> workstataion so long as it's powered up.
>
> for example, if you register jorgen.dyndns.com at dyndns.com, and =
install
> the client, everytime your dhcp lease expires and your IP changes, the
> client will update the name servers and jorgen.dyndns.com will reflect =
the
> workstation's current IP address at all times!
>
> --francois
>

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Date:         Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:19:18 -0000
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Really the only idea I can offer is to use the Alt-S escape, and then use a
Telnet program (I use MT) and Telnet to the POP server's Port 110.   I'm,
not quite sure how you tell MT what port to use, but I bet you can - and
there are better Telnets. You can work out from GP output the required
commands, but basically it is:

USER (your POP user name)
PASS (you POP password - which will be echoed)
then I think you have commands like LIST, UIDL, TOP n m where n is the
message number and m the number of lines to show, READ n where n is the
message number, and crucially QUIT to get out.

You *may* get more useful information doing it by hand.

I think there's some stuff in the GP manual about servers that require or
must not have the HELO message.   Not sure which bit that comes in - looks
like it is with the ISP not the POP server.  But I have it set to not skip
the HELO.

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hi,

I can ping a windows computername in our network. The DNS does resolve
its adress.
So maybe Chris is right.

Werner



On 20 Dec 2000, at 8:12, Chris Lott wrote:

>
> > The interesting thing is that when a ping 'computer name'
> > using a Windows PC on the network, I get a reply with the IP address.
> > But when I use the 200LX and ping the computer name, it doesn't work.
> > So has Microsoft really an extra feature in their ping- or what?
>
> In your TCP/IP setup on your 200LX, have you specified a valid
> nameserver? Just a thought.



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    A penny saved is ridiculous.

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Date:         Thu, 21 Dec 2000 07:43:44 -0500
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>>>I am using a Windows 2000 work station and when I need to connect to it
I might even be in another country, so I can't just go and check the IP
address. <<<

Your current IP address can set in the W2000 DHCP app as a reservation.

Open the DHCP app and :
  Scope->Reservation->Right Click & Select New Reservation

Just provide your MAC address and the IP address.

It's just that simple.

>>>The interesting thing is that when a ping 'computer name'
using a Windows PC on the network, I get a reply with the IP address.
But when I use the 200LX and ping the computer name, it doesn't work.
So has Microsoft really an extra feature in their ping- or what?  <<<

Your company likely has an internal DNS that is unavailable outside the
firewall.


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Date:         Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:17:49 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Werner,

maybe I don't understand the problem, but when I, using the hp200lx,
ping IKARUS then it returns the IP address the same way as if I use a
Windows Client in the same network.

Here I cannot see any difference.

Kind regards

Helmuth


> hi,
>
> I can ping a windows computername in our network. The DNS does resolve
> its adress.
> So maybe Chris is right.
>
> Werner
>
> On 20 Dec 2000, at 8:12, Chris Lott wrote:
>
> >
> > > The interesting thing is that when a ping 'computer name'
> > > using a Windows PC on the network, I get a reply with the IP =
address.
> > > But when I use the 200LX and ping the computer name, it doesn't =
work.
> > > So has Microsoft really an extra feature in their ping- or what?
> >
> > In your TCP/IP setup on your 200LX, have you specified a valid
> > nameserver? Just a thought.
>
> Thought for the day:
>     A penny saved is ridiculous.
>
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Hello;

     Well I broke down and bought a EN2216-2 Ethernet PC Card.
Got the CRC check failed when testing with the supplied software.
Went to their web site, got their trouble shooting FAQ and newer
versions of the software.  Which cleared up the CRC failure.  The
only remaining nit appears to be the low card battery warnings.
Now back to trying to get on the network.  This list inspires the
oddest little Chritmas projects.

Steve

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> That means to me, that MS finally realized that Linux is a
> real competitor! :-)

I doubt it....judging by linux's performance on wall streeet, it is not a threat
at all.  None of the linux companies are doing well stock wise.

Remember linux only has a small fraction of the market, although several
manufacturers are planning to offer linux.  Micro$oft is probably aiming their ads
at these manufacturers (Dell?  Compaq? , Gateway?).

Linux a real competitor?  No, but it could be in the distant future.

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Would you be able to use a VPN? Check out cipe:
http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/devel/cipe.html

It uses the blowfish algorithm over regular ol' UDP. It should work even
when one machine is behind a NATted packet screening firewall. There's also
third party support for PKI and Win NT. To find the IP of your machine you
can kick off a command line sendmail job every few hours to email the IP
address to some free web based mail account.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Wallgren" <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: 200LX NETWORK QUESTION


Hi,

A good idea, but my network is behind a firewall- so I don't think it
will work or allowed to use this method. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

Jorgen

> On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 06:39:57PM +0800, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
> > I am using a Windows 2000 work station and when I need to connect to it
> > I might even be in another country, so I can't just go and check the IP
> > address. The interesting thing is that when a ping 'computer name'
> > using a Windows PC on the network, I get a reply with the IP address.
> > But when I use the 200LX and ping the computer name, it doesn't work.
> > So has Microsoft really an extra feature in their ping- or what?
>
> welps, if you register a dynamic domain name from dyns.com (free),
download
> and install their win2000 client, then you'd always be able to reach the
> workstataion so long as it's powered up.
>
> for example, if you register jorgen.dyndns.com at dyndns.com, and install
> the client, everytime your dhcp lease expires and your IP changes, the
> client will update the name servers and jorgen.dyndns.com will reflect the
> workstation's current IP address at all times!
>
> --francois
>

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Date:         Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:11:15 -0500
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Try the sequence outlined on my page titled, "Fixing errors in .ADB files"
found at http://www.striegels.com/alan/HPLX/adbfix.html

Alan

From: Joseph Buford mailto:Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 11:11 AM

I tried to search the archives but it did not seem to work. I seem to
recall that there was a site relating to dbcheck that had advice on
repairing DB files on the LX.

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My thanks to all of those whose advice and insight has passed through=20=

on this list.

I have updated my wallpaper collection and it may have some=20
photographs you might find pleasing.

http://leipper.org/tcl/wallpaper/=20


""""
Here are some of our favorite photographs taken during the year 2000=20=

around our
home office. Each group has a catalog of thumbnail pictures. Click on=20=

a thumbnail to
see the full detail photograph. We use these pictures as backgrounds=20=

on our computer
screens.

Views from the Sierra Nevada region near Reno, Nevada - meadows,=20
mountains,
lakes, and clouds

Flowers - fill your screen with a blossom=20

The support staff at headquarters - Elvira, the greyhound; Zinc, Tj,=20=

and Harley the cats;
Toby the parrot; Poohbah, rooster, and temp the chickens

Other - the hp200lx we use to keep track of things, a java bookshelf,=20=

and a slice of
lemon on a glass of iced tea.
""""

There is a picture of an hp200lx at work for relevance! <g>

enjoy, I hope.

--=20
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Alan,

Thanks for the reply. I finally found the correct link for searching the
archives and found your posting of this process. I tried it and was not
successful. I keep getting " Error-Record Not Found" I know where the
problem is 6-27-98 but cannot access the data to delete it. I've tried
merging, synchronizing, and xlating with no help.

The original file is ~240k after I deleted all I could from 1998. It still
opens & runs fine, but dbcheck says it has errors and when I try to remove
data (like 1998) I get the "record not found" error and the process stops.
I am still trying to fix it using garlic /v and the merge functions.

BTW- in the past I have repaired notepads and phonebooks by using the merge
function as well as world time using garlic. So far this one is KMB!!!

ALL SUGGESTIONS APPRECIATED!!!!

Joe




"Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM> on 12/21/2000 08:11:15 AM

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Subject:  RE: Appt book corruption


Try the sequence outlined on my page titled, "Fixing errors in .ADB files"
found at http://www.striegels.com/alan/HPLX/adbfix.html

Alan

From: Joseph Buford mailto:Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 11:11 AM

I tried to search the archives but it did not seem to work. I seem to
recall that there was a site relating to dbcheck that had advice on
repairing DB files on the LX.

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Hi everyone.
I came across these two GSM phones: Nokia 6150 and Nokia 9110i (communicator).

What can I do with them and my HP200LX?

Are there any commuication programs for the palmtop, eg. to transfer data
from the Nokia mobiles via IR or cable, and (perhaps) to translate Nokia
Addresses/numbers to/from GDB files?

Thanx for reading

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Checked out your pics! Very beautiful flowers and cats and scenery. What
are you using to create the image map? I like that format to catalog pics
thumnails...

 > I have updated my wallpaper collection and it may have some
>photographs you might find pleasing.
>
>http://leipper.org/tcl/wallpaper/

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Russel Brooks wrote:

> I want the CRC tool to help identify which files have changed since the
> last backup so I only need transfer changed files.  (For other reasons I
> cannot completely rely on the DOS "A"ttribute bit.)

Russ,

    In "PC Magazine C Lab Notes" there are two programs that might
be of interest to you.  "SYNC displays a synchronized listing of two
directories, graphically showing the difference between the two.
SYNC also provides keystroke commands that will let you copy indi-
vidual files between the directories, or automatically copy all the
files necessary to make both directories equal."  Sort of like a
Filer app that has some date sense.  "UP2DATE compares the contents
of multiple directories and subsequently copies the most up-to-date
files to a target directory."

     If the file's date and time are good enough indicators of what
needs to be copied, these might help.

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Hmmm. Since we're playing show-and-tell, here's a link to my new
plamtop-sized human. My daughter was born 12/11.

http://anika.badeddie.com



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From: "Bryan R Leipper" <nvassoc@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:46 AM
Subject: fluff: photo


My thanks to all of those whose advice and insight has passed through
on this list.

I have updated my wallpaper collection and it may have some
photographs you might find pleasing.

http://leipper.org/tcl/wallpaper/


""""
Here are some of our favorite photographs taken during the year 2000
around our
home office. Each group has a catalog of thumbnail pictures. Click on
a thumbnail to
see the full detail photograph. We use these pictures as backgrounds
on our computer
screens.

Views from the Sierra Nevada region near Reno, Nevada - meadows,
mountains,
lakes, and clouds

Flowers - fill your screen with a blossom

The support staff at headquarters - Elvira, the greyhound; Zinc, Tj,
and Harley the cats;
Toby the parrot; Poohbah, rooster, and temp the chickens

Other - the hp200lx we use to keep track of things, a java bookshelf,
and a slice of
lemon on a glass of iced tea.
""""

There is a picture of an hp200lx at work for relevance! <g>

enjoy, I hope.

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Amen to that.

Richard.

Dennis Vest wrote:

> Scott,
> Until you resolve the problem with Mark you probably not sell much to the
> rest of us.
>
> Dennis
>
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ico2icn<g>: Manually Converting Windows Icons to HPLX Icons

1. Use IrfanView's to batch conversion feature to pre-process a
   group of ICO files, with the following advanced option settings:

   a. Use Resample function (better quality)
   b. Change color depth to 16 Colors
   c. Convert to greyscale
   d. Convert to Windows Bitmap (BMP)

   Note: Unfortunately, I found IrfanView's resizing function
   unsatisfactory, as it tended to crop or wrap icon edges.

2. Import the 16 color, greyscaled bitmap into a image editing
   program, eg. Photoshop or Canvas.

3. Change the icon's resolution to a width of 44 pixels, and a
   height of 32 pixels.

4. Change the image mode to "black and white", using a pattern
   dither halftone method. Note: in some cases a diffusion may
   dither give better results.

5. Invert the icon's colors, i.e. create a negative image.

6. Export the icon image as a Windows bitmap file.

7. Process the icon bitmap file with the bmp2icn utility.

Special thanks to Bruce Martin for his excellent advice,
please refer to his suggestions for more refined conversions.

Dale Batson

-----Original Message-----

From: Bruce Martin mailto:Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 11:51 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Converting Windows Icons to HPLX Icons

> Does anyone out there know of a technique for converting 'bmp' files into
> a decent black and white dither? Ideally, I like to have a tool which
> intelligently performs all the conversion in one step.  ; )

I haven't found any all-in-one tool to do this yet, but with practice
you'll be able to do this pretty easily with a decent paint program and
bmp2icn.

Open your source image in your paint program, and adjust the
brightness/contrast, saturation and gamma to get the highest contrast for
your detail using the minimum number of colors. Then use a threshold or
dither tool (a 2x2 Ordered Dither usually works best) to render it B&W
only. If the image size is less than 44Wx32H, create a new picture at 44x32
and copy the image content into it. If the image size is greater than
44x32, you'll have to scale or crop it. Finally, reverse the image to
negative and save as a .BMP. *Then* you can use BMP2ICN to convert it to an
.ICN for the palmtop. Alternatively, you can leave the image as a positive,
save it to .PCX, then use PCX2ICN to convert it. (I believe that the .ICN
format is really .IMG with a different extension, but I haven't tested
this.) Either way, it must leave your paint program as a 2-color (B&W)
image, exactly 44 pixels wide by 32 pixels tall.

If you really want to save yourself the trouble, you might find the icon
you want among the over 1,000 at the S.U.P.E.R Icon Server:
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons or in my collection of Win icons
for X-Finder at: http//www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/xfwinicn.zip

Alternatively, you could e-mail your .ICOs to me, and I'll see what I can
do...

Bruce in Toronto

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> Checked out your pics! Very beautiful flowers and cats and scenery.=20=

What
> are you using to create the image map? I like that format to catalog=20=

pics
> thumnails...

thanks for the kind words. I am using an orphan graphics program=20
called Embellish. It is available for Windows 95 and OS/2 and has been=20=

released as an orphan. It is a decent image editing program and=20
provides image mapping for web pages. It also provided the catalog of=20=

thumbnail images.

I am not sure where you can find the software - maybe leo or some=20
other file repository?

Good luck.

--=20
Bryan
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I just saw a copy of the DOS version at ExchangeHQ  in the
box. They are
<www.exchangehq.com> 326 SE Morrison (IE MLKing Blvd under
the Morrison Bridge)
Portland,Or. 97232 503-231-2739 <sales@exchangehq.com>



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Folks,

There was much discussion of running Project management
software on the hp 200lx recently. Someone said they were
running CA SuperProject 2.0 for DOS on their 200lx.

I just saw 3 copies of CA SuperProject for Windows & OS/2 at
ExchangeHQ for $17.99 new in the box. I don't know if the
file formats are the same, but if they are it might be
usefull for a desktop of someone who has the DOS version.

BTW Does anyone have a source for SuperProject for DOS?

They are
<www.exchangehq.com> 326 SE Morrison (IE MLKing Blvd under
the Morrison Bridge)
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Hi friends and list members,

Two Things:

I just wanted to wish you and yours a very happy and peaceful holiday
season. =


I am also compelled, for some reason as I don't have a dog in this fight
(translation:  I have no special interests) to comment about Scott's
apparent poor treatment of Mark.  I've never bought anything from Scott b=
ut
his behavior is disturbing me. He enjoys access to a great list filled wi=
th
terrific people who buy his stuff. The poor wrapping has been an ongoing
problem, I recall this issue surfaced about a year ago and apparently has=

never been adequately resolved.    =


Would I be wrong in suggesting that Scott be prohibited from posting unti=
l
he makes this good?  =


I realize this may be too strong for some folks, please forgive me, but I=

hate to see the atmosphere of collegiality upset by this incident or me f=
or
that matter.

All the best,
Tom

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Joseph.Buford

Instead of deleting the offending record in ApptBook, try extracting
(archiving) all records prior to the date and do the same for all those
after the date. Blow away the offending file and merge the archive files
back into a working master file.

If you've tried this already, sorry for the repeat of the suggestion. It's
worked for me in the past.

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After reading this I went to super but for version 187a
could a error message instead of the program.

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:42:17 -0600, Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET> wrote:
>
> > I've tried VDE with a cirque glide pad and it worked. VDE has zoom modes and
> > macros and is configurable. I quit upgrading after version 1.86a. I think
> > the later versions <may> have overcome the 64K data file limitation.
>
> Thanks a lot!!
> I downloaded VDE and it seems to be exactly what I was looking for.
> This reply is written with VDE. A very comfortable editor with lots of features.
> It's still a little bit unfamiliar for me, due to the different key
> assignments etc (I used PE before). But I can get used to it, I think.
>
> I love the mode without any Function key line or status line on the screen,
> only the text and the menu only if I call it with the menu key! :-)
>
> One thing I'm really missing is the excellent search capability of PE.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
> --
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Patrick west wrote:
> After reading this I went to super but for version 187a
> could a error message instead of the program.

It should be lowercase vde in http://www.punky.com/vde/

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...I have these items for sale....

...and the people I have worked with have been just great! Thanks alot!

...It's nice to meet you...

Week after week, I'm being brainwashed! It seems like I keep getting
email from a machine. Scott, are you always grinning? Give some
indication that you are something other than a mechanical device wound
up with a spring that keeps ticking away. Throw a flame, break a hinge,
wire the DC jack to 117VAC, then ask the list how to fix it.

but...

...I have these items for sale....
...It's nice to meet you...

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what do we want for Chrismas ??

What do we really want for Christmas ? We really  want the re-engagement of
HP for the LX , future version. More RAm and of course the backlight
version. other companies like Siemens (?? 35) , Psion and others are still
counting on the DOS?  version of their equipment, there is a market for such
types of organizers/Pocket PC. It is not all about WIN CE equipment.

all the best for the coming days, a lot of quietful time to do what needs to
be done .

Merry Christmas to the list from Michael Berrier / Schwabach !!!

-----Original Message-----
From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn Behalf Of
Martin Bergvill
Sent: Donnerstag, Dezember 21, 2000 11.06 Uhr
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Quiet


On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:18:12 +0000 (GMT), Russel Brooks wrote:

Russ

> It's pretty quiet out there...
>
> So, what does everyone want for christmas? ..for their LX of course!

More ram for my Hplx (Have only 8mb) and more time for me to clean up
all the folders/mailboxes on it :-)

Regards

--
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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 05:42:26 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hi Robert, No I am not a mechanical deivce and Yes! I have been serving
this list for almost 2 years now and I have sold hundrerds of  PCMCIA disks
and compact flash disks as well as alot of other items to many HP200LX
users all over the world and it seems so silly  to me that out of all the
great products I have sold people that one maybe two items have been
damaged in the process of our postal department and  now some people just
want to flame me. Well honestly I  know in my heart that I have helped
hundreds of people on our list and they have been very happy with my
service and I am sorry that some people have to lash out this way but I
know in my  that I have always done my best and will continue to do so
because they are still alot of people out there who are really happy that I
am here to help them. Thanks alot for your  input and I hope everyone on
our list has a wonderful and Merry Christmas!  Scott

"Robert K. Meyer" wrote:

> ...I have these items for sale....
>
> ...and the people I have worked with have been just great! Thanks alot!
>
> ...It's nice to meet you...
>
> Week after week, I'm being brainwashed! It seems like I keep getting
> email from a machine. Scott, are you always grinning? Give some
> indication that you are something other than a mechanical device wound
> up with a spring that keeps ticking away. Throw a flame, break a hinge,
> wire the DC jack to 117VAC, then ask the list how to fix it.
>
> but...
>
> ...I have these items for sale....
> ...It's nice to meet you...
>
> --
> +--------------------+-----------------+
> |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
> |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
> |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
> +--------------------+-----------------+
> |   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
> +--------------------------------------+
>
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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:25:26 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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If Scott doesn't treat you right he should be barred from advertising
here again.
1) He must take back the damaged drive
2) He must either send a refund or a new drive properly packaged
3) He must start packaging his items properly or start offering refunds
if they are DOA.

John

> I had posted an earlier message to the list detailing Scott's
> lack of response. I never saw it appear on the list--perhaps
> it got lost in transit or the server lost it.
>
> Despite Scott's politeness and helpfulness in the beginning,
> I am still in possession of a dead Zip drive as a result of
> his packaging it solely in a padded envelope, and the only
> message I've received from him since that happened is after
> I first posted news of this to the list.
>
> I sent him a money order; he sent me a Zip drive in a padded
> envelope, with no other packaging, and it was DOA.
>
> I'm definitely not a satisfied customer of his.
>
> These are the facts; draw your own conclusions.
>
> Mark Shields
>   |\       _,,,---,,_
>   /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_
>  |,4-  ) )-,_..;\ (  `'-'
> '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)
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> http://www.stmattpitt.org
> "Whoever welcomes a child in My name welcomes Me," Jesus said.
> "Whoever welcomes Me welcomes not Me but the One who sent Me."
>   -Mark 9:37
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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> Join Juno today!  For your FREE software, visit:
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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:25:28 -0500
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              John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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I have started using timetracker to keep track of my time. It is pretty
good. I have two questions. 1) Is there anyway to resume the time on a
record without loosing the orginal start time? The only way I can see
to do it now is to log the start time in the memo 2) What kind of
spreadsheet report does it make? Can the report be directly opened by
the built-in Lotus? Thanks

John

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:25:30 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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From:         John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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Scott

If something is damaged in transit you can always make a claim against
the shipping company. It is a fairly simple straightforward process.
But leaving someone hanging without telling them you didn't send a
power supply and with a damaged product is a no-no. I have considered buying
from you but now won't because I am afraid the product will be 'damaged
in shipping' and I will be stuck with it. Every person I have
delt with simply takes the item back if it gets damaged somehow in
shipping. If things are properly packaged they won't become damaged in
transit anyhow. This has been a recurring question and now has become a
problem. I would suggest you fix it to the customers satisfaction. What
would you be out- 20 bucks? What is 20 dollars compared to loosing
the list's trust! If you have sold 'hundreds' of items you should
realize that you have a sweet deal going and right now you are heading
right into a brick wall.

John


> Hi Robert, No I am not a mechanical deivce and Yes! I have been serving
> this list for almost 2 years now and I have sold hundrerds of  PCMCIA disks
> and compact flash disks as well as alot of other items to many HP200LX
> users all over the world and it seems so silly  to me that out of all the
> great products I have sold people that one maybe two items have been
> damaged in the process of our postal department and  now some people just
> want to flame me. Well honestly I  know in my heart that I have helped
> hundreds of people on our list and they have been very happy with my
> service and I am sorry that some people have to lash out this way but I
> know in my  that I have always done my best and will continue to do so
> because they are still alot of people out there who are really happy that I
> am here to help them. Thanks alot for your  input and I hope everyone on
> our list has a wonderful and Merry Christmas!  Scott
>
> "Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
>
> > ...I have these items for sale....
> >
> > ...and the people I have worked with have been just great! Thanks alot!
> >
> > ...It's nice to meet you...
> >
> > Week after week, I'm being brainwashed! It seems like I keep getting
> > email from a machine. Scott, are you always grinning? Give some
> > indication that you are something other than a mechanical device wound
> > up with a spring that keeps ticking away. Throw a flame, break a hinge,
> > wire the DC jack to 117VAC, then ask the list how to fix it.
> >
> > but...
> >
> > ...I have these items for sale....
> > ...It's nice to meet you...
> >
> > --
> > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
> > |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
> > |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
> > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > |   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
> > +--------------------------------------+
> >
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>
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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:28:44 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
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From:         Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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First, let me say that I've had a good experience ordering from
Scott. Second, let me say to Scott, that Scott, I think that you
are missing the point of all the postings, and your posting does
nothing to help by omitting the most important issue. People are
not complaining about the fact that the item was damaged by the
post office, that could happen to anyone. They are upset over the
lack of resolution of the problem, and your postings don't
address this at all.

I think that you have two choices. You need to either ...

1) Give the guy his money back, or make good in some other way
(trade some other item), and chalk it up to experience with
uninsured mail and tell the list what you did.

or
2) Not give his money back and explain to everyone on the list
your reasoning.


Right now it is a "he said he said" situation, that isn't going
to go away, because from an objective point of view (mine!) you
are both right. If I were Solomon I would cut the Zip drive in
half. You know that you sent a good drive, he knows that it came
broken. You know it was the post office, he knows that it was
"bad packing". You know he didn't choose insurance, he knows it
was unreasonably packed. You know that you didn't mention a power
supply, he knows that a power supply is included in the Zip
package. You can see that you both have valid points of view and
that the blame can't be assined to either one of you.

I really think that you need to take some steps to resolve this.
Bryan




Scott wrote:
>
> Hi Robert, No I am not a mechanical deivce and Yes! I have been serving
> this list for almost 2 years now and I have sold hundrerds of  PCMCIA disks
> and compact flash disks as well as alot of other items to many HP200LX
> users all over the world and it seems so silly  to me that out of all the
> great products I have sold people that one maybe two items have been
> damaged in the process of our postal department and  now some people just
> want to flame me. Well honestly I  know in my heart that I have helped
> hundreds of people on our list and they have been very happy with my
> service and I am sorry that some people have to lash out this way but I
> know in my  that I have always done my best and will continue to do so
> because they are still alot of people out there who are really happy that I
> am here to help them. Thanks alot for your  input and I hope everyone on
> our list has a wonderful and Merry Christmas!  Scott
>
> "Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
>
> > ...I have these items for sale....
> >
> > ...and the people I have worked with have been just great! Thanks alot!
> >
> > ...It's nice to meet you...
> >
> > Week after week, I'm being brainwashed! It seems like I keep getting
> > email from a machine. Scott, are you always grinning? Give some
> > indication that you are something other than a mechanical device wound
> > up with a spring that keeps ticking away. Throw a flame, break a hinge,
> > wire the DC jack to 117VAC, then ask the list how to fix it.
> >
> > but...
> >
> > ...I have these items for sale....
> > ...It's nice to meet you...
> >
> > --
> > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
> > |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
> > |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
> > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > |   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
> > +--------------------------------------+
> >
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>
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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:33:50 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Comments: To: dabeta@alwaysafe.com
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  Merry Christmas & Happy new Year
       Bonne F=EAte & Bonne ann=E9e
Sch=F6ne Wiehnachtn & Es guets Neus
Schene Weihnachtn & Aguats nais Jahr
Frohe Weihnachten & ein gl=FCckliches Neues Jahr

     Kind regards & Herzlicher Gru=DF

               Helmuth

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:37:02 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Linux a real competitor?  No, but it could
> be in the distant future.

I think most of the big companies (MS, Dell, Compaq, IBM, etc) think
that there is no distant future for the PC.  These companies see
intelligent appliances as the future.  Not general purpose
computers.

I don't think anybody is predicting there won't be any more PCs but
they are predicting that PCs will become a smaller and smaller part
of the computerized world.

Barry

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:42:58 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET
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From:         Marc - <zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Motorola StarTac and the 200lx
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Would the lister that posted the information a few weeks ago about
setting up his StarTac ST7868 phone to work with the HP 200lx please
contact me offlist?  I recently purchased this phone and would like to
get it interfaced with my palmtop.

Thanks,

Marcus

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:46:07 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
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One thing can be said about Scott. Once he gets your money, he never, under
any circumstances, will give it back. His postings should state that or he
should be banished from the island. It's time for a tribal council. d;-)

Scott sells at bargain basement prices. As long as the risk of dealing with
him is stated plainly in each post, he provides a valuable service.
Personally I would never deal with him.The best price is not always the best
bargain.

Best Regards,
Tom Salwasser

----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive


>
> First, let me say that I've had a good experience ordering from
> Scott. Second, let me say to Scott, that Scott, I think that you
> are missing the point of all the postings, and your posting does
> nothing to help by omitting the most important issue. People are
> not complaining about the fact that the item was damaged by the
> post office, that could happen to anyone. They are upset over the
> lack of resolution of the problem, and your postings don't
> address this at all.
>
> I think that you have two choices. You need to either ...
>
> 1) Give the guy his money back, or make good in some other way
> (trade some other item), and chalk it up to experience with
> uninsured mail and tell the list what you did.
>
> or
> 2) Not give his money back and explain to everyone on the list
> your reasoning.
>
>
> Right now it is a "he said he said" situation, that isn't going
> to go away, because from an objective point of view (mine!) you
> are both right. If I were Solomon I would cut the Zip drive in
> half. You know that you sent a good drive, he knows that it came
> broken. You know it was the post office, he knows that it was
> "bad packing". You know he didn't choose insurance, he knows it
> was unreasonably packed. You know that you didn't mention a power
> supply, he knows that a power supply is included in the Zip
> package. You can see that you both have valid points of view and
> that the blame can't be assined to either one of you.
>
> I really think that you need to take some steps to resolve this.
> Bryan
>
>
>
>
> Scott wrote:
> >
> > Hi Robert, No I am not a mechanical deivce and Yes! I have been serving
> > this list for almost 2 years now and I have sold hundrerds of  PCMCIA
disks
> > and compact flash disks as well as alot of other items to many HP200LX
> > users all over the world and it seems so silly  to me that out of all
the
> > great products I have sold people that one maybe two items have been
> > damaged in the process of our postal department and  now some people
just
> > want to flame me. Well honestly I  know in my heart that I have helped
> > hundreds of people on our list and they have been very happy with my
> > service and I am sorry that some people have to lash out this way but I
> > know in my  that I have always done my best and will continue to do so
> > because they are still alot of people out there who are really happy
that I
> > am here to help them. Thanks alot for your  input and I hope everyone on
> > our list has a wonderful and Merry Christmas!  Scott
> >
> > "Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
> >
> > > ...I have these items for sale....
> > >
> > > ...and the people I have worked with have been just great! Thanks
alot!
> > >
> > > ...It's nice to meet you...
> > >
> > > Week after week, I'm being brainwashed! It seems like I keep getting
> > > email from a machine. Scott, are you always grinning? Give some
> > > indication that you are something other than a mechanical device wound
> > > up with a spring that keeps ticking away. Throw a flame, break a
hinge,
> > > wire the DC jack to 117VAC, then ask the list how to fix it.
> > >
> > > but...
> > >
> > > ...I have these items for sale....
> > > ...It's nice to meet you...
> > >
> > > --
> > > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > > |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
> > > |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
> > > |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
> > > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > > |   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
> > > +--------------------------------------+
> > >
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> >
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>
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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:51:10 -0500
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              WEB <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
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To Guenther and all the HPLX-List supporters, Merry Christmas and may
your New Year be filled with joy.

William E. Blankenship

"Guenther Helmuth E." wrote:
>=20
>   Merry Christmas & Happy new Year
>        Bonne F=EAte & Bonne ann=E9e
> Sch=F6ne Wiehnachtn & Es guets Neus
> Schene Weihnachtn & Aguats nais Jahr
> Frohe Weihnachten & ein gl=FCckliches Neues Jahr
>=20
>      Kind regards & Herzlicher Gru=DF
>=20
>                Helmuth
>=20
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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:55:18 -0500
Reply-To:     profengr@delanet.com
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From:         "Robert H. Pigford" <profengr@DELANET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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Mr. Moore,
As the seller and shipper of this item, YOU are responsible for it's safe
delivery to the customer!
If the postal service trashed it, then YOU should fix the problem between you
and the shipper.  The CUSTOMER should NOT have to tollerate this behavior.  You
have NOT done your best..

Scott wrote:

> Hi Robert, No I am not a mechanical deivce and Yes! I have been serving
> this list for almost 2 years now and I have sold hundrerds of  PCMCIA disks
> and compact flash disks as well as alot of other items to many HP200LX
> users all over the world and it seems so silly  to me that out of all the
> great products I have sold people that one maybe two items have been
> damaged in the process of our postal department and  now some people just
> want to flame me. Well honestly I  know in my heart that I have helped
> hundreds of people on our list and they have been very happy with my
> service and I am sorry that some people have to lash out this way but I
> know in my  that I have always done my best and will continue to do so
> because they are still alot of people out there who are really happy that I
> am here to help them. Thanks alot for your  input and I hope everyone on
> our list has a wonderful and Merry Christmas!  Scott
>
> "Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
>
> > ...I have these items for sale....
> >
> > ...and the people I have worked with have been just great! Thanks alot!
> >
> > ...It's nice to meet you...
> >
> > Week after week, I'm being brainwashed! It seems like I keep getting
> > email from a machine. Scott, are you always grinning? Give some
> > indication that you are something other than a mechanical device wound
> > up with a spring that keeps ticking away. Throw a flame, break a hinge,
> > wire the DC jack to 117VAC, then ask the list how to fix it.
> >
> > but...
> >
> > ...I have these items for sale....
> > ...It's nice to meet you...
> >
> > --
> > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
> > |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
> > |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
> > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > |   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
> > +--------------------------------------+
> >
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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:43:26 -0800
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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Is it just me or there is really something strange about the way Scott writes?
Not mechanical... but aaaaalmost. Not responsive... but aaalmost. Always more
cards to sell, but there's always *only* X number of cards. The number changes,
but there's always more coming. What do they use them for that they can get rid
of them at this rate instead of re-using them??

Is it just me?

Scott?

Thanks,

Philippe


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott" <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive


> Hi Robert, No I am not a mechanical deivce and Yes! I have been serving
> this list for almost 2 years now and I have sold hundrerds of  PCMCIA disks
> and compact flash disks as well as alot of other items to many HP200LX
> users all over the world and it seems so silly  to me that out of all the
> great products I have sold people that one maybe two items have been
> damaged in the process of our postal department and  now some people just
> want to flame me. Well honestly I  know in my heart that I have helped
> hundreds of people on our list and they have been very happy with my
> service and I am sorry that some people have to lash out this way but I
> know in my  that I have always done my best and will continue to do so
> because they are still alot of people out there who are really happy that I
> am here to help them. Thanks alot for your  input and I hope everyone on
> our list has a wonderful and Merry Christmas!  Scott
>
> "Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
>
> > ...I have these items for sale....
> >
> > ...and the people I have worked with have been just great! Thanks alot!
> >
> > ...It's nice to meet you...
> >
> > Week after week, I'm being brainwashed! It seems like I keep getting
> > email from a machine. Scott, are you always grinning? Give some
> > indication that you are something other than a mechanical device wound
> > up with a spring that keeps ticking away. Throw a flame, break a hinge,
> > wire the DC jack to 117VAC, then ask the list how to fix it.
> >
> > but...
> >
> > ...I have these items for sale....
> > ...It's nice to meet you...
> >
> > --
> > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
> > |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
> > |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
> > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > |   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
> > +--------------------------------------+
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              Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM
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Ed,

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried that for befor and after the week in
question. Still got the "ERROR-Record not found" box.

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 11:00:26 -0800
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I wish you all Happy Holidays (whichever you like to celebrate) and a Happy
New Year. May you have peace in your home and in your heart. May you be
healthy and loved and cared for. May you find in yourself all the energy
for  love and care of others in your life, and dispense it with delight and
enthusiasm.

All the best

   Avi Meshar
   D&A Software

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:37:34 -0600
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I just got a 200LX and a factory coneectivity kit
I cant get it to hook up to my PC
tried resetting both
No Manuals for HP or Con kit but both are stock factory products
My 95 uses the same com1 port with its cable and has no problems

Any tips on trouble shooting  and setting up the conversion and
connection ?

I am also trying to port my phone list to my Palm. Any  tips here?

Teaches em to try and outgrow the 95!

--
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rsoltes@airmail.net

The author of the soon to be best selling
"CHICKEN SOUP FOR THE CHICKEN"

There are two rules in life
1) Never tell everything you know

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 14:58:22 -0500
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              Brian McIlvaine <brian.mcilvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM>
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Subject:      For Auction: HPLX 200 Serial cable and BSE Serial->Parallel
              converter
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See link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1203546783

Thanks!

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 15:04:02 -0500
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              Brian McIlvaine <brian.mcilvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM>
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From:         Brian McIlvaine <brian.mcilvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM>
Subject:      For Sale: Miscellaneous Sotware
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Hey everybody -

This stuff either is going out the door to someone or to the recycling bin:

Complete versions with Manuals and disks:

InfoSelect - DOS Version - runs fine on the HPLX
Paradox Database 3.0 - DOS Version - runs fine on HPLX
Turbo C++ 3.0 with assembler, profiler, and debugger - Doon't think this
runs on an HPLX, but is useful software
DesignCAD 2D DOS version - does not run on HPLX
DesignCAD 3D DOS version - does not run on HPLX

I'll sell these for cost of shipping plus enough to make my trip to the post
office worthwhile - say $20 + actual shipping. Some of these have a lot of
manuals - caveat emptor. I'll let you know what the weight is for the items
if you want an idea.

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:48:56 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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From:         Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
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"Robert H. Pigford" wrote:

> Mr. Moore,
> As the seller and shipper of this item, YOU are responsible for it's safe
> delivery to the customer!

Not in all cases....there are shipping terms that companies use where the
responsibility for damage depends who has title to the item at the time of damage.
There are times when items are shipped and the carrier is responsible for damage
after it leaves the seller and before it arrives at the customer.  Before blaming
either parties I would point out that as a general rule...shipping carriers are
scum.  Many of these carriers are clearly responsible for damage legally but will
go to great lengths to avoid paying on those claims.

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:31:29 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: fluff: photo
Comments: To: nvassoc@ATTGLOBAL.NET
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At 12/21/00 +0000, you wrote:
> > Checked out your pics! Very beautiful flowers and cats and scenery.
>What
> > are you using to create the image map? I like that format to catalog
>pics
> > thumnails...
>
>thanks for the kind words.

You are welcome. I love flower pictures, and you have impressive set there
- gorgeous stuff. And I love the "assistants" :)

>  I am using an orphan graphics program
>called Embellish. It is available for Windows 95 and OS/2 and has been
>released as an orphan. It is a decent image editing program and
>provides image mapping for web pages. It also provided the catalog of
>thumbnail images.

www.dadaware.com is not known to my browsers, and I have only been able to
find glowing reports for the software, but all links were to dadaware :-( ...

When, and how was it released to public?

>I am not sure where you can find the software - maybe leo or some
>other file repository?

I'll have to search more for these... If anyone has a lead on this, don't
hesitate... TIA!

Again, thanks for the good work, very pleasing...

Happy Holidays!

    Avi

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:42:00 EST
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Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Dennis Vest <Class3Dep@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
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Scott,
You may recognise my name as having bought from you in the past. I have a
couple of comments to make here. First, "Methinks thou doth protest too much."

> Well honestly I  know in my heart that I have helped
>  hundreds of people on our list and they have been very happy with my
>  service and I am sorry that some people have to lash out this way
Let's start here. You are in business to make money. There is nothing wrong
with this fact. I have seen noone lash out at you. Some have questioned your
ethics and nearly all have suggested you take some responsibility for poor
shipping and packaging practices. After I bought my card from you and you
shipped it unprotected in a paper envelope, several suggested you package
better. It is apparent our suggestions were not taken to heart.

> but I
>  know in my  that I have always done my best and will continue to do so
>  because they are still alot of people out there who are really happy that I
>  am here to help them.

Here again I suggest that you are not as altruistic as you would have us
believe. You are not giving this stuff away liked Santa. You are selling it
to us. I am certain you are making some profit on these deals.
I will, in all likelihood, not purchase again from you. I will not encourage
others to do so. You packaged my first purchase, aPCMCIA card, improperly and
for my send purchase misrepresented your vinyl PCMCIA cases as being made of
leather. If this is your best, I want to state that it is not up to my own
standards for best. It does not even qualify as good.

>Thanks alot for your  input
If indeed you are thankful for our input, and accept it in the spirit it is
given, you will make right the deal on the Zip Drive.

I go on the record as stating that you should no longer be allowed to post to
the list until the deal is fixed to the satisfaction of Mark (and perhaps,
others on the list)

I apologize for the tirade. I cannot sit idle and watch an injustice be
perpetrated unopposed. Must be the cop in me. =8-)

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:08:04 -0800
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From:         David M Peterson <dmp24@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
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Enough already!

I have been in the computer service business 20 years. One thing that I
learned a long time ago was...

Make it right.

My guarantee has always been if it is anything at all related to what I
did, I'll take care of it. The only time that I gave a time limit was if
pressured by the customer. Then I would state 30 days. (They would have
had a longer warrenty otherwise).

Shipping was charged for. Use that money to send the product priority
mail in a box. Need packing materials? Stuff in newspapers.

Problem with a transaction? Make it right. Replace or refund. Send
chocolate to repair the emotions after the transaction is fixed.

Problems happen when selling used equipment. Just take care of it.

Scott, You are digging yourself into a pit. This should have been taken
care of long ago!

PS  Are your products bought or is it 'scrap' from work?

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:45:55 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Patrick west <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
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Scott,
I've noticed that many sellers on Ebay have a disclaimer
Example "Please add $3.20 for priority mail shipping in
US.Insuance extra."
another "All items shipping costs are WITHOUT insuance
unless otherwise stated."
and again "WINNING BID PAYS SHIPPING VIA USPS WITH
INSUANCE."

The point is tell the buyer that if they want insurence, pay
for it or accept risk"
Than over pack it to be on the safe side.
>
> They are upset over the
> lack of resolution of the problem, and your postings don't
> address this at all.

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:48:02 -0800
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              Patrick west <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
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Here is a really good one:

Buyer Prepays $2.00 shipping ,in a (PADDED ENVELOPE) IF YOU
WANT
INSURANCE IT IS .85 MORE!!!!!!IF YOU DON'T BUY INSUANCE I AM
NOT RESPOSIBLE FOR LOSS OR DAMAGES Orders out side USA May
be more. NO FORIEGN CHECKS!!!!!!

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:40:50 -0800
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              Alfred Lee <pc@MDS.COM>
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From:         Alfred Lee <pc@MDS.COM>
Subject:      Re: fluff: photo
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Hi,

Came v0.9 for Win95/98/NT (http://www.butaman.ne.jp/~tsuruzoh/index-e.html)
that I
use to download image from Olympus digital camera has the ability to create
HTML
pages with thumb nail index images.  This function may be used without the
camera.
You might check it out.

Merry Christmas,
Alfred


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan R Leipper <nvassoc@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Thursday, December 21, 2000 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: fluff: photo


> Checked out your pics! Very beautiful flowers and cats and scenery.
What
> are you using to create the image map? I like that format to catalog
pics
> thumnails...

thanks for the kind words. I am using an orphan graphics program
called Embellish. It is available for Windows 95 and OS/2 and has been
released as an orphan. It is a decent image editing program and
provides image mapping for web pages. It also provided the catalog of
thumbnail images.

I am not sure where you can find the software - maybe leo or some
other file repository?

Good luck.

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k1cd/7

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:02:30 -0800
Reply-To:     hobchi@juno.com
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From:         hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
Comments: To: Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Well skotty boy
If its only a koupla items (as yu say),
outta HUNDREDS over two yeers, it wood
not bee a big deel to doo wats right
by da victim(s), wood it and yu wooda
saved yorself all da greef of da last
koupla weaks. Yu trying to justify da
situation by da HUNDREDs ya sold but its
da exceptional few dat screws ya up.

In any kase, da onus wuz on youse to have
prevented da situation, regardless of da
problem. If it wuz his fault, yu shooda
just given him a replacement or his moneey back.

yor just making da situation worse by stonewallin him.

yu pal al...........

> Hi Robert, No I am not a mechanical deivce and Yes! I
> have been serving this list for almost 2 years now and I
have sold
> hundrerds of  PCMCIA disks
> and compact flash disks as well as alot of other items to
> many HP200LX
> users all over the world and it seems so silly  to me
> that out of all the
> great products I have sold people that one maybe two
> items have been
> damaged in the process of our postal department and  now
> some people just
> want to flame me. Well honestly I  know in my heart that
> I have helped
> hundreds of people on our list and they have been very
> happy with my
> service and I am sorry that some people have to lash out
> this way but I
> know in my  that I have always done my best and will
> continue to do so
> because they are still alot of people out there who are
> really happy that I
> am here to help them. Thanks alot for your  input and I
> hope everyone on
> our list has a wonderful and Merry Christmas!  Scott
>
> "Robert K. Meyer" wrote:
>
> > ...I have these items for sale....
> >
> > ...and the people I have worked with have been just
> great! Thanks alot!
> >
> > ...It's nice to meet you...
> >
> > Week after week, I'm being brainwashed! It seems like I
> keep getting
> > email from a machine. Scott, are you always grinning?
> Give some
> > indication that you are something other than a
> mechanical device wound
> > up with a spring that keeps ticking away. Throw a
> flame, break a hinge,
> > wire the DC jack to 117VAC, then ask the list how to
> fix it.
> >
> > but...
> >
> > ...I have these items for sale....
> > ...It's nice to meet you...
> >
> > --
> > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
> > |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
> > |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
> > +--------------------+-----------------+
> > |   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
> > +--------------------------------------+
> >
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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 20:12:43 -0700
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              "John A. Evans - N0HJ" <jaevans@CODENET.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Scott Moore/Zip Drive
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Every customer counts !!!!!!

john - n0hj

Scott wrote:

> ... seems so silly  to me that out of all the
> great products I have sold people that one maybe two items have been
> damaged in the process of our postal department and  now some people just
> want to flame me. Well honestly I  know in my heart that I have helped
> hundreds of people

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:28:30 -0800
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From:         hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      BAN Scott Moore
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BAN Skott More?   Naw, don gotta.
After dis, I don't think he will get
much business to make it worth his while.
He done dug his own grave.

> Here is a really good one:
> Buyer Prepays $2.00 shipping ,in a
(PADDED ENVELOPE) IF YOU WANT
> INSURANCE IT IS .85 MORE!!!!!!
IF YOU DON'T BUY INSUANCE I AM
> NOT RESPOSIBLE FOR LOSS OR DAMAGES Orders out
side USA May be more. NO FORIEGN CHECKS!!!!!!
>
yu pal al..........



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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 03:48:44 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> > Checked out your pics! Very beautiful flowers and cats and scenery.
> What

Thanks for the pictures near the Sierra.  I was hoping to get down there
this past summer but a broken foot in April threw a numbers of plans for
a loop!!!

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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 21:14:26 -0700
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              "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I'm switching over to the ST7868 myself come Jan 2. One week ago, I
could have cared less. Now I'll be in the thick of it with WWW/LX. If I
can only get the time...

I'd like to quitetly sit in this discussion if that would be OK.

Thanks.

Bob

Marc - wrote:
>
> Would the lister that posted the information a few weeks ago about
> setting up his StarTac ST7868 phone to work with the HP 200lx please
> contact me offlist?  I recently purchased this phone and would like to
> get it interfaced with my palmtop.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marcus
>
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Date:         Fri, 22 Dec 2000 23:11:38 -0800
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Fascinating product. The Webpage is great too, lots of info. I believe I
run Win32s and it precludes using this software, unfortunately. Thank you
anyway, I kept the URL for reference later...

Happy Holidays!

    Avi

At 12/22/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Came v0.9 for Win95/98/NT (http://www.butaman.ne.jp/~tsuruzoh/index-e.html)

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:10:09 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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With Stefan Peichls RING.COM I found out that my 8210 interfere with my
hp200lx when I use www/lx with irda.
But if I cover the phone display with the palm of my hand and the oposite =
side
(the antenna) with my fingers I get no interference at all. The irda =
connection
works quite well without loosing any characters.

Just a tip You could try if You have problems with the connection.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 02:44:35 -0800
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> > ... seems so silly  to me that out of all the
> > great products I have sold people that one maybe two
> items have been damaged in the process of our postal
department and now some people just want to flame me.

Den it wood be no sweat to reimburse ONE or TWO peeple.
frum all da profits yu made offa da HUNDREDS of us.
kause it ain't sill to da ONE of TWO.

Well honestly I  know in my heart that I have helped
hundreds of people...   butt wee don know dat.
>
yor pal al...........



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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 06:21:25 -0500
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Avi wrote:


>May you find in yourself all the energy > for  love and care of others =
in your life, and dispense it with delight and
> enthusiasm.
>

OK,thanks,but if this fine words only are valid for humans,and
not other species of Mother Earth,aren't they then only a false
anthropocentric moraltheatre?


Lars-vegetarian

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 06:21:38 -0500
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              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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From:         Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Guenther wrote:

>   Merry Christmas & Happy new Year
>        Bonne F=EAte & Bonne ann=E9e
> Sch=F6ne Wiehnachtn & Es guets Neus
> Schene Weihnachtn & Aguats nais Jahr
> Frohe Weihnachten & ein gl=FCckliches Neues Jahr
>
>      Kind regards & Herzlicher Gru=DF
>
>                Helmuth


But I am pagan,and clebrate only the wintersolstice just like
my ancestors did,that is the Vikings.

So I have no belief in the christianity,and do not parttake in
their celebrations _at all_


Lars-pagan

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 06:48:29 -0600
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              TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Hello! Please check out my auctions if you're interested in a 2gb Jaz drive
or a Sharp Zaurus ZR-5700. You can buy from me with confidence. Please see
my eBay feedback, 23 positive responses with no negatives at all. Links
below:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1203520067

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1203516829

Merry Christmas! Happy Hanukah! Blessed Kwanza!

oh...
Great Solstice (for you Lars d;-)

Peace, Love, Health, Happiness, Friendship and Prosperity to you All

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 16:00:23 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> But I am pagan,and clebrate only the wintersolstice just like
> my ancestors did,that is the Vikings.
>
> So I have no belief in the christianity,and do not parttake in
> their celebrations _at all_

And your point is?

>
> Lars-pagan
>

Laust-confused

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:09:13 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Timetracker/LX

John Musielewicz writes:
> I have started using timetracker to keep track of my time. It is pretty
> good. I have two questions. 1) Is there anyway to resume the time on a
> record without loosing the orginal start time? The only way I can see
> to do it now is to log the start time in the memo

This has seemed odd to me also.  I work on many projects each day and
will frequently drop one project while taking a call on another project,
and then return to work on the first project.  In my mind, "resume" ought
to start an *additional* entry with the same information (including the
memo).  What I do now is use F2 (add) to start the second entry, and
then retype the memo.  Often I just type "continue" and rely on the
previous entry for the description.

I'm not sure what the purpose of the Resume function is as written.  I
suppose if you made an entry and then got called away before actually
doing any work, you could use it to adjust the starting time when you
*did* start working on it.  To me this would be called "restart" rather
than resume, though.


> 2) What kind of
> spreadsheet report does it make? Can the report be directly opened by
> the built-in Lotus? Thanks

The included spreadsheet report gives you a text file that can be brought
directly into 1-2-3 using File-Import-Numbers.  It works nicely.

Ted

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:20:36 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Motorola StarTac and the 200lx

Marc - writes:
> Would the lister that posted the information a few weeks ago about
> setting up his StarTac ST7868 phone to work with the HP 200lx please
> contact me offlist?  I recently purchased this phone and would like to
> get it interfaced with my palmtop.

I would suggest discussing this on list--it is definitely on topic, and
there are other interested parties.

I'm not sure which poster you're calling to, there have been at least
three who posted about StarTac 7868W-200LX connectivity.  Stan was the
first, and was pretty clear nothing special was needed--it worked out
of the box.

My experience was confounded by a faulty Motorola data cable.  Once I
got that straightened out, the process was as simple as this:

 *edit my LXTCP dialing script from com2 --> com1
 *enable com1 in Setup {Control-Filer,F6}
 *connect HP serial cable to black gender changer to Motorola data cable
 *connect cable assembly to 200LX and StarTac
 *fire up LXTCP

It works with amazingly little setup or fiddling around.  Speeds seem
to be in the 9600 range for me--I often use a 14.4 PCMCIA modem, and
the wireless connection is noticeably slower.  Still, it is sweet to
be able to grab e-mail or go online when my teenagers have the phone
tied up, or I'm in a place without phone data ports.

Hope that helps.  Feel free to post specific questions.

Ted

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:54:12 -0500
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              "thomas e. nemeth" <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hi All,

Seeing as how I got a C in Math for Morons in college, I'm pretty proud o=
f
my equation.  Who uses WWW/Lx and Sprint PCS service and with what phone?=
 =

Ideally I'd like to get something that has IR plus and internal modem to
work or maybe just a cable between the phone and the HP.  =


Parenthetically, I have found it pretty much useless to ask anyone at the=

big electronics stores about the phones, they know very little and
information on the displays is limited which makes it hard all around.

Anyone with experience?  I'd love to hear about it.

Happy Hanukah/Merry Christmas/Ramadan Karim/Happy Kwanza/Happy New Year
Peace, Light and Fulfillment in the New Year

Tom

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:19:48 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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Here we go again!   :-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
> Laust Brock-Nannestad
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 10:00 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
>
>
> On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Lars Hedstroem wrote:
>
> > But I am pagan,and clebrate only the wintersolstice just like
> > my ancestors did,that is the Vikings.
> >
> > So I have no belief in the christianity,and do not parttake in
> > their celebrations _at all_
>
> And your point is?
>
> >
> > Lars-pagan
> >
>
> Laust-confused
>
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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:52:34 -0800
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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(4) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.

They are in excellent Condition!
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $55.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


I also have  (2) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for
shipping and packaging.

Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you

can send payment to my address at:
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.

If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

If you want  Insurance on your package it is .85 more! If you do not buy
insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal
errors. Orders outside the USA may be more.  No Foriegn Checks please!

The response over the last few months has been just great!  and the
people I have worked with have been just Awesome!   Thanks alot!

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:01:04 -0600
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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Scott, I don't think you quite get it.  You're not being flamed
because the post office screwed up.  I'm not sure flamed describes
this anyway.  I think everyone, including me, is upset that we've
let you use our listserve for business puproses, which is to say
we've made an exception for you.  We've done that because you've
been offering us something that's useful to people on this listserve
and you've seemed to offer good deals and to deal honestly with
people.

But now we find out that one of your practices is less than
acceptable and we're saying so.  The ones speaking up are saying so.
I think so far most people haven't commented.  I'm really just
speaking for myself and trying to interpret what I think a few
others are saying.

I do a lot of buying over the internet.  I'm very careful who I buy
from.  I haven't been happy with every deal I've made on the
internet but so far I don't think I've been burned.  I expect it to
happen eventually and I'm kind of paranoid about it.

The first time I became aware of you was when you sold someone a
card that arrived bent and not usable and you didn't feel
responsible for it.  For that reason I was a little nervous about
you.  But since then I've seen a lot of posts here thanking you for
a good deal and I got less nervous.  But now the same thing has
happened again, and more than once, it seems.

I think that if I were to buy something from you, it's my
responsibility to see that the money gets to you.  If it gets lost
in the mail, that's my problem, not yours.  I owe you the agreed
price and I continue to owe it to you untill you have it in your
hand.

It really has to be this way or I could claim that I sent it and I'm
not responsible because the post office lost it.  If business worked
that way I could get anything I wanted, free.  I'd be the best
equipped gadget lover in town.

By the same token if you sell me something it's your responsibility
to get it to me in the condition you say it's in.  If you offer a
bent card for sale and I buy it, I have no complaint.  If you offer
a working card for sale and it's damaged when I get it, you haven't
fulfilled your part of the deal yet.  When and how it got bent isn't
an issue.

Again, it has to be that way because it's impossible for me to know
the condition when you sent it.  You're obligated to get to me what
I'm obligated to get you the money for.  And both should be as good
as promised.

If I fail to get the money we've agreed on into your hands, I've
cheated you.  If you fail to get the device in the condition we've
agreed on into my hands, you've cheated me.

There's no universal law that says this is the way business must be
transacted on the internet.  But it's pretty much the way everyone
does it.  The complaints you're hearing are because you don't seem
to hold to this same ethic and you don't seem to think we should
expect you to.

The message that you're getting is that we expect you to.  Your
customers are telling you, pretty politely, I think, that they don't
accept what seems to be your idea:  that once it leaves your hands
it's not your responsibility.  You have to decide whether to listen
to your customers and consider what they say, or to say they're
flaming you.

But, I think, even more important than that is a statement of
principle from you so we'll know what to expect from you in the
future.  I've asked you for that in an earlier post and a couple of
others have, too.

What do you believe?  Do you believe that when the item leaves your
hands it's no longer your responsibility?  Or do you believe you're
obligated to get the item in the stated condition into your
customer's hands.  I think we have a right to know that from you,
stated clearly and unambiguously.

In my opinion, and I'm only speaking for myself, I think you should
either tell us what we should expect from  you or you should stop
offering things for sale on this list.

If what you believe is that youre only responsible till it leaves
your hands, fine.  That's a reasonable approach as long as you tell
us that up front.  Then we know what to expect and we make our
buying decisions accordingly.

If you believe you are responsble to get the promised item in the
promised condition into your customer's hands, then tell us that.
And do it.  And expect people to feel cheated if you don't.

If you won't state clearly what you think your obligations are, I'd
like to see the members of this list and the list owner begin to
consider no longer making an exception allowing you to do regular
sales on this list.

Barry

> Hi Robert, No I am not a mechanical deivce
> and Yes! I have been serving this list for
> almost 2 years now and I have sold hundrerds
> of  PCMCIA disks and compact flash disks
> as well as alot of other items to many HP200LX
> users all over the world and it seems so silly  to
> me that out of all the great products I have
> sold people that one maybe two items have
> been damaged in the process of our postal
> department and  now some people just want
> to flame me. Well honestly I  know in my heart
> that I have helped hundreds of people on our
> list and they have been very happy with my
>service and I am sorry that some people have
> to lash out this way but I know in my  that I have
> always done my best and will continue to do so
> because they are still alot of people out there
> who are really happy that I am here to help them.
> Thanks alot for your  input and I hope everyone on
> our list has a wonderful and Merry Christmas!  Scott

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:35:32 -0800
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX & Nokia 8210
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Good tip. I wonder if this would also work for the Siemens models which
also suffer the same problem...

Happy Holidays to all!

Avi

At 12/23/00 +0100, you wrote:
>With Stefan Peichls RING.COM I found out that my 8210 interfere with my
>hp200lx when I use www/lx with irda.
>But if I cover the phone display with the palm of my hand and the oposite side
>(the antenna) with my fingers I get no interference at all. The irda
>connection
>works quite well without loosing any characters.
>
>Just a tip You could try if You have problems with the connection.
>
>       /tomas moberg
>                        Uppsala
>
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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:18:35 -0600
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> Always more cards to sell, but there's
> always *only* X number of cards. The number
> changes, but there's always more coming.
> What do they use them for that they can get rid
>of them at this rate instead of re-using them??
>
> Is it just me?

It's not just you.  I've wondered about this, too.  But there hasn't
been any indication that these cards and other parts weren't
honestly obtained and as long as there isn't, I think we have to
assume that they were.

I do know there are people who make a living buying and selling
things in newsgroups, auctions, etc.

In fact I looked into that a little this past week.  My 85 year old
retired father wants something to occupy his time and we spent a
number of hours surfing to find things he might buy and sell on the
net and places he might buy and sell them.

There used to be a guy on comp.sys.hp48 who always had 1 meg Grid
cards for sale at a very low price.  About 1/10th the price of a new
HP card.  These were used, of course.  They worked in the 48 but
there was some risk in using them.

I bought 2 of them and when I got the second one I drove 100 miles
to his city to pick it up.  More for the weekend drive than because
I was in a hurry.  Over lunch he gave me the details about where he
got the steady supply of cards.   I don't remember the details now.
It was some company that had umpteen cases of them in stock and the
devices they were made for were well out of date, so they sold them
to him by the case for very little.  He was using it to help pay his
way through school.

So it can happen.

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:33:45 -0500
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From:         James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Ricochet 128K GS Modem
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Avi,
   I guess you and I may be the only ones on this list with a Metricom
Ricochet modem, but just in case it has wider appeal, I thought I would add
this.
        My Ricochet rep has just informed me that they now have a PCMCIA card
modem!  I don't know anything about the specs, and I'm sure if anyone asks
they will be told it doesn't support DOS, but they say the same thing ab out
their existing modems.  If by any chance this modem would work IN the 200LX,
it would be far more appealing to me. I use my current Ricochet modem only
with my laptop since I don't want to be bothered holding the Palmtop and the
Ricochet both at the same time.

Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn
> Behalf Of A
> Meshar
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 7:23 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Ricochet 128K GS Modem
>
>
> Folks, this is a new service from Metricom.  They extended
> the network to
> support 128kbps service in various places. They are still officially
> building the network in LA, but I have been using their fast
> modem for two
> days now. It is fast. Clearly faster than the 56Kbps modems
> (and I just
> tested for Hal in the last two days a sweet pocket modem!!! He has my
> evaluation to do with as he sees fit!).  I get probably
> 50,000 baud on the
> palmtop - but I really have not measured it!
>
> All I did was connect the serial cable to the palmtop
> interface and plugged
> it in the COM1. Then ran WWWSETUP.EXE, added a new ISP Setup
> (I get my GS
> service through Wireless Webconnect), designated external modem, 57600
> speed (and 115200 baud), the ATZ is fine, dialin is 3333, and
> put in the
> proper DNS and alt DNS as well as my id and password. Used the same
> Rico_Script that comes built-in with WWW/LX. And away we went!!
>
> It was slightly more reliable at slower speed, but worked
> just as well at
> 115200. They use PAP (a variant of CHAP which is handles just
> as well by
> the CHAP script - the basis of the Rico_Script.
>
> This looks good!
>
> FYI - anyone interested in this portable radio modem.
>
> It is not cheap, BTW, but on the desktop you get nearly 128K
> baud - and
> that is nothing to sneeze at in a radio communication.
>
> Info at Metricom/Ricochet:  http://www.ricochet.com, and
> their Authorised
> service providers (where you buy modem and get the account)  Wireless
> WebConnect http://www.wwc.com and Juno Express at
> http://www.junmoexpress.com/ricochet
>
> Enjoy.
>
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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:55:04 -0500
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              John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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> This has seemed odd to me also.  I work on many projects each day and
> will frequently drop one project while taking a call on another project,
> and then return to work on the first project.  In my mind, "resume" ought
> to start an *additional* entry with the same information (including the
> memo).  What I do now is use F2 (add) to start the second entry, and
> then retype the memo.  Often I just type "continue" and rely on the
> previous entry for the description.

Thanks for the tip. How do you type continue? When I hit c it asks
about filters. Actually starting a second entry is a really good idea
because the first entry will have the start time and the second entry
can keep track of how long the project takes. I may just make that a
habit:-).

>
> I'm not sure what the purpose of the Resume function is as written.  I
> suppose if you made an entry and then got called away before actually
> doing any work, you could use it to adjust the starting time when you
> *did* start working on it.  To me this would be called "restart" rather
> than resume, though.

Wouldn't del do the same thing if you wanted to restart at a new time?

>
> The included spreadsheet report gives you a text file that can be brought
> directly into 1-2-3 using File-Import-Numbers.  It works nicely.

Does Timetraker export into csv format in case I wanted to import into
a database?

>
> Ted

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 05:29:36 +1100
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Processors and PCMCIA Disks are Available.
Comments: To: Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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Hi Scott

Firstly I congratulate you on trying to address the feedback you are
getting from the list by adding the insurance clause below.

As a prospective customer of yours in Australia I am not prepared to order
from you under your present conditions.

I also require that you offer the following.

1) A money back guarantee if the item is not as described or is returned
within x time in same condition.

2) "Custom" packaging (at extra cost if needed)  ie 4 layers of bubble wrap
in a box with pellet fillers.

3) Invitation for feedback public and private so any difficulties that
arise can be prevented in the future.

4) Electronic payment options such as Paypal, Credit Card or e-gold. (these
can all be put in place at no cost to you). (I am not prepared to send a
check)

As a mail order merchant in Australia with over 50,000 customers I learned
that the customer is ALWAYS right. Look at all the successful department
stores policies.  They are successful for many reasons. One of those is a
no questions refund policy in all cases I believe.  Scott if you care about
a continued business here I urge you to replace Marks Zip drive with a
working one..even if brand new from a Circuit city type store at a loss for
you ASAP.  Short term pain= long term gain.

FWIW my 0.02

Cheers and happy holidays

Russell


>If you want  Insurance on your package it is .85 more! If you do not buy
>insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal
>errors. Orders outside the USA may be more.  No Foriegn Checks please!

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:34:46 -0500
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              John Musielewicz <a123456@BITSTREAM.NET>
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>
> It works with amazingly little setup or fiddling around.  Speeds seem
> to be in the 9600 range for me--I often use a 14.4 PCMCIA modem, and
> the wireless connection is noticeably slower.  Still, it is sweet to
> be able to grab e-mail or go online when my teenagers have the phone
> tied up, or I'm in a place without phone data ports.
>
> Hope that helps.  Feel free to post specific questions.
>

Now if someone would shorten and fit the StarTAC data cable with the
custom HP connector:-), hint, hint. It kind of ackward carrying two
cables and null modem.

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:59:28 -0700
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              "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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Scott,

I'm encouraging you to address the issues at hand in an analog mode
(sincerely), not digitally (high/low, on/off, 0/1). Answer list
questions so folks know what is going on. Hiding for six days (your
letter Dec 16), then making an appearance (response to me Dec 22) makes
one wonder. We just want some assurance that when we deal with you, we
can look you straight in the eye and detect a man that is honest (I did
not say perfect!) in his business. Give us some input. We don't need all
the details, but with 25 posts on this thread, it does not appear to be
FLUFF, and it deserves some attention from the source.

Bob

Scott wrote:
>
> Hi Robert, No I am not a mechanical deivce and Yes! I have been serving
> this list for almost 2 years now and I have sold hundrerds of  PCMCIA disks
> and compact flash disks as well as alot of other items to many HP200LX
> users all over the world and it seems so silly  to me that out of all the
> great products I have sold people that one maybe two items have been
> damaged in the process of our postal department and  now some people just
> want to flame me. Well honestly I  know in my heart that I have helped
> hundreds of people on our list and they have been very happy with my
> service and I am sorry that some people have to lash out this way but I
> know in my  that I have always done my best and will continue to do so
> because they are still alot of people out there who are really happy that I
> am here to help them. Thanks alot for your  input and I hope everyone on
> our list has a wonderful and Merry Christmas!  Scott
>

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+--------------------+-----------------+
|Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:18:36 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Processors and PCMCIA Disks are Available.
Comments: To: Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>Hi Scott
>
>Firstly I congratulate you on trying to address the feedback you are
>getting from the list by adding the insurance clause below.
>
>As a prospective customer of yours in Australia I am not prepared to order
>from you under your present conditions.
>
>I also require that you offer the following.
>
>1) A money back guarantee if the item is not as described or is returned
>within x time in same condition.
>
>2) "Custom" packaging (at extra cost if needed)  ie 4 layers of bubble wrap
>in a box with pellet fillers.
>
>3) Invitation for feedback public and private so any difficulties that
>arise can be prevented in the future.
>
>4) Electronic payment options such as Paypal, Credit Card or e-gold. (these
>can all be put in place at no cost to you). (I am not prepared to send a
>check)
>
>As a mail order merchant in Australia with over 50,000 customers I learned
>that the customer is ALWAYS right. Look at all the successful department
>stores policies.  They are successful for many reasons. One of those is a
>no questions refund policy in all cases I believe.  Scott if you care about
>a continued business here I urge you to replace Marks Zip drive with a
>working one..even if brand new from a Circuit city type store at a loss for
>you ASAP.  Short term pain= long term gain.
>
>FWIW my 0.02
>
>Cheers and happy holidays
>
>Russell
>
>
> >If you want  Insurance on your package it is .85 more! If you do not buy
> >insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal
> >errors. Orders outside the USA may be more.  No Foriegn Checks please!
>
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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:33:40 -0800
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              Gary Jacek <gary-jacek@HOME.COM>
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I have a Windows98 PC with two 10BaseT NICs and
Internet Sharing enabled.  This PC is connected to
a Shaw@Home cable modem.  The 200LX+EN2216-1 Ethernet
card is connected to the Windows98 PC via a 10BaseT
crossover cable to the second NIC.

With this configuration, I have successfully downloaded
mail and news using LXMTA, so I know the hardware is
functioning.

When I run the following command

www.exe -d -q -@1 Ethernet

I get the Welcome to HV screen.

When I attempt to follow the link to the D&A Software
home page, I get the message

Opening Ethernet Connection

followed by

ARP request for 24.64.200.209 failed.

and a panel
"Could not send request / Could not establish Ethernet connection".

The static address of the Windows98 PC is 24.64.200.209.

Any advice on what I have missed here?
Is there a workaround for this problem?

(www.cfg follows)

; Configuration file for WWW
; A. Garzotto, February 1998

; *** NOTE THAT LINES STARTING WITH ; ARE COMMENTS! ***

Global
Command=c:\WWWlx\HV.EXE
Cache=C:\wwwlx\cache\WWW.CAC
Hosts=C:\wwwlx\_dat\HOSTS
Setup=EtherNet
; uncomment to create a log file
Log=c:\wwwlx\_dat\WWW.LOG
UserName=Gary Jacek

Setup
EtherNet=ISP using Accton Ethernet Card

Script
CHAP_Script=PPP dial up using CHAP or PAP

EtherNet
HTTP_Proxy=http://proxy:8080
Ether=1
Port=2
OmniGo=0
PPP=1
Modem=1
FIFO=1
Baud=57600
ModemInit=AT&F
My_IP=
Peer_IP=24.64.200.209
DNS_IP=
DNS2_IP=
Script=CHAP_Script
Login=gary-jacek
Dial=ATDT
Password=xxxxxxxx

CHAP_Script
e=Initializing modem
m=
s=\r
w=5 OK
d=
s=\r
w=75 CONNECT

; data added by WWWSETUP ----------------------------

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:31:59 -0700
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              John Ogren <John.A.Ogren.80303@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX + Sprint= ? phone
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> Who uses WWW/Lx and Sprint PCS service and with what phone?

Tom,

I hope this makes it onto the list. I've been lurking for some
time here, but haven't tried posting until now.

The solution to your equation is "QCP-2760".

I use my Qualcomm QCP-2760 phone with SprintPCS and WWW/LX,
and it works great! I did a lot of research to find a solution
that meets my needs, because I want to be able to connect to
the web while in digital or analog mode. Like you, I find the
sales people in the stores, as well as tech support people on
the phone, to be pathologically incapable about answering
questions that don't involve MS Windows.

The solution I found uses the Qualcomm "Data on the Go" card.
This is a PCMCIA card that allows landline connections at
33.6K baud, analog cellular connections at 9.6K baud, and
digital (CDMA) cellular connections at 14.4K baud. The card
detects if the phone is in a digital or analog coverage area
and adjusts accordingly.

The card draws 150 mA, and works fine in my 200LX. I got mine
on eBay for about $40, but I haven't seen one with the cable
for the QCP-2760 (or QCP-860, which uses the same cable) go
for that price in a long time.

When you are in a digital coverage area, you can also use the
serial port with the cable from the Sprint/Qualcomm "Data
Connectivity Kit". This approach draws less from the
batteries, but only works with a digital connection. You will
need a null modem and the HP serial cable to make this work.

Like others who like to travel light, I objected to the need
to carry two cables and a null modem around. I am fortunate to
work with a very capable electronics technician, and he solved
my problem. He used a moto-tool to split open the DB-9
connector, and discovered a tiny circuit board inside the
shell. He then removed the circuit card, discarded the DB-9
shell, and soldered on a short cable with a 10-pin connector
that plugs directly into the serial port on the HP200LX. This
is not an operation for the faint of heart or
technically-challenged, but it can be done.

Good luck!
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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 16:11:13 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Scott wrote:

> I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.

bhah.blah,blah

Scott,

I don't think you get it....you have people on this list are angry with
you.  I would strongly suggest you make this right before your fellow list
members blackball you.  You are going along conducting business as usual
while fellow list members are ready to lynch you at dawn.

I trust that I will see on this list in the next day or so that this has
been settled to the satisfaction of all concerned.

I would also point out that for xmas I purchased 200lx stuff for my brother
in law and purchased it elsewhere as a result of this problem which has not
been resolved yet.

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:00:37 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" <fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Motorola StarTac and the 200lx
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> Now if someone would shorten and fit the StarTAC data cable with the
> custom HP connector:-), hint, hint. It kind of ackward carrying two
> cables and null modem.

That would be nice.

And after the other message re: sprint and cell phones and the circuit
board in the db9 connector I looked over the motorola connector and
noticed for the first time that at the motorola end of the cable, its
plug actually has another plug/socket on its side????

I GUESS that the power cable could be plugged into that?????

And do us Motorola-folks have a circuit board inside our db9 connector?
(G))

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:17:14 -0800
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              Patrick west <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
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I asked Scott about this when I purchased a card from him
some time ago. If I recall correctly the company he works
for only allows the cards to be used for a certain number of
hours before they are pulled.  A QA thing. Anyways the
company than sells them.


IIRC Scott gets tham in an auction at his work.
Barry wrote:
>
> > Always more cards to sell, but there's
> > always *only* X number of cards. The number
> > changes, but there's always more coming.
> > What do they use them for that they can get rid
> >of them at this rate instead of re-using them??

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 02:59:40 +0100
Reply-To:     "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@iname.com>
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From:         "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@INAME.COM>
Subject:      Scott

Hi

Thomas E. Nemeth wrote (>):

> Would I be wrong in suggesting that Scott be
> prohibited from posting until he makes this good?

I am and have been a member of several e-mail based discussion groups for
several years. I was most surprised when I joined this lists to see the posts
from Scott, and even more surprised when no-one complained. None of the other
five lists I presently subscribe to allow commercial FS messages, and
certainly not from people who don't contribute anything useful to the
list!

To Scott, I'll simply say. One of the first rules of running a business is
that the customer is always right. This means to me that unless you know for
sure that the customer is trying to swindle you, you repair or replace the
merchandise or give him his money back whether you like it or not!

Owen
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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 02:59:53 +0100
Reply-To:     "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@iname.com>
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From:         "Owen H. Morgan" <ohmorgan@INAME.COM>
Subject:      The future of DOS palmtops.

Hi

Michael Berrier wrote (>):

> other companies like Siemens (?? 35) , Psion
> and others are still counting on the DOS? version
> of their equipment, there is a market for such
> types of organizers/Pocket PC.

Come again? Psion have not built a DOS computer for a million years, and those
were notebooks, not palmtops. They released the new EPOC operating system
somewhere around 3 1/2 years ago to replace the old SIBO OS used on the series
3, 3a, 3c, 3mx and Siena machines.

EPOC is a totally modern multitasking OS purpose designed from the bottom up
for handheld devices. I have been a "power user" of EPOC palmtop computers for
three years. EPOC is the most stable OS I've ever worked with on any computer.
It is quite normal for an EPOC computer to be booted only once when the
machine is new, and then the OS just keeps going. I have no problems having 20
- 30 applications open at the same time, and they can be different
applications or several instances of the same application working on different
files. There are thousands of different applications available for EPOC for
just about any task. BTW, for those who think they can't live without DOS,
there is an XT-emulator for EPOC.

> It is not all about WIN CE equipment.

No, it certainly isn't! However, I don't think there is much of a market for a
DOS palmtop in the future. I think part of the reason there are still so many
HPLX users on this list is that not that they have not been able to find
anything better, but a case of if it ain't broken, don't fix it!

Personally, I have invested not only money in paying for my EPOC computers and
software, but a lot of time in developing my knowledge of the OS and the
applications to a level where my Ericsson MC218 is a useful tool rather than a
learning experience. Just like I would not like to go through the same process
again every time someone brings out a new OS or some exiting new hardware, I
can very well understand why experienced HPLX users do not wish to change to a
new Palmtop and OS before they have to.

Another reason why people aren't giving up their HP's for something more
modern is probably that Psion haven't done much to market their machines
outside of Europe. Given the choice between a HPLX and a WinCE machine, I
would find it hard to decide. The HP would give me simplicity, a stable OS and
this list, the WinCE would give me a proper keyboard, a touch sensitive colour
screen and new advanced applications being developed. If you add EPOC / Psion
to the equation, there is no contest. In a Psion S5mx or Ericsson MC218 you
get a very stable OS, lots and lots of great freeware, shareware and
commercial applications being continually developed and supported, a great
keyboard and a touch sensitive screen.

At present the only palmtop size EPOC computer with a colour screen is the
Nokia 9210 communicator phone, but we are expecting a lot of new devices
within the next six months. If you can live with a subnotebook sized device,
you can get colour EPOC on the Psion Series 7 and NetBook.

Owen
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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:04:24 -0500
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Dear Folks,

The ongoing furor (Scott & Zip drive) is a good lesson. I am
in a strange position, being a member of the community, and a
vendor to the same community. I am not sure it is right for me
to say anything about another vendor. I have expressed my
views in private to several people.

Let me speak to the general issue of the relationship. Bad
shipments happen. There are plenty of goons and gorillas hired
by all the entities that ship. If that isn't sufficient to
break things, the airlines add their own gorillas to batter
packages further.

We all know this is a reality. We have all received packages
before that seem to have travelled to hell and back - at least
by their appearance. Some have clearly travlled to war zones
and have been used in the front in (very) active duty! :)

Fortunately, what D&A sends out almost never breaks, and even
then the diskettes contents can always be emailed. But manuals
were lost before. In a cse just a month ago, a package sent
via US Postal Services went to the big giant receptacle in the
sky somewhere, never to be seen again. For all I know, the
customer got it and kept it to have another copy, or it really
got lost - I don't know for sure. Timing was good: I called on
the customer to follow up since I heard nothing from him. He
admitted that he was about to send me an impatient message. So
I got in just on time. I spent the $11.75 to send a
replacement by Express Mail because the customer was unhappy.

I also asked him to send back the other (first) package if,
and when it arrives. At my cost. It felt like he turned
around, and was not upset, and in fact felt well taken care
of.

I work within a community where many many people are friends,
and I know so many names, and have had personal correspondence
with many many of you. I like it this way. I think it is the
best way to work - with friends, in something that interests
me. I think I am very fortunate.

Is the customer always right? Hahahaha! No. Not nearly. But it
makes no difference who is right. This is about a trust bond
between someone who sends money, to buy and unseen item, to
someone he/she have never seen before and do not know, in
exchange for a promised item. This trust cannot be broken.

Some of you know that I am not reluctant or shy to criticize
customers, sometimes even in public, if that is what I thought
was right to do. (Sometimes I even regretted the strength of
my criticism :> ...) But in terms of making things right, the
customer is right, always. Regardless of who is right. When I
send something to someone, I own it until the customer sends
back a confirmation - "it arrived, and it works."

The is an old saying that it takes 12 satisfied customers to
balance out a foulup with one. I am mindful of this. I think
anyone who sells anything to others should engrave this in
reverse on their chest - big letters - so when they look in
the mirror every day, they can see this: "Fix the screw up,
regardless of who is right." :) (Well, that's a lot to carve
in flesh...)

I am hoping for the customer in question here that he gets an
email on Xmas day from his vendor saying: "send it back, I'll
send another, good one, at no cost to you, with my
compliments."

I hope for the vendor in question that he wakes up. I read
many "ban Scott" posts, and that means his reputation is in
the toilet. It does not mean no one will buy from him, but his
reputation and the trust he worked hard to build, and touts in
his posts, that is in the toilet. I hope he finds somewhere
among the hundreds of cards that he sold sufficient profit to
cover this one loss, and maybe one or two others.

I hope for all of us that we do not lose a vendor who provided
something useful to many of us.

I also commend this group for the exceptional courtesy given
to the customer, the vendor, and everyone who posted about it
- we seem to be maturing as a group. Thank you all for this.

Finally, I wish you all Happy Holidays from my heart. Whatever
you happen to celebrate, or to not celebrate <G>, hopefully
this is a good time for you in your life, and the beginning of
a lovely future.

(I know I am safe to express this non-religious sentiment
vis-a-vis my dear and enchanting friend, the lovely and
healing Nathalie, since she is celebrating the holidays with
her Mom, but I don't know if this is sufficiently devoid of
religious content to remain safe from the wrath of the nordic
Grinch, Lars :-> ....)

All the best to you all!

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:12:21 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Timetracker/LX

John Musielewicz writes:
>
> Thanks for the tip. How do you type continue? When I hit c it asks
> about filters.

What I meant is that I type the text "Continue" in the memo field.  This
way when I generate my monthly report (or review my day's work) I can see
that this block of time was spent on the same activity as the previous
block under the same code.


> Wouldn't del do the same thing if you wanted to restart at a new time?

I'm not sure--the Ctrl-Del function doesn't seem to work on my copy.  I
did go back and reread the manual on Resume -- it apparently works
differently from what I thought.


> Does Timetraker export into csv format in case I wanted to import into
> a database?

You can write a pretty good variety of reports (the manual descibes the
methods pretty well), but the included spreadsheet format writes quote
delimited, comma separated variable files. I expect they would go easily
into most database programs.

Ted

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:26:12 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: The future of DOS palmtops.

Owen H. Morgan writes:

>                   ...I think part of the reason there are still so many
> HPLX users on this list is that not that they have not been able to find
> anything better, but a case of if it ain't broken, don't fix it!

DOH!  *Now* you've done it.

Ted

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 15:01:03 +0900
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              Toshiki Sasabe <toshis@MBA.SPHERE.NE.JP>
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Dear X-Finder users.

The latest beta test version of X-Finder (R.11 Beta 13) and the latest
released version of X-Finder Server (R.7) are available from the
following page.

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/

Enjoy!

Toshiki Sasabe
toshis@mba.sphere.ne.jp
toshiki@j.email.ne.jp (prefered)

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 01:09:18 -0500
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              Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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A Meshar wrote:

> Let me speak to the general issue of the relationship. Bad
> shipments happen.

I would strongly suggest that on this issue Scott eat the cost of a
drive and shipping and make this customer whole.  It comes down to a
question of which is greater...the cost of making one customer whole or
the cost of loosing many many many customers on this list.  If Scott
refuses to make this customer whole than he runs the risk of loosing who
knows how many list members as customers.  When I purchased items for my
brother in laws 200lx I made sure not to use Scott because of the
complaints on this list...how many others did the same?  Each day this
goes on is another day where I am less likely to buy from Scott.  I
would point out to Scott that there are other vendors out there and each
day this drags on their stock rises in my book.

The bottom line...Scott...the clock is ticking.

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 01:13:31 -0500
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Theodore Heise wrote:

> Owen H. Morgan writes:
>
> >                   ...I think part of the reason there are still so many
> > HPLX users on this list is that not that they have not been able to find
> > anything better, but a case of if it ain't broken, don't fix it!

Wrong...I have found nothing better on the market.  I have looked at every
device out there and found nothing that comes within a million miles of the
200lx.  I own other devices and compared to the 200lx they suck big time.
Outside of the 200lx everything is not ready for prime time.

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Date:         Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:48:43 -0800
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Hi, I am not sure why posted this to me. Did you read after the sentence
you quoted? It seems like you did not. I strongly take no sides in this
dispute because I haven't sufficient facts, and no one asked me to be the
judge here...

I can only tell you - and all - what _I_ would do, and I explained my
position in my message. I am sure I made it clear and strong enough what my
action would be if I got into a pickle like this one.

But somehow, from the way you framed the quote and what you say,  I feel
you think I think differently from you. I do not. Am I missing something?

Still, Scot has to make up his own mind, based on what he has as facts.

Avi
At 12/24/00 -0500, you wrote:
>A Meshar wrote:
>
> > Let me speak to the general issue of the relationship. Bad
> > shipments happen.
>
>I would strongly suggest that on this issue Scott eat the cost of a
>drive and shipping and make this customer whole.  It comes down to a
>question of which is greater...the cost of making one customer whole or
>the cost of loosing many many many customers on this list.  If Scott
>refuses to make this customer whole than he runs the risk of loosing who
>knows how many list members as customers.  When I purchased items for my
>brother in laws 200lx I made sure not to use Scott because of the
>complaints on this list...how many others did the same?  Each day this
>goes on is another day where I am less likely to buy from Scott.  I
>would point out to Scott that there are other vendors out there and each
>day this drags on their stock rises in my book.
>
>The bottom line...Scott...the clock is ticking.
>
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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 08:28:46 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Motorola StarTac and the 200lx
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Fred,

Daniel Hertrich published a solution for the Siemens S25, S35, SXX on
his web page.

http://daniel.hplx.net

To make it short, it requires electronic stuff to provide 12 V to the
hp200lx connector and 3.X to the Siemens cellular.

The board layout was done here in Munich, by an employee of a former
partner (G=FCnther & Partner GmbH), I have no idea, if this would
be of any help for the Motorola StarTAC.

My cable here is about 10 inch long, the weight is 0.63 oz.


Kind regards

Helmuth


> > Now if someone would shorten and fit the StarTAC data cable with the
> > custom HP connector:-), hint, hint. It kind of ackward carrying two
> > cables and null modem.
>
> That would be nice.
>
> And after the other message re: sprint and cell phones and the circuit
> board in the db9 connector I looked over the motorola connector and
> noticed for the first time that at the motorola end of the cable, its
> plug actually has another plug/socket on its side????
>
> I GUESS that the power cable could be plugged into that?????
>
> And do us Motorola-folks have a circuit board inside our db9 connector?
> (G))
>
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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 04:52:49 -0500
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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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The problem I have is that my 200 LX base is starting to gape open (opening
up) on the right back corner at the connection between the keyboard and the
actual base and I can just barely see where all the electronics are located.
I would like
to tighten it up back.  I removed the rubber "foot" at that corner and even
though I can see a metal "screw head" under it, it does not appear to be a
phillips or straight screw head and I think the screwable head may be on the
other
side, under the keyboard.  I could glue that corner back but that might
create a problem should the LX need to be opened for repair at a later date.

Any ideas how to repair or how to find the website that had the step by step
pictures of how to open up a palmtop?

Thank you.


Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 09:41:29 -0500
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Sun, 24 Dec 2000 09:40:41 -0500 (EST)

"Kind Wishes" for a Happy Holiday Season and Prosperous New Year!

*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 10:04:18 -0500
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              KenLondon <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> Hi, I am not sure why posted this to me. Did you read after the sentence
> you quoted? It seems like you did not.

Yes...I read the entire message.  I posted this to you because your message was
the message I had just read on the subject...there were more further down the
list but had not gotten to them yet.  I had reached the point where I wanted to
tell Scott it was time to end this.  I also wanted to point out that I
purchased stuff for my brother in law for 200lx for xmas and was from someone
else other than Scott.  For me he lost far more in sales than he would have if
he just replaced the zip drive in question.

> But somehow, from the way you framed the quote and what you say,  I feel
> you think I think differently from you. I do not. Am I missing something?
>

No...I was essentially agreeing with you.

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 09:47:04 -0600
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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I think a better example of moral theater might be to twist
someone's good wishes and good will and call it false because, even
though it doesn't speak against your beliefs, it doesn't
specifically speak to them.

You harm your cause.

Barry-carnivore
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Avi wrote:

>May you find in yourself all the energy > for  love and care of
others =
in your life, and dispense it with delight and
> enthusiasm.
>

OK,thanks,but if this fine words only are valid for humans,and
not other species of Mother Earth,aren't they then only a false
anthropocentric moraltheatre?

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 10:24:25 -0600
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Jeff Malka wrote:

> The problem I have is that my 200 LX base is starting to gape open (opening
> up) on the right back corner at the connection between the keyboard and the
> actual base and I can just barely see where all the electronics are located.
> I would like
> to tighten it up back.  I removed the rubber "foot" at that corner and even
> though I can see a metal "screw head" under it, it does not appear to be a
> phillips or straight screw head and I think the screwable head may be on the
> other
> side, under the keyboard.  I could glue that corner back but that might
> create a problem should the LX need to be opened for repair at a later date.
>
> Any ideas how to repair or how to find the website that had the step by step
> pictures of how to open up a palmtop?

Don't know what your problem is but the screw is a Torx T6.
You can't buy a T6 driver at just any hardware store, I know
because I looked all around.  I ended up getting a set of German
Wiha small Torx screwdrivers from www.action-electronics.com
after I messed up the heads on a couple of these with a .050 Allen
wrench.  Dont glue it!  There is something wrong under there and
if you've never had a 200LX apart before I wouldn't recommend
doing it yourself.  I myself have never had a 200LX apart but I've
taken my nonfunctional 100LX apart and I suspect internally the
100LX and 200LX are similar.  At the right back corner is the
connector for the external power supply with some small loose
wires that are also connected to the motherboard.  There are also
two metal rods back there running from the battery receptacle to
clips on the motherboard.  My suspicion is that either these rods
have come unclipped, or more likely, the small loose wires
that run from the external power socket to the motherboard have
somehow worked their way between the top and bottom
plastic halves in the area of the screw posts.  When you put a 100LX
case back together it is easy to get these small wires sandwiched
in between the screw posts so that the case won't close properly.

Better send it to Thaddeus to have it fixed before something
inside gets fried and your palmtop is toast.

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HI,

Yes, our ancestors the Vikings celebrated the wintersolstice and today
we Swedish people are like the good old Vikings- always open for a
celebration and especially if we can get a good reason for opening a
bottle of Swedish Vodka, beer or Carlshamns Flaggpunch! :-) So take the
oportunity- cheers!!! :-)

Jorgen

> >   Merry Christmas & Happy new Year
> >        Bonne F=EAte & Bonne ann=E9e
> > Sch=F6ne Wiehnachtn & Es guets Neus
> > Schene Weihnachtn & Aguats nais Jahr
> > Frohe Weihnachten & ein gl=FCckliches Neues Jahr
> >
> >      Kind regards & Herzlicher Gru=DF
> >
> >                Helmuth
>
> But I am pagan,and clebrate only the wintersolstice just like
> my ancestors did,that is the Vikings.
>
> So I have no belief in the christianity,and do not parttake in
> their celebrations _at all_

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 12:35:39 -0500
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12/24/00 11:38 am EST

Greetings & Happy Holidays again All:

   It has always been my policy to allow FS posts to the HPLX-L. This
   does not mean that I personally endorse anyone who advertises items
   for sale/auction/trade. So far I feel that the HPLX community is
   best served by allowing such posts. If it comes to my attention
   that a member is purposefully defrauding other members, I will
   revoke their privilages (but in truth this may be fairly hard to
   prove without many people getting "burnt", before this would happen).

   In the current case, it seems that the liability for the safe
   shipment of the equipment is in question. I have made my personal
   opinion known to Scott. Scott has taken some steps to clairify his
   liability of shipment in future, thanks to input from the LIST. If
   you don't approve of his business practices, don't purchase from
   him.


   Cheers...AJKind



*
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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 11:58:34 -0500
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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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Thank you very much.  Good advice.

Looking at it carefully, the screw head does appear to be something wierd
which must be tyhe Torx you mention.  Unfortunately, as I look at it under
magnification, it does appear as if it is not the screw that is loose but
rather that the area of plastic it grips that must have broken so that the
screwhead no longer grips it.  That is more than I would want to handle.

Thanks you.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
Registered Linux user  183185

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From: Evan Person <eperson@mediaone.net>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Jeff Malka
<malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Opening HP base case


> Jeff Malka wrote:
>
> > The problem I have is that my 200 LX base is starting to gape open
(opening
> > up) on the right back corner at the connection between the keyboard and
the
> > actual base and I can just barely see where all the electronics are
located.
> > I would like
> > to tighten it up back.  I removed the rubber "foot" at that corner and
even
> > though I can see a metal "screw head" under it, it does not appear to be
a
> > phillips or straight screw head and I think the screwable head may be on
the
> > other
> > side, under the keyboard.  I could glue that corner back but that might
> > create a problem should the LX need to be opened for repair at a later
date.
> >
> > Any ideas how to repair or how to find the website that had the step by
step
> > pictures of how to open up a palmtop?
>
> Don't know what your problem is but the screw is a Torx T6.
> You can't buy a T6 driver at just any hardware store, I know
> because I looked all around.  I ended up getting a set of German
> Wiha small Torx screwdrivers from www.action-electronics.com
> after I messed up the heads on a couple of these with a .050 Allen
> wrench.  Dont glue it!  There is something wrong under there and
> if you've never had a 200LX apart before I wouldn't recommend
> doing it yourself.  I myself have never had a 200LX apart but I've
> taken my nonfunctional 100LX apart and I suspect internally the
> 100LX and 200LX are similar.  At the right back corner is the
> connector for the external power supply with some small loose
> wires that are also connected to the motherboard.  There are also
> two metal rods back there running from the battery receptacle to
> clips on the motherboard.  My suspicion is that either these rods
> have come unclipped, or more likely, the small loose wires
> that run from the external power socket to the motherboard have
> somehow worked their way between the top and bottom
> plastic halves in the area of the screw posts.  When you put a 100LX
> case back together it is easy to get these small wires sandwiched
> in between the screw posts so that the case won't close properly.
>
> Better send it to Thaddeus to have it fixed before something
> inside gets fried and your palmtop is toast.
>
> Evan
>
>
>

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 12:41:48 -0500
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Al Kind wrote:

>  If
>   you don't approve of his business practices, don't purchase from
>    him.

I don't so I didn't.

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 13:30:48 -0500
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              Tom Salwasser <TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>If
   you don't approve of his business practices, don't purchase from
   him.<

This is fine for people who know his practices, but people new to Scott's=

policies won't know. I think Scott should be required to add the followin=
g
text to his ads or be banished from the list:

ALL SALES FINAL.NO REFUNDS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. WHAT ARRIVES IN YOUR
MAIL BOX IS ALL YOU'RE GOING TO GET FROM ME. I ONLY ACCEPT MONEY ORDERS S=
O
I STAY IN TOTAL CONTROL OF THE TRANSACTION.THANKS! IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU!=

YOU'RE GREAT!

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 15:36:05 EST
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Subject:      Merry Christmas!

Best wishes to everyone on the list! You've been very kind
and supportive in every way! And my 200LX has been indispensable!

"Get up on a high mountain, Zion, to tell the good news! Call with a loud
voice, Jerusalem, to tell the good news! Raise your voice without fear;
tell the cities of Judah: 'Here is your God!' The Lord's glory is shining
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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 17:36:19 -0500
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              Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA>
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I have never purchased an item from Scott. Just some of my musings.

Scott probably doesn't visit the list very often and this is why so many
posts go by before he responds.
True, when he finally does respond he misses the point.

His sales, particularly of flash disks is interesting. He's selling a used
product but we don't know how much it's been used. He claims to use them
just for  "prototype testing" and when that's done he/his client has no
more need for them.

Couldn't he set aside say 5-10 flash disks to be used for prototype
testing? When he's finished testing a unit, he simply formats the disk and
away he goes. Now he's saving the client the cost of a new flash disk.

Am I missing something here?

  - Eric

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 16:45:24 -0600
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>    In the current case, it seems that the liability for the safe
>    shipment of the equipment is in question.

One thing that might be helpful from the business world is: where is the
sale is considered *made*?  This is typically spelled out by a statement
on the order such as "FOB seller's dock", or alternatively, "FOB
buyer's dock".  If any problems arise later, the responsible party is
clear.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Mon, 25 Dec 2000 02:37:58 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: Opening HP base case
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> The problem I have is that my 200 LX base is starting to gape open (opening
> up) on the right back corner at the connection between the keyboard and the
> actual base and I can just barely see where all the electronics are located.
> I would like to tighten it up back.

Someone else noted the type of driver needed.

I've also heard of a few cases where the screw stripped the threads in
the upper case.  In which event folks have plugged it back with an epoxy
putty but not to permanently anchor the screw - just to give it
something to grab.  I would guess it was done with putty, screw in the
screw, to set the thread mold, unscrew and allow it to harden?

Good luck.

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 11:58:34 -0500
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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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Thank you very much.  Good advice.

Looking at it carefully, the screw head does appear to be something wierd
which must be tyhe Torx you mention.  Unfortunately, as I look at it under
magnification, it does appear as if it is not the screw that is loose but
rather that the area of plastic it grips that must have broken so that the
screwhead no longer grips it.  That is more than I would want to handle.

Thanks you.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
Registered Linux user  183185

----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Person <eperson@mediaone.net>
To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; Jeff Malka
<malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Opening HP base case


> Jeff Malka wrote:
>
> > The problem I have is that my 200 LX base is starting to gape open
(opening
> > up) on the right back corner at the connection between the keyboard and
the
> > actual base and I can just barely see where all the electronics are
located.
> > I would like
> > to tighten it up back.  I removed the rubber "foot" at that corner and
even
> > though I can see a metal "screw head" under it, it does not appear to be
a
> > phillips or straight screw head and I think the screwable head may be on
the
> > other
> > side, under the keyboard.  I could glue that corner back but that might
> > create a problem should the LX need to be opened for repair at a later
date.
> >
> > Any ideas how to repair or how to find the website that had the step by
step
> > pictures of how to open up a palmtop?
>
> Don't know what your problem is but the screw is a Torx T6.
> You can't buy a T6 driver at just any hardware store, I know
> because I looked all around.  I ended up getting a set of German
> Wiha small Torx screwdrivers from www.action-electronics.com
> after I messed up the heads on a couple of these with a .050 Allen
> wrench.  Dont glue it!  There is something wrong under there and
> if you've never had a 200LX apart before I wouldn't recommend
> doing it yourself.  I myself have never had a 200LX apart but I've
> taken my nonfunctional 100LX apart and I suspect internally the
> 100LX and 200LX are similar.  At the right back corner is the
> connector for the external power supply with some small loose
> wires that are also connected to the motherboard.  There are also
> two metal rods back there running from the battery receptacle to
> clips on the motherboard.  My suspicion is that either these rods
> have come unclipped, or more likely, the small loose wires
> that run from the external power socket to the motherboard have
> somehow worked their way between the top and bottom
> plastic halves in the area of the screw posts.  When you put a 100LX
> case back together it is easy to get these small wires sandwiched
> in between the screw posts so that the case won't close properly.
>
> Better send it to Thaddeus to have it fixed before something
> inside gets fried and your palmtop is toast.
>
> Evan
>
>
>

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 10:04:18 -0500
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              KenLondon <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> Hi, I am not sure why posted this to me. Did you read after the sentence
> you quoted? It seems like you did not.

Yes...I read the entire message.  I posted this to you because your message was
the message I had just read on the subject...there were more further down the
list but had not gotten to them yet.  I had reached the point where I wanted to
tell Scott it was time to end this.  I also wanted to point out that I
purchased stuff for my brother in law for 200lx for xmas and was from someone
else other than Scott.  For me he lost far more in sales than he would have if
he just replaced the zip drive in question.

> But somehow, from the way you framed the quote and what you say,  I feel
> you think I think differently from you. I do not. Am I missing something?
>

No...I was essentially agreeing with you.

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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 23:08:29 -0500
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              "thomas e. nemeth" <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Lars wrote....
OK,thanks,but if this fine words only are valid for humans,and
not other species of Mother Earth,aren't they then only a false
anthropocentric moraltheatre?

And again...
But I am pagan,and clebrate only the wintersolstice just like
my ancestors did,that is the Vikings.

Ok, lemme get this straight...Vikings were vegetarians? Where'd all that
testosterone come from then?
Didn't they wear animal skins and horns too?  Or were those cool outfits
just polyester n plastic?

Anyway Lars, I wish you and the other pagans a happy winter solstice. =


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Date:         Sun, 24 Dec 2000 20:31:08 -0800
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> Al Kind wrote:
>
> >  If
> >   you don't approve of his business practices, don't
> purchase from
> >    him.
>
> I don't so I won't.
>
yor pal al..........

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Date:         Mon, 25 Dec 2000 06:06:11 +0100
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              HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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>
> The problem I have is that my 200 LX base is starting to gape open =
(opening
> up) on the right back corner at the connection between the keyboard and =
the
> actual base and I can just barely see where all the electronics are =
located.
> I would like
> to tighten it up back.  I removed the rubber "foot" at that corner and =
even
> though I can see a metal "screw head" under it, it does not appear to =
be a
> phillips or straight screw head and I think the screwable head may be =
on the
> other
> side, under the keyboard.  I could glue that corner back but that might
> create a problem should the LX need to be opened for repair at a later =
date.
>
> Any ideas how to repair or how to find the website that had the step by =
step
> pictures of how to open up a palmtop?

It's critical that this screw is tight as it presses the press fit
connector area of the motherboard and the leads to the screen together.
Glueing does not help. The right tool for the srew is a Torxx
screwdriver but you can use a standart x-shaped screwdriver as well. No
need to open the case.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Opening HP base case

   >Don't know what your problem is but the screw is a Torx T6.
   >You can't buy a T6 driver at just any hardware store, I know
   >because I looked all around.  I ended up getting a set of German
   >Wiha small Torx screwdrivers from www.action-electronics.com
Message-Id: <20001225065306.RZGB1500.mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net@12.72.154.12>
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 06:53:11 +0000

Ah, the benefits of cross-list memberships!

In fact the infamous Torx T6 is also used on the base assembly for all of
the HP Omnibook series of notebooks, and list members there went thru the
same agony of search till someone discovered that T6 can be found at many
Sears department stores (hardware, with the screwdrivers).


- Longden

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Guys, please. Let's avoid a lynch mob. For all his (near) absence of active
replies to people's inquiries, he did change his policies. Now that he has
done that, people are more clearly aware of the risks and along with one
dissatisfied customer, people should act according to their comfort level.
While it will not make Mark's situation go away, let's not forget that Scott
has in many instances provided great service (and we have public feedback to
prove it). So, let's keep the facts straight and our heads cool. If you
stopped buying from every store that has one dissatisfied customer or stopped
buying from any ebay seller that has only one bad feedback, thing would get
restrained real fast.

For the record, knowing all these things about scott only makes him a less
attractive deal than before, that's all. Something for me to keep in mind.

And for all those who join the list and don't know scott, may I suggest that
we find a way to rate sellers (in a page maintained by Al or something) in a
way similar to eBay. Now this may now be necessary since there are only a few
sellers, but if the safety of newbies are at stake, we should find a good
solution for this problem.

On the other hand, I know that many people just want Scott to make amends so
that things get resolved, and this may just happen. But then again it may not.
One way or the other, the show must go on...

Thanks,

Philippe

>===== Original Message From HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>, Ken
London <KenLondon@BELD.NET> =====
>Scott wrote:
>
>> I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.
>
>bhah.blah,blah
>
>Scott,
>
>I don't think you get it....you have people on this list are angry with
>you.  I would strongly suggest you make this right before your fellow list
>members blackball you.  You are going along conducting business as usual
>while fellow list members are ready to lynch you at dawn.
>
>I trust that I will see on this list in the next day or so that this has
>been settled to the satisfaction of all concerned.
>
>I would also point out that for xmas I purchased 200lx stuff for my brother
>in law and purchased it elsewhere as a result of this problem which has not
>been resolved yet.
>
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Date:         Mon, 25 Dec 2000 04:32:00 -0500
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              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Morgan wrote:


> Another reason why people aren't giving up their HP's for something =
more
> modern is probably that Psion haven't done much to market their machines
> outside of Europe.


Another reason can be that people  need their HP:s mainly for
emailing,and then it works great,so why then buy a new
handheld??

Another advantage is the close contact with the constructors of
www/lx,I don't think you would get that with EPOC.

yours

Lars

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Date:         Mon, 25 Dec 2000 14:17:27 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Jeff,

> Looking at it carefully, the screw head does appear to be something =
wierd
> which must be tyhe Torx you mention.  Unfortunately, as I look at it =
under
> magnification, it does appear as if it is not the screw that is loose =
but
> rather that the area of plastic it grips that must have broken so that =
the
> screwhead no longer grips it.  That is more than I would want to =
handle.

This means that the plastic dome of the overmolded brass bushing on the
lower half of the case has broken. Send your palmtop to Thaddeus which
will have to replace the bottom housing.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Mon, 25 Dec 2000 10:08:12 -0500
Reply-To:     theise@netins.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      PDF converter (from MS-News Digest V2000 #616)

There have been requests regarding pdf -> text conversions, so some
may find this program of interest.  I have not tested it on the 200LX.

I've also left in info about the list, as some here may be interested
in it.  Most of the announcements are for Windows programs, but every
week or two there is an issue of DOS programs.


MS-News List Manager writes:
> MS-News Digest         Mon, 25 Dec 2000      Volume 2000 : Issue 616
>
> MS-News is a moderated one-way mailing list that announces new uploads
> to the Win95/98, Win3.x, and DOS collections.  All files are available
> from FTP.Simtel.Net in /pub/simtelnet and its mirrors, and from
> http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/ on the web.  If you have questions
> or comments about these files please contact the uploader.
>
> Current and back issues of the MS-News Digest are available on the web
> at URL http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/digests/
>
> Administrative mail may be sent to ms-news-request@Simtel.Net but
> please use listserv@Simtel.Net to add or delete yourself from the list.
> If you wish to unsubscribe, send e-mail (from the same address used
> when you subscribed) with this command in the body of the message:
> unsubscribe ms-news
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:28:17 -0500 (EST)
> From: schoutdi@knoware.nl (Dirk Schouten)
> To: MS-News@Simtel.Net
> Cc: schoutdi@knoware.nl
> Subject: pdf-txt1.zip - Converts Adobe Acrobat PDF text files to ASCII
> Keywords: simtel,msdos
> Summary: Reposted by Keith Petersen
> Message-Id: <20001213142817.w8sdz@Simtel.Net>
>
> I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:
>
> http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/txtutl/pdf-txt1.zip
> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/txtutl/pdf-txt1.zip 411848 bytes
>
> pdf-txt1.zip    Converts Adobe Acrobat PDF text files to ASCII
>
> pdf-txt v1.0 is a simple command line utility to convert the text part
> of Adobe Acrobat PDF files to ASCII text.
>
> Special requirements: Gzip.exe (included in the package).
>
> GNU General Public License software.  Uploaded by the author's agent.
>
> Dirk Schouten
> schoutdi@knoware.nl
>



--
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Date:         Mon, 25 Dec 2000 16:17:11 -0500
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              Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
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Thanks.  I may have to do that.

It just happened.  No fall or anything!

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
Registered Linux user  183185

----- Original Message -----
From: HP Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: Opening HP base case


Jeff,

> Looking at it carefully, the screw head does appear to be something wierd
> which must be tyhe Torx you mention.  Unfortunately, as I look at it under
> magnification, it does appear as if it is not the screw that is loose but
> rather that the area of plastic it grips that must have broken so that the
> screwhead no longer grips it.  That is more than I would want to handle.

This means that the plastic dome of the overmolded brass bushing on the
lower half of the case has broken. Send your palmtop to Thaddeus which
will have to replace the bottom housing.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Mon, 25 Dec 2000 20:47:44 -0500
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              WEB <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
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From:         WEB <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF - Vegan Vikings?
Comments: To: "thomas e. nemeth" <tnemeth@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Thomas, Lars and anyone else who cares,

Vegetarianism is a choice and like many choices it is based on an
opinion formed by the accumulation of facts. Lars formed his opinion and
is entitled to it. I would like to point out that this doesn't
invalidate anyone else's opinion or holiday wish <grin>. Everyone has
one based on their own facts accelerated through life experiences.

I do, however, have to agree with you that the original Vikings, like
the ones that discovered North America as evidenced in archaeological
record, were originally onivorous. It was a matter of survival to eat a
varied diet. No political correctness (I hate this term) was a
consideration in those long gone days.

Speaking of opinions, this is mine and doesn't stand any higher than any
other. I for one am an omnivore. This is a personal choice. As far as
the other comments regarding Avi's holiday wish for us, I think it only
natural that it would be offered to friends and acquaintances made over
the years of being part of this list.

Lars, I have enough American Indian blood, I won't go into tribal
history right now. It is a bit murky as a result of the Trail of Tears
episode, but I would like to say that I have been taught by my parents
to respect and pay homage to the animals that I kill. I only kill for
food not for trophy. This is not my way and is, again, only my opinion
based on my own personal life experiences and it is very personal.

Cheers,

William E. Blankenship

"thomas e. nemeth" wrote:
>
> Lars wrote....
> OK,thanks,but if this fine words only are valid for humans,and
> not other species of Mother Earth,aren't they then only a false
> anthropocentric moraltheatre?
>
> And again...
> But I am pagan,and clebrate only the wintersolstice just like
> my ancestors did,that is the Vikings.
>
> Ok, lemme get this straight...Vikings were vegetarians? Where'd all that
> testosterone come from then?
> Didn't they wear animal skins and horns too?  Or were those cool outfits
> just polyester n plastic?
>
> Anyway Lars, I wish you and the other pagans a happy winter solstice.
>
> tom
>
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Date:         Mon, 25 Dec 2000 20:53:06 -0500
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              WEB <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
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Subject:      Re: The future of DOS palmtops.
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Lars,

Good point!! That is definately on of the great advantages of using the
200LX. I wish I had mine unplugged from the charger right now but I have
been using all week for data collection and the batteries are in dire
need of charging.

William E. Blankenship

Lars Hedstroem wrote:
>
> Another advantage is the close contact with the constructors of
> www/lx,I don't think you would get that with EPOC.
>
> yours
>
> Lars

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Date:         Tue, 26 Dec 2000 01:34:35 -0500
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              Jack Schudel <jgs2@NERSP.NERDC.UFL.EDU>
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Not having ever dealt with Scott, I suspect that he works as a
consultant
and charges his clients list price for the flash memory cards,
does his contract, and then sells the used cards for extra cash.

I doubt that a real company would turn over so many cards,
so I have to assume that he is dealing with "other people's money."

/jack


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA>
Date: Sunday, December 24, 2000 5:19 PM
>
>His sales, particularly of flash disks is interesting. He's selling a
used
>product but we don't know how much it's been used. He claims to use
them
>just for  "prototype testing" and when that's done he/his client has no
>more need for them.
>
>Couldn't he set aside say 5-10 flash disks to be used for prototype
>testing? When he's finished testing a unit, he simply formats the disk
and
>away he goes. Now he's saving the client the cost of a new flash disk.
>
>Am I missing something here?

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Date:         Tue, 26 Dec 2000 09:29:44 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              KenLondon <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Jack Schudel wrote:

> Not having ever dealt with Scott, I suspect that he works as a
> consultant
> and charges his clients list price for the flash memory cards,
> does his contract, and then sells the used cards for extra cash.

I wonder if these companies know he is selling "their" cards?????

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Date:         Tue, 26 Dec 2000 10:35:01 -0500
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              Andrew King <aking5@MEDIAONE.NET>
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I haven't seen the separate numeric keypad mentioned.
As a techno dweeb I end up arguing with numbers a lot, if it were not
for the 200LX I would be carrying a calculator as well as a PDA. That in
itself is reason enough to stay with the 200LX.
I'm certainly not a power user but the existance of this list is also a
strong incentive.
Although I have only scratched the surface of what the machine can do I
feel better knowing that there is a knowledgeable and dedicated group
that understands the internal working of my little computer.
Thanks to you all
--
Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question

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Date:         Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:44:34 -0500
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:19:44 -0500 (EST)

Again Season's Greetings All:

  Please do not Speculate on another member's business practices or
  reputation. If you have had personal experience, good or bad, that is
  one thing, speculation is quite unappropriate!

  I believe Scott has noe made his shipping policy clear, so any
  more comment by others than his customers is uncalled for.

  Vendors handle things differently, it is not fair to malign one
  vendor for not having the same standards as yours...speak with your
  wallet, if you don't like the deal, don't strike it.

  I would suggest if you feel strongly enough, write Scott personally,
  but please keep unsubstantiated comments off this LIST!

  Cheers...AJKind

*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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Date:         Tue, 26 Dec 2000 23:09:55 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:35:32 -0800, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Good tip. I wonder if this would also work for the Siemens models which
> also suffer the same problem...

It works indeed also with the Siemens phones (at least with my (S35i)!
If I place the phone abt. 10cm away from the palmtop, I get very bad
interference. When I do this acrobatic exercises Tomas described, I
have no interference at all unless I move the phone towards the LX. At
a distance of abt. 5cm the interference reappears.

Maybe we can work out a reliable solution for preventing interference
from that experience!
Stefan, G|nther, Helmuth, please also do this test!

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:44:43 +0100
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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> the oil price is related to HP's forced layoff in January

I often wondered where the oil dollars (francs) end up; doesn't it only cost
the Sheiks drilling and shipping? I can understand their harem and 4-women
muslim habits, but that doesn't eat up zillions of $$$.
I think the oil price is both your governement's way of tax collection and
the sheiks short-sighted habits ending in global warming and lung cancer.
Hydrogen - Electric cars are the future.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:47:50 +0100
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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From:         Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
Subject:      FLUFF i Love Avi
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Avi's such a kind, smooth operator :)

Avi wrote
  "(I know I am safe to express this non-religious sentiment
  vis-a-vis my dear and enchanting friend, the lovely and
  healing Nathalie, since she is celebrating the holidays with
  her Mom"

"healing" ? you mean i am healing the sick in body mind and "spirit" ?
you are not far off there - the end of the year is top for domestic fights,
drunken brawls, suicides, divorces - many get sick of each other, pent up
under one roof playing the gift exchanging economic animal

as for "enchanting and lovely" - blush.... you haven't met me (yet) in
person.... i come with evolutionary baggage! :)

and as for the story of the birth of Christ, if the Bible is correct, it
shows that Mary was a 16 year old single mother with no prospects, Joseph
was a reluctant step-father, Jesus was born in humble conditions, but his
mother and step-dad raised him to his father's principles and laws, and now
you know the rest of the story...

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:56:06 +0100
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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Happy new 3 to 4 Billionth trip around sol to all of my fellow
non-creationist LX friends. I am continuing to be impressed by the longevity
of the LX - it keeps popping up with the ON button for the 20000th time,
while my former Atari, Prolinear, and Poquet have long ago died. One of the
features not getting enough credit, and therefore not often used, is the
Filer's search facility. Searching for an address in Phone, some list
members claim, is to take up to a minute. Not so in Filer. Filer - Options -
Text Search - of a 1 MB directory, containing approx 100 files on a double
speed unit takes no more than 5 seconds to find a single word. I find this
quite impressive. Not even Oulook Express on a Plentium 3 can do better.
Searching text files in Filer and then finding text in memo or QuickViw
seems much faster than using the Apps search engine. Anyone know why? Anyone
familiar with the "upstream algorithm" by Boyer and Moore of the University
of Texas at Austin used in the HPLX's exact string matches?

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 07:36:45 +0100
Reply-To:     m_berrier@gmx.de
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From:         Michael Berrier <m_berrier@GMX.DE>
Subject:      e-mail with our LX
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Hi HPLX list,

new to list and having the intention to use the 200LX for e-mailing,
starting from zero, what needs to be done to get there?? Any kind of
information is appreciated. The person have nothing to do computing at all,
really starting from scratch, please help Thank you !

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 01:28:12 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              KenLondon <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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From:         KenLondon <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fluff HP Problems
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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:

> Hydrogen - Electric cars are the future.

Not until the problem with batteries is solved.   Until then electric cars are
dead.

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Date:         Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:34:11 +0100
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On Sunday, 24.12.2000 at 16:24 GMT, Evan Person  wrote:
>
> Don't know what your problem is but the screw is a Torx T6.
> You can't buy a T6 driver at just any hardware store, I know
> because I looked all around.  I ended up getting a set of German
> Wiha small Torx screwdrivers from www.action-electronics.com
> after I messed up the heads on a couple of these with a .050 Allen
> wrench.
<snip>
I bought a set of very nice TORX screwdrivers (T6-T9) at a Sears store in
the US (Poughkeepsie, to be precise) about two years ago. Since this isn't
the only Sears store in the US :-) you shouldn't have a problem finding the
right tool.

Ulrich Boche

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:26:14 -0600
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> I bought a set of very nice TORX screwdrivers (T6-T9) at a Sears store in
> the US (Poughkeepsie, to be precise) about two years ago. Since this isn't
> the only Sears store in the US :-) you shouldn't have a problem finding the
> right tool.
>
> Ulrich Boche

I thought of trying Sears but every place else I tried didn't
have them, so I figured I wasn't going to waste my time.
Big mistake.  Well, maybe not so big.  I found and ordered
them online in a lot less time than it would have taken me to
hop in the car and go to Sears. :)

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:30:29 -0600
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KenLondon wrote:

> Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
>
> > Hydrogen - Electric cars are the future.
>
> Not until the problem with batteries is solved.   Until then electric cars are
> dead.

My understanding is that the hydrogen provides the power
that charges the batteries, and with this as the power supply
today's battery technology works fine.  The byproduct of
hydrogen power is just water.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:36:13 +0100
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>to use the 200LX for e-mailing,
> starting from zero, what needs to be done to get there??
Trying to contribute:

1.get an e-mail program (see below)
2.transfer the program to your palmtop via:
- connectivity pack
or
- memory card
or
-datacomm
or
-laplink
3.install a modem in your palmtop:
-internal PCMCIA, power draw less than 150mA
-external on serial port
-you can also buy a GSM phone with modem (with data cable or infrared
connection)
4. set up and go.


E-mail programs: I will only comment on two, not having tried others.
-POST/LX part of the www/lx suite (that, with HV, also allows webaccess)
In my opinion, a little bit more complicated to set up compared to
Goin'Postal. As a friend said, rightly,
this is perhaps more a matter of religion than of fact  :-;
Payware
- Goin'Postal, my preference, simple to set up, flexible, extremely
reliable, small (150K I think)
Freeware, download from Super. Does not allow infrared connection
Both programs allows connection via a network.

HTH, you are welcome if more info is needed

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:48:41 -0500
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Evan Person wrote:

> My understanding is that the hydrogen provides the power
> that charges the batteries, and with this as the power supply
> today's battery technology works fine.  The byproduct of
> hydrogen power is just water.

I'll stick with gasoline for now...I don't want to be stranded in the middle of
nowhere because I had no way to recharge the battery.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:52:19 -0500
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Etienne Lemaire wrote:

> >to use the 200LX for e-mailing,
> > starting from zero, what needs to be done to get there??
> Trying to contribute:
>
> 1.get an e-mail program (see below)

Are there any ISPs that are comapatible with DOS?  I was under the
impression that the only usable ISP was compuserve classic which is no
longer available.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:58:30 -0600
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, KenLondon wrote:

> Are there any ISPs that are comapatible with DOS?  I was under the
> impression that the only usable ISP was compuserve classic which is no
> longer available.

I have yet to find an ISP that can't be accessed with the LX. The ISP
doesn't care what your OS is, it's just looking to establish a TCP/IP
connection.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:21:08 -0500
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> as for "enchanting and lovely" - blush.... you haven't met me (yet) in
> person.... i come with evolutionary baggage! :)

I am sure you are still enchanting even with the backwards photo-receptors=
 in
your retinas <g>.

Steve Carder MD

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:27:48 -0600
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Here's a nifty HP shirt:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=531227271

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 16:13:09 -0500
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The Toy ota Prius is a step in the right direction. It's a gas(petrol)
powered Hybrid that is already proven and can be had now.

http://prius.toyota.com/




> Evan Person wrote:
>
> > My understanding is that the hydrogen provides the power
> > that charges the batteries, and with this as the power supply
> > today's battery technology works fine.  The byproduct of
> > hydrogen power is just water.
>
> I'll stick with gasoline for now...I don't want to be stranded in the
middle of
> nowhere because I had no way to recharge the battery.
>
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Ed Padin wrote:

> The Toy ota Prius is a step in the right direction. It's a gas(petrol)
> powered Hybrid that is already proven and can be had now.
>
> http://prius.toyota.com/

I have had the honor of sitting in Mack's Prius.... it's a nifty car.

Jeff

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Jeff wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Ed Padin wrote:
>
> > The Toy ota Prius is a step in the right direction. It's a gas(petrol)
> > powered Hybrid that is already proven and can be had now.
> >
> > http://prius.toyota.com/
>
> I have had the honor of sitting in Mack's Prius.... it's a nifty car.

Mack has a Prius???  Cool!  How are they different
from the Honda version, Insight I think it's called?
I was going to go look at one last summer when
the gas prices went over $2.00 a gallon in Chicago,
but a friend said the dealers were sold out and didn't
even have any on display.  Then I never followed up
on it.  I've seen a few on the road (the Honda, not the
Toyota).  How are they on heat in the winter?

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 16:22:22 -0600
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Evan Person wrote:

> from the Honda version, Insight I think it's called?
> I was going to go look at one last summer when
> the gas prices went over $2.00 a gallon in Chicago,
> but a friend said the dealers were sold out and didn't
> even have any on display.  Then I never followed up
> on it.  I've seen a few on the road (the Honda, not the
> Toyota).  How are they on heat in the winter?

The Prius is a sedan instead of a coupe. The first time I got in it I
couldn't find the gear shift lever.... it's on the dash :)

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:23:50 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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It would be nice if the function of RING.COM could be integrated in
WWW/LX so that one easily could tell if the phone is disturbing the
hp200lx. I know that there is a indication for the status of the IR =
connection
but it is not quite the same as the indication RING.COM gives.

Daniel Hertrich wrote:
...
> If I place the phone abt. 10cm away from the palmtop, I get very bad
> interference. When I do this acrobatic exercises Tomas described, I
> have no interference at all unless I move the phone towards the LX. At
...
> Maybe we can work out a reliable solution for preventing interference
> from that experience!
> Stefan, G|nther, Helmuth, please also do this test!
>      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:12:29 -0500
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My dear friend Nathalie,

> I often wondered where the oil dollars (francs) end up; doesn't it only cost
> the Sheiks drilling and shipping? I can understand their harem and 4-women
> muslim habits, but that doesn't eat up zillions of $$$.

You are obviously a cheap date! :-> ...

Have you ever seen how well dressed these ladies are, the
jewels, and the lifestyle? And where did this idea come that
they stop at 4 women? It is 5 wives, I believe, but unlimited
mistresses... :)

If you are willing and able to accept these - then Happy
Holidays wishes to you, otherwise please consider these
unsent. <GGGGG>

All the best!

  Avi

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:12:32 -0500
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF i Love Avi
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Nathalie, you ARE back!

> Avi's such a kind, smooth operator :)

She exaggerates very easily.

> "healing" ? you mean i am healing the sick in body mind and
> "spirit" ?

I mean Medical Doctor, and yes, hippocratically healing the
sick in body and spirit - but I do not mean give spirits to
those who wish to become drunk on alcohol.

> as for "enchanting and lovely" - blush.... you haven't met me
> (yet) in person....

You have not extended the invitation either, I note. :)

> i come with evolutionary baggage! :)

I'd like to see some of your "evolutionary baggage" - I am
curious... <VBG> (Curiosity is part of _my_ evolutionary
baggage <G>...)

> and as for the story of the birth of Christ, if the Bible is
> correct, it shows that Mary was a 16 year old single mother
> with no prospects, Joseph was a reluctant step-father, Jesus
> was born in humble conditions, but his mother and step-dad
> raised him to his father's principles and laws, and now you
> know the rest of the story...

I am far from being an expert on the birth of Christ. I was
not there, nor did I live then.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 19:20:25 EST
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Jeff,
Were you ever able to use AOL for email?

Thanks
Dennis

>  have yet to find an ISP that can't be accessed with the LX.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 19:23:02 -0600
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Dennis Vest wrote:

> Jeff,
> Were you ever able to use AOL for email?

Yep :) I used the old DOS version of AOL for quite some time although I'm
not sure if it still works or not. Be cool!

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:52:56 -0600
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I'm curious as to whether you were able to get your network card to work,
and if so what you are able to do with it.  I bought an Accton card around
Thanksgiving and still can't get it to work.  I'm not real familiar with
networking, but I've created a peer-to-peer network with several Win95 and
Win 98 computers here at home and would like to get my palmtop on it.  I
looked at the recommended sites on the hplx net but was overwhelmed by the
abundance of information and don't know what is necessary.  Your comments
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Ted Brown
brown@worldnetla.net


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> Hello;
>
>      Well I broke down and bought a EN2216-2 Ethernet PC Card.
> Got the CRC check failed when testing with the supplied software.
> Went to their web site, got their trouble shooting FAQ and newer
> versions of the software.  Which cleared up the CRC failure.  The
> only remaining nit appears to be the low card battery warnings.
> Now back to trying to get on the network.  This list inspires the
> oddest little Chritmas projects.
>
> Steve
>
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Date:         Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:17:56 +0100
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>
> On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Dennis Vest wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
> > Were you ever able to use AOL for email?
>
> Yep :) I used the old DOS version of AOL for quite some time although =
I'm
> not sure if it still works or not. Be cool!

No - it's gone since Sprintnet cancelled nodes specifically for DOS-AOL
some two years ago. DOS-AOL worked only through specific Sprintnet
nodes.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:03:01 +1300
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I've got some old software from 1986/87 that uses a "RAM disk". It
apparently needs to have "device=3Dvdisk.sys" in config.sys. I am sure it
will run on my old XT but on the palmtop I get the following on
booting:

VDISK Version 1.0 virtual disk G
sector size adjusted
Directory entries adjusted
VDISK not installed - Extender Card
switches do not match system memory size

Well I know the plamtop does not have an extender card but I'm sure
this wasn't standard on IBM PC's either?? I don't kwo wat this VDISK
is.

Maybe someone has come across this before. Any way of faking a "RAM
disk" on the palmtop? I did try a "subst" and called the subbstituted
drive the RAM disk in the setup for the software - it didnT seem to
believe me<G>

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I have put together the FoxBase+ (dBase III compatible) essential=

program files along with the Q-Edit 4.0 editor into a bundle for=
 anyone who may
want to try it out on the LX. The Foxbase.zip file is 260k and=
 the unzipped
files are around 514k. Subtract about 61k if you wish to use the=
 built in Fox
editor instead of Q-Edit.

Also, I have built a Lotus spreadsheet for use in keeping daily=
 consulting
times for billing purposes. Since I work on relatively short-term=
 contracts
(12-18 months) I track only an individual client on the=
 spreadsheet. It is a
full week on one screen on the LX and allows for separate input=
 of travel time,
expenses, etc on a per diem basis. Automatically tracks weekly=
 totals. Once a
week is finished and the billing is done, I simply copy the range=
 of the screen
and paste it below, allowing a single blank row to separate=
 weeks. Zero out the
daily in and out hours and then set Protection Enabled if=
 desired. What I like
about this method is that all the weekly data is on one screen,=
 it is simple to
edit, one can augment the sheet with all kinds of macros to=
 facilitate
automatic entries, copy the template for another week's entries,=
 etc (though I
haven't bothered to do so), and since all weeks are kept it=
 provides me with a
detail of the entire year's activity with a client. Since travel=
 time is noted,
it also serves as a suitable "record" of business related=
 automobile use at tax
time. If you would like a copy, send me an email and I will send=
 it to you. It
is called. TTLX.WK1 (short for TimeTrack-LX). The file is about=
 14K.

If anyone on the list is also a submini camera collector/user or=
 a mechanical
pencil collector  contact me off list.

Happy New Year to all.



Bob

-- Bob Christopher, rbc@ezlink.com on 12/28/2000

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On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:23:50 +0100 (CET), Tomas Moberg wrote:

> It would be nice if the function of RING.COM could be integrated in
> WWW/LX so that one easily could tell if the phone is disturbing the
> hp200lx. I know that there is a indication for the status of the IR connection
> but it is not quite the same as the indication RING.COM gives.

Good idea. Maybe it is possible to get a % reading or something on the
line at the top of the screen?

Regards

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:17:26 +0100, Cri wrote:

> Hi everyone.
> I came across these two GSM phones: Nokia 6150

6150 is a "old" model. It can still be ordered because a lot of firms
want them.

> and Nokia 9110i (communicator).

Well I want a pda _and_ a phone. Not a pdaphone. I think the 9110i is
to bulky.

> What can I do with them and my HP200LX?

The 6150 has ir, but it is using a standard called Direct Ir. You maybe
can transfer Vcards/phonebook using ir.exe from Dasoft's site.

Carry a 9110 _and_ a Hplx..well I guess you could, but I would rather
go for a smaller phone with irda (8210/8850/6210/7110..)

I guess you can use a 9110 as modem for the Hp200lx running the Ww/lx
suite.

> Are there any commuication programs for the palmtop, eg. to transfer data
> from the Nokia mobiles via IR or cable, and (perhaps) to translate Nokia
> Addresses/numbers to/from GDB files?

I beam a Vcard from Hp200lx's phonebook to my Noka 6210 all the time. I
use ir.exe and some macro stuff to do it.

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<<
I've got some old software from 1986/87 that uses a "RAM disk". It
apparently needs to have "device=vdisk.sys" in config.sys. I am sure it
will run on my old XT but on the palmtop I get the following on
booting:

VDISK Version 1.0 virtual disk G
sector size adjusted
Directory entries adjusted
VDISK not installed - Extender Card
switches do not match system memory size

Well I know the plamtop does not have an extender card but I'm sure
this wasn't standard on IBM PC's either?? I don't kwo wat this VDISK
is.
>>

Really old software.  I think it was DOS's answer to various RAM drive software
(like AST's Superdrive and Ramdrive) that were appearing around DOS 2-3 which
took advantage of the extra memory on the add-on multi-function cards for PCs
(remember the "6-pack plus"?).  This pre-dated EMS, when most software couldn't
use the extra memory on the board ... hence software drivers just presented the
extra ram as a fake drive.

<<
Maybe someone has come across this before. Any way of faking a "RAM
disk" on the palmtop? I did try a "subst" and called the subbstituted
drive the RAM disk in the setup for the software - it didnT seem to
believe me<G>
>>

Well, I'm not sure what the complaint is.  There's no need to "fake" a RAM disk
on the palmtop cuz the LX uses nothing but RAM disks.

"C" (the normal internal drive) is the best example ... what happens when you
try that?  Or try SUBST directly to C -> "subst g: c:\"

If you have the large memory upgrade and hence, drive F, you can try that also.
Just avoid "A" and "B" which most old programs will assume are floppy drives ...
and some less older programs may think "C" is a rotating hard drive.

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> I am far from being an expert on the birth
> of Christ. I was not there, nor did I live then.

I heard a couple of years ago on NPR about a project underway at one
of the California colleges to try to play back recordings made
around the time of Christ, as well as other times.

It seems that pottery was usually mass produced by turning clay
while a stylus following a pattern cut away excess clay,  shaping
it.  This is similar to the process that's used to make records
(anybody remember records?), although the fidelity might be less in
the case of pottery.  Glazing makes it even worse.

What they're working on is a way to use computers to find and play
back any talk that was going on while the pottery was being made.
NPR says they expect to have results in from 5 or 10 years.

So, assuming there was a pottery making shop on the Via Delorosa,
and the procession came by and the people working there commented on
the event, we might have some eyewitness accounts.

It might be a discussion of the reasons that guy was carrying that
cross and wearing that crown of thorns.

Or maybe they made bets on whether he'd trip before he reached the
corner.  We could hear the various betters cheering him on.

Nathalie, maybe they'll be discussing the medical reprocussions of
what was about to happen to him.

Or maybe we'll hear a voice saying "I'm innocent.  You guys just
don't get it!".

Maybe there was more than one pottery making shop.  "Pharisee's Fine
Pots" and  "Saducee's Earthenware and Recording Studio" across the
street.  "Vases by Essenes" next door.   We'll get to hear different
views on the situation.

Maybe the Sanhedrin was standing next to one of the shops and we'll
hear them discussing the political ramifications.

Maybe we'll find out Barrabas beat Joshua by 214 votes and there was
some questionable counting.

The possibilities are limitless.

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On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Barry wrote:

> What they're working on is a way to use computers to find and play
> back any talk that was going on while the pottery was being made.
> NPR says they expect to have results in from 5 or 10 years.

And if they play it backwards it'll no doubt say, "Turn me on dead man."

Ted <toungue firmly in cheek>

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If they try to play this thing back they will get something to the
effect of:

"What have you been smoking man if you think this is going to work?"

You show me someone working on this project and I'll show you someone
who has entirely too much time and money on their hands.

Just think...our tax money is paying for this.




Barry wrote:

> I heard a couple of years ago on NPR about a project underway at one
> of the California colleges to try to play back recordings made
> around the time of Christ, as well as other times.
>
> It seems that pottery was usually mass produced by turning clay
> while a stylus following a pattern cut away excess clay,  shaping
> it.  This is similar to the process that's used to make records
> (anybody remember records?), although the fidelity might be less in
> the case of pottery.  Glazing makes it even worse.

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<<
I heard a couple of years ago on NPR about a project underway at one
of the California colleges to try to play back recordings made
around the time of Christ, as well as other times.

It seems that pottery was usually mass produced by turning clay
while a stylus following a pattern cut away excess clay,  shaping
it.  This is similar to the process that's used to make records
(anybody remember records?), although the fidelity might be less in
the case of pottery.  Glazing makes it even worse.

What they're working on is a way to use computers to find and play
back any talk that was going on while the pottery was being made.
NPR says they expect to have results in from 5 or 10 years.
>>

Shades of "Science Fiction Theater" (hah!  how many remember that TV show?).
There was an episode called "Frozen Sound" where a scientist was accused of
leaking classified information, and fellow scientists rallied to his support by
attempting to locate the "bug" in the lab.

They finally deduced that a foreign power had developed a means of sponging
sound into a special glass that was planted in an innocuous ant trap.  To test
their theory, they developed a means of playing back the sound captured by glass
and one specimen in the lab yielded screams and groans ... and turned out to
have been a relic from Pompei.

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Hello,

     This is a follow-up of my experiences with a EN2216-2 Ethernet
PC Card and the HP 200LX.  The original Idea was to get on the
local area network here at work.

     1) I first tried the software that came with the card.  I
first tested with 1STEP.EXE, the installation and testing program.
Everything went well, except that it said to reboot as the
configuration had changed.  After that it would fail the CRC
test.  (On a laptop it failed the I/O test?)

     2) As I got the CRC check failing when testing with the
supplied software, I went to their web site, got their trouble
shooting FAQ and newer versions of the software.  The stuff from
Accton was a new version of the diskette that came with the card,
1STEP.EXE and so forth.  Which cleared up the CRC failure.  See
http://www.accton.com.sg/accton/drivers/support_index.html and look
for EN2216 Ver 1.05.

     From a thread on the HPLX list at the end of November, I got
ACCTEST.EXE from Dr. Werner Furlan at his site
www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/Acctest.exe.  This seems to have the same test
as the 1STEP.EXE install program from Accton.

     3) The install program tried to install a version of
ETHPCM.DOS, which is an NDIS driver.  And it choked badly, with
some configuration error.

     4) I went to Roger Whitby's site http://rwhitby.hplx.net and
http://rwhitby.hplx.net/lxmnc/index.html and got his networking
setup LXMNC10B.ZIP.  That version of ETHPCM.DOS loaded properly.
However, the network was unreachable with his setup.  I think I
could have tracked down the problem as a configuration problem, but
I then tried loading DLS.

     5) IBM's DOS LAN Services (DLS) came with the LAN Server
software, so the configuration ought to be correct.  So, with
INTERSVR turning my desktop into a slow floppy drive, I went
through the install process (any number of times).  Basicly, the
install software is weirdly particular.  And did you know you can
use ASSIGN.COM to crash Windows 95 in a ugly way?  Wrapping up a
long story, I used SUBST to equate A: and C: so the install program
would find the right copies of AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.  I blew
away everything on my C: drive so there would be enough space to
install DLS.  Pointed COMSPEC to c:\ and put a copy of COMMAND.COM
there.  And I discovered that a partial install would cause a
subsequent install to fail.  I followed the Accton instructions to
first install the LAN Support Program (LSP) and then install DLS.
That may be a waste of time as all the LSP stuff is ignored in the
final DLS setup.

     I was able to access the network, but with a number of error
messages and with only the basic requester.  The full requester
generated an error 50, unsupported network function.

     6) Went from version 4.0 of DLS to version 5.0.  Uses more
disk space, but no other difference that I can see.  And I tried
the generic NE2000 NDIS driver to see if that made a difference.
It gets the same sort of ~ unable to configure or bind ~ errors
that the stock ETHPCM.DOS driver gets.

     So, I have access to the server and the network.  I can't use
any of the functions that require the full version of the
requester.  This basicly means that you need to know what's on the
network as you can't look for it.

     The only remaining nit to report appears to be the low card
battery warnings.  This pops up every once in a while, just to get
your attention.

     So, I can get on the network with the EN2216-2 card.  But to
be practical I'll need to get a larger C: drive to hold more files.
A stock 4 Mb 200LX isn't a very good network workstation.

HTH

Steve

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As an archaeologist with some knowledge of pottery manufacture, I'd say that
they would have better luck trying to capture and amplify the original sound
waves bouncing around in the air than playing a pot like a record. The
"stylus" was as often a finger or a bunch of grass as it would have been
something that would respond to the vibrations of sound waves. In addition,
the amplitude of the background noise (the size of the clay grains and
temper particles) is likely much greater than the amplitude of any sound
wave.

Oh well, it keeps some people off the streets.


Barry wrote:

>
> It seems that pottery was usually mass produced by turning clay
> while a stylus following a pattern cut away excess clay,  shaping
> it.

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Le Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:03:01 +1300
Tony Hutchins <th@PARADISE.NET.NZ> a =E9crit:

> Maybe someone has come across this before. Any way of faking a "RAM
> disk" on the palmtop? I did try a "subst" and called the subbstituted
> drive the RAM disk in the setup for the software - it didnT seem to
> believe me<G>

In don't remember very well about vdisk.sys (old good time <g>), but
there are a lot of ramdrive programs on the Simtel site, some of them
having better possibilities (drive letter selection, etc...) . No doubt
that one of them should work on the HP.

One other thing : if you want to set the ramdrive as G: don't forget to
add a line :
   LASTDRIVE=3DG
in your CONFIG.SYS. Without that, your disk will not be recognized.  =20
(it's limited to E: by default)

Jacques.
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"You have new mail" appeared on the screen...
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Shortly after the introduction of programs that made RAM look like physical
disk( i.e. VDISK and their ilk), programs were introduced that made physical
disk look like extended/expanded ram.

Does anyone know if any of these programs work on a 200lx so that  my PCMCIA
memory cards might look like RAM to the system?

thanks for taking the time
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>      The only remaining nit to report appears to be the low card
> battery warnings.  This pops up every once in a while, just to get
> your attention.

I can't comment on the Windows networking problems, as I've never bothered
with that, but for the card battery warning, look for killmsg on SUPER.

Regards,
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HP,
Thanks for the info......had my hopes up for a second. My wife resists
cancelling AOL and getting a real ISP. It would be nice, however.......

Dennis

> No - it's gone since Sprintnet cancelled nodes specifically for DOS-AOL
>  some two years ago. DOS-AOL worked only through specific Sprintnet
>  nodes.

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Etienne Lemaire:
> -you can also buy a GSM phone with modem (with data cable or infrared
> connection)

Speaking of which...
Does anybody know if the Panasonic GD52/92 GSM phones can do that trick?

I know there's a so-called "Software modem pack EB-RSD92Z" by Panasonic, to
connect such phones to a laptop computer (with data cable), but the system
requirements for this software pack are W95 or higher.

I can't figure out if the whole thing could work in DOS mode...

Cri

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> As an archaeologist with some knowledge of pottery manufacture, I'd say that
> they would have better luck trying to capture and amplify the original sound
> waves bouncing around in the air than playing a pot like a record. The

Darn, just what we need.  A SCIENTIST to throw hot water in an unfired
pot!

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<<
> As an archaeologist with some knowledge of pottery manufacture, I'd say that
> they would have better luck trying to capture and amplify the original sound
> waves bouncing around in the air than playing a pot like a record. The

Darn, just what we need.  A SCIENTIST to throw hot water in an unfired
pot!
>>

In this case, more like cold water into a fired pot <g>.

- Longden

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Tony Hutchins asked about VDISK.SYS

VDISK, even if it could work on the LX, would be redundant.

It was designed to make a small part of RAM look like a disk. The upside was
that you could save info to a RAM disk much faster than you could to a 5.25"
floppy. The downside was that if you forgot to save the RAM disk to the
floppy, and the system crashed, you'd lose all the info.

There's really no benefit that I can think of to having another TSR (or
driver) to emulate a RAM drive on the LX. All the "disks" for the LX are
solid state anyway and are as fast if not faster than any of the early RAM
drives.

To go the other way and convert some of the solid state memory to give the
LX what looks like more RAM, you could use EMM200 or TREMM. You still won't
be able to get beyond the 640K limit of DOS.

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Vdisk.Sys started life as "IBM Internal Only" software as are many
Packages that were written by IBMers on their own time and shared with
others on IBM's internal networks.  The author was Dick Dievendorff and
I believe the internal package got up to version 0.7 (which is what I
have).

(Before anyone asks, NO I will Not send you a copy of my internal
package as I don't want to deal with issues related to that old
confidentially label.)

IBM started  shipping a similar version with one of the PCDOS v3.x
releases.  This lasted until Microsoft started including RAMDISK.

I see NO need to run it on an LX.  The LX C: drive already is a ramdisk.
Carving up DOS's system memory to create another doesn't make any sense
(to me).

> VDISK not installed - Extender Card
> switches do not match system memory size

I believe the extender card was an interfacecard in an XT that had a
connecting cable to another box that could have addition drives and also
adapter cards.  It seems VDISK is seeing something that makes it believe
it is running in an XT with such hardware installed.

Cheers... Russ

Tony Hutchins wrote:
> I've got some old software from 1986/87 that uses a "RAM disk". It
> apparently needs to have "device=vdisk.sys" in config.sys. I am sure it
> will run on my old XT but on the palmtop I get the following on
> booting:
>
> VDISK Version 1.0 virtual disk G
> sector size adjusted
> Directory entries adjusted
> VDISK not installed - Extender Card
> switches do not match system memory size
>
> Well I know the plamtop does not have an extender card but I'm sure
> this wasn't standard on IBM PC's either?? I don't kwo wat this VDISK
> is.
>
> Maybe someone has come across this before. Any way of faking a "RAM
> disk" on the palmtop? I did try a "subst" and called the subbstituted
> drive the RAM disk in the setup for the software - it didnT seem to
> believe me<G>

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Going the other way (was VDISK.SYS)Tony;
We had a discussion awhile ago on this, as I was tring something =
similar. I have created extra ram using expanded memory in the LX, But =
the down side is that it is useless while running the LX's built in =
program manager and apps. I created the extra memory (128K) in upper =
mem, but as it was pointed out to me the LX's built in apps also execute =
in in the upper mem area, which overwrites the extra high mem and locks =
up the LX.

Ron
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Corso, Tony=20
  To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 12:45 PM
  Subject: Going the other way (was VDISK.SYS)


  Shortly after the introduction of programs that made RAM look like =
physical disk( i.e. VDISK and their ilk), programs were introduced that =
made physical disk look like extended/expanded ram.

  Does anyone know if any of these programs work on a 200lx so that  my =
PCMCIA memory cards might look like RAM to the system?

  thanks for taking the time=20
  Regards=20
  Tony =20


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Hi!

Andrew King wrote (>):

> I haven't seen the separate numeric keypad mentioned.
> As a techno dweeb I end up arguing with numbers a lot, if it
> were not for the 200LX I would be carrying a calculator as
> well as a PDA. That in itself is reason enough to stay with
> the 200LX.

The EPOC machines have an excellent calculator program with a choice between
desktop (with an onscreen till roll) and scientific modes. In fact the desktop
and scientific are totally seperate calculators so you can copy and paste
between them. There are also a couple of different third party calculators
including a HP scientific calculator clone and a tiny onscreen calculator
which can be "floated over" other applications. None of the present crop of
EPOC computers have numeric keypads, but since they have touch sensitive
screens and the calculators have onscreen buttons, I doubt if you can input
numbers any faster into the HP calculator than on an EPOC machine. Since
EPOC is a true multitasking OS, you can get at the calculator(s) regardless
what other software is running.

> I'm certainly not a power user but the existance of this list is
> also a strong incentive.
> Although I have only scratched the surface of what the
> machine can do I feel better knowing that there is a
> knowledgeable and dedicated group that understands the
> internal working of my little computer.

There is an excellent e-mail based mailing list for the EPOC computers
available through
http://www.pinkworks.com/pda/s5list.html
Many very experienced users follow the list as well as several EPOC software
developers.

> technology is the answer, what was the question

:o)

PS. I'm not suggesting that you should all get rid of your HP's and buy EPOC
machines, but they are worth considering if you are looking for something
else. If you are happy with your HP, then by all means keep on using it! I
wish I'd had one five or ten years ago, but don't think I could live with the
very murky screen and calculator style keyboard today. With the volume of text
I write, I really need a good screen and keyboard.

Owen
--
* This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM *
* Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM *

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311
@ Visiting my sister in Bodx, Northern Norway

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Hello all, thanks to those who responded... All is well thanks to your
help.

> I would suggest discussing this on list--it is definitely on topic, and
> there are other interested parties.
>
> I'm not sure which poster you're calling to, there have been at least
> three who posted about StarTac 7868W-200LX connectivity.  Stan was the
> first, and was pretty clear nothing special was needed--it worked out
> of the box.

Ok Theodore, and you're right, on list would have been a better
choice.  I guess I missed some of the original posts regarding this
subject?  John Musielewicz sent me what I needed to know though :O)
I've had to order a cable as all that is available in this area at
present is the full Motorola synchronization software package for
MS-Windows.  Of course the reps at AllTELL insist that the software is
a must :O)  Once I get everything up and running, I'll report back to
the list.

Sorry for the delay in reply... A medical emergency over the holiday
kinda put a kink in things.

Thanks again for everyones help.

Marcus
zaaap@earthlink.net


> My experience was confounded by a faulty Motorola data cable.  Once I
> got that straightened out, the process was as simple as this:
>
>  *edit my LXTCP dialing script from com2 --> com1
>  *enable com1 in Setup {Control-Filer,F6}
>  *connect HP serial cable to black gender changer to Motorola data =
cable
>  *connect cable assembly to 200LX and StarTac
>  *fire up LXTCP
>
> It works with amazingly little setup or fiddling around.  Speeds seem
> to be in the 9600 range for me--I often use a 14.4 PCMCIA modem, and
> the wireless connection is noticeably slower.  Still, it is sweet to
> be able to grab e-mail or go online when my teenagers have the phone
> tied up, or I'm in a place without phone data ports.
>
> Hope that helps.  Feel free to post specific questions.
>
> Ted
>
> --
> Theodore W. Heise   <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
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> I am sure you are still enchanting even with the backwards photo-receptors
> in your retinas <g>. Steve Carder MD

i have the highest respect for doctors and their timely warnings of the
fragility of our carbonaceaus structures (changing the subject from
'enchanting love Avi' to non-fluff)

one of the more intricate pieces are our eyes; once damaged they are hard to
repair; with the LX's LCD so small it is advisable to use magnifying specs
when staring closely at small script for longer than 10 minutes.

anyone else has been prescribed reading glasses in the last 5 years in part
due to use of the HPLX?

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I have put together the FoxBase+ (dBase III compatible) essential
program files along with the Q-Edit 4.0 editor into a bundle for anyone who
may
want to try it out on the LX. The Foxbase.zip file is 260k and the unzipped
files are around 514k. Subtract about 61k if you wish to use the built in
Fox
editor instead of Q-Edit.

I would like to get that.  Where do you have it?

Thanks.

Jeff Malka <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
Registered Linux user  183185

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Are there any technical docs /books anywhere describing the
differences between exm and exe files.
I have pocket quicken (in floppy ) for the hp100lx
and I want it to run under dosemu on my linux box ...
(I allready have app95 running (:-}} for my old stuff..)

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>
> HP,
> Thanks for the info......had my hopes up for a second. My wife resists
> cancelling AOL and getting a real ISP. It would be nice, however.......
>
> Dennis
>
> > No - it's gone since Sprintnet cancelled nodes specifically for =
DOS-AOL
> >  some two years ago. DOS-AOL worked only through specific Sprintnet
> >  nodes.

I liked the palmtop guy's there who got me going with my 2meg std 200LX
back then. Other than that I don't miss it. Too many pic's and the
like :(

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Fri, 29 Dec 2000 20:14:14 +1300 (NZST)

Many thanks to everybody who helped me with the VDISK.SYS!

It gave me the confidence to assume that the error I was getting from
the software, which was a loud beep accompanied by

"Unrecoverable error #68"

was not due to not having used VDISK.

I only just worked it out!

Before starting I need to do

mode LPT1:=3DCOM1:

The stupid software *assumes* I have a printer on LPT1!!!
Now it just complains that I don't have the printer turned on<G> and it
is usable!! I might try and use one of those utilities that captures
LPT1 output and puts it in a file.

It is great fun getting this old software going again. I rescued it
from 5.25" diskettes that were unreadbale on my 5.25" floppy drive -
but I found an old XT in the *sand* under the house - it's been there
for 3 years - and it still works!! So I read the diskettes in and
transferred the files to the palmtop.

Thanks again. This is a GREAT LIST!!

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Your message about pottery recordings gives a new meaning to
MP3 - Master Pottery 3... :->

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        Theodore Heise wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Barry wrote:
>
> > What they're working on is a way to use computers to find and play
> > back any talk that was going on while the pottery was being made.
> > NPR says they expect to have results in from 5 or 10 years.
>
> And if they play it backwards it'll no doubt say, "Turn me on dead man."

Maybe they'll get it in Hebrew then...

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> "Corso, Tony" wrote:
>
> Shortly after the introduction of programs that made RAM look like
> physical disk( i.e. VDISK and their ilk), programs were introduced
> that made physical disk look like extended/expanded ram.

It was called Virtual Memory and was made possible by a hardware
feature of IBM mainframes called DAT--Dynamic Address Translation.
It fooled your program into thinking it had far more available memory
by keeping recently-referenced 'pages' in real memory and dormant
pages on disk until they were referenced.

I'm willing to bet that IBM copied it from somewhere else.  DEC perhaps?

The same concept was eventually rolled out as a Windows 3.1
feature for PCs with 80386 CPUs.  The 80386 had the microcomputer
equivalent of DAT.

This extra 'memory' did come at a price.
At the time, it was said that if it took "one second" to reference
data in real memory, it took "3-5 days" to get the same data from disk
for processing.  Thats why adding memory to your modern PC usually
results in better performance with operating systems that implement
Virtual Memory, for example Windows 3.1, 9x and NT.

Somewhere around here, I have a copy of "The Thing King" which
rather elegantly explains the whole process of implementing
Virtual Memory.

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>
> The EPOC machines have an excellent calculator program with a choice between
> desktop (with an onscreen till roll) and scientific modes. In fact the desktop
> and scientific are totally seperate calculators so you can copy and paste
> between them. There are also a couple of different third party calculators
> including a HP scientific calculator clone and a tiny onscreen calculator
> which can be "floated over" other applications. None of the present crop of
> EPOC computers have numeric keypads, but since they have touch sensitive
> screens and the calculators have onscreen buttons, I doubt if you can input
> numbers any faster into the HP calculator than on an EPOC machine. Since
> EPOC is a true multitasking OS, you can get at the calculator(s) regardless
> what other software is running.
>
>
Well, apparently you don't do very much keyboard inputting of numbers. I use
three fingers to enter numbers for Lotus and calculator on my 200lx and
there's no way a touch screen could match a 200lx for entering numbers (I
learned the hard way with a Newton 2000). Which is not to knock EPOC which
is fine modern OS. The keyboard on the Psion 5 series PDAs are better for
word processing but it's no match for entering numbers. To be honest, other
than for playing music while writing, read or calculating, multi-tasking is
not a high priority for me when using a handheld and the calculator comes up
instantly unless there's not enough memory left to open the app on a 200lx.

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> So, assuming there was a pottery making shop on the Via Delorosa,
> and the procession came by and the people working there commented on
> the event, we might have some eyewitness accounts.

Nah, they would have been closed for Good Friday....<g>

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I went to an Ophthalmologist some years ago who told me that reading in bad
light, watching TV at night or looking at small print does not hurt your
eyes. He made it sound like you could not hurt your eyes by looking at
anything (as long as you don't stare at the sun X( ).

I developed near-sightedness about 5 years ago but it pretty much runs in
the family. I'm not sure that I can attribute it to the use of computers (or
the LX)

So, is the current thinking among medical professionals that you CAN damage
your eyes by straining to see things or reading in bad light? Should people
be wary of staring at the little LX screen. Maybe Thaddeus should look into
an LX magnifying screen (a physical one as opposed to the virtual one D&A
produced). If so, I really wish the backlighting project had taken off.

Does anyone have a prototype back-lighted LX they would be willing to sell?








----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathalie Bugeaud" <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:49 PM
Subject: eyes - was Re: FLUFF i Love Avi


> > I am sure you are still enchanting even with the backwards
photo-receptors
> > in your retinas <g>. Steve Carder MD
>
> i have the highest respect for doctors and their timely warnings of the
> fragility of our carbonaceaus structures (changing the subject from
> 'enchanting love Avi' to non-fluff)
>
> one of the more intricate pieces are our eyes; once damaged they are hard
to
> repair; with the LX's LCD so small it is advisable to use magnifying specs
> when staring closely at small script for longer than 10 minutes.
>
> anyone else has been prescribed reading glasses in the last 5 years in
part
> due to use of the HPLX?
>
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Thanks for the reply.  You seem to have gotten closer than I did!  From
somewhere, I get the idea that the problem with the CRC error in the Accton
card is only apparent when using NetBUEI protocol.  As I'm primarily
interested in file transfers, maybe Al Kind's suggestion of an FTP server
will work better.

Ted

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> Hello,
>
>      This is a follow-up of my experiences with a EN2216-2 Ethernet
> PC Card and the HP 200LX.  The original Idea was to get on the
>

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Date:         Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:54:58 +0800
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Hi, I just acquired a HP200LX. On the inside cover, top right of screen is
written "Palmtop PC - 2 MB Ram/ DS". My question is do I need any special
software to run the double speed? If no such software, it reverts to normal
speed? What about main battery consumption and backup battery consumption-
do they get 50% off their normal lifespans because of double speeding?

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I don't think HP ever made a double speed 200lx. Is Thaddeus printing that
on the units they sell?

As far as your question goes, the battery consumption of a DS unit is
greater but not double. I think I've heard that it battery life is reduced
about 15%. I've used a regular and Ds unit and can't tell the difference.
every time I change batteries, I can't exactly remember the last time I
changed them. I ususally go about 2 weeks and use the LX anywhere from 30-60
minutes a day.

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> Hi, I just acquired a HP200LX. On the inside cover, top right of screen is
> written "Palmtop PC - 2 MB Ram/ DS". My question is do I need any special
> software to run the double speed? If no such software, it reverts to
normal
> speed? What about main battery consumption and backup battery consumption-
> do they get 50% off their normal lifespans because of double speeding?
>
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If you could send me your billing template I would be most appreciative

I Always like to admire anothers' work

Richard Soltes
rsoltes@airmail.net

The author of the soon to be best selling
"CHICKEN SOUP FOR THE CHICKEN"

There are two rules in life
1) Never tell everything you know

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Ted,

> Thanks for the reply.  You seem to have gotten closer than I did!  From
> somewhere, I get the idea that the problem with the CRC error in the =
Accton
> card is only apparent when using NetBUEI protocol.  As I'm primarily
> interested in file transfers, maybe Al Kind's suggestion of an FTP =
server
> will work better.

I don't know any of the CRC error. ACCTEST.EXE may result in an ID
checksum error, which might cause, but not necessarily, a problem
with the NETBEUI protocol. The idea error is a result that newer cards
have different address numbers which are unknown to ACCTEST.EXE.

For me the only reason to use NETBEUI is, if I like to setup a hp200lx
as a lan server. Don't switch the hp200lx OFF and ON (or sleep). This
will result in Ctrl-Alt-Del.

If I don't setup the hp200lx *_NOT_" as a lan server I use the IPX
protocol which offers OFF/ON feature. I haven't experienced any other
restriction.

All the other TCP/IP based applications (WWW/LX LXTCP, CUTCP) are
working fine with the new cards, even if ACCTEST shows ID Checksum
error.

I use networking a couple of hours a day, I can't live without that.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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I'm new to the list, though I have been carrying a 95LX since Dec'92,
I have picked up a 200 and have some questions I'ld like to get help on,
as I couldn't get manuals at the time.

1) In transferring my phone books:
I use the 8 line address  part of the PBK on the 95 extensively and the
Connectivity pack transfer program cuts it to ribbons when sending it to
the 200
as it has a separate notes field. Can this be re routed?

I also use a Palm and am looking for a painless way to transfer from my
95 phone book to palm, again with out losing  data.

2)RE EYES: The 95 sure is easier on my 48 yr. old eyes as my lens gets
stiffer and I lose accommodation  The 200's screen also seems to have a
need to be viewed from a narrower angle or I get double images/shadows

3)Compared to the 95 the 200 seems MUCH slower e.g. searching for phone
numbers in the phone book  Is this me or it?

4) is  there a source for manuals?

5)Is there a memory card that is compatible with the 95 and 200?
I need a quick review of the Memory card standards and requirements A
FAQ perhaps that I have missed.


Thanks
This is a good list
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Date:         Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:48:48 -0600
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Robert Kawaratani wrote:

> ... The keyboard on the Psion 5 series PDAs are better for
> word processing but it's no match for entering numbers. To be honest, other
> than for playing music while writing, read or calculating, multi-tasking is
> not a high priority for me when using a handheld and the calculator comes up
> instantly unless there's not enough memory left to open the app on a 200lx.

IMHO the keyboard on the Psion 5mx is like typing
on a rubber band.  Way too much flex.  And the screen
is not adjustable, fixed at one (mostly unusable) angle
for the (mostly unreadable) screen.  Great OS though.

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Date:         Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:49:38 +0000
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> > I'm not sure which poster you're calling to, there have been at least
> > three who posted about StarTac 7868W-200LX connectivity.  Stan was the
> > first, and was pretty clear nothing special was needed--it worked out
> > of the box.
>
> I've had to order a cable as all that is available in this area at
> present is the full Motorola synchronization software package for
> MS-Windows.  Of course the reps at AllTELL insist that the software is
> a must :O)  Once I get everything up and running, I'll report back to
> the list.

Actually, the full package is not bad as it allows you to backup the
phone data and/or enter the data on the desktop using a larger more
convenient keyboard and screen.  It was only $59.00, I think, and came
with the cable.  But you do NOT need it for data access/modeming on the
hp.  I guess we are lucky that Motorola did not design the phone/modem
as a Winmodem which would have required Win9x and left out the HP.
Let's hope they and others continue with that oversight!

With some shananigans, I was also able to move some data from the hp
phonebook over to Outlook over to the phone application and over to the
phone! (G)

> Sorry for the delay in reply... A medical emergency over the holiday
> kinda put a kink in things.

Hope all is okay.

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Date:         Fri, 29 Dec 2000 10:49:19 -0700
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Think of the market for clay reproductions! One could even embed a digital playback IC like talking cards. We can now have a trio of memorabilia, 1) a shroud 2) a piece of wood 3) a talking pot. I
left out tortillas, as that is more of a grocery store item.

Bob

Barry wrote:
>
> I heard a couple of years ago on NPR about a project underway at one
> of the California colleges to try to play back recordings made
> around the time of Christ, as well as other times.

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|Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
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I'm so near-sighted, age or no age, I just take my glasses off, and walla, just like a big screen monitor! With my glasses on, I figure the eye exercise is good if and when I can read the screen!

The thinking of the medical profession years ago was, "ripe for a heart attack?" -- be lazy and don't exert a muscle and you'll survive a few more years (preventive medicine, 1960's).

Bob

> anyone else has been prescribed reading glasses in the last 5 years in part
> due to use of the HPLX?

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|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
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> Hi, I just acquired a HP200LX. On the inside cover, top right of screen is
> written "Palmtop PC - 2 MB Ram/ DS". My question is do I need any special
> software to run the double speed? If no such software, it reverts to normal
> speed? What about main battery consumption and backup battery consumption-
> do they get 50% off their normal lifespans because of double speeding?

HP did make some DoubleSpeed palmtops for it's customers at one point
and it did require some drivers that they created. You battery is only
reduced by about 15-20% on average but you are able to finish tasks
much faster as well, so the difference is probably negligible.

It does not revert to normal speed if the drivers are not loaded. You
really need to get the drivers for it.

Cheers,
 Mack

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> VDISK Version 1.0 virtual disk G
> sector size adjusted
> Directory entries adjusted
> VDISK not installed - Extender Card
> switches do not match system memory size

> Maybe someone has come across this before.
> Any way of faking a "RAM disk" on the palmtop?
> I did try a "subst" and called the subbstituted
> drive the RAM disk in the setup for the
> software - it didnT seem to believe me<G>

I think the error message is saying that you aren't using the
correct switches.  VDisk did use extended or expanded memory but I
don't think it required it if you used the switches to tell it not
to.  That may be version dependant, too.  I think there was also a
version that came with some of the extender and expander cards and
it sounds like you might have one of those.

I think I'd look in Symtelnet for a ramdisk program.  There used to
be some pretty good PD and shareware ramdisks.  The one I used to
use was called Xpandisk.  It had an accompanying program, Xpandboss,
that would let you adjust the size of the ramdisk on the fly.  I
used it a lot over the years and never had any problems with it.  I
think it mainly worked in system memory.

It might be that there are enough differences in the Dos in the
200lx that nothing will work.  That won't surprise me.  Ramdisks
have to work intimately with Dos.  But if you try a bunch you
probably can find one that will work.  And there are a bunch around.

I just did a web search for Xpandisk and I found it and a bunch of
others at:
http://www.devinfo.com/archives/coast/msdos/ramdisk/
You might have a look at that.  It looks like a good site, too.

While doing that search I also found a PC Magazine article where the
author discusses the best utilities ever made for the PC and he said
he would have included Xpandisk if it was still usable under Win95.

Barry





If you don't have documentation for V

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> Shades of "Science Fiction Theater" (hah!
>  how many remember that TV show?).

I remember Science Fiction Theater.  It was one of the few shows my
whole family could agree on.  Wasn't it announced by Adolph Menjou?

I don't remember that particular show.  But I do remember that all
the shows were really about science and were serious and well
written attempts at good science fiction.  Some of the science would
probably seem funny today, though.

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> As an archaeologist with some knowledge
> of pottery manufacture, I'd say that they would
> have better luck trying to capture and amplify
> the original sound waves bouncing around in
> the air than playing a pot like a record. The
> "stylus" was as often a finger or a bunch of
> grass as it would have been something that
> would respond to the vibrations of sound waves.
> In addition, the amplitude of the background noise
> (the size of the clay grains and temper particles)
> is likely much greater than the amplitude of any
> sound wave.
>
> Oh well, it keeps some people off the streets.

I guess it's kind of the same with any recordings.  Some have better
better fidelity than others. :)

Is archeology your full time profession?  It must be fascinating.  I
guess knowing the details about how things work must be a big part
of it.

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> Shortly after the introduction of programs
> that made RAM look like physical disk
> ( i.e. VDISK and their ilk), programs were
> introduced that made physical disk look like
> extended/expanded ram.
>
> Does anyone know if any of these programs
> work on a 200lx so that  my PCMCIA memory
> cards might look like RAM to the system?

That's usually called virtual memory and it's an older technique
than that.  It was developed years before PC's existed.

I know there's a expanded memory driver for the 200lx but I've never
tried it and I don't know much about it.  But I'll be surprised if
it would work on a PCMCIA card.

There is a memory manager hardware in the 200lx that allows it to
access all the ram it has.  Without that an 80186 can only access a
total of 1 meg of ram and rom.  C: is ram and the cpu has to access
it, too.

So there is the ability to shift blocks of memory in and out of the
range that the cpu can access.  That's pretty similar to the way
expanded memory works and the expanded memory driver uses that to
make it look like expanded memory for programs that can use expanded
memory.

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> anyone else has been prescribed reading glasses in the last 5 years in part
> due to use of the HPLX?

Well, Dear French Temptress, I will not reveal my full age (G) but at
over 50+ (g), I am fortunate not to yet need reading glasses.  And I've
been using the HP for more than five years.

Now, the cellphone might cause cataracts! (g)

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> It is great fun getting this old software going again. I rescued it
> from 5.25" diskettes that were unreadbale on my 5.25" floppy drive -
> but I found an old XT in the *sand* under the house - it's been there
> for 3 years - and it still works!! So I read the diskettes in and
> transferred the files to the palmtop.

And what, pray tell, is this old software that has distracted the entire
list? (G)

My old gateway still has 5.25" floppy but the cmos keeps dying and I
never remember the hd drive configuration info to restart it!!!  I had
started a project to move 500 floppies to zip disks and had gotten
through about 200 of them.  With occasional read errors.  Now I've moved
those zip disks to CD-R!  Progress is getting old dos software safely
tucked away on modern media to use on "obsolete" hp200's!!! (G)

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>         Theodore Heise wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Barry wrote:
> >
> > > What they're working on is a way to use computers to find and play
> > > back any talk that was going on while the pottery was being made.
> > > NPR says they expect to have results in from 5 or 10 years.
> >
> > And if they play it backwards it'll no doubt say, "Turn me on dead man."
>
> Maybe they'll get it in Hebrew then...
>

Yeah but which is the backwards direction?

And on Chinese pottery - up and down? (G)

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> 1) In transferring my phone books:
> I use the 8 line address  part of the PBK on the 95 extensively and the
> Connectivity pack transfer program cuts it to ribbons when sending it to
> the 200
> as it has a separate notes field. Can this be re routed?

There was a file on cis which did a better job of moving fields between
the 95 and the 100/200.  I don't think it is available on the hp
sites???

Otherwise, manual cut/copy/paste to move the data back where it belongs.

> 2)RE EYES: The 95 sure is easier on my 48 yr. old eyes as my lens gets
> stiffer and I lose accommodation  The 200's screen also seems to have a
> need to be viewed from a narrower angle or I get double images/shadows

It does seem sometimes, that depending on angle of light, that the
characters actually do cast their own shadows on the underlying screen
element(s).  There are also individual variations in coloration, tints,
and clarity from what folks have noticed between units.  HP used
different lcd sources.  (and apparently finally fixed the angle of its
polarizing layer so that the screen on my neweest 200 can be read with
sunglasses on the horizontal - my older unit could only be viewed
vertically!!!)

> 3)Compared to the 95 the 200 seems MUCH slower e.g. searching for phone
> numbers in the phone book  Is this me or it?

I think the 95 kept the entire data in memory and not the 200???

> 4) is  there a source for manuals?

Try www.thaddeus.com

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Richard Soltes wrote:
...
5)Is there a memory card that is compatible with the 95 and 200?
I need a quick review of the Memory card standards and requirements A
FAQ perhaps that I have missed.
...

I am using a 5MB SunDisk SDP5-5 and an Epson-branded SunDisk-manufactured
10MB Flash card in my 95LX. I get some flashing of the screen (horizontal
dark lines) during card access, but otherwise  they work fine. They require
a driver in the 95LX, but should not in the 200LX (and work fine in a Win95
Toshiba portable I also have). The  SunDisk (SanDisk) models SDP5, SDPL5,
and SDP5A all should work in the 95LX. The IGM-brand card Scott Moore sells
does not work in the 95LX (at least, not in mine).

The SunDisk cards do seem to drain the batteries when the HP is off. This
phenomenon has been reported by others. I am still on my first set of
batteries with the flash card in my 95LX, so I cannot give you the complete
figures, but 2 hours of use and a week of off-state have reduced the voltage
from 3.0V to 2.7V. The solution would be to pop the card out when the
computer is not in use.

I have read that you can use old Maxtor flash cards in the 95LX, possibly
without drivers.

If you need the SunDisk drivers, I can e-mail them to you.

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Barry wrote:

>Is archeology your full time profession?  It must be fascinating.

Unfortunately, it's too hard to get grant money to keep up the field work,
so I make my living in computer programming (MS VC++ and VBScript). I
started out doing "games" for use in exhibits in the Field Museum of Natural
History in Chicago.

I am using my (recently acquired) 95LX so I can write up previous field work
while I ride the CTA El train to work.

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Sat, 30 Dec 2000 12:42:45 +1300 (NZST)

04h18m09s ago ...
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 19:24:36 +0000 (GMT), <fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net> =
wrote:

> And what, pray tell, is this old software that has distracted the =
entire
> list? (G)

Ahha, something I bought from Matrix Software, Michigan, back in 1988,
called "Blue*Star". Very good for plotting the positions of planets.
And I now have it totally fooled into thinking I have a printer on LPT1
and it prints to disk - I found VPRINT.COM at Simtel to do the disk
redirection. I used it on an old AT till about 1995 when the battery
leaked onto the motherboard :(

> My old gateway still has 5.25" floppy but the cmos keeps dying and I
> never remember the hd drive configuration info to restart it!!!

Oh you just need to experiment :) And watch out for battery acid :(

> I had
> started a project to move 500 floppies to zip disks and had gotten
> through about 200 of them.

Wowee, 500! But to tell the truth if I counted all mine I might get up
near that figure - if I could get them in one place and count them<G>

> With occasional read errors.  Now I've moved
> those zip disks to CD-R!  Progress is getting old dos software safely
> tucked away on modern media to use on "obsolete" hp200's!!! (G)

I'm rapidly filling up a 440 MB Sandisk :)

Tony
PS Fred I just read the Clintons are moving into a tony neigbourhood in
Washington. Hehe, tony!

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Why don't wee set up a national user's
meating, say at the next (CHI) spring KOMDEX
and trade software?

Everybody bring some olde DOS software.

yor pal al..........



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Has y'all seen the new and improved
TOSHIBA 2GB type II PCMCIA hard drive
to kome out next yeer?  Day after tomorrow?

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Folks,

A friend of mine is playing with my daughter's 100lx. He
want to get it to see a "Lexar" media 32 MB CompactFlash
card.

Is there any chance that he could get this to work?  He has
a TrgPro that he uses the card in and the 100lx won't be
usefull to him unless he can transfer info between the two
machines.

If this can't be done, that's life. If so does anyone want
to trade with my daughter? She "thinks" she'd like a
PalmIII. <large sigh>

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 11:15:03 +0800
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Hi, I reported a while back that I could not read my Kingston 16 MB CF on
the Hp100LX. But trying my luck I bought a SANDISK 32 MB CF card  It can be
read/write on the HP100LX as well as on the HP200LX!

If your friend's Lexar CF can't be read by the HP100LX, maybe, ask him to
try the Sandisk brand?

====
At 07:15 PM 12/29/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Folks,
>
>A friend of mine is playing with my daughter's 100lx. He
>want to get it to see a "Lexar" media 32 MB CompactFlash
>card.
>
>Is there any chance that he could get this to work?  He has
>a TrgPro that he uses the card in and the 100lx won't be
>usefull to him unless he can transfer info between the two
>machines.
>
>If this can't be done, that's life. If so does anyone want
>to trade with my daughter? She "thinks" she'd like a
>PalmIII. <large sigh>
>
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Ed, this unit is not bought from Thaddeus. I think maybe Mack is right. HP
make this double speed unit for AIA (American Int'l Assurance) as I also
see AIA logo printed above the 123 & pocket Quicken logos.


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At 10:23 AM 12/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't think HP ever made a double speed 200lx. Is Thaddeus printing that
>on the units they sell?

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hobchi wrote:

> Has y'all seen the new and improved
> TOSHIBA 2GB type II PCMCIA hard drive
> to kome out next yeer?  Day after tomorrow?

Will it run on the 200lx?????????  (He asked hopefully).

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Barry:
"Nathalie, maybe they'll be discussing the medical reprocussions of
what was about to happen to him."

he is supposed to have miraculously healed the sick with surgical precision;
i guess he asked for an anaesthesist?

In a Jumbo jet: "This is your Captain speaking. Is there an anaesthetist on
board?" In Economy class, an anaesthetist passenger kept quiet till there
was another call and he felt he had to come forward.
The Stewardess took him up to the First Class deck. A distinguished
passenger sat there and said "Are you an anaesthetist?"  "Yes". "Well, I am
a surgeon. Please adjust my light!"

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Hi,
        I am a total newby to this list with a pressing question - the
main reason I wanted a palmtop was to record/edit 'go'
(japanese/chinese board game) games. I have found an sgf file
viewer on the SUPER site but a websearch failed to find an
editing/recording program for use on the 100lx
Anybody know of one?

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Date:         Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:20:39 -0800
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Really, Excellant news. I've forwarded your email, thanks
much :)
Patrick

Kheehua Hung wrote:
>
> Hi, I reported a while back that I could not read my Kingston 16 MB CF on
> the Hp100LX. But trying my luck I bought a SANDISK 32 MB CF card  It can be
> read/write on the HP100LX as well as on the HP200LX!
>
> If your friend's Lexar CF can't be read by the HP100LX, maybe, ask him to
> try the Sandisk brand?
>
> ====
> At 07:15 PM 12/29/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >Folks,
> >
> >A friend of mine is playing with my daughter's 100lx. He
> >want to get it to see a "Lexar" media 32 MB CompactFlash
> >card.
> >
> >Is there any chance that he could get this to work?  He has
> >a TrgPro that he uses the card in and the 100lx won't be
> >usefull to him unless he can transfer info between the two
> >machines.
> >
> >If this can't be done, that's life. If so does anyone want
> >to trade with my daughter? She "thinks" she'd like a
> >PalmIII. <large sigh>
> >
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Al,

I have purchased a 20MEG flash card from Scott.  After approximately 6
months of use in my 200lx, it died.  I did try to rectify the problem and
was told to purchase another card for full price.  I bought a compact flash
card from another reputable vendor.  I am not one to complain... I thought
that it's death was one of those unfortunate circumstances in the life of
the 200lx.  After reading some of the discussion on this list, my oversight
might have been pre-mature.  Just an FYI.




>From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
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>Subject: Scott Moore and business on HPLX-L
>Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 12:35:39 -0500
>
>12/24/00 11:38 am EST
>
>Greetings & Happy Holidays again All:
>
>    It has always been my policy to allow FS posts to the HPLX-L. This
>    does not mean that I personally endorse anyone who advertises items
>    for sale/auction/trade. So far I feel that the HPLX community is
>    best served by allowing such posts. If it comes to my attention
>    that a member is purposefully defrauding other members, I will
>    revoke their privilages (but in truth this may be fairly hard to
>    prove without many people getting "burnt", before this would happen).
>
>    In the current case, it seems that the liability for the safe
>    shipment of the equipment is in question. I have made my personal
>    opinion known to Scott. Scott has taken some steps to clairify his
>    liability of shipment in future, thanks to input from the LIST. If
>    you don't approve of his business practices, don't purchase from
>    him.
>
>
>    Cheers...AJKind
>
>
>
>*
>* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
>* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**
>
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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 20:30:53 -700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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From:         Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
Subject:      Re: compactflash in a 100lx
MIME-Version: 1.0

Don't know about the Lexar Compact Flash, but I have best results on my 100
and 200LX with a Simple technology 48 MB compactflash.
As a matter of fact, I also do not have difficulties with my Pretec
Smartmedia Adapter for Fuji smart media cards for my camera.
I think it depends on your machine. Some of them are more sensitive as
others.
At 07:15 PM 12/29/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Folks,
>
>A friend of mine is playing with my daughter's 100lx. He
>want to get it to see a "Lexar" media 32 MB CompactFlash
>card.
>
>Is there any chance that he could get this to work?  He has
>a TrgPro that he uses the card in and the 100lx won't be
>usefull to him unless he can transfer info between the two
>machines.
>
>If this can't be done, that's life. If so does anyone want
>to trade with my daughter? She "thinks" she'd like a
>PalmIII. <large sigh>
>
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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:32:41 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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From:         Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
Subject:      Re: Double speed HP200LX
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At 10:54 PM 12/29/00 +0800, Kheehua wrote:
 >
 >Hi, I just acquired a HP200LX. On the inside cover, top right of screen is
 >written "Palmtop PC - 2 MB Ram/ DS". My question is do I need any special
 >software to run the double speed? If no such software, it reverts to normal

I have one too.  The DS for this stock model actually stands for
dual-speed, as the screen does not get scrambled if the driver is not
loaded.  The drivers are 2XPT.COM and SDPOWER.COM, latter presumably for
power management.

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:45:40 +0800
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Subject:      Re: eyes - was Re: FLUFF i Love Avi
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> one of the more intricate pieces are our eyes; once damaged they are =
hard to
> repair; with the LX's LCD so small it is advisable to use magnifying =
specs
> when staring closely at small script for longer than 10 minutes.
>
> anyone else has been prescribed reading glasses in the last 5 years in =
part
> due to use of the HPLX?

I have used my 200LX for 6 years now and I am a heavy user. My eye
sight has not changed at all. I am sure that there are different
theories about how/if our eyes are affected by reading small text etc...

Jorgen

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:45:42 +0800
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From:         Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: Double speed HP200LX
Comments: To: Kheehua <hungkh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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> Hi, I just acquired a HP200LX. On the inside cover, top right of screen =
is
> written "Palmtop PC - 2 MB Ram/ DS". My question is do I need any =
special
> software to run the double speed? If no such software, it reverts to =
normal
> speed? What about main battery consumption and backup battery consumptio=
n-
> do they get 50% off their normal lifespans because of double speeding?

The unit you have was done by HP and it has double speed- was a
customized project long time ago. The driver used was different from
the driver we use in the upgrades from Thaddeus. I can send you the
driver if you want. You should use the driver so the machine will work
properly. It will take some more power- but it's worth it.

Regards,

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:49:27 -0800
Reply-To:     hobchi@hotmail.com
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From:         hobchi <hobchi@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: New and improvd ultra goodie
Comments: To: KenLondon <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Don't know, but it should be on the TOSHIBA
site soon nuff.  but it's PCMCIA compat
and I'm using a similar 160MB kard so it sounds
good.  NB: It'll kost a koupla dollars thought.

--- KenLondon <KenLondon@BELD.NET> wrote:
> hobchi wrote:
>
> > Has y'all seen the new and improved
> > TOSHIBA 2GB type II PCMCIA hard drive
> > to kome out next yeer?  Day after tomorrow?
>
> Will it run on the 200lx?????????  (He asked
> hopefully).
>



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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 09:07:26 -0500
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: New and improvd ultra goodie

   >Has y'all seen the new and improved
   >TOSHIBA 2GB type II PCMCIA hard drive
   >to kome out next yeer?  Day after tomorrow?
Message-Id: <20001230140733.SGXZ29713.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@12.72.155.92>
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:07:38 +0000

I've seen mention of this at some digicam websites where they await news
of new storage alternatives almost as religiously as we do.  Unfortunately
it looked like the Toshiba drives were going to be way over the LX slot
power output (something like 400mA)... so the best alternative for the
moment still seems to be the 1gb IBM microdrive at $470 ... and even
then the max power needed is something like 250ma, tho Mack's confirmed
it can be done on AC or on fresh batteries (probably not for long).  Most
operations (ie read) probably require much less power, so there's hope).

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:26:38 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Lexar 32mb CF
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The question of this CF's compatibility with the LX came up some
months ago, and I believe another lister said that it didn't work for
him.  This is probably especially true of the "USB enabled" Lexar
CFs which apparently have radically different controllers built into
them.

- Longden

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 08:36:46 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
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I have a Lexar 32MB "4x" card, and it works OK in my LX. I also
have a 64MB "8X" card that I can try if someone wants to know.
Bryan


Longden Loo wrote:
>
> The question of this CF's compatibility with the LX came up some
> months ago, and I believe another lister said that it didn't work for
> him.  This is probably especially true of the "USB enabled" Lexar
> CFs which apparently have radically different controllers built into
> them.
>
> - Longden
>
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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 10:24:51 -0500
Reply-To:     scotts@tovax.com
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From:         Scott Schindler <scotts@TOVAX.COM>
Subject:      InfoSelect TSR Question
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I have been using InfoSelect on the LX via the System Manager (c:\is\is.exe
n|128) for years because I was never able to get the TSR working properly.
I am now revisiting the TSR because I want/need the DOS session available
along with IS.  I know there are other IS users out there and I was
wondering if you have already solved this problem.

The problem that is happening to me:
I load IS from autoexec.bat

c:
cd\is
swapis /n
is
cd\

When I invoke IS with alt-j the screen goes into 40 column mode and the
alt-j out corrupts the screen so I cannot see the System Manager, just
vertical lines.  ESC then takes me back to the Topcard.

Scott

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:34:24 +0100
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
Organization: OE9FWV
Subject:      Re: Accton network card
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hi Ted,

my card is on its (second) way to the Accton replacement service.
The first try to send it was in vain, it came back as "undeliverable"
from the dutch post office, although the address was correct.
Now I sent it to SMC in Munich, Germany. I wonder when I get the
new one. And if there is no ID Checksum error.
This ID Checksum error is not critical for some drivers, my card
worked without problems in the Novell network, it depends whether
the driver checks it or not.

My shipping and phone costs are soon going to exceed the price of
the network card.
PS: I tried to get a refurbished EN2216-1 card from
www.lanmarket.com, they sell them at a good price, but it seems to
be impossible to get them from Europe. Any idea?

Werner


on 29 Dec 2000, at  8:32, Ted Brown wrote about
"Re: Accton Network Card":

>
> Thanks for the reply.  You seem to have gotten closer than I did!
From
> somewhere, I get the idea that the problem with the CRC error in
the
> Accton card is only apparent when using NetBUEI protocol.  As I'm
> primarily interested in file transfers, maybe Al Kind's suggestion of
an
> FTP server will work better.
>
> Ted
>




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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 08:27:04 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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From:         Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
Subject:      PCMCIA Disks and Processors are Available.
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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(3) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.

They are in excellent Condition!
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $55.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


I also have  (3) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for
shipping and packaging.

Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you

can send payment to my address at:


Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks and other products  the very next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks and products  in bubble wrap and place them in a
thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.

If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

If you want  Insurance on your package it is .85 to 2.00. If you do not
buy
insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal
errors. Orders outside the USA may be more.  No Foreign Checks please!

The response over the last few months has been just great!  and the
people I have worked with have been just Awesome!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 11:41:01 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Hello


I sat thinking the other day about that the LX should have had
two interfaces to compact flash card.


Then I got an idea,shouldn't it be posssible to construct a
PCMCIA adapter with TWO comapct flash cards?

There are space for two CF:s in one PCMCIA adapter,but you will
ofcourse have to fold one CF in,just as you do with a battery.

If there is a frame in the middle of the PCMCIA card with a
interface to the CF you insert from the bottom,and the other
interface is located where it is in an ordinary PCMCIA adapter.


Then you could choose between this two CF:s from the LX,and perhaps one =
netcard and one memorycard?


I hope you understand what I mean.


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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 11:52:15 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Colin Cohen <ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Access to banking software
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Chris Lott asked about this:

Citibank has supported a DOS or Win access program for over 10
years. They told me last week that they would no longer support
this as they want their customers to move to web based sites. The
program was a discrete dial up connection which works on win95/98
and 2000 as well as DOS.

I am still able to use it, just no support and hence I suspect
they withdraw access soon.

Colin

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 12:01:21 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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From:         Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Petty Family wrote:

> I have purchased a 20MEG flash card from Scott.  After approximately 6
> months of use in my 200lx, it died.  I did try to rectify the problem and
> was told to purchase another card for full price.  I bought a compact flash
> card from another reputable vendor.

You bought another  card...did it work?  I got the impression from past posts
on this list that these cards were good for millions of writes.  Am I correct
on that assumption?  Was the problem with the card, the drivers, or the 200lx
itself?

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 12:12:58 -0500
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              Ken London <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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Subject:      Re: New and improvd ultra goodie
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Longden Loo wrote:

> so the best alternative for the
> moment still seems to be the 1gb IBM microdrive at $470

Wasn't the final conclusion that this drive would not work on the 200lx because it
drew too much power????????????????

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 10:10:29 -0800
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Subject:      Re: New and improvd ultra goodie
Comments: To: KenLondon <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
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I know nothing about the Toshiba drive that your spelling-hobbled pal al
writes about, but I can tell you that the IBM Microdrive 1GB works on the
Palmtop. It draws a lot of current and requires the adapter. Even then,
occasionally it will not get sufficient juice. But I have used it for
extended periods. Mack was kind enough to provide me with a usable driver
to test the device.

I agree with Mack that it is workable, but so far has not left the realm of
testing, i.e. don't rely on this in any way shape or form.

At 12/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
>hobchi wrote:
>
> > Has y'all seen the new and improved
> > TOSHIBA 2GB type II PCMCIA hard drive
> > to kome out next yeer?  Day after tomorrow?
>
>Will it run on the 200lx?????????  (He asked hopefully).
>
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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 11:52:16 -0800
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              Patrick west <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
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I can see his card fine in my 200lx.  Are you using a 200lx
or 100lx?

Bryan Biggers wrote:
>
> I have a Lexar 32MB "4x" card, and it works OK in my LX. I also
> have a 64MB "8X" card that I can try if someone wants to know.
> Bryan
>
> Longden Loo wrote:
> >
> > The question of this CF's compatibility with the LX came up some
> > months ago, and I believe another lister said that it didn't work for
> > him.  This is probably especially true of the "USB enabled" Lexar
> > CFs which apparently have radically different controllers built into
> > them.
> >
> > - Longden
> >
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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:21:06 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM>
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Subject:      Re: eyes - was Re: FLUFF i Love Avi
Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>

> one of the more intricate pieces are our eyes; once damaged they are hard
to
> repair; with the LX's LCD so small it is advisable to use magnifying specs
> when staring closely at small script for longer than 10 minutes.
>
> anyone else has been prescribed reading glasses in the last 5 years in
part
> due to use of the HPLX?

Because I am a diabetic, I go to an optomologist (spelling?) once a year, to
have a real eye exam done, much more thorough that seeing an optometrist.
The last time I went, I was finding that late in the evening, I would have a
hard time seeing my laptop, or palmtop screen, because it would start to get
blurry.  When my doctor said my eyes checked out fine, I actually was
bummed.  I know that sound stupid, but I thought, well I am now 41, and
eventually I will most likely need reading glasses soon, but my doctor said
I didn't.

When I asked well how come sometimes, not always, late at night the screen
gets blurry.  His reply was that my eyes were just tired, and that I needed
to give them a rest.  What an answer!  So far I do not need reading glasses,
but I have noticed that staring at the full 80 column wide 123 spreadsheet
is getting more difficult, and because I use 123 to track my blood sugar
logs, and calculate the amount of insulin I need to inject, I like the 80
column wide mode.  I know it is easier to read displaying less text, but
until I can't see it anymore, I will continue to use 80 column wide mode.

What I really find I would like the most is a backlit screen.  More times
than not lately, since winter set it, and it gets darker earlier, I find
that when out and about, reading the LX screen in poorly lit conditions
sucks!  I hope someday when we all find the LX replacement, it has a backlit
screen, no matter how many batteries it goes through.  The older we get, the
more we need light on something to see it properly.  I remember not to long
ago never having this problem.  Getting old is wonderful, isn't it?

Best Regards,

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:28:22 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM>
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Subject:      Re: eyes - was Re: FLUFF i Love Avi
Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET

> Now, the cellphone might cause cataracts! (g)

I thought that was brain tumors!

Best Regards,

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:33:37 -0500
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM>
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> > I have purchased a 20MEG flash card from Scott.  After approximately 6
> > months of use in my 200lx, it died.  I did try to rectify the problem
and
> > was told to purchase another card for full price.  I bought a compact
flash
> > card from another reputable vendor.

What did you do with you no-working card?  Did you try to get it working in
a laptop?  If not, would you like help trying?  Let me know.  I am not
saying that they don't go bad, but maybe this one is not bad, just needs
reformatting in a different machine than the LX.  Worth a try, if you
haven't.

Best Regards,

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:54:20 -0600
Reply-To:     Chris Lott <rclott@ro.com>
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From:         Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
Subject:      FLASH Disk Longevity
In-Reply-To:  <3A4E14E1.9F546D69@beld.net> from "Ken London" at Dec 30,
              2000 12:01:21 PM
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> > re: FLASH disk... After approximately 6
> > months of use in my 200lx, it died.
>
> You bought another  card...did it work?  I got the impression from past posts
> on this list that these cards were good for millions of writes.  Am I correct
> on that assumption?  Was the problem with the card, the drivers, or the 200lx
> itself?

I am currious about this topic myself.  I just recently lost my 160MB
Simple Tech FLASH disk a couple of months ago.  I bit the bullet and
replaced it with a SanDisk 440MB.  I have been led to believe by numerous
sources that these are more durable and reliable than ST and others.

My ST 160 was used as my main FLASH disk in my palmtop for about 4 years
or so.  I have no way of knowing how many access were made, and to what
extent, if any, the ST onboard FLASH controller handles wear levelling.
I would be curious to learn more details, especially about how my new
modern SanDisk handles this detail.   Is it to be expected to lose a
FLASH disk about every 4 years?

Being engineers, we did dismantle the ST FLASH disk at my office.  We
knew that PCMCIA designers have limited height to work with, and expected
to find all the ICs in very thin packages.  Were astounded to see that
the internals were actually a card STACK containing a main board, with
FLASH controller, RAM buffer, resonator, and an amount of FLASH chips.
The daughter card, nearly the full size of the main card, contains entirely
FLASH chips.  Both cards have components on both sides!  As circuit board
designers ourselves, we have built PC cards as thin as 1/32 of an inch,
0.032 - but these cards were 0.014 inches thick!  The whole think was
an excellent example of miniaturization, and we were quite impressed
with the packaging.  Even after I dismantled it, I put it back together
and powered it up on my laptop computer to check for one last file I
was after, and it worked just fine!

Sorry to ramble on...

-Chris Lott

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Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc.
3112 12th Ave S.W.                                   PHONE: 256-534-9067
Huntsville, Alabama 35805                              FAX: 256-534-9069
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"Thanks


--
Richard Soltes
rsoltes@airmail.net

The author of the soon to be best selling
"CHICKEN SOUP FOR THE CHICKEN"

There are two rules in life
1) Never tell everything you know

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Hi,

For those of you tracking satellites on your Palmtop here is the
announcement for the Y2K bug fix for InstantTrack.  Once you have this
loaded you can subscribe to the weekly KEPS updates via the keps mailing
list.  Follow the links below.

Happy New Year!

-Ian

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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 20:10:41 -0600
From: Ray Hoad <rhoad@metronet.com>
To: AMSAT KEP address <keps@AMSAT.Org>
Subject: keps InstantTrack 1.5 Available

For those who have been waiting for the Y2K problem in InstantTrack to
be fixed, the new Y2K compatible InstantTrack Ver 1.5 is now available
on the AMSAT-NA web page at www.amsat.org.
----
Via the keps mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA.
To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe keps" to Majordomo@amsat.org
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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:41:35 -0600
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              Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
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Hi Ian,
   You might mention that this isn't freeware, and that a
donation to AMSAT is required. I bought the 1.00 version years
ago, and there does not appear to be an upgrade policy for me,
and I'm not going to buy it again, however worthy AMSAT may be.
Bryan


Ian Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> For those of you tracking satellites on your Palmtop here is the
> announcement for the Y2K bug fix for InstantTrack.  Once you have this
> loaded you can subscribe to the weekly KEPS updates via the keps mailing
> list.  Follow the links below.
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> -Ian
>
> -

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:46:33 -0600
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              2000 04:41:35 PM
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> donation to AMSAT is required. I bought the 1.00 version years
> ago, and there does not appear to be an upgrade policy for me,

I just visited the site, and wasn't there an upgrade option at a
reduced fee?  Maybe your version is too old to qualify?

I have about three such programs on my palmtop already, and just
don't have a need to any more.

-Chris

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Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc.
3112 12th Ave S.W.                                   PHONE: 256-534-9067
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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 17:49:40 -0500
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<SNIP>

>ago never having this problem.  Getting old is wonderful, isn't it?
>
>Best Regards,
>

I've always thought it beat the alternative <g>!!!

Brian

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 23:13:26 +0000
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 16:18:37 -0600, Evan Person wrote:

>Mack has a Prius???  Cool!  How are they different
>from the Honda version, Insight I think it's called?
>I was going to go look at one last summer when
>the gas prices went over $2.00 a gallon in Chicago,
>but a friend said the dealers were sold out and didn't
>even have any on display.  Then I never followed up
>on it.  I've seen a few on the road (the Honda, not the
>Toyota).  How are they on heat in the winter?

I have to put in a word about petrol prices here. How you guys in the US
can complain about $2 a gallon is beyond me. Most of Europe is paying
around $8 a gallon - now *that* is outrageous!

--=20
Neil Tungate <http://www.skipper.org.uk>
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              LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: New and improvd ultra goodie
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The only postings about limited early impressions of actual use
have come from Avi and Mack (that I recall).

The lack of continued comment seems to bear out that it's
probably not a solid item for the 200LX (maybe unless you're
always on AC or your batteries are always fresh?).

While peak power usage was described as 250ma, the usage
during reads was considerable lower (something like 70ma ... but I
forget), making the microdrive a possible candidate as a portable
reference storage device.

If I ever get one (for my Omnibook and Canon S10 camera), I'll post
any stories .... happy or sad.

- Longden

> > so the best alternative for the
> > moment still seems to be the 1gb IBM microdrive at $470
>
> Wasn't the final conclusion that this drive would not work on the
> 200lx because it drew too much power????????????????

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 18:27:47 -0600
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette <mack@times2tech.com>
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I have been able to use it on the couple of palmtops that I tried it
on, but for some reason writes are EXTREMELY SSSSLLLOOOOWWWWWW.

It does work consistently for me in terms of reading from it just
fine. I am sure for writes that we are at least at the edge of the
power supply of the palmtop as well as at the lower end of the
requirements for writes for the card.

I haven't tested the driver extensively since it is in beta and data
is so precious to us all that I find very few takers to do the
testing. It is the same driver that was developed for use with the
large Sandisk cards and should also work on the 100LX for other ATA
cards that are currently not recognized by that unit.

It is a special driver in that it also combines some of the features
of LXCIC in that it will enable Ethernet and Modem cards. If you are
running TREMM then it will also load most of the code up into an EMM
page and only take up about 1k of lower memory.

If you load the driver as a device in CONFIG.SYS it will give you a
new drive letter to use for the ATA card and if you load it in your
AUTOEXEC.BAT file then it will take over the A: drive letter of the
ATA card.

Cheers,
 Mack

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 17:27:22 -0700
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              "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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I've added more items to my web page. One item that may be of interest
is a Kodak Diconix 150 Plus parallel printer. Price too high? Consider
that it is like now with some extras! Anyway, it is at the BOTTOM of the
web page. The rest, well...

Anyone want to trade for some LX stuff?

http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/
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I accidently dropped my 200LX yesterday.  Slipped from my coat pocket to the
pavement,  when I opened it to check for damage, the screen was cracked.  I was
VERY upset and a little surprised - my older unit had taken falls a half dozen
times and never broke - I killed that one last summer by letting a spray bottle
of all purpose cleaner leak into it.   It still powers up, but the ON key and
several others no longer work so it is unuseable.

So I was down to zero palmtops - what to do?  I looked at David Sargeant's
hplx.net hardware page:

http://www.hplx.net/hardware.apa.big.html

In reading through the page and looking at the pictures, I decided I could take
the screen and top case from my old unit and transplant it to my new one with
the broken screen - about 3 hours later I fired up my  LX and was relieved to
see it power up and working fine now.

The toughest part was getting the battery case cylinder part of the hinge
loose, but the directions explained it clearly - I just have very fat fingers
and was afraid I would break the case.


Thanks David for having this info - I had looked at it before, but never
considered trying to take my LX apart.  I got up the nerve when I had nothing
to lose.

The directions were GREAT  the pictures helped a lot too.


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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:15:20 -0500
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              Domingo Diaz-V <dvm123@GMX.CO.UK>
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Hmm  .  .  .  did you try invoking IS from a DOS prompt or DOS program?
It will not from Sysmgr or from exm programs.

Domingo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Schindler" <scotts@TOVAX.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 10:24 AM
Subject: InfoSelect TSR Question


> I have been using InfoSelect on the LX via the System Manager
(c:\is\is.exe
> n|128) for years because I was never able to get the TSR working properly.
> I am now revisiting the TSR because I want/need the DOS session available
> along with IS.  I know there are other IS users out there and I was
> wondering if you have already solved this problem.
>
> The problem that is happening to me:
> I load IS from autoexec.bat
>
> c:
> cd\is
> swapis /n
> is
> cd\
>
> When I invoke IS with alt-j the screen goes into 40 column mode and the
> alt-j out corrupts the screen so I cannot see the System Manager, just
> vertical lines.  ESC then takes me back to the Topcard.
>
> Scott
>
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> one of the more intricate pieces are our
> eyes; once damaged they are hard to
> repair; with the LX's LCD so small it is
> advisable to use magnifying specs when
> staring closely at small script for longer
> than 10 minutes.

I'd always heard that eyestrain was damaging to our eyes but my
opthimologist insists that it isn't.  It's effects are temporary.
He says it's because the muscles that control the eye are tired, and
that's all it is.

It's uncomfortable and it's good to avoid it, but it seem's there's
no risk involved.

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> Now it just complains that I don't have the
> printer turned on<G> and it is usable!! I
> might try and use one of those utilities that
> captures LPT1 output and puts it in a file.

I've used prn2file, which does what you describe, on the 95lx, 100lx
and 200lx and it works just fine.

Barry

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> What they're working on is a way to use
> computers to find and play back any talk
> that was going on while the pottery was
> being made.  NPR says they expect to have
> results in from 5 or 10 years.

Latest update:  They just played back a pot that is thought to have
belonged to Nero.  It had Elvis singing 3 songs, including one that
was previously unknown:  "Don't be cruel cause you ain't nothing but
a tomcat".  There was a fiddle playing and the crackling sounds of
burning wood in the background.

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> It was called Virtual Memory and was
> made possible by a hardware feature
> of IBM mainframes called DAT--Dynamic
> Address Translation.  It fooled your
> program into thinking it had far more
> available memory by keeping recently-
>referenced 'pages' in real memory and
> dormant pages on disk until they were
> referenced.
>
> I'm willing to bet that IBM copied it from
> somewhere else.  DEC perhaps?

The first virtual memory system was made by RCA, who sold their
computer division to Univac.  But RCA sold it first.

In my first programming job I worked for the guy who had been the
project leader of the team that wrote that OS for RCA.  His name was
Joe Lucas.  I'm not sure when this happened but trying to connect
things I do know I'd guess that it was in the early 60's.  I went to
work for him in 68.  He left RCA when Univac bought them in, I
think, 66 and the virtual system had been selling for a while at
that point.

Barry




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At the risk of incurring the wrath of all the
retro-vegan-nordic-franco-atheist sentimentalists here I just want to wish
you all a Happy New Year! :)

Avi Meshar

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:49:05 -0600
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              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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> The SunDisk cards do seem to drain the
> batteries when the HP is off.

I used a Epson labeled SunDisk SDP10 in my 100lx and now in the
200lx I keep next to the computer to keep phone numbers and
passwords.  My battery consumption seems to be the same with it,
without it, or with a newer card.  I can't tell any difference.

The 200lx it's in get's very little use so it's off most of the time
and you'd expect it to be noticable if the card drew power when the
machine was off.  I use Nicads in it and I change them every 2 or 3
weeks.  When I was using it daily I changed them every week,
although they would go 2 weeks when I forgot.  But not any longer.
Now when I forget they go about 3.5 weeks.

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 19:46:31 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Fluff HP Problems
Comments: To: neil@skipper.org.uk
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>I have to put in a word about petrol prices here. How you guys in the US
>can complain about $2 a gallon is beyond me. Most of Europe is paying
>around $8 a gallon - now *that* is outrageous!

Probably it is outrageous. It is also possible that the reason we complain
about the $2/gal is not so much the actual price but that we have to put
into cars sooo much gas (petrol to you.)  It is undoubtedly not astounding
to you that the distances travelled in the USA by car (automobile to you UK
people <G>...) are much much greater than in the UK or other places in Europe.

In the early 80s I lived in Israel. Just prior to going to Israel, my
commute to work was about 60-80 km EACH way. In Israel the commute was 41km
(Jerusalem, where I resided, to the IBM Tower in Tel Aviv.)  I thought it
was a breeze. Many people in Israel looked at me wide-eyed when they
realized the distance I was covering each day.

So maybe that is the issue: We keep putting money into these dumb
contraptions, then burn it in an internal combustion container which also
produces some lethal gases (which adds indirectly to the price we pay for
gas.)  And I think the griping maybe reflects the dumbness of this situation.

Happy New Year

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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:44:24 +0800
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Hi, my 200LX seems to have some unresponsive keys like "Q", "left arrow",
"full stop" and a few others.  I need to press them harder Wonder if I can
spray WD40 or some such thing on the keys to improve contact?

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Date:         Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:12:51 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 11:52:16 -0800, Patrick west <francis_patrick_west@YAH=
OO.COM> wrote:

> I can see his card fine in my 200lx.  Are you using a 200lx
> or 100lx?


Sounds like he might need to install the acecard driver.


HTH

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David, et al

I need to echo Mike's comments. I was able to merge two
broken 100lx units into one working one. Great pages.


Mike Melancon wrote:
>
> So I was down to zero palmtops - what to do?  I looked at David Sargeant's
> hplx.net hardware page:
>
> http://www.hplx.net/hardware.apa.big.html
>
> Thanks David for having this info - I had looked at it before, but never
> considered trying to take my LX apart.  I got up the nerve when I had nothing
> to lose.
>
> The directions were GREAT  the pictures helped a lot too.
>
> Mike
>
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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 07:36:16 +0100
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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yor pal al..wrote:
>Why don't wee set up a national user's meating, say at the next (CHI)
>spring KOMDEX and trade software?

will you help with my air-fare to have my meat there?

>Everybody bring some olde DOS software.

"oldeDOS" is tiny - why can't you zip it and attach it to e-mail?
....or is there a reason for having lots of "meat" in one place?

The three main activities during a meeting:
1. sound like you know everything
2. stay awake
3. try to determine why you are there

If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has not
achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word would be
"meetings."


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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 00:27:59 MST
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              curtis j brown <mrbrown8@JUNO.COM>
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Sorry to bother everyone. I'm trying to write a program using Turbo C
v2.0. In this program, I am using function calls supplied by a .H file
and a corresponding .OBJ file. When I try to compile my program inside
TC, I keep getting "Linker Error: Undefined symbol". I have assured that
the entries under Options/Directories are correct; everything is
installed under one directory. I have tried to use TLINK manually, but I
don't understand the command line setup. I'm not good at programming in
general. I can maybe explain better offline if need be. Thank you in
advance for everyone's time.

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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 16:12:50 +0800
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              "R.S." <rogerswn@I-CABLE.COM>
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I saw one in a computer shop in Hong Kong, so I do some search and found it
at:
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/00/05/12/000512hntoshiba.xml
then I found the spec at the Japanese web site:
http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/tdirect/options/mehdd20a_j.htm
I can't read Japanese, but seems that the power required is too high for
200LX :o(
"(3.3V?)?????:0.5W?R/W:1.3W"
I guess it says the currect requrired for standby @ 3.3V is 0.5W and 1.3W
during read/write.

Roger
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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: New and improvd ultra goodie


> hobchi wrote:
>
> > Has y'all seen the new and improved
> > TOSHIBA 2GB type II PCMCIA hard drive
> > to kome out next yeer?  Day after tomorrow?
>
> Will it run on the 200lx?????????  (He asked hopefully).
>
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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 03:16:56 -0500
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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   >I have been able to use it on the couple of palmtops that I tried it
   >on, but for some reason writes are EXTREMELY SSSSLLLOOOOWWWWWW.
   >It does work consistently for me in terms of reading from it just
   >fine. I am sure for writes that we are at least at the edge of the
   >power supply of the palmtop as well as at the lower end of the
   >requirements for writes for the card.
Message-Id: <20001231081704.YSYQ29713.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@12.72.155.151>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 08:17:09 +0000

Sounds like the writes may be slow due to retries needed. Too bad there's
no way to boost the power. Like jury-rig a power connection to a lithium
button cell in the CF adapter to augment the juice.

Is the write slowness evident for AC and batteries?  And for batteries,
does NiMH vs alkaline vs lithium make any difference? Each has a differewnt
nominal voltage and I wondered if a higher voltage might fare better.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 08:39:17 -0000
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              Petty Family <hap_py@HOTMAIL.COM>
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I did try it in both a laptop and my wife's LX.  I could immediately
format/read/write to the card.  After ejecting it (loss of power) it lost
it's formatting.


>From: Robert Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,              Robert
>Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: Scott Moore and business on HPLX-L
>Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:33:37 -0500
>
> > > I have purchased a 20MEG flash card from Scott.  After approximately 6
> > > months of use in my 200lx, it died.  I did try to rectify the problem
>and
> > > was told to purchase another card for full price.  I bought a compact
>flash
> > > card from another reputable vendor.
>
>What did you do with you no-working card?  Did you try to get it working in
>a laptop?  If not, would you like help trying?  Let me know.  I am not
>saying that they don't go bad, but maybe this one is not bad, just needs
>reformatting in a different machine than the LX.  Worth a try, if you
>haven't.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Robert Hocking
>
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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 08:55:39 -0000
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              Petty Family <hap_py@HOTMAIL.COM>
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I was under the misinterpretation that this was a "user" forum.  It it
obvious the forum does not have the rating/tracking abilites (such as ebay).
In defense of Scott (playing advocate), I am sure he has some good feedback.
  Which brings me to my point... having an LX user sell something should be
allowed... the Vendors have another above mentioned forum (ebay).

Enjoying the forum and the Season...


>From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Vendor Comments on HPLX-L
>Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:44:34 -0500
>
>Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:19:44 -0500 (EST)
>
>Again Season's Greetings All:
>
>   Please do not Speculate on another member's business practices or
>   reputation. If you have had personal experience, good or bad, that is
>   one thing, speculation is quite unappropriate!
>
>   I believe Scott has noe made his shipping policy clear, so any
>   more comment by others than his customers is uncalled for.
>
>   Vendors handle things differently, it is not fair to malign one
>   vendor for not having the same standards as yours...speak with your
>   wallet, if you don't like the deal, don't strike it.
>
>   I would suggest if you feel strongly enough, write Scott personally,
>   but please keep unsubstantiated comments off this LIST!
>
>   Cheers...AJKind
>
>*
>* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
>* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**
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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 08:15:44 -0500
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:48:48 -0600, Evan Person wrote:

> Robert Kawaratani wrote:
>
> > ... The keyboard on the Psion 5 series PDAs are better for
> > word processing but it's no match for entering numbers. To be honest, other
> > than for playing music while writing, read or calculating, multi-tasking is
> > not a high priority for me when using a handheld and the calculator comes up
> > instantly unless there's not enough memory left to open the app on a 200lx.
>
> IMHO the keyboard on the Psion 5mx is like typing
> on a rubber band.

I agree.

>  Way too much flex.

My Father has a 5MX. It is great for him, but I did not like the
keyboard. I had to hit the keys straight down to make them work. I like
the Hplxkeyboard better..but thats me.

>  And the screen
> is not adjustable, fixed at one (mostly unusable) angle
> for the (mostly unreadable) screen.

Yes I could not hold the 5Mx as I hold the Hplx. I usually write with
my thumbs, but I can not hold and do the same with a 5Mx. You need to
place it on a table to use it.

>  Great OS though.

Yes it looked okey.

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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 07:30:53 -0600
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              Bryan Biggers <bbiggers@CHARTER.NET>
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Did you have to wait for a lightening storm for the final step?
The townspeople are gathering torches and heading up to the
castle... you know what happened the last time someone tried
this... Its just not natural.
Bryan


Patrick west wrote:
>
> David, et al
>
> I need to echo Mike's comments. I was able to merge two
> broken 100lx units into one working one. Great pages.
>
> Mike Melancon wrote:
> >
> > So I was down to zero palmtops - what to do?  I looked at David Sargeant's
> > hplx.net hardware page:
> >
> > http://www.hplx.net/hardware.apa.big.html
> >
> > Thanks David for having this info - I had looked at it before, but never
> > considered trying to take my LX apart.  I got up the nerve when I had nothing
> > to lose.
> >
> > The directions were GREAT  the pictures helped a lot too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 08:47:33 -0500
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              Lars Hedstroem <nxw988e@TNINET.SE>
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Avi wrote:


> At the risk of incurring the wrath of all the
> retro-vegan-nordic-franco-atheist sentimentalists here I just want to =
wish
> you all a Happy New Year! :)


I wish you the same Avi,and ofcourse everydody else on this
list.



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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 10:33:28 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Unresponsive keys

Kheehua writes:
> Hi, my 200LX seems to have some unresponsive keys like "Q", "left arrow",
> "full stop" and a few others.  I need to press them harder Wonder if I can
> spray WD40 or some such thing on the keys to improve contact?

Small particles (corn meal is a big offender) will sometimes find their
way under the plastic keys and the switches beneath them, leading to the
behavior you're seeing.  One remedy is to take off the keyboard overlay
(it's just glued on) and use compressed air to blow out the particles.
You may need to gently lift each key while directing the air under it.
In a pinch I've simply blown them out using my breath, but try to keep
it as dry as I can.

The template can be taken off by lifting a corner with a thin blade (for
example a couple mm to the right of the ON key) and carefuly peeling it
away.

Ted

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Date:         Sun, 31 Dec 2000 09:59:38 -0600
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A Meshar wrote:

> Probably it is outrageous. It is also possible that the reason we complain
> about the $2/gal is not so much the actual price but that we have to put
> into cars sooo much gas (petrol to you.)  It is undoubtedly not astounding
> to you that the distances travelled in the USA by car (automobile to you UK
> people <G>...) are much much greater than in the UK or other places in Europe.
>
> In the early 80s I lived in Israel. Just prior to going to Israel, my
> commute to work was about 60-80 km EACH way. In Israel the commute was 41km
> (Jerusalem, where I resided, to the IBM Tower in Tel Aviv.)  I thought it
> was a breeze. Many people in Israel looked at me wide-eyed when they
> realized the distance I was covering each day.
>
> So maybe that is the issue: We keep putting money into these dumb
> contraptions, then burn it in an internal combustion container which also
> produces some lethal gases (which adds indirectly to the price we pay for
> gas.)  And I think the griping maybe reflects the dumbness of this situation.

Therein lies the problem.  I'm aware of the price of petrol
in Europe.  Several years ago I rented a car in London to
travel to Cardiff, Wales to see my sister-in-law.  I forget
how much the fuel cost but it was a lot of money compared
to what I would have spent for a similar trip in the U.S.

But consider the following situation I had just a few days
ago on Christmas Day.  We had a family gathering at my
sister's place.  It was a 5 hour round trip, which we did in
one day.  The problem is, I had no choice but to drive.
And given the heavy snow situation this winter I took the
gas-guzzling V8 4-wheel-drive.  And by U.S. standards
she lives not that far away, even in the same state I live in.

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> I am a total newby to this list with a pressing
> question - the main reason I wanted a palmtop
> was to record/edit 'go' (japanese/chinese
> board game) games. I have found an sgf file
> viewer on the SUPER site but a websearch
> failed to find an editing/recording program for
> use on the 100lx Anybody know of one?

Earlier versions of David Fotland's "Many Faces of Go" were Dos
programs.  I don't remember the version number I used to have (it
got lost during a move) but I think it did work on the 100lx that I
used back then.  I can't be sure.  I tried so many programs that I
really didn't have room to keep.  But I'm fairly sure that was one
of the successful ones.  I do know it has a CGA mode.

It also can be used for recording and playing back Go games.  I'm
not sure about editing them but I think that's just text so any
editor could be used.

I'm not sure if there is a Dos version of his latest one.  I know
there is a Windows version.  But the earlier one shouldn't be that
hard to find.  I've seen it at used software stores a few times.  If
you contact David Fotland he might be willing to sell an older
version if he has one.  A link to email him is on his site, or was
the last time I looked.

If nothing else works, I might have a copy on some archive
somewhere.  But try to find it on your own first.  Finding a copy
among my hundreds of 5.25 floppies won't be easy.

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> I have purchased a 20MEG flash card from
> Scott.  After approximately 6 months of use
> in my 200lx, it died.  I did try to rectify the
> problem and was told to purchase another
> card for full price.  I bought a compact flash
> card from another reputable vendor.  I am not
> one to complain... I thought that it's death was
> one of those unfortunate circumstances in the
> life of the 200lx.  After reading some of the
> discussion on this list, my oversight might have
> been pre-mature.  Just an FYI.

I don't think the vendor could be considered responsible for a used
card that only lasted 6 months.  Sure, we hope used things will last
longer, but we take that chance.  That's why the price is reduced.

I don't think I'd ask a vendor of used merchandise to take
responsibilty for it after 6 months unless there was some specific
agreement about that at purchase.

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>>>>>>>>>My ST 160 was used as my main FLASH disk in my palmtop for
about 4 years or so.  I have no way of knowing how many access were
made, and to what extent, if any, the ST onboard FLASH controller
handles wear levelling.  I would be curious to learn more details,
especially about how my new modern SanDisk handles this detail.   Is
it to be expected to lose a FLASH disk about every 4 years?<<<<<<<<

I can't go to the Sandisk site right now.  I'm downloading.  But I
think the last time I was there they said their flash was good for 4
million writes and that the average person wouldn't wear one out in
a lifetime.  They also gave an example of a program that ran 24/7
and regularly wrote to the card every few seconds and could be
expected to last 10 (I think) years.

I'm not sure how accurately I remember this.  But it's all on the
Sandisk site.

As to wear leveling, I run wear.exe on my old 10 meg card (which was
heavily used for about 4 years and lightly used since) once a year
and so far each time it's told me that the card doesn't need wear
leveling.  So that might be a trivial part of the card's wear.

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>>>>>What I really find I would like the most is a backlit screen.
More times than not lately, since winter set it, and it gets darker
earlier, I find that when out and about, reading the LX screen in
poorly lit conditions sucks!  I hope someday when we all find the LX
replacement, it has a backlit screen, no matter how many batteries
it goes through.  The older we get, the more we need light on
something to see it properly.  I remember not to long ago never
having this problem.  Getting old is wonderful, isn't it?<<<<<<<

I have to agree about the backlight.  That is the single most
important improvement that could be made to the lx.  I think it
would add years to the popularity of the 200lx.

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Le Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:58:05 -0800
Gary Jacek <gary-jacek@HOME.COM> a =E9crit:

> It was called Virtual Memory and was made possible by a hardware
> feature of IBM mainframes called DAT--Dynamic Address Translation.
> It fooled your program into thinking it had far more available memory
> by keeping recently-referenced 'pages' in real memory and dormant
> pages on disk until they were referenced.

Talking about these kind of hardware mechanisms to get more memory, do
someone has yet the XIP specifications/informations for the HPLX ?

For those who don't know about XIP (eXecute In Place) , this is a
mechanism installed in the HP95LX (I don't remember if it was in HP100
or HP200, but I think), permitting to execute code directly on a card
without to load it in memory.

For the HPx00. This kind of feature is used for execute Command.com (the
program appearing is only a loader, the rest of the code is somewere
else in the ROM)=20

I am working on a project where something like that would be interesting...


Jacques.
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Le Sat, 30 Dec 2000 18:27:47 -0600
Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM> a =E9crit:

> It is the same driver that was developed for use with the
> large Sandisk cards=20

Mack,=20

About drivers needed for large Sandisk cards, can you tell me :

- For which cards and from which capacity a driver is needed ?
- I am working (Wait! I am only at the first steps of it <g>) to
  implement full Long File Names support on the palmtop. Do you know if
  this driver could support transparently the low level access needed
  for that support ?

Jacques.
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curtis j brown wrote:

> Sorry to bother everyone. I'm trying to write a program using Turbo C
> v2.0. In this program, I am using function calls supplied by a .H file
> and a corresponding .OBJ file. When I try to compile my program inside
> TC, I keep getting "Linker Error: Undefined symbol". I have assured that
> the entries under Options/Directories are correct; everything is
> installed under one directory. I have tried to use TLINK manually, but I
> don't understand the command line setup. I'm not good at programming in
> general. I can maybe explain better offline if need be. Thank you in
> advance for everyone's time.

Try something like this at the command line.

tcc -ms main.obj sub.obj

where "-ms" selects the small model, "main.obj" is the object file for your
main routine, and sub.obj is the object file for your subroutine.

If you want to do everything inside the TC integrated environment
you have to set up a project file (e.g. xxx.prj) for a program with
multiple source files.

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> Sounds like the writes may be slow due to retries needed. Too bad there's
> no way to boost the power. Like jury-rig a power connection to a lithium
> button cell in the CF adapter to augment the juice.

It could be a retry at some hardware level, but I doubt it is retrying
at the DOS level as I don't get Retry Errors.

> Is the write slowness evident for AC and batteries?  And for batteries,
> does NiMH vs alkaline vs lithium make any difference? Each has a differewnt
> nominal voltage and I wondered if a higher voltage might fare better.

I tested it mostly on AC power. If you try it on batteries they must
be fully charged and I only used NiMh 1650's.

Cheers,
 Mack

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> - For which cards and from which capacity a driver is needed ?

440MB Sandisk and above.

> - I am working (Wait! I am only at the first steps of it <g>) to
>   implement full Long File Names support on the palmtop. Do you know if
>   this driver could support transparently the low level access needed
>   for that support ?

It is just a low level device driver in DOS. I am not sure what to
tell you otherwise.

Cheers,
 Mack

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After a decade with my 100LX, I finally caved in this year and bought a
Palm Vx (not getting rid of the 100LX yet though). I'd much rather convert
my calendar and phonebook files to the Palm OS than hand enter everything,
but I'm not sure how to do it. People tell me it's not a problem importing
those files if I can convert my 100LX files to comma-delimited or
tab-delimited value files. Does anyone know how to do this?

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----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Tucker, M.D. <dtucker@ITSA.UCSF.EDU>
> those files if I can convert my 100LX files to comma-delimited or
> tab-delimited value files. Does anyone know how to do this?

If you have the connectivity pack, the Translate/Merge function allows you
to transform appt, notes, todos, phone book  into a cdf (comma delimited
file.

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Avi,

As always I wish you all the best!! Have a happy new year or should it
be new millennium? <grin>

WEB

A Meshar wrote:
>
> At the risk of incurring the wrath of all the
> retro-vegan-nordic-franco-atheist sentimentalists here I just want to wish
> you all a Happy New Year! :)
>
> Avi Meshar
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On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 10:29:22 -0600 Evan Person <eperson@MEDIAONE.NET>
writes:
> Try something like this at the command line.
>
> tcc -ms main.obj sub.obj

Thanks Evan. That got me going.

> If you want to do everything inside the TC integrated environment
> you have to set up a project file (e.g. xxx.prj) for a program with
> multiple source files.

I'll look into that. Thanks

--
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> I am a total newby to this list with a pressing question - the
> main reason I wanted a palmtop was to record/edit 'go'
> (japanese/chinese board game) games. I have found an sgf file
> viewer on the SUPER site but a websearch failed to find an
> editing/recording program for use on the 100lx

Not exactly.  I have a simple *.sgf viewer, but it doesn't show comments =
or
variations.  It also does not allow editing.  I suspect that it is the =
same one
you have.

I also have a copy of The Many Faces of Go program version 9 for DOS on =
my
palmtop.  I have the plain version, but the "deluxe" version allows =
editing of
Ishi format files (*.go).  I have version 10 of MFoG on my desktop, since =
it is
Windows only.  Version 10 will convert between *.sgf and *.go files.  So, =
you
might be able to use version 10 to convert the files to *.go format.  =
Then move
them to your palmtop.  Now edit them with version 9 at your leisure.  =
Finally
move them back to your desktop and convert back to *.sgf.  I haven't =
actually
done this personally, so you might check with the author of MFoG, David
Fotland, at http://pw1.netcom.com/~fotland/index.html

Finally, the *.sgf format isn't too complex.  With a little practice you =
could
probably add comments with a text editor like the built-in Memo.  To do =
this, I
would make 2 copies of the game you want to comment.  Open Memo and load =
one
copy of the game.  Now use the *.sgf viewer to view the other copy of the =
game.
 As you look through the game, jump to Memo and add comments manually in =
the
correct location.  I don't know enough about how *.sgf files do variations=
 to
know if this would be possible with Memo.

If you find a more elegant solution, please let me know.

Steve Carder
start viewing the game

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> When I asked well how come sometimes, not always, late at night the =
screen
> gets blurry.  His reply was that my eyes were just tired, and that I =
needed
> to give them a rest.  What an answer!

There is a set of muscles used to focus the lens of the eye.  When these
muscles are completely relaxed, the lens is focused for distance vision =
(ie
distances over about 20 ft and/or 6 m).  As you contract these muscles =
more and
more, the eye focuses closer and closer.  So, by the end of the day you =
can
wear these muscles out and be less able to focus close.  So, "rest" means
looking at something 20 ft or more away, or just closing them.

Although you don't need them, reading glasses could help.  With reading
glasses, you don't have to contract the focusing muscles as much to see =
up
close.  So wearing the all day for close work will keep those muscles =
from
working as hard.  Thus, they will be better able to work all day.

This is a bit like asking if I can climb stairs.  I can do stairs just =
fine,
but if I do stairs continuously all day, I will be worn out by evening.  =
So, by
then I won't be walking very well.  If I do something like use an elevator=
 part
of the time during the day, I will be better rested for stairs at the end =
of
the day.

So, just as you don't NEED reading glasses, I don't NEED an elevator.  In =
both
cases, however, it might be a nice way to avoid overwork and fatigue.  If =
you
do try this, get an inexpensive pair of weak reading glasses at someplace =
like
Walmart to experiment with.  You can't actually damage your eyes with =
glasses,
although you can fatigue your eyes faster with the wrong sort of glasses.

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> I have to put in a word about petrol prices here. How you guys in the =
US
> can complain about $2 a gallon is beyond me. Most of Europe is paying
> around $8 a gallon - now *that* is outrageous!

But, you people in Europe can drive accross an entire country on one tank =
of
gas.  Last month I drove 250 mi (400 km) one way to visit my in-laws and =
didn't
even leave my state.  Driving from New York to Los Angeles is farther =
then
driving from Lisbon to Moscow.

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> but I'm not sure how to do it. People tell me it's not a problem =
importing
> those files if I can convert my 100LX files to comma-delimited or
> tab-delimited value files. Does anyone know how to do this?

You can do this with the Smart Clip feature of the 100LX PhoneBook.  Set =
up a
smart clip with each field of your phone book surrounded by commas.  You =
might
want to make a test version using just a handful of phonebook entries to =
be
sure you have the format right.

Once you have it set up correctly, have the Phonebook print to a file =
using
that smart clip.  This will give you your comma deliminated version of =
your
100LX phonebook.

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curtis j brown wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 10:29:22 -0600 Evan Person <eperson@MEDIAONE.NET>
> writes:
> > Try something like this at the command line.
> >
> > tcc -ms main.obj sub.obj
>
> Thanks Evan. That got me going.
>
> > If you want to do everything inside the TC integrated environment
> > you have to set up a project file (e.g. xxx.prj) for a program with
> > multiple source files.
>
> I'll look into that. Thanks

A couple more things.  Type

tcc

at the command line to get a screenful of help information,
including the switches available for the "tcc" command.

Here would be a sample "main.prj" file:

main (main.h)
sub (main.h)

where you have two source files, main.c and sub.c, and one ".h"
file that both the ".c" files are dependent on called main.h.

Here is a more complicated example, gzip.prj, which I
have used to compile the GNU Zip utility for DOS.

gzip.c       (gzip.h tailor.h crypt.h revision.h lzw.h)
zip.c        (gzip.h tailor.h crypt.h)
deflate.c    (gzip.h tailor.h)
trees.c      (gzip.h tailor.h)
bits.c       (gzip.h tailor.h crypt.h)
unzip.c      (gzip.h tailor.h crypt.h)
inflate.c    (gzip.h tailor.h)
util.c       (gzip.h tailor.h crypt.h)
crypt.c      (gzip.h tailor.h crypt.h)
lzw.c        (gzip.h tailor.h)
unlzw.c      (gzip.h tailor.h lzw.h)
unpack.c     (gzip.h tailor.h)
unlzh.c      (gzip.h tailor.h)
tailor.c     (gzip.h tailor.h)
getopt.c     (getopt.h)

That should get you well underway.  I have found Turbo C 2.0
to be a great tool for compiling DOS command line programs
(usually utilities I write to do relatively simple things) for the
200LX.

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I read Nathalie's post with a big grin. I used to promote this
as the definitive definition of a meeting:
..Where the minutes are kept of the hours that are lost.

On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 07:36:16 +0100, Nathalie Bugeaud  wrote:

>If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human=
 race
>has not
>achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word
>would be
>"meetings."

Bob

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I use Intelilink to Lotus Org. & Schedule+ then Intelisync to the Palm.

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WEB wrote:

>
> As always I wish you all the best!! Have a happy new year or should it
> be new millennium? <grin>


Oh no! Not this discussion this year also:)


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Hi,

How about uploading it to the SUPER site?

(I am interested in TT-LX, if you would be so kind...)

br

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Does anyone know of a DOS or Win 3.1 version of Quicken that will allow one
to use more than one currency for investment accounts? For example,
transfering $1000US from account A to account B ($CAN) and have the
conversion done automatically.

 Thanks!


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Bruce Landeck used to have a dos program that could that.
Whey not wander over to his webpages
<http://www.spitfiresoftware.com/> and see what he still has
for DOS.

Eric Greenspoon wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a DOS or Win 3.1 version of Quicken that will allow one
> to use more than one currency for investment accounts? For example,
> transfering $1000US from account A to account B ($CAN) and have the
> conversion done automatically.
>
>  Thanks!
>
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On 31 Dec 2000, at 14:38, Steve Carder wrote: And also thx to a reply from Barry

> > I am a total newby to this list with a pressing question - the
> > main reason I wanted a palmtop was to record/edit 'go'
> > (japanese/chinese board game) games. I have found an sgf file
> > viewer on the SUPER site but a websearch failed to find an
> > editing/recording program for use on the 100lx
>
> Not exactly.  I have a simple *.sgf viewer, but it doesn't show
> comments or variations.  It also does not allow editing.  I suspect
> that it is the same one you have.

the one I picked up from the super site is written by Goh Yong Ming

> I also have a copy of The Many Faces of Go program version 9 for DOS

snipped

not really looking for a playing program - they are all pretty weak
still (tried Fungoe2000? best I have played so far). I have an old
version of David Fotland's Cosmos (dos program) that records
games in a very easy to read format but has no comment or
variation capability. I have been resisting the need to get a full
program eg Many Faces of Go, thinking more along the lines of
getting a dos version of a client program if I have to.

Leaves me with some more questions (I warned you guys I was a
newby);
1. how to access dos on the 100lx?
2. best to get a serial cable to connect to PC or the connectivity
pack?

I also see a lot of talk here of memory cards (mostly for 200lx), and
wondered what people recommended for the 100lx.

thanks again,
Ed

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At 12/31/00 -0500, WE Blankenship wrote:
>Avi,
>
>As always I wish you all the best!! Have a happy new year or should it
>be new millennium? <grin>

I am and olde programmer (nay, and aulde programmer <g>...) I count from 0
(that's a zero) and so I celebrated the millenium last year --- Now, let's
start a re"religious" war over _that_ - probably more fun than about
holiday greetings <g> ...

I have an issue to raise about this millenium thing anyway. I read
somewhere that in 1531 or so the then Pope (Cinnaid-Nathalie, hush now,
dear!) took out 11 days and some hours out of the calendar. So the real
millenium was already too early. There are other idiosyncracies with the
calendar as we use it. So it is highly inaccurate to do that millenial
count from the birth of the child (I do not want to mention the name so as
to not wake up the Nordic Troll <g>) of that woman.  And on it goes.

Happy New Year all of yo in the Dec 31 2000 timezone! <g>








>WEB
>
>A Meshar wrote:
> >
> > At the risk of incurring the wrath of all the
> > retro-vegan-nordic-franco-atheist sentimentalists here I just want to wish
> > you all a Happy New Year! :)
> >
> > Avi Meshar
> >
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>Last month I drove 250 mi (400 km) one way to visit my in-laws and didn't
>even leave my state.

Yeah, but about another 10 miles or so and you would have been in Illinois.

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After setting up the entire LXTCP suite with PNR to prove that I could
get out to the net on my LX, I returned to my WWWLX problem.

I did a complete reinstall of the entire WWWLX, POSTLX, ROBONews suite
and finally got this setup to work just in time for the 21st Century.

Here is the solution I arrived at...

After rebooting, I run

op2216.exe
pd2212.com -n 0x66 5

Then I run the following from the D&A FTP site

dhcp.exe

This is new, and likely what corrected the problem.

DHCP.exe creates a bat file that I run next

ip-up.bat

My Win98 Internet Sharing PC with SHAW@HOME only provides
the following in ip-up.bat

SET MYIP=192.168.0.2
SET REMIP=192.168.0.1

As I said before, I then set up WWWLX again.

My WWW.CFG contains: (note there are no entries for My_IP or Remote_IP)

Global

Setup=Ethernet

Setup

Ethernet=Ethernet to Shaw Wave

Ethernet
Ether=1
Port=2
OmniGo=0
PPP=1
Modem=0
Baud=57600
My_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS_IP=24.69.48.13
DNS2_IP=24.69.48.14
Script=CHAP_Script
Login=my-userid
ModemInit=AT&F
Dial=ATDT0000000
Password=!@#$%

In preparation for setting up POSTLX and ROBOTLX,
I used Ping on my Win98 machine to get the
dotted-decimal addresses for the SNTP (News),
POP and SMTP (Mail) servers.

I then entered these into the setup programs,
to avoid what looks like a failed DNS lookup
from the palmtop.

Strangely, when HV is run under WWWLX, it has
no trouble doing DNS lookups.

Hopefully, this summary will help others get their Accton EN2216-1 cards
up and running.

Happy New Year everyone!



Gary Jacek wrote:
>
> I have a Windows98 PC with two 10BaseT NICs and
> Internet Sharing enabled.  This PC is connected to
> a Shaw@Home cable modem.  The 200LX+EN2216-1 Ethernet
> card is connected to the Windows98 PC via a 10BaseT
> crossover cable to the second NIC.
>
> With this configuration, I have successfully downloaded
> mail and news using LXMTA, so I know the hardware is
> functioning.
>
> When I run the following command
>
> www.exe -d -q -@1 Ethernet
>
> I get the Welcome to HV screen.
>
> When I attempt to follow the link to the D&A Software
> home page, I get the message
>
> Opening Ethernet Connection
>
> followed by
>
> ARP request for 24.64.200.209 failed.
>
> and a panel
> "Could not send request / Could not establish Ethernet connection".
>
> The static address of the Windows98 PC is 24.64.200.209.
>
> Any advice on what I have missed here?
> Is there a workaround for this problem?
>
> (www.cfg follows)
>

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Sorry for this non-LX post, but occasionally one comes across a=
 piece of
software that is just too good to keep quiet about. Although I am=
 not a
Windows fan (like almost everyone else I have a desktop PC=
 running Win9x),
here is a Windows based program that is just great. All it does=
 is print
graph paper, hundreds of variations are possible and the laser=
 output is
astounding. It's free and well worth the trip across the Net to:

http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?71988:1703675

Have Fun.
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Happy New Year!!!


Hello, is the Barbie Pen easy to use. I don4t really understand how it
works. Which drivers does it need? Is it better than using a small mouse
(for example the "teenie mouse" that somebody else mentioned)? i might give
it a try if you think it is better than a mouse for palmtop use.

Thanks;

Inigo

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Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Happy New Year


> I have an issue to raise about this millenium thing anyway. I read
> somewhere that in 1531 or so the then Pope (Cinnaid-Nathalie, hush now,
> dear!) took out 11 days and some hours out of the calendar. So the real
> millenium was already too early. There are other idiosyncracies with the
> calendar as we use it. So it is highly inaccurate to do that millenial
> count from the birth of the child (I do not want to mention the name so as
> to not wake up the Nordic Troll <g>) of that woman.  And on it goes.

I don't usually meddle with far-out fluff, but just a little clarification.
The change of the calendar took place because the calendar was not
keeping up with the seasons and the sun.  As a result of that and other
changes, the current calendar is only off by minutes or perhaps hours.
I understand the current system will be significantly out of wack with the
seasons in a few hundred years, so the question is how to keep our palmtops
running that long.  :-)

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