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For auction Hewlett Packard (HP) HP 100LX 200LX AC DC charger

http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/auction/35011844

This item is used but in working condition,
A genuine HP part.

My HP 200 LX was lost (or stolen) while on a vacation.

Please view my auction.

http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/auction/35011844



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Date:         Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:19:20 -0700
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It's true.

The absurdity of stuff that we have to document to protect people from
themselves these days. People actually stare at their computers for long
periods of time, overriding their blink reflex.

dmp24@juno.com
david_m_peterson@hp.com

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:39:19 -0400 Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET>
writes:
> This item is from WCVB TV Channel 5s Website:
>
>
> DAILY JOKE:  Good Advice
> An actual tip from page 16 of the HP "Environmental, Health & Safety
> Handbook for Employees:
> "Blink your eyelids periodically to lubricate your eyes."
>
>

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 00:54:17 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Nationwide local dialup ISP that still offers Shell access?

Hi Ted,

>> First of all, your ISP charges a monthly fee for telnet access to a
shell
>> account on their server, but there are many servers on the internet
that
>> already offer telnet accessible UNIX shell access, free of charge.
>
>Actually my ISP charges for the connection--the shell account is a
>bonus (not used by most).

Hmmm... so do I understand correctly that your ISP offers a UNIX shell
account for no additional cost?  If so, does it also offer local dialup
access across the nation?  That's what I'm looking for. :-)

>> Secondly, for the ability to telnet to a remote ISP for shell access
>> while on the road with my HP200LX, I would first have to find a local
>> connection to the internet where ever I am on the road, that allows
DOS
>> access.  That's what I don't have and still need because I can't
justify
>> the cost of paying a second access fee per month.
>
>Here's where I think we're not connecting.  I don't know what you
>mean by "DOS access."  In my case I can use a modem with my 200LX
>to connect to any dialup that provides standard PPP, and then use
>LXTELNET to connect to any of my Unix shell accounts.  What can you
>do with a direct connection (using DataComm or some other terminal
>package, I assume?) to your Unix account that you can't do with a
>telnet connection?

Ahh... now I understand your question.  Sorry for being so dense. ;-)

The quality of a telnet connection is determined by the ever changing
conditions on the internet.  When I used to use telnet a lot I contended
with a lot of broken connections and delayed response.  Since the local
commands must be sent to the remote server for processing in real time
over the telnet connection and the remote server's screen must also
continuously be echoed back to the local screen over that telnet
connection, significant delays in the transport of packets or dropped
connections can make it rather difficult and trying to work with.

With a direct terminal connection over ordinary phone lines to a UNIX
shell, there are virtually no connection delays to contend with.  That
way I can experience the delays due to the UNIX server's inevitably heavy
load, in real time. <grin> ;-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:40:31 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Acctualy I have gotten loged in to my bank via hp200lx and my Unix
account using Lynx with SSL.
Lynx can be patched to use that.

Larry Tachna wrote:
> >>As I sit here and type this note using Pine on a UNIX system, having =
just
> >>finished surfing the web for about an hour using Lynx, I regret to =
tell
...
> I am not disagreeing with that I am saying that most of the web site =
have
> the flashy pictures and music 3d and whatever. can you access your =
stock
> portfolio or bank account from that unix command prompt?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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hello,

The latest version of dawn has been released. It is version 4.5 final.
This program converts adressbooks between numerous Email programs and
can also be used to produce comma separated adressfiles for post/lx
from these books- (this makes my post on-topic)

check it out at:
http://zakharin.freeyellow.com/Software/Dawn.html

73!
Werner
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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:14:55 +1200
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My 3rd latch has blown too! The latch is one piece of plastic
that has a torsion bar setup on each side to be the spring -
eventually the plastic bars just break off and its dead!

I am using a piece of white rubber interior door sealer to do
the springing now. The door sealer is a long extrusion with a
"d" (or "p") cross section and has a sticky back (long side) to
keep it in place.

To take the Latch out - pull off the glued on surround to the
screen (the frame of the screen with "Palmtop" etc written on,
then undo the 4 Torx #6 screws to open the two sections of the
lid that sandwich in the screen  (leave the hinge corner
connected)

Cheers
John

Bryan Biggers wrote:
>
> Sorry if this is a FAQ. My latch will no longer latch, it has lost its
> "spring". What can I do repair it? Was there a spring in there that has
> died? Should I jam a rubber band in there to make it spring out better?
> Can I take it apart, if so how?
> Thanks Bryan
>
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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:50:54 -0500
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> Hmmm... so do I understand correctly that your ISP offers a UNIX
> shell account for no additional cost?  If so, does it also offer
> local dialup access across the nation?  That's what I'm looking
> for. :-)

Yes and no.  Sorry.  :(


> Ahh... now I understand your question.  Sorry for being so
> dense. ;-)

I think it was at least equally my doing.


> With a direct terminal connection over ordinary phone lines to a
> UNIX shell, there are virtually no connection delays to contend
> with.  That way I can experience the delays due to the UNIX
> server's inevitably heavy load, in real time. <grin> ;-)

I get it!  <the rest of HPLX-L says FINALLY!>

I know exactly what you mean, and agree delays can be frustrating.
My account with netINS <located in Iowa> began in 1994 when they
first offered local dialup (with a VMS shell) in my hometown of
Omaha, Nebraska.  Shortly after that, they replaced the VMS with
Unix.  A year or two later they discontinued the local dialup.
I chose to maintain my account with a $5/month telnet account.
(mainly for continuity in my e-mail address/online identity)

I've used this means of access now for four or five years, the
last three from Indiana.  There are times when the delays are bad,
but probably 98 or 99% of the time there is no perceptible lag.
(I use a Megahertz 14.4 PCMCIA modem.)  My understanding is that
netINS is pretty well connected to the internet, so delays are
usually due to heavy server load, or internet congestion local
to me.  The server load is usually not a problem, as they have
done a pretty good job of expanding capacity with growth.

At any rate, for $5/month it might be worth trying it for a bit.
The person I've dealt with for most of my account issues is Wendy
Battles <wendyb@netINS.net>, she is very nice.  You could also
call 800-546-6587 (800-5HOOKUP) or e-mail info@netINS.net.

Thanks for taking the time to explain things to me, John.

Ted

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I already do this.
But SMS are expensive here. I would like to send a SMS when I go online
with my ISP as I do that quite often.

Hans Peter Staber wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to send SMS via email.
> > I sometimes would like my emails to turn up as SMS on someones phone.
>
> Try ROBOT/LX together with SMS.ZIP from DASoft. You compose SMS as
> e-mail within POST/LX.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:10:20 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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> There's XFS (X-Finder Server) for X-Finder.  It's a small DOS program
> that runs on your desktop/laptop to allow fast file transfer.  With
> cable connection, the real transfer speed is about 6K bytes per second.
> (actually a little faster).  The palmtop acts as the client - the big
> machine as server.  The interface is exactly the same as the local XF
> file manager.  All functions work as usual (copy, move, del etc).
>
> The older version of XFS is on SUPER, and there's a later one in beta
> that can use IR as well as cable.
>
Yes, XFS is one of the best parts of X-Finder. I have used XFS successfully
(in a DOS box) under WinNT 4.0, Win98 and Win95.

I would have to say that the version on SUPER is substantially faster than
6KB/sec., but I haven't really timed it. Be warned that the later beta
version at http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/index.htm appears to be
quite a bit slower even over a serial cable.

Does anyone know when X-Finder r.11b9 will be out of beta? I'm currently
running it on my 100LX "testbed" and I am anxious to put it on my 200LX
main machine!

Bruce in Toronto

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> Macs since 1984. for years all went well, using the Mac serial port and
> Maclink Plus for my backups and file transfers. Now I have a new Mac
> Powerbook 2000 laptop that doesn't have the old style serial ports.
snip
> 1) Get the right adaptor and hope my version of Maclink Plus will work
> with Mac OS9
> 2) Get the right software to take advantage of the IRDA port that the
> Mac has
> 3) Use the PC card slot on the Mac to read the PCMCIA card from the HP
> 200 LX
> I tried the last one by just plugging an old card that I could afford to
> destroy into the Mac. As a result the Mac crashed. No damage was done,
> but no success.
>
I have the same connectivity problem with my blue and white G3. I keep an
old Centris 650 for this reason.

I would imagine that swapping a PC Card woud be the most elegant solution.
I can't think why you would have crashed doing this -- it should work. I
suggest you re-check your PC Card setup on your PB.

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Date:         Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:51:53 +1000
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              Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
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If you want one to use in Australia there is smsmebaby.com (sorry
can't remember if it had www in front), which is also going under the
name of blueskyfrog.com. I used it a few months ago. You can do email
to SMS, or SMS to email. Its a bit cludgy but it worked. Its free -
sort of. You get so many points to start with, then to keep your
points up enough so the service can continue you do a silly thinly
disguised marketing survey on their web site. It wasn't too painful.
I did find their SMS weather reports handy though.

Now that there is a way to use Post/lx for SMS I haven't used it for a
while. Thankyou those who made this possible ! It didn't take to much
fiddling to get it working for me. For those who use other email
programs on their LX an email to SMS service can be handy.

Paul Johnson.

Russell Hemery wrote:
> At 10:43 PM 7/30/00 +0200, you wrote:
> >Does anyone know if it is possible to send SMS via email.
> >I sometimes would like my emails to turn up as SMS on someones phone.
>
> Hi
>
> I dont know if it has email capabilities but this site is ok outside
> Australia..  The Aussie phone companies disallow outside sending..  :((
>
>  MTN - Internet Short Message Service (SMS) TEXT ONLY
>        MTN SMS Messaging to cellular phones almost anywhere in the world!
> TEXT ONLY
>        BROWSER PAGE - NO IMAGES, NO CLIENT-SIDE JAVASCRIPT This is the
> Official
>        text only version of the MTN Online SMS Message Service Network List
> Last Updated:
>        Send Message to GSM
>        http://www.mtn.co.za/regulars/sms/text.html
>
> BTW  You may need to register with MTN first.. Its free service tho
>
> Hope this is of benefit to some.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:30:24 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM
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Subject:      SyncTalk and the HP200LX
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HPLX'ers,
First, let me apologize to the HPLX-L List for the possible WASTE of
bandwidth, but I cannot let this drop!!!

Mr. Crimm,

As a user of the HPLX Palmtop since approximately 1993, I would like to
clarify several misconceptions that you appear to have concerning the
HP200lx Palmtop and implore your company to reconsider your decision not to
support this platform. I will be addressing the underlined (highlighted in
red) text from the replies to Domingo Diaz-Vazquez noted below.

1) The HP200lx is NOT a closed platform or a phone platform!!! Your
response corrects the Phone
portion but further misstates the closed platform issue.

2) The HP200lx is a DOS 5.0 based 80186 palmtop COMPUTER with hard serial
port and serial IR ports built in. It does not use Windows CE in any form.
Using IR.EXE by Andreas Garzotto I can communicate (slightly) with Palm
Pilot. I believe that most if not all HPlx users (and that numbers in at
least the 10's of thousands around the world) would like to have the
capability to transfer files between the 200lx and other popular platforms.

3) "I am well aware of the HP200LX" This does not appear to be the case.

In conclusion, I would urge you to at least entertain the possibility of
supporting the 200lx as the customer base on this platform is very well
established as well as extremely knowledgeable on both the hardware and
software available for the 200lx.

May I also refer you to Hal Goldstein of Thaddeus Computing,Inc.,
hal@thaddeus.com,515-472-6330 and
Avi Meshar of D&A Software at info@dasoft.com, 310-388-5400 for more information on the 200lx and
the customer base it provides.

respectfully

Joe Buford
Hughes Space and Communications
joseph.buford@hsc.com
310-416-9319


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Domingo,

Thanks for your interest in SyncTalk.  We currently support the leading
PDA
and smart phone operating systems, but not 1)closed platform phones like
the
HP200LX.  We will be shipping SyncTalk for several smart phone platforms
later this year.
<snip>

Joel L. Crimm
Marketing Manager
SoDeog Technologies
(O) 704.542.2440 x133
(fx) 704.542.1887
(m) 803.322.5569
www.SyncTalk.com
 -----Original Message-----
From:   dd diaz mailto:ddvteach@juno.com
Sent:   Friday, July 14, 2000 7:42 PM
To:     Information
Subject:        SyncTalk and the HP200LX

Hi.  There are many of us HP200LX users that would love the
ability to share files and information with other devices,
in particular the Palm, via IR.  Could you consider
supporting this device with SyncTalk?  I am sure that the
large HP200LX community would make it worth your while
financially to provide this service, in view of the great
need to comunicate with more recent devices.

Regards,

Domingo Diaz-Vazquez

From:    D Dv <ddvteach@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Synctalk + HP200LX: here is a good laugh
<snip>
My response:  I GIVE UP!!!!!!! (compare their response with what I
wrote to them.  You'll see why)
<snip>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Domingo,

I highly apologize for the error.  3)I am well aware of the HP200LX.  It
was
an oversight on my part and I apologize. <snip>

2) The
Windows CE 1.1 OS is what I believe your HP200LX runs off of - this OS is
a<snip>
Regards,
              Joel
<snip>
 -----Original Message-----
From:   ddvteach@juno.com mailto:ddvteach@juno.com
Sent:   Wednesday, July 26, 2000 9:59 PM
To:     jcrimm@SoDeog.com
Subject:        Re: SyncTalk and the HP200LX

<snip>with an infrared port, hence its potential use with Synctalk.  2) It
is DOS
based, and I would
hardly call DOS a closed platform.   If you knew all this, then I
understand the inaccurate
portrayal.   But if you didn't, then I would humbly suggest that your
company reconsider this issue.
I do believe it has great potential.

Domingo<snip>

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>
> I already do this.
> But SMS are expensive here. I would like to send a SMS when I go online
> with my ISP as I do that quite often.

I don't use but I have it set up in POST/Lx. What you need to do is to
have robot.exe set up and the sms scripts availlable in your directory.
You need yor cellphone to send the SMS. The only convenience I see is
the bigger screen and the keyboard of the palmtop.

In POST/LX you must add a folder for your SMS's - the rest is like
composing and sending e-mails (see docs of SMS.ZIP) :

...
FOLDERS
Mail=E
a1net=E
Netway=E
SMS=X
...
SMS
Alias=FOLDER SMS Short Message Service
CheckFields=0
SMTP=not.set
POP=not.set
Sets=asnm
Template=c:\w3\sms.tpl
Signature=c:\w3\sig.txt
...
EXTERNAL
&HV (DISCONNECT)=HV $f $d
H&V (NO DISCONNECT)=HV $f
&DosBox=d:\dos\command.com
&SMS=c:\w3\sms.bat
...

with SMS.BAT
wwwset "Port=-1"
c:\w\robot.exe c:\w\scripts\sms.scr



> Hans Peter Staber wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if it is possible to send SMS via email.
> > > I sometimes would like my emails to turn up as SMS on someones phone.
> >
> > Try ROBOT/LX together with SMS.ZIP from DASoft. You compose SMS as
> > e-mail within POST/LX.
>
>       /tomas moberg
>                        Uppsala
>
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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:59:54 -0700
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Domingo,

I apologize if I stepped on any toes, however I, and I am sure most 200lx
users would like to have the means to pass data and files between platforms
via IR. The last post I saw from you (I am on digest so I would not have
seen any posted today) indicated that you had given up.
I felt (and still feel) that this function would be very useful to all of
us and possibly prolong the life of the 200lx. Several people have posted
that they are turning away from the 200lx in favor of the Palm Pilot
specifically relating to the ability of Palm's to trade data.

I believe that there is enough talent on the HPLX-L list to enable us do
anything that we set our minds to, both from a software and a hardware
perspective.

There appeared to be enough of an opening in the response from Ryan Walcott
for me to be hopeful that IR communication between the 200lx and other
platforms is doable if enough of us want it. And I for one am willing to
pay for that capability.

Joe

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:21:14 -0400
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Never having owned a Newton, I was really surprised to learn that some
models (OMP & MP100 only) included a "thermometer" function! Press and hold
the status bar clock to see the temperature in the battery compartment.

I presume that this is related to voltage-sensing, part of the battery
charging function performed by the analog-digital converter.

Is there a similar function in the 200LX that could be calibrated and
reported as temperature?

Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:18:22 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Tue,  1 Aug 2000 16:38:11 -0400 (EDT)

16m55s ago ...
On Tue,  1 Aug 2000, Bruce Martin wrote:

> Never having owned a Newton, I was really surprised to learn that some
> models (OMP & MP100 only) included a "thermometer" function! Press and =
hold
> the status bar clock to see the temperature in the battery compartment.

Cool!

> I presume that this is related to voltage-sensing, part of the battery
> charging function performed by the analog-digital converter.

Probably...

> Is there a similar function in the 200LX that could be calibrated and
> reported as temperature?

Not that I know of.  According to my copy of the LXRef, the ADC is
3-channel, 6 bits.  The channels are assigned to the main battery,
backup battery, and reference voltage.  There is a temp sensor that
controls the display contrast.


Later,

Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:03:48 -0400
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>> Never having owned a Newton, I was really surprised to learn that some
>> models (OMP & MP100 only) included a "thermometer" function! Press and
hold
>> the status bar clock to see the temperature in the battery compartment.
snip
>> Is there a similar function in the 200LX that could be calibrated and
>> reported as temperature?
>>
> Not that I know of.  According to my copy of the LXRef, the ADC is
> 3-channel, 6 bits.  The channels are assigned to the main battery,
> backup battery, and reference voltage.
>
Too bad...

> There is a temp sensor that controls the display contrast.
>
Aha! Could the output of this temp sensor be read by an application and
displayed in degrees Celcius (and Farenheit, for Americans)?

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:15:12 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Yeah I know ... I have a lot of junk.

I need to clear up some more clutter, and raising some extra cash won't hurt
either.  So the following items are for sale.  Some stuff is applicable to 200LX
and others to Omnibooks, and some to both ... so apologies to both list groups
for whatever parts waste your bandwidth.

***** Replies by email ONLY (I will not respond to on-list replies to buy)
******

1. $45 Jeteye infrared printer adapter (ESI-9510A). Works (supposedly) for both
omnibooks (300 - 530?) and HP100/200 LX.  Comes with AC adapter, tho that's not
needed in most cases.  Attaches to the printer's parallel port.  Box and manual
included.

2. $20 Omnibook Fax/Modem Communications Pack (HP F1040A).  2400 baud modem,
cable and ROM card with software (MS Mail 3.2, WinFax LITE, DynaComm 3.1).  Box
but no manuals.  I got this from an HP dealer and never had to use it since each
of my omnibooks already came equipped with the modem.

3. $35 3Com Fast EtherLink XL CardBus PC Card (3C575-TX), 32-bit 10/100base-TX.
Includes card, dongle and install disk.  Definitely won't work on the LX, and
I've never tried it on the omnibooks (since I normally use a modem/NIC combo
already).

4. $15 Western Digital Caviar 40mb PCMCIA Type III drive (for Omnibook).

5. $15 Canon 8mb CF card.  Works in my single speed LX and Omnibooks, but not in
my double-speed 200LX (go figure).  You'll have to provide your own adapter

6. $25 Megahertz XJ3144 14.4k modem (cellular model, but no cellular cable). A
low-power 14.4 modem especially good for the 200LX (better than the XJ1144,
powerwise).  I'll also throw in a Megahertz XJEM3336 modem/NIC card.  The NIC
part is suspect ... I can't get it to work, but the 33.6 modem seems to work
fine (on the omnibook ... I haven't tried it on the LX tho I doubt it'll work
there).

7. $30 Xircom CEM33 combo card (33.6 modem / NIC), includes dongles for modem
and NIC.  Modem works on the LX (I tried it), tho not recommended due to high
power rating.  This came with a spare Omnibook 800CT and I don't have any use
for it.  No disks ... drivers are available from the Xircom website.

8. $15 Stacker 4.1.  Box and diskettes.  Bought and never used. I'll also
include an unopened copy of Allways, the 123 add-on for spreadsheet publishing.

9. $30 Lotus 123 V2.3. Box, manuals and unopened package of 5.25" disks (box
will state that it only came with these ... ie, there were no 3.5" disks
included).  Price is somewhat negotiable ... package is heavy (due to the
manuals), so the price may be less depending on how much it costs to ship.

Replies by email ONLY (I will not respond to on-list replies to buy).    All
prices include US priority shipping.  Any non-US buyers will need to add those
horrendous shipping costs ... sorry.   Multiple items that can be shipped
together may get a break in price (depends on the weight).

Thanks.

- Longden

PS - If anyone is interested, I have a complete AST Penexec notebook computer
for sale (old 386 pen computer).  Email me if you're interested.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:07:08 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Wouldn't it be cool if...
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>>> There is a temp sensor that controls the display contrast.
>>>
>>Aha! Could the output of this temp sensor be read by an application and
>>displayed in degrees Celcius (and Farenheit, for Americans)?

I don't think it is an actual temp sensor more like a resister that changes
value according to the temp so no actual output from the device, on the
other hand I could be totally wrong <g>

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:08:18 -0400
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              Sputnik <sputnik@VOICENET.COM>
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 TBBS bbs software forsale $30+sh comes with the following

 All User Manuals/Books i have for it
 All Disk/Copies/Utils/Etc.. for it
 Anything and Everything for it (my user account on the support site, yes
it is telnet in or dialup)

 This bbs software will run on any XT 4.77mhz machine (humm 95LX and up)
with 256k min needed

 any questions ask, just a bunch of stuff (multiline and singleline
versions included (yes even the 16node version will run on a 200LX!!))

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:23:33 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Hi again, and apologies for more bandwidth, but some items are now sold and I
just wanted to spare anymore people the pain.

Here's what's still available.  As before, buy requests should be sent email,
*not* on-list.

Thanks.

- Longden

---------------------- Forwarded by Longden Loo/AGH/Candle on 08/01/2000 09:18
AM ---------------------------

From: Longden Loo on 08/01/2000 02:15 PM



To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu, omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org
cc:
Subject:  End of Summer cleaning

Yeah I know ... I have a lot of junk.

I need to clear up some more clutter, and raising some extra cash won't hurt
either.  So the following items are for sale.  Some stuff is applicable to 200LX
and others to Omnibooks, and some to both ... so apologies to both list groups
for whatever parts waste your bandwidth.

***** Replies by email ONLY (I will not respond to on-list replies to buy)
******

2. $20 Omnibook Fax/Modem Communications Pack (HP F1040A).  2400 baud modem,
cable and ROM card with software (MS Mail 3.2, WinFax LITE, DynaComm 3.1).  Box
but no manuals.  I got this from an HP dealer and never had to use it since each
of my omnibooks already came equipped with the modem.

4. $15 Western Digital Caviar 40mb PCMCIA Type III drive (for Omnibook).

6. $25 Megahertz XJ3144 14.4k modem (cellular model, but no cellular cable). A
low-power 14.4 modem especially good for the 200LX (better than the XJ1144,
powerwise).  I'll also throw in a Megahertz XJEM3336 modem/NIC card.  The NIC
part is suspect ... I can't get it to work, but the 33.6 modem seems to work
fine (on the omnibook ... I haven't tried it on the LX tho I doubt it'll work
there).

8. $15 Stacker 4.1.  Box and diskettes.  Bought and never used. I'll also
include an unopened copy of Allways, the 123 add-on for spreadsheet publishing.

9. $30 Lotus 123 V2.3. Box, manuals and unopened package of 5.25" disks (box
will state that it only came with these ... ie, there were no 3.5" disks
included).  Price is somewhat negotiable ... package is heavy (due to the
manuals), so the price may be less depending on how much it costs to ship.

Replies by email ONLY (I will not respond to on-list replies to buy).    All
prices include US priority shipping.  Any non-US buyers will need to add those
horrendous shipping costs ... sorry.   Multiple items that can be shipped
together may get a break in price (depends on the weight).

Thanks.

- Longden

PS - If anyone is interested, I have a complete AST Penexec notebook computer
for sale (old 386 pen computer).  Email me if you're interested.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:55:57 EDT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      200LX crash

It wasn't a total crash, but two directories on the C: drive
had garbage in them. The other directories were O.K. The
config.sys file on the C: drive was trashed. My topcard PCX file,
which is in the root directory, was trashed. I had a very
hard time rebooting, either with CTRL-ALT-DEL or with
CTRL-LEFT SHIFT-ON. It would often lock up and give me a divide
overflow error, or show garbage on the screen. This was probably
because of the trashed config.sys file, which showed as pure
garbage when I tried to TYPE it (type config.sys).

This happened when I was trying to XCOPY everything to my 10MB
SunDisk card (early model SanDisk), which has never given me
any problems before, being 100% compatible with the 4MB SanDisk
I keep in the machine at all times.

I was running on Kodak 1600mAH batteries which were showing 84%
with the CHARGING software (bat.com). I replaced them with
fully charged Renewals. No good. The backup battery was showing
98% with CHARGING and OK under System Manager, but I got the
machine used and never replaced it, so I replaced it anyway.

I used LapLink to copy all the important stuff to my desktop
hard drive. I also checked both memory cards from the desktop
with LapLink and they were fine.

I cleared off the C: drive and XCOPIED everything from my 4MB
card, which had been backed up to most recently. Then everything
worked fine. I put the Kodaks back in. I backed up to the 10MB
card like I was planning to do, using XCOPY.

So I'm back in business, but I'd like to know why and avoid having
this happen again.

The 200LX is a single speed 2MB model which was upgraded to 5MB
internally, not counting the 4MB card I normally keep in it.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Mark Shields

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:00:32 -0400
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From:         Rick Rae <RickRae@USA.NET>
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On 7/31/00 at 3:28 PM, in response to a post about my "hybrid 100/200LX,
Ken London wrote, in part:

>Any messages regarding the hinge problem or maintenance reports on the
200lx
>would not be fluff in my book.  I feel they are important messages and
>should not be labeled fluff.  Fluff should be reserved for things not
>immediately related to the 200lx.

I would certainly agree.  However, my post contained no additional or
useful information relating to LX repairs or maintenance.  It was, in fact,
pretty much a chatty "me too" that related how I got a little silly when
rebuilding my 200LX... and was posted with the sole intent of bringing a
smile to a few list readers.

Given that there has been a little... ahem... "sensitivity" on the list
lately relative to such posts, I chose to err on the side of caution.

Cheers,
Rick

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Date:         Wed, 2 Aug 2000 03:26:00 +0000
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> displayed in degrees Celcius (and Farenheit, for Americans)?
>
> Bruce in Toronto

And Bruce in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, North America, Americas, what are
you? (g)  (at least I hope I got Toronto in the right "state!" (G))

For our European friends, somehow, US citizens seem to be the only
Americans on the continent or hemisphere which is odd since we share it
with a few hundred Candadians and Mexicans as well as a dozen or so from
other countries! (G)

Take care,

Fred

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:32:01 -0700
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More on hooking up (configuring):

http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/internet.html

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Date:         Wed, 2 Aug 2000 02:01:48 -0400
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: 200LX crash

   >I was running on Kodak 1600mAH batteries which were showing 84%
   >with the CHARGING software (bat.com). I replaced them with
   >fully charged Renewals. No good. The backup battery was showing
   >98% with CHARGING and OK under System Manager, but I got the
   >machine used and never replaced it, so I replaced it anyway.
   >I used LapLink to copy all the important stuff to my desktop
   >hard drive. I also checked both memory cards from the desktop
   >with LapLink and they were fine.
Message-Id: <20000802060154.ZHIN6710.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@12.72.155.202>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:02:00 +0000

Sorry to hear about the crash but it sounds like you've taken all the
prudent steps already.

My money would be on the xcopy to the old card causing the problem, possibly
in conjunction with the usual high power required for writes ... maybe more
so for an older card with possibly marginal sectors forcing retries (but
which test OK).

Or it could just be fate reminding you who's boss <g>.

I would monitor your power usage on both cards and see if the older card is
maybe drastically different. Run some benchmarks, it may save you from future
headaches.

Also, beware that drastic crashes like these might affect (or have affected)
that persistent area of memory in the LX.  I think some people experience
odd power problems afterwards (batteries running low too fast), and usually
correct by draining the system (all batts out for overnight or batts out
and press/hold On key for 1/2 min).

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:14:26 -0700
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              Reed Kennedy <TINYTREE@WORLDSHARE.NET>
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It was a rudimentary temerature sensor, and was located in the battery
compartment.  The original pourpose was to adjust the contrast of the newton
according to the ambiant temperature.  If you've ever looked at your HPLX
after leaving it in a cold car overnight (cold = sub freezing) or after
leaving it on the dash or somewhere in the sun, you'll observe that this
does indeed affect the screen contrast.  Unfortunatly, view angle, battery
level, and lighting also affect contrast so on all models after the 100
(110,120,130,2000,2100) the temp sensor was replaced with a much more
functional and much more boring contrast knob (or was it a software slider?
It's been to long since I owned a 120).  Even on the old ones, it wasn't
very good for either contrast or temperature reading functions, as it tended
to report the temperature of the generally warm battery compartment inside
your generally warm pocket (if you could fit the newton there, that is!), a
problem similar to modern temperature watchs which in fact read a
combination of the temperature around you and that of your arm.  It was
cool, none the less.  Argueably, the fact that it included a temperature
sensor was a fairly good metaphore for the newton, and why it failed.  Very
cool, but unuseable, and over-featured.

My .02 plus inflation.
Reed Kennedy
(back with the HPLX mailing list after a 2 year Palm powered hiatus.)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Martin" <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:21 PM
Subject: Wouldn't it be cool if...


> Never having owned a Newton, I was really surprised to learn that some
> models (OMP & MP100 only) included a "thermometer" function! Press and
hold
> the status bar clock to see the temperature in the battery compartment.
>
> I presume that this is related to voltage-sensing, part of the battery
> charging function performed by the analog-digital converter.
>
> Is there a similar function in the 200LX that could be calibrated and
> reported as temperature?
>
> Bruce in Toronto
>
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>

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Date:         Wed, 2 Aug 2000 03:06:19 -0400
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              FRiC <frac@POBOX.COM>
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Nope, I have the original Newton (drove to NYC to buy it, for $700,
on the first week of its release) and the temperature sensor is
definitely for detecting the battery temperature during recharges.
The screen contrast is only set using a software slider.

Extreme heat/cold affects LCD displays, but HPLX is the first I've
seen that adjusts the contrast accordingly to compensate for
temperature changes.

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Date:         Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:05:14 +0200
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              fernando_ruiz2@HP.COM
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Hi!

Good reference !!!

Best reg's

Fernando Ruiz

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Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:32 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: LX/ISP..


More on hooking up (configuring):

http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/internet.html

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Subject:      Lost function key selection in Sci Calculator (Sin,Cos, Pi etc)
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Wierd problem,
Went to use the scientific (or Math) calculator today
and lower functions were all blank - i.e. no Pi, sin
cos etc.

Anyone seenn this before?  Have tried a ctrl-alt-del
with no joy, any ideas, semi hard re-boot?

Regards......Liam

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Subject:      Re: Lost function key selection in Sci Calculator (Sin,Cos,
              Pi etc)
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Have you tried a "vanilla" boot (one that loads no TSRs)?

I thought some TSRs like Buddy (which I don't use) take over the label area.
Could be that a TSR is corrupted or confused?

I'd make a config.sys and autoexec.bat with the bare bones to start up (ie, like
an "out of the box" LX) and see if the problem persists.

- Longden





"Eng. & Industrial Projects" <danaan@OPERA.IINET.NET.AU> on 08/02/2000 03:45:32
AM

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cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Lost function key selection in Sci Calculator (Sin,Cos, Pi etc)



Wierd problem,
Went to use the scientific (or Math) calculator today
and lower functions were all blank - i.e. no Pi, sin
cos etc.

Anyone seenn this before?  Have tried a ctrl-alt-del
with no joy, any ideas, semi hard re-boot?

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Date:         Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:01:02 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Nationwide local dialup ISP that still offers Shell access?

Hi Ted,

>At any rate, for $5/month it might be worth trying it for a bit.
>The person I've dealt with for most of my account issues is Wendy
>Battles <wendyb@netINS.net>, she is very nice.  You could also
>call 800-546-6587 (800-5HOOKUP) or e-mail info@netINS.net.
>
>Thanks for taking the time to explain things to me, John.

Your welcome any time... and thank you for sharing your impressions of
your ISP and your recommended point of contact.  That kind of information
is indeed valuable. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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On 2 Aug 2000, at 0:00, Thomas Moberg wrote

> I already do this.
> But SMS are expensive here. I would like to send a SMS when I go online
> with my ISP as I do that quite often.
>

my mobile phone provider allows emails to be sent to the handy for
_free_.
You get an email adress for your handy in the form
+43664<your phone number>@text.mobilkom.at
and you receive the emails as SMS up to 160 characters each.

regards,
Werner


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Date:         Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:12:36 -0700
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              Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM
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Rx this from Domingo in response to my msg to SyncTalk. He posted this to
the list (per his address line) however, it was not on the digest I rx from
yesterday, so I am forwarding this to the list. My response to this msg was
posted to the list yesterday as the 2nd "Re: SyncTalk and the HP200LX" msg.
Unfortunatly , out of context. Hope this clears this issue up. Looks like
there still is hope.

Joe




---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on
08/02/2000 06:01 AM ---------------------------


ddvteach@juno.com on 08/01/2000 11:36:22 AM

To:    rwalcott@SoDeog.com, HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
cc:    Joseph.Buford@HSC.com

Subject:  Re: SyncTalk and the HP200LX


Please accept my apologies for this thing getting more complicated than
it needed to be.   Mr. Walford is probably not aware that Mr. Buford's
message
was posted to the Hp200LX list.   Since Mr. Walford is not a member, his
response was not posted to the list, so I am including it below, for all
to see.
I originally brought these private communications up to the list so that
I could
get help from the list in matters on which I am not an expert.   That's
how I
found out that Mr. Goldstein had already been in touch with Mr. Walford
about
this issue.  Unfortunately, I did not choose to share Mr. Walford's last
communications with the list, since it appeared that it was a closed
door.
Unfortunately, it probably left the impression that the Syntalk company
was
not interested in being informed about this issue.   That was not my
intention.
The response below is essentially the same as the last response I got,
except the part about still being open to outsourcing.

Domingo

P.S.  It is a good idea for list members who are interested to get in
touch with this
company, but as individual interested parties.   Using my posts might not
be best,
as the context is lost in the process.


On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:21:36 -0400 Ryan Walcott <rwalcott@SoDeog.com>
writes:
> Joseph and Domingo,
>
> Please accept my sincere apologies for the errors in our responses
> to your
> user community.....................
<Snip>

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Recived this from SyncTalk. Seems to leave open the possability of support
for the 200lx in communicating with other palm type platforms.

Joe
---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on
08/02/2000 05:59 AM ---------------------------


Ryan Walcott <rwalcott@SoDeog.com> on 08/01/2000 09:21:36 AM

To:    Joseph.Buford@HSC.com, ddvteach@JUNO.COM
cc:

Subject:  RE: SyncTalk and the HP200LX


Joseph and Domingo,

Please accept my sincere apologies for the errors in our responses to your
user community.  Our core technology team is very aware of the HP200LX and
in the past did consider porting the software to the platform.  Our
constraint was that we did not have enough developers to cover the 200LX
and
the other operating systems we currently cover.

We respect the 200LX user community and will again take a look at how we
can
support it.  Another technical hurdle we face is that our code is optimized
for C++ environments and 32bit operating systems.  We must consider all of
these issues.  I know you aren't concerned with excuses, but I wanted to
articulate for you our real issues and constraints.

I spoke with Hal Goldstein at the PocketPC launch in New York about
outsourcing the port of SyncTalk.  This is another avenue we will continue
to explore.

Again accept my sincere apologies and let me know if you have any further
questions or suggestions you would like to discuss.

Thanks,

Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph.Buford@HSC.com mailto:Joseph.Buford@HSC.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:23 AM
To: jcrimm@SoDeog.com; info@SoDeog.com; mmerchant@crescentpr.com;
HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: SyncTalk and the HP200LX


HPLX'ers,
First, let me apologize to the HPLX-L List for the possible WASTE of
bandwidth, but I cannot let this drop!!!

Mr. Crimm,
<snip>

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              Pi etc)
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Wed,  2 Aug 2000 09:32:46 -0400 (EDT)

02h47m35s ago ...
On Wed,  2 Aug 2000, Eng. & Industrial Projects wrote:

> Wierd problem,
> Went to use the scientific (or Math) calculator today
> and lower functions were all blank - i.e. no Pi, sin
> cos etc.
>
> Anyone seenn this before?  Have tried a ctrl-alt-del
> with no joy, any ideas, semi hard re-boot?

Haven't seen this one before.  A lot wierd behaviour in the built-in
apps can be traced to their .env files in C:_DAT   Look for calc.env
and delete it.  Next time you start the calc app, a new one will be
created.


HTH

Peniel
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Is there are way to start Lotus without it trying to look in the _dat file
as a default?

Jeff

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In 123...

/Worksheet Global Default Directory

That sets the directory where it normally starts a file search.

- Longden





Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> on 08/02/2000 06:42:19 AM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Starting Lotus



Is there are way to start Lotus without it trying to look in the _dat file
as a default?

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:05:48 -0700, Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM> wrote:

> In 123...
>
> /Worksheet Global Default Directory
>
> That sets the directory where it normally starts a file search.

Cool! Thanks!

Jeff

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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Sending SMS via email?
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:52:57 +0200, Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE> wrote:

> I already do this.
> But SMS are expensive here. I would like to send a SMS when I go online
> with my ISP as I do that quite often.

I used a service as this Some time ago. I sent a mail to
cellnumber@blabla.com and then they recevied this as a sms.

I belive that it was a swedish service. They charged for this service,
but I do not remember how much. They had a discount plan for firms
which sent a lot of sms's. There are probably a lot of these services
around. Do a search or maybe ask in newsgroups. I found the one above
in the swedish newsgroup .telefoni

Good luck

(Let me/us know if you find a cheap/free service which does this :-)

Regards

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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 20:23:44 +0100, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> >
> > I already do this.
> > But SMS are expensive here. I would like to send a SMS when I go online
> > with my ISP as I do that quite often.
>
> I don't use but I have it set up in POST/Lx. What you need to do is to
> have robot.exe set up and the sms scripts availlable in your directory.
> You need yor cellphone to send the SMS. The only convenience I see is
> the bigger screen and the keyboard of the palmtop.
>
> In POST/LX you must add a folder for your SMS's - the rest is like
> composing and sending e-mails (see docs of SMS.ZIP) :

Andreas's script is good. But I must say that Stefan's pdu script is
little bit better.

Stefan's can do this in addition
1. Send flashmessages (which is cool:-)
2. Transfer the Outbox of 7110 to the Hplx.

Both Andreas and Stefan's transfer messages from phone (both from sim
and phonememory) to the Hplx.

Stefan's script does not transfer messages that you write yourself on
the phone and store. I am not sure if Andreas's script does this.
(probably not)

Regards

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Wed,  2 Aug 2000 10:41:07 -0400 (EDT)

16h30m58s ago ...
On Tue,  1 Aug 2000, Larry Tachna wrote:

> I don't think it is an actual temp sensor more like a resister that =
changes
> value according to the temp so no actual output from the device, on the
> other hand I could be totally wrong <g>

I think you're right - it's probably a thermistor.  That would be the
most likely device to set the contrast level to ambient temp.  No point
in semantic arguments about the meaning of "sensor".  8-)

Back to the original point - even if a temp sensor (of any type) could
be mounted in the battery compartment and connected to the A-D
convertor, it wouldn't be much use since the batteries barely get warm
during charge.  The heat is all generated by the power supply/charging
circuit.  Battery temp monitoring is vital for high-speed chargers,
but not in something like the LX.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Reed Kennedy" <TINYTREE@WORLDSHARE.NET>
> according to the ambiant temperature.  If you've ever looked at your HPLX
> after leaving it in a cold car overnight (cold = sub freezing) or after
> leaving it on the dash or somewhere in the sun, you'll observe that this
> does indeed affect the screen contrast.  Unfortunatly, view angle, battery

Wouldn't the freezing temperatures cause the batteries to stop working and
make the whole unit dead?  I live in Mass. and was  always nervous about the
HP200lx becoming dead on some cold ten degree below zero day.

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I have no idea.

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Subject:      End of Summer cleaning - last call
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My last update ... promise!

Following is what's left.

Thanks to all for your interest, and regrets to those I had to turn down.

- Longden



---------------------- Forwarded by Longden Loo/AGH/Candle on 08/02/2000 10:20
AM ---------------------------

From: Longden Loo on 08/01/2000 02:15 PM



To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu, omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org
cc:
Subject:  End of Summer cleaning

***** Replies by email ONLY (I will not respond to on-list replies to buy)
******

2. $20 Omnibook Fax/Modem Communications Pack (HP F1040A).  2400 baud modem,
cable and ROM card with software (MS Mail 3.2, WinFax LITE, DynaComm 3.1).  Box
but no manuals.  I got this from an HP dealer and never had to use it since each
of my omnibooks already came equipped with the modem.

4. $15 Western Digital Caviar 40mb PCMCIA Type III drive (for Omnibook).

8. $15 Stacker 4.1.  Box and diskettes.  Bought and never used. I'll also
include an unopened copy of Allways, the 123 add-on for spreadsheet publishing.


Replies by email ONLY (I will not respond to on-list replies to buy).    All
prices include US priority shipping.  Any non-US buyers will need to add those
horrendous shipping costs ... sorry.   Multiple items that can be shipped
together may get a break in price (depends on the weight).

PS - If anyone is interested, I have a complete AST Penexec notebook computer
for sale (old 386 pen computer).  Email me if you're interested.

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Sputnik,

Will you take a check?

William E. Blankenship

Sputnik wrote:
>
>  TBBS bbs software forsale $30+sh comes with the following
>
>  All User Manuals/Books i have for it
>  All Disk/Copies/Utils/Etc.. for it
>  Anything and Everything for it (my user account on the support site, yes
> it is telnet in or dialup)
>

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 01:45:41 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
Subject:      Re: Sending SMS via email?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Found it.
If You send a email to number@esms.nu Your email will recive as a SMS
at the number You wrote infront of the @. If You whant to send a fax
You use faxnumber@efax.nu.
It appears that it is not possible to send to multiple recivers with
one mesage. You have to write a new email for every SMS message.
I dont know if these services works outside Sweden.

Martin Bergvill wrote:

> I used a service as this Some time ago. I sent a mail to
> cellnumber@blabla.com and then they recevied this as a sms.
...
> (Let me/us know if you find a cheap/free service which does this :-)

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:37:28 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      IBM Serial Infrared Adaptor
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Has anyone ever managed to make this thing work with the 200LX?

Thanks,

Philippe

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Date:         Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:16:59 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              cyeager <cyeager@CALWEB.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         cyeager <cyeager@CALWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: IBM Serial Infrared Adaptor
Comments: To: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <037d01bffcee$c43ad830$7613140a@siebel.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Yes ... I use TransFile200 .. Works great

On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Fryday wrote:

> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:37:28 -0700
> From: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
>      Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: IBM Serial Infrared Adaptor
>
> Has anyone ever managed to make this thing work with the 200LX?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Philippe
>
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>

____________________
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Date:         Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:50:06 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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From:         Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
Organization: None
Subject:      Re: Fluff HP Joke
Comments: To: Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <000c01bffb59$4f9b4460$e810f4d0@beld.net>
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Ken London wrote:
>DAILY JOKE:  Good Advice
>An actual tip from page 16 of the HP "Environmental, Health & Safety Handbook for Employees:
>"Blink your eyelids periodically to lubricate your eyes."

I once saw (first hand) in an HP manual to one of their measuring
instruments, which comes with a little magnifying glass to manipulate
small parts, something like "Warning: do not view the sun through the
magnifying glass."

--
Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:25:38 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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From:         Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
Subject:      I dont get any News from the list.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is there someting wrong with the news list? I have not gotten any new =
messages for a while.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:33:16 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
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From:         Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
Subject:      1nol Access from HP200LX - IT WORKS !!!
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi,

Recent postings on the list pointed to a national free ISP access in the USA.
I did set up the configuration in WWW/LX ver 3 and it works (it works also
in WWW/LX ver 2 and should work with any other mailer).

You might wonder why a Belgian citizen needs a free ISP in the USA but it is
much easier and cheaper, when travelling internationally, to call a USA based
free ISP than a free belgian based one.

 1.Go to http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/RightWay/wizard57m/dosinet.htm
 2.Follow the instructions and download the Quick Setup Tips sheet.
 3.Follow the Tips sheet instructions BUT change POP and SMTP to mail1.1nol.com
   (note the mail1 instead of mail)
 4. Get the list of local dial-up at www.1nol.com/central
 5. Setup up WWW/LX and enjoy.

Here is a copy of my settings in WWW/LX and Post/LX :

WWW.CFG:
 Setup
 ...
 1NOL=ISP using PPP with CHAP 1NOl

 1NOL
 Port=2
 OmniGo=0
 PPP=1
 Modem=1
 Baud=19200
 My_IP=0.0.0.0
 DNS_IP=204.178.185.5
 DNS2_IP=204.178.185.105
 Script=CHAP_Script
 Login="your login" + @1nol
 ModemInit=AT&F
 ; international dialing to Atlanta node, remove 001 if in the USA
 Dial=ATDT0016785383300
 Password="your password" + xms

POST.CFG :

 onenol
 Dir=c:\d\mail
 Alias=One Nol in USA
 SMTP=mail1.1nol.com
 POP=mail1.1nol.com
 Login=  your login
 Pass=   your password
 Del=1
 Sep=0
 RPA=0
 APOP=0
 VolatilePOP=0
 popfirst=1

Good luck,


 \/
 /ves

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:54:58 +0930
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Peter.Caldwell@NT.GOV.AU
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Peter Caldwell <Peter.Caldwell@NT.GOV.AU>
Subject:      Re: I dont get any News from the list.
Comments: To: Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Tomas

Must be something wrong with your setup or subscription.  The list is still
active.  However, I (and others) have had problems with renewing, in my case
because my e:mail client - Lotus Notes as set up by my employer - has changed my
e:mail address.  I've had to subscribe rather than renew my subscription.

Peter Caldwell, Principal Adviser, Northern Territory Treasury, Phone (08) 8999
7087  Fax (08) 8999 7150



                    Tomas Moberg
                    <Tomas.Moberg@AB        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
                    C.SE>                   cc:
                    Sent by: HPLX           Subject:     I dont get any News from the list.
                    Mailing List
                    <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.
                    UCONN.EDU>


                    03/08/00 05:55
                    PM
                    Please respond
                    to HPLX Mailing
                    List; Please
                    respond to Tomas
                    Moberg





Is there someting wrong with the news list? I have not gotten any new messages
for a while.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:35:40 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
Subject:      Re: Sending SMS via email?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The number@esms.nu stops to work after a couple of sms. Just write
another email in the sender field.

>
> (Let me/us know if you find a cheap/free service which does this :-)

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:35:38 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
Subject:      Re: I dont get any News from the list.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I dont think I have made any errous configuration. It just suddenly
stoped to work. When I retrive -20 messages I still end up at 21903 as
the highest number.
I dont eaven get these messages that I write now.

Peter.Caldwell@nt.gov.au wrote:
> Tomas
>
> Must be something wrong with your setup or subscription.  The list is =
still
> active.  However, I (and others) have had problems with renewing, in my =
case
      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:37:24 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              CM Evans <cmevans@FLASH.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         CM Evans <cmevans@FLASH.NET>
Subject:      getting low battery alarm,won't power up
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Has anybody had the problem on their 200lx?
this is an out of warranty double speed 8 meg upgrade from thaddeus.

As soon as I turn it on, it beeps and tells me the main battery is very low, then is
beeps and tells me the backup battery is very low, then shuts down entirely.  I can bring
it up for a couple of more seconds, by pulling out the batteries and putting them back
in, but then get shutdown almost immediately with the same symptoms.

I've replace the main and backup batteries with no change.  I've cleaned all battery
contacts.  I 've inspected the board with no obvious breaks.

I'm getting ready to ship it off for repair, unless somebody has seen this before and
knows what it is.

mike in albq

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:15:12 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Longden Loo <Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: getting low battery alarm,won't power up
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

> As soon as I turn it on, it beeps and tells me the main battery is very low,
> then is
> beeps and tells me the backup battery is very low, then shuts down entirely.
I
> can bring
> it up for a couple of more seconds, by pulling out the batteries and putting
> them back
> in, but then get shutdown almost immediately with the same symptoms.
>
> I've replace the main and backup batteries with no change.  I've cleaned all
> battery
> contacts.  I 've inspected the board with no obvious breaks.
>
> I'm getting ready to ship it off for repair, unless somebody has seen this
> before and
> knows what it is.

Try pulling all the batteries again. Only this time, when the batteries are out,
drain the system by pressing and holding the "On" key for about a minute.  Then
replace the batteries (I think the AAs are supposed to go in first?).

Sometimes, things corrupt in the LX's persistent memory area (XBRAM?) and
affects the power system ... draining everything resets that area and may solve
the problem.

Of course, make sure the LX data is backed up before you do this as the
operation wipes out all memory.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:35:26 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
Subject:      Re: getting low battery alarm,won't power up
Comments: To: CM Evans <cmevans@FLASH.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Do you have a card in the PCMCIA slot?  If so, remove that first and try
again.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:36:41 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: IBM Serial Infrared Adaptor
Comments: To: cyeager <cyeager@calweb.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hmm, I never managed to make my PC use IRQ 15 for this thing instead of the Hard Drive controller...

----- Original Message -----
From: "cyeager" <cyeager@calweb.com>
To: "HPLX Mailing List" <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>; "Fryday" <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: IBM Serial Infrared Adaptor


>
> Yes ... I use TransFile200 .. Works great
>
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Fryday wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:37:28 -0700
> > From: Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> > Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
> >      Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: IBM Serial Infrared Adaptor
> >
> > Has anyone ever managed to make this thing work with the 200LX?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Philippe
> >
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> >
>
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> ____________________/
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:48:26 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
Subject:      Re: I dont get any News from the list.
Comments: To: Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tomas Moberg" <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:25 AM
Subject: I dont get any News from the list.


Is there someting wrong with the news list? I have not gotten any new
messages for a while.

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-------New Message-----------
Seems fine on this end.  The list seems to be working
fine..............................

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:53:15 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
Subject:      Re: getting low battery alarm,won't power up
Comments: To: CM Evans <cmevans@FLASH.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "CM Evans" <cmevans@FLASH.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 8:37 AM
Subject: getting low battery alarm,won't power up

Did you try plugging it in with the AC Adapter and checking that the
batteries are good?

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:08:37 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
Subject:      Re: getting low battery alarm,won't power up
Comments: To: Ken <KenLondon@BELD.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Could this be due to a dead or shorted backup battery? Bryan


Ken wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CM Evans" <cmevans@FLASH.NET>
> To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 8:37 AM
> Subject: getting low battery alarm,won't power up
>
> Did you try plugging it in with the AC Adapter and checking that the
> batteries are good?
>
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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:00:53 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      HP 200LX's in stock (almost)  from Holland
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi,

I just wanted to update everyone on the status of the 4000 HP 200LX's we are
purchasing from the Dutch Railway company.

The first 525 units arrived in Chicago on Monday. We are still waiting for
them to clear customs -- something that should take a day or 2, but
sometimes can stretch out.  Wayne from our company is flying to Holland
tomorrow. He will monitor their testing procedures and verify that another
3000 in good shape will be sent Aug 11.

Every palmtop is being checked from their side via the self-test and
physical examination.  HP is repairing all bad ones.  We have been told the
units being sent are in very good condition.

Pre-orders will be shipped first as soon as we get them, test them, and
clean/tighten them up. Then, first come first served. I believe most of the
first 525 are sold.

These units are the same as US units but have additional European symbols on
the keyboard. They have a white Dutch logo on front, the white can be
removed with nail polish remover.

Bottom line is that we expect to have 200LX's in stock for at least a year
and they should be in good shape.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:08:42 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Palmtop Paper Moving to Web
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

We are moving The HP Palmtop Paper to www.palmtoppaper.com. Yesterday, we
mailed out our last print version of the nine year publication!  Anyone who
is owed issues will receive a coupon for our Palmtop Store worth more than
the refund for the unused portion of their subscription.  (Anyone who
prefers can request payment for the unused portion of their sub).

Ed Keefe in the next month will actively begin to put new articles and tips
on the web.

As you can see from our other announcement, we plan to support the HP200LX
from a long time to come. 4000 palmtops is a lot of palmtops to sell and we
continue to find new products to market for the HP 200LX.

If by chance you are not receiving our 200LX catalog -- we sent the latest
one out 2 weeks ago, please email me and I'll make sure you get one.
Everything in the catalog can be found (and purchased from)
www.palmtoppaper.com.

Thanks for everyone's support these years.

Hal Goldstein
President
Thaddeus Computing

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:28:40 -0700
Reply-To:     Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@eng.sun.com>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ron Zhang <Ron.Zhang@ENG.SUN.COM>
Subject:      Re: SyncTalk and the HP200LX
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii

I greatly appreciate your efforts in pushing them to support our HP200LX.
If a petition of some sort is what it takes for them to get into action,
I'll be the first one to sign my name:-)

Ron

>Date:    Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:12:36 -0700
>From:    Joseph Buford <Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM>
>Subject: Re: SyncTalk and the HP200LX
>
>Rx this from Domingo in response to my msg to SyncTalk. He posted this to
>the list (per his address line) however, it was not on the digest I rx
from
>yesterday, so I am forwarding this to the list. My response to this msg
was
>posted to the list yesterday as the 2nd "Re: SyncTalk and the HP200LX"
msg.
>Unfortunatly , out of context. Hope this clears this issue up. Looks like
>there still is hope.
>
>Joe

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:16:20 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Systems-Consulting <systems-consulting@HOME.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Systems-Consulting <systems-consulting@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: SyncTalk and the HP200LX
In-Reply-To:  <200008031828.LAA07335@homeworld.Eng.Sun.COM>
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<<If a petition of some sort is what it takes for them to get into action,
  I'll be the first one to sign my name:-) >>

Add me to the list of those willing to support this effort.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:48:53 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Comments:     RFC822 error: <W> Incorrect or incomplete address field found and
              ignored.
From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: I dont get any News from the list.
Comments: To: Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Tomas Moberg wrote:
> Is there someting wrong with the news list? I have not gotten any new messages for a while.

Do you follow the list via email or as a newsgroup?  The email is
working fine but the list via newsgroup has had several problems since
it was first started and might be having some again.  The ng problems
made me switch back to email for reliable communication.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:05:26 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: SyncTalk and the HP200LX
Comments: To: "Ryan Walcott (E-mail)" <rwalcott@sodeog.com>
Comments: cc: "Mack Baggette (E-mail)" <mack@times2tech.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Ryan,

I, of course, remember speaking to you at the NY April Pocket PC launch.  We
spoke of creating an HP 200LX end to your product.  You may recall that I
mentioned that we could market the product  and that Mack Baggette would
likely be willing to help on the HP 200LX end of the code. Mack has written
a number of software drivers for the HP 200LX for products we sell at
www.palmtoppaper.com.

Your email below was posted on the HPLX-L mail list and there seems a
reasonable interest.  In truth the potential sales won't be worth a
significant investment of time from your staff. However, with Mack's help,
if you provide him with specs, it may not involve much time from your end.
Mack is incredibly knowledgeable. The result will be additional publicity
for your product, and additional sales.

I have copied both Mack and the HPLX Mailing list.  If you wish to pursue,
please correspond with Mack and copy me.

Thanks much.

Hal Goldstein
President
Thaddeus Computing, Publisher of
Pocket PC magazine (Windows CE) and The HP Palmtop Paper ONLINE
110 N. Court St.
Fairfield, IA 52556
1-641-472-6330, fax: 1-641-472-1879
www.thaddeus.com, email: hal@thaddeus.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Buford mailto:Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 8:15 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: SyncTalk and the HP200LX


Recived this from SyncTalk. Seems to leave open the possability of support
for the 200lx in communicating with other palm type platforms.

Joe
---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on
08/02/2000 05:59 AM ---------------------------


Ryan Walcott <rwalcott@SoDeog.com> on 08/01/2000 09:21:36 AM

To:    Joseph.Buford@HSC.com, ddvteach@JUNO.COM
cc:

Subject:  RE: SyncTalk and the HP200LX


Joseph and Domingo,

Please accept my sincere apologies for the errors in our responses to your
user community.  Our core technology team is very aware of the HP200LX and
in the past did consider porting the software to the platform.  Our
constraint was that we did not have enough developers to cover the 200LX
and
the other operating systems we currently cover.

We respect the 200LX user community and will again take a look at how we
can
support it.  Another technical hurdle we face is that our code is optimized
for C++ environments and 32bit operating systems.  We must consider all of
these issues.  I know you aren't concerned with excuses, but I wanted to
articulate for you our real issues and constraints.

I spoke with Hal Goldstein at the PocketPC launch in New York about
outsourcing the port of SyncTalk.  This is another avenue we will continue
to explore.

Again accept my sincere apologies and let me know if you have any further
questions or suggestions you would like to discuss.

Thanks,

Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph.Buford@HSC.com mailto:Joseph.Buford@HSC.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:23 AM
To: jcrimm@SoDeog.com; info@SoDeog.com; mmerchant@crescentpr.com;
HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: SyncTalk and the HP200LX


HPLX'ers,
First, let me apologize to the HPLX-L List for the possible WASTE of
bandwidth, but I cannot let this drop!!!

Mr. Crimm,
<snip>

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From:         Peter Hayes <pedroh@BTINTERNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fluff HP Joke
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:50:06 -0700,Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
wrote:

> Ken London wrote:
> >DAILY JOKE:  Good Advice
> >An actual tip from page 16 of the HP "Environmental, Health & Safety =
Handbook for Employees:
> >"Blink your eyelids periodically to lubricate your eyes."
>=20
> I once saw (first hand) in an HP manual to one of their measuring
> instruments, which comes with a little magnifying glass to manipulate
> small parts, something like "Warning: do not view the sun through the
> magnifying glass."

I guess HP put it in there so as to cover themselves should some idiot
actually try and view the sun through it, get blinded then sue - a
consequence of the litigeous society we live in.

Peter,

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:25:56 +1000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX v2.2 proxy server problems
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Jeremy,

Is this something to do with the user agents that the proxy server
will send stuff on to? For about the last month I've had a similar
problem viewing anything on the net using www/lx (it just gives a blank
page) but can still view files on my palmtop. I'm sure there was some
mention of this a few months ago but I can't track it down now (I was
just about to post a message about it). I think the gist of it was
that the user agent name that HV uses may not be recognised as valid
by the proxy server.

I was reading through the documentation for the lynx web browser and it
mentioned how the user agent name can be changed in lynx if it is not
recognised or rejected. With my ISP I can still use netscape but not
lynx or HV. I haven't tried changing the user agent name for lynx yet.

Paul Johnson.

Jeremy Martinson wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm trying to get my existing www/lx setup to work with our University's
> dialup facility and I'm having trouble. We have to use a proxy server, but
> when I put that address and port number into the HTTP_Proxy setting in
> WWW.CFG I get a blank screen when I try to access the net. If I use my CIS
> account and remove the proxy server settings, everything is hunky-dory. If I
> access the University machine without setting the proxy server, I can access
> local pages just fine, but not anything further away (this is what should
> happen). It's only when I try to set HTTP_Proxy that I have problems.
>
> I've just wasted the best part of this afternoon on this and I'd be very
> grateful for any advice. Our University IT dept can't cope with anything
> that doesn't run Windoze, and I think I've taken them to the limits of their
> knowledge.
>
> cheers
>
> Jeremy
>
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>

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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:57:12 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, freeway@UIA.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         "T. McCoy" <freeway@UIA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Palmtop Paper Moving to Web
Comments: To: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <B0AB4DD57CD5D1118A230060975A100549A35C@mailhost.thaddeus.c om>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Haven't received mine yet.

T. McCoy
17373 Pine Ave
Fontana CA 92335

At 01:08 PM 8/3/00 -0500, you wrote:
>If by chance you are not receiving our 200LX catalog -- we sent the
>latest one out 2 weeks ago, please email me and I'll make sure you
>get one.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:29:28 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
Subject:      Is news.hplx.net server down ?
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Seems like the news://news.hplx.net/list.hplx server is down over the past
few days.  No new messages, though I continue to get my feed in Digest mode.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:04:44 +0930
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Peter.Caldwell@NT.GOV.AU
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Peter Caldwell <Peter.Caldwell@NT.GOV.AU>
Subject:      Re: Palmtop Paper Moving to Web
Comments: To: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hal and fellow List members

As a long time PTP subscriber (sometimes through my company) and user of your
services, software etc, I see this decision to move to the WEB and the news
about the 4000 HP200LX palmtops from Holland as the most encouraging news since
we first heard of HP's short-sighted decision to discontinue production. On the
Dutch palmtops, I hope you can get even the damaged ones, as spares.

I'm even willing to forgo the balance of my PTP print subscription as a gesture
of support, as long as my PTP disk subscription continues (even here, I'd be
happy to get the software online, rather than on disk, if that saves
PTP/Thaddeus money that you use to continue your great support for our
palmtops).

Long may you reign! Long live the HP200LX Palmtop!

Peter Caldwell, Principal Adviser, Northern Territory Treasury, Phone (08) 8999
7087  Fax (08) 8999 7150

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:29:43 +0930
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Peter.Caldwell@NT.GOV.AU
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Peter Caldwell <Peter.Caldwell@NT.GOV.AU>
Subject:      Re: Is news.hplx.net server down ?
Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Al Kind, Teo Soon Beck, Tomas and all

Since I resubscribed earlier this week, after failing to be able to renew my
subscription, I've had the contrary outcome - I want to get this great List in
Digest form, but only get it as individual e:mail messages.  Tomas and I think
others also seem to be having problems.

Peter Caldwell, Principal Adviser, Northern Territory Treasury, Phone (08) 8999
7087  Fax (08) 8999 7150

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:45:58 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
Subject:      Re: I dont get any News from the list
Comments: cc: Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Tomas,

You are not getting any News, as your subscription is through the news
server at news://news.hplx.net/list.hplx, which appears to be down
currently.  My news reader also read the high message number as
21903.   Hope that the news server is up soon.

In the meantime, you can read the recent messages in the Digest archive at
http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/hypermail/digest/index.html

 >Date:    Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:35:38 +0200
 >From:    Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
 >Subject: Re: I dont get any News from the list.
 >
 >I dont think I have made any errous configuration. It just suddenly
 >stoped to work. When I retrive -20 messages I still end up at 21903 as
 >the highest number.
 >I dont eaven get these messages that I write now.
 >

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:59:32 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
Subject:      Re: How to change to Digest mode
Comments: cc: Peter.Caldwell@nt.gov.au
In-Reply-To:  <OF28E487D2.A6026B42-ON69256931.000AA382@emag.nt.gov.au>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

 >Since I resubscribed earlier this week, after failing to be able to renew my
 >subscription, I've had the contrary outcome - I want to get this great
List in
 >Digest form, but only get it as individual e:mail messages.
 >

You can switch to Digest mode by sending an email addressed to

LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

and in the body of the message, type

SET HPLX-L DIGests

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:07:54 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
Subject:      Re: How to change to another email address
Comments: cc: Peter.Caldwell@nt.gov.au
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

 >active.  However, I (and others) have had problems with renewing, in my case
 >because my e:mail client - Lotus Notes as set up by my employer - has
 >changed my
 >e:mail address.  I've had to subscribe rather than renew my subscription.
 >

If by "renewing" you mean to change your subscription from one email
address to another, you can do that by sending an email to

LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

and type in the body of your message

CHange HPLX newaddr

Specify your new email address at newaddr

This command should be sent from your old email address.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:39:23 +0930
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Peter.Caldwell@NT.GOV.AU
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Peter Caldwell <Peter.Caldwell@NT.GOV.AU>
Subject:      Re: How to change to Digest mode
Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Teo Soon Bock

Thank you - I'm sure the info was in the FAQ, but your advice certainly worked.

FYI, I've been a List member, but mainly a lurker, since about the beginning.  I
used to read all CompuServe HP HAND messages as well.  I'm still a keen user of
the HP200LX, owning two, one since 1994 (upgraded to 5MB and 2X speed in 1998 by
Mack, repaired by Hal/PTP/Thaddeus in 1999)) and the other since 1998 (upgraded
to 64MB and 2X by Hal/PTP/Thaddeus).  I rarely however send mail to the List.

Peter Caldwell, Principal Adviser, Northern Territory Treasury, Phone (08) 8999
7087  Fax (08) 8999 7150



                    Teo Soon Bock
                    <teosb@POST1.COM        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
                    >                       cc:
                    Sent by: HPLX           Subject:     Re: How to change to Digest mode
                    Mailing List
                    <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.
                    UCONN.EDU>


                    04/08/00 02:29
                    PM
                    Please respond
                    to HPLX Mailing
                    List; Please
                    respond to Teo
                    Soon Bock





 >Since I resubscribed earlier this week, after failing to be able to renew my
 >subscription, I've had the contrary outcome - I want to get this great
List in
 >Digest form, but only get it as individual e:mail messages.
 >

You can switch to Digest mode by sending an email addressed to

LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

and in the body of the message, type

SET HPLX-L DIGests

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:15:17 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              John Berling <JBerling@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         John Berling <JBerling@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Lost function key selection in Sci Calculator(Sin,Cos, Pi etc)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi, Liam
  You wrote:
  >>Went to use the scientific (or Math) calculator today
and lower functions were all blank - i.e. no Pi, sin
cos etc.<<
  Try this:
  Push MENU, OPTIONS, STARTUP APPS and use arrows to get to MATH. It soun=
ds to me like you accidentally got your startup app set to CUSTOM which m=
ay be empty.
  Hope this helps.
  John

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:23:20 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, jorgen@PALMTOP.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fluff HP Joke
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

These types of interesting instructions can be found with many
different products. I have a Ruger 45 Colt revolver, and on the barrel
it's stated that the user must read the manual before usage! Ruger added
this on the barrel after being sued by the family of a person which
used a Ruger revolver for committing suicide (it was in US...).

Regards,

Jorgen

> Ken London wrote:
> >DAILY JOKE:  Good Advice
> >An actual tip from page 16 of the HP "Environmental, Health & Safety =
Handbook for Employees:
> >"Blink your eyelids periodically to lubricate your eyes."
>
> I once saw (first hand) in an HP manual to one of their measuring
> instruments, which comes with a little magnifying glass to manipulate
> small parts, something like "Warning: do not view the sun through the
> magnifying glass."

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:23:23 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, jorgen@PALMTOP.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX v2.2 proxy server problems
Comments: To: Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

I have also the same problem and I must use a proxy server since I live
in Singapore. Earlier versions of WWW/LX was ok. So if anyone has a
solution for this, please let us know.

Regards,

Jorgen


> Hi Jeremy,
>
> Is this something to do with the user agents that the proxy server
> will send stuff on to? For about the last month I've had a similar
> problem viewing anything on the net using www/lx (it just gives a blank
> page) but can still view files on my palmtop. I'm sure there was some
> mention of this a few months ago but I can't track it down now (I was
> just about to post a message about it). I think the gist of it was
> that the user agent name that HV uses may not be recognised as valid
> by the proxy server.
>
> I was reading through the documentation for the lynx web browser and it
> mentioned how the user agent name can be changed in lynx if it is not
> recognised or rejected. With my ISP I can still use netscape but not
> lynx or HV. I haven't tried changing the user agent name for lynx yet.
>
> Paul Johnson.
>
> Jeremy Martinson wrote:

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 07:35:35 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Joseph Buford <Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM>
Comments: cc: hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM, mack@times2tech.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hal,

Thanks for picking up the ball on this. I believe that you and Mack are two
of the biggest reasons that the 200lx has had the longevity that is the
envy of ALL computing devices. When did the 95lx come out? I've had my
100lx (then 200lx) since at least 1992-3 (memory going.....can't remember
before that...:-)

Joe

>Date:    Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:05:26 -0500
>From:    Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
>Subject: Re: SyncTalk and the HP200LX

>Hi Ryan,

>I, of course, remember speaking to you at the NY April Pocket PC launch.
We
>spoke of creating an HP 200LX end to your product.  You may recall that I
>mentioned that we could market the product  and that Mack Baggette would
>likely be willing to help on the HP 200LX end of the code. Mack has
written
>a number of software drivers for the HP 200LX for products we sell at
>www.palmtoppaper.com.
>
>Your email below was posted on the HPLX-L mail list and there seems a
>reasonable interest.  In truth the potential sales won't be worth a
>significant investment of time from your staff. However, with Mack's help,
>if you provide him with specs, it may not involve much time from your end.
>Mack is incredibly knowledgeable. The result will be additional publicity
>for your product, and additional sales.
>
>I have copied both Mack and the HPLX Mailing list.  If you wish to pursue,
>please correspond with Mack and copy me.
>
>Thanks much.
>
>Hal Goldstein
>President
>Thaddeus Computing, Publisher of
>Pocket PC magazine (Windows CE) and The HP Palmtop Paper ONLINE
>110 N. Court St.
>Fairfield, IA 52556
>1-641-472-6330, fax: 1-641-472-1879
>www.thaddeus.com, email: hal@thaddeus.com

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:55:27 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<< When did the 95lx come out?>>

May 1991.  Our first Palmtop Paper came out Fall 1991.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:33:01 -0700
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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      FLUFF: Non LX-Related request for help from those electronically
              skilled!
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FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF

Okay, now that i warned everyone, here's what i'm trying to do:

I need help with a little project. I'm no good electronically (compared to others on this list), so I'm hoping either I can
"outsource" this or have someone help me lay the plan out to do it myself easily with "Radio Shack" parts. The project is
this:

Two small boxes, connected by a 3' wire. One box (or not box if none is necessary) has 1-2 bright (possibly blue) LED, the
other box has a switch, batteries and circuit. Led is always lit (until batteries die) When switch is in one position, led
should be blinking, when in the other position, led should simply be lit (not blink). Constraints: lifetime should be at
least 48 hours, if possible light sensor could turn off circuit during the day, must be waterproof and relatively
tamperproof (except with screwdriver), should be around 10$ per unit (if possible).

I'm looking for about 10 of these units.

Anyone could help? I'm guessing the tough part is the blinking...

Please reply privately!

Thanks!

Philippe

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:47:30 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
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Comments:     RFC822 error: <W> Incorrect or incomplete address field found and
              ignored.
From:         Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: SyncTalk and the HP200LX
Comments: To: Systems-Consulting <systems-consulting@HOME.COM>
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:16:20 -0400, Systems-Consulting
<systems-consulting@HOME.COM> wrote:

Add me also to the list of those willing to support this effort.

> Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
> 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
> tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
> web: http://Systems-Consulting.com
> Maximizing the results of Information Systems
__________________________________________
    o__       Harry Wellner
   _.>/)_     Gouda - Netherlands / Europe
  (_) \(_)

Palmtop Power!--This email composed on a rugged HP200LX that
fits in your pocket!

Med vennlig hilsen / Regards /
        Mit freundlichen Gruessen /
                 Met vriendelijke groeten

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:47:33 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
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From:         Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
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Hal,

Please register me for another subscription renewal despite
the fact that I shall not receive any magazines anymore.

Consider this suggestion as my "thank you"

Harry Wellner (from Holland - missing the chat-to-chat with
the conductors now ....... all HP Jornada's around me....)



On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:04:44 +0930, Peter Caldwell
<Peter.Caldwell@NT.GOV.AU> wrote:

PePeter Caldwell wrote..:
> Hal and fellow List members
>
> As a long time PTP subscriber (sometimes through my company) and user of your
> services, software etc, I see this decision to move to the WEB and the news
> about the 4000 HP200LX palmtops from Holland as the most encouraging news since
> we first heard of HP's short-sighted decision to discontinue production. On the
> Dutch palmtops, I hope you can get even the damaged ones, as spares.
>
> I'm even willing to forgo the balance of my PTP print subscription as a gesture
> of support, as long as my PTP disk subscription continues (even here, I'd be
> happy to get the software online, rather than on disk, if that saves
> PTP/Thaddeus money that you use to continue your great support for our
> palmtops).
>
> Long may you reign! Long live the HP200LX Palmtop!
>
> Peter Caldwell, Principal Adviser, Northern Territory Treasury, Phone (08) 8999
> 7087  Fax (08) 8999 7150

__________________________________________
    o__       Harry Wellner
   _.>/)_     Gouda - Netherlands / Europe
  (_) \(_)

PePalmtop Power!--This email composed on a rugged HP200LX that
fits in your pocket!

Med vennlig hilsen / Regards /
        Mit freundlichen Gruessen /
                 Met vriendelijke groeten

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From:         Peter Hayes <pedroh@BTINTERNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Non LX-Related request for help from those
              electronically skilled!
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:33:01 -0700,Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
wrote:

> FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF
>=20
> Okay, now that i warned everyone, here's what i'm trying to do:
>=20
> I need help with a little project. I'm no good electronically (compared=
 to others on this list), so I'm hoping either I can
> "outsource" this or have someone help me lay the plan out to do it =
myself easily with "Radio Shack" parts. The project is
> this:
>=20
> Two small boxes, connected by a 3' wire. One box (or not box if none is=
 necessary) has 1-2 bright (possibly blue) LED, the
> other box has a switch, batteries and circuit. Led is always lit (until=
 batteries die) When switch is in one position, led
> should be blinking, when in the other position, led should simply be =
lit (not blink). Constraints: lifetime should be at
> least 48 hours, if possible light sensor could turn off circuit during =
the day, must be waterproof and relatively
> tamperproof (except with screwdriver), should be around 10$ per unit =
(if possible).
>=20
> I'm looking for about 10 of these units.
>=20
> Anyone could help? I'm guessing the tough part is the blinking...

The tough bit will be the waterproofing...

Peter,
--=20

Microsoft:   This company has performed an illegal operation
                     and will be shut down.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:52:17 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

From Harry Wellner

<<Please register me for another subscription renewal despite
the fact that I shall not receive any magazines anymore.>>

Should I charge overseas freight<g>.  Thank you VERY much. However, somehow
it doesn't feel right after we publicly cancelled, so if you don't mind,
I'll pass on your generous offer.

For those who chose not to ask for a refund or use your coupon, I do thank
you.  However, feel free to use your coupon.

Harry, I really appreciate all your "inside" information as a passenger on
the Dutch railway.  Your comment that the Dutch logo looked good, reassured
me as it took a number of months before we received a sample.

By the way the first 525 palmtops will arrive Monday. We have to test,
clean, and upgrade them. They have all been sold and will be sent starting
the end of the week to all the pre-orders and to a few volume sales.

The next batch will start to be sent out on a first come first served basis
the week of Aug 21.  By mid-September we should be all caught up and ship a
day or 2 after we receive the order.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:11:01 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:14:26 -0700, Reed Kennedy <TINYTREE@WORLDSHARE.NET> wrote:

>.  It was
> cool, none the less.  Argueably, the fact that it included a temperature
> sensor was a fairly good metaphore for the newton, and why it failed.  Very
> cool, but unuseable, and over-featured.

If I enable Netmonitor on my Nokia 7110 cellphone. I can use it as a
thermometer. In menu 20 it says how hot/cold the battery is.

Can not be used for anything else than "wow effect" :-))

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:30:05 EDT
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From:         Bill Krauss <Bk361kb@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sending SMS via email?
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In a message dated 7/30/00 4:43:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE writes:

<< http://www.halebop.com >>

Tomas:
Your post on : http://www.halebop.com, caught my eye.  :-)   However, my eye
only understands English. :-(    Do U know if there is anyway to get the info
such that I could understand it?
TIA
Bill

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Date:         Sat, 5 Aug 2000 05:56:26 +0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Aries Dharmawan <aries@DNET.NET.ID>
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From:         Aries Dharmawan <aries@DNET.NET.ID>
Subject:      Re: 200 LX for Portable Packet radio
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Dear All ,

Many thank to all of you which give me lots of alternatives and respons.
Now i can contact my local gateway via packet radio.

Regards

Aries D
YC0CBO - OI33KU

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:02:21 -0700
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From:         "francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com" <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Handspring Visor Envy
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Folks,

I was working today and saw a Handspring Visor in action. I
was hit with envy at once.

I rolled on scene to pickup a client, methadone plus rxs,
and the callers (two uniformed "Downtown Clean & Safe"
officers) said we needed to wait for Portland police officer
Perry to do the exclude (drug free zone exclusion process).

When he arrived he had a Visor with an "Eyemodule" (A
digital camera addon for the visor). Two minutes and he had
good clear photos that not only can be used at once bt can
be placed into the ID program for every officer with only a
simple transfer.


Wonderful. I was hit with total envy. So I now find myself
what other HPLXers are using.

What cameras what software, etc.

Patrick West

__________________________________________________
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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:53:49 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <drummond@NET1.NET>
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From:         Phil Drummond <drummond@NET1.NET>
Subject:      Re: Handspring Visor Envy

Here's another Visor sighting...

While on regular PM, I found another tech working on one of his company's
transmitters (paging), he was using his Visor camera to snap pictures of
the waveforms displayed on his communications test set.

After a brief "show me yours, I'll show you mine" (I have a 200LX and a TRG
Pro), he proceeded to use a modem  to send the images back to his boss.

I'm not too impressed, I would have directly attached my 200lx or my TRG
Pro to his test set and captured the print-file output of the same screen
using Datacom or pTelnet (on the TRG Pro).  Someone back at the office
could then import the HP printer formatted image into a graphics program
for examination and printing... or simply copied the file to an HP printer.

What I was impressed with was how quickly the nature of his Visor could
change from a PIM / data-entry device to a camera and back.  I know there
is a camera for the Palm handhelds (better resolution, but slower) but I
wish there was a camera for my 200lx.

I won the day however, when I showed him how to use his Visor to connect
directly to his transmitter and monitor the statistics without using a big
'ol clunky laptop.

The Visor is "ok" but if you are considering a "Palm" type device to
supplement your 200lx, consider that the TRG Pro can use Compact Flash and
so can your 200lx.  The TRG Pro "speaks" FAT 16, but can't run DOS
programs.

Phil

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From:   francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com
Sent:   Friday, August 04, 2000 8:02 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Handspring Visor Envy

Folks,

I was working today and saw a Handspring Visor in action. I
was hit with envy at once.

<carefull snip of great story>

Wonderful. I was hit with total envy. So I now find myself
what other HPLXers are using.

What cameras what software, etc.

Patrick West

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Date:         Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:58:03 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
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From:         Ace Frehley <alaskan@V-WAVE.COM>
Subject:      Mini GPS!
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Check this out!

It is some mean piece of machinery...

http://www.pharosgps.com/

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Date:         Sat, 5 Aug 2000 00:12:00 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <drummond@NET1.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Phil Drummond <drummond@NET1.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mini GPS!

Looks good... way too much current draw for operation without an external power supply.
It would be great for use in a car, lotsa power there.  :)

Phil

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From:   Ace Frehley
Sent:   Friday, August 04, 2000 11:58 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Mini GPS!

Check this out!

It is some mean piece of machinery...

http://www.pharosgps.com/

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Date:         Sat, 5 Aug 2000 01:47:52 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: 200LX crash
Comments: To: Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
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Mark, Sorry about the crash. I've had similar "meltdowns" and
I think I know how badly you must feel.

Mark Shields wrote:
> I had a very
> hard time rebooting, either with CTRL-ALT-DEL or with
> CTRL-LEFT SHIFT-ON. It would often lock up and give me a divide
> overflow error, or show garbage on the screen. This was probably
> because of the trashed config.sys file, which showed as pure
> garbage when I tried to TYPE it (type config.sys).

You asked for some thoughts on the issue. I believe the
difficulty in rebooting was PRECISELY the bad CONFIG.SYS and
possibly the AUTOEXEC.BAT. And moreoever, it is likely that if
you have a double speed machine with extra memory, the drivers
were royally trashed!

The way to recover from such a disaster is to press the boot
keys (cold or warm) then immediately press the Alt key.

That brings you a menu of 7 possibilities which detail where
to find the boot files (CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT) Remember,
you have on ROM in D drive an unalterable copy of both. These
will at least get you up and going, and you can then modify
the CONFIG.SYS and add the drivers (after restoring them from
a good copy) to the CONFIG.SYS and reboot.

The ALT key menu provides for booting from A: drive, D: or C:,
and for each source, whether to process the CONFIG.SYS and
autoexec.bat or not.

One thing you can create is a "Rescue PCMCIA". On its root
directory put a good CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT, and whatever
drivers you need. Then you reboot, press Alt, then select A:
as the boot drive, and process the boot files, and that puts
you back in business too.

Now you can deal with the mess on the C: drive etc.

In the past few weeks I have had several "meltdowns" and
several friends did too. I walked them through the process
enough times to become an expert. Then it happened to me, too,
and I talked myself through it and was up in 5 minutes,
although restoration of programs and other content took much
more time, of course.

BTW, the "rescue disk" is really not good to use for anything
else, because if you just reboot normally, the palmtop's
default sequence is to look for boot files on A: then C:, then
D:. Wherever they are found, they are processed. Some people
got wise to that and moved the boot files to a subdirectory on
that rescue disk, but that meant they could not use it as a
boot drive anymore, and when away from a PCMCIA drive, you
cannot move the file back to the root of the rescue disk.
Sense that Catch-22? <G>...

If you can get a hold of cheap 1 or 2 MB ATA card, it is ideal
- just put the absolute necessary stuff there and carry the
rescue card with you...

Anyway, just my $0.02... Hope this helps... Good luck on
recovery.

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Does anyone know if software is available to connect the Nokia 7110 to
the HP200LX? Cable or IR, tho' I doubt IR will be possible.

Thanks

Chris

Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:14:26 -0700, Reed Kennedy <TINYTREE@WORLDSHARE.NET> wrote:
>
> >.  It was
> > cool, none the less.  Argueably, the fact that it included a temperature
> > sensor was a fairly good metaphore for the newton, and why it failed.  Very
> > cool, but unuseable, and over-featured.
>
> If I enable Netmonitor on my Nokia 7110 cellphone. I can use it as a
> thermometer. In menu 20 it says how hot/cold the battery is.
>
> Can not be used for anything else than "wow effect" :-))
>
> Regards
>
> --
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>
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Subject:      Re: Handspring Visor Envy

   >I was working today and saw a Handspring Visor in action. I
   >was hit with envy at once.
Message-Id: <20000805073959.FNDA7678.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@12.72.155.160>
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 07:40:05 +0000

   >When he arrived he had a Visor with an "Eyemodule" (A
   >digital camera addon for the visor). Two minutes and he had
   >good clear photos that not only can be used at once bt can
   >be placed into the ID program for every officer with only a
   >simple transfer.
   >Wonderful. I was hit with total envy. So I now find myself
   >what other HPLXers are using.
   >What cameras what software, etc.

No doubt that one of the things that GUI computers will always do well is
imaging.

The last I heard, the Visor camera was only B/W, while the Palm version is
color.  Both probably pale next to most low end digital cameras, including
my Canon A50 whose CF based files are easily read by the LX and emailed
to hapless relatives and friends via old NetTamer 1.08pt.

Having been a big pen computer user before the 200LX (PenExec and Zoomer),
I've no doubt that there's a Visor or Pilot type computer in my future, but
not for the photo thing... a real camera just does that so mych better.
Even the tiny (but sharp) digital display on a camera surpasses the mono
screen on the LX (and probably the Visor). And most digicams allow you
to share your photos with others via a cable to a TV set, which I'm not
sure if the Visor can do (bravo if it can).

Quick and easy photos of marginal quality will always have their uses, and
I like the comcept of a device that records data, images and sound (many
high end digicams can do motion with sound as well as photos, so it's not
like it's far away).

The Visor/Pilot thing sounds neat, but I think I'd ask more of a camera
than images that are clear on my palmtop but possibly an embarassment to
share (unless you like an album of mug shots and crime photos).

Wow is nice, but once you get past the sauce, sometimes you grumble when
you wonder where's the beef?

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Longden Loo wrote:
> my Canon A50 whose CF based files are easily read by the LX and emailed
> to hapless relatives and friends via old NetTamer 1.08pt.
So waht type of pricetag does the Canon A50 carry?
Patrick West

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On 5 Aug 2000, at 0:57, francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com wrote:

> Longden Loo wrote:
> > my Canon A50 whose CF based files are easily read by the LX and
> > emailed to hapless relatives and friends via old NetTamer 1.08pt.

> So waht type of pricetag does the Canon A50 carry?

I paid $199 for it at Office Max last month when they were clearing
them out (on a tip from a list member).  Most places that have
them are selling them at about $300, but there's a lot of pressure to
drop prices (esp on discontinued cameras) as newer models enter
the scene.

Most digicams depreciate in value significantly about 6 months
after their introduction, but you'll probably not see the same kind of
reduction for the Visor and Palm cameras since they're specialty
items and have no real competition (except from each other).

Rather than pay for an expensive add-on, I guess I prefer to settle
for a cheaper (but more capable) peripheral.  A different strokes
thing.

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I've been following the threads regarding wince machines, Jornadas et. al.,
after reading William Quinlan's article, "The King is Dead...Long Live the
King." in The HP Palmtop Paper, 11/12/99.  As he notes, the inability to
manipulate databases was a limitation of the XT-CE program that was to be
corrected by it's author, Ian Dean.

I sent the following email to Ian Dean regarding the only limitation of this
fabulous DOS emulator for wince machines (that pertains to MY daily use):

> When the HP Palmtop Paper reviewed your wonderful program, they noted:
>
> "The databases are readable but can't be changed on a WIN CE machine. The
> developer of XT-CE, Ian Dean, is diligently working on this problem."
>
> I decided to wait a few months before asking you whether XT-CE can read HPLX
> databases yet?

His reply:

"Al,

I'm releasing a new version in the next 2-3 weeks that should resolve this
problem.

Ian Dean"

For some, this may be the time to switch!
Comments?

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Date:         Sun, 6 Aug 2000 01:27:20 +1200
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Hi Partick

I may be missing your point here but with a Kodac DC20 + 200LX +
CelModem & Startac several list members have been photographing
(admitedly at low res.) and emailing from anywhere since
1997-ish : sure that serial transfer was slow and there were
messy wires but mine were cut down to be less than 6" to camera
and Ph

Now I use a Canon S100 Digital Elph/Ixus and simply put the CF 1
card in the 200lx (PC Card adaptor) for photo transfer - only
one less wire but severely improved photo quality from such a
small camera with zoom (and rarely email these days as the good
images are 600Kb each)

How about this for a seriously small digital camera?
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0007/00072601sonyminidigicam.asp
It wont be long before palmtops have the camera built in along
with cellular phone, radio and TV receiver.

cheers
John

Patrick West wrote:

> what cameras what software, etc other HPLXers are using?

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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(8) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

Name brand Sandisks,
(4) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks are available as well.
One (1) $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $70.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

I also some  PCMCIA protectors which are a thick padded leather pouch
with a strong Velcro seal.

(1) for $4.00
(3) or more only $3.00 a piece plus $2.00 for shipping and packaging

(2) 133MHZ Pentium Processors    $15.00 a piece plus $2.00 for shipping
and packaging.

(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
my address at:

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20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks the very next day unless I receive your payment
on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded
envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just terrific and the
people I have worked with have been just Great!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Patrick,

re<snipped>:
>  what other HPLXers are using.

An 8 meg. Visor, *duct-taped* to my 200LX <grin> and a Nikon CoolPix 950 --
I want to upgrade to the CoolPix 990, as it allows TOTALLY manual selection
of both aperture and shutter at least that's what I've read (rather than
shutter or aperture priority, on so many cameras), that digital Elph looks
good too. I may hold out 'til Canon releases their new, professional digital
camera body and team that up w/ my "too expensive lens collection" (that
does NOTHING good for your back or shoulder!). I still shoot a lot of
still -- the digital cameras have their uses and I can get 8x10 prints that
you'd swear came from a film-based camera ..... but.....

OK, I really don't use duct tape, but all my important stuff is on my
computer or my LX, as the visor is only a good PIM and Calendar .... well, I
do download news and books w/ the Visor now; but for portable email, data
entry, spreadsheets, etc., the LX's can't be beat.

I *tried* one of those "cool" PalmOS-based spreadsheets, w/ the Visor,
trying to start a film-price comparison sheet Sam's often does rebates, but
w/ oddly packed boxes, i.e., 4 rolls of 24 and one w/ 36 shots on it ...
other stores offer good prices on a box with ALL one number of shots, i.e.,
all rolls of 24 exp.. The "spreadsheet" left me so frustrated, I almost
sent my Visor into orbit. It couldn't do simple things that we take for
granted w/ Lotus, like "move" etc. Can't remember which spreadsheet it was
... admittedly it wasn't a commercial product - I think it was demo-ware and
I may have gotten more functionality, if I ponyed up some cash ... but I
wanted it to work, right out of the box .... Hmmm..... sounds like an LX ;-)

The camera for the Palm Pilot's got higher res. (only goes to 640x480, I
believe) and I think both cameras can do color; but I'm not going to buy
one.  A ("real") digital camera w/ a CF card gives me plenty of what I need
(and relies on sep. batteries ... I don't know if the Visor-cam draws from
its own or the LX's power supply).

As a cool LX aside: The 200LX "saved me" on my one "real" trip to Mexico. I
was "trip historian" (well, OK, I volunteered ... someone had to set up the
slide show ... might as well be digital) for my Rotary club on a liaison
visit. I ran out of "digital film" (CF cards were full); so I dumped as much
as I could on my Thaddeus-expanded LX and transferred photo files to it!
Survived the day and was able to make it to the hotel and move ALL the files
to my laptop; so I could be "loaded for bear" the next day.

HTH,

--tim

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Public Relations, Media Relations, Corporate Training
Killeen, TX
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Date:         Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:30:43 -0400
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:23:20 +0800, Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These types of interesting instructions can be found with many
> different products. I have a Ruger 45 Colt revolver, and on the barrel
> it's stated that the user must read the manual before usage! Ruger added
> this on the barrel after being sued by the family of a person which
> used a Ruger revolver for committing suicide (it was in US...).

We are way off topic now, but I guess we are okey since we got fluff in
the subject..well anyway. The cellphone I have the Nokia 7110 has a
spring loaded flip. I can pop it open as the dude in Matrix. This
feature is not on the Us model (7190). Maybe because Nokia is afraid of
being sued by crazy americans which has hurt themself with the
"hard" tension spring flip. :-))

Glad that the suing here in Norway is not as bad as the Us :-))

Regards

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Subject:      Re: Handspring Visor Envy

   >I may be missing your point here but with a Kodac DC20 + 200LX +
   >CelModem & Startac several list members have been photographing
   >(admitedly at low res.) and emailing from anywhere since
   >1997-ish : sure that serial transfer was slow and there were
   >messy wires but mine were cut down to be less than 6" to camera
Message-Id: <20000805170518.HGPJ17157.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@12.72.154.42>
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:05:23 +0000

The point I think Patrick was making was the James Bond'ish coolness
of snapping components together to make something new... ie turning
your computer into a camera.  A digicam does the job better (IMHO), but
even I'll admit that it's not an attention getter.

   >It wont be long before palmtops have the camera built in along
   >with cellular phone, radio and TV receiver.

I agree there, the melding of essential (but not optimal) information
functions into one box. Conflicting design priorities for different
functions mean a jack of all trades machine will never excel at all of
them, but it'll still be useful, maybe even (gag)... cool. <g>

- Longden

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Can Anybody tell me how I set The Ethernet FRAME TYPE
( I want ETHERNET_II)
when Using the Packet Driver software ( With  the Accton Card)
I have got the hp connecting to the Novell 4.11 servers Using VLMS
Thanks for Any Info /Comments ...

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On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 08:47:37 +0200, Chris Collingwood
<chris.collingwood@safrica.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know if software is available to connect the Nokia 7110 to
> the HP200LX? Cable or IR, tho' I doubt IR will be possible.
>
> Thanks

I use Www/lx with a Nokia 7110. It works very well for email and news.
Eventhough the Hplx has a RF noise problem it works okey.

I also use Www/lx-Post/Lx to send sms through the 7110. I use Stefan
Peichl's Pdu script, but you can also use Andreas's sms script.

I also sends a Vcard from the Hplx Phonebook:

BEGIN:VCARD
N:Name Here
TEL;WORK:
TEL;CELL:
TEL;FAX:
TEL;HOME:
TEL:
TEL;WORK:
EMAIL:
LABEL:Address here
NOTE:
END:VCARD

I use a macro that saves the phonebook entery as above and then sends
it to the 7110. I use ir.exe from Dasoft for the transfer

ir.exe oput vard.vcf (vcard.vcf is the thing above)

I will add this info in some more detail to my website. It seems that I
repeat myself here on the list. I will post the link here when I get
the time to get the website online..

Regards

--
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Date:         Sat, 5 Aug 2000 20:32:25 EDT
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In a message dated 8/5/00 1:48:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sponsor@FTEL.NET
writes:

<< If you can get a hold of cheap 1 or 2 MB ATA card, it is ideal
 - just put the absolute necessary stuff there and carry the
 rescue card with you >>

Great idea:
Anyone have any sources for this prudent "necessity"(to store config.sys,
autoexc.bat & drivers?)
Bill

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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1 or 2mb ATA cards are probably such a rarity that it may be easier/cheaper to
find a card that's a bit bigger.

I'll have to experiment on my digital camera (Canon A50).  It stores the photos
in a dedicated \DCIM directory on the CF card (I have a 32mb).  I wonder if it
could co-habit with a "rescue boot" configuration so that my camera would serve
double duty.

- Longden





Bill Krauss <Bk361kb@AOL.COM> on 08/05/2000 05:32:25 PM

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In a message dated 8/5/00 1:48:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sponsor@FTEL.NET
writes:

<< If you can get a hold of cheap 1 or 2 MB ATA card, it is ideal
 - just put the absolute necessary stuff there and carry the
 rescue card with you >>

Great idea:
Anyone have any sources for this prudent "necessity"(to store config.sys,
autoexc.bat & drivers?)
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Hey, all;  I'm looking for an HP1000CX.

Can probably make some reasonable trade of say an HP200LX with something
added like more RAM;  Let me know.

Alternately can trade other hardware or ???

  Mark

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Peter Hayes wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:33:01 -0700,Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
> wrote:
>
> > FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF
> >
> > Okay, now that i warned everyone, here's what i'm trying to do:
> >
> > I need help with a little project. I'm no good electronically (compared to others on this list), so I'm hoping either I can
> > "outsource" this or have someone help me lay the plan out to do it myself easily with "Radio Shack" parts. The project is
> > this:
> >
> > Two small boxes, connected by a 3' wire. One box (or not box if none is necessary) has 1-2 bright (possibly blue) LED, the
> > other box has a switch, batteries and circuit. Led is always lit (until batteries die) When switch is in one position, led
> > should be blinking, when in the other position, led should simply be lit (not blink). Constraints: lifetime should be at
> > least 48 hours, if possible light sensor could turn off circuit during the day, must be waterproof and relatively
> > tamperproof (except with screwdriver), should be around 10$ per unit (if possible).
> >
> > I'm looking for about 10 of these units.
> >
> > Anyone could help? I'm guessing the tough part is the blinking...
>
> The tough bit will be the waterproofing...
>
> Peter,
> --
>
> Microsoft:   This company has performed an illegal operation
>                      and will be shut down.

Good MS humor <G>

Philippe;

For RED, GREEN or YELLOW LED's, sounds like a job for an LM3909 and a
"D" cell;  An SPDT switch in the "-" line to push power to pins 1 & 8
through a small resistor, or to pin 4 (depending on position of the
switch).

For BLUE LED's, sounds like a job for a PIC microcontroller and 3-4
AAA's, or an LM555 and say a 9V cell;  An SPST switch in the "+" line to
push power to the LED directly would do with the 555, with the PIC I'd
use a diode gating method here.

National.com has data sheets for those, microchip.com for PIC (I'd use
12C508A's) datasheets.  Radio Shack has all the parts, though Mouser.com
or bgmicro.com would be cheaper.

Either option's pretty cheap, though I don't know about a "$10 each"
budget, those LED's are $3ish apiece and the cases aren't often free;
At 10 cy's you DO get a price break usually, though!

I can either tell you exactly how to make these, or make them at cost
(If you're not in a huge hurry <G>)  Cast the LEDs in 5-minute epoxy so
no box is needed for those.  Might be able to just brush same epoxy over
your other circuit, also, once it's tested and known to be working well!

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On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 19:29:19 -0700,Mark Willis
<mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET> wrote:

> Hey, all;  I'm looking for an HP1000CX.
>=20
> Can probably make some reasonable trade of say an HP200LX with =
something
> added like more RAM;  Let me know.
>=20
> Alternately can trade other hardware or ???

There's a 1000CX on ebay.com in the Computers -> Pda's -> Hewlett
Packard, about halfway down Page 2. Worldwide shipping too.

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--- Mark Willis
> Hey, all;  I'm looking for an HP1000CX.
Why wood yu want a 1000?
Just don't use the sys aps on the 200 or use Carosel for
mor mem :)

I'm still looking for a PC110 docking station.

TIA.


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There are two on ebay
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400050428>
and
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=398890279>

> On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 19:29:19 -0700,Mark Willis
> <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET> wrote:
> > Hey, all;  I'm looking for an HP1000CX.
Peter Hayes wrote:
> There's a 1000CX on ebay.com in the Computers -> Pda's -> Hewlett



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I have just returned to this list after a few months absence.

I have been using Goin' Postal on my 1 meg 100LX quite successfully.
However, I find ccLXPOP and it's use of ccMail quite intriguing.  Have
people used it successfully to access POP3 mail on "traditional" CompuServe?
If anybody has the necessary configuration, batch and Chat script files they
would be willing to share with me, I would certainly appreciate it.

TIA

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Hello to all,

Three days ago I started to try to connect my 200lx palmtop
to my desktop PC via PPP direct serial connection. My objective
if try to access some resources of the network (for instance,
telneting to other systems).

First of all, I'm more interesting to know if someone of
has set it up.

The setup of my epppd/pppd at Palmtop works fine because
in other situations I can connect to some ISP here at
Spain. The problem I think that it's on my desktop WNT4.0.

In this, I set it up the "Dial-Up Networking Serial Cable
between 2PC=B4s" (Standard Modems) at COM1 and configure "Remote
Access Services" as

Network: Dial-Out protocols - TCP/IP
         Allow Remote Clients running - TCP/IP (Set up a range of IP's)
         Allow any authentication including clear text.

After this I run:

pppd/epppd com1 9600 local with right tcp.cfg (IP address to reach PPP =20
connection, ...) =20

NO LUCK !!!

Do you have some experience with this? ...

Thanks and best reg's from Barcelona.


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Date:         Mon, 7 Aug 2000 08:42:46 GMT
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Hi,

Yes me2, I also had same old problem when connect to
local LAN connection,
(all ftp/telnet/smtp/pop is normal, expect http "Blanked")
But dialup/IR to other remote connection network
is working very well. Now I fixed that
http_proxy=3Dmyproxy value for www.cfg LAN connection.

Billy

P.S. few year ago....
I remember some said they have same problem on some ISP,
like Globelnet?.... finally, they mention change their iSP. ;)

> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:23:23 +0800
> From:    Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
> Subject: Re: WWW/LX v2.2 proxy server problems
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have also the same problem and I must use a proxy server since I live
> in Singapore. Earlier versions of WWW/LX was ok. So if anyone has a
> solution for this, please let us know.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
>  > Hi Jeremy,
>  >
>  > Is this something to do with the user agents that the proxy server
>  > will send stuff on to? For about the last month I've had a similar
>  > problem viewing anything on the net using www/lx (it just gives a =
blank
>  > page) but can still view files on my palmtop. I'm sure there was =
some
>  > mention of this a few months ago but I can't track it down now (I =
was
>  > just about to post a message about it). I think the gist of it was
>  > that the user agent name that HV uses may not be recognised as valid
>  > by the proxy server.
>  >
>  > I was reading through the documentation for the lynx web browser and =
it
>  > mentioned how the user agent name can be changed in lynx if it is =
not
>  > recognised or rejected. With my ISP I can still use netscape but not
>  > lynx or HV. I haven't tried changing the user agent name for lynx =
yet.
>  >
>  > Paul Johnson.
>  >
>  > Jeremy Martinson wrote:
>
> ------------------------------

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Date:         Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:48:47 +1000
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              Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
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This is exactly what I have done with the 8MB compactflash card that
came with a Canon A50. So far it hasn't caused any problems with the
camera.

Just make sure you don't do what I did and not thoroughly check that
the paths in config.sys and autoexec.bat on your CF rescue card all
point to locations ON the CF rescue card (don't just copy your files
over to the CF). When my doublespeed 64MB 200LX crashed I rebooted
with the 8MB card expecting that to get it functioning properly. But
it still had the scrambled screen ! So after a bit of reading the
instructions I realised my mistake and managed to get it going
properly again. But it took alot longer than if I had done things
properly the first time.

Paul Johnson.


Longden Loo wrote:
> 1 or 2mb ATA cards are probably such a rarity that it may be easier/cheaper to
> find a card that's a bit bigger.
>
> I'll have to experiment on my digital camera (Canon A50).  It stores the photos
> in a dedicated \DCIM directory on the CF card (I have a 32mb).  I wonder if it
> could co-habit with a "rescue boot" configuration so that my camera would serve
> double duty.
>
> - Longden
>
>

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              Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
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How does one change from digest mode back to regular, message
mode? Thanks.


  Bob

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Something stands out in the following information - you set your WinNT bo=
x
to have dial-out services enabled - shouldn't that be dial-in?

You are attempting to establish the link from the HP LX machine into the
WinNT box, right? THe way I read your info you have configured your COM1
port to dial into your HP LX.

I hope this helps, it is only speculation, as I have no exp. with WinNT
direct connect PPP.

Ken

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:18 AM
Subject: WNT40: Set up direct serial PPP connection


Hello to all,

Three days ago I started to try to connect my 200lx palmtop
to my desktop PC via PPP direct serial connection. My objective
if try to access some resources of the network (for instance,
telneting to other systems).

First of all, I'm more interesting to know if someone of
has set it up.

The setup of my epppd/pppd at Palmtop works fine because
in other situations I can connect to some ISP here at
Spain. The problem I think that it's on my desktop WNT4.0.

In this, I set it up the "Dial-Up Networking Serial Cable
between 2PC=B4s" (Standard Modems) at COM1 and configure "Remote
Access Services" as

Network: Dial-Out protocols - TCP/IP
         Allow Remote Clients running - TCP/IP (Set up a range of IP's)
         Allow any authentication including clear text.

After this I run:

pppd/epppd com1 9600 local with right tcp.cfg (IP address to reach PPP
connection, ...)

NO LUCK !!!

Do you have some experience with this? ...

Thanks and best reg's from Barcelona.


Fernando Ruiz.

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Thanks.  I'll try that when I've a chance to backup my camera's CF card.

The nice thing is that I should be able to overlay the essential boot stuff for
the LX on top of the existing file system (ie, I don't have to reformat) since
the boot strap loader is already on LX ROM.  None of the boot files for the LX
normally found on the card need be in any special physical location.

I'm usually pretty careful about checking out the configuration.  A disaster
plan shouldn't get its first test in a real disaster <g>.

- Longden





Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU> on 08/07/2000 01:48:47 AM

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Subject:  Re: 200LX crash



This is exactly what I have done with the 8MB compactflash card that
came with a Canon A50. So far it hasn't caused any problems with the
camera.

Just make sure you don't do what I did and not thoroughly check that
the paths in config.sys and autoexec.bat on your CF rescue card all
point to locations ON the CF rescue card (don't just copy your files
over to the CF). When my doublespeed 64MB 200LX crashed I rebooted
with the 8MB card expecting that to get it functioning properly. But
it still had the scrambled screen ! So after a bit of reading the
instructions I realised my mistake and managed to get it going
properly again. But it took alot longer than if I had done things
properly the first time.

Paul Johnson.


Longden Loo wrote:
> 1 or 2mb ATA cards are probably such a rarity that it may be easier/cheaper to
> find a card that's a bit bigger.
>
> I'll have to experiment on my digital camera (Canon A50).  It stores the
photos
> in a dedicated \DCIM directory on the CF card (I have a 32mb).  I wonder if it
> could co-habit with a "rescue boot" configuration so that my camera would
serve
> double duty.

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Does anyone know if such a thing is possible? It would obviate the need for
an ether card.. for me, at least. I know it can be done with Linux (shoot,
Linux can do anything.) but is there a free/sharware program available for
98?

thx

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Has anyone pursued this route? I got the keyboard and it's really great!
Since you can fold it into a stack, it's very easy to carry around. Now
if someone could rig up a connector for the HP200LX and write a driver
for it...

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<<Just make sure you don't do what I did and not thoroughly check that
the paths in config.sys and autoexec.bat on your CF rescue card all
point to locations ON the CF rescue card (don't just copy your files
over to the CF).>>

What I tend to do is use relative path names in my config.sys and
autoexec.bat and then keep the same drivers, etc. in the same
directories on the backup flash as well as the main C: drive (usually
the root on both). This way they can be backed up without having to
change them and it will boot fine from the main C: drive or the flash.

Cheers,
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Does anyone have a copy of the Minesweeper game that was written for the
100LX/200LX? I can't find my copy and either I'm overlooking it or it isn't
on palmtop.net :( I believe it was called Mine100 or something like that.
Thanks in advance!

Jeff

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Subject:      Re: Direct PPP into Windows 98
Comments: To: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <88B83692B566C74F82EBDA8D36983E640AFC91@exchange2000.WAGWEB.COM>;
              from Ed Padin on Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:07:30PM -0400
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I've successfully used mochappp (shareware from palmgear.com) with the
hp200lx.  I've had problems setting the dial-up networking ppp server.

--francois

On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:07:30PM -0400, Ed Padin wrote:
> Does anyone know if such a thing is possible? It would obviate the need for
> an ether card.. for me, at least. I know it can be done with Linux (shoot,
> Linux can do anything.) but is there a free/sharware program available for
> 98?
>
> thx
>
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Date:         Mon, 7 Aug 2000 22:27:51 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Minesweeper
Comments: To: Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Hearts & Bones is built in, isn't it a minesweeper clone?

Cheers... Russ

Jeff wrote:
> Does anyone have a copy of the Minesweeper game that was written for the
> 100LX/200LX? I can't find my copy and either I'm overlooking it or it isn't
> on palmtop.net :( I believe it was called Mine100 or something like that.

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Pretty kewl. I got it working with netttamer but it was tricky. Nettamer
doesn't allow for direct PPP so I first ran a terminal emulator and typed
"OK" and "CONNECT" messages like a modem would. When I saw garbage
characters I started the mochappp program. I'm gonna ask the authors if they
could put a 'modem' emulation feature in the program. Maybe I can write my
own program to do this... hmmmm... I could probably write something in
qbasic.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Blah...Just Blah.. mailto:matrix@SHOT.ORG
>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 6:19 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: HPLX-L Direct PPP into Windows 98
>
>
>I've successfully used mochappp (shareware from palmgear.com) with the
>hp200lx.  I've had problems setting the dial-up networking ppp server.
>
>--francois
>
>On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:07:30PM -0400, Ed Padin wrote:
>> Does anyone know if such a thing is possible? It would
>obviate the need for
>> an ether card.. for me, at least. I know it can be done with
>Linux (shoot,
>> Linux can do anything.) but is there a free/sharware program
>available for
>> 98?
>>
>> thx
>>
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Joel,

Thanks for getting back to me.  Enjoy HOTlanta!  =Bob=

> Bob:
>
> Your concerns regarding Notions Marketing are truly valid.  Please note, It
> is not our intention to destroy our current customer base or our salesman's
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 22:27:51 +0000, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:

> Hearts & Bones is built in, isn't it a minesweeper clone?

Yes, H&B is on the D: drive but Mine100 just seems more fun to me, although
the object of the game is the same. I'll mail you a copy if you want to see
it. A kind soul here on the list jusy sent me a copy.

Jeff

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Is minesweeper available on SUPER?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDUOn
> Behalf Of
> Jeff
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 9:30 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Minesweeper
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 22:27:51 +0000, Russel Brooks
> <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:
>
> > Hearts & Bones is built in, isn't it a minesweeper clone?
>
> Yes, H&B is on the D: drive but Mine100 just seems more fun
> to me, although
> the object of the game is the same. I'll mail you a copy if
> you want to see
> it. A kind soul here on the list jusy sent me a copy.
>
> Jeff
>
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For those that are interested, you can download a copy of Minesweeper at
http://notachance.com/mine100.zip

Jeff

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Test

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:28:38 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Things must be pretty slow in 'Bama at midnight <g>

- Longden





Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> on 08/07/2000 09:16:26 PM

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Test

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On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> Things must be pretty slow in 'Bama at midnight <g>

Kinda, except for the technical glitch that I was had :( All is well now
:)

Jeff

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 >Date:    Mon, 7 Aug 2000 05:28:28 -0600
 >From:    Bob Christopher <bc@CHISP.NET>
 >Subject: How to change from digest back to regular mail
 >
 >How does one change from digest mode back to regular, message
 >mode? Thanks.

You can switch from digest back to regular mail by sending an email
addressed to

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Date:         Tue, 8 Aug 2000 01:40:31 -0400
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              71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Hi all,

Tinkering w/ GDB Dump, like it .... but I may've done something
to myself by not setting my database up "right" in the first
place.

I *really* like the ability to dump my database into CSV, as so
many programs can import that, but what about "radio button"
fields?

I set up a database for my small movie collection. Some are DVD,
some are VHS, etc. ... I even thought I might use the same
database for my CDs (abandoned that thought) so there's a spot
for that too in my "format" section.

If my "buttons" (I forget the LX name and am using the web name)
in format are labeled, "VHS","DVD","CD","Other" and I've created
a record for a DVD, the CSV output is: "0","1","0","0" ...
Any (easy) way to convert that to "Format" (in the first line,
with the field names) and "DVD" in the record?

I imagine some sort of script, even in BASIC, could count fields
in the CSV file and do some sort of "if ... then" deal, but I'm
not sure what the best/simplest/fastest answer is.

TIA for any help!

--tim

PS. I could prob. hand-edit the CSV file faster than I could
write a "fixit" program I only know half-forgotten BASIC ... (I
know, it's like admitting to a room full of concert pianists,
that I can play the xylophone...<grin>) but I did hold a "Perl
in 24 hours" book for some time in the bookstore today. I'd
like to keep databases in the LX, use the LX as the updating
machine, etc. and then easily send the data to other
programs/devices, each time I change something in the LX.

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Date:         Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:48:23 +0200
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              fernando_ruiz2@HP.COM
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Hello,

thanks francois for the reference about Direct PPP.
It works fine with WNT4.0 too at 19200 bps. Do you
know how set COM up at Palmtop side for increase this
baud rate?

Talking about Direct PPP link, anybody know another
tools, workarounds ... to set it up? For instance
Dial-Up Networking ...

See you

Fernando Ruiz

-----Original Message-----
From: matrix@SHOT.ORG mailto:matrix@SHOT.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:19 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: Direct PPP into Windows 98


I've successfully used mochappp (shareware from palmgear.com) with the
hp200lx.  I've had problems setting the dial-up networking ppp server.

--francois

On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:07:30PM -0400, Ed Padin wrote:
> Does anyone know if such a thing is possible? It would obviate the need
for
> an ether card.. for me, at least. I know it can be done with Linux
(shoot,
> Linux can do anything.) but is there a free/sharware program available
for
> 98?
>
> thx
>
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      Jeff's minesweeper
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hi Jeff,

On 8 Aug 2000, at 0:00, Automatic digest processor wrote:

> For those that are interested, you can download a copy of Minesweeper at
> http://notachance.com/mine100.zip
>
I was interested, but there was _notachance_ to get a valid zip file.


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Ok gang, try http://notachance.com/mine100.exe for minesweeper.

Jeff

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Flufff lint fluff lint and all dat feces

Somthing inneresting dis way komes...
perchance one of youse guys kan doo somthing wit dis.

Some time ago you contacted us in connection with the
Stanford Matchbox PC, now the TIQIT MPC.  At five cubic
inches and three ounces the MPC is the world's smallest PC
capable of running desktop operating systems such as Linux
and Microsoft Windows.

The following is the long-overdue announcement we have been
promising interested parties concerning commercial
availability of the MPC. In the time since we built our
first prototype in 1999 we have received over
700 such inquiries.

The TIQIT MPC is now available for immediate shipment.
Units may be ordered by credit card at TIQIT's website,
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unit is $1,495.  For credit card website orders
click on SALES or ORDER in the navigator window on the left
of our home page.  We accept Visa, Mastercharge, Diners,
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For phone orders call TIQIT at 650-289-9009.  Email orders
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The MPC ships with a ready-to-run 250 MB subset of RedHat
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Additional software may be installed by the user via
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Specifications for the MPC may be found by clicking on
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following is a representative list, for more details click
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*  Data logging on vehicles where weight is at a premium
such as satellites, robot planes, and meteorological
balloons.

* As a wearable computer in conjunction with a headmounted
display and a compact keyboard such as the Handykey
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* As a lightweight transportable computer carried between
two or more locations such as home and work, with a
separate port expander at each location permanently
connected to a monitor, keyboard, mouse, printer,
floppy, and network connection.

In this last application, the single-connector docking
arrangement makes it possible, when leaving for another
location, to power down, unplug the MPC in one motion,
transport it in a pocket, handbag, or briefcase to
the other site, reconnect and reboot.  This use of the
MPC's single VHDCI connector avoids the hassle of
disconnecting six separate cables one by one and then
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security benefit it further allows you to keep your data
near you at all times,

I would be very interested to hear your own ideas for
applications of the MPC, both in general and in your area
of expertise.

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Date:         Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:03:43 +0200
Reply-To:     Tom Bergemann <tbergemann@usa.net>
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From:         Tom Bergemann <tbergemann@USA.NET>
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Dear Fellow Palmtoppers,

I have read about extensive Battery Drain in the past and since a couple of weeks my Palmtop had the
Problem.
At first I suspected the Pair of 1600mAh AA NiMHs but it wasn' their fault. The problem persited
with a brand new pair of Alkaline AAs.

So I tried the trick to remove the batteries for a couple of days but without success.

I measured the current my 5MB 200LX 2xSpeed sucked: the lowest was 160mA, The highest about 250mA.

I did some tests with and without my old 12Volt 14MB SunDisk PCMCIA and with a more recent 96MB and
10MB CompactFlash .
More or less with the same results.

Then I rebooted the 200LX without any card and - voila - 30mA in Filemanager...

Then I re-inserted the 14Meg card and the current went up to 130mA ... and after 5 seconds ...
dropped again to 30mA.

I figured out that in my case it was SPEED31.EXE in conjuction with any flashcard. Without this
2xSpeed driver loaded the machine works as new.
Now the System loads SPEED31S.SYS instead and it works fine.

Any comments?

Regards,
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Date:         Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:35:03 -0500
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I would like to store a list of phone numbers (with PIN) in a hidden
file on my 200LX, and then use them to dialup my ISPs.  Is there a way
to write information from a file to an environment variable using a
batch file?

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:21:13 -0500
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With the recent successful translation of the Japanese documentation
of another HP application, (was it GDBWIN?), I wonder if we could
call on the bi-lingual individual to translate the documentation for
the FIT and TODO programs.  I've been very interested in using these
programs, but I'm not able to read Japanese, nor have I been able to
find an English version of the instructions.

Also, I'm interested in hearing from anyone else who is already
successfully using either/both of these programs.

Thanks,

-Chris Lott

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SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:1024 /P
                            #### the size you want
the default is 256 bytes

/E: states the size of the DOS environment.  1024 is suitable, as DOS 7.x
automatically adds 1040 to the size which cannot be less than 256.  /P
indicates that the command interpreter shall stay resident and that
AUTOEXEC.BAT shall be executed.  /P may NOT be omitted.

Ref http://home.worldonline.dk/~petermad/co_au-uk.htm

I think that environment variables will be a difficult method to manage.


Good Luck,

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Subject: DOS environment variable question


I would like to store a list of phone numbers (with PIN) in a hidden
file on my 200LX, and then use them to dialup my ISPs.  Is there a way
to write information from a file to an environment variable using a
batch file?

Ted

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For any of you who have access to the Wall Street Journal, there is an
article on page one about what it took for the Palm people to stay
dominant in the market verses Micro$oft.  I wonder if perhaps HP took
sides in the fight and had to kill off the LX to keep Micro$oft happy.
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Date:         Tue, 8 Aug 2000 14:55:24 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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There are a number of batch extension tools that can help you read from
files and write into environment variables.  My favorite is STRINGS.COM,
from PC Magazine, located at
ftp://ftp.zdnet.com/pcmag/1992/1222/strings.zip.

Alan

>From: Theodore Heise mailto:theise@NETINS.NET
>Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 1:35 PM

I would like to store a list of phone numbers (with PIN) in a hidden
file on my 200LX, and then use them to dialup my ISPs.  Is there a way
to write information from a file to an environment variable using a
batch file?

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Date:         Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:30:04 -0700
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Peter Hayes wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 19:29:19 -0700,Mark Willis
> <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET> wrote:
>
> > Hey, all;  I'm looking for an HP1000CX.
> >
> > Can probably make some reasonable trade of say an HP200LX with something
> > added like more RAM;  Let me know.
> >
> > Alternately can trade other hardware or ???
>
> There's a 1000CX on ebay.com in the Computers -> Pda's -> Hewlett
> Packard, about halfway down Page 2. Worldwide shipping too.
>
> Peter

Saw those 2, missed the 1st auction.  Trading is fine with me as another
option, is all.

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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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 >Date:    Tue, 8 Aug 2000 01:40:31 -0400
 >From:    Tim <71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM>
 >Subject: CSV Manipulation (after GDB Dump)
 >
 >If my "buttons" (I forget the LX name and am using the web name)
 >in format are labeled, "VHS","DVD","CD","Other" and I've created
 >a record for a DVD, the CSV output is: "0","1","0","0" ...
 >Any (easy) way to convert that to "Format" (in the first line,
 >with the field names) and "DVD" in the record?
 >

One way is to open your CSV file in Excel, make whatever changes you want,
and then save as CSV again.

You will need to define/modify your GDB format in the LX before converting
your CSV data back to GDB.

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Date:         Tue, 8 Aug 2000 23:57:17 -0700
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Tim wrote:
>I *really* like the ability to dump my database into CSV, as so
>many programs can import that, but what about "radio button"
>fields?

There's a direct way to do what you want, but it doesn't involve
GDBDUMP. You can create a SmartClip in the database application which
has this format:

">Title<",">DVD<>VHS<>CD<>Other<"

The greater-than and less-than symbols mean the field markers when you
do a SmartClip definition. Just put all the options next to each
other, with no spaces in-between. Then you do a print, and choose a
custom type with the SmartClip format that you've created. This will
create a file like this:

"Toy Story","VHS"
"Bridge on the River Kwai","DVD"
"Doc Watson","CD"
"Uncle Dave Macon","Other"

This won't let you modify it in another program and import it back
into the LX (with GDBLOAD), but I gather that you don't want that
anyway. The only other caveat I can think of is that a field
containing a quote won't be interpreted correctly by CSV-reading
programs, so if you have any you'd have to precede the embedded quote
with a backslash.

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Messrs. Hewlett and Packard, with the encouragement of the late Barney
Oliver, partly financed the SETI institute's projects (one reason why i buy
HP products)
...at last MS is following:
    "Microsoft Founder to Help Finance SETI Radio Array"
"Two high-tech moguls are reaching deep into their pockets to help build the
world's most powerful instrument to listen for radio signals from other
intelligent life in our galaxy.
Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen and Nathan Myhrvold, Microsoft's former
chief technology officer, together will donate $12.5 million to build a huge
array of small radio dishes that will serve as a technological ear on the
cosmos."
The rest of the story here:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/seti_funding_000801.html

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Date:         Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:41:52 +0200
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>Sorry if this is a FAQ. My latch will no longer latch

and sorry if this is fluff, but i solved the "latch problem" by ripping off
the whole latch - i'm now "latch-free", that is, i don't have to push that
latch every time i want to use the LX - it's quicker just to flip it open
and get right into it :)

what keeps my lid down is my fluffy pink wash cloth, LX's perfect home and
dust protection.

and what do YOU keep your LX in?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathalie Bugeaud" <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
>     "Microsoft Founder to Help Finance SETI Radio Array"

I can't resist....Micosoft....where there is no intelligent life...is
looking for intelligent life in the universe.

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hobchi wrote:
> --- Mark Willis
> > Hey, all;  I'm looking for an HP1000CX.
> Why wood yu want a 1000?
> Just don't use the sys aps on the 200 or use Carosel for
> mor mem :)
>
> I'm still looking for a PC110 docking station.
>
> TIA.

People keep telling me I should work different than I work;  Well...

(a) Doncha just hate it when the screen swaps to a PDA alarm when you're
deep in the middle of coding?  (Have someone stick a strobe in your
face, once or twice a day, when you're in the middle of thinking deeply,
for a week or too;  I'll suggest someone *VERY* expendable.  <VBEG>  I
find this completely blows my concentration, don't need that!)

(b1)  Dontcha just hate it when your PDA beeps at you and you grab your
Dos box by mistake?
(b2)  Dontcha just hate it when you have this really nice coding idea
and you grab your PDA machine and it's NOT your Dos machine?  Either
wastes time.

(c)  Dontcha just hate missing appointments?  (I need a PDA.)

(d)  Dontcha just hate it when you run an application on your coding
machine, after backing up all your source code, and it kills all your
PDA data?  Sucks.

Imagine someone mixing your metric and "Imperial" toolboxes thoroughly,
and erasing the size calibration markings - it'd be pretty annoying;
Similarly, I use the two machines for completely different purposes, and
they're not interchangable;  I need the PDA alarms to not waste my time,
and to still happen (I get to them 2-3 minutes later once I've finished
typing the idea I'm working on.)

I want the two machines to be *easily* visually distinguishable, and I
need the Dos machine to be 2x speed and to have 32Mb or more RAM;  PDA
machine could have 1Mb and would work, but, I upped mine to 8Mb RAM
already.

Could get a 100LX case with screen and put a 200LX momboard in there,
possibly, if someone has one with a DOA momboard (IIRC the screens are
identical, BUT, I haven't checked that yet.)

It's either a 1000CX or re-paint the cover of a 200LX, and I'd feel like
that was vandalism <G>

(And, of course, problems here ate 3 hours, right over the top of that
2nd 1000cx auction - $234 isn't bad for one.)

Dynamism just had a sale of the last of their PC110 parts;
www.dynamism.com, give them a call?

  Mark

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Date:         Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:03:42 +0200
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hi Jeff,

mine100.exe was another try without succes.
I got a small file that was not a valid executable.
Maybe you should try yourself first, if it works :-)


73!
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Date:         Wed, 9 Aug 2000 06:44:44 -0500
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Hi, and thanks to all for the vs. repair suggestions. I am using a short
piece of a fat rubber band jammed into the latch now to restore the
spring to my latch. It seems to be working nicely. I will admit that I
don't have a case for the LX, I just carry it loose in my pocket or
case! Am I being bad?  I'll bet that the machine would like a nice soft
fitted case.
Bryan


Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
>
> >Sorry if this is a FAQ. My latch will no longer latch
>
> and sorry if this is fluff, but i solved the "latch problem" by ripping off
> the whole latch - i'm now "latch-free", that is, i don't have to push that
> latch every time i want to use the LX - it's quicker just to flip it open
> and get right into it :)
>
> what keeps my lid down is my fluffy pink wash cloth, LX's perfect home and
> dust protection.
>
> and what do YOU keep your LX in?
>
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Jeff wrote:
> > Things must be pretty slow in 'Bama at midnight <g>

> Kinda, except for the technical glitch that I was had :( All is well now
> :)

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You the webmaster also?

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:11:19 -0400, Steve Novosad <Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM> wrote:

> You the webmaster also?

It depends on if there is a complaint <grin>.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 9 Aug 2000 06:50:16 -0700
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OK I'm sold
If yu get two offers, send the other one to me.
I'll trade my spare LX200 for a HP1000.

yor pal al..............

--- Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET> wrote:
> hobchi wrote:
> > --- Mark Willis
> > > Hey, all;  I'm looking for an HP1000CX.
> > Why wood yu want a 1000?
> > Just don't use the sys aps on the 200 or use Carosel
> for mor mem :)
> >
> > I'm still looking for a PC110 docking station.
> >
> > TIA.
>
> People keep telling me I should work different than I
> work;  Well...
>
> (a) Doncha just hate it when the screen swaps to a PDA
> alarm when you're
> deep in the middle of coding?  (Have someone stick a
> strobe in your
> face, once or twice a day, when you're in the middle of
> thinking deeply,
> for a week or too;  I'll suggest someone *VERY*
> expendable.  <VBEG>  I
> find this completely blows my concentration, don't need
> that!)
>
> (b1)  Dontcha just hate it when your PDA beeps at you and
> you grab your
> Dos box by mistake?
> (b2)  Dontcha just hate it when you have this really nice
> coding idea
> and you grab your PDA machine and it's NOT your Dos
> machine?  Either
> wastes time.
>
> (c)  Dontcha just hate missing appointments?  (I need a
> PDA.)
>
> (d)  Dontcha just hate it when you run an application on
> your coding
> machine, after backing up all your source code, and it
> kills all your
> PDA data?  Sucks.
>
> Imagine someone mixing your metric and "Imperial"
> toolboxes thoroughly,
> and erasing the size calibration markings - it'd be
> pretty annoying;
> Similarly, I use the two machines for completely
> different purposes, and
> they're not interchangable;  I need the PDA alarms to not
> waste my time,
> and to still happen (I get to them 2-3 minutes later once
> I've finished
> typing the idea I'm working on.)
>
> I want the two machines to be *easily* visually
> distinguishable, and I
> need the Dos machine to be 2x speed and to have 32Mb or
> more RAM;  PDA
> machine could have 1Mb and would work, but, I upped mine
> to 8Mb RAM
> already.
>
> Could get a 100LX case with screen and put a 200LX
> momboard in there,
> possibly, if someone has one with a DOA momboard (IIRC
> the screens are
> identical, BUT, I haven't checked that yet.)
>
> It's either a 1000CX or re-paint the cover of a 200LX,
> and I'd feel like
> that was vandalism <G>
>
> (And, of course, problems here ate 3 hours, right over
> the top of that
> 2nd 1000cx auction - $234 isn't bad for one.)
>
> Dynamism just had a sale of the last of their PC110
> parts;
> www.dynamism.com, give them a call?
>
>   Mark
>
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Okay, go to http://notachance.com/mine and you can download Minesweeper
complete with an icon. Oh yeah, for those of you that leave complaints in my
guestbook, I will hack your email and infect your LX with viruses <evil
snicker>. Peace!

Jeff

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I hope that they also fund project spaceguard looking for
earth-orbit-crossing-dinosaur-killer-sized asteroids.

http://spaceguard.ias.rm.cnr.it/SGF/

If we do get a message from E.T. we may not exist when they get our reply.


>Messrs. Hewlett and Packard, with the encouragement of the late Barney
>Oliver, partly financed the SETI institute's projects (one
>reason why i buy
>HP products)
>...at last MS is following:
>    "Microsoft Founder to Help Finance SETI Radio Array"
>"Two high-tech moguls are reaching deep into their pockets to
>help build the
>world's most powerful instrument to listen for radio signals from other

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Thanks to Mack - he sent me a newer driver - the problem is fixed even with the SPD31.EXE.

What an outstanding service TIMES2TECH provides.

Best Regards,
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I am attempting to download files from the super database on
my palmtop via WWW/LX.  All I am getting is an HV_temp file.
I have not had this problem before.  Any thoughts or
suggestions?
Jim

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Maybe you can propose this to the Clinton Administration to help them justify
NMD (National Missile Defense).

Bigger and easier targets <g>.

On another fluff related note to SETI .... maybe ET is on the web ... what
better place to sample and study humanity and to even interact in complete
anonymity.

- Longden





Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> on 08/09/2000 07:57:59 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
      to Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Re: FLUFF: Hewlett and Packard



I hope that they also fund project spaceguard looking for
earth-orbit-crossing-dinosaur-killer-sized asteroids.

http://spaceguard.ias.rm.cnr.it/SGF/

If we do get a message from E.T. we may not exist when they get our reply.


>Messrs. Hewlett and Packard, with the encouragement of the late Barney
>Oliver, partly financed the SETI institute's projects (one
>reason why i buy
>HP products)
>...at last MS is following:
>    "Microsoft Founder to Help Finance SETI Radio Array"
>"Two high-tech moguls are reaching deep into their pockets to
>help build the
>world's most powerful instrument to listen for radio signals from other

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Subject: Re: Latch problem

My latch does not work...it's been like that for a long time...never got it
fixed and it has not been a big enough problem to get it fixed.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff" <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
> guestbook, I will hack your email and infect your LX with viruses <evil
> snicker>. Peace!
>              --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
>              --   Jefferson County Sheriff's Department   --

You work for the sherrifs department and your infecting others with viruses?
That is setting a good example for the population.

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Subject says it all- for a relative of mine, expatriate to be.

TIA

Etienne

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:50:12 -0400,Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET>
wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nathalie Bugeaud" <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
> >     "Microsoft Founder to Help Finance SETI Radio Array"
>=20
> I can't resist....Micosoft....where there is no intelligent life...is
> looking for intelligent life in the universe.

Maybe they're looking for some "bug" fixes...

Peter
--=20

Microsoft:   This company has performed an illegal operation
                      and will be shut down.

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:04:19 -0400, Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET> wrote:

> You work for the sherrifs department and your infecting others with viruses?
> That is setting a good example for the population.

Geesh..... this was said sarcastically, hence the '<evil grin>'. Besides, it
wouldbe quite a technical challenge for me to get to your email client just
by visiting my web site, although I do track IP's, domains, etc via SSI and
a heavily modified script. Once again, I state "This was a sarcastic,
humorous posting".... maybe we could start another urban-legend regarding
this posting?!?!

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:14:51 +0100
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>
> I am attempting to download files from the super database on
> my palmtop via WWW/LX.  All I am getting is an HV_temp file.
> I have not had this problem before.  Any thoughts or
> suggestions?

I'm not sure if I understand your question.

If what you say is that you get an empty HV_temp page than it might be
that your ISP's setup no longer supports browsing with HV. Two of my
three ISP's do that.

Try if you get the same result when attempting to connect to a
different URL.

Try also http://www.digitalpaths.net/wince/pie10.htm and see if you can
browse to SUPER through this URL, which strips out all fancy stuff from
webpages.


HP Staber/Salzburg

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:14:51 +0100, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> If what you say is that you get an empty HV_temp page than it might be
> that your ISP's setup no longer supports browsing with HV. Two of my
> three ISP's do that.

How can an ISP keep/prevent you from using a certain brand of browser?!?!?!
Am I not right by thinking that the ISP only provides the connection
(TCP/IP) to the internet? How would an ISP even know what browser you are
using?

Jeff

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             --   Jefferson County Sheriff's Department   --
             --    B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com    --
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Minesweeper... Fixed


> On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:04:19 -0400, Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET> wrote:
>
> > You work for the sherrifs department and your infecting others with
viruses?
> > That is setting a good example for the population.
>
> Geesh..... this was said sarcastically, hence the '<evil grin>'. Besides,
it
> wouldbe quite a technical challenge for me to get to your email client
just
> by visiting my web site, although I do track IP's, domains, etc via SSI
and
> a heavily modified script. Once again, I state "This was a sarcastic,
> humorous posting".... maybe we could start another urban-legend regarding
> this posting?!?!
>
> Jeff
>
>              --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
>              --   Jefferson County Sheriff's Department   --
>              --    B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com    --
>              --         http://www.NotAChance.com         --
>              --  NotSoQuick.com & NotSoQuick.net Domain   --
>              --  Names For Sale or Trade, Email Me Info   --
>
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>
Couldn't you just get my e-mail address from these postings?  I find that
viruses are not a joking matter...I worked for a company that sells
computers...we had hundreds of customers who got viruses from one of our
vendors software.  I find planting viruses akin to coming into my business
and burning the place to the ground.

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:44:20 -0400, "Ken London" <kenlondon@beld.net> wrote:

> Couldn't you just get my e-mail address from these postings?  I find that
> viruses are not a joking matter...I worked for a company that sells
> computers...we had hundreds of customers who got viruses from one of our
> vendors software.  I find planting viruses akin to coming into my business
> and burning the place to the ground.

Ken, chill..... How am I going to access your email client like I said in
the original posting?!?!?! You didn't read it correctly and didn't catch the
'spirit' of the posting. Cheers!

Jeff

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Hi Ted,

>I would like to store a list of phone numbers (with PIN) in a hidden
>file on my 200LX, and then use them to dialup my ISPs.  Is there a way
>to write information from a file to an environment variable using a
>batch file?

You might be able to develop a way of doing what you want to do without
batch file utilities by studying the batch file at the end of this
message. You might even be able to use the old DOS line editor within
your batch file. That can be controlled within a batch file.

Good luck.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

---

@echo off
rem assigns the current day three letter abreviation to environment
rem variable "day"
rem ************************************
echo set day=%%3 > current.bat
echo. | date > temp.bat
call temp.bat
del temp.bat
del current.bat

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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: DOS environment variable question

John J Vanderstel writes:
>
> You might be able to develop a way of doing what you want to do without
> batch file utilities by studying the batch file at the end of this
> message. You might even be able to use the old DOS line editor within
> your batch file. That can be controlled within a batch file.

Using echo to write to a batch file is a good idea, one that I hadn't
thought of.  When you say the old line editor, do you mean edlin?  I
have no idea how one would go about using that in a batch file.

Thanks for the ideas!

Ted

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How do I get Lotus 1-2-3 to display 1999-12-31
The years after 2000 are 4 digits ?
What are the commands ?

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In regard to:
Subject: 1nol Access from HP200LX - IT WORKS !!!
From: Yves Leurquin (leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM)
Date: Thu Aug 03 2000 - 05:33:16 EDT
Refer:
http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/hypermail/2089.html
Does this service use encryption and requires
Rasspy.exe ?
Have been visiting that site today and unable to D/L
or Sign Up
Any suggestions ?

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In regard to:
Subject: Fwd: CF+ Question Answered
From: Al Kind (MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU)
Date: Thu Jul 06 2000 - 06:58:47 EDT
Refer:
http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/hypermail/1332.html
Has anyone tried the software to recognize the
Microdrive on the HP200LX (any driver available for
the CMOS) ?
Which driver should I D/L from
http://www.palmtop.net/supercat.html  ?
Found this too: Listing of the CF+ dimensions
http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/micro/d-spec-2.htm
And the following URL:
http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/hddtech.htm
does not list anything about the DOS or the 80186
Nor the URL
http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/mddwnld.htm
http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/mdfalist.htm


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----- Original Message -----
From: "John J Vanderstel" <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
> >I would like to store a list of phone numbers (with PIN) in a hidden
> >file on my 200LX, and then use them to dialup my ISPs.  Is there a way

Is this a good idea????  If someone gets a hold of your 200lx then they have
your pin numbers and your account numbers.

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There exists a new HTML-like format for the PalmPilots. DOS converters are
available. Is there any hope, that this format could be used on the LX? i.e.
will there ever be a DOS-viewer?

http://www.isilo.com

-goe-

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I don't think, that it is the ISP. Do you use any Proxy? Only in this case
it can be the ISP. Without Proxy, there should not be any filtering/logging
from the ISP side. Of course, the german ISP's often use dedicated dialup
software or require you to use the Proxy. When a file cannot be downloaded,
it is often a false Webserver setting, or a file extension, the browser
doesn't know.

-goe-


> > If what you say is that you get an empty HV_temp page than it might be
> > that your ISP's setup no longer supports browsing with HV. Two of my
> > three ISP's do that.
>
>How can an ISP keep/prevent you from using a certain brand of browser?!?!?!
>Am I not right by thinking that the ISP only provides the connection
>(TCP/IP) to the internet? How would an ISP even know what browser you are
>using?

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Date:         Thu, 10 Aug 2000 06:07:02 EDT
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Subject:      Re: Download from Super
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I have had that same problem in the past.  I solved it by deleting the html documents in the cache.  My .cfg file points to c:\www\cache so it is easy for me to delete them all at one time.

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Hi,

If you have configured WWW/LX to use a proxy server, then there is =
probably
your problem. It seams like later versions of WWW/LX doesn't work
properly with HV when a proxy server is configured, so I currently use an =
older
version of WWW/LX for HV and the latest version of WWW/LX for Post/LX.

I  have reported this to Dasoft, so I am sure it will be fixed in one
way or another.

Regards,

Jorgen

> I am attempting to download files from the super database on
> my palmtop via WWW/LX.  All I am getting is an HV_temp file.
> I have not had this problem before.  Any thoughts or
> suggestions?
> Jim
>

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Date:         Thu, 10 Aug 2000 08:41:14 -0400
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Lotus will show a date as 01/01/2000 by choosing /Range Format Date
LongIntl. This is the only internal date display that includes a four digit
year.



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How do I get Lotus 1-2-3 to display 1999-12-31
The years after 2000 are 4 digits ?
What are the commands ?

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Ken London wrote:

> Is this a good idea????  If someone gets a hold of your 200lx then
> they have your pin numbers and your account numbers.

The numbers are not for bank accounts but for phone dialing
accounts, so I think the risk is tolerable.  Still, I've been
considering leaving the PINs out of the file and having my batch
file prompt for them to be entered if needed.

Making the file hidden is some protection, but obviously not a
great deal.

Ted

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Hi everyone,

Not a question you hear everyday, but would anyone be interested in
"adopting" the site at http://games.hplx.net ?

Although I would love to carry on updating it, I'm finding that I just don't
have the time to devote proper attention to it. Another factor is that
currently I am, I have to admit, a defector to the Pocket PC! (If anyone has
any questions about the Compaq iPAQ Pocket PC, feel free to ask. Probably
best to mark as fluff, or just mail me).

If nobody takes up the offer, I will of course leave the site up on my
webspace as a static reference - there's no chance of it disappearing
overnight! To me, however, it seems a shame to leave a site essentially
"dead", which is why I'm hoping that someone will step in.

Of course, any potential new owners are more than welcome to chop and change
as much as they like. No need to keep the same style (the "delightful"
colour scheme, the fact that it looks awful outside of IE!), the content is
(hopefully!) what's useful. Perhaps there might even be some way of
incorporating it into SUPER...?

Best wishes,

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I don't think 123 has any formats that support a 4 digit year display for years
preceding 2000.

/RangeFormatDate has a "Long Intl" selection that you can modify using
/WorksheetGlobalDefaultOtherInternationalDate but even there, the only choices
are 2 digit years.

123 designers must have just coded the 4 digit year display for 2000 and beyond
as a stop-gap contingency measure in the unlikelihood that anyone would actually
be using the software by then <g>.

Depending on your needs, you can probably write a function of some sort that
will simulate a date display of yyyy-mm-dd, but this would not be the same (ie,
date arithmetic would not work). Another kludgy fix using multiple cells:

  A              B              C  D          E   F
1 @date(99,6,15) @year(a1)+1900 '- @month(a1) '-  @day(a1)

Cell a1 displays "06/15/99" (but can be hidden) and cells b1-f1 can be resized
as needed to show 1999-6-15.   Use cell a1 for date arithmetic.

- Longden





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How do I get Lotus 1-2-3 to display 1999-12-31
The years after 2000 are 4 digits ?
What are the commands ?

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Ken
jus kut a piece of foam or a rubba band
to fit in the space nex to latch and it
shud woik jus find.

> Subject: Re: Latch problem
>
> My latch does not work...it's been like that for a long
> time...never got it
> fixed and it has not been a big enough problem to get it
> fixed.




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Jeff,

> On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:14:51 +0100, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:
>
> > If what you say is that you get an empty HV_temp page than it might be
> > that your ISP's setup no longer supports browsing with HV. Two of my
> > three ISP's do that.
>
> How can an ISP keep/prevent you from using a certain brand of browser?!?!?!
> Am I not right by thinking that the ISP only provides the connection
> (TCP/IP) to the internet? How would an ISP even know what browser you are
> using?

I'm no techie so I'm unable to give you a profound answer. Fact is that
I can't browse when connected to these two ISP's. I assume that the
cause must be in their server hard and software. And I know of other
ISP's such as ATT who do the same.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Who on the list has working knowledge of how email servers work?  I have an
idea for a program to reduce SPAM.  Someone with D&A maybe?

Don.

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> The numbers are not for bank accounts but for phone dialing
> accounts, so I think the risk is tolerable.  Still, I've been

So people can call into the account...do thousands of dollars of business in
your name....and then stick you with the bill.

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On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:11:04 +0100, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> I'm no techie so I'm unable to give you a profound answer. Fact is that
> I can't browse when connected to these two ISP's. I assume that the
> cause must be in their server hard and software. And I know of other
> ISP's such as ATT who do the same.

That's pretty darn weird :-) Does POST/LX work with these ISP's? If so, how
does the ISP know that you are using a mail client vs. a browser? This is
quite interesting and I'm curious how all of this works....

Jeff

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Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
> and sorry if this is fluff, but i solved the "latch problem" by ripping off

Your post is NOT Fluff.  Any topic related to the LX is Not Fluff.
Only when you get way off topic should you label your post Fluff.
Examples include bicycles, Win*, cameras, guns, politics, religion, etc.
Even these topics can be Non-Fluff as long as you work the LX into the
conversation.

Normally my religious beliefs would be way off topic and shouldn't be
posted at all; ...unless I admit praying to the LX god hoping the LX
will have a long and prosperous life without hinge cracks.  :-)

> and what do YOU keep your LX in?

I use a zippered pouch that I got from Educalc shortly before they went
out of business.

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Theodore Heise wrote:
> When you say the old line editor, do you mean edlin?  I
> have no idea how one would go about using that in a batch file.

You can redirect commands to EDLIN by thinking ahead what commands you
would issue manually, the put those commands/keystrokes in a file like
MYEDLIN.CMD then calling EDLIN from a BAT file telling it to get its
command from your file like this:  EDLIN file.txt < MYEDLIN.CMD

This will cause Edlin to start editing 'file.txt' and take its input
from MYEDLIN.CMD.  Remember you need to include the final save/quit so
Edlin will terminate and return control to the BAT file and your
keyboard.

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From: Don Chow=20
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Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 1:48 PM
Subject: HP340 Printers, cheap=20


Just got a refurbished HP340 Deskjet today.  There's a blowout sale on =
them at http://www.laptopcloseout.com, they're US$58/CDN$89 (plus =
shipping) with a 30 day warranty.  Came with a paper tray, standard =
printer cable, power supply & ink cartridge, but no manual :(   Delivery =
was next day & the unit seems to be in pretty good shape. =20

I just got quoted (elsewhere) CDN$60 for an I/R port, so I'll have to =
order that & see if I can get it working with the LX.  Anyone using this =
setup now?

200LX in Vancouver


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Hi Ted,

>Using echo to write to a batch file is a good idea, one that I hadn't
>thought of.  When you say the old line editor, do you mean edlin?  I
>have no idea how one would go about using that in a batch file.

Yep. That's what I was referring to. I've seen batch files in the past
that somehow used edlin to do specific editing functions to lines of
another batch file, while on the fly.

I never learned how to use edlin, so I've never done it, myself.  It's
been a long time since I've seen it, as well, but I do know that it's
indeed possible.

>Thanks for the ideas!

Your welcome, Ted.  I hope that you are actually able to make use of that
information.  The utility "Strings", as a list member had mentioned, does
a good job of doing certain editing functions from within a batch file,
too.  Check that out and make sure that it can't do what you want with
that utility before pursuing edlin.

Hopefully you'll be able to use the methodology employed in the batch
file I sent you to get the info you want into environment variables.  I
wrote a program many years ago that used the batch command "choice" and
the above methodology to take keyboard input and put it into environment
variables.  That batch file actually added (very weak) password
protection to another batch file.

If I run across that batch file again, I'll send you a copy. That might
also offer some batch file ideas for your project.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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From:         Tim <palmtop@N-LINK.COM>
Subject:      Re: CSV Manipulation (after GDB Dump)
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re:
>There's a direct way to do what you want, but it doesn't involve
>GDBDUMP. You can create a SmartClip in the database application which
>has this format:

>">Title<",">DVD<>VHS<>CD<>Other<"

>The greater-than and less-than symbols mean the field markers when you
>do a SmartClip definition. Just put all the options next to each
>other, with no spaces in-between.


Worked like a Champ!  Thanks Curtis.

BTW, I "read too quickly" the first time and used ">" greater than and less
than signs(!).  THEN, when it didn't work, I went and "discovered" the field
button F2 <grin>, and it inserted the solid arrows .... you TOLD me, I
just went too fast!

You were right, I only plan to do this as a one-way transfer, for now; so
this is a perfect solution.

Thanks again,

--tim

PS. Anyone know of a way to do this as a two-way process? would require
translating a "radio button" output in an LX data file (which gives you an
output like: "0","0","0","1" if you've selected the 4th option button) into
it's text equivalent, i.e., "DVD," for the CSV and BACK again, if you modify
the database in another program.  It's not burning a hole in my brain .....
I'm happy w/ this one-way solution; so thanks!

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*THIS* is fluff!

re:
>Your post is NOT Fluff.  Any topic related to the LX is Not Fluff.

>Only when you get way off topic should you label your post Fluff.
<snip>
>I use a zippered pouch that I got from Educalc shortly before they went
>out of business.

Anyone want an old Educalc catalog, just for memory's sake?

I just found one, while cleaning out my garage!!!

OK, and I also found something that could pre-date "The Piltdown Man" ....
it's been awhile!

Cheers!

--tim

PS. I think my "Rip Off" (brand name, not opinion), Velcro pouch came from
there too .... There! I've added an LX-angle; maybe I can delete the "Fluff"
... nah, better leave it.

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Date:         Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:55:29 -0400
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Subject:      &S0 or &S1?

Hi All,

Just a quick question.  While attempting to determine the best modem init
string for my US Robotics Sportster 33.6 Data/Fax Internal modem for use
with Nettamer, I came across what appears to be a contradiction in
recommendations.  A terminal program that I have called Lync sends a
generic modem init string to all modems that includes "&S1", which tells
the modem to control DSR (Data Set Ready) operations.

Another communications program that I have sets a US Robotics Sportster
v.34 modem to "AT&F1".

In the Sportster modem manual, the modem command "&F1" to set all of the
modem settings to the Hardware Flow Control Template defaults to "&S0",
which sets DSR Override; always on.

I seem to remember from my BBS sysop days that this was an important
setting, but I can't remember which setting was best.

Does anyone remember which "&S" setting is best to use when connected to
an ISP?

Thanks in advance. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Wed, 9 Aug 2000 22:24:49 +0800
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              kc <kckhor@TRACTORS.COM.MY>
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Subject:      Data drop - HP200LX/Nokia8210
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Anyone out there has any experience on this?
I am using WWW/LX and Robot to transfer my phone list from the Nokia to the
HP200LX. Whilst the process via infra-red completes, i find that the list as
received by the HP is not complete. There appeared to be some data drop, out
of 167 items, only about 100 were received.
Baud rate used was 9600.
Any ideas, anyone?
Thanks
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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:56:23 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Jeff,

> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:11:04 +0100, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:
>
> > I'm no techie so I'm unable to give you a profound answer. Fact is that
> > I can't browse when connected to these two ISP's. I assume that the
> > cause must be in their server hard and software. And I know of other
> > ISP's such as ATT who do the same.
>
> That's pretty darn weird :-) Does POST/LX work with these ISP's? If so, how
> does the ISP know that you are using a mail client vs. a browser? This is
> quite interesting and I'm curious how all of this works....

There was an explanation from Avi not so long ago I think. If I
remember well these ISP's keep webpages cached on their server. If a
"wrong/unknown" browser points to webpages they get only empty webpages from
the cache.

POST/LX works fine however as it uses WWW/LX only to connect to the
SMTP and POP3 server. My main ISP is compuserve which as of today does
not have this empty web page issue. If CSi has glitches I dial in
through one of my other ISP's to collect my mail. No problem. But I
can't browse with HV with these two ISP's.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:58:26 -0400
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              CT <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET>
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I don't know if this should be labeled as fluff or not.  Sorry if it
should have been.

There is a guy I've heard tale of who travels around on his bike, a
three wheeled sitting bike I think, and posts (or used to post) updates
to CompuServe and usenet.  I'm not sure if I've heard of him through the
palmtop community or not.  It seems like he used a palmtop or a laptop
and a mobile phone of some sort.  Does anyone know who I'm talking
about?

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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:43:17 -0400
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WWW.EXE is pretty ignorant of what HV sends as commands, so it
is not anything that WWW.EXE is doing or not doing.

Jeff commented that it cannot be ISP because ISPs do not
filter, except in proxy cases.

There are other ways ISPs can intervene in serving up
webpages. We found a few months ago that ISPs now cache
frequently used Webpages. It seems that when they cache them
they also have a version that best suits MSIE and another that
best paints on Netscape, ignoring all other browsers.

When a browser requests a document part of the exchange
includes the identity of the browser and since HV is not among
the first two <G>, it gets a nice big cherry - an empty
page...

Whether this is the situation for Jim Sanders I do not know.
Even if it turns out to be precisely the case, there isn ot
much we can do with HV - we are not nearly as large and
influential as MSIE and Netscape <g>...

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com


Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If you have configured WWW/LX to use a proxy server, then there is probably
> your problem. It seams like later versions of WWW/LX doesn't work
> properly with HV when a proxy server is configured, so I currently use an older
> version of WWW/LX for HV and the latest version of WWW/LX for Post/LX.
>
> I  have reported this to Dasoft, so I am sure it will be fixed in one
> way or another.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
> > I am attempting to download files from the super database on
> > my palmtop via WWW/LX.  All I am getting is an HV_temp file.
> > I have not had this problem before.  Any thoughts or
> > suggestions?
> > Jim
> >
>
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Jeff wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:11:04 +0100, Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:
>
> > I'm no techie so I'm unable to give you a profound answer. Fact is that
> > I can't browse when connected to these two ISP's. I assume that the
> > cause must be in their server hard and software. And I know of other
> > ISP's such as ATT who do the same.
>
> That's pretty darn weird :-) Does POST/LX work with these ISP's? If so, how
> does the ISP know that you are using a mail client vs. a browser? This is
> quite interesting and I'm curious how all of this works....

Jeff, Post/LX and HV use completely different protocols, and
different server programs (in many cases different hardware
even!) The comparison is not useful. See my other message to
Jorgen.

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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:57:26 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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How long is it supposed to take to get a registration for www/lx 3

I sent my first registration on the 21:th of July. But a automated
message returned a message that I could not order without the form
(wich at that point did not include the uppgrade option).
I downloaded the form and sent it on the 3 of aug.
How long am I supposed to wait?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:57:28 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Does anyone know if "Our" newsserver is down for good or if it has a
schedueled return date?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 03:06:55 -0700
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              ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET>
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Tomas Moberg wrote:

> Does anyone know if "Our" newsserver is down for good or if it has a
> schedueled return date?
>
>       /tomas moberg
>                        Uppsala

Hplx.net plans to continue news service as soon as possible.  However, due
to lack of funding (hplx.net funds come only from donors, advertisers, and
David Sargeant's now-empty pockets) and time, we have not been able to
continuously maintain the news server.   We are working on the problem, but
there is no scheduled resume date.

ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
http://peace.hplx.net/

I know nothing.

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That's a blast from the past! I remember him too, and I think he posted on
Compuserve and GEnie. He rode a recumbent bike with all sorts of gadgets on
it. I don't recall his name and haven't seen anything on him in years.

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Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:58 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Traveling Palmtop user?


I don't know if this should be labeled as fluff or not.  Sorry if it
should have been.

There is a guy I've heard tale of who travels around on his bike, a
three wheeled sitting bike I think, and posts (or used to post) updates
to CompuServe and usenet.  I'm not sure if I've heard of him through the
palmtop community or not.  It seems like he used a palmtop or a laptop
and a mobile phone of some sort.  Does anyone know who I'm talking
about?

CT

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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 06:21:33 -0600
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              "Robert K. Meyer" <bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM>
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If anyone is looking for an old Netscape browser, try

http://home.netscape.com/download/archive.html

Bob
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+--------------------+-----------------+
|Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
+--------------------+-----------------+
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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 06:00:41 -0700
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:43:17 -0400, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Whether this is the situation for Jim Sanders I do not know.
> Even if it turns out to be precisely the case, there isn ot
> much we can do with HV - we are not nearly as large and
> influential as MSIE and Netscape <g>...

Really weird stuff.....

Jeff

             --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
             --   Jefferson County Sheriff's Department   --
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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:58:44 -0700
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Testing sendmail

Jeff

             --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
             --   Jefferson County Sheriff's Department   --
             --    B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com    --
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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:13:02 -0400
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Registering www/lx 3?
Comments: To: Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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We are inundated with orders, sorry. The form is there, and
was there all along since 20th of July. Please try again. If
this does not work, then please use the reguslar Order form on
http://www.dasoft.com/orderfrm.htm ... This is for everyone -
since Moberg's order is already in...

Your order arrived on the 5th, and it is probably coming up to
process this Sunday.

Tomas Moberg wrote:
> How long is it supposed to take to get a registration for www/lx 3
>
> I sent my first registration on the 21:th of July. But a automated
> message returned a message that I could not order without the form
> (wich at that point did not include the uppgrade option).
> I downloaded the form and sent it on the 3 of aug.
> How long am I supposed to wait?
>
>       /tomas moberg
>                        Uppsala
>
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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:13:05 -0400
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Maybe weird, but from the perspective of the ISPs it is
sensible: It makes response time better for the most wanted
Webdocuments. It pleases the majority of their customers, and
that's all they care about.

Jeff wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:43:17 -0400, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:
>
> > Whether this is the situation for Jim Sanders I do not know.
> > Even if it turns out to be precisely the case, there isn ot
> > much we can do with HV - we are not nearly as large and
> > influential as MSIE and Netscape <g>...
>
> Really weird stuff.....
>
> Jeff
>
>              --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
>              --   Jefferson County Sheriff's Department   --
>              --    B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com    --
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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:20:40 -0700
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:13:05 -0400, A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET> wrote:

> Maybe weird, but from the perspective of the ISPs it is
> sensible: It makes response time better for the most wanted
> Webdocuments. It pleases the majority of their customers, and
> that's all they care about.

I'm glad that I use a 'nice' ISP :-)

Jeff

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             --   Jefferson County Sheriff's Department   --
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              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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Bryan Biggers wrote:
>don't have a case for the LX, I just carry it loose in my pocket or
>case! Am I being bad?  I'll bet that the machine would like a nice soft
>fitted case.

my suggestion: USE A COVER all round, even if the latch still works
 - The machine likes to be isolated from the environment, especially when it
is humid and/or dusty. Corrosion and/or obstruction of keyboard contacts are
the result. Send it to Thaddeus (unless you want to immerse it in petrol/gas
and use a Kirby to suck it clean)  :)

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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:28:52 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: DOS environment variable question

Hi Tod,

I was going through some bookmarks in my browser and came across this URL
that I believe might be of interet to you with your environment variable
project:

http://xset.tripod.com

The shareware utility offered sounds rather powerful. :-)

Cheers and good luck!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:12:36 -0400
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 22:24:49 +0800, kc <kckhor@TRACTORS.COM.MY> wrote:

> Anyone out there has any experience on this?
> I am using WWW/LX and Robot to transfer my phone list from the Nokia to the
> HP200LX. Whilst the process via infra-red completes, i find that the list as
> received by the HP is not complete. There appeared to be some data drop, out
> of 167 items, only about 100 were received.
> Baud rate used was 9600.
> Any ideas, anyone?

Sounds like you transfer the phonenumbers that are on your sim. Most
simcards can take 100 enteries. The rest (16) is probably stored on the
phone.

I think you can set what memory you want to download from with the
script. I read this in the textfiles somewhere.. Transfer the sim and
the the phonenumbers on the phone and merg the files afterwards and you
should find all 116.

Good luck

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:26:53 +1200
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>You might be able to develop a way of doing what you want to do without
>batch file utilities by studying the batch file at the end of this
>message. You might even be able to use the old DOS line editor within
>your batch file. That can be controlled within a batch file.
>
>Good luck.
>
>Cheers!
>
>John Vander Stel
>Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
>---

Minor mods needed to this incredibly clever batch file for Win/NT
DOS window, and maybe for some later versions of real DOS:

@echo off
rem assigns the current day three letter abreviation to environment
rem variable "day"
rem ************************************
rem echo set day=%%3 > current.bat
echo set day=%%4 > the.bat
echo. | date > temp.bat
call temp.bat
del temp.bat
del current.bat

---

The 'date' command now says "The current date is: Sat 08/12/00"
Used to be just                 "Current date is: ....."

Cheers, Roger

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 11:11:08 +1200
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>>You might be able to develop a way of doing what you want to do without
>>batch file utilities by studying the batch file at the end of this
>>message. You might even be able to use the old DOS line editor within
>>your batch file. That can be controlled within a batch file.
>>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>
>>John Vander Stel
>>Grand Rapids, Michigan
>>
>>---

>Minor mods needed to this incredibly clever batch file for Win/NT
>DOS window, and maybe for some later versions of real DOS:
>
>@echo off
>rem assigns the current day three letter abreviation to environment
>rem variable "day"
>rem ************************************
>rem echo set day=%%3 > current.bat
>echo set day=%%4 > the.bat
>echo. | date > temp.bat
>call temp.bat
>del temp.bat
>del current.bat
>
>---
>
>The 'date' command now says "The current date is: Sat 08/12/00"
>Used to be just                 "Current date is: ....."
>
>Cheers, Roger

...and the "del current.bat" becomes "del the.bat"

Cheers, Roger (with red face)

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 02:56:47 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Hi

I have now tried Lott's beta and my Rex 256 card. Works just like he
outlines in the docs. (This message has a lot of bad english it is late
:-)

Question:

Can I "instruct" Gdbio not to extract the Notefield from the
Hplx phonebook. The Contacts when I get it on the Rex is so damn slow.
Can not be used at all. (Should maybe read the Gdbio docs? :-)

I have used the Truesync and a subset export of the Hplx phonebook. And
this is without the notefield and it works very well. But it takes too
long to do this on my laptop.

I read in the beta docs that there are work going on getting Hplx
Notebooks into the Rex. I am _really_ looking forward to this. I would
like to merge 2-3 Hplx Notebooks and then transfer this to the Rex.
Ofcourse with a "Title + text" setup..:-)

Is it possible in the next beta to not reset the Rex3 when you dump the
files from the Hplx to the Rex3?

I see that my "Please return too ..." Is reset and also time and home
town settings. Any solution to this?

Well that is it at this time..Hope to see a new beta soon.. Keep up the
good work

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:49:38 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Roger Whitmarsh wrote:

> Minor mods needed to this incredibly clever batch file for Win/NT
> DOS window, and maybe for some later versions of real DOS:
> ...
> REM echo set day=%%3 > current.bat
> echo set day=%%4 > the.bat
> echo. | date > temp.bat
> call temp.bat
> ...

My comliments for your modifications because they show, you
understood this ingenious batch file of John Vander Stel.
It took me 1 hour to hack it. These three batch lines contain
more brain than any other batch file I came across.

I recommend everybody to try to understand, what's
going on here. I learned for the rest of my DOS life.
Many thanks to John Vander Stel!

Stefan

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:42:44 -0700
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              MarkEvans <MarkEvans@PEOPLEPC.COM>
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He's still out there, with a website and newsletter, but now its a boat;
sorry I've lost the URL

M

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 18:56:39 +0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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 >Date:    Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:57:43 GMT
 >From:    Stephan Goeldi <stephan_goeldi@HOTMAIL.COM>
 >Subject: isilo
 >
 >There exists a new HTML-like format for the PalmPilots. DOS converters are
 >available. Is there any hope, that this format could be used on the LX? i.e.
 >will there ever be a DOS-viewer?
 >
 >http://www.isilo.com

I downloaded some of the conversion software, iSiloC32 and iSiloDOS, from
the iSilo site, but it seems that the conversion is one-way to iSilo format
only.

If any of you have a Palm device, you may want to test whether the iSilo
software installed in the Palm has a function to export to text.

I have no problems converting some of the other Palm formats, eg doc and
Tomeraider, using software that runs in Win9x, into text and csv
respectively for use in the LX.

Many of the Palm database files have pdb extensions, but are unreadable in
the LX unless converted.

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 19:38:39 +0800
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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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From:         Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
Subject:      Re: Anyone knows of a free provider in Israel? FLUFF
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 >Date:    Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:24:49 +0200
 >From:    Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@PANDORA.BE>
 >Subject: Anyone knows of a free provider in Israel? FLUFF
 >
 >Subject says it all- for a relative of mine, expatriate to be.
 >

On the Memoware site at http://www.memoware.com , (as well as at
http://www.spug.org), there is a GRIC database, description as follows:-

GRIC global Internet roaming provides travelers access to the Internet by
allowing logins through a local GRIC-affiliated ISP, located throughout the
world. Users can get a quicker, more robust Internet connection than had
they had used a traditional long distance carrier, all for the cost of a
local phone call! Accessing the GRICtraveler network of ISPs is easy. Users
can run MobileDB and find all the valid phone numbers for ISPs in the GRIC
network.

I see from my MobileDB-PC software installed in the PC that there are 12
entries, complete with access phone numbers, for Israel.  The database is
huge with a size of about 1 mb, and when converted to CSV the file size is
also around 1 mb.

The main GRIC site at http://www.gric.com seems to be down at the
moment.  More information is also available at
http://www.impactcentral.com/aboutus/gric.shtml (GRIC partner in Philippines?).

GRIC Internet roaming services does not appear to be free.

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 09:01:48 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ray Simons <ray.simons@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Ray Simons <ray.simons@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Traveling Palmtop user?
Comments: To: MarkEvans@PEOPLEPC.COM
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I recall reading an article about the guy in one of the early magazines
for portables.  He was using the HP Portable 100.  I still have one with
all the manuals etc., in like new condition.  Anyone interested?

Ray

On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:42:44 -0700 MarkEvans <MarkEvans@PEOPLEPC.COM>
writes:
> He's still out there, with a website and newsletter, but now its a
> boat;
> sorry I've lost the URL
>
> M
>
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>
>


Ray Simons
6263 Rockland Road
Lithonia, GA 30038-3431
Phone: 770-484-8919; 678-580-2540
Fax: 678-580-2520
________________________________________________________________
YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:44:21 EDT
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From:         Al McKinney <SalMcK@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Traveling Palmtop user?
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Try microship.com

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:54:58 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
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From:         Scott <smoore@EFFECTNET.COM>
Subject:      PCMCIA Disks,Protectors,Processors and Name Brand Sandisks are
              Available.
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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(7) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

Name brand Sandisks,
(4) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks are available as well.
One (1) $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $70.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

I also some  PCMCIA protectors which are a thick padded leather pouch
with a strong Velcro seal.

(1) for $4.00
(3) or more only $3.00 a piece plus $2.00 for shipping and packaging

(2) 133MHZ Pentium Processors    $15.00 a piece plus $2.00 for shipping
and packaging.

(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

One (1) Diamond Stealth II G460 8Meg AGP 3D Video card.
It has only been used for (2) months. $20.00 plus $5.00 for shipping
and packaging.

Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks the very next day unless I receive your payment
on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded
envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just great and the
people I have worked with have been just Awesome!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 11:20:20 -0500
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              John L LaMaide <lamaide@JUNO.COM>
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From:         John L LaMaide <lamaide@JUNO.COM>
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It was called BEHEMOTH and he rode around for like 10 years, with a
computor and 10 meter HAM radio. Even pulled a trailer with all his
stuff.

73
John  N9PHX



On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:58:26 -0400 CT <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET>
writes:
> I don't know if this should be labeled as fluff or not.  Sorry if it
> should have been.
>
> There is a guy I've heard tale of who travels around on his bike, a
> three wheeled sitting bike I think, and posts (or used to post)
> updates
> to CompuServe and usenet.  I'm not sure if I've heard of him through
> the
> palmtop community or not.  It seems like he used a palmtop or a
> laptop
> and a mobile phone of some sort.  Does anyone know who I'm talking
> about?
>
> CT
>
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>

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 11:54:08 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
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I've been carrying my LX loose in my left front pocket for years
with only 2 problems, which I've learned to avoid.  Twice as I was
getting out of a car the LX slipped out of my pocket.  Once it fell
into water, but it was ok in a couple of days.  I've learned to be
careful getting out of cars and haven't had any further problems.

By the way the same thing can happen getting up from an easychair.
That hasn't caused a problem but I'm also careful then.

Barry


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Date:    Wed, 9 Aug 2000 06:44:44 -0500
From:    Bryan Biggers <biggers@GLOBALDIALOG.COM>
Subject: Re: Latch problem

Hi, and thanks to all for the vs. repair suggestions. I am using a
short
piece of a fat rubber band jammed into the latch now to restore the
spring to my latch. It seems to be working nicely. I will admit that
I
don't have a case for the LX, I just carry it loose in my pocket or
case! Am I being bad?  I'll bet that the machine would like a nice
soft
fitted case.
Bryan
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:30:08 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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Subject:      SSH on the LX!
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Anyone interested in running SSH on the LX?

I've just this morning successfully made a secure connection with an SSH
client for DOS (SSHDOS v0.1 by Nagy Daniel) running on my LX under the
LXTCP environment. That's the good news.

The bad news:

Out of two servers running almost the same version # of daemon, I could
only connect to one of them. I don't know if this is a client problem, or
the server.

It's a little sluggish on a DS 200LX with a network connection, but
usable. On a single speed, and a modem, it might be intolerable, but I
haven't tried it.

I was unable to get the executable as distributed to work on the LX. The
copyright prevents me from distributing my recompiled version or
source changes without permission (which I could try to obtain).

The VT100 emulation is a little buggy, the screen gets messed up.


You can find the original distribution of executable and source at
http://www.vein.hu/~nagyd/ but as I said, I could not get this version to
work. If anyone is interested I could pursue this further.

Cheers,
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Date:         Sun, 13 Aug 2000 00:16:43 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK>
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2000, Mike Kopplin wrote:

> I was unable to get the executable as distributed to work on the LX. The
> copyright prevents me from distributing my recompiled version or
> source changes without permission (which I could try to obtain).

You could distribute a patch against the source code (ie your changes)...


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 21:12:59 -0400
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              Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET>
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Subject:      Death of the palmtop paper
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It was with great sadness that I opened my mail today.  In there was my =
last print issue of the palmtop paper.  It is the end of an era...I've =
known for many years that the HP200lx would someday be history.   DOS =
based software was being replaced by windows. =20

My wife got me an HP545, a "pocket PC," but I still long for a machine =
that has the flexibility of the HP200lx.  With the HP200lx...if it =
didn't do what I wanted it to do...I could write a program that would do =
it.  Now that I have a "pocket PC, " those days are gone. =20

I know change is inevitable, that the HP200lx wasn't going to live =
forever, but this is indeed a very sad day.  The one publication that I =
relied on to "champion" the HP200lx is closing up shop and moving to the =
web.  I know they said it would mean they could do more...but it also =
means the beginning of the end.  It is another nail in the coffin of the =
HP200lx. =20

The bottom line is they got it right when they made the 200lx.  Maybe HP =
got the message that they made the 200lx too good, that any machine in =
the future had to be inferior in quality.  It's like HP made the 200lx =
and figured out that they should not have...that any machine that =
followed would inevitably be inferior in quality.    They seemed much =
too eager to kill off the HP200lx...

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paper.&nbsp; It is=20
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someday be=20
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windows.&nbsp;=20
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still long=20
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HP200lx...if it didn't do what I wanted it to do...I could write a =
program that=20
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gone.&nbsp;=20
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to the=20
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also means=20
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made the=20
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that&nbsp;any machine in the future had to be inferior in quality.&nbsp; =
It's=20
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any=20
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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 23:04:19 EDT
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Hi, all! Has anyone on the list had any experience trying to recharge
batteries for the 200LX with the Stearns Solar Battery Recharger? How worketh
this?

-roger-

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 23:08:53 EDT
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Assuming that copyright issues could be overcome, how much of a need or
demand is there in the 200LX world for a CD-ROM of the original Agenda
manuals in Adobe Acrobat format?

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 23:22:07 -0500
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At 09:26 PM 8/10/00 +0000, you wrote:
>> and what do YOU keep your LX in?

I use a zippered case with "Compaq" on the label that's big enough for me
to fit the 200LX in, plus a spare set of batteries...plus my checkbook, a
pen, and a few other odds and ends.  It has an wriststrap for easy carrying.

When I'm meandering around the house, I just slip the 200LX into my back
pocket.

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Well;
Cheer up, the 200LX may be out of the mainstream, but as long as there are
those out there who appreciate the HLPX's......... the fun will continue!
Recently at my place of employment (hospital), we were updating our HP
telemetery equipment. The staff had some old equipment to be trashed, and
amoung the items were eight brand spankin new HP200LX's, they never used
them! Well happy happy am I after I had time to play around and discover
what I had. I'm an old DOS nut from way back, would have given anything to
have a handheld XT in those days. So I'm going to have fun fun fun diging
out my old dos software and memories! Can't wait till my link cable and
extra memory arive. So...I have lots of ideas and software to share soon,
but you guys already had all your fun,,, so be happy to know that there
there are still those out there that remember the good old days of dos, and
are excited to get thier hands on a sweet piece of hardware like the 200LX
!!


----- Original Message -----
From: Ken London
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 9:12 PM
Subject: Death of the palmtop paper



It was with great sadness that I opened my mail today.  In there was my last
print issue of the palmtop paper.  It is the end of an era...I've known for
many years that the HP200lx would someday be history.   DOS based software
was being replaced by windows.

My wife got me an HP545, a "pocket PC," but I still long for a machine that
has the flexibility of the HP200lx.  With the HP200lx...if it didn't do what
I wanted it to do...I could write a program that would do it.  Now that I
have a "pocket PC, " those days are gone.

I know change is inevitable, that the HP200lx wasn't going to live forever,
but this is indeed a very sad day.  The one publication that I relied on to
"champion" the HP200lx is closing up shop and moving to the web.  I know
they said it would mean they could do more...but it also means the beginning
of the end.  It is another nail in the coffin of the HP200lx.

The bottom line is they got it right when they made the 200lx.  Maybe HP got
the message that they made the 200lx too good, that any machine in the
future had to be inferior in quality.  It's like HP made the 200lx and
figured out that they should not have...that any machine that followed would
inevitably be inferior in quality.    They seemed much too eager to kill off
the HP200lx...

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Date:         Sun, 13 Aug 2000 01:00:41 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Hi Mike,

>Anyone interested in running SSH on the LX?

I hope that I'm not the only one who doesn't know what SSH is!  I might
be interested if I only knew what SSH was.  Please elaborate a little bit
for the rest of us, Mike. :-)

Thanks in advance. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
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Hi All,

I posted a question the other day and have received no comments, at all.
Just in case my post for some strange reason didn't get distributed, here
is a copy of that original message:

---

Hi All,

Just a quick question.  While attempting to determine the best modem init
string for my US Robotics Sportster 33.6 Data/Fax Internal modem for use
with Nettamer, I came across what appears to be a contradiction in
recommendations.  A terminal program that I have called Lync sends a
generic modem init string to all modems that includes "&S1", which tells
the modem to control DSR (Data Set Ready) operations.

Another communications program that I have sets a US Robotics Sportster
v.34 modem to "AT&F1".

In the Sportster modem manual, the modem command "&F1" to set all of the
modem settings to the Hardware Flow Control Template defaults to "&S0",
which sets DSR Override; always on.

I seem to remember from my BBS sysop days that this was an important
setting, but I can't remember which setting was best.

Does anyone remember which "&S" setting is best to use when connected to
an ISP?

Thanks in advance. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, John J Vanderstel wrote:

> I hope that I'm not the only one who doesn't know what SSH is!  I might
> be interested if I only knew what SSH was.  Please elaborate a little bit
> for the rest of us, Mike. :-)

SSH is a means of having a secure connection to another machince over a
network. I typically do this on my LX but do so by logging onto my shell
account then using SSH2 from the shell to connect to the other host. It's
pretty darn secure :-)

Jeff

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Date:         Sat, 12 Aug 2000 22:30:26 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin <kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU>
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> > I hope that I'm not the only one who doesn't know what SSH is!  I might
> > be interested if I only knew what SSH was.  Please elaborate a little bit
> > for the rest of us, Mike. :-)
>
> SSH is a means of having a secure connection to another machince over a
> network. I typically do this on my LX but do so by logging onto my shell
> account then using SSH2 from the shell to connect to the other host. It's
> pretty darn secure :-)

Yes, in it's simplest form (like SSHDOS) you can think of SSH (secure
shell) as a secure telnet program. With normal telnet, your passwords, and
everything else you type, are sent as clear text, and so could be
intercepted and read by someone running a packet sniffer on the network.
With SSH, everthing you type is encrypted before being sent over the wire.
There is one problem with Jeff's method.  It's only as secure as the shell
machine he's dialing in to. With SSH on the palmtop, this isn't as much of
a worry.

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Subject: Re: Death of the palmtop paper

How come I received three identical copies of this message?

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Date:         Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:37:01 +0800
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Hi John,

If you check out http://www.modemhelp.org/inits/usrobotics.html , the only
Robotics modem listed there to use &S1 in its default modem string is the
Sportster V34.  Seems that it is best to use the default &S string for your
modem as displayed by an AT&F command.

What is important for optimum high speed connection is that Hardware Flow
Control (RTS/CTS) should be enabled, and to open the COM port to 115kbps
with the help of a 16550 UART chip.

You may also wish to check out the 3Com support site at
http://consumer.3com.com/sitenav/analogmodemsupport.cfm , and ask them.

John J Vanderstel wrote:
 >
 >Just a quick question.  While attempting to determine the best modem init
 >string for my US Robotics Sportster 33.6 Data/Fax Internal modem for use
 >with Nettamer, I came across what appears to be a contradiction in
 >recommendations.  A terminal program that I have called Lync sends a
 >generic modem init string to all modems that includes "&S1", which tells
 >the modem to control DSR (Data Set Ready) operations.
 >
 >Another communications program that I have sets a US Robotics Sportster
 >v.34 modem to "AT&F1".
 >
 >In the Sportster modem manual, the modem command "&F1" to set all of the
 >modem settings to the Hardware Flow Control Template defaults to "&S0",
 >which sets DSR Override; always on.
 >
 >I seem to remember from my BBS sysop days that this was an important
 >setting, but I can't remember which setting was best.
 >
 >Does anyone remember which "&S" setting is best to use when connected to
 >an ISP?
 >

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hello Avi,

Am 12 Aug 2000, um  0:00, schrieb

>
> When a browser requests a document part of the exchange
> includes the identity of the browser and since HV is not among
> the first two <G>, it gets a nice big cherry - an empty
> page...
>
> Whether this is the situation for Jim Sanders I do not know.
> Even if it turns out to be precisely the case, there isn ot
> much we can do with HV - we are not nearly as large and
> influential as MSIE and Netscape <g>...
>
Opera declares itself as IE or Gozilla, the user can decide.
Why not use this feature for HV?

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Date:         Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:40:28 -0400
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Hi Folks,

 I imagine this topic has been discussed many times before however I
haven't been that active on the list for a while.
 It appears that the 200LX Lotus 123 isn't Y2K compliant. At least with
regards to @datevalue functions. Is there a patch/fix for this or a
workaround?

  Thanks.



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Date:         Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:59:52 +0100
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John,

> Does anyone remember which "&S" setting is best to use when connected to
> an ISP?

I do not answer your direct question as I never got deeply involved in
init strings.

As I'm operating 3 different PCMCIA modems and a cellphone for internet
connection I've decided to use the least common init string to all
hardware setup situations. That's a plain AT&F - and it works fine all
the time and everywhere. Only in predial situations (hotel, business)
do I have to add an X3. That's it :)

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Date:         Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:16:49 EDT
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Hi!

I recall mention of auto shutdown for the 200LX after a certain
time, to conserve battery power. However, mine sometimes does
this, and others it does not. I've not been able to discover any
pattern, nor can I find any reference to it in the manual. Am I
imagining things?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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>Anyone interested in running SSH on the LX?

Of course!

>On a single speed, and a modem, it might be intolerable

IMHO the modem should not be the bottleneck, but the slow cpu.


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> >Anyone interested in running SSH on the LX?
>
> Of course!

A new version of SSHDOS has been released. This version now works on the
LX as is, and the VT100 emulation is much improved. You can find it at

http://www.vein.hu/~nagyd/

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@date(100,8,13) gives you August 13, 2000

Eric Greenspoon wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>  I imagine this topic has been discussed many times before however I
> haven't been that active on the list for a while.
>  It appears that the 200LX Lotus 123 isn't Y2K compliant. At least with
> regards to @datevalue functions. Is there a patch/fix for this or a
> workaround?
>
>   Thanks.
>
>  -Eric
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123 is date compliant to 2099. For more details, see www.palmtoppaper.com
and click on the Y2K button.

.ed.PTP

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Lotus 123 is Y2K compliant; just enter years after 1999 with 3 digits.
For example, year 2000 needs to be entered as 100, year 2001 as 101,
and so on.

Tom


On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:40:28 -0400, Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA> wrote:

 > Hi Folks,
 >
 >  I imagine this topic has been discussed many times before however I
 > haven't been that active on the list for a while.
 >  It appears that the 200LX Lotus 123 isn't Y2K compliant. At least with
 > regards to @datevalue functions. Is there a patch/fix for this or a
 > workaround?
 >
 >   Thanks.
 >
 >  -Eric

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While searching for CF memory for the Coolpix 990 I found this Site.  Very
interesting reading.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/reports/storage_media.html

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John;

&Sn (DSR Override)
Data Set Ready Control

&S0 -- Causes DSR signal to be active at all times.
&S1-- Causes DSR signal to be active according to the V.25 protocol.


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Jeff wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
> > I hope that I'm not the only one who doesn't know what SSH is!  I might
> > be interested if I only knew what SSH was.  Please elaborate a little bit
> > for the rest of us, Mike. :-)
>
> SSH is a means of having a secure connection to another machince over a
> network. I typically do this on my LX but do so by logging onto my shell
> account then using SSH2 from the shell to connect to the other host. It's
> pretty darn secure :-)

Hmmmm... Well, between your ISP and the destination it is
pretty darn secure. But between your palmtop and the ISP it is
pretty darn "open to the public" ...

Realistically, it may be sufficiently secure for your
purposes, of course. The risk is small that someone is
monitoring your phone line, but the risk is there
nevertheless. It is especially insecure if you use cell phone
as your "phone line".

The more completely secure connection would encrypt the
communication BEFORE it leaves the palmtop, so no information
travels without encryption.

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Hello Folks:

As of a few minutes ago we are all caught up with all orders!
it was a heck of marathon job to get everything "out the
door", but nothing is outstanding now.

Now, there is no guarantee that this will last <G>... In fact
a fax just arrived a moment ago... Here we go again! <G>...

Thanks for your patience.

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com

A Meshar wrote:
> We are inundated with orders, sorry. The form is there, and
> was there all along since 20th of July. Please try again. If
> this does not work, then please use the reguslar Order form on
> http://www.dasoft.com/orderfrm.htm ... This is for everyone -
> since Moberg's order is already in...
>
> Your order arrived on the 5th, and it is probably coming up to
> process this Sunday.
>
> Tomas Moberg wrote:
> > How long is it supposed to take to get a registration for www/lx 3
> >
> > I sent my first registration on the 21:th of July. But a automated
> > message returned a message that I could not order without the form
> > (wich at that point did not include the uppgrade option).
> > I downloaded the form and sent it on the 3 of aug.
> > How long am I supposed to wait?
> >
> >       /tomas moberg
> >                        Uppsala
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Ugh - thay is *horrible* - nearly non-functional.

What "kool-aid" do I have to drink to think of every date I enter as a
relative date off of the year 1900!?

There will be a big pause if I have to enter 02-14-101 to mean next
valentines day!

Ken

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Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Lotus 123 Y2K


> Lotus 123 is Y2K compliant; just enter years after 1999 with 3 digits.
> For example, year 2000 needs to be entered as 100, year 2001 as 101,
> and so on.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:40:28 -0400, Eric Greenspoon
<ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA> wrote:
>
>  > Hi Folks,
>  >
>  >  I imagine this topic has been discussed many times before however I
>  > haven't been that active on the list for a while.
>  >  It appears that the 200LX Lotus 123 isn't Y2K compliant. At least with
>  > regards to @datevalue functions. Is there a patch/fix for this or a
>  > workaround?
>  >
>  >   Thanks.
>  >
>  >  -Eric
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Siliconfilm at:
           http://www.siliconfilm.com/mainindex.htm
present another approach which should appeal to
pros in film photography, with amassed equipment,
but want to enter the digital photo arena.  If and when
Siliconfilm can make their read & write and resolution
figures comparable, the idea should be a winner.

Ray


On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:14:34 -0700 Colin Thompson <burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET>
writes:
> While searching for CF memory for the Coolpix 990 I found this Site.
> Very
> interesting reading.
> http://www.robgalbraith.com/reports/storage_media.html
>
> Colin
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Hi Tom,

>At 05:26 PM 8/13/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Lotus 123 is Y2K compliant; just enter years after 1999 with 3 digits.
>For example, year 2000 needs to be entered as 100, year 2001 as 101,
>and so on.


  Thanks. I didn't know that.
 But it seems 123 is still going to make life difficult for me. I'd been
hitting the Fn Date keys to throw in today's date and then having a formula
in another cell work on that date, @datevalue(). How am I going to enter
dates now? Will I have to do it manually each time?



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Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:19:07 -0400 (EDT)

05h02m18s ago ...
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Mark Shields wrote:

> I recall mention of auto shutdown for the 200LX after a certain
> time, to conserve battery power. However, mine sometimes does
> this, and others it does not. I've not been able to discover any
> pattern, nor can I find any reference to it in the manual. Am I
> imagining things?
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.

The default shutdown time is 3 minutes without activity.  It can be
adjusted up or down in software.  Buddy can do it, also (I think)
LXPro and LXStat.  If it doesn't shut down AT ALL, some program may be
disabling light sleep. That will prevent the LX from automatically
entering deep sleep (shutdown).  LXPro and LXStat both report the
light sleep status (enabled or disabled) and allow you to change the
setting.


HTH

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re:
>123 is date compliant to 2099.

Darn it!

Hope you all have a patch for me by then ;-)

--tim

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>The default shutdown time is 3 minutes without activity.  It can be
>adjusted up or down in software.  Buddy can do it, also (I think)
>LXPro and LXStat.  If it doesn't shut down AT ALL, some program may be
>disabling light sleep. That will prevent the LX from automatically
>entering deep sleep (shutdown).  LXPro and LXStat both report the
>light sleep status (enabled or disabled) and allow you to change the
>setting.

...or you might have the charger plugged in

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On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:16:49 EDT, Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I recall mention of auto shutdown for the 200LX after a certain
> time, to conserve battery power. However, mine sometimes does
> this, and others it does not. I've not been able to discover any
> pattern, nor can I find any reference to it in the manual. Am I
> imagining things?
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I have seen the same behaviour on my machine. I think it goes back to
normal after a ctrl+alt+del. I have not found a pattern either.

Regards

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> >Lotus 123 is Y2K compliant; just enter years after 1999 with 3
> >digits. For example, year 2000 needs to be entered as 100, year 2001
> >as 101, and so on.
>
>  But it seems 123 is still going to make life difficult for me. I'd
>  been
> hitting the Fn Date keys to throw in today's date and then having a
> formula in another cell work on that date, @datevalue(). How am I
> going to enter dates now? Will I have to do it manually each time?

There are probably several solutions, but since I don't know exactly
what you're trying to achieve, I'll venture at one or two.

You can program a one-liner macro in the spreadsheet (like Alt-D)
to lay down "@datevalue(@int(@now))" into a cell and that puts the
current day's datevalue in there.

Or if you wanted this function to be universal to other
spreadsheets, you can program an LX Macro function (Fn-F1-10)
to lay down the same, or even program the function to lay down the
date any way you want, for instance you can write the normal Fn-
Date using {Date} and pre-pending the year with a "1".  That should
hold you over for 99 years or so.

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I have 1 copy (used) of the American Heritage Dictionary - DOS
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Asking $25.00 which includes shipment within continental United States.

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Great Longden, this is just the type of thing I need. I'm going to try out
the first method which hopefully will work out fine for my needs.

BTW, I'm curious to know how would I Pre-pend the year with a "1" as you
mention below? I'm thinking that when you hit the Fn Date keys you get
something like 14-Aug-00 (as I have it set up). How can you add a "1" in
the middle of something like that? I'd need the output to be 14-Aug-100.


>You can program a one-liner macro in the spreadsheet (like Alt-D)
>to lay down "@datevalue(@int(@now))" into a cell and that puts the
>current day's datevalue in there.
>
>Or if you wanted this function to be universal to other
>spreadsheets, you can program an LX Macro function (Fn-F1-10)
>to lay down the same, or even program the function to lay down the
>date any way you want, for instance you can write the normal Fn-
>Date using {Date} and pre-pending the year with a "1".  That should
>hold you over for 99 years or so.




>
>- Longden
>
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>

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Date:         Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:51:30 -0400
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Hi Ron,

>&Sn (DSR Override)
>Data Set Ready Control
>
>&S0 -- Causes DSR signal to be active at all times.
>&S1-- Causes DSR signal to be active according to the V.25 protocol.

I listed the technical definition within my question.  My problem is that
I just don't know enough about the Data Set Ready Control to determine
which setting is best for connecting to ISPs.

Would it be best to rely on the modem to handle the Data Set Ready
Control or should I set it as always active?

Cheers!

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Mike Kopplin writes:
> Anyone interested in running SSH on the LX?
>
> I've just this morning successfully made a secure connection with an SSH
> client for DOS (SSHDOS v0.1 by Nagy Daniel) running on my LX under the
> LXTCP environment. That's the good news....

It sounds interesting. Could you give somee details of how it works, what it
does exactly, what features it provides and what modifications you had to make
to get it running

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|> echo set day=%%4 > the.bat
|> echo. | date > temp.bat
|> call temp.bat
>It took me 1 hour to hack it. These three batch lines contain
>more brain than any other batch file I came across.
>I recommend everybody to try to understand, what's
>going on here. I learned for the rest of my DOS life.

coming from Stefan this sounds important.... would you kindly enlighten me
what this is "good" for

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> It sounds interesting. Could you give somee details of how it works, what it
> does exactly, what features it provides and what modifications you had to make
> to get it running

Version 0.1 was compiled for 386+, so I made a few changes to compile
under BC 2.0 and compiled 186 code. This is irrelevant now, as the
new release (0.2) at http://www.vein.hu/~nagyd/ now works on the LX.

As for what it does, see my other post, and to quote from the SSH FAQ

"Secure Shell (SSH) is a program to log into another computer over a
network, to execute commands in a remote machine, and to move files from
one machine to another. It provides strong authentication and secure
communications over unsecure channels. It is intended as a replacement for
telnet, rlogin, rsh, and rcp."

SSHDOS uses the SSH1 protocol and this part seems to work well
connecting to most servers. It does not yet implement the secure moving of
files (SCP - secure copy), but the author is working on that.

To use it, just copy it to a directory with a properly configured
wattcp.cfg, run your packet driver, and type

sshdos username remote_host

If the remote host is running a compatible sshd, the program will generate
a session key, then ask for your password. If this works, you have a
secure connection, and your communications with the remote system are now
secure from snooping.

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On 13 Aug 2000, at 23:04, Eric Greenspoon wrote:

BTW, the first method which lays down @datevalue(@int(@now))
also needs F9 and Enter.  See the reason?  If you just lay down
the formula above, the value will automatically change with the next
day.  F9 forces a recalculation of the cell (ie, evaluates the formula
into a hard number), and Enter finalizes it.

As to the pre-pending of the year in a system macro, if the macro
{Date} gets you 14-Aug-00, the cursor is normally left at the end of
the date, so your macro should cursor over to add the "1"....
{Date}{Left}{Left}1{Right}{Right}

and that should get you 14-Aug-100

The above is keyed in from memory, so I may not have gotten the
names right for the keys ... but you get the idea.

- Longden

> Great Longden, this is just the type of thing I need. I'm going to try
> out the first method which hopefully will work out fine for my needs.
>
> BTW, I'm curious to know how would I Pre-pend the year with a "1" as
> you mention below? I'm thinking that when you hit the Fn Date keys you
> get something like 14-Aug-00 (as I have it set up). How can you add a
> "1" in the middle of something like that? I'd need the output to be
> 14-Aug-100.
>
>
> >You can program a one-liner macro in the spreadsheet (like Alt-D) to
> >lay down "@datevalue(@int(@now))" into a cell and that puts the
> >current day's datevalue in there.
> >
> >Or if you wanted this function to be universal to other
> >spreadsheets, you can program an LX Macro function (Fn-F1-10)
> >to lay down the same, or even program the function to lay down the
> >date any way you want, for instance you can write the normal Fn- Date
> >using {Date} and pre-pending the year with a "1".  That should hold
> >you over for 99 years or so.

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Eric Greenspoon wrote:

> BTW, I'm curious to know how would I Pre-pend the year with a "1" as you
> mention below? I'm thinking that when you hit the Fn Date keys you get
> something like 14-Aug-00 (as I have it set up). How can you add a "1" in
> the middle of something like that? I'd need the output to be 14-Aug-100.


Hmm,

I never thought of using fnDate to put the current date into
123. i like it. I read what has been written and switched my
date format in system setup to YY-MM-DD
Then I wrote a macro in system macros, here it is
@date(1{Date}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Del},{Right}{Right},{Del}{Right}{Right}{Enter}

Works today, I'll have to chage the system date and test it
on a shorter month.
Just tested it on 1-1-2001, works fine.



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However this is dynamic. I set the date to 1-2-2000 and did
this and it showed 1-2-2000 in a1
then I save the sheet and rebooted, switched the date back
to 8-13-2000 and loaded my test sheet. a1 now showed
8-13-2000!
> >You can program a one-liner macro in the spreadsheet (like Alt-D)
> >to lay down "@datevalue(@int(@now))" into a cell and that puts the
> >current day's datevalue in there.

I next took my macro for prepending 1 to the date and added
changing the system date format to the YY-MM-DD format,
inserting the date and then switching the date back to my
regular date format.

So I have a macro as follows
{Setup}{F2}{Tab}{Tab}{Down}{Down}{Down}{Enter}{123}@date(1{Date}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Backsp},{Right}{Right},{Del}{Right}{Right}{Enter}{Setup}{F2}{Tab}{Tab}{Up}{Up}{Enter}{Menu}q

This does the trick.

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I think people would be really keen.
Cheers
Tony.

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Assuming that copyright issues could be overcome, how much of a need or
demand is there in the 200LX world for a CD-ROM of the original Agenda
manuals in Adobe Acrobat format?

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Hi Teo,

>If you check out http://www.modemhelp.org/inits/usrobotics.html , the
only
>Robotics modem listed there to use &S1 in its default modem string is
the
>Sportster V34.  Seems that it is best to use the default &S string for
your
>modem as displayed by an AT&F command.

Yep.  That's one of the sites I've checked in my search for an answer.  I
guess I should have also mentioned that my modem is none other than the
Sportster  V34. <g>  That's why I'm still looking for an answer.

>What is important for optimum high speed connection is that Hardware
Flow
>Control (RTS/CTS) should be enabled, and to open the COM port to 115kbps
>with the help of a 16550 UART chip.

I've got those things covered.

>You may also wish to check out the 3Com support site at
>http://consumer.3com.com/sitenav/analogmodemsupport.cfm , and ask them.

I've checked out that site too.  The &Sn question still remains
unanswered.  Hopefully someone on this elist will understand that setting
well enough to make a recommendation.

Cheers!

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Hi Hans,

>As I'm operating 3 different PCMCIA modems and a cell phone for internet
>connection I've decided to use the least common init string to all
>hardware setup situations. That's a plain AT&F - and it works fine all
>the time and everywhere.

The Sportster's hardware flow control template is called with "AT&F1, so
I have an init string of AT&F1S10=50 for my Sportster v34 modem, so far.
As I understand it, the "S10=50" setting keeps the modem from hanging up
when a connection is lost for only a split second. That little additional
modem instruction that I put into the Windows modem setup section does
wonders for AOL users in my area of the country.

I'm trying to find out if it would be best to add "&S1' to my current
rather generic modem string to ensure the smoothest flow of data.

>Only in predial situations (hotel, business)
>do I have to add an X3. That's it :)

That was an excellent tip for the road warrior. Thank you, Hans. :-)
I'll make a note of that for my travels.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

BTW, I have a Motorola Power Series 14.4 PCMCIA Cellular modem that I'll
be setting up with Nettamer on my HP200LX, after I have successfully set
it up and configured it on my desktop configuration.  I'm still working
on a good init string for that one. Since I purchased it from a local
used computer store without a manual, I don't have all the info I need to
make up a good init string for it.

Power drain is only 30mA in low power mode (Does anyone know if that is
lower than the new 56K card modem that Thaddeus offers now?), but I have
no manual to show how to set it to that mode.  Motorola's own modem
support website doesn't even mention this modem, but I found the
following three init strings for it on ModemHelp.Org:

AT&F&D0\Q3S0=0
AT&F&C1&D2\Q3%C0
AT&F&C1&D0\Q3\V3

If I can't figure out which one is best and what setting actually turns
on low power mode, I'll try the generic AT&F and see what happens.

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You would need to make sure that it was generated with indexes so all the
books can easily be searched, makes it much more useful.

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In message "Lotus Agenda Manuals"
    on 00/08/12, Roger Feinman <Feinmanr@AOL.COM> writes:
>Assuming that copyright issues could be overcome, how much of a need or
>demand is there in the 200LX world for a CD-ROM of the original Agenda
>manuals in Adobe Acrobat format?

I can't know how much people need it but I strongly need it.;-)

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> Can I "instruct" Gdbio not to extract the Notefield from the
> Hplx phonebook. The Contacts when I get it on the Rex is so damn slow.
> Can not be used at all. (Should maybe read the Gdbio docs? :-)

Yes you can.  Interesting thought you have, that the inclusion of
notes causes the slow performance that has been reported.  Check it
out - I would appreciate it.  In the docs it says what to do - I
think you just omit one of the parameters.  Alternatively you can
just grep the notes out as follows:

  grep -v "N" <file.in >file.out

> I read in the beta docs that there are work going on getting Hplx
> Notebooks into the Rex. I am _really_ looking forward to this. I would
> like to merge 2-3 Hplx Notebooks and then transfer this to the Rex.
> Ofcourse with a "Title + text" setup..:-)

I'm putting this off until the appt is done.  I'm nearly there.  The
HP data interpretation has been almost as difficult as that of the Rex!

> Is it possible in the next beta to not reset the Rex3 when you dump the
> files from the Hplx to the Rex3?
> I see that my "Please return too ..." Is reset and also time and home
> town settings. Any solution to this?

I honestly don't know.  I don't know where in the REX this data is
stored.  I have some long range plans to identify this data, however.
Another approach is to change the Rex memory rather than generate it.
This, too is a long term goal.  I will continue pondering these
problems as I work on appts.

-Chris

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In answer to our de-cloaked doctor,

This is good for impressing other hacks, who are forever looking for tools such
as this to fix/solve a problem.

A very clever use of some obscure DOS tricks in combination with the mundane in
order to get a desired result.

The essentials of the original batch file (with apologies to the author):

@echo off
rem assigns the current day three letter abreviation to environment
rem variable "day"
rem ************************************
echo set day=%%4 > the.bat
echo. | date > temp.bat
call temp.bat
del temp.bat
del the.bat

As the remarks describe, the batch file results in the day of the week (ie,
"Mon") being placed into the DOS environment (the same place where your PATH
gets stored) for programs (and other batch files) that may need it.

     echo set day=%%4 > the.bat

This line stores a single command "set day=%4" in a file called "the.bat" (for
reasons to be seen).  The %% is needed in order to properly evaluate to a single
% when used in a batch file as a text string.

     echo. | date > temp.bat

This brings it all together.  "echo.|date" is a trick way of issuing the DOS
date command.  The trailing period on the echo tells DOS to send an Enter to the
date command, because normally the date command displays the date and then waits
for you to enter a new date, or press enter.  The output of the date command
creates a file called "temp.bat", which contains something like:

     The current date is: Mon 08/14/2000

Finally, the line

     call temp.bat

"executes" that file as the command ...  "The current date is: Mon 08/14/2000".

So you see, if DOS sees that on the command line, it would interpret "The" as a
command and all the other words as parameters.  "the.bat" created earlier is
used by DOS to interpret the line, and "the.bat" picks up the 4th parameter
which is the string "Mon" and uses it to set a variable called "day".  The rest
of the batch file is cleanup.

You could also modify the batch file to store the %5 text (08/14/2000) into the
environment, and likewise use the trick for the "time" command rather than
"date", tho that is less useful.

- Longden





Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> on 08/13/2000 09:02:57 PM

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|> echo set day=%%4 > the.bat
|> echo. | date > temp.bat
|> call temp.bat
>It took me 1 hour to hack it. These three batch lines contain
>more brain than any other batch file I came across.
>I recommend everybody to try to understand, what's
>going on here. I learned for the rest of my DOS life.

coming from Stefan this sounds important.... would you kindly enlighten me
what this is "good" for

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At $700 for a 24 shot 100 ISO film (albeit reusable), they have a ways to go in
the cost and film speed areas too, not to mention that the field of view for the
effective image capture is only about 1/3 of what shows in a normal film SLR
viewfinder.

The problem may be that by the time they have the cost and technical factors
ironed out, the existing digital cameras will have leapfrogged also in features
and lower cost.  The issue will probably come down to whether a camera designed
from the ground-up as a digicam offers significant benefits compared to a film
camera using digital media.  The Nikon D1 and F100 comparisons are probably the
start of this.  And most of the amassed equipment may be lenses which may be
adaptable to future high-end digital cameras too, so your investment loss may
only be the camera body (which is still a significant cost for pros who may have
several).

Film cameras, like classic computers (such as the LX) have evolved to perform a
basic task very well, and will continue to do so, but will labor when a new
design paradigm is introduced (ie, GUI and networking for the LX).  I haven't
used enough digicams to know if there are similar "killer" pro features becoming
evident.  On-camera image preview/review is an important part of many digicams
now, but is probably less important when the camera/media can be counted on to
take the picture seen in the viewfinder during the shutter release (still a
struggle on many digicams).

- Longden





Ray Simons <ray.simons@JUNO.COM> on 08/13/2000 07:56:28 PM

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Siliconfilm at:
           http://www.siliconfilm.com/mainindex.htm
present another approach which should appeal to
pros in film photography, with amassed equipment,
but want to enter the digital photo arena.  If and when
Siliconfilm can make their read & write and resolution
figures comparable, the idea should be a winner.

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I have not received any postings from the list since August 1?
What have I missed? I still get the Digest which I normally
delete. I will watch out for answers on the next distribution?

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IMHI, the dedicated pro digital camera is going to win.  White Balance is
critical in the digital world.  I fail to see how this can be easily set
with the Siliconfilm product.

Colin

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Subject: Off topic: digital cameras



Film cameras, like classic computers (such as the LX) have evolved to
perform a
basic task very well, and will continue to do so, but will labor when a new
design paradigm is introduced (ie, GUI and networking for the LX).  I
haven't
used enough digicams to know if there are similar "killer" pro features
becoming
evident.  On-camera image preview/review is an important part of many
digicams
now, but is probably less important when the camera/media can be counted on
to
take the picture seen in the viewfinder during the shutter release (still a
struggle on many digicams).

- Longden

Siliconfilm at:
           http://www.siliconfilm.com/mainindex.htm
present another approach which should appeal to
pros in film photography, with amassed equipment,
but want to enter the digital photo arena.

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I've always read that encrypted applications like SSH and SSL could not work
well on the LX because of the slow CPU. If SSH is possible then it seems
that SSL may be do-able as well. I figure SSL would be even slower because
the app would have to go fetch some public key for the PKI stuff. I guess if
we're talking web browsing it would be even slower cause of all the extra
crub web pages send. I just wonder if, considering the SSH is do-able, is
SSL a bit more feasable than previously thought.


BTW: For those who do not know, SSL is the encryption used in banking
transactions through web browsers. Kinda like when you enter your credit
card to buy something and the sight assures you that it is secure. They make
it secure in two ways: they use  a protocol that encrypts traffic so that no
one can get your card number. They also use PKI (public key infrastructure)
which is a way to have a third party (likem verisign) verify that "you are
who you say you are". This way you can know you're not sending your credit
card info to a hijacked/re-directed site. If the site has been truly
infiltrated in situ then your info is not safe.

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I'm not a pro photographer by any stretch, but hasn't white balance always been
dealt with using lens filters in the pre-digital world?

- Longden





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IMHI, the dedicated pro digital camera is going to win.  White Balance is
critical in the digital world.  I fail to see how this can be easily set
with the Siliconfilm product.

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I have read here about people succesfully logging in to their Win95
machines with the help of mochaPPP from palmgear.com and LXTCP

But have anyone tried this with WWW/LX?
How did it go and how did You do it?


      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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I have a ExtProg in www/lx that logs in to my Unix account so I can run
micq and other good things from my hp.
But now that I have installed News3 it only runs News3 and not my login
script.
If I trade places with the two scripts it only runs the first robot
script.
* Why?
* What do I do to fix the problem?

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And secondly:
Can I remove the entries that ends with =3D0 ? Is =3D1 the default
Like:
ManualPack=3D0
HangUp=3D1
Can I remove any of these by looking at the 0 or 1


My post.cfg looks like:
...
SYSTEM
PreOnline=3DSETCOM.BAT
ExtProg=3DROBOT.EXE NNTP
ExtProg=3Dc:\io\www\robot.exe c:\io\www\robot\abc.scr
ExtProg=3Dc:\io\www\dummy.com
Editor=3Dc:\text\paledit\pe.exe $f
EditSM=3DMEMO b800 c800 2166 0231
HangUp=3D1
TimeZone=3D+1
Overlap=3D0
Quote=3D>_
ManualPack=3D0
Clog=3D1
TopLines=3D0
...

      /tomas moberg
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Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:13:53 -0400 (EDT)

01h40m40s ago ...
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> I'm not a pro photographer by any stretch, but hasn't white balance
> always been dealt with using lens filters in the pre-digital world?

Sure.  And any digicam with accessory threads on the lens can also use
them.  However, trying to combine filters to compensate for mixed
light sources (flourescent, incandescent, and window light etc.) can
get a little hairy.  Electronic white balance has an advantage there.
Also less stuff to carry  <g>


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This is probably digressing into another religious war, but what the heck...
it's Monday.

The digicam advantage is by no means certain with regards to white balance.  At
least on my Canon A50, I can't combine white balance filters for mixed sources,
so combined filters is not a done-deal for all digicams ... whereas any 35mm SLR
would only need a combination of readily available (if somewhat bulky) filters.

And some people would probably prefer the certainty of being able to deal with a
photographic situation with a known behavior (screwing on filters) vs having to
step thru several levels of menus that vary from camera to camera.  Admittedly
this depends on the quality of the design engineering, but screwing on a filter
is less dependent on design elements.

At some point in time, standard design elements and performance in digicams will
undoubtedly propel them to the pro-market forefront, but for many people, that
time hasn't come yet.

The argument for digital vs film will probably echo to the arguments for GUI vs
command-line, and mouse vs keyboard.  They've told us long ago that "DOS is
dead" ... yet we exist as a contradiction to that fact.  A lot depends on your
specific needs ... different stokes and all that ....

- Longden





Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> on 08/14/2000 11:11:47 AM

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> I'm not a pro photographer by any stretch, but hasn't white balance
> always been dealt with using lens filters in the pre-digital world?

Sure.  And any digicam with accessory threads on the lens can also use
them.  However, trying to combine filters to compensate for mixed
light sources (flourescent, incandescent, and window light etc.) can
get a little hairy.  Electronic white balance has an advantage there.
Also less stuff to carry  <g>

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With more sophisticated digital cameras, you simply calibrate the white
balance for the specific lighting situation.  It takes all of ten seconds
and there is no guess work.

Colin

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Subject: Re: Off topic: digital cameras


And some people would probably prefer the certainty of being able to deal
with a
photographic situation with a known behavior (screwing on filters) vs having
to
step thru several levels of menus that vary from camera to camera.
Admittedly
this depends on the quality of the design engineering, but screwing on a
filter
is less dependent on design elements.

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John,
>
> If I can't figure out which one is best and what setting actually turns
> on low power mode, I'll try the generic AT&F and see what happens.

I've stopped playing around - takes up too much time and there are so
many parameters which make up a successful connection.

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Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:05:42 -0400 (EDT)

02h48m22s ago ...
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> This is probably digressing into another religious war, but what the =
heck...
> it's Monday.

Infidel!   <G>

> The digicam advantage is by no means certain with regards to white =
balance.
> At least on my Canon A50, I can't combine white balance filters for =
mixed
> sources, so combined filters is not a done-deal for all digicams ... =
whereas
> any 35mm SLR would only need a combination of readily available (if
> somewhat bulky) filters.

Actually, I'm basically a camera luddite.  What I'd like to see is a
full manual control digicam, with good old-fashioned dials for aperture
and shutter speed, and manual focus (with true macro).  What I have is
the Epson 850, which allows manual aperture and shutter speed (thru the
LCD display), but no manual focus.  I do find the electronic white =
balance
control very handy.

The problem with filters and mixed light sources is that guessing at
the color balance doesn't work all that well, and also not being a
professional photographer, I don't own a color meter for accurate
checks.

Colin's comments re custom color balance are true for the 850 - it is
easy and quick to create a new balance.


Later,

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Eric,

I don't know of any way to use Fn-Date in Lotus 123 to enter dates
after 1999. The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a way to
have the output of Fn-Date use a 4-digit year.

You probably need to manually edit the dates.

Tom


On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:12:48 -0400, Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA> wrote:

 > Hi Tom,
 >
 > >At 05:26 PM 8/13/00 -0400, you wrote:
 > >Lotus 123 is Y2K compliant; just enter years after 1999 with 3 digits.
 > >For example, year 2000 needs to be entered as 100, year 2001 as 101,
 > >and so on.
 >
 >   Thanks. I didn't know that.
 >  But it seems 123 is still going to make life difficult for me. I'd been
 > hitting the Fn Date keys to throw in today's date and then having a formula
 > in another cell work on that date, @datevalue(). How am I going to enter
 > dates now? Will I have to do it manually each time?
 >
 >  -Eric
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Actually, I just tried it and it also works if you use a 4-digit
year. @datevalue("14.08.100") results in the same day number as
@datevalue("14.08.2000"). Interesting...

Tom


On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:57:22 -0400, "Ken Hansen" <n2vip@bellatlantic.net> wrote:

 > Ugh - thay is *horrible* - nearly non-functional.
 >
 > What "kool-aid" do I have to drink to think of every date I enter as a
 > relative date off of the year 1900!?
 >
 > There will be a big pause if I have to enter 02-14-101 to mean next
 > valentines day!
 >
 > Ken
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
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 > To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
 > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 5:26 PM
 > Subject: Re: Lotus 123 Y2K
 >
 > > Lotus 123 is Y2K compliant; just enter years after 1999 with 3 digits.
 > > For example, year 2000 needs to be entered as 100, year 2001 as 101,
 > > and so on.
 > >
 > > Tom

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Colin,

the news server news.hplx.net is apparently down, and it is not clear
if/when it will be up and running again.

Tom


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 > What have I missed? I still get the Digest which I normally
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 >
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What was interesting in the pre-digicam days was the conversion from mechanical
to electronic controls, when manufacturers tried replacing low-tech dials with
high-tech LCD's and buttons and not recognizing till later that "high-tech"
doesn't mean it works any better.

I'm still pained by how easy it was to read the over/under exposure needle on my
wife's mechanical Canon Ftb compared to many electronic cameras that only flash
a "+/-" sign with no indication of the degree.  My entry-level Canon Rebel was
one of the first Canon electronic cameras to reinstate that feature.

And so history will probably repeat itself with the digicams. I hope It's not
"luddite" to ask them not to fix something that's not broken <g>.

Part of the problem in the camera world deals with patents.  Features on a
camera are often patented by other manufacturers, and the game is to introduce a
new camera that not only has the hot features we all want, but at a price that
can be affordably manufactured, considering the patent royalties to be paid.
This came out in some camera related discussions over why each new camera did
not always retain all the proven features of the previous model.

Whether this factor will be evident in digicams remains to be seen.  Computer
manufacturers have always been notoriously promiscuous in whose features they
breed into the next model ... and I hope that carries over to the digicam world
as well.

- Longden





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Actually, I'm basically a camera luddite.  What I'd like to see is a
full manual control digicam, with good old-fashioned dials for aperture
and shutter speed, and manual focus (with true macro).  What I have is
the Epson 850, which allows manual aperture and shutter speed (thru the
LCD display), but no manual focus.  I do find the electronic white balance
control very handy.

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Does anyone know of a bridge (the card game) program that'll run
properly on the 200LX.=20

I have three, two are in colour which don't show up well on the LX's
lcd screen despite all my tweaking of on - *  and on - /.  The third
has an lcd option which works, but unfortunately is demo only and
needs dollars sent to a US address for registration, not very easy
from the UK - no online registration.

Any ideas?

Thanks,=20

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Tomas Moberg wrote:
> I have a ExtProg in www/lx that logs in to my Unix account so I can run
> micq and other good things from my hp.
> But now that I have installed News3 it only runs News3 and not my login
> script.

Not sure what you refer to by "News3". There is no News/LX
Version 3. It was replaced with a completely different product
called RoboNews/LX.

Also, I am not sure how this connects to ExtProg problem...


> If I trade places with the two scripts it only runs the first robot
> script.
> * Why?
> * What do I do to fix the problem?
>
> ----
>
> And secondly:
> Can I remove the entries that ends with =0 ? Is =1 the default
> Like:
> ManualPack=0
> HangUp=1
> Can I remove any of these by looking at the 0 or 1

In some cases the defalt is 0, in others it is 1. "0"
GENERALLY MEANS "NOT", ManualPack=0 means no, do not manually
pack, i.e. pack automatically. Hangup=1 mean yes, hang up.

> My post.cfg looks like:
> ...
> SYSTEM
> HangUp=1

See above.

> TimeZone=+1

That's time zone, not binary... <G>

> Overlap=0

No, do not overlap the last message (line) when you page down
in List View and message view.

> ManualPack=0

See above.

> Clog=1

Ask annoying confirmation questions over and over again <G>...

> TopLines=0

This is a value: When you download a header-only, TopLines
specifies how many lines from the message to also download.
TopLines=5 downloads the first 5 lines of the message, etc.

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As far as the HP C200 goes, I have had to use only the optical view
finder. Using the color LCD display causes a set of 4 AA batteries to
last about 10 photos. No LCD display will allow 100 or better photos on a
set of batteries. This is with autoflash and auto focus.

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For those of you who may have had some interest in my questions
about using the environment and hidden files for dialing my ISPs,
here's my final solution. (for now!)  I decided not to include the
calling card PINs on my 200LX, but enter them each time needed.
After all, they are only four digits and I don't need them that often.

The batch file is below for anyone interested.  It is set up to handle
my current main options: 2 dialup accounts and two calling cards.  I
have two sets of pppd.cfg, tcp.cfg, and incoming.jn files (one for
each account's servers), with extensions that match my abbreviation
for each account.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions!

Ted


dial.bat

:: batch file to logon to selected ISP, download all messages, and logoff

@echo off
if '%1'=='nl' goto begin
if '%1'=='ins' goto begin

:: error message for invalid parameters
@cls
echo .
echo . Try again!
echo .
echo . Syntax is: dial ISP <PHONE> <PIN>
echo .
echo .         where ISP = nl or ins
echo .
echo .             PHONE = med or mci (if long distance)
echo .
echo .           and PIN = 4 digit code (if long distance)
echo .
echo . Note: set PREFIX environment variable before running, if needed
echo .        (e.g., set prefix=9,)
goto end

:begin
@cd \prgms\lxtcp

:: set server configuration
@copy tcp.%1 tcp.cfg > nul

:: set PHONE environment variable with number to be dialed
if '%1'=='nl' set phone=7757000
if '%1'=='ins' set phone=%PREFIX%18004699990
if '%2'=='mci' set phone=%PREFIX%18008888000,,,,7654632155%3,,,7657757000
if '%2'=='med' set phone=%PREFIX%18002255288,,,,,07657757000,,,8571633934%3

:: set newsgroup file
@copy mailbox\incoming.%1 mailbox\incoming.jn > nul

:: cut out rest of script for testing without modem present
rem goto end

:main
::  * epppd calls chat to control the modem dial-up
::  * chat uses phone number in PHONE environment variable
::  * pppd.%1 sets login configuration
@epppd file pppd.%1 connect "chat -t120 REPORT CONNECT ABORT BUSY '' AT&F OK ATDT%PHONE% CONNECT"

:: repeat until connected
if not exist ip-up.bat goto main

:: clear environemnt variable
set phone=

:: synch system time with level 2 ntp server
ntime molecule.ecn.purdue.edu

:: call mail transfer agent
@lxmta

:: update server specific newsgroup file
@copy mailbox\incoming.jn mailbox\incoming.%1 > nul

@termin 0x60
@del c:\prgms\lxtcp\ip-up.bat

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I've decided to go with the System macro method as it works out to be
easier for my needs right now. Lotus is a strange animal. When I keyed in
the macro as you suggested below it stopped with a beep in edit mode with
the cursor in the middle of the string.
And didn't have the correct date keyed in.
I ended up using:
 '{date}{enter}{F2}{left}{left}1{right}{right}{enter}

This macro is nice because it takes care of the annoying beep.
Thanks for your help!


>BTW, the first method which lays down @datevalue(@int(@now))
>also needs F9 and Enter.  See the reason?  If you just lay down
>the formula above, the value will automatically change with the next
>day.  F9 forces a recalculation of the cell (ie, evaluates the formula
>into a hard number), and Enter finalizes it.
>
>As to the pre-pending of the year in a system macro, if the macro
>{Date} gets you 14-Aug-00, the cursor is normally left at the end of
>the date, so your macro should cursor over to add the "1"....
>{Date}{Left}{Left}1{Right}{Right}
>
>and that should get you 14-Aug-100
>

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In a message dated 8/14/00 4:56:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK writes:

> You would need to make sure that it was generated with indexes so all the
>  books can easily be searched, makes it much more useful.
>
This may be a tall order.  I've never tried Capture on mixed graphics and
text.  It might be simpler and faster just linking the tables of contents and
paper index entries with the text, and doing a lot of cross-reference links.
I recently acquired a shrink-wrapped copy of Agenda 2.0 and the manuals are,
as one might expect, in pristine shape (unlike my beaten-up set, nearly 10
years old).  I would like to preserve them for eternity  (or at least until
2039, when the program should implode.

-roger-

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I just changed the system ate a few times and tested the
@datevalue(@int(@now)){F9}(Enter}
macro and it seems to work well.
And I do have to admit that it is a LOT shorter than

{Setup}{F2}{Tab}{Tab}{Down}{Down}{Down}{Enter}{123}
@date(1{Date}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}
{Backsp},{Right}{Right},{Del}{Right}{Right}{Enter}
{Setup}{F2}{Tab}{Tab}{Up}{Up}{Enter}{Menu}q


Eric Greenspoon wrote:
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
>   I ended up using a shorter system macro to do the trick (see HP List).
>
>  Thanks for your help!
>
>  -Eric
>   I ended up using a shorter system macro to do the trick

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Avi M. D&A wrote:

> As of a few minutes ago we are all caught up with all orders!
> it was a heck of marathon job to get everything "out the
> door", but nothing is outstanding now.
>
> Now, there is no guarantee that this will last <G>... In fact
> a fax just arrived a moment ago... Here we go again! <G>...

Well, that problem is easy to fix.  You all just need to stop producing =
such useful software and you won't have so many people eager to upgrade =
<g>.

Steve Carder (using Post/LX v3)

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Date:         Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:08:39 +0200
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              Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
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Hi,

Following Tony Hutchins' advice I added ExplodeDigest=3D1 in Posl.cfg but =
it
has no effect on the HPLX digest. I read somewhere that it may be linked =
to
the way the ISP processes MIME attachement. Should I change ISP to be =
able to
ExplodeDigest ?.

Tx,

 \/
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Have you tried to run D:\BIN\MONO8025.COM before starting the bridge game
programs in color?  That's the purpose of this program and it may help to
force the system to respond as a monochrome display adapter.

Alan

>From: Peter Hayes mailto:pedroh@BTINTERNET.COM
>Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 6:09 PM
>
>Does anyone know of a bridge (the card game) program that'll run
>properly on the 200LX.
>
>I have three, two are in colour which don't show up well on the LX's
>lcd screen despite all my tweaking of on - *  and on - /.

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> Have you tried to run D:\BIN\MONO8025.COM before starting the bridge game
> programs in color?  That's the purpose of this program and it may help to
> force the system to respond as a monochrome display adapter.

There's also CGAHELP.  It requires non-trivial amount of tailoring for
a particular program, but it does work.

-Chris Lott

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Glad you have something that works.

The instructions I gave were from memory, so I didn't know at the time what the
correct Lotus macro designators were for F9 (recalc key) and Enter.

If you wanted a date macro in 123, this would be how it'd look:

     @datevalue(@int(@now)){calc}~

1) This enters the formula for the current date in the cell ->
@datevalue(@int(@now))

2) Then the {calc} does the F9 recalc to convert the formula to a hard number in
edit mode.

3) Then the "~" does the Enter to complete the cell.

4) Assign a RangeName to the above (like \d) and then Alt-d should execute the
macro into whatever cell the cursor is positioned.

This would leave you with an integer number like 36753 for today's date 8/15/00,
and /RangeFormatDate will get the display right.

- Longden





Eric Greenspoon <ericgree@ENOREO.ON.CA> on 08/14/2000 09:43:42 PM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Re: Lotus 123 Y2K



I've decided to go with the System macro method as it works out to be
easier for my needs right now. Lotus is a strange animal. When I keyed in
the macro as you suggested below it stopped with a beep in edit mode with
the cursor in the middle of the string.
And didn't have the correct date keyed in.
I ended up using:
 '{date}{enter}{F2}{left}{left}1{right}{right}{enter}

This macro is nice because it takes care of the annoying beep.
Thanks for your help!


>BTW, the first method which lays down @datevalue(@int(@now))
>also needs F9 and Enter.  See the reason?  If you just lay down
>the formula above, the value will automatically change with the next
>day.  F9 forces a recalculation of the cell (ie, evaluates the formula
>into a hard number), and Enter finalizes it.
>
>As to the pre-pending of the year in a system macro, if the macro
>{Date} gets you 14-Aug-00, the cursor is normally left at the end of
>the date, so your macro should cursor over to add the "1"....
>{Date}{Left}{Left}1{Right}{Right}

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Date:         Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:10:22 +0000
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Sorry I missed the original post but I use "BridgePal" v2.02 which I think
I got from walnut creek....   this works well on the 200lx and asks you up
front if you want colour or b&w.    I cannot tell you how strong a program
it is - I suspect quite weak as I can beat it about 50% of the time and
I'm not a good player (i play for fun, not serious club bridge).

PS sorry about the company speil about sanctions etc at the bottom but
I am mailing from the office and it is required.....

Best regards,

Condor

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Shorter, but it serves a different function.

Remember that the longer macro lays down a @date(yy,mm,dd) function into a cell
which you can later edit (if you need to do so), whereas the shorter macro lays
down the integer number for the current date.

If you later wanted to diddle with the date, the longer method is easier since
the mm,dd,yy are easier to modify than a simple integer number.

I have my LX date display permanently set to yy-mm-dd, so laying down the
correct date in 123 is easier (tho I rarely do this anymore), but for people who
use the mm-dd-yy format, you can still use the @date(yy,mm,dd) function in 123
via the system macro, without using Setup to alter the format .... just lay down
the date twice (tho there's a lot of backspacing):


@date({Date}{Right}{Right}{Backsp}{Backsp}{Backsp}{Backsp}{Backsp}{Backsp}1{Right}{Right},{Date}{Backsp}{Backsp}{Backsp}{Left}{Left}{Backsp},{Right}{Right}){Enter}

Hmmm, butt-ugly and still long, but it should do the job and without having to
reset your date format.  The above is keyed in, and not tested .. so don't
expect miracles.  What it does:

@date({Date}
- lays down the formula start and the date, so you get something like
@date(08-15-00

{Right}......1{Right}{Right},
- skips over the yy and erases the mm and dd, adds the '1' to the year and moves
to the end of the text and adds a comma and you should have @date(100,

{Date}....{Enter}
- lays down mm-dd-yy again, and erases the year on the right end and replaces
the dashes with commas and adds the closing paren, and it should now look like
@date(100,08,15)

Again, the above system macro is UNTESTED, and may need correcting for anyone
who wants to try it.

- Longden







"francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com" <francis_patrick_west on 08/14/2000 11:12:34 PM

Please respond to francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Re: Lotus 123 Y2K



I just changed the system ate a few times and tested the
@datevalue(@int(@now)){F9}(Enter}
macro and it seems to work well.
And I do have to admit that it is a LOT shorter than

{Setup}{F2}{Tab}{Tab}{Down}{Down}{Down}{Enter}{123}
@date(1{Date}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}{Left}
{Backsp},{Right}{Right},{Del}{Right}{Right}{Enter}
{Setup}{F2}{Tab}{Tab}{Up}{Up}{Enter}{Menu}q

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Date:         Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:14:16 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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Ofcourse I refer to robonews.
And in post/lx I have two X-boxes one called NNTPDEMO and one other =
called
INTERACT
They both are refering to two different Robot/lx scripts. nntp.scr and
abc.scr.

SYSTEM
...
ExtProg=3DROBOT.EXE NNTP
ExtProg=3Dc:\io\www\robot.exe c:\io\www\robot\abc.scr
...

If I have my SYSTEM section configured as above then I only get
robonews to run  but if I change my SYSTEM section to

SYSTEM
...
ExtProg=3Dc:\io\www\robot.exe c:\io\www\robot\abc.scr
ExtProg=3DROBOT.EXE NNTP
...

Then Post/lx only runs my INTERACT box, thus running the abc.scr with
robot/lx

Am I missing something?

A Meshar wrote:
> Not sure what you refer to by "News3". There is no News/LX
> Version 3. It was replaced with a completely different product
> called RoboNews/LX.
>
> Also, I am not sure how this connects to ExtProg problem...

      /tomas moberg
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To answer my own question -It works very well.
I can run www/lx and its components via my computers com1 instead of
having to connect my hp200lx with a network card.

Tomas =01 Moberg wrote:
> I have read here about people succesfully logging in to their Win95
> machines with the help of mochaPPP from palmgear.com and LXTCP
>
> But have anyone tried this with WWW/LX?
> How did it go and how did You do it?

      /tomas moberg
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Yep, same here using Nettamer. The only problem I have is that Nettamer
expects a modem. I have to fake it with a terminal emulator first before I
can make it start PPP. Once PPP is started on nettamer, I start the MochaPPP
and I can make successful connections. I find that the speed is acceptable
because I can go at 56K. I imagine that this can be a better alternative to
using the ethercard for those that have a Win box.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tomas Moberg mailto:Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE
>Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:14 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: HPLX-L MochaPPP and WWW/LX?
>
>
>To answer my own question -It works very well.
>I can run www/lx and its components via my computers com1 instead of
>having to connect my hp200lx with a network card.
>
>Tomas   Moberg wrote:
>> I have read here about people succesfully logging in to their Win95
>> machines with the help of mochaPPP from palmgear.com and LXTCP
>>
>> But have anyone tried this with WWW/LX?
>> How did it go and how did You do it?
>
>      /tomas moberg
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Yep! This is certainly the truth. If the software weren't
extremely well written and useful, orders would be down to a
trickle. I would assume the number of orders for Version 3 is a
good indication of just how good this product is. I can truly
say that I REALLY like this product.

-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Snipped from Original -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=
-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-
> Well, that problem is easy to fix.  You all just need to stop
> producing such useful software and you won't have so many
> people eager to upgrade <g>.
-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Snipped from Original -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=
-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-

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Roger,

> In a message dated 8/14/00 4:56:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK writes:
>
> > You would need to make sure that it was generated with indexes so all the
> >  books can easily be searched, makes it much more useful.
> >
> This may be a tall order.  I've never tried Capture on mixed graphics and
> text.  It might be simpler and faster just linking the tables of contents and
> paper index entries with the text, and doing a lot of cross-reference links.
> I recently acquired a shrink-wrapped copy of Agenda 2.0 and the manuals are,
> as one might expect, in pristine shape (unlike my beaten-up set, nearly 10
> years old).  I would like to preserve them for eternity  (or at least until
> 2039, when the program should implode.

Thank you very much for entering the trouble of scanning the Agenda
textbooks. A possible way of creating "indexes" or help search the text
would be (if it is plain ASCII text) :

- using the outlook feature of PalEdit to replace chapters by
  PE-headers
- use FIND/LX from DASoft to create approximate search indexes again in
  conjunction with PE

Apart from that one may apply the search function of PE or use search
programs such as GREP or XGREP to find text.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:41:37 -0500
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Right now, there's a good feature on using colored gels over the FLASH of a
digital camera, to help meet the ambient light color/temp. at:

http://www.digitalfoto.com/

They suggest having the flash meet the dominant light to avoid problems
trying to take a daylight balanced photo (flash) in an indoor environment
... the built-in flashes aren't all that great and this might be a help
(they offer some cheap/free sites to get colored gels).

The mag. is run w/ the somewhat irreverent style of Maximum PC (the same
company/publisher must tie them together, as several of the sites are
cross-linked at the top).

The Nikon CoolPix lets you set the White Balance to Auto, or pick .... I've
had my best luck w/ "Auto," the camera's smarter than I am, when it comes to
determining color temp. and PhotoShop can polish the rest(!). Will prob. get
a full power, external flash to blow away any ambient light problems (I
hope).

Looks like a good mag. I've picked up 2 in the newsstands and will likely
subscribe. The CD that *should* come w/ the mag. (always check to see it's
still there, before buying!) has been loaded w/ good demos and free stuff.

YMMV, HTH,

--tim

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On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:41:37 -0500, Tim <palmtop@n-link.com> wrote:

> The Nikon CoolPix lets you set the White Balance to Auto, or pick .... I've
> had my best luck w/ "Auto," the camera's smarter than I am, when it comes to
> determining color temp. and PhotoShop can polish the rest(!). Will prob. get
> a full power, external flash to blow away any ambient light problems (I
> hope).

With my CoolPix when I need to set it I just point it at a white piece of
paper and go from there. I take a lot of pictures in dim light (don't ask)
and it has worked pretty thus far.

Jeff

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Anyone know if there is a version of Linux available for the HP200lx?



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Well I too, received my last PTP yesterday.  While a little sad about it
since I've saved every issue since the first one, I found a small, shining
star near the bottom of one of the last pages.
There I espied a small photo of Nathalie Bugeaud, M.D., a regular
contributer and sometime provocateur on our list.  I must admit that it is a
much more attractive photo than those I've seen the PTP publish of some of
our other list members.  (Thanks Hal for not asking for a photo of me last
month.)  Well, at least to me the secret's out and I don't have to wonder
anymore.  C'est bon!  And the article was interesting too!
Later, bob

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On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:10:22 +0000, "Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge"
<condor@GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM> wrote:

> Sorry I missed the original post but I use "BridgePal" v2.02 which I =
think
> I got from walnut creek....   this works well on the 200lx and asks you=
 up
> front if you want colour or b&w.    I cannot tell you how strong a =
program
> it is - I suspect quite weak as I can beat it about 50% of the time and
> I'm not a good player (i play for fun, not serious club bridge).
=20
Thanks for the tip. I got it at
http://www.orthohelp.com/hp-soft.htm#games

Runs ok in b/w but as you say it's fairly weak, I've been playing the
game for only a couple of years, so it's still useful, thanks.


I tried running mono8025, and it seemed to work for one of the other
progs, but the other tended to crash. Will try cgahelp.

BridgeMate seems the best, but isn't easy to register, and requires
re-registration if run on a new computer. Bit Microsoft-esque...

Thanks to all respondents,

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hello Dos-freaks,

this tricky batch file was a real kick for me....
I have been thinking of an unsolved problem I had some time ago.
I needed the network ID of a network card as a Dos environment
variable for a clipper program, to choose the right printer settings
and so on.
With netware no problem, because you can set a dos variable in the
login script and there is also a clipper tool that reads it with netware.
But with a NT server, this function did not work any more. I found a
little Dos program, that can read the network adress and writes it on
the screen in this format:
CR-LF
Physical node (NIC) address of this workstation is: 00FF0000EE00
CR-LF
In my example I used the program xgrep to extract the line with the
adress, the rest is like in the file we had on the list.
With xgrep it is possible to extract strings from various files and the
system is very flexible ...

this is my batch file, and it does its job very good.
If anybody needs nodeid.com, mail me private please.

rem node should be set as Dos environment variable
nodeid.com > nodeid.txt
rem xgrep extracts the line with the adress - first letter is missing!
xgrep workstation nodeid.txt > temp.bat
rem hysical is first word in temp.bat, ID appears as nr. 8
echo set node=%%8 > hysical.bat
call temp.bat
del hysical.bat
del temp.bat
del nodeid.txt


thanks all who reported the trick and explained it!


73!
Werner OE9FWV



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There is not.

There is a Minix distribution, but it is a non-trivial OS to install =
(IIRC), and
not a feature-full as you might want (since you were asking about =
Linux).

Do a search on minux and 200lx and you should come up with some =
interesting
reading...

(Note: Linux was built to take advantage of Linus's new 386 =
oh-so-long-ago, a
back port of something that resembles Linux may be possible, but 186 =
compat.
was never considered.)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ken London=20
  To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu=20
  Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 5:41 PM
  Subject: Linux


  Anyone know if there is a version of Linux available for the HP200lx?



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is not.</FONT></DIV>
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 You have 2 choices either MINIX or LINUX-ELK (think thats what it's
called)

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On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:14:09 -0400,Ken Hansen <n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET>
wrote:

>>   From: Ken London=20
>>   To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu=20
>>   Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 5:41 PM
>>   Subject: Linux
>>=20
>>=20
>>  Anyone know if there is a version of Linux available for the HP200lx?
>>
>
> There is not.
>=20
> There is a Minix distribution, but it is a non-trivial OS to install =
(IIRC), and
> not a feature-full as you might want (since you were asking about =
Linux).
>=20
> Do a search on minux and 200lx and you should come up with some =
interesting
> reading...
>=20
> (Note: Linux was built to take advantage of Linus's new 386 =
oh-so-long-ago, a
> back port of something that resembles Linux may be possible, but 186 =
compat.
> was never considered.)

There's the ELKS, Embedded Linux Kernel System or something along
those lines, designed specifically for <386 processors.

Peter,

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While 1-2-3 has the feature (I used to develop/sell software; therefore nothing
is a bug!) of somewhat messing-up date formatting with Y2K+ dates, I developed
the following formulae to aid in maintaining a consistent appearance in multi-
year worksheets to sustain my sanity.

Assuming Column A is formatted HIDDEN and contains @DATE(10x,M,D) or equiv:

FORMULA FOR SIMULATING DATE FORM "mm/dd/yy" (format D4) FOR YEAR >=2000:
@REPEAT("0",2-@LENGTH(@STRING(@MONTH(A1),0)))&@STRING(@MONTH(A1),0)&"/"&
@REPEAT("0",2-@LENGTH(@STRING(@DAY(A1),0)))&@STRING(@DAY(A1),0)&"/"&
@RIGHT(@STRING(@YEAR(A1),0),2)
190 chars, all on one line (239 max allowed)

FORMULA FOR SIMULATING DATE FORM "dd-mmm-yy" (format D1) FOR YEAR >=2000:
@REPEAT("0",2-@LENGTH(@STRING(@DAY(A1),0)))&@STRING(@DAY(A1),0)&"-"&
@CHOOSE(@MONTH(A1),"","Jan","Feb","Mar","Apr","May","Jun","Jul","Aug","Sep",
"Oct","Nov","Dec")&"-"&@RIGHT(@STRING(@YEAR(A1),0),2)
217 chars, all one line (239 max allowed)

For example: (all date arithmetic is done using the value in Column A)
             (Columns B and C are strings)
         A              B           C
 1 @date(101,2,28)   02/28/01   28-Feb-01
 2 +A1+1             03/01/01   01-Mar-01

While a bit awkward, it works.  Hope this helps.

Marty Pohl
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A BIG ditto here.

Colin

With my CoolPix when I need to set it I just point it at a white piece of
paper and go from there.

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William,

Thanks for the kind words. I want to make a full disclosure
here, though: William helped me in the last few days prior to
release immensely. I have used his input in the past, and
thought I'd recruit him again. He provided input on the
registration process, the form, the Webpage, and
documentation. Very thorough and I am sure it was very time
consuming for him. I wanted to use someone from the "outside"
of D&A, a customer, with a critical eye. I have been well
rewarded by William (I think one of his emails was even posted
by mistake in public on this list... ;)...). As a small token
of D&A's appreciation, we refused to charge his credit card
for the upgrade and he received a complimentary license.
(Thank you again, William!)

So just so that y'all know... I still don't think his opinion
of the product is biased much by this gift, but I feel easier
to disclose it.

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com

William E. Blankenship wrote:
> Yep! This is certainly the truth. If the software weren't
> extremely well written and useful, orders would be down to a
> trickle. I would assume the number of orders for Version 3 is a
> good indication of just how good this product is. I can truly
> say that I REALLY like this product.
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Snipped from Original -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > Well, that problem is easy to fix.  You all just need to stop
> > producing such useful software and you won't have so many
> > people eager to upgrade <g>.
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Steve,

We tried to stop producing useful programs, but we failed
<G>...

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com


Steve Carder wrote:
> Avi M. D&A wrote:
>
> > As of a few minutes ago we are all caught up with all orders!
> > it was a heck of marathon job to get everything "out the
> > door", but nothing is outstanding now.
> >
> > Now, there is no guarantee that this will last <G>... In fact
> > a fax just arrived a moment ago... Here we go again! <G>...
>
> Well, that problem is easy to fix.  You all just need to stop producing such useful software and you won't have so many people eager to upgrade
> <g>.
>
> Steve Carder (using Post/LX v3)
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Absolutely NO! The issue is not realted to ISPs but to the
processor of the list digest. There is no standard way to
create a digest! Everyone has another idea about it. There is
no practical way to code for all the "dialects" without making
the program larger than life! I suggest that we need to look
at digest explosions in a different way, perhaps give the user
the responsibility to describe the way the digest is formed so
a program can explode it.

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com

Yves Leurquin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Following Tony Hutchins' advice I added ExplodeDigest=1 in Posl.cfg but it
> has no effect on the HPLX digest. I read somewhere that it may be linked to
> the way the ISP processes MIME attachement. Should I change ISP to be able to
> ExplodeDigest ?.
>
> Tx,
>
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Hello Folks,

I want to share with you that Hal Goldstein of Thaddeus
Computing has made it much much easier for his customers (and
ours!) to upgrade to WWW/LX Version 3.

We offer a free upgrade to WWW/LX Version 3 if a customer
purchased after April 1, 2000, with a proof of purchase date.
Hal made it easier: He gave me a list of names and dates for
everyone who purchased WWW/LX Version 3 after April 1, 2000.

So no more faxes of invoices! I can look up the name directly.
Again, he shows his care for this community and his customers!

On behalf of your customers, and D&A: Thank you, Hal.

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Avi,
I'm not sure that I can agree with you.  Or either I really don't
understand.  (More likely!)  I previously had my HPLX list (digest format)
sent to an email address on palmtop.com and read it via the POP3 mailbox set
up for me.  If the digest was very long at all (90% of the time), the entire
list digest would be an attachment to the email.  I switched to a different
POP3 provider several months ago and the entire digest has always been the
text of the email.  The software I use and the processor of the HPLX list
hasn't changed as far as I know.  So, the ISP must have had some effect.
Please enlighten me,
Later, bob

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Hi!, only a little detail, could someone try it
with W2000? It works? ....

Reg's

Fernando Ruiz

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From: epadin@WAGWEB.COM mailto:epadin@WAGWEB.COM
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 6:06 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: MochaPPP and WWW/LX?


Yep, same here using Nettamer. The only problem I have is that Nettamer
expects a modem. I have to fake it with a terminal emulator first before I
can make it start PPP. Once PPP is started on nettamer, I start the
MochaPPP
and I can make successful connections. I find that the speed is acceptable
because I can go at 56K. I imagine that this can be a better alternative to
using the ethercard for those that have a Win box.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tomas Moberg mailto:Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE
>Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:14 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: HPLX-L MochaPPP and WWW/LX?
>
>
>To answer my own question -It works very well.
>I can run www/lx and its components via my computers com1 instead of
>having to connect my hp200lx with a network card.
>
>Tomas   Moberg wrote:
>> I have read here about people succesfully logging in to their Win95
>> machines with the help of mochaPPP from palmgear.com and LXTCP
>>
>> But have anyone tried this with WWW/LX?
>> How did it go and how did You do it?
>
>      /tomas moberg
>                       Uppsala
>
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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:01:47 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
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From:         Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
Subject:      Nice batch file - run only once a day
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

ECHO OFF
Hi all,

Maybe somebody interested im my "run only once a day utilty,
with exception for Friday" tool ?

If Yes, please take care for the sentence:
 SET HomeDir=C:\UTIL\
and change the directory name to your choice as a place
holder / flag-file.

Store below info ex. to ONCEADAY.BAT as I do and have fun..

Harry Wellner

==========================================================

@Echo Off
        IF %1.==START. GOTO :Start
        %COMSPEC% /E:1024 /C %0 START %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
        GOTO :End

:Start
        CLS
        ECHO:
        ECHO:
        ECHO   Once a day procedure is running ...
        ECHO:
        SHIFT
        SET PARAM1=%1
        REM
        REM *- Modify "C:\UTIL\" to your choice
        REM
        SET HomeDir=C:\UTIL\

        ECHO. | DATE >     %HomeDir%datetmp$.bat
        ECHO SET DayOfWeek=%%3>%HomeDir%current.bat
        ECHO SET Today=%%4>>%HomeDir%current.bat
        CALL %HomeDir%datetmp$
        DEL  %HomeDir%datetmp$.bat
        DEL  %HomeDir%current.bat
        SET count=
        REM Loop1 changes Today to -YYYYMMDD
:Loop1
        SET old=%Today%
        FOR %%v IN (/%Today%) DO SET Today=%%v
        FOR %%v IN (/%old%) DO IF '%%v'=='-' GOTO skip
        FOR %%v IN (/%old%) DO IF '%%v%Today%'=='%old%' SET Today=%Today%%%v
:Skip
        SET count=%count%x
        IF NOT '%count%'=='xxxxxx' GOTO Loop1
        SET count=
        SET old=
        IF EXIST %HomeDir%%Today%.$@! GOTO AlReady
        IF EXIST %HomeDir%*.$@!       GOTO Exists
           %Else create dummy%
           REM > %HomeDir%$$$$$$$$.$@!

:Exists
        RENAME %HomeDir%*.$@! %Today%.$@!

        CLS
        ECHO:
        ECHO    Once-a-day activity happens here.
        ECHO:
        REM
        REM =- Check disk as an example
        REM      could be more ofcourse
        REM
        REM ~~~~~~~ Chkdsk ~~~~~~~
        Chkdsk f:
        Pause
        Chkdsk c:
        Pause
        REM
        REM

        IF NOT '%DayOfWeek%'=='Fri' GOTO End

           %Else run daily dependent activities%
           CLS
           ECHO:
           ECHO    Friday-only-activity happens here.
           ECHO:
           ECHO:
           ECHO    It's time for the weekly backup
           ECHO:
           PAUSE

           GOTO End

:AlReady
        ECHO    The Once-a-day activity already happened

:End



__________________________________________
    o__       Harry Wellner
   _.>/)_     Gouda - Netherlands / Europe
  (_) \(_)

Palmtop Power!--This email composed on a rugged HP200LX that
fits in your pocket!

Med vennlig hilsen / Regards /
        Mit freundlichen Gruessen /
                 Met vriendelijke groeten

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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:40:18 GMT
Reply-To:     stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch
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From:         Stephan Goeldi <stephan_goeldi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux
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There is Minix on www.palmtop.net. Forget Linux for the LX. It requires an
80386 as minimum. The LX is a 80186.

-goe-

>Anyone know if there is a version of Linux available for the HP200lx?

________________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:57:40 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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From:         Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
Subject:      Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
Comments: cc: A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi Avi,

in fact I also don't get the ExplodeDigest-Feature working even with the
the HPLX-Digest! I recently mailed You this, together with my configuration,
but did'nt get no answer back :-(maybe because my not-so-euphoric posting
concerning the backlight-price-thread longer ago? <g>). I also was in contact
with Stefan Peichl, but he knew no solution. I'm running Post/LX 2.2g with
ExplodeDigest=1 in my config-mail-section. I use no filtering for a separate
dir, all mail-data goes to c:\www\data\ , but it does not work, even as
exclusive application (usually I run it as a work area with 580 k under SW
Carousel). Maybe You or anyone else can help?

Thanks & Regards,
Axel
------------------------------------------------------------------
> Absolutely NO! The issue is not realted to ISPs but to the
> processor of the list digest. There is no standard way to
> create a digest! Everyone has another idea about it. There is
> no practical way to code for all the "dialects" without making
> the program larger than life! I suggest that we need to look
> at digest explosions in a different way, perhaps give the user
> the responsibility to describe the way the digest is formed so
> a program can explode it.

> Avi M. D&A
> http://www.dasoft.com

>> Yves Leurquin wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Following Tony Hutchins' advice I added ExplodeDigest=1 in Posl.cfg
but it
>> has no effect on the HPLX digest. I read somewhere that it may be
linked to
>> the way the ISP processes MIME attachement. Should I change ISP to be
able to
>> ExplodeDigest ?.
>>
>> Tx,
>>
>>  \/
>>  /ves


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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:40:59 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: Linux
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

snip

>
>> (Note: Linux was built to take advantage of Linus's new 386
>oh-so-long-ago, a
>> back port of something that resembles Linux may be possible,
>but 186 compat.
>> was never considered.)
>
>There's the ELKS, Embedded Linux Kernel System or something along
>those lines, designed specifically for <386 processors.
>
>Peter,

I've yet to hear of anyone actually running ELKS on the LX.

Minix is definitely working, tho. Mack Bagette did a bunch of work to get
Minix functional on the LX. It's a great operating system but there are no
applications.... at least none that I've ever seen. There are other
difficulties with minix:

- The full 200lx distribution with manual pages and development is 40MB, not
bad if you have a big flash card...
- You can't access the DOS file system while running Minix (it uses a
virtual file system stored on a DOS file, kinda like stacker or Jam)
- You can't access system manager and/or DOS. It would great to run it in an
SC session (I know that would be hard to do as it is a true OS that 'takes
over' the processor)
- There's currently no ethernet support, but I think it does have an IP
stack and support for dialup/ppp
- No GUI, I know that GUIs are not kewl for us techie types but it's a pain
to keep typing commands on a little keyboard.

It's too bad that Minix has only been able to go as far as it has. Mack made
the first move but no one else with the similar talents has picked up the
project to advance it further.

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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:58:07 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
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From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
Comments: To: Bob Penick <bnj@INAME.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

It is new to me that an ISP intervenes and modifies the
structure of an email. If anything, I think that the sending
server made the decision to make the digest an attachment or
inline. I cannot see how a receiving ISP makes such a decision
for you.

Further, Yves was asking about changing an ISP because of the
structure of a digest. The digest is built by the SENDING
server, usually NOT the ISP that receives the email.

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com

Bob Penick wrote:
> Avi,
> I'm not sure that I can agree with you.  Or either I really don't
> understand.  (More likely!)  I previously had my HPLX list (digest format)
> sent to an email address on palmtop.com and read it via the POP3 mailbox set
> up for me.  If the digest was very long at all (90% of the time), the entire
> list digest would be an attachment to the email.  I switched to a different
> POP3 provider several months ago and the entire digest has always been the
> text of the email.  The software I use and the processor of the HPLX list
> hasn't changed as far as I know.  So, the ISP must have had some effect.
> Please enlighten me,
> Later, bob
>
> *****************************************************************
> Avi Said:
> Absolutely NO! The issue is not realted to ISPs but to the
> processor of the list digest.
>
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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:15:19 -0500
Reply-To:     palmtop@n-link.com
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From:         Tim <palmtop@N-LINK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET
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Hi everyone,

re:

>It is new to me that an ISP intervenes and modifies the
>structure of an email.

I remember learning here that CompuServe does something with the header so I
cannot explode digests from the HPLX list, if the digest came through my CIS
account.  I can't remember what CIS did to the header, but someone else had
the same trouble. No "=1" modification to the Explodedigest (might be
spelled wrong) parameter did us any good.

Anyone on the list using CompuServe and getting the explodedigest function
to work?

I think someone told me they had a script that would work w/ one of the
robo-applications; but I don't know where the message or attachments are
.... so if anyone has "cracked the code" on solving this issue, I'd love
help using this feature and program!

TIA,

--tim

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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:37:26 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Axel Klag wrote: Hi Avi,

> in fact I also don't get the ExplodeDigest-Feature working
> even with the the HPLX-Digest!

Probably it is not constructed in a way that Post/LX
recognizes. As I said - there are many many structures, and
listservers format digests in any which way they please, since
there is no one standard way to do it. The program cannot
identify all possibilities, and therefore it cannot explode
some digests.

> I recently mailed You this, together with my configuration, but
> did'nt get no answer back :-(maybe because my not-so-euphoric
> posting concerning the backlight-price-thread longer ago?
> <g>).

Everyone is entitled to make mistakes! <G>...

You said that even Peichl knew of no solutions. I am not
surprised. I do not see a solution really quickly, or at all.
The problem is that somehow the program needs to know where
one message ends and another starts. There are many ways to do
it, and to cover everything is impossible. To cover some - the
ones you want - means that the next guy will feel neglected,
and you know what happens then.

The trick is to find some method to scan the email and break
it up, making the decisions for the user. That is something we
try to shy away from (makes us feel too much like Microsoft!
:-).

So in my opinion, the only solution will be something that you
will teach. IOW, the user will look at his digest and figure
out how to break it up into messages, and somehow describe it
to a program. Then this program will explode the digest.

Mind you, it is entirely possible that every digest you will
receive will look different and require a different "breakup
instructions".

More than that, what you see in Post/LX on the screen is not
the material to use to understand the structure. You'd need to
look at the raw file that is the message which contains the
digest.

It is not nearly as simple as it looks. I went through some
considerable torture with Andreas when he put together the
code. It is ugly, and obviously not working all the time for
everything.

I actually think it should be removed from Post/LX and the
whole function moved to another, external program, or a
script, or something like that. This is code that takes room
in the program, and is not as effective as we hoped it to be,
and it is time to look at it realistically. If it can be done
with an external program, it is probably better, since then
you can tailor these external programs to various digest
formats.

I do not have a solution now.

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:00:49 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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From:         Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
Subject:      Fluff - Death of the palmtop paper
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>Nathalie ... sometime provocateur on our list.

the "sometime" i assume refers to 6 months ago - now i'm "paid" to keep my
mouth shut (don't ask me who)

i'm still doing it on other, less "friendly" lists though :)))

>Thanks Hal for not asking for a photo

and i thought Ed was the ed

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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:18:45 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<

>Thanks Hal for not asking for a photo

and i thought Ed was the ed>>

Ed is the editor and does the work, but Hal gets the credit<g>.

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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:38:55 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
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From:         Ed Keefe <emkeefe@USWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fluff - Death of the palmtop paper
Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hi, Nathalie
>>
>Thanks Hal for not asking for a photo

and i thought Ed was the ed
<<

Ooops, there goes your anti-provocateur paycheck<g>.

.ed. Ed, PTP

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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:18:46 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              geologist@MINDSPRING.COM
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From:         "William E. Blankenship" <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Registering www/lx 3?
Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Avi,

> Thanks for the kind words.
> ... helped me in the last few days prior to
> release immensely...input...on the
> registration process, the form, the Webpage, and
> documentation.....

The kind words are richly deserved. I don't think anyone can
contest them. All you really did was ask my opinion. Everyone
that knows me will agree that I have strong opinions <g>.
Opinionated? Not me!!<g> Seriously, I remember the first day I
installed version 1 many years ago. I remember thinking that
this just made my palmtop the most important piece of computer
hardware that I owned. Except for artwork, I hardly use my
desktop or laptop except when recharging the batteries in the
palmtop or sending stray messages with Netscape <g>. Oops!

> I still don't think his opinion of the product is biased
> much by this gift, but I feel easier to disclose it.
>
> Avi M. D&A > http://www.dasoft.com

You are right; my opinions are my own. Think about this if you
will. I have enjoyed years of free personalized technical
support at no cost, free upgrades, and utilities. Where can one
get this level of customer service these days? Microsoft? I
don't think so. I can't help but have kind words or fully
endorse this product and D&A Software. Without the support
given by Avi and others at D&A, Hal and his group at Thaddeus
and the learned members of the LIST who provide assistance
whenever called upon to do so, this community would not be what
it is today.

I just like the product and feel strongly about it. I recommend
this software to all of my friends.

I even offered to pay when you offered to give me a free
upgrade. I would pay today if you asked just to show support of
a truly unique 200LX product! I do, however, really appreciate
this <VBG>.

Many Thanks,

William E. Blankenship

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Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:28:59 -0400
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Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Tim wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> re:
>
> >It is new to me that an ISP intervenes and modifies the
> >structure of an email.
>
> I remember learning here that CompuServe does something with the header so I
> cannot explode digests from the HPLX list, if the digest came through my CIS

I think CIS does things to the header of the message itself
which contins the digest. But I do not thing CIS goes into
that email message and messes with each of the messages that
are packed into the digest.

> I think someone told me they had a script that would work w/ one of the
> robo-applications; but I don't know where the message or attachments are
> .... so if anyone has "cracked the code" on solving this issue, I'd love
> help using this feature and program!

That would be terrific! Again, each server that creates a
digest is not bound to comply with any standard, and so the
person who specified how to make the digest has a rather open
range to make his own. If there is no specific way, then a
program may not be able to discern the structure, and thus
cannot tell where message start and end, and that's obviously
essential to exploding digests.

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:47:10 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Tony Hutchins just gave me the solution yesterday and it works for me as
today I am replying form an exploded digest that I just received.

Besides the ExplodeDigest=3D1 properly placed in the POST.CFG you have to
inform the list server to send you the digest as a mime attachement. Just
send an e-mail as follows :

        TO:LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        RE:SET HPLX-L MIME
        SET HPLX-L MIME

I don't know if it is required to copy the SET HPLX-L MIME both in the
subject and body of the message but it worked so it seems to be fine.

> So in my opinion, the only solution will be something that you
> will teach. IOW, the user will look at his digest and figure
> out how to break it up into messages, and somehow describe it
> to a program. Then this program will explode the digest.

> Mind you, it is entirely possible that every digest you will
> receive will look different and require a different "breakup
> instructions".

I would encourage everyone who is interested in "Digest Explosion" to =
have a
look as the programme READMAIL (available on www.palmtop.net). It does a =
very
good job at splitting various digest formats in individual messages and
threading them.

Some formats are pre-defined and it allows users to define additional =
formats
if the built-in ones do not work. It works at least for the HPLX Digest
(Standard RFC 1153 format) and the Libretto Digest (needs some user
definition). It is a beta version since 1994 that the author has not
developped further and is full of bugs but it proves that is can be done =
in
DOS. I don't know of any Windows based digest reader programme.

Regards,

 \/
 /ves

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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 04:00:46 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Ok! Good going, Tony. So it was a setup problem.

I believe somewhere, there is a mention that the explode in
Post/LX works on MIME-encoded digests. Yes,,, click on WWW/LX,
then product news link, then See Detailed List Here, then
scroll to Post 2.2f, when Explode was introduced February 12,
2000.

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com

Yves Leurquin wrote:
> Tony Hutchins just gave me the solution yesterday and it works for me as
> today I am replying form an exploded digest that I just received.
>
> Besides the ExplodeDigest=1 properly placed in the POST.CFG you have to
> inform the list server to send you the digest as a mime attachement. Just
> send an e-mail as follows :
>
>         TO:LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>         RE:SET HPLX-L MIME
>         SET HPLX-L MIME
>
> I don't know if it is required to copy the SET HPLX-L MIME both in the
> subject and body of the message but it worked so it seems to be fine.
>
> > So in my opinion, the only solution will be something that you
> > will teach. IOW, the user will look at his digest and figure
> > out how to break it up into messages, and somehow describe it
> > to a program. Then this program will explode the digest.
>
> > Mind you, it is entirely possible that every digest you will
> > receive will look different and require a different "breakup
> > instructions".
>
> I would encourage everyone who is interested in "Digest Explosion" to have a
> look as the programme READMAIL (available on www.palmtop.net). It does a very
> good job at splitting various digest formats in individual messages and
> threading them.
>
> Some formats are pre-defined and it allows users to define additional formats
> if the built-in ones do not work. It works at least for the HPLX Digest
> (Standard RFC 1153 format) and the Libretto Digest (needs some user
> definition). It is a beta version since 1994 that the author has not
> developped further and is full of bugs but it proves that is can be done in
> DOS. I don't know of any Windows based digest reader programme.
>
> Regards,
>
>  \/
>  /ves
>
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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:11:27 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      ATARI text file conversion
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I have downloaded an ATARI OS text file database with (german)
Christian names from Compuserves file libraries. Is there a way to
convert that into an ASCII text file.

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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:37:39 +0200
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      sending attachment with Post/lx?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

hello,

I tried to send an attachment with post/lx, but when I tried to choose
a file with F2/F6, the screen blanks shortly and nothing to choose
appears.

I tried within systemmanager under maxdos and in dos, files in
config.sys = 100, read FAQ on dasoft.com
what could be the reason?
My post/lx is version 2.2g

thanks,

Werner


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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:26:32 -0500
Reply-To:     palmtop@n-link.com
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From:         Tim <palmtop@N-LINK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET
Comments: cc: mark.r.wallace-jones@ac.com
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MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Forwarding to the list for Mark (below)...

I'll try "forcing" the digest into MIME format and see if CIS leaves it
alone.

Mark, below, remembered what I could not regarding exactly what CIS does w/
it's forwarding scheme (part of their grand conversion).

TIA for the help/thoughts ... I'll tinker soon and report back!!

--tim


-----Original Message-----
From: mark.r.wallace-jones@ac.com mailto:mark.r.wallace-jones@ac.com
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 4:10 AM
To: palmtop@N-LINK.COM
Subject: Robot and ExplodeDigest


Tim,

I have a Robot/LX script which explodes digests - unfortunately I don't
have it with me as my HP screen has died and is currently in need of
repair.  But I should be able to get the script off of the HP and send it
to you.  Compuserve definitely strips MIME headers off of emails.  It has
something to do with the fact that the emails are actually forwarded by
Compuserve from their main mail system to the POP3 mailboxes that you can
choose to use - something in the forwarding strips off the MIME (and I
guess other) headers.

I am reading the digests on the web at the moment so am not able to post
this to the list.  You are welcome to post it there if you wish.

Cheers

Mark

>I remember learning here that CompuServe does something with the header so
I
>cannot explode digests from the HPLX list, if the digest came through my
CIS

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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:07:48 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: Off topic: digital cameras
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hi Peniel,

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:10:15 -0400, Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

> Actually, I'm basically a camera luddite.  What I'd like to see is a
> full manual control digicam, with good old-fashioned dials for aperture
> and shutter speed, and manual focus (with true macro).  What I have is
> the Epson 850, which allows manual aperture and shutter speed (thru the
> LCD display), but no manual focus.  I do find the electronic white balance
> control very handy.

I've got the Casio QV 8000SX. It allows you manual focus, aperture,
shutter speed, white balance, flash intensity etc. and has the
possibility to attach standard filters.

And it has a 32* zoom, 8* optical, 4* digital.

AND it works with Compact Flash cards.

Only the quality of the optical parts isn't the best, I think (okay,
I'm spoilt by the lenses for my Canon EOS SLR camera ;-) )
And the accessability of the manual setting functions in the on-screen
menu are to very convenient, since the camera is by default
automatic-driven.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:53:08 -0400
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              Jim Sanders <jsanders@ERIE.NET>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andreas:
I've found your program PRO to be excellent.  Management of
multiple projects is a difficult task and your program is much
simpler than others.  Obviously there is a lot you could do
with it.  Whether you keep it freeware or shareware, please
keep us updated if revise it to allow more data entry such as
directly to PE or allowing you to change projects without
exiting and restarting the program.
Thanks.
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      Netware Connection with HP-LX
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

good evening,

once more I try to get an idea, how I could connect my HP200 LX to a
Novell 3.12 Network _and_ start the systemmanager after
connection.

The connection itself works fine, I have no problem to read the files
on the network and I can also execute programs.

It is _not_ possible to execute command.com on the HP.
There is the errormessage "cannot execute command" So it is not a
problem of memory, I have 530 kB free after loading the drivers.

any ideas?

txs in advance,
Werner


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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:42:57 -0400
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              CT <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Subject:      Buying WWW/LX.  Setting up Goin' Postal+LXTCP
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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I'm trying to decide if the WWW/LX registration fee is worth it for my
specific situation.  I've tested it, HV, post/lx, and the telnet and ftp
clients.  80 dollars seems fine for all that.

But,
I don't plan to be doing too much web browsing, I mainly want to be able
to telnet and check e-mail from my Palmtop.  I want to compare LXTCP and
Goin' Postal to WWW/LX before I make the purchase, but I can't get
either set up.  Despite reading the documentation I'm still doing
something wrong.  What are the steps I need to take, right from the
start, to get LXTCP or Goin' Postal running?  They don't appear to be as
self contained as WWW/LX, needing drivers to be downloaded and loaded
seperately.  Is that right?  Could someone offer advice, or just which
documentation I need to read?  I think I've missed something.

CT Hildreth

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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:29:22 +0200
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      problem with attachments in Post/lx solved
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

hi,

I have been told how to choose attachments in post/lx - I needed the
file pick.exe to make it work,

all o.k. now,


73!
Werner OE9FWV


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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:31:58 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's been quite a few months since I received the digest in
Outlook Express, but it has a way of "exploding" the digest.
With OL Exp, the digest comes as an attachment.  When you
open the attachment you get a little icon for every message
within the digest; the title of each icon contains the subject
line.  Then you have to click on each icon to see the message.
If it makes any difference, I am using CIS as an ISP with PPP.

I personally prefer to use Post/LX and save the digest as a text
file and read it with vi or quickview or more (not the DOS
more).  If I want to reply to a message (like this one), I just
retype the Subject line in the header.  It's not that hard--I
wish some of you would think about trying that yourselves rather
than sending "Re: Automatic List ...."

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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:03:43 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

> hello,

Hellu..

> I tried to send an attachment with post/lx, but when I tried to choose
> a file with F2/F6, the screen blanks shortly and nothing to choose
> appears.

This is exactly the same question I asked on the list a long time ago
:-)

> I tried within systemmanager under maxdos and in dos, files in
> config.sys = 100, read FAQ on dasoft.com
> what could be the reason?
> My post/lx is version 2.2g

You need the program Pick.exe in your path somewhere. Then it will work
if you have the memory for it.

> thanks,

Your welcome.

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:03:11 +0100
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              Ian Humphrey <IanHumphrey@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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From:         Ian Humphrey <IanHumphrey@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Newton keyboard problem with Super Carousel
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I have a 32MB HP200 with Software Carousel 7.=20


I cannot make the Newton keyboard that I originally purchased from Shier =
systems work.

I have NTKEY2LX.COM & NTKEY.BAT and put them on the C drive. I have =
added c:\ntkey2lx.com to my autoexec.bat after c:\charge\abctsr.com and =
before=20
C:\sc-hdm\autossc.bat on the C drive. When I go into DOS and press =
Ctrl-Alt-comma and I get  the double beep but the keyboard does not =
work.  If I try Ctrl-Alt-Full stop from DOS to try and remove the driver =
the Software Carousel  program version 7 starts so I believe I have a =
conflict.

I am looking for some suggestions and advice on whether I can make this =
keyboard work with Super Carousel.

Ian Humphrey


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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3018.900" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have a 32MB HP200 with Software Carousel 7.=20
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I cannot make&nbsp;the Newton keyboard that I =
originally=20
purchased from Shier systems work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have NTKEY2LX.COM &amp; NTKEY.BAT and put them on =
the C=20
drive. I have added c:\ntkey2lx.com to my autoexec.bat after=20
c:\charge\abctsr.com and before </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>C:\sc-hdm\autossc.bat on the C drive. When I go into =
DOS and=20
press Ctrl-Alt-comma and I get&nbsp; the double beep but the keyboard =
does not=20
work.&nbsp; If I try Ctrl-Alt-Full stop from DOS to try and remove the =
driver=20
the Software Carousel&nbsp; program version 7 starts so I believe I have =
a=20
conflict.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I am looking for some suggestions and advice on whether I can make =
this=20
keyboard work with Super Carousel.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Ian Humphrey</DIV>
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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:29:54 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Buying WWW/LX.  Setting up Goin' Postal+LXTCP
Comments: To: CT <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi CT: I am obviously too close to the product (WWW/LX Version
3) to help you in the determination. But I can add some
comments that you may appreciate. I will only speak for WWW/LX
Version 3...

> I don't plan to be doing too much web browsing, I mainly want to be able
> to telnet and check e-mail from my Palmtop.  I want to compare LXTCP and

IMHO, HV is a terrific program, and an excellent example of
how to shove a huge amount of function into the smallest
possible program size. BUT: It is not a good tool to use for
browsing the World WILD (!) Web anymore. There is so much
hapening and moving and changing that there is no chance to
put it into a small program space that is available.

So using browsing as a category is at the very best a so-so.
Straight text borwosing is fine, but anything more that that
is going to disappoint you.

WWW/LX Version 3 shines in email, telnet etc.

Aside from GP and LXTCP there is also NetTamer which you could
try.

> Goin' Postal to WWW/LX before I make the purchase, but I can't get
> either set up.  Despite reading the documentation I'm still doing
> something wrong.  What are the steps I need to take, right from the
> start, to get LXTCP or Goin' Postal running?  They don't appear to be as

I cannot help with these two, unfortunately.

Good luck in your process.

  Avi M. D&A
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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:34:02 PDT
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Tony Guzewicz <tddgny@NETSCAPE.NET>
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From:         Tony Guzewicz <tddgny@NETSCAPE.NET>
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Comments: To: Jim Sanders <jsanders@ERIE.NET>
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Where can one get PRO.EXE
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Quote from CNBC:


Hewlett-Packard ran into controversy when it reported after the
closing bell last night that its earnings grew from 66 cents a=20
share a year ago to 99 cents in the recent quarter. That beat the
analysts' expectations by a whopping 14 cents and sent the stock
soaring to $120 in after-hours trading. However, it fell back
into the $110 range this morning when some analysts suggested
that the company's earnings were skewed upward by income from
investments and lower taxes. And we always thought Hewlett-Packard
was a scientific calculator



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hewlett-Packard ran into controversy when it =
reported=20
after the<BR>closing bell last night that its earnings grew from 66 =
cents a=20
<BR>share a year ago to 99 cents in the recent quarter. That beat=20
the<BR>analysts' expectations by a whopping 14 cents and sent the=20
stock<BR>soaring to $120 in after-hours trading. However, it fell =
back<BR>into=20
the $110 range this morning when some analysts suggested<BR>that the =
company's=20
earnings were skewed upward by income from<BR>investments and lower =
taxes. And=20
we always thought Hewlett-Packard<BR>was a scientific =
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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:00:32 -0500
Reply-To:     palmtop@n-link.com
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From:         Tim <palmtop@N-LINK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Newton keyboard problem with Super Carousel
Comments: To: Ian Humphrey <IanHumphrey@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hi Ian,

re:
>I have NTKEY2LX.COM & NTKEY.BAT and put them on the C drive. I have added
>c:\ntkey2lx.com to my autoexec.bat after c:\charge\abctsr.com and before
...

I'm using the KB w/ SSC 7, and no troubles. I'm "double-speeded" and "memory
enhanced" too; so I'm running many of the same drivers you are.

All I've had to do to make it work is add:

    c:\kb\ntkey2lx -1 -a

to my autoexec bat ("KB" is obv. the subdirectory I use to hold these
drivers).

The "-1" tells the driver I've a doublespeed system "-1" is for a 32.00 MHz
crystal and "-2" is for a 36 MHz crystal .... I don't remember which one I
have (I have to remember to ask the folks at Thaddeus, next time I have them
on the phone), but started w/ -1 and it works fine.

The "-a" reverses the "up" and "right" arrow keys. It feels more natural to
have my directions grouped that way  <-- |  | v | -->  ... if that didn't
translate well, the "-a" makes the keys Left, Up, Down, Right ... So, when
I'm in a hurry the left- and right- most keys do just that to the cursor!
There're many little "tweaks" like the "-a" in the readme ... if you didn't
get it, holler ("give a shout" <grin>) and I can email it to you!

I think the "-1" or "-2" may solve your prob.

If that doesn't, you'll have to do the standard "rem" in front of your TSRs,
etc., one at a time, until you find the culprit!

Happy Hunting!! HTH,

--tim

PS. "Ctrl-Alt-Full stop" ("...period" for those of us on the sprawling side
of the pond) does bring the Software Carousel menu up (I'd forgotten that;
so thank you).... If you want to remove the KB TSR, just enter "ntkey2lx -r"
at the DOS prompt.

PPS. AND, it sounds like you are running more TSRs than I am ... it COULD be
a memory thing!!

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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:06:19 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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> The "-1" tells the driver I've a doublespeed system "-1" is=20
> for a 32.00 MHz
> crystal and "-2" is for a 36 MHz crystal .... I don't=20
> remember which one I
> have (I have to remember to ask the folks at Thaddeus, next=20
> time I have them
> on the phone), but started w/ -1 and it works fine.

Nobody with my speed upgrade needs to use -1 or -2 as you have the real
crystal value required by the palmtop specs. You can take that -1 out of
your ntkey2lx command line and it should work just fine.

Cheers,
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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 01:13:52 +0000
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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I just downloaded WWW3, POST3, and ROBONEWS to get started on WWW/LX v3.
(I'm currently running WWW/LX v2.)  I unzipped the files and printed the
TXT and DOC files to get started.  I'm confused by reading the Robo*
files as it talks about registering; do I need to register it separately
in addition to WWW & Post?

Also, IBM.Net was sold to AT&T a year ago but WWWSETUP still offer setup
for IBM; shouldn't that be AT&T by now??  On October 1st, 2000 the
IBM.Net domain is supposed to away.  (Why did I wait til now to start
learning about what to do to move from my IBM.Net account?  :-))

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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:26:03 -0500
Reply-To:     palmtop@n-link.com
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From:         Tim <palmtop@N-LINK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Newton keyboard problem with Super Carousel
Comments: To: Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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re:
>Nobody with my speed upgrade needs to use -1 or -2 as you have the real
>crystal value required by the palmtop specs. You can take that -1 out of
>your ntkey2lx command line and it should work just fine.

Darn it, I thought I was on a roll!!

BTW, is there a way to tell which speed I am running?

Thanks for the "straightening" ....

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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:43:41 -0400
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              j_t_williams@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         "James T. Williams" <j_t_williams@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Buying WWW/LX.  Setting up Goin' Postal+LXTCP
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I've been using Goin' Postal with good success on a minimal 1 Meg. 100LX.
It's been a while since I set it up, but I'm quite sure it came with all
necessary drivers--nothing additional needed to be downloaded.  I doubt that
I can improve on the documentation that came with it, but if you have a
specific question I'll give it a shot.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "CT" <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 3:42 PM
Subject: Buying WWW/LX. Setting up Goin' Postal+LXTCP


>
> I'm trying to decide if the WWW/LX registration fee is worth it for my
> specific situation.  I've tested it, HV, post/lx, and the telnet and ftp
> clients.  80 dollars seems fine for all that.
>
> But,
> I don't plan to be doing too much web browsing, I mainly want to be able
> to telnet and check e-mail from my Palmtop.  I want to compare LXTCP and
> Goin' Postal to WWW/LX before I make the purchase, but I can't get
> either set up.  Despite reading the documentation I'm still doing
> something wrong.  What are the steps I need to take, right from the
> start, to get LXTCP or Goin' Postal running?  They don't appear to be as
> self contained as WWW/LX, needing drivers to be downloaded and loaded
> seperately.  Is that right?  Could someone offer advice, or just which
> documentation I need to read?  I think I've missed something.
>
> CT Hildreth
>
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I received my double speed 8MB 200LX today.  I am very happy. It looks like
new.

Jim

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              Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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An interesting page about backlighting a calculator and other tidbits:

http://www.genetech.net/~dknaack/tihardware.html

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Date:         Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:15:42 -0500
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              esseni@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Yup, I get the digest version of the list via CIS and the line
ExplodeDigest=3D1 in the Mail section of post.cfg works fine..
Suresh Nirody

> Hi everyone,
> I remember learning here that CompuServe does something with the header =
so I
> cannot explode digests from the HPLX list, if the digest came through =
my CIS
> account.  I can't remember what CIS did to the header, but someone else =
had
> the same trouble. No "=3D1" modification to the Explodedigest (might be
> spelled wrong) parameter did us any good.
>
> Anyone on the list using CompuServe and getting the explodedigest =
function
> to work?
>
> --tim
>

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:52:35 -0400
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www.dasoft.com

Tony Guzewicz wrote:
> Where can one get PRO.EXE
> TIA
> Tony Guzewicz
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://homenetscape.com/webmail
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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:52:39 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Registering www/lx 3?
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Russel Brooks wrote:
> files as it talks about registering; do I need to register it separately
> in addition to WWW & Post?

Yes, we now require registration for WWW.EXE, POST.EXE, and
RoboNews/LX. Each is a separate registration. The upgrade fee
of $39 gets you all three.

Later, we will sell each component separately, and I can
assure you $39 is a good deal <g>... I know what I am thinking
in terms of price per component...)

> Also, IBM.Net was sold to AT&T a year ago but WWWSETUP still offer setup
> for IBM; shouldn't that be AT&T by now??

You can actually still get ATT Global accounts (vs. ATT
Worldnet accounts).

> On October 1st, 2000 the
> IBM.Net domain is supposed to away.  (Why did I wait til now to start
> learning about what to do to move from my IBM.Net account?  :-))

Yes, we know. Why you took so long I don't know <G>...

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 01:41:23 -0400
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              Yussuf Abdille <yussuf@MAIL.COM>
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i donow what are youtalkin abaut?

------Original Message------
From: Ian Humphrey <IanHumphrey@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Sent: August 17, 2000 11:03:11 PM GMT
Subject: Newton keyboard problem with Super Carousel


I have a 32MB HP200 with Software Carousel 7.


I cannot make the Newton keyboard that I originally purchased from Shier
systems work.

I have NTKEY2LX.COM & NTKEY.BAT and put them on the C drive. I have added
c:\ntkey2lx.com to my autoexec.bat after c:\charge\abctsr.com and before
C:\sc-hdm\autossc.bat on the C drive. When I go into DOS and press
Ctrl-Alt-comma and I get  the double beep but the keyboard does not work.
If I try Ctrl-Alt-Full stop from DOS to try and remove the driver the
Software Carousel  program version 7 starts so I believe I have a conflict.

I am looking for some suggestions and advice on whether I can make this
keyboard work with Super Carousel.

Ian Humphrey


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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:22:09 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Re: Buying WWW/LX.  Setting up Goin' Postal+LXTCP
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I use GP for e-mail and MT for Telnet (which latter I guess came from
Super).   I use the Alt-S key during the GP connect sequence and it drops
out to the DOS shell, with the PPP still online.  Then I just type MT
<hostname> and it works fine.  I've used it to log in and reboot remote VAX
systems from the LX, over a cellphone.

I don't recall there being anything fancy to setting up GP.  As I use
Compuserve I use the script file that ships with GP for CSI, which handles
the 7-bit-even parity of the CSI login.  I did have problems getting a
connection through a different (?shiva) dial-up, where the remote end
refused to negotiate the MTU size below 1500, and also would only work if
all control characters were quoted...these are all parameters on the EPPPD
command line.  In general you need to tell the list your specific problem,
and folk will try to help.

There's a debug version of EPPPD that is handy to see the exchange before
the driver goes online, though I did have to use a video camera to catch the
stuff scrolling off the screen!

I've not tried WWW/LX or TXTCP - I went for GP because I only had a 1Mb LX.

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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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I am having trouble with the AC adaptor socket in the side of my palmtop.
 When I plug in the AC adaptor, the palmtop doesn't notice it and continue=
s
to run off the batteries.  The adaptor works fine in two other palmtops. =
 If
I plug in the adaptor then torq the adaptor plug away from the serial =
port,
the palmtop will "notice" the AC power.  As soon as I let go of the
plug, however, it goes back to battery power.

I have a 32 Meg DS palmtop.  I have the torx bit needed to take the
palmtop apart, but I don't have a lot of experience doing surgery on
palmtops.  Does this sound like something I should try to fix myself, or
should it go in to Thaddeus?

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:23:06 -0500
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              Mack Baggette <mack@TIMES2TECH.COM>
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You should sent it to thaddeus for them to fix if the qtip and alcohol
trick doesn't work for cleaning the plug recepticle.

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:54:31 -0700
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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When wiring dumb terminals in daisy-chain fashion do the cables need to be
of a null-modem variety or just straight thru cables? Any and all help is
solicited. Thanks!

Jeff

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Hi Steve,

I had the same problem (AC not recognized, but adapter worked OK on other LX) on
my LX after a 2x/6mb upgrade several years ago and it was attributed to some
shielding or something of that sort not being tucked in properly when the case
was reassembled.  I didn't do the fix myself, so I can't comment on how much of
a problem it is to fix ... if I had it on warranty, I'd just send it in to
whoever did the work.

- Longden





Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET> on 08/18/2000 05:17:37 AM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  AC adaptor socket problem



I am having trouble with the AC adaptor socket in the side of my palmtop.
 When I plug in the AC adaptor, the palmtop doesn't notice it and continues
to run off the batteries.  The adaptor works fine in two other palmtops.  If
I plug in the adaptor then torq the adaptor plug away from the serial port,
the palmtop will "notice" the AC power.  As soon as I let go of the
plug, however, it goes back to battery power.

I have a 32 Meg DS palmtop.  I have the torx bit needed to take the
palmtop apart, but I don't have a lot of experience doing surgery on
palmtops.  Does this sound like something I should try to fix myself, or
should it go in to Thaddeus?

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:51:52 +0200
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              Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
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Werner,

> It is _not_ possible to execute command.com on the HP.
> There is the errormessage "cannot execute command" So it is not a
> problem of memory, I have 530 kB free after loading the drivers.

Just a guess, have you tried running the original DOS 5 COMMAND.COM (i.e.
coming from diskettes) rather than the HP200LX built in one which is =
executed
from ROM and might be slightly non-standard.

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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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There was a recent question about setting up LXTCP.  I submitted to
the list  a how-to post, and by the time I found it was rejected (too
long) I had deleted the original request.

Anyway, I've put the file up on the web and anyone who is interested
can look at it.  The URL is:

  http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/LXTCP.html

Ted

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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Has anyone scanned a picture of the Dutch railway logo yet? I may want one
just for the kewl logo.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Henry mailto:jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:03 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: HPLX-L Dutch Railway HP200LX from Thaddeus


I received my double speed 8MB 200LX today.  I am very happy. It looks like
new.

Jim


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size=2>Has anyone scanned a picture of the Dutch railway logo yet? I may want
one just for the kewl logo.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> James Henry
  mailto:jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 17, 2000
  10:03 PM<BR><B>To:</B> HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
  HPLX-L Dutch Railway HP200LX from Thaddeus<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=272290002-18082000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
  received my double speed 8MB 200LX today.&nbsp; I am very happy. It looks like
  new.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=272290002-18082000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=272290002-18082000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
  size=2>Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:29:55 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      WTB: 200LX base cover
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Two months ago I dropped my palmtop at Fft airport on a marble floor
and the dome for the screw close to the backup battery broke.

This dome is critical as it helps tighten the connection between
the motherboard and the flat film leads to the screen. I fixed the
broken dom with plastic melt glue which came loose again this weekend.

I'm now looking for a spare bottom housing for a 200LX since I don't
think that I will ever be able to make a permanent fix.

Anybody willing to part or sell such a spare bottom housing please
contact me by private e-mail.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:44:33 -0500
Reply-To:     palmtop@n-link.com
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Tim <palmtop@N-LINK.COM>
Subject:      FLUFF: OT: Email "relays" available??
In-Reply-To:  <8825693F.00523385.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi All,

w/ luck the FLUFF/OT keeps the filterers happy....

My best friend's daughter is a high school soccer player. They've set up a
website w/ a company that lists the girls' "statistics" so they can be
recruited by college/pro scouts, etc.

The site's goals (no pun intended) are noble; but they have the girls' email
addresses and, IMO, too much information posted there *way* too easy to do
reverse look ups, get parents' addresses, etc. I want to help protect the
girls from the less-than-wholesome folks out there.

Is there a service, free or otherwise that will allow us to set up a "mail
drop" for the girls?

I know they could all get (in some cases a second) Hotmail (account), but I
hoped for something that would pull "questionable" email into a "queue,"
where an adult would have the chance to take a look at the email and click a
"go ahead" or "dump" button...... Then it would forward to the player all
their addresses could be "<name-at-Havoc>@localisp.com". Havoc's the team
name. Three email buttons would be better, "Go Ahead," "Dump" and "Forward
to Local Authorities w/ comment" would be better!

I wouldn't want an Auto-bot doing the work (with instant forward to the FBI
or a return "nasty gram") because filtering parameters would be hard to work
out.

What if a real college scout mistyped something like, "Looking forward to
seeing you at tryouts, butt your age group runs on Saturday *morning* not
afternoon" and the program/autobot, reacted to "butt" in a bad way!!!

I'd love to see something a volunteer parent or coach could administer via
web-browser, from home, even if the program and mail "lived" on either a
commercial server or at the high school.

Any such thing exist?

Won't take up anymore of the list's bandwidth, but had to type fast, to an
intellectual community  <grin>, that could help me work on an issue that
grabbed me!!

TIA for any help!!!!!

--tim

PS. I know we could do something at Bigfoot, w/ all the mail going to a
parent; but the volume could be too great and delay innocent/important
email.

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:57:55 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Bob Penick <bnj@INAME.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Bob Penick <bnj@INAME.COM>
Subject:      Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Avi and others,

I usually read the HPLX digest with MS Outlook express at my desk.

When I had the list sent to bnj@palmtop.com  I received it with the "From"
being listed as "HPLX Mailing List".   The digest itself was usually an
attachment file named "note.txt.  If the digest that day was very short, all
of it would be in the body of the email.

Since July 21 I've  had the digest sent to a standard POP3 account.  All of
the HPLX digests I've gotten since then are listed as being from "Automatic
digest processor", and the digest itself has always been straight text in
the body of the email.

Remember that Palmtop.com is primarily a Lotus ccMail server and for a
onetime $60 fee they would set up a POP3 mail account for you.  I did this
years ago.  It might be possible that the ccMail to POP3 gateway transforms
the digest in some way.  I don't know.  I was just trying to say that there
must be some situations where the ISP "modifies" an email.  Surely I'm not
the only one on this list that uses (used) the Palmtop.com service and also
received the list as a digest?

Later, bob

> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:58:07 -0400
> From:    A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
> Subject: Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
>
> It is new to me that an ISP intervenes and modifies the
> structure of an email. If anything, I think that the sending
> server made the decision to make the digest an attachment or
> inline. I cannot see how a receiving ISP makes such a decision
> for you.
>
> Further, Yves was asking about changing an ISP because of the
> structure of a digest. The digest is built by the SENDING
> server, usually NOT the ISP that receives the email.

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:21:40 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Dutch Railway HP200LX from Thaddeus
Comments: To: Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I am not sure this is the logo that is on the Palmtops because
I have never seen such a palmtop, but NS' logo can be found
here:

http://www.ns.nl (in Dutch)

Or http://www.ns.nl/gfx/bnshm_homepage.gif

NS (The Dutch Railway) stands for Nederlandse Spoorwegen

   ____
  /    \   \
 <---\  \--->
  \   \____/

Ed Padin wrote:
> Has anyone scanned a picture of the Dutch railway logo yet? I may want one
> just for the kewl logo.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Henry mailto:jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:03 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: HPLX-L Dutch Railway HP200LX from Thaddeus
>
> I received my double speed 8MB 200LX today.  I am very happy. It looks like
> new.
>
> Jim
>

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:21:32 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, sponsor@FTEL.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: sending attachment with Post/lx?
Comments: To: furlan@gmx.net
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Dear Werner, and Folks:

You posted that this was resolved by Peichl and Rundel. Thank
you both! Tony sent you also an email about this, he is one of
our Tech Support people.

Let me give you and everyone else the full answer, since I can
<G>...

1. Pick must be on the PATH (see AUTOEXEC.BAT). Makes no
difference where, as long is it possible to find it. If you
want to put it in the same subdirectory where Post/LX is,
that's fine, and the path will never come to play, since
PIC.EXE will be found.

2. I am always making people angry with telling to to read the
documentation. The reason is that it took about 2000 hours to
put it together, and it is a monumental job. Frankly, I do not
remember everything on it myself. So we tried to just put in
there EVERYTHING. And I can tell you that not everything found
its way there! <G>...

Anyway, in the HELP topics of Post/LX I find this:

----------

From: Help - Advanced
Subject: Selecting Attachment Files

When adding an attachment and when choosing a signature file,
you can either type the name of the file you want to send as
an attachment, or you can select it using an external "file
picker" utility by pressing F6. By default, POST/LX is set up
to use the freeware utility PICK.EXE by Harry Konstas
(downloadable from www.dasoft.com). It must be either in the
current directory or somewhere on the DOS path.

If you want to use any other file selection utility, add the
line

 Pick=MY_PICKER.EXE

to the SYSTEM section of POST.CFG. Of course,
"MY_PICKER.EXE"
is just an example. Modify it so that it matches the name of
the selector utility. POST/LX expects to find the name of the
selected file in the file C:\FILE.LST.

----------

This says it all.

Hope this is useful to others as well.

Oh, and please, Folks, PRINT THE HELP TOPICS and READ them, We
have this wonderful little program called DOCIFY.EXE
(docuneted in Version 3 in DOCIFY.TXT and in Version 2 in file
DOCIFY.DOC) which will create two excellent formats of the
Help Topics... Enjoy!

thanks,

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com


Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
> hello,
>
> I tried to send an attachment with post/lx, but when I tried to choose
> a file with F2/F6, the screen blanks shortly and nothing to choose
> appears.
>
> I tried within systemmanager under maxdos and in dos, files in
> config.sys = 100, read FAQ on dasoft.com
> what could be the reason?
> My post/lx is version 2.2g
>
> thanks,
>
> Werner


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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:10:44 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              CT <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         CT <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXTCP setup
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Ted, I found your LXTCP setup instructions unbelievably helpful.  That is
exactly what I was looking for.  After configuring DOSPPP, LXTCP, and PNR
I executed epppd.  The ISP was dialed, a long, steady, connection noise
appeared and then I got this error at the command line...

warning read() on stdin returned 0
Failed
PPP link is down, driver not installed.

Can anyone offer advice as to where to go from here?

CT

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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:03:42 -0400
Reply-To:     jhenry@comcastwork.com
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dutch Railway HP200LX from Thaddeus
Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET
In-Reply-To:  <200008182321.TAA02915@spdmraab.compuserve.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

That is the one that is on the Palmtop.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn
> Behalf Of A
> Meshar
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 7:22 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Dutch Railway HP200LX from Thaddeus
>
>
> I am not sure this is the logo that is on the Palmtops because
> I have never seen such a palmtop, but NS' logo can be found
> here:
>
> http://www.ns.nl (in Dutch)
>
> Or http://www.ns.nl/gfx/bnshm_homepage.gif
>
> NS (The Dutch Railway) stands for Nederlandse Spoorwegen
>
>    ____
>   /    \   \
>  <---\  \--->
>   \   \____/
>
> Ed Padin wrote:
> > Has anyone scanned a picture of the Dutch railway logo yet?
> I may want one
> > just for the kewl logo.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Henry mailto:jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:03 PM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: Re: HPLX-L Dutch Railway HP200LX from Thaddeus
> >
> > I received my double speed 8MB 200LX today.  I am very
> happy. It looks like
> > new.
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
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Date:         Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:23:06 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Mark Willis <mwillis@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Organization: Teasers -R- Us, anonymous.
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: OT: Email "relays" available??
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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What I believe you want is a private mailing list.

You could go to egroups.com, create a Moderated, Unlisted, Membership
Moderated/Restricted mailing list, and you're set.  You (or some group
of parents with the password to a given e-mail address) would have to
approve EACH posting if the list's Moderated, and approve each potential
member.  You might think of a "Invitation Only" list and not moderate
it, then do all invitations based on in-person meetings and you're
likely to know all people joining the list!  <G>

Just have any interested parent join the list as well (Twerps aren't
likely to be invited, nor to post to a list known to contain armed
parents!  <G>)

All those files could be moved to a "Members Files area" (some 10Mb
IIRC) on eGroups, this should do you nicely!

  Mark

Tim wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> w/ luck the FLUFF/OT keeps the filterers happy....
>
> My best friend's daughter is a high school soccer player. They've set up a
> website w/ a company that lists the girls' "statistics" so they can be
> recruited by college/pro scouts, etc.
>
> The site's goals (no pun intended) are noble; but they have the girls' email
> addresses and, IMO, too much information posted there *way* too easy to do
> reverse look ups, get parents' addresses, etc. I want to help protect the
> girls from the less-than-wholesome folks out there.
>
> Is there a service, free or otherwise that will allow us to set up a "mail
> drop" for the girls?
>
> I know they could all get (in some cases a second) Hotmail (account), but I
> hoped for something that would pull "questionable" email into a "queue,"
> where an adult would have the chance to take a look at the email and click a
> "go ahead" or "dump" button...... Then it would forward to the player all
> their addresses could be "<name-at-Havoc>@localisp.com". Havoc's the team
> name. Three email buttons would be better, "Go Ahead," "Dump" and "Forward
> to Local Authorities w/ comment" would be better!
>
> I wouldn't want an Auto-bot doing the work (with instant forward to the FBI
> or a return "nasty gram") because filtering parameters would be hard to work
> out.
>
> What if a real college scout mistyped something like, "Looking forward to
> seeing you at tryouts, butt your age group runs on Saturday *morning* not
> afternoon" and the program/autobot, reacted to "butt" in a bad way!!!
>
> I'd love to see something a volunteer parent or coach could administer via
> web-browser, from home, even if the program and mail "lived" on either a
> commercial server or at the high school.
>
> Any such thing exist?
>
> Won't take up anymore of the list's bandwidth, but had to type fast, to an
> intellectual community  <grin>, that could help me work on an issue that
> grabbed me!!
>
> TIA for any help!!!!!
>
> --tim
>
> PS. I know we could do something at Bigfoot, w/ all the mail going to a
> parent; but the volume could be too great and delay innocent/important
> email.

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 06:41:56 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: AC adaptor socket problem
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Steve,

> I am having trouble with the AC adaptor socket in the side of my palmtop.
>  When I plug in the AC adaptor, the palmtop doesn't notice it and continues
> to run off the batteries.  The adaptor works fine in two other palmtops.  If
> I plug in the adaptor then torq the adaptor plug away from the serial port,
> the palmtop will "notice" the AC power.  As soon as I let go of the
> plug, however, it goes back to battery power.
>
> I have a 32 Meg DS palmtop.  I have the torx bit needed to take the
> palmtop apart, but I don't have a lot of experience doing surgery on
> palmtops.  Does this sound like something I should try to fix myself, or
> should it go in to Thaddeus?

The connector has a center pin and a spring to press the AC adaptor
plug against the center pin of the connector. Most likely the spring
has not enough tension. Try to pull the spring towards the center pin
with some plyer.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 06:41:58 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dutch Railway HP200LX from Thaddeus
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hey Ed,

> Has anyone scanned a picture of the Dutch railway logo yet? I may want one
> just for the kewl logo.

What about doing a web search for an URL of the Dutch railway 8-)

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:31:18 -0500
Reply-To:     theise@netins.net
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
Subject:      Re: LXTCP setup

CT writes:
> Ted, I found your LXTCP setup instructions unbelievably helpful.  That is
> exactly what I was looking for.  After configuring DOSPPP, LXTCP, and PNR
> I executed epppd.  The ISP was dialed, a long, steady, connection noise
> appeared and then I got this error at the command line...
>
> warning read() on stdin returned 0
> Failed
> PPP link is down, driver not installed.
>
> Can anyone offer advice as to where to go from here?

I'm glad the instructions were helpful.  I struggled through the setup
process too, and thought my experience might help others.

Two thoughts on your problem.  I've seen a similar response when the
connection takes longer to negotiate than the timeout period allows.
My default chat string actually includes -t120 as the first parameter.
This sets the timeout to 2 minutes.  I didn't include this because I
generally only need it when dialing long distance with calling card
numbers.

My other thought is that every now and then I'll get a failure to load
the PPP driver for some unknown reason.  Usually if I reboot, it works
fine.

If these things don't help, perhaps you will need a more detailed
chat script.  If this is the case, you could use DataComm to dial
up and see exactly what strings your ISP is sending.

Ted

--
Theodore W. Heise   <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C  A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:59:14 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Thomas Rundel <rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF OT Help Needed
Comments: To: Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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Jeff,

regular terminals are connected to individual serial ports of the
host computer, and you do need a null modem cable with full handshake
for that. I don't know how you could daisy chain them, though. Just
drop me an email if you have further questions.

Tom
Rundel Datentechnik, Germany
www.rundel.net/palmtop

On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:54:31 -0700, Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> wrote:

 > When wiring dumb terminals in daisy-chain fashion do the cables need to be
 > of a null-modem variety or just straight thru cables? Any and all help is
 > solicited. Thanks!
 >
 > Jeff
 >
 >              --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
 >              --   Jefferson County Sheriff's Department   --
 >              --    B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com    --
 >              --         http://www.NotAChance.com         --
 >              --  NotSoQuick.com & NotSoQuick.net Domain   --
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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:59:23 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Thomas Rundel <rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM>
Subject:      Re: AC adaptor socket problem
Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Steve,

I'd assume that the metal inside the AC adapter jack which makes contact
with the outside of the plug is somehow misaligned. I don't think that
you can fix that yourself as probably the jack needs to be replaced.

Tom
Rundel Datentechnik, Germany
www.rundel.net/palmtop

On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:17:37 -0400, Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET> wrote:

 > I am having trouble with the AC adaptor socket in the side of my palmtop.
 >  When I plug in the AC adaptor, the palmtop doesn't notice it and continues
 > to run off the batteries.  The adaptor works fine in two other palmtops.  If
 > I plug in the adaptor then torq the adaptor plug away from the serial port,
 > the palmtop will "notice" the AC power.  As soon as I let go of the
 > plug, however, it goes back to battery power.
 >
 > I have a 32 Meg DS palmtop.  I have the torx bit needed to take the
 > palmtop apart, but I don't have a lot of experience doing surgery on
 > palmtops.  Does this sound like something I should try to fix myself, or
 > should it go in to Thaddeus?
 >
 > Steve Carder
 >

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 08:50:07 +0200
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Comments: To: Bob Penick <bnj@INAME.COM>
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hello,

I changed the Digest settings to "Mime" as proposed in a former
mail.
Since then I have a nice listing of all messages in my Pegasus Mail
program. I can also answer to the author of each mail by clicking the
reply button.
As concerns the changings in the mail header of mails by providers
I am sure that this happens sometimes from my own experience.
In my hospital they run a MS Exchange server and we found out that
if there appears a 8Bit character somewhere in the mail digest, the
server changes the message type description in the mail header,
and the exchange server does not recognize the mime digest type.
So it happened for example, that digests without 8Bit characters
were o.k. displayed, as soon as there was found only one 8 Bit
character in the whole digest, all formating was gone and I could
see only plain/text instead of the sender and subject of the mail.
If someone is interested in seeing such an example, I have saved
an example of  the raw messages. (both, changed through the
exchange server, and o.k. through my private ISP)

regards,
Werner



on 18 Aug 2000, at  16:57, Bob Penick wrote about
"Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX":

> Avi and others,
>
> I usually read the HPLX digest with MS Outlook express at my desk.
>
> When I had the list sent to bnj@palmtop.com  I received it with the
> "From" being listed as "HPLX Mailing List".   The digest itself was
> usually an attachment file named "note.txt.  If the digest that day was
> very short, all of it would be in the body of the email.
>
> Since July 21 I've  had the digest sent to a standard POP3 account.  All
> of the HPLX digests I've gotten since then are listed as being from
> "Automatic digest processor", and the digest itself has always been
> straight text in the body of the email.
>
> Remember that Palmtop.com is primarily a Lotus ccMail server and for a
> onetime $60 fee they would set up a POP3 mail account for you.  I did
> this years ago.  It might be possible that the ccMail to POP3 gateway
> transforms the digest in some way.  I don't know.  I was just trying to
> say that there must be some situations where the ISP "modifies" an
> email.  Surely I'm not the only one on this list that uses (used) the
> Palmtop.com service and also received the list as a digest?
>
> Later, bob
>
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:58:07 -0400
> > From:    A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
> > Subject: Re: Explode Digest in WWW/LX
> >
> > It is new to me that an ISP intervenes and modifies the
> > structure of an email. If anything, I think that the sending
> > server made the decision to make the digest an attachment or
> > inline. I cannot see how a receiving ISP makes such a decision
> > for you.
> >
> > Further, Yves was asking about changing an ISP because of the
> > structure of a digest. The digest is built by the SENDING
> > server, usually NOT the ISP that receives the email.
>



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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 08:36:09 +0200
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hello Yves,

on 18 Aug 2000, at  17:51, Yves Leurquin wrote about
"Re: Netware Connection with HP-LX":

> Werner,
>
> > It is _not_ possible to execute command.com on the HP.
> > There is the errormessage "cannot execute command" So it is not a
> > problem of memory, I have 530 kB free after loading the drivers.
>
> Just a guess, have you tried running the original DOS 5 COMMAND.COM
> (i.e. coming from diskettes) rather than the HP200LX built in one which
> is executed >from ROM and might be slightly non-standard.
>
>  \/
>  /ves
>

I thought about this also,
but it did not help.... I added also set
comspec=d:\dos\command.com to my autoexec.bat

hmmm...

Werner

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 03:27:01 -0400
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> My other thought is that every now and then I'll get a failure to load
> the PPP driver for some unknown reason.  Usually if I reboot, it works
> fine.

I tried three or four times, getting the same error over and over after I sent
my last e-mail.  I just rebooted and that solved everything.  epppd establishes
a connection fine now.  The LXTCP utilities and pnr work.  Thank you.

CT Hildreth

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:41:46 +0200
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Well, after some learning and the support of a number of list members, I =
am
now the proud owner of a Pocket Computer which can browse the internet, =
send
and receive E-Mail, Mailing List Digests and SMS, upload and download the =
GSM
Phone book ... all this via IRDA communication. (HP200LX+Ericsson I888+WWW=
/LX
suite).

Then I think, what about FAXING. I don't use this feature very often but =
this
would be nice if BGFAX 1.7 could use the IRDA link opened by WWW/LX to =
send
faxes in a way similar to HV, Post/LX or Robot/LX. I have no need for fax
reception as I use the free FAX to EMail service of Efax.com which allows =
me
to receive faxes to a fixed number wherever I am and retrieve them during =
a
mail run.

So the question is: which COM port should I tell BGFAX to use to allow it =
to
send a fax via IRDA communication with the GSM ?

 \/
 /ves

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:29:40 +0200
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      problem connecting to Win95 Net
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hello,

I tried to connect my HP to my Win95 Computer, and used Rod
Whitby's driver collection.
But it does not work here:
the first lines in net-up.bat are executed, but when I load
drvload ethpcm.dos

there is the message:

Socket Service Function
Error occured!

My network card is accton EN2216-1 1

can anybody help?

thank you,
Werner


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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:21:57 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF OT Help Needed
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>>regular terminals are connected to individual serial ports of the
>>host computer, and you do need a null modem cable with full handshake
>>for that. I don't know how you could daisy chain them, though. Just
>>drop me an email if you have further questions.


using a couple of diodes you can make a cable to daisy chain serial
terminals if they only use three wires

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 08:47:41 -0700
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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


I also some  PCMCIA protectors which are a thick padded leather pouch
with a strong Velcro seal.

(1) for $4.00
(3) or more only $3.00 a piece plus $2.00 for shipping and packaging

(3) 133MHZ Pentium Processors    $15.00 a piece plus $2.00 for shipping
and packaging.

(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

One (1) Diamond Stealth II G460 8Meg AGP 3D Video card.
It has only been used for (2) months. $20.00 plus $5.00 for shipping
and packaging.

Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks the very next day unless I receive your payment
on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded
envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just great and the
people I have worked with have been just Awesome!   Thanks alot!

Scott

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:26:01 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Netware Connection with HP-LX
Comments: To: Larry Tachna <ltachna@royalzenith.com>
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hello Larry,

on 19 Aug 2000, at  10:21, Larry Tachna wrote about "RE: Netware
Connection with HP-LX":

> >>I thought about this also,
> >>but it did not help.... I added also set
> >>comspec=d:\dos\command.com to my autoexec.bat
> >>
> >>hmmm...
>
> have you tried a plain old command wothout the .com?
>
yes, that was the original setting. COMSPEC=COMMAND      the
other comspec was my try when the default did not work.

what is funny, the error is not wrong Dos version or so, but cannot
execute command.

Werner




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Testing list.hplx newsgroup mirroring.

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For those of you who were asking: the list.hplx newsgroup at news.hplx.net
is now mirroring HPLX-L mailing list messages properly, and the messages
which were not mirrored to the group since 01 Aug 2000 have been processed
and are now in the group (along with a few older posts that had also
missed getting mirrored to the newsgroup).  This particular problem should
not occur again, as the cause of the problem has been found and rectified.
We at hplx.net apologize for the inconvenience that was caused to
everybody.

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:29:27 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
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From:         Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
Subject:      WTB: 200LX base cover
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>Two months ago I dropped my palmtop at Fft airport on a marble floor
>and the dome for the screw close to the backup battery broke.

sorry, i don't have a cover, but a related question...

to prevent the LX from breaking due to dropping, is it possible to fasten a
string/chain to the body somehow with superglue or a screwed hook and
key-ring? where can i drill into the plastic without damaging a vital organ?

your de-cloaked doc (Longden)

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:10:10 -0400
Reply-To:     jhenry@comcastwork.com
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From:         James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
Subject:      Compaq 10 MB flashcard
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I am trying to use the 10 MB flashcard I got from Thaddeus for pre-paying
for my Dutch Railway Palmtop, but I get "Drive not Ready".  I dropped to DOS
and tried "Format a:" and get the same thing. Also if I use Filer,
Menu/Options/format card I get the same error.  How do I use this?  I can't
find anything in my original HP 200LX's manual about it. The only reference
seems to be about CIC100 and card modems.  On my original 200LX I have an
Ace 5mb card which works fine but I forget how I initialized it. On my new
200LX, I copied everything from my first 200LX to it, overwriting original
files, so the Ace card works fine in either 200LX. So what do I need to do
to use the new Compaq 10MB card?

Jim

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:41:48 -0400
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              rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM
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Jim,

try using d:\bin\fdisk100 on the card before formatting it. If that
doesn't work, try formatting it in a Windows notebook or desktop PC
with PCMCIA slot. If that doesn't work either, the card may be
defective...

Tom
Rundel Datentechnik, Germany
www.rundel.net


On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:10:10 -0400, James Henry <jhenry@comcastwork.com> wrote:

 > I am trying to use the 10 MB flashcard I got from Thaddeus for pre-paying
 > for my Dutch Railway Palmtop, but I get "Drive not Ready".  I dropped to DOS
 > and tried "Format a:" and get the same thing. Also if I use Filer,
 > Menu/Options/format card I get the same error.  How do I use this?  I can't
 > find anything in my original HP 200LX's manual about it. The only reference
 > seems to be about CIC100 and card modems.  On my original 200LX I have an
 > Ace 5mb card which works fine but I forget how I initialized it. On my new
 > 200LX, I copied everything from my first 200LX to it, overwriting original
 > files, so the Ace card works fine in either 200LX. So what do I need to do
 > to use the new Compaq 10MB card?
 >
 > Jim

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:07:53 -0400
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:29:27 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> >Two months ago I dropped my palmtop at Fft airport on a marble floor
> >and the dome for the screw close to the backup battery broke.
>
> sorry, i don't have a cover, but a related question...
>
> to prevent the LX from breaking due to dropping, is it possible to fasten a
> string/chain to the body somehow with superglue or a screwed hook and
> key-ring? where can i drill into the plastic without damaging a vital organ?

I do not think drilling into the Hplx is a good idea. I think it will
break because it is "hard" plastic". But I guess it would be nice to
have a "nose ring" type in one of the corners. But you have to drill
throug the edge of the screen and I do not think there are room for
this.

But I guess some of the "Hplx Quincy's" on the list can answer that.
:-)

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:14:03 -0400
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              Ken London <kenlondon@BELD.NET>
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> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:29:27 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR>
wrote:
> > to prevent the LX from breaking due to dropping, is it possible to
fasten a
> > string/chain to the body somehow with superglue or a screwed hook and
> > key-ring? where can i drill into the plastic without damaging a vital
organ?

How about using velcro to fasten something to the hp200lx case...that way
you won't have to drill any holes.

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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> to prevent the LX from breaking due to dropping, is it possible to fasten a
> string/chain to the body somehow with superglue or a screwed hook and
> key-ring? where can i drill into the plastic without damaging a vital organ?

I rigged up something on my HP100 ages ago but did not follow it up on
any of my 200's!

I threaded some high strength fishing line through one of those holes
found in the battery compartment and then out through a notch I filed
into the battery cover.  It was a closed loop and pretty small - then
you could place some lacing/webbing/strap through that loop of fishing
line.  I figured I could always replace the battery cover and the "fixed
line" could be removed without any long lasting damage.

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Date:         Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:15:42 -0400
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From:         James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Compaq 10 MB flashcard
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Thank Thomas. I was able to format it fine in my laptop then copy all my
files to it. I still can't access it in either of my palmtops so I believe
the problem is something inb my config designed to initialize my Ace flash
card is not compatible with this. I justr can't seem to FIND it!

Jim

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> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 6:42 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Compaq 10 MB flashcard
>
>
> Jim,
>
> try using d:\bin\fdisk100 on the card before formatting it. If that
> doesn't work, try formatting it in a Windows notebook or desktop PC
> with PCMCIA slot. If that doesn't work either, the card may be
> defective...
>
> Tom
> Rundel Datentechnik, Germany
> www.rundel.net
>
>
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:10:10 -0400, James Henry
> <jhenry@comcastwork.com> wrote:
>
>  > I am trying to use the 10 MB flashcard I got from Thaddeus
> for pre-paying
>  > for my Dutch Railway Palmtop, but I get "Drive not Ready".
>  I dropped to DOS
>  > and tried "Format a:" and get the same thing. Also if I use Filer,
>  > Menu/Options/format card I get the same error.  How do I
> use this?  I can't
>  > find anything in my original HP 200LX's manual about it.
> The only reference
>  > seems to be about CIC100 and card modems.  On my original
> 200LX I have an
>  > Ace 5mb card which works fine but I forget how I
> initialized it. On my new
>  > 200LX, I copied everything from my first 200LX to it,
> overwriting original
>  > files, so the Ace card works fine in either 200LX. So what
> do I need to do
>  > to use the new Compaq 10MB card?
>  >
>  > Jim
>
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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:46:21 +1000
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              Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
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Hi,

I tried using an older version of www.exe in place of the more recent
one I've been using. It worked ! Its the version of www.exe thats
46.986 bytes, dated 28/3/99.

I haven't yet tried the new WWW/LX version 3 yet, but when I do it'll
be one of the first things I'll be checking.

Paul Johnson.

jorgen@palmtop.net wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have also the same problem and I must use a proxy server since I live
> in Singapore. Earlier versions of WWW/LX was ok. So if anyone has a
> solution for this, please let us know.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
> > Hi Jeremy,
> >
> > Is this something to do with the user agents that the proxy server
> > will send stuff on to? For about the last month I've had a similar
> > problem viewing anything on the net using www/lx (it just gives a blank
> > page) but can still view files on my palmtop. I'm sure there was some
> > mention of this a few months ago but I can't track it down now (I was
> > just about to post a message about it). I think the gist of it was
> > that the user agent name that HV uses may not be recognised as valid
> > by the proxy server.
> >
> > I was reading through the documentation for the lynx web browser and it
> > mentioned how the user agent name can be changed in lynx if it is not
> > recognised or rejected. With my ISP I can still use netscape but not
> > lynx or HV. I haven't tried changing the user agent name for lynx yet.
> >
> > Paul Johnson.
> >
> > Jeremy Martinson wrote:
>

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:50:31 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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Hi all

I have just obtained a Xircom IIps PCMCIA ethernet card.    Does anyone
know the power draw on this card and/or if there are any drivers to allow
me to use it in my DS 200LX?

TIA

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              Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
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Ian,

Good to know that the news.hplx.net server is up again.

I downloaded the recent messages, and found most of them dated 20th August.

Also saw that there are many messages in the news server which I do not
recall seeing in the HPLX list, such as "WARNING! VIRUS IS ON THE WAY TO
THE 200LX COMMUNITY!"

Did we miss anything on the HPLX list ?

At 09:46 AM 8/19/00 -0700, ian Butler wrote:
 >For those of you who were asking: the list.hplx newsgroup at news.hplx.net
 >is now mirroring HPLX-L mailing list messages properly, and the messages
 >which were not mirrored to the group since 01 Aug 2000 have been processed
 >and are now in the group (along with a few older posts that had also
 >missed getting mirrored to the newsgroup).  This particular problem should
 >not occur again, as the cause of the problem has been found and rectified.
 >We at hplx.net apologize for the inconvenience that was caused to
 >everybody.
 >
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 >http://peace.hplx.net/
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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:05:24 +0100
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              Jeremy Martinson <jeremy.martinson@NOTTINGHAM.AC.UK>
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Thanks for the tip. I'll see if I have an older version of www.exe kicking
around. I did try to trawl through the archives of the newslist (after
several failed attempts at connecting) but I didn't find anything too
illuminating on this topic.

Jeremy


on 20/8/00 02:46, Paul Johnson at paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I tried using an older version of www.exe in place of the more recent
> one I've been using. It worked ! Its the version of www.exe thats
> 46.986 bytes, dated 28/3/99.
>
> I haven't yet tried the new WWW/LX version 3 yet, but when I do it'll
> be one of the first things I'll be checking.
>
> Paul Johnson.
>

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:03:27 -0400
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              Joerg Scheiner <Joerg.Scheiner@GMX.DE>
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Hi,

I will get a new mobile phone from my company. It should be
able to communicate with the hp200 LX via cable or infrared.
Also I use a Libretto 100 and need IRDA so it is no longer
necessary to carry the small docking station only to use the
serial port to go online with the Sagem 850. I think the Nokia
8210 is nice and smaller than the Siemens S35. Do both have the
same crosstalk problem with the HP200 and IRDA? Any opinions
regarding transmission quality and connection stability in voice and
data mode?

Simply what are your recommendations? I like the Sagem much but
sometimes IRDA would be nice.

Best regards
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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:09:22 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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> >Two months ago I dropped my palmtop at Fft airport on a marble floor
> >and the dome for the screw close to the backup battery broke.
>
> sorry, i don't have a cover, but a related question...
>
> to prevent the LX from breaking due to dropping, is it possible to fasten a
> string/chain to the body somehow with superglue or a screwed hook and
> key-ring? where can i drill into the plastic without damaging a vital organ?

I use a leather case, which did prevent the hp200lx from major
damage.

Kind regards

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 09:51:12 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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> I am trying to use the 10 MB flashcard I got from Thaddeus for pre-payin=
g
> for my Dutch Railway Palmtop, but I get "Drive not Ready".  I dropped =
to DOS
> and tried "Format a:" and get the same thing.

Try running fdisk100 on the card (it is found in one of the subdirectories=

on the palmtop's D: drive) then try to format the card.

Steve Carder

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 09:59:27 -0400
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From:         James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Compaq 10 MB flashcard
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See my other messages.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
> Steve Carder
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 9:51 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Compaq 10 MB flashcard
>
>
> > I am trying to use the 10 MB flashcard I got from Thaddeus
> for pre-paying
> > for my Dutch Railway Palmtop, but I get "Drive not Ready".
> I dropped to DOS
> > and tried "Format a:" and get the same thing.
>
> Try running fdisk100 on the card (it is found in one of the
> subdirectories
> on the palmtop's D: drive) then try to format the card.
>
> Steve Carder
>
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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:16:44 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:05:13 -0400 (EDT)

12h48m26s ago ...
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, James Henry wrote:

> Thank Thomas. I was able to format it fine in my laptop then copy all =
my
> files to it. I still can't access it in either of my palmtops so I =
believe
> the problem is something inb my config designed to initialize my Ace =
flash
> card is not compatible with this. I justr can't seem to FIND it!

The ACE card is probably using a config.sys and autoexec.bat on the
card.  You shouldn't need any special setup for the Compaq card.  As a
couple of other folks mentioned, try FDISK100, then format.  You'll
lose the data on the card, but it should be recognized by the 200LX.
If that doesn't work post your config.sys and autoexec.bat files from
drive c: (and from drive a: if you restore the card files.  If these
two files are on the card, the 200 will boot using the versions on the
card.


HTH

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:10:15 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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Hi

A little observation.

I usually start Post.exe from Applicationmanager. I gave 2.2g 289kb.

I can then read and also start some other program. I reply by using
maxdos/Pe:.

SYSTEM
Editor=peh.bat $f $h $x N t1
EditSM=c:\usr\maxdos.com peh.bat $f $h $x N t1

V3.0) needs 294kb to do the same. Not a problem..just a observation.
:-)

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:31:28 -0400
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              "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
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I have the following Palmtop software for sale:

HiJack Version 2.1 graphics conversion and screen capture software by Ins=
et
Systems. Includes 3 =BD" and 5 =BC" floppy discs and manuals. $20.00

Microsoft Works Version 2.0 Word processor with spelling checker and
thesaurus, Database with reporting, Spreadsheet with business graphics, a=
nd
Electronics Communications. Includes 3 =BD" floppy discs and manuals. $20=
.00

Microsoft MS-DOS 5 Upgrade. Manuals still in shrink wrap. Includes 5 =BC"
floppy discs and manuals ( will copy to 3 =BD" floppies, if necessary).
$20.00

Grammatik 5 grammar and spelling checker. Includes 3 =BD" floppy discs an=
d
manuals. $10.00

Quicken for Windows CD-ROM version 4. Still in shrink wrap. Includes CD-R=
OM
disc and manual. $20.00

Sidekick Version 2.0 Includes 3 =BD" floppy discs and manuals. $20.00

Andrew Tobias Managing your Money Version 6.0 Includes 3 =BD" floppy disc=
s and
manuals. $15.00

Prices include shipping within continental United States.

Please do not reply to this group, send email to: rbird2@mich.com
Thank you,

Rodger

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:33:50 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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 >Thank Thomas. I was able to format it fine in my laptop then copy all =
my
 >files to it. I still can't access it in either of my palmtops so I =
believe
 >the problem is something inb my config designed to initialize my Ace =
flash
 >card is not compatible with this. I justr can't seem to FIND it!

If you post your config.sys file we may be able to help figure what the
problem is

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 20:52:53 +0200
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              =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dominik_R=F6ttsches?= <webmaster@BVPPT.DE>
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Subject:      Using 200LX's IR port under Win?
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Hi there,

does anyone have a clue how the palmtop's IR port
can be used by Windows applications via the serial
cable?

Is there any tool for something like this?

Thanks for your reply

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:16:09 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: WTB: 200LX base cover
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Hi Nathalie,

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:29:27 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud <tps-seti@WANADOO.FR> wrote:

> to prevent the LX from breaking due to dropping, is it possible to fasten a
> string/chain to the body somehow with superglue or a screwed hook and
> key-ring? where can i drill into the plastic without damaging a vital organ?

I think the best place for a screw that holds a string / chain or
something like that was the position where David mounted his headphone
jack: It's on the left side. If you look onto the LCMCIA slot it is
about in the middle between the left edga of the slot and the tube
where the screw is mounted.

Another possibility:
It should even be possible to wrap such a string or chain around the
screw tube in this corner and let it out through two little holes
at the corner of the LX case: one hole on the left side and one hole
at the rear.


(Looking from the top, screen part not visible in diagram,
the 'O's are the screw tubes, the ~ and ) should show that the string
is wrapped arounf the screw tube ;-) )



     string
     |
     |
    +|--------------------------------------+
 ----O)                                    O|
    |~                                      DC
    |                                       Serial
    P                                       |
    C       k e y b o a r d                 IR
    M                                       |
    C                                       |
    I                                       Battery
    A                                       |
    |                                       |
    |                                       |
    |O                                     O|
    +---------------------------------------+

To see pictures of David's headphone jack (if you don't understand what
I tried to draw here) see www.hplx.net hardware hacking site!

GTX
daniel

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Hi Jim,

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:15:42 -0400, James Henry <jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM> wrote:

> Thank Thomas. I was able to format it fine in my laptop then copy all my
> files to it. I still can't access it in either of my palmtops so I believe
> the problem is something inb my config designed to initialize my Ace flash
> card is not compatible with this. I justr can't seem to FIND it!

Maybe a 'shot into the oven' (as the Germans are used to say ;-) ):
Wasn't there a driver neede for ACE cards? If yes, maybe you have to
unload it in order to get another card to work?
Have a look into the autoexec.bat if there is a driver called with name
'ace' or something...

GTX
daniel


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Subject:      Re: Siemens S35 or Nokia 8210 for IRDA and voice?
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Hi Joerg,

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:03:27 -0400, Joerg Scheiner <Joerg.Scheiner@GMX.DE> wrote:

> I will get a new mobile phone from my company. It should be
> able to communicate with the hp200 LX via cable or infrared.
> Also I use a Libretto 100 and need IRDA so it is no longer
> necessary to carry the small docking station only to use the
> serial port to go online with the Sagem 850. I think the Nokia
> 8210 is nice and smaller than the Siemens S35. Do both have the
> same crosstalk problem with the HP200 and IRDA? Any opinions
> regarding transmission quality and connection stability in voice and
> data mode?

The problem is the same.
The difference is: The Siemens phones have a low-power IrDA interface,
that has a smaller operation range than the IrDA interface of the Nokia
devices. With the Siemens phones, you can get an IrDA connection only
in a range of up to abt. 20 cm, and within these 20 cm, the
interference between the phone and the LX's IrDA receiver is still
existent.
With the nokia phones, you can go away up to abt. 1m from the palmtop,
and with such a distance, there are no or much less interference
errors.
Two drawbacks, one for the Siemens, one for the nokia phones:

Siemens: I made the experience, that the Siemens phones (I tested the
S25 and The S35, several pieces of each ;-) ) sometimes switch
themselves off after an IrDA connection with WWW/LX is established. I
think this is a software bug in the Siemens phones. It happens quite
often, so I usually use a data cable instead of IrDA.

Nokia: There is no (or at least a very inconvenient) possibility to use
a data cable, so you HAVE to use IrDa. Sometimes a cable is more
convenient, IMO, so you have to consider what you prefer.

If you prefer to use a data cable, go for the Siemens,
if you would like to use IrDA connections (but you have to place the
phone and the LX quite far from each other), go for the Nokia phone!

For more information please see my homepage at www.daniel-hertrich.de
For you, the HPLX <--> mobile phone page and the HPLX <--> S25 page may
be interesting. If you have skills in soldering and electronics, you
can use my instructions to make a very small and light-weight data
cable for the S25 and S35 with a plug for the LX.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:34:29 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:03:27 -0400, Joerg Scheiner <Joerg.Scheiner@GMX.DE> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I will get a new mobile phone from my company.

Sweet :-)

> It should be
> able to communicate with the hp200 LX via cable or infrared.

Infra is the best I think :-)

> Also I use a Libretto 100 and need IRDA so it is no longer
> necessary to carry the small docking station only to use the
> serial port to go online with the Sagem 850.

Cables are such a drag I think..

> I think the Nokia
> 8210 is nice and smaller than the Siemens S35.

I prefer the 8210, but the S35 has voicememo the 8210 does not. S35
also has Wap. It will be a Nokia 8250 on the market soon (rumors)

> Do both have the
> same crosstalk problem with the HP200 and IRDA?

All phones have it, but the Nokia has stronger ir so you can position
the phone longer away from the Hplx and therefor works better than the
Siemens. I have a 7110  a bit more bulky but works fine.

> Any opinions
> regarding transmission quality and connection stability in voice and
> data mode?

I have tried the 8210 for a while. Voice and data was okey. I have not
tried the S35 for data or voice. But according to Hr. Eisele which
lurks here on the list the S35 can be used with irda, but he he uses it
with cable most of the time.

> Simply what are your recommendations? I like the Sagem much but
> sometimes IRDA would be nice.

I would go for the Nokia. Less problems with rf noise.


>
> Best regards
> Joerg Scheiner
>
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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:42:56 -0400
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              rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM
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Jim,

this may be possible. As far as I remember, ACE cards came with special
drivers (acecard.com?) and sometimes even Stacker software. To find out
if the drivers prevent you from accessing the new card, you could try
to reboot and immediately press the "Alt" key to bring up the startup
menu. Use one of the options which do NOT process the startup files,
and then try to access the card. If it does work, there is indeed a
problem with the ACE card drivers.

Tom
Rundel Datentechnik, Germany
www.rundel.net/palmtop


On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:15:42 -0400, James Henry <jhenry@comcastwork.com> wrote:

 > Thank Thomas. I was able to format it fine in my laptop then copy all my
 > files to it. I still can't access it in either of my palmtops so I believe
 > the problem is something inb my config designed to initialize my Ace flash
 > card is not compatible with this. I justr can't seem to FIND it!
 >
 > Jim

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:40:36 PDT
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              Tony Guzewicz <tddgny@NETSCAPE.NET>
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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of GWB?
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Anyone have any suggestions on how I might construct a batch file
that will, first, check to see if there is an existing directory by the
name of today's date (ie 08202000.DIR) and, second, if not then
create the directory by reading the system date?

I want to be able to call this batch file (we'll call it DATEDIR.BAT) from
within a backup routine batch file in order to maintain a complete
system backup going back 7 days. We recently had an accounting
program go whacko under WinNT and it turned out that all three
backups were corrupted! Any suggestions for the DATEDIR.BAT batch
file would be most appreciated, thanks.

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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              are Available.
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I still might be interested in what you have in pcmcia cards 20mg. I bot a
couple of them from you before. What do you have left, if any and how much.
                    thanks.  Harv.
I'm the one who sent the cashiers check, and it took a week to arrive. .

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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Subject:      Re: Using 200LX's IR port under Win?
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Hi Dominik.

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 20:52:53 +0200, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dominik_R=F6ttsches?= <webmaster@BVPPT.DE> wrote:

> does anyone have a clue how the palmtop's IR port
> can be used by Windows applications via the serial
> cable?

It's, as far as I understand, totally impossible, because the wired
serial port AND the IR port of the LX are both COM1, and which one is
used when using COM1 on the LX is switched by software. So there is no
chance to connect both.

There are utilities to connect two different COM ports so that your
computer is only a 'relay station'. If you have a serial port PCMCIA
card that you can use as COM2 on the LX, then you can use such a tool.
But I think it would be less expensive to buy an IrDA dongle for your
laptop that to buy a serial port PCMCIA card....

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:44:54 +0200
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              Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
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Hi,

Further to recent postings on the list about sending an e-mail from the
HP200LX to a GSM phone there is a free service which was originaly only
available in Belgium but which seems now to have expanded to Europe (UK,
Germany, Italy, Spain and maybe some other countries but I can't check =
for
sure).

You have to address your message TO:<GSM Number>@winbox.com and the =
Subject
of the message gets sent as an SMS to the destination phone. The body of =
the
message itself is put in a web mailbox which can be accessed like an =
Hotmail
box. The way I use it is to put all the information in the Subject of the
message (160 Characters max.) and nothing in the Body so that the recipien=
t
hasn't to connect to the WWW to retrieve the message. I also use this =
service
to notify me on GSM of new urgent messages in my POP box. I have used =
this
service for over a year with no problem.

Now the shameless plug, if you click on

 http://www.winbox.com/servlets/winbox.SignPatStep1?userid=3D4848

and register for the service (free), I get a credit to receive an addition=
al 80
SMS per month on top of the free 20 or so SMS/month allocated to each =
user.

Enjoy,

 \/
 /ves


p.s. I have no link with this company except as a satisfied user.

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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2000 13:26:48 -0700
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              LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo <LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Creating Directories By Date
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On 20 Aug 2000, at 21:51, Bob Christopher wrote:

> Anyone have any suggestions on how I might construct a batch file that
> will, first, check to see if there is an existing directory by the
> name of today's date (ie 08202000.DIR) and, second, if not then create
> the directory by reading the system date?
>
> I want to be able to call this batch file (we'll call it DATEDIR.BAT)
> from within a backup routine batch file in order to maintain a
> complete system backup going back 7 days. We recently had an
> accounting program go whacko under WinNT and it turned out that all
> three backups were corrupted! Any suggestions for the DATEDIR.BAT
> batch file would be most appreciated, thanks.

If you had SED from the SUPER site (a 22k stream editor), you
could make the DATEDIR.BAT file look something like this:

@echo off
echo.|date|sed "s/-//g" > tmp.bat
echo set today=%%4> current.bat
call tmp.bat
echo Todays date is %today%
if not exist %today%.dir mkdir %today%.dir

This makes use of the recently discussed trick to capture part of
the "date" command, and uses SED to remove the hyphens.  The
absence of any space after the "4" on "%%4>" is important.

If nothing else, maybe this is a starting point ...good luck.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:06:26 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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I don't have the info on me, but I do back in the office.  However I have
one of those cards somewhere and I do recall looking it up in the manual and
deciding not to use it, as it was 250-300 mA or something like it.
Definitely too much for the LX.   There are very few ethernet cards you can
use under 150mA - the ACCTON and I believe there's someone who does special
low-power cards whose name escapes me.

Don't do it unless you want a new motherboard.  ($$$)

William D.Ll.Brown

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Date:         Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:49:23 -0700
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              ian Butler <ian@HPLX.NET>
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On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Teo Soon Bock wrote:

> I subscribe to HPLX list in Digest mode, but see the "real time"
> messages in the news://news.hplx.net/list.hplx server.  The news
> server is one-way for the list.hplx newsgroup - can read messages, but
> replies and postings will not be mirrored back to this mailing list. I
> wonder why not?  Is it a technical difficulty or what?  After all, the
> news server requires login and p/w, and is not mirrored to the
> mainstream news servers.

Mirroring to the HPLX-L group would be a tricky proposition; we'd have to
have scripts checking so we didn't end up with messages looping back and
forth, and we'd have to have scripts to transform the newsgroup post into
a mail message and send it out; if our news server's mail<->news
capabilities were more than just a hasty afterthought, it might handle all
that automatically, but it doesn't, and since very few people use it for
private groups like we do, they probably won't improve the mail<->news
gateway functions for a while, if at all.

Of course those are not insurmountable problems.  The main reason we don't
mirror newsgroup postings to the HPLX-L mailing list is because we don't
WANT people posting to that group directly.  At all.  It's meant to be a
read-only mirror of postings to this mailing list.  If we could easily
turn off posting access, we would, but the authentication setup on our
news server is such that doing that would double the size of the access
file and make it harder to work with, so we don't.  Still, we would
appreciate it, when you all are replying to list messages on the list.hplx
newsgroup, if you would e-mail your replies to the list
(HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU) and not post them to list.hplx.  A lot more
people will see your message and you'll avoid irritating us.


ian Butler / ian@hplx.net
http://peace.hplx.net/

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Date:         Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:22:13 +0100
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Is there a recommended format for a Phone book PIM file?
I.e:
- What strings should be used as record separators? "+(" and "+)" as in
PIM? Or "+p" as described in PE help, on database handling?
- What strings should be used as field labels: "+p" or "Name:"?
- Each time I open the Phone Book PIM file, PE insists in adding the
current date at the end. Is this of any use?

I have been using D&A Soft's PIM/PE for a long time, almost completely
replacing the usage of the HPLX Appointment Book - the only feature I am
still using from the Appointment Book is the capability to start
maintenance/backup jobs at night.

But the questions above have been stopping me from migrating also the
Phone Book to PIM, although I really miss FIND/LX, when I do not
remember exactly under which name the entry was written.

Thanks in advance,
Paulo

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Bob Christopher wrote:
> Anyone have any suggestions on how I might construct a batch file
> that will, first, check to see if there is an existing directory by the
> name of today's date (ie 08202000.DIR) and, second, if not then
> create the directory by reading the system date?
>
> I want to be able to call this batch file (we'll call it DATEDIR.BAT) from
> within a backup routine batch file in order to maintain a complete
> system backup going back 7 days. We recently had an accounting
> program go whacko under WinNT and it turned out that all three
> backups were corrupted! Any suggestions for the DATEDIR.BAT batch
> file would be most appreciated, thanks.

Get Rexx, I think IBM has a version, there may be others.
Once you've got it this'll make a dir in format yyyymmdd.DIR.

   /**/
   "md" date('S')".DIR"
   exit

This is a better date format to use because it will sort properly if
necessary.

Cheers... Russ

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Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> Bob Christopher wrote:
> > Anyone have any suggestions on how I might construct a batch file
> > that will, first, check to see if there is an existing directory by the
> > name of today's date (ie 08202000.DIR) and, second, if not then
> > create the directory by reading the system date?

Get Perl 4 (free, available for example at SUPER). Write
DATEDIR.BAT
        perl -e "@t=localtime(time);printf 'set
datedir=%%04d%%02d%%02d.dir%%c',$t5+1900,$t4+1,$t3,10"
>setdate.bat
        call setdate.bat
        del setdate.bat
        mkdir %datedir%

The file setdate.bat generated by Perl is just a line like:
        set datedir=20000821.dir

Regards,
Paulo

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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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 << I received my double speed 8MB 200LX today.  I am very happy. It looks
like new.

Jim >>

I'm glad you are satisfied, Jim, with our Dutch railway units.

The units we will be selling are in good shape and we, of course, test them,
clean them up, and do appropriate refurbishing.  I can't guarantee that
everyone will perceive they all look like new, but they will be do as good a
job as we can on them.

We are still quite backed up as you might imagine -- processing the
palmtops, testing, them cleaning them, still doing repairs and normal
upgrades, and trying to fill pre-orders, not to mention new orders. That
means it still may be a couple of weeks before all pre-orders are filled and
we can start processing new orders.

I would REALLY appreciate it if customers do NOT call Marge or Sharon this
week about the status of your pre-order. We will do our best to send you
units as quickly as possible.

THANKS.

Hal from Thaddeus


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  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
  class=272290002-18082000><SPAN
  class=620344715-21082000>&nbsp;&lt;&lt;&nbsp;</SPAN>I received my double speed
  8MB 200LX today.&nbsp; I am very happy. It looks like new.&nbsp;
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  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
  class=272290002-18082000><SPAN class=620344715-21082000>I'm glad you are
  satisfied, Jim, with our Dutch railway units.
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  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
  class=272290002-18082000><SPAN
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  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
  class=272290002-18082000><SPAN class=620344715-21082000>The units we will be
  selling are in good shape and we, of course, test them, clean them up, and do
  appropriate refurbishing.&nbsp; I can't guarantee that everyone will perceive
  they all look like new, but they will be do as good a job as we can on
  them.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
  class=272290002-18082000><SPAN
  class=620344715-21082000></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=620344715-21082000>We
  are still quite backed up as you might imagine -- processing the palmtops,
  testing, them cleaning them, still doing repairs and normal upgrades, and
  trying to fill pre-orders, not to mention new orders. That means it still may
  be a couple of weeks before all pre-orders are filled and we can start
  processing new orders.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
  class=620344715-21082000><BR>I would REALLY appreciate it if customers do NOT
  call Marge or Sharon this week about the status of your pre-order. We will do
  our best to send you units as quickly as possible.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
  class=620344715-21082000><BR>THANKS.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
  class=620344715-21082000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=620344715-21082000>Hal
  from Thaddeus</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Date:         Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:46:40 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

<<I am not sure this is the logo that is on the Palmtops because
I have never seen such a palmtop, but NS' logo can be found
here:

http://www.ns.nl (in Dutch)

Or http://www.ns.nl/gfx/bnshm_homepage.gif

NS (The Dutch Railway) stands for Nederlandse Spoorwegen

   ____
  /    \   \
 <---\  \--->
  \   \____/
>>

Yes, this is the logo. There is also a picture of it on the palmtop on page
8 of our "Late Summer/Early Fall 2000" Ultimate Palmtop Catalog. Maybe we'll
add the picture to our web site.

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Date:         Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:57:28 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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From:         Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Compaq 10 MB flashcard
Comments: To: "jhenry@comcastwork.com" <jhenry@comcastwork.com>
Comments: cc: Wayne Kneeskern <wayne_kneeskern@thaddeus.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

James,

We've not had any troubles with the Compaq cards before. As Tom R suggested,
perhaps it is defective.  If Tom's fdisk command doesn't work, please send
it to me, Hal Goldstein, and include this email, and we'll sent you another.

The Compaq cards normally just work in the HP 200LX, no driver, no hassle.
They are late model Sandisk cards relabled.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Henry mailto:jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 4:10 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Compaq 10 MB flashcard


I am trying to use the 10 MB flashcard I got from Thaddeus for pre-paying
for my Dutch Railway Palmtop, but I get "Drive not Ready".  I dropped to DOS
and tried "Format a:" and get the same thing. Also if I use Filer,
Menu/Options/format card I get the same error.  How do I use this?  I can't
find anything in my original HP 200LX's manual about it. The only reference
seems to be about CIC100 and card modems.  On my original 200LX I have an
Ace 5mb card which works fine but I forget how I initialized it. On my new
200LX, I copied everything from my first 200LX to it, overwriting original
files, so the Ace card works fine in either 200LX. So what do I need to do
to use the new Compaq 10MB card?

Jim

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Date:         Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:16:45 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Here's an idea for an alternatve way to follow the list; subscribe to it
using a free email service like GMX.Net.  GMX allows POP access to your
mail so you can set up a 2nd email folder in WWWLX for it.  After
subscribing to the list all your List traffic will go to that folder.
This will automaticly separate your list traffic from other mail and you
don't have to get the digest and then split it up in your LX.

I must admit _I_ don't use this method but I don't know why it shouldn't
work.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:12:06 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:16:45 +0000, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:

> Here's an idea for an alternatve way to follow the list; subscribe to it
> using a free email service like GMX.Net.  GMX allows POP access to your
> mail so you can set up a 2nd email folder in WWWLX for it.  After
> subscribing to the list all your List traffic will go to that folder.
> This will automaticly separate your list traffic from other mail and you
> don't have to get the digest and then split it up in your LX.
>
> I must admit _I_ don't use this method but I don't know why it shouldn't
> work.

I do that.,I do not use gmx but another Pop3 account. I have "nomail" on
my main account (martin@mobilpost.com) so I post with that address.

It works very well doing it like you suggest :-)

Regards

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway

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Date:         Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:19:47 -0700
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              Surfer Surfer <surf.lx@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Surfer Surfer <surf.lx@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      FLUFF: OT: Carnivore was Re: Palmtop software For Sale.
Comments: To: rbird2@MICH.COM
MIME-Version: 1.0
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This is fluff and as the heading is self explanatory.
Did carnivore flag this maillist sender only ? recepients only ?
What a sad day
 Original Message Edited and Snipped 
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:31:28 -0400 "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
writes:
> HiJack Version 2.1 graphics conversion and screen capture software
> by Inset
> Systems. Includes 3 =" and 5 <" floppy discs and manuals. $20.00

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 06:54:49 +0100
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Phone book format in PIM/PE
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Paulo,

> Is there a recommended format for a Phone book PIM file?
> I.e:
> - What strings should be used as record separators? "+(" and "+)" as in
> PIM? Or "+p" as described in PE help, on database handling?

You can choose whatever you like. You have to tell PE in pe.cfg what
you use as database seperator however. I prefer "+(" as Andreas has
assigned this to a special optical record seperator image.

> - What strings should be used as field labels: "+p" or "Name:"?

Again, whatever you like. I recommend that you check the outline
features of the doc's as it enhances the possibilities to create
subsets. After you have digested that you may want to decide on how to
proceed.

> - Each time I open the Phone Book PIM file, PE insists in adding the
> current date at the end. Is this of any use?

It helps you log your entries. It's like a journal. Puts some order
into the ASCII data ocean :)

> I have been using D&A Soft's PIM/PE for a long time, almost completely
> replacing the usage of the HPLX Appointment Book - the only feature I am
> still using from the Appointment Book is the capability to start
> maintenance/backup jobs at night.

Same here.

> But the questions above have been stopping me from migrating also the
> Phone Book to PIM, although I really miss FIND/LX, when I do not
> remember exactly under which name the entry was written.

I have continued to use my phone entries in the built in phone database
which I have modified to my likings.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 06:54:52 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Idea: Follow HPLX List via GMX free email
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Russ,

> Here's an idea for an alternatve way to follow the list; subscribe to it
> using a free email service like GMX.Net.  GMX allows POP access to your
> mail so you can set up a 2nd email folder in WWWLX for it.  After
> subscribing to the list all your List traffic will go to that folder.
> This will automaticly separate your list traffic from other mail and you
> don't have to get the digest and then split it up in your LX.

While signing up at GMX for a free e-mail adress is a good thing the
basic task of having HPLX-L e-mails in a seperate folder is much easier
to accomplish.

Most e-mail clients have a filter capability which allows you to
redirect/filter incomming mail into specific folders depending on
recurring strings in the header.

I use POST/LX and filter all list mails into a seperate folder. No big
deal at all. Just add a folder with the name hplx in POST/LX and enter
a Filter section similar to the following into your post.cfg file :

FILTER
hplx=hplx


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 07:24:15 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Comments:     RFC822 error: <W> Incorrect or incomplete address field found and
              ignored.
From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Idea: Follow HPLX List via GMX free email
Comments: To: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi,

this also works without gmx: simply use post/lx filter capability!
i do tis now for a long time and it works perfectly.

gtx
daniel

On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:16:45 +0000, Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM> wrote:

> Here's an idea for an alternatve way to follow the list; subscribe to it
> using a free email service like GMX.Net.  GMX allows POP access to your
> mail so you can set up a 2nd email folder in WWWLX for it.  After
> subscribing to the list all your List traffic will go to that folder.
> This will automaticly separate your list traffic from other mail and you
> don't have to get the digest and then split it up in your LX.
>
> I must admit _I_ don't use this method but I don't know why it shouldn't
> work.
>
> Cheers... Russ
>
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home page:             http://www.daniel-hertrich.de
mobile phone:                     +49 (0)177 7955549
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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:30:02 +0200
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              JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR
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From:         Jez Cunningham <JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR>
Subject:      Re: Free E-Mail to SMS Gateway
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Text"
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  On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:44:54 +0200
  Yves Leurquin wrote: You have to address your message TO:
  <GSMNumber>@winbox.com ...

How do you have to format the <GSM number>?  With a + and the country code?
TIA
Jez

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:57:55 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
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From:         Yves Leurquin <leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: OT: Carnivore was Re: Palmtop software For Sale.
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   Surfer Surfer wrote:
> What a sad day

I assume Carnivore is some king of spammer. The nice thing about the mail
forwarding service I use (Bigfoot) is that it automatically filters out =
the
most notorious spammers so that their messages don't even come to your =
POP3
mailbox.

This is important as my HP200LX with its low bandwidth modem and limited
memory is not equiped to handle massive amounts of spam.

 \/
 /ves

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:53:11 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dominik_R=F6ttsches?= <webmaster@BVPPT.DE>
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From:         =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dominik_R=F6ttsches?= <webmaster@BVPPT.DE>
Subject:      Re: Free E-Mail to SMS Gateway
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi,

> Further to recent postings on the list about sending an e-mail from the
> HP200LX to a GSM phone there is a free service which was originaly only
> a vailable in Belgium but which seems now to have expanded to Europe (UK,
> Germany, Italy, Spain and maybe some other countries but I can't check =
> for sure).

There is another American service called quios (http://www.quios.com)
where you can have such as service.
The problem with all is that you first have to be subscribed to get SMS
from these services. You can't send a SMS to anyone who's not subscribed.

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:23:15 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
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From:         =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
Subject:      Re: Siemens S35 or Nokia 8210 for IRDA and voice?
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
In-Reply-To:  <HPLX-L%2000082015101660@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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Hoi,

22.08.2000, 12:11, you wrote:

> devices. With the Siemens phones, you can get an IrDA connection only
> in a range of up to abt. 20 cm, and within these 20 cm, the
> interference between the phone and the LX's IrDA receiver is still
> existent.

...and how much these interferences have an influent is dependent on how
good the receipt (right word=3F) is: E.g. IN my house I can set up just a
very slow connection with a lot of errors. When I go outside or near the
window, it's no problem to establish a stable and fast connection. The
stronger the mobile phone has to transmit it's signals, the more noise it
produces.

> Siemens: I made the experience, that the Siemens phones (I tested the
> S25 and The S35, several pieces of each ;-) ) sometimes switch
> themselves off after an IrDA connection with WWW/LX is established. I
> think this is a software bug in the Siemens phones.

I think so, too. I made some tests with a Win98 laptop, and the same
appears (but actually very rarely). The difference is that Win98 doesn't
crash and www/lx sometimes does. 'Luckily', you don't have to remove the
batteries to revive the phone.

> --

Is there something missing=3F ;-)

> Celia & Daniel Hertrich            d.hertrich@gmx.de

Bye
G=FCnther

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:32:24 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: OT: Carnivore
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Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:27:03 -0400 (EDT)

06h29m08s ago ...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Yves Leurquin wrote:

> I assume Carnivore is some king of spammer.


Nope.  Carnivore is the FBI's email monitoring software.  Sort of an
email version of a phone wiretap.  Big Brother may really be watching
you!


Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:15:35 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: OT: Carnivore
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I don't know why they're making such a big deal about it. PGP makes email
eavesdropping a real challenge. I don't think that there's any easy way to
break the typical 128 bit algorithms used with PGP (yet!). The Windows 9X
client workstation versions costs <$30 and gives you encrypted email,
command line encryption of files, encrypted virtual disks and an IPsec
compliant VPN client. The free version gives ya a lot of these features too.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peniel Romanelli mailto:peniel@WEB2000.NET
>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 10:32 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: HPLX-L FLUFF: OT: Carnivore
>
>
>Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:27:03 -0400 (EDT)
>
>06h29m08s ago ...
>On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Yves Leurquin wrote:
>
>> I assume Carnivore is some king of spammer.
>
>
>Nope.  Carnivore is the FBI's email monitoring software.  Sort of an
>email version of a phone wiretap.  Big Brother may really be watching
>you!

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:17:29 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
From:         Barry <barry@FBTC.NET>
Subject:      Minix/Linux on the 200lx
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>>>>>It's too bad that Minix has only been able to go as far as it
has. Mack made
the first move but no one else with the similar talents has picked
up the
project to advance it further.<<<<<

Dos is in rom on the 200lx and the whole unit was designed with Dos
in mind.  Putting Minix or Linux (if it were possible) would be a
cute trick but have little practical value.  I suspect that's why
nobody's pushed it further.

I'm always amazed at the dedication of linux users.  No matter what
system is being discussed, someone will pop up and ask if linux is
available for it.  The question gets asked monthly on the HP48
newsgroup.  If there was a Timex watch newsgroup I'm sure it would
be asked there.  And I'm sure someone would attempt it.  :)

Hmmm....what about preemptive multitasking in my electric razor?  I
guess it's something to consider.

Barry

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:29:08 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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From:         Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
Subject:      Xcopy
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What is the correct sytax to use to have xcopy copy everything from the c:
drive to a directory on the a: drive called backup?

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:36:46 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Jeff wrote:

> What is the correct sytax to use to have xcopy copy everything from the c:
> drive to a directory on the a: drive called backup?


xcopy c: a:\backup /e

Easily determined with xcopy /?

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:55:14 -0400
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I think this is right:

xcopy c:\*.* a:\backup /s /e /v

If a:\backup does not exist it will ask you if it's a directory or file. If
you answer 'file' it will create a big concatenated file that I have never
heard of anyone having any use for :-/ ......

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff mailto:jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM
>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:29 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: HPLX-L Xcopy
>
>
>What is the correct sytax to use to have xcopy copy everything
>from the c:
>drive to a directory on the a: drive called backup?
>
>Jeff
>
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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:11:43 -0400
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At a plain C: prompt, put

xcopy *.* a:\backup /s

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:29:08 -0700 Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> writes:
>What is the correct sytax to use to have xcopy copy everything from
>the c:
>drive to a directory on the a: drive called backup?
>
>Jeff
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> xcopy c:\*.* a:\backup /s /e /v
>
> If a:\backup does not exist it will ask you if it's a directory or file. If
> you answer 'file' it will create a big concatenated file that I have never
> heard of anyone having any use for :-/ ......

This sounds like an extension to the concatenation capability of the
copy command.  This can be useful if you want to combine several smaller
files into one large one.  I never knew that xcopy could do this as well.

You are correct, however, that when invoked across an entire disk drive
the resulting file would be of little value.

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:05:42 -0400
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> I think this is right:
>
> xcopy c:\*.* a:\backup /s /e /v

I agree.  The /s switch causes xcopy to even copy sub-directories.  The /e
switch causes xcopy to even copy empty sub-directories.  The /v switch
causes xcopy to verify each file it copies.  I personally use, each night
during an automatic backup, the xcopy command, with the /s and /e switches.
I am sure it would not hurt to allow the time for a verify, when the xcopy
is being run while I sleep.

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 14:55:48 -0400
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I think that even when concatinating 2 files it's not very worthwhile
because it still copies the last ctrl-z (EOF) character of the first file.
Most editors willsee this as the end of the ascii file.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Lott mailto:rclott@RO.COM
>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 1:09 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: HPLX-L Xcopy
>
>
>> xcopy c:\*.* a:\backup /s /e /v
>>
>> If a:\backup does not exist it will ask you if it's a
>directory or file. If
>> you answer 'file' it will create a big concatenated file
>that I have never
>> heard of anyone having any use for :-/ ......
>
>This sounds like an extension to the concatenation capability of the
>copy command.  This can be useful if you want to combine
>several smaller
>files into one large one.  I never knew that xcopy could do
>this as well.
>
>You are correct, however, that when invoked across an entire disk drive
>the resulting file would be of little value.
>
>-Chris
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I'm not sure how thorough /v is but I've never been able to tell how much
latency it adds.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Hocking mailto:hocking@TIR.COM
>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 1:06 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: HPLX-L Xcopy
>
>
>> I think this is right:
>>
>> xcopy c:\*.* a:\backup /s /e /v
>
>I agree.  The /s switch causes xcopy to even copy
>sub-directories.  The /e
>switch causes xcopy to even copy empty sub-directories.  The /v switch
>causes xcopy to verify each file it copies.  I personally use,
>each night
>during an automatic backup, the xcopy command, with the /s and
>/e switches.
>I am sure it would not hurt to allow the time for a verify,
>when the xcopy
>is being run while I sleep.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Robert Hocking
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> I think that even when concatinating 2 files it's not very worthwhile
> because it still copies the last ctrl-z (EOF) character of the first file.
> Most editors willsee this as the end of the ascii file.

Is this behavior special to XCOPY?  I've only used the concatenate
feature with COPY, and have not observed this.  Obviously it would
be a problem, as you note.

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:32:15 -0400
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>> I think that even when concatinating 2 files it's not very worthwhile
>> because it still copies the last ctrl-z (EOF) character of
>the first file.
>> Most editors willsee this as the end of the ascii file.
>
>Is this behavior special to XCOPY?  I've only used the concatenate
>feature with COPY, and have not observed this.  Obviously it would
>be a problem, as you note.


I'm not sure and don't have time to experiment. I think it happened with
both. It's possible that it was an issue with DOS 3.3 or below as my memory
of this is from long ago (and far away :->)

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On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:44:54 +0200, Yves Leurquin wrote:

>Further to recent postings on the list about sending an e-mail from the
>HP200LX to a GSM phone there is a free service which was originaly only
>available in Belgium but which seems now to have expanded to Europe (UK,
>Germany, Italy, Spain and maybe some other countries but I can't check =
for
>sure).

Cellnet in the UK have recently introduced an email service for =
customers.
You register and get an address which is <phone number>@mmail.co.uk. =
Email
can then be sent to that address and gets sent on to the phone as SMS.
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Here is an edited transcript (terms of endearment omitted <G>) of
correspondence with Nathalie who demystified the secrets of the French
accents on the HP200LX for me; bless her. Some of you must be
francophiles - well don't you all love Nathalie:)) - and may like to
know how to write proper French to her sometime.

I'm not sure if what follows applies to the US keyboard of the HP200LX,
but it will apply to the Dutch LXs that Thaddeus are offering. BTW, I
hear she is off to Sydney -  probably looking for a Gold in the Olympics
:))

Richard wrote:
......the only one that works is the cedilla. The acute and grave
accents and the circonflex don't work. OTOH,
the German umlaut and other European accents do. What have they got
against
the French? Moi, je vous aime :))

Nathalie wrote:

everything works on the LX, just try
Fn r  (followed by the letter on which you want the acute accent)
Fn t   (  ditto ........................................... ditto  the
grave accent )
Fn e )
Fn a )  these give the accented letters directly
etc
Fn u,  the 2 points ( diaeresis); Fn i,  the tilde
Fn y e (for the circonflex on e)
Fn y a             ditto
Fn y i               etc.
Fn y o
Fn y u


(And, re Windows French keyboard)
ok, to get the circonflex you have to use the "" next to the "p" once
and then the letter (eoau)
to get jtb{ j b
the single  is ctrl+alt+9

have fun,

Nathalie

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&nbsp;
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Here is an edited transcript (terms of endearment omitted &lt;G>) of
correspondence with Nathalie who demystified the secrets of the French
accents on the HP200LX for me; bless her. Some of you must be francophiles
- well don't you all love Nathalie:)) - and may like to know how to write
proper French to her sometime.
<p>I'm not sure if what follows applies to the US keyboard of the HP200LX,
but it will apply to the Dutch LXs that Thaddeus are offering. BTW, I hear
she is off to Sydney -&nbsp; probably looking for a Gold in the Olympics
:))
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Richard wrote:</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">......the only one that works is the cedilla.
The acute and grave accents and the circonflex don't work. OTOH,</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">the German umlaut and other European accents
do. What have they got against</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">the French? Moi, je vous aime :))</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Nathalie wrote:</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">everything works on the LX, just try</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Fn r&nbsp; (followed by the letter on
which you want the acute accent)</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Fn t&nbsp;&nbsp; (&nbsp; ditto ...........................................
ditto&nbsp; the grave accent )</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Fn e )</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Fn a )&nbsp; these give the accented letters
directly</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">etc</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Fn u,&nbsp; the 2 points ( diaeresis);
Fn i,&nbsp; the tilde</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Fn y e (for the circonflex on e)</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Fn y a&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
ditto</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Fn y i&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
etc.</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Fn y o</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Fn y u</font>
<br>&nbsp;
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">(And, re Windows French keyboard)</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">ok, to get the circonflex you have to
use the "" next to the "p" once and then the letter (eoau)</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">to get &ecirc;&ocirc;&acirc;&ucirc; &ecirc;
&acirc;</font>
<br><font face="Arial,Helvetica">the single  is ctrl+alt+9</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">have fun,</font>
<p><font face="Arial,Helvetica">Nathalie</font></html>

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Hans Peter Staber wrote:
>
> While signing up at GMX for a free e-mail adress is a good thing the
> basic task of having HPLX-L e-mails in a seperate folder is much easier
> to accomplish.
>
> Most e-mail clients have a filter capability which allows you to
> redirect/filter incomming mail into specific folders depending on
> recurring strings in the header.
>
> I use POST/LX and filter all list mails into a seperate folder. No big
> deal at all. Just add a folder with the name hplx in POST/LX and enter
> a Filter section similar to the following into your post.cfg file :

I do that too but I think some people are nervous about editing their
.CFG files.  Why else would they choose the difficult options such as
using the HPLX ng (with its poor reliably record) or the ExplodeDigest
option which a number of recent post have discussed problems with?

What (I ass-u-me most) people want from HPLX-L...

1. they want to work with individual posts, not a large digest
2. they don't want the individual posts cluttering their email folder
3. easy reply, they want to reply where they receive
4. reliability; if the list is working, they want to see it

I have tried a couple of different methods and the BEST (for me) is the
filtering we are both using.  I think the GMX trick would be just as
usuable.  The ng (when working) is convient for reading but you have
reply to the list via email, not a ng post.  I haven't tried exploding
digests as I'm already running the best solution (filtering).

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Yves Leurquin wrote:
> I assume Carnivore is some king of spammer.

No, it is the FBI's "super sniffer" for monitoring net traffic at an
ISP.  Big Brother is watching you...

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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Xcopy

Why not just use the backup command in filer for the 200lx?

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> No, it is the FBI's "super sniffer" for monitoring net traffic at an
> ISP.  Big Brother is watching you...

Why do they need this ability?  My understanding is that they can already
read your e-mail from the satellites overhead.

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Ed Padin wrote:
> xcopy c:\*.* a:\backup /s /e /v
>
> If a:\backup does not exist it will ask you if it's a directory or file. If
> you answer 'file' it will create a big concatenated file that I have never
> heard of anyone having any use for :-/ ......

xcopy c:\*.* a:\backup\ /s /e /v

If you add a trailing backslash to the target then DOS will know it
has to be a directory, and not a file, and therefore it won't ask you.

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Robert Hocking wrote:
> > xcopy c:\*.* a:\backup /s /e /v
> The /v switch causes xcopy to verify each file it copies.

I (think I) remember reading somewhere that the target & source DATA
isn't compared; what is compared is the checksum or CRC of each sector
as it's written.  This is a small nit but it is possible for a bad
sector to be written with an identical CRC that would not fail the copy.

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:21:53 -0500
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Ken London wrote:

> Why do they need this ability?  My understanding is that they can already
> read your e-mail from the satellites overhead.

How would that be accomplished?!?! As an avid user of satellites, both
commercial and amateur including an orbiting Russian space station, I have
no fear of any satellite reading my email :)

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:21:18 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff" <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
> How would that be accomplished?!?! As an avid user of satellites, both
> commercial and amateur including an orbiting Russian space station, I have
> no fear of any satellite reading my email :)

I have no idea how it is done...but I have heard from military people that
it can be done.

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Ken London wrote:

> I have no idea how it is done...but I have heard from military people that
> it can be done.

Yup, those satellites can see down through my asphalt roof and through the
plywood and read my screen :) It's even harder for the satellite to read
the email of folks that might live in a tall apartment building where the
satellite actually has to peer through sever different floors.

Now, if one were reading their email *outside* it would be possible to
actually see the screen from a LEO satellite. It's a heck of a lot easier
just to use a system like Carnivore to snag email.

I think we can probably chalk the satellite issue up to an urban
legend. As soon as Mir has cosmonauts on it again in about a month I'll
either ask them or send 'em a packet message to get their opinion on the
subject.

73 de Jeff W4JEF

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:54:06 -0700
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Go watch Ememy of the State.  There is more truth in that movie than you may
realize.  Links on Carnivore below.

http://www.wired.com/news/lycos/0,1306,37915,00.html
http://compnetworking.about.com/compute/compnetworking/library/weekly/aa0719
00a.htm
http://www.msnbc.com/news/440848.asp?0na=21044I0-&cp1=1
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,37967,00.html

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Subject: Re: FLUFF: OT: Carnivore


On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Ken London wrote:

> I have no idea how it is done...but I have heard from military people that
> it can be done.

Yup, those satellites can see down through my asphalt roof and through the
plywood and read my screen :) It's even harder for the satellite to read
the email of folks that might live in a tall apartment building where the
satellite actually has to peer through sever different floors.
             - N

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Colin Thompson wrote:

> Go watch Ememy of the State.  There is more truth in that movie than you may
> realize.  Links on Carnivore below.

Folks, I am the biggest believer in conspiracy theories that you can ever
imagine. I am also somewhat of a survivalist complete with all types of
weapons including handguns, long guns and other arms. I can hunt, farm,
start a fire with no matches, have a small stash of food and generally
believe that the New World Order is a real and living entity.

I also work for the goverment and it's a fairly large goverment
organization for which I work. I know things that would probably make most
of you cringe because I know how the goverment entity works. It may come
to a point one day where *I* am ordered to go out and collect arms from
legally armed citizens. At that point I will give-up my commision and
take-up arms against the goverment. Trust me, with Mack as my witness, I
am an extremist and even believe in UFO's and the like. However, I have
got to tell you that I honestly doubt that *anyone* is using a satellite
to peer over anyone's shoulder to read email. Let's be realistic, it's a
heck of a lot easier just to get an electronic wiretap warrant to
intercept email or to use a Carnivore system. I have seen emails that were
obtained via warrants by the agency for which I work and we didn't use a
satellite :)

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:05:33 -0400
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When I started reading up on the 200LX last year, before getting one, I
remember reading quite a bit about it and mobile phones.  I thought it
was in the FAQ, but all I see there is the GSM information.  Can anyone
tell me somewhere I might find information on the 200LX's compatibility
with phones widely available in the US?  If there isn't information like
that, and I was just dreaming, can you guys just tell me what you know?

As an afterthought...
I now remember the Oki 900 and the development that was done on it using
the 100 and 200LX, in fact that's how I first came across the 200LX.  I
read quite a bit about the Oki 900 but I don't remember if they could
actually be used in conjunction for data calls.

CT

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Hello,

I just thought I would forward this to the list. Someone
here might want to purchase this bundle. I wonder what his
replacement machine will be? <g>

WEB

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From: Alan Turley <silverquill@earthlink.net>
Subject: FS: HP200LX + Accessories $400 - lx.JPG (0/1)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:16:26 GMT

For Sale:  HP 200LX Palmtop Computer
=09* OS:MS DOS
=09*  Double Speed CPU by Times2Tech
=09*  5 MB RAM
=09* 10 MB PCMCIA ATA Flash Drive (SunDisk)

Additional Accessories:
=09* 1414LXM ThinFax Modem & Cable
=09=09- 2 MB Flash RAM
=09=09- MiniFAX Software
=09* ACE DoubleFlash Install ROM Card
=09* Serial Cable
=09* AC Adapter
=09* Cannon Carry Case

Books & Magazines:
=09* HP 200LX User's Guide
=09* PC in your Pocket
=09* 1-2-3 for Dummies Quick Reference

$450 + Shipping

Alan Turley
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arguilios@yahoo.com
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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:46:10 -0500
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              2000 09:05:33 PM
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> When I started reading up on the 200LX last year, before getting one, I
> remember reading quite a bit about it and mobile phones.  I thought it
> was in the FAQ, but all I see there is the GSM information.  Can anyone
> tell me somewhere I might find information on the 200LX's compatibility
> with phones widely available in the US?  If there isn't information like
> that, and I was just dreaming, can you guys just tell me what you know?

I use my 200LX with my digital cell phone (Ericsson), using a PCMCIA
"modem" card that is also made by Ericsson.  Others on the list have
successfully used their 200LX here in the US with various analog and
digital cell phone systems.  Some phones are available these days with
a built-in modem serial port, alleviating the need for a special interface
(other than a usually-custom cable).

I'm getting out of my league here, but isn't the US PCS digital cell
phone based on the GSM standard?  Just on a different frequency band
than our European counterparts?  It isn't clear to me that the various
GSM information is not of benefit to you here in the US.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:52:39 -0400
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>I use my 200LX with my digital cell phone (Ericsson), using a PCMCIA
>"modem" card that is also made by Ericsson.

What model is your Ericson, and what model is the PCMCIA card?

Did a DOS driver come with the PC card?  What was the process of setting it
up?

CT

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Date:         Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:16:44 -0500
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Hi Scott

Saturday, August 12, 2000, you wrote to the list:

S> Name brand Sandisks,
S> (4) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks are available as well.
S> One (1) $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
S> Two (2) $70.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

I realize I am somewhat late in responding to this post but I only
just realized a need for one 20meg Sandisk. If you *still* have one or
if you *get* another, please let me know and I'll send a money order
straight out.


TIA,
 Jack                            mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net

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Date:         Wed, 23 Aug 2000 06:14:49 +0200
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Hi Batch experts,

do you know if there's a possibility to load the amount of free disk
space (as shown by the DIR command in its last output line) into a DOS
environment variable?

I'd like to be able to display the free space of my CF card when my
boot-up start menu appears which also has an item "backup C: to A:".

TNX
daniel

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Hi G|nther

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:23:15 +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= <guenther_eisele@fh-konstanz.de> wrote:

> ...and how much these interferences have an influent is dependent on how
> good the receipt (right word?) is: E.g. IN my house I can set up just a
> very slow connection with a lot of errors. When I go outside or near the
> window, it's no problem to establish a stable and fast connection. The
> stronger the mobile phone has to transmit it's signals, the more noise it
> produces.

ah, good point - I didn't recognize this behaviour by now, but it
sounds reasonable.

> > Siemens: I made the experience, that the Siemens phones (I tested the
> > S25 and The S35, several pieces of each ;-) ) sometimes switch
> > themselves off after an IrDA connection with WWW/LX is established. I
> > think this is a software bug in the Siemens phones.
>
> I think so, too. I made some tests with a Win98 laptop, and the same
> appears (but actually very rarely). The difference is that Win98 doesn't
> crash and www/lx sometimes does. 'Luckily', you don't have to remove the
> batteries to revive the phone.

How often does it happen with your palmtop? When I try to establish an
internet connection via IrDA, it happens extremely often. I'd say in
abt. 75% of all cases.

>
> > --
> 
> Is there something missing? ;-)
>
> > Celia & Daniel Hertrich            d.hertrich@gmx.de


:-)
I took the "just married" out of my signature again, because now it
isn't "just" anymore. Our marriage was on July, 27th. It's four weks
ago now.

GTX
daniel

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Hello, all.

I have AT&T for cell phone service and was sold an "i" model 6160.  I am
told that this phone can be used as a modem with a laptop.  I would assum=
e
this would include my trusty hp200lx.

This would indeed be a great thing if it worked.  Anyone have any ideas i=
f.
1.  the equipment does work
2.  it works with dumb terminal for access (could i infact use
wwwlx????would be nice)
3.  Does AT&T actually support this?

The guy at the store didn't seem to know much.  =


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Subject:      Re: free disk space in DOS environment variable
Comments: cc: d.hertrich@GMX.DE

   >do you know if there's a possibility to load the amount of free disk
   >space (as shown by the DIR command in its last output line) into a
   >DOS environment variable?
   >I'd like to be able to display the free space of my CF card when my
   >boot-up start menu appears which also has an item "backup C: to A:".
Message-Id: <20000823054448.RHT17157.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@12.72.155.69>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 05:44:54 +0000

Well, we can yank that DOS trick out once again...

This time you also need XGREP and SED from the SUPER site (both are small).

This is the essence of the capture of the CF free space amount into an
environment variable called "free".

echo set free=%%1 > tmp.bat
dir a:\ | xgrep "bytes free" | sed "s/ /tmp/" > tmp2.bat
call tmp2

The 2nd line does all the work.
- dir \ output is piped to xgrep
- xgrep throws away all but the summary line containing "bytes free"
- sed converts a leading blank (there's always one) to "tmp"
- result is thrown into tmp2.bat and looks something like
        tmp    18234525 bytes free

The call to tmp2 executes tmp.bat which sets %free%

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:10:43 +0200
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Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:58:22 +0200 (GMT)

Hi All, hi Avi

finally the malfunction of ExplodeDigest in my POST/LX is solved, with
the help of Stefan (Peichl), who gave me the decisive hint (cheers
again Stefan!). I had forgotten, that I got the digest to my private
eMail (where I use the HP) via redirection from my office-adress. So on
this way it must got changed in a way, that ExplodeDigest did'nt work. All
worked properly then after I joined the list directly from my private adress,

Regards, Axel

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Subject:      Re: Siemens S35 or Nokia 8210 for IRDA and voice?
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Hoi,

23.08.2000, 12:08, you wrote:

>> I think so, too. I made some tests with a Win98 laptop, and the same
>> appears (but actually very rarely). The difference is that Win98 doesn't
>> crash and www/lx sometimes does. 'Luckily', you don't have to remove the
>> batteries to revive the phone.

> How often does it happen with your palmtop=3F When I try to establish an
> internet connection via IrDA, it happens extremely often. I'd say in
> abt. 75% of all cases.

Noooouh ;-) Well, I did ~15 connections with the laptop, and I think I had
to turn the phone on 5 times.

With www/lx I remember just 2 "turn offs", with a total of 29 connections.
1 time www/lx crashed, 1 time not. 29 (-> www.log) seems too little, I
think there more. But www/lx tends to 'loose' some connections as
sometimes 2 or 3 connections are summarized in one. So, finally, the S35's
drop out rate is quite low in my case.

Bye
G=FCnther

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Sorry to waste band width but I was wondering...

Is there any value in an old analog cell phone? I was forced to switch
service and buy a new digital phone. My old phone (motorola teletac 250) =
is
like new with an upgraded lithium battery, ac charger, cigarette lighter
adapter and manual. Are there uses for this phone, palmtop or otherwise?
The cheapskate in me can't stand the thought of this perfectly good if
slightly outdated equipment being tossed in the trash.

Thanks,
Tom Salwasser

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Old cell phones can be used for emergency 911 calls without any service
contract needed in the USA. You could give it to a friend/relative to place
in the trunk of their car, and if they get stuck, plug it in to the
cigarette lighter and call for help.

Other than that, you are looking at needing a service contract to use it,
and that will be fairly expensive (since you are a self-proclaimed
"cheapskate".)...

HTH,

Ken

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To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:13 AM
Subject: FLUFF:OT: Used Cell Phones


Sorry to waste band width but I was wondering...

Is there any value in an old analog cell phone? I was forced to switch
service and buy a new digital phone. My old phone (motorola teletac 250) is
like new with an upgraded lithium battery, ac charger, cigarette lighter
adapter and manual. Are there uses for this phone, palmtop or otherwise?
The cheapskate in me can't stand the thought of this perfectly good if
slightly outdated equipment being tossed in the trash.

Thanks,
Tom Salwasser

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> Well, we can yank that DOS trick out once again...
...
> The 2nd line does all the work.
> - dir \ output is piped to xgrep
> - xgrep throws away all but the summary line containing "bytes free"

But XGREP is superflous. When you have SED you might as well use it to
its fullest:

 dir a: | sed "s/0-9.+ bytes free/tmp &/p;d" > tmp2.bat

Just think of all the overhead that is avoided, not to mention you don't
need that whooping 3.5kb XGREP.COM file on your machine ;-)

It could be further refined, too, to only use one temporary batch file.

Incidentally, neither of these methods would work on an empty flashcard, I
think.


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Tom,

Depending on where you are, you might look into a pre-paid cellular card.
Here in Pennsylvania, Bell Atlantic activated by old Analog "Flip phone" for
free - all I did was buy a 60 minute, 90 day phone card. I need to keep the
account "active" by buying new cards at least once every 90 days. I plan to
use it, but if not, you could always throw the card and the phone in the
trunk, and activate the card as needed. Final cost is about $10.00 a month
(60 minute card =$30.00).

Larry


Tom Salwasser wrote:
>
> Sorry to waste band width but I was wondering...
>

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> Is there any value in an old analog cell phone?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Salwasser
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> >I use my 200LX with my digital cell phone (Ericsson), using a PCMCIA
> >"modem" card that is also made by Ericsson.
>
> What model is your Ericson, and what model is the PCMCIA card?

I have an Ericsson CF388 digital cell phone.  I use their DC-12
interface PCMCIA card, which I traded a list member for.  However,
the newest card is a DC-25(??? I can't remember the exact number).

> Did a DOS driver come with the PC card?  What was the process of
> setting it up?

No drivers are needed.  The PCMCIA card looks just like a serial
modem to the 200LX.  Setup is typical for any PCMCIA modem with
any of the variety of internet access programs/packages.  I have
used mine with LX/TCP and WWW/LX successfully.

To enhance the chance of a connection, I would also suggest you
carry a regular PCMCIA modem and an acoustic coupler.  With the
combination of these three (cell, modem and acoustic) I can usually
connect in almost any circumstance.

-Chris Lott


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I remember hearing that just a byte-count is done, to verify that the
same amount of bytes was in the target copy as in the original, but I
don't know for sure what /v does.

--Ted

On 22 Aug 00 22:59, Russel Brooks wrote:
From: Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>

> Robert Hocking wrote:
> > > xcopy c:\*.* a:\backup /s /e /v
> > The /v switch causes xcopy to verify each file it copies.
>
> I (think I) remember reading somewhere that the target & source DATA
> isn't compared; what is compared is the checksum or CRC of each
> sector as it's written.  This is a small nit but it is possible for
> a bad sector to be written with an identical CRC that would not fail
> the copy.
>
> Cheers... Russ
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Chris, thanks for the cell phone information.  One more thing...

>To enhance the chance of a connection, I would also suggest you
>carry a regular PCMCIA modem and an acoustic coupler.  With the
>combination of these three (cell, modem and acoustic) I can usually
>connect in almost any circumstance.

>-Chris Lott

Are you using the Koupler by Konexx?  That's the one and only portable
acoustic coupler I've seen in the past year or so, I'm hoping there are some
competing models.  Also, are you suggesting that the acoustic coupler works
with the cell phone, or are you saying you can just find a landline payphone
or something if the cell connection doesn't work?

CT

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> Are you using the Koupler by Konexx?  That's the one and only portable
> acoustic coupler I've seen in the past year or so, I'm hoping there are some
> competing models.

Mine says

  PORT
  SureLink
  Acoustic Coupler 100
  Part Number CMA0400
  US Patent Number 5134649

on it.  I don't remember where I bought it - it was some years back.  It
operates up to 9600 baud.

> Also, are you suggesting that the acoustic coupler works
> with the cell phone, or are you saying you can just find a landline payphone
> or something if the cell connection doesn't work?

No, I've never actually obtained an acoustic connection through the cell
phone, although I've half-heartedly tried a few times.  My cell phone
doesn't have an optimum arrangement of speaker/mike to easily connect
to my acoustic coupler.  Perhaps folks with separate suction cup couplers
might have better luck - mine is a straich piece approximately the size
of the normal handset.  I've used it mostly from campground payphones
and when overseas on a business trip.

-Chris


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Hoi,

23.08.2000, 16:28, you wrote:

> We should test if it depends on the palmtop or on the S35. It seems to be
> my palmtop (whatever the reason may be) because I had this problem with my
> S25s  (I had a few of them) and with my first S35 AND with my new S35 (I =
had
> to led it exchange by Siemens, because it had another failure).

Maybe you could test this with your other 200lx, and we can test it with
mine when I'm in Berlin next time (~next week or the week after next
week). I'll keep you updated via mail.

> Which software version does your S35 have=3F

It's 05, I think there is no other software version at the moment. Why did
you have to change your first S35=3F

Bye
G=FCnther

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Ah, the SED master finally appears.

I think that SED users who could fit their life's story on a single line would
still complain about the verbosity <g>.

I had to pull my SED documentation on this one, and I understand how it works
(but don't ask me tomorrow) but I don't see how a one temporary batch file
refinement would work (please enlighten me).  Thanks for the improvements,
Laust.

The method could use chkdsk instead, to make it work for an empty flash card
(which would just return "file not found" using dir):

chkdsk a: | sed "s/0-9.+ bytes available on disk/tmp &/p;d" > tmp2.bat

But there's a slight performance hit as chkdsk runs a bit slower than dir
sometimes.

- Longden





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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> Well, we can yank that DOS trick out once again...
...
> The 2nd line does all the work.
> - dir \ output is piped to xgrep
> - xgrep throws away all but the summary line containing "bytes free"

But XGREP is superflous. When you have SED you might as well use it to
its fullest:

 dir a: | sed "s/0-9.+ bytes free/tmp &/p;d" > tmp2.bat

Just think of all the overhead that is avoided, not to mention you don't
need that whooping 3.5kb XGREP.COM file on your machine ;-)

It could be further refined, too, to only use one temporary batch file.

Incidentally, neither of these methods would work on an empty flashcard, I
think.

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You're thinking of the CIA and the NSA... KGB, too, I think. Aliens also.
Not only that... they can read your thoughts. That's why I covered my house
in aluminum foil and fired shots at the neighbor kids.... then the little
white wagon came, but.... I'm feeling much better now. ;P~~~


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ken London mailto:kenlondon@BELD.NET
>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 6:45 PM
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>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
>> No, it is the FBI's "super sniffer" for monitoring net traffic at an
>> ISP.  Big Brother is watching you...
>
>Why do they need this ability?  My understanding is that they
>can already
>read your e-mail from the satellites overhead.
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Hi Tom,

re: Is there any value in an old analog cell phone?

You could donate it to a non-profit or charitable org....

Our local Sheriff's dept. has a program/deal w/ AT&T to take old cell phones
and make them into one-touch 911 devices they then give to women who have
"domestic troubles" i.e., w/ restraining orders against a spouse, former
spouse, or boyfriend (they only work w/ 911 ... which I understand is true
of non-registered phones ... if someone on the list knows, hope they'll
chime in --- If that's true, it could be an extra "emergency device" you can
let someone you care about have in their glove-box).

Don't know if your community has such a thing, of course ... but you can
ask.

Might be tax deductible (<add standard disclaimer here>, I don't even play a
tax expert on TV; so ask a pro.), and or you might just like knowing that
*someone* will get some use out of it.

As a SHORT aside.... Donated a lot of "junk" to a charitable garage sale and
I REALLY felt good, seeing someone carry some of my kitchen stuff to the
"check out" ... I said, to myself, "Yay! Someone's actually going to use
something I've carried through 4 moves without opening!!" Felt better than
tossing it ... 'Course it could've been to give as a gift; then someone else
will move with it 4 times ;-)

HTH,

--tim

PS. There's always eBay....

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Actually, it doesn't take government resources to sniff sattelite traffic. I
have a friend-who's-got-a-friend that sniffs sattelite traffic looking for
'interesting stuff'. The hard part is breaking the encryption on that
traffic.

>Go watch Ememy of the State.  There is more truth in that
>movie than you may
>realize.

Yeah, x-files too.

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Why put the value into an environment variable?  What else do you plan to do
with it?  Displaying the free space might be best handled by a small utility
created just for the purpose, like
http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/diskutil/kg_df105.zip, a free
utility that does just this in 1023 bytes (uncompressed).  It comes with the
assembly language source code too, so you can customize it if you're so
inclined.

Alan

>From: Daniel Hertrich mailto:d.hertrich@GMX.DE
>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:15 AM
>...
>do you know if there's a possibility to load the amount of free disk
>space (as shown by the DIR command in its last output line) into a DOS
>environment variable?
>
>I'd like to be able to display the free space of my CF card when my
>boot-up start menu appears which also has an item "backup C: to A:".

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LXBatch does this. I'm already doing it with my LXBatch written menu
program. Here's some source code:

This snippet will display the free disk space, day of week and a horixontal
bar that shows how much battery is left


--- start code
:apexit
serialoff
lightsleepon
chargeon

:top
screensetup Main Menu


:menu

graph

rem showpcx 400 10 c:\lxb\startrek.pcx
rem showkeys "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" ""
getfree *freespace c:
getweekday *wday
display 220 0 2 "*** Main Menu ***"
display 8 0 1 "Free Space:@freespace@"
display 448 0 1 "BAT: @BATT@  TIME: @TIME@"
display 448 0 1 "                            "
display 500 12 1 "@wday@ @date@"
getbatt *battlvl
rem set battlvl 238
calc *battlvl @battlvl@ - 230
calc *factor 200000 / 70
calc *battlvl @battlvl@ * @factor@
calc *battlvl @battlvl@ / 1000
calc *start 200 - @battlvl@


line 1 @start@ 1 200
line 2 @start@ 2 200
line 3 @start@ 3 200
line 4 @start@ 4 200
line 5 @start@ 5 200
line 6 0 6 200

display 7 15 1 "Battery Level"
line    6 100 10 100
display 12 100 1 "1/2"
line    6 50  10 50
display 12 50 1 "3/4"
line    6 150 10 150
display 12 150 1 "1/4"

scgettasknr tasknum
display 200 15 6 "Work Area:%tasknum%"


openwrite 1 m%tasknum%.bat
write 1 " "
close 1

menu "&Appmanager"  "&Internet Menu""&System Menu""&Dos Apps Menu""&Windows
Apps""&Read Documentation""&Quit"

onerrorgoto top appman Internet system dosapps winapps reader quit



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Striegel, Alan mailto:Striegel@PIOS.COM
>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:13 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: HPLX-L free disk space in DOS environment variable
>
>
>Why put the value into an environment variable?  What else do
>you plan to do
>with it?  Displaying the free space might be best handled by a
>small utility
>created just for the purpose, like
>http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/diskutil/kg_df105.zip, a free
>utility that does just this in 1023 bytes (uncompressed).  It
>comes with the
>assembly language source code too, so you can customize it if you're so
>inclined.
>
>Alan
>
>>From: Daniel Hertrich mailto:d.hertrich@GMX.DE
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:15 AM
>>...
>>do you know if there's a possibility to load the amount of free disk
>>space (as shown by the DIR command in its last output line) into a DOS
>>environment variable?
>>
>>I'd like to be able to display the free space of my CF card when my
>>boot-up start menu appears which also has an item "backup C: to A:".
>
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My guess is that his start menu is a DOS batch file.

Having the value in an environment variable would allow him to place it on the
menu screen as he chooses (ie, in-between some batch file text).

And setting that value in a 5 line batch file using some general utilities might
be preferable to maintaining and modifying a host of small specialized
utilities.

- Longden





"Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM> on 08/23/2000 09:12:49 AM

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Subject:  Re: free disk space in DOS environment variable



Why put the value into an environment variable?  What else do you plan to do
with it?  Displaying the free space might be best handled by a small utility
created just for the purpose, like
http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/diskutil/kg_df105.zip, a free
utility that does just this in 1023 bytes (uncompressed).  It comes with the
assembly language source code too, so you can customize it if you're so
inclined.

Alan

>From: Daniel Hertrich mailto:d.hertrich@GMX.DE
>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:15 AM
>...
>do you know if there's a possibility to load the amount of free disk
>space (as shown by the DIR command in its last output line) into a DOS
>environment variable?
>
>I'd like to be able to display the free space of my CF card when my
>boot-up start menu appears which also has an item "backup C: to A:".

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Striegel, Alan wrote:

> Why put the value into an environment variable?  What else do you plan to do
> with it?  Displaying the free space might be best handled by a small utility
> created just for the purpose, like
> http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/diskutil/kg_df105.zip, a free
> utility that does just this in 1023 bytes (uncompressed).  It comes with the
> assembly language source code too, so you can customize it if you're so
> inclined.

My favourite df clone as always been the one in:

ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/unix/ls-n-df.zoo

It's just 247 bytes, also comes with source, and will give a display along
the lines of this:

C:\>df cd           <- cd means drives C and D
Drive c: has 82018304 bytes =  2503 clusters (  3%) free.
Drive d: has892796928 bytes = 27246 clusters ( 41%) free.

This was of course run on my desktop PC, although I wish my LX had several
gb of disk capacity :-)


Cheers,

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I have a single speed 100LX with a 4MB SmartFAX modem/memory card. The
modem is only 2400 baud but it works with nettamer for email.

I would like to part with it. I do not know the value but I would expect
that the combination is worth $150.

Karl DeLyria

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If this hasn't been sold, I will gladly pay $150 for the combination.

Let me know.
-----Original Message-----
From: Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@RAIN.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:12 PM
Subject: 100 XL for sale


>I have a single speed 100LX with a 4MB SmartFAX modem/memory card. The
>modem is only 2400 baud but it works with nettamer for email.
>
>I would like to part with it. I do not know the value but I would expect
>that the combination is worth $150.
>
>Karl DeLyria
>
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> I think we can probably chalk the satellite issue up to an urban
> legend. As soon as Mir has cosmonauts on it again in about a month I'll
> either ask them or send 'em a packet message to get their opinion on =
the
> subject.

Could the idea have come from cell phones?  I remember a Tom Clancy novel
that used remote sensors like satellites to spy on cellular conversations.=

 I know he is a fiction author, but he tends to make his technology as
accurate as possible.

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Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> > I use POST/LX and filter all list mails into a seperate folder. No big
> > deal at all. Just add a folder with the name hplx in POST/LX and enter
> > a Filter section similar to the following into your post.cfg file :
>
> I do that too but I think some people are nervous about editing their
> .CFG files.

I think it is covered sufficiently in the docs.

> I haven't tried exploding
> digests as I'm already running the best solution (filtering).

Same here. Also your comment about the ng applies :)

HP Staber/Salzburg

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G=FCnther,
 =20
> With www/lx I remember just 2 "turn offs", with a total of 29 connectio=
ns.
> 1 time www/lx crashed, 1 time not. 29 (-> www.log) seems too little, I
> think there more. But www/lx tends to 'loose' some connections as
> sometimes 2 or 3 connections are summarized in one. So, finally, the S3=
5's
> drop out rate is quite low in my case.

I'm a heavy user of IrDA connections with WWW/LX and a Nokia 8810. It
is common to have several tries for a working connection - especially
in crowded places like airports or railway stations. That's due to
cellphone network overload and has nothing to do with WWW/LX.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:34:28 +0200
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Hi

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 14:55:48 -0400, Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM> wrote:

> >> xcopy c:\*.* a:\backup /s /e /v
> >>
> >> If a:\backup does not exist it will ask you if it's a
> >directory or file. If
> >> you answer 'file' it will create a big concatenated file
> >that I have never
> >> heard of anyone having any use for :-/ ......
> >
> >This sounds like an extension to the concatenation capability of the
> >copy command.  This can be useful if you want to combine
> >several smaller
> >files into one large one.  I never knew that xcopy could do
> >this as well.

I think the reason for the question "file or directory" is simply that
if you give a destination name that's not known, xcopy doesn't know if
you want to copy a file into a directory with the given name or if
xcopy shall copy the file into a new file with the new name.

For example:

xcopy c:\autoexec.bat c:\backup\system

can mean: 1. copy the autoexec.bat file into a directory c:\backup\system
that has to be crceated first, because it's not there
2. copy the autoexec.bat file into a file "system" in the backup
directory.

with 1. you gat a new file c:|backup\system\autoexec.bat and
with 2. you get a file c:\backup\system, containing the contents of
c:\autoexec.bat.

GTX
daniel


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Subject:      Re: 200LX and mobile phones
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Hi CT, whoever you are ;-)

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:05:33 -0400, CT <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> When I started reading up on the 200LX last year, before getting one, I
> remember reading quite a bit about it and mobile phones.  I thought it
> was in the FAQ, but all I see there is the GSM information.  Can anyone
> tell me somewhere I might find information on the 200LX's compatibility
> with phones widely available in the US?  If there isn't information like
> that, and I was just dreaming, can you guys just tell me what you know?

nearly all I know about this topic is written on my homepage:
http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx

The general information on this page may be interesting for you, but
when it comes to the description of the several phone models, it's
maybe not much worth for you, because most of them are European models.

GTX
daniel

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I recently lost my 200LX and only have a Transfile Win 200 backup (.TW2)
file.  Does anyone have a method of restoring this file type to a standard
PC hard drive?  Can I emulate a 200LX on a PC and do the restore to it
using something like filer in the HP 100LX Connectivity Pack?

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   Richard E. McEvoy wrote:
> Here is an edited transcript (terms of endearment omitted <G>) of
> correspondence with Nathalie who demystified the secrets of the French
> accents on the HP200LX for me; bless her. Some of you must be

Le texte en fran=E7ais suit.

Thanks to you and Nathalie. As a native French speaking belgian, I never
figured out how to easily type accents on my US Keyboard HP200LX so I =
mostly
write in English and ommit accents when writing in French.

Merci =E0 vous et Nathalie. En tant que francophone de souche, je n'avais
jamais r=E9alis=E9 comment taper les accents sur le clavier am=E9ricain =
de mon
HP200LX. D'habitude je tape en anglais ou bien j'omets les accents en
fran=E7ais. De plus, mes fautes d'orthographe sont plus facilement =
excusables
dans une langue =E9trang=E8re 8-) .

 \/
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   Dominik R=F6ttsches wrote:
> The problem with all is that you first have to be subscribed to get SMS
> from these services. You can't send a SMS to anyone who's not subscribed=
.

This is the nice thing about Winbox.com. ANY mobile phone can receive a =
SMS
without being previously subscribed. You don't even need to be subscribed =
to
send a SMS to a winbox subscriber.

The first time _any_ mobile phone is sent a SMS by _somebody_ via
<GSM>@winbox.com, a mailbox is automatically created on the fly on the =
winbox
server which stores the e-mail message, then immediatly after that a SMS =
is
sent to the GSM with the subject of the message and the password to =
access
the newly created web mailbox at winbox.com.

When the new user connects to his web mailbox he is asked for his password
and some demographic information. He can then access the body (if any) of =
the
message he had been sent. New users get a credit to receive about 20 such =
SMS
per month and can buy/win more if they want.

Hence, pre-registration is not required, the link below only helps me get
more free SMS credits.  :-)

 http://www.winbox.com/servlets/winbox.SignPatStep1?userid=3D4848

 \/
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   Jez Cunningham wrote:
>   <GSMNumber>@winbox.com ...
>
> How do you have to format the <GSM number>?  With a + and the country =
code?

No you shouldn't put a + before the country code. The format for a number =
in
Belgium is e.g. 32476358947@winbox.com  i.e. country code without the + =
and
then phone number @winbox.com.

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   CT wrote:
> was in the FAQ, but all I see there is the GSM information.  Can anyone
> tell me somewhere I might find information on the 200LX's compatibility
> with phones widely available in the US?  If there isn't information =
like
> that, and I was just dreaming, can you guys just tell me what you know?

I have been successfully using my HP200LX with my Ericsson I888 World via
IRDA in the USA. It is a dual band GSM (900Mhz-1900Mh) with built-in =
modem
and IR port. The 1900Mhz is the frequency used in the USA while the =
900Mhz is
the standard in the rest of the world. Some European networks use also
1800Mhz hence the various tri-band phones (900-1800-1900) available now.

 \/
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   Russel Brooks wrote:

> I do that too but I think some people are nervous about editing their
> .CFG files.  Why else would they choose the difficult options such as
> using the HPLX ng (with its poor reliably record) or the ExplodeDigest
> option which a number of recent post have discussed problems with?

The main advantage I see in a separate pop mailbox for e.g the HPLX =
mailing
list over a filter is that you can easily choose whether or not you want =
to
retrieve the list posting during this particular mail run.

When you are connecting over an international GSM communication to your =
ISP,
any additionnal minute of communication can cost a lot. You may prefer to
postpone retrieval of this less time critical mailbox until later in the =
day
when you have access to a higher capacity landline and can use your =
calling
card.

This is for the same reason of limiting on-line time that I use the more
compact format of the Digest over individual mails which each carry their
additonal header overhead.

 \/
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> xcopy c:\autoexec.bat c:\backup\system
>
> can mean: 1. copy the autoexec.bat file into a directory c:\backup\system
> that has to be crceated first, because it's not there
> 2. copy the autoexec.bat file into a file "system" in the backup
> directory.

Don't know how it would affect xcopy, but don't forget that directory
names can have extensions, too.  I'm not sure about the special file
name autoexec.bat, but in general any 8.3 filename is valid for a
directory, too.

I guess by appending the backslash you can unambiguously specify that
the paremeter is a directory rather than a filename.

-Chris

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Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:17:57 -0500 (EST)

I have just had some success with a Qualcomm 860 from Verizon(aka Bell
Atlantic) & their data cable. Phone was $30 after rebate, but cable was
$100 from the dealer(ouch! May be cheaper by shopping on the WEB, but I
was in a hurry). I haven't used it alot, but I'm using it now (with
POST/LX) and if you're reading this, it obviously works. As I remember
thay had a Motorola StarTac which should have worked as well, but both
phone & cable were more expensive. Unfortunatly, no IrDA phones were
available from Verizon which has the best coverage in my area.

BTW, connect speed is 14.4

PS: I have an APEX MobilePlus (33.6) & Motorola MicroTAC cable if
anyone is interested

Cheers...

*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
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And to the following list, I can contribute this:

To obtain the French (or at least Quebecois French) quotation marks, which
look like doubled "less than" and "greater than" symbols, hold Fn and
press the green application keys for HPCalc and AppMgr.

> everything works on the LX, just try
> Fn r  (followed by the letter on which you want the acute accent)
> Fn t   (  ditto ........................................... ditto  the
> grave accent )
> Fn e )
> Fn a )  these give the accented letters directly
> etc
> Fn u,  the 2 points ( diaeresis); Fn i,  the tilde
> Fn y e (for the circonflex on e)
> Fn y a             ditto
> Fn y i               etc.
> Fn y o
> Fn y u


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From:         WEB <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
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              areAvailable.
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Scott,

I have the money order but I was late getting to the post office. I will
mail it tomorrow afternoon. I am getting off work early tomorrow and can
easily make it to the post office. I do hope you have six of the PCMCIA
protectors. I am sending a money order for $20.00.

Thanks for holding them,

William E. Blankenship


> I also some  PCMCIA protectors which are a thick padded leather pouch
> with a strong Velcro seal.
>
> (1) for $4.00
> (3) or more only $3.00 a piece plus $2.00 for shipping and packaging

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
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Subject:      Re: free disk space in DOS environment variable
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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
> do you know if there's a possibility to load the amount of free disk
> space (as shown by the DIR command in its last output line) into a DOS
> environment variable?

Hmm... not sure about the environment variable part but you can display
the free space with this DOS command

  dir d:|find " bytes free"

This requires FIND.EXE which is part of DOS 5 but not included in the
LX's ROM.

I'll think about the environment variable part...

Cheers... Russ

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I was pointing out the fallibility of AI (Artificial Intelligence)
and word searches taken out of context, and the waste of valuable
time and money by bureaucrats, and Agents going off tangents to justify
their appropriation
(This message is send with The First Amendment in mind and for
educational purposes only; the author is not responsible for immoral,
illegal acts you may commit by interpreting this message)
Regardz ...

The original message was:
From: "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:31:28 -0400
Subject: Palmtop software For Sale.
I have the following Palmtop software for sale:
HiJack Version 2.1 graphics conversion and screen capture software by
Inset
Systems. Includes 3 =" and 5 <" floppy discs and manuals. $20.00
etc ...

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Tom Salwasser wrote:
> Is there any value in an old analog cell phone? I was forced to switch

Yes, I think there is.  I believe cell systems are supposed to respond
to 911 emergency calls even if from a non-subscriber.  This means the
phone could be useful left in a car or anywhere else you could find
yourself in trouble.

Cheers... Russ  (who still doesn't have a cell phone)

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Yves Leurquin wrote:
> The main advantage I see in a separate pop mailbox for e.g the HPLX mailing
> list over a filter is that you can easily choose whether or not you want to
> retrieve the list posting during this particular mail run.

Good points.  I hadn't thought of using it to control list transmission
to control online costs.

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> I recently lost my 200LX and only have a Transfile Win 200 backup (.TW2)
> file.  Does anyone have a method of restoring this file type to a standard
> PC hard drive?  Can I emulate a 200LX on a PC and do the restore to it
> using something like filer in the HP 100LX Connectivity Pack?


I don't think you can do anything like that.  Maybe someone here knows
if that "archive" is a format that can be deciphered.

Other than that - find a good friend with a 200 and restore to their
unit and than backup using normal methods.

good luck

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              CT <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET>
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I found this HP video interface on ebay.  I have never heard about it.

-----
Video Interface HPIL HP-IL New In Box!

     Wow. Put this HP 82163 Video Interface into your HP-IL connected to
an HP-IL capable calculator, handheld computer, or palmtop and display
to a video monitor!
-------

Is this true?

CT

by the way,
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=402504653&ed=966190265

is the url

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              Hugo Normand <hugo@HEXAWAY.COM>
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Comments: To: CT <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET>
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I have one in my HP calculator collection. That is use to send data from
HP-IL calculator , typically an HP-41C or HP-71B with the appropriate
module, to a monitor with the RCA connector , or to your TV with the Cable
connector. It work very well, but I think there's no way to make that works
with an 200LX.

Hugo

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Objet : HP-IL video interface, what is it?


I found this HP video interface on ebay.  I have never heard about it.

-----
Video Interface HPIL HP-IL New In Box!

     Wow. Put this HP 82163 Video Interface into your HP-IL connected to
an HP-IL capable calculator, handheld computer, or palmtop and display
to a video monitor!
-------

Is this true?

CT

by the way,
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=402504653&ed=96619026
5

is the url

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Tom,
You can donate it to your local police or sheriff's office or to a spouse
abuse shelter. Any phone can call 911, even if it does not have a service
provider.

Dennis
The Other Cop =8-)

> Is there any value in an old analog cell phone?

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I'd like either a shell account with BitchX access or a small DOS IRC
client for my 5 meg 200LX using LXTCP.  Can anyone offer suggestions?

Also, the palmtop version of Net Tamer has no IRC option, right?  I see
it on the 386+ version I downloaded, but it and a few other things are
missing on the palmtop version.  Is a busy IRC channel too much to
handle?

CT

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----- Original Message -----
From: "CT" <facefaceless@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: jeudi 24 ao{t 2000 3:26
Subject: HP-IL video interface, what is it?


> I found this HP video interface on ebay.  I have never heard about it.

Yes, as said on E-bay, it provides a video out for HP41, 71, 75(8 or 16K
memory, BASIC in RAM) calculators. If my memory still serves, it had 64
columns and 32 lines? You could display to a monitor or tv set
If you had the proper HP-IL (didn't seem very special) cables you could put
a number of extensions on a loop connected to your
hp41 et al, the loop could be 45 feet- 15m long. I someone has more accurate
memories, please correct me.
Now that the subject comes up, anyone interested in:
2 HP75' with a dead rehargeable battery(easily replaceable to anyone who
knows how a soldering iron looks, I believe)
I think they were 16K
1 printer with dead batteries for HP41
1 video interface as on ebay for -European TV-, but must work with any
monitor
 2 HPIL GP/IO interfaces
All in good condition, with manuals, and most likely , years of dust
IF anyone is interested, I'll dig it all out to be more specific.
Be aware that buyer pays for shipping, and it's all in Belgium.
All offers welcome; proceeds will be donated to a deserving entity(doesn't
D.Sargeant's site run short of money?) (My contribution to the list, where I
learned a lot)

HTH

Etienne
ease only stelem@attglobal.net

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Martin" <Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: mercredi 23 ao{t 2000 22:49
Subject: Re: French accents a la Nathalie


> And to the following list, I can contribute this:
>
> To obtain the French (or at least Quebecois French) quotation marks, which
> look like doubled "less than" and "greater than" symbols, hold Fn and
> press the green application keys for HPCalc and AppMgr.


...mine takes Fn + ...More for the double"greater than"...

HTH

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Hi G|nther,

> With www/lx I remember just 2 "turn offs", with a total of 29
> connections.
> 1 time www/lx crashed, 1 time not. 29 (-> www.log) seems too little, I
> think there more. But www/lx tends to 'loose' some connections as
> sometimes 2 or 3 connections are summarized in one. So, finally, the
> S35's
> drop out rate is quite low in my case.


Interesting!
We should test if it depends on the palmtop or on the S35. It seems to be
my palmtop (whatever the reason may be) because I had this problem with my
S25s  (I had a few of them) and with my first S35 AND with my new S35 (I had
to led it exchange by Siemens, because it had another failure).
Which software version does your S35 have?

GTX daniel

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Hello,

HP-IL is an interface, that if memory serves, is for the HP41CV
or HP41CX handheld calculator. This interface allowed devices.
such as printers and other compatible devices, to be interfaced
with the calculator. The HP-IL video interface is just one such
device. I don't think this is compatible with the 100/200LX
palmtop. The interface is completely different.

As a matter of fact I have an HP-IL interface module in mint
condition in the original box with manuals that is free to a
good home when one presents itself. I don't need it since I
don't have the calculator anymore. I have the HP48GX.

William E. Blankenship

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> I found this HP video interface on ebay.  I have never heard about it.
>
> -----
> Video Interface HPIL HP-IL New In Box!
>
>      Wow. Put this HP 82163 Video Interface into your HP-IL connected =
to
> an HP-IL capable calculator, handheld computer, or palmtop and display
> to a video monitor!

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:17:46 +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE> wrote:

(Header still looking bad. :-) But this is fixed according to Tony. But
I have to read the docs of Posth some more)

> Hoi,
>
> 23.08.2000, 12:08, you wrote:
>
> >> I think so, too. I made some tests with a Win98 laptop, and the same
> >> appears (but actually very rarely). The difference is that Win98 doesn't
> >> crash and www/lx sometimes does. 'Luckily', you don't have to remove the
> >> batteries to revive the phone.
>
> > How often does it happen with your palmtop? When I try to establish an
> > internet connection via IrDA, it happens extremely often. I'd say in
> > abt. 75% of all cases.
>
> Noooouh ;-) Well, I did ~15 connections with the laptop,

Is this the laptop you talked about in private mail some time ago?
> and I think I had
> to turn the phone on 5 times.

Okey how was the coverage in that area?

> With www/lx I remember just 2 "turn offs", with a total of 29 connections.
> 1 time www/lx crashed, 1 time not. 29 (-> www.log) seems too little, I
> think there more. But www/lx tends to 'loose' some connections as
> sometimes 2 or 3 connections are summarized in one. So, finally, the S35's
> drop out rate is quite low in my case.

That is not bad. I have no bad ones with mine. But I have to be sure
that I have approx the "correct" distance and then it is working very
well. If I place it to close I have trouble getting connected(arrows up
down down and so on..)

V3.0 is also better. I could not (or it took a lot of time) get News2
to get in touch with my newsserver. Robonews is a lot quicker to
connect when I use irda.

(Btw:Sent you a mail a couple of days ago, have you received it?)

Bye

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Hello all
I'm getting settled in in Ann Arbor and back on the list.
I've got my eye on a Thinkpad 560X on E-bay and was wondering if anyone
had had any luck connecting to the 200LX over the IR link.
Checking back through the archives I see that 360cse, 365xd and 760ed
thinkpads have worked this way so I'm hopeful that the 560X should work.

Thanks

Andrew King
Ann Arbor Michigan
technology is the answer, what was the question

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:03:10 -0700
To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
From: Peter Glusker <pglusker@mcn.org>
Subject: Dos based Medical Letter Drug Interaction Program

Dear Al Kind:

I got your name and email address from the May/June Palmtop Paper article
about resources for the HP palmtop.  I tried emailing you at the address =
in
the paper, but got rejected, so I am trying via the website.  Although I
have not been a subscriber to your listserv, I have used an HP 200 LX for
about eight years or so, in my practice as a neurologist.  Included in =
the
data I carry is the Medical Letter's digitized DOS based Drug Interaction
Program.  It is a very very solid data base, updated several times a =
year.
They have just issued their newest release, which is a Windows version.
While it is a very nice
program, they have simultaneously discontinued the DOS version.  I am
chagrined.  I wrote them and they responded that if there were some more
comments about this lack of the DOS version, they would reconsider.  My
email correspondence with them is reproduced below.

I would appreciate your providing this information to other users of HP
palmtops,so that more feedback could be given to the Medical Letter in
order to keep the DOS version available.

Thank you.

Peter Glusker, MD, FACP

Correspondence with Medical Letter below.

Their address: "Don Gardner" <mletter@best.com>

..........................................................................=
.
To: "Don Gardner" <mletter@best.com>
>From: Peter Glusker <pglusker@mcn.org>
>Subject: Re: Drug Interactions Program
>In-Reply-To: <000c01c00c71$8bca42a0$3fd956ce@com.vip.best.com>
>
>Dear Mr. Gardner:
>
>Thank you for your reply.  I have forwarded your message to the list =
serve
for the Medical Software Review, to help spread the word.  I am also
forwarding your message to the HPLX listserv to make them aware of the
situation in order to provide feedback to you.  Please be aware that your
DOS version runs just fine under Windows NT.  I keep it on my palmtop, =
and
also on my office networked laptop running NT.  This is not to disparage
the slickness of your new Windows version - it IS quite nice - but could
you at least keep the DOS version available??
>
>Thanks.
>
>Peter Glusker, MD, FACP
>
>At 12:45 PM 8/22/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>>   Dr. Peter Glusker:   Thank you for your comments regarding running =
the
>>DOS program.       However, we will keep a record of your comments and
>>email address. I know of two  other comments expressing preference for =
the
>>DOS program over the Windows  program. If we get many other comments, =
then
>>DOS is something we can consider  again.   Sincerely,   Don Gardner The
>>Medical Letter







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Subject:      Re: Siemens S35 or Nokia 8210 for IRDA and voice?
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Hoi,

24.08.00, 18:04, you wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:17:46 +0200, =3D=3FISO-8859-1=3FQ=3FG=3DFCnther_Ei=
sele=3F=3D <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE> wrote:

> (Header still looking bad. :-) But this is fixed according to Tony. But
> I have to read the docs of Posth some more)

If post/lx shows the umlaut correctly, there seems to be something wrong
with posth. But even if it decoded it the right way, the line would still
be too long -> isn't it possible to have an automatic wrap=3F

>> Noooouh ;-) Well, I did ~15 connections with the laptop,

> Is this the laptop you talked about in private mail some time ago=3F

Hm, can't remember. My girlfriend bought this one, an Acer Travelmate.

>> and I think I had
>> to turn the phone on 5 times.

> Okey how was the coverage in that area=3F

Quite good. (80% in "Siemens language", which is good; 100% is quite
seldom).

> That is not bad. I have no bad ones with mine. But I have to be sure
> that I have approx the "correct" distance and then it is working very
> well. If I place it to close I have trouble getting connected(arrows up
> down down and so on..)

I didn't make any tests with the laptop. With the 200lx, there are some
other factors like how you hold the S35 in your hand. But generally
speaking - it works. Of course not for downloading huge messages (like
fullquoted ones ;-))

> V3.0 is also better. I could not (or it took a lot of time) get News2
> to get in touch with my newsserver. Robonews is a lot quicker to
> connect when I use irda.

You download news via mobile phone=3F Hell, it has to be cheap in Norway ;-)
The cheapest rate you can get here in Germany is 0,15 DEM =3D> 0,65 NOK per
minute.

> (Btw:Sent you a mail a couple of days ago, have you received it=3F)

Yes, but I had some trouble with a ZIP disc and my girlfriend isn't able
to resend this mail; you will get a reply as soon as have it -> or can you
resend it=3F)

Bye
G=FCnther

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Date:         Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:31:22 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi friends,

On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:43:37 +0200, Laust Brock-Nannestad <laustbn@DIKU.DK> wrote:

> > The 2nd line does all the work.
> > - dir \ output is piped to xgrep
> > - xgrep throws away all but the summary line containing "bytes free"
>
> But XGREP is superflous. When you have SED you might as well use it to
> its fullest:
>
>  dir a: | sed "s/0-9.+ bytes free/tmp &/p;d" > tmp2.bat

Thank you! both of your command lines work very well for me! But one
thing is still not ideal: Each of your lines need a manual Enter to
do its task. do you know how to send this Enter automatically?

GTX
daniel


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The command lines should not require any manual Enters.

Have you identified where the Enter is required on yours?

I clipped my original 3 liner from the email and ran it as a batch file and it
set the FREE variable with no operator intervention required (after starting the
batch file).

Laust's improved version should be no different in that regards.  You have to be
careful with batch files, and especially with SED commands ... the smallest
lapse in transcription can wreck the code.

But if you ever did want to send an Enter in a batch file, you can use the
command "echo."   The period following the echo is a DOS trick to trigger it.

- Longden





Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> on 08/24/2000 09:31:22 AM

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> > - dir \ output is piped to xgrep
> > - xgrep throws away all but the summary line containing "bytes free"
>
> But XGREP is superflous. When you have SED you might as well use it to
> its fullest:
>
>  dir a: | sed "s/0-9.+ bytes free/tmp &/p;d" > tmp2.bat

Thank you! both of your command lines work very well for me! But one
thing is still not ideal: Each of your lines need a manual Enter to
do its task. do you know how to send this Enter automatically?

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>>Links on Carnivore below.


don't believe everything you read, remember this is a government operation
just how good could it be <g,d&r>

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Try IRC/lx from D&A Software.

I use it practically everyday... 3-4 hours a day.  It serves my needs
well.

I have occasionally created a channel called HP200lx on the Dalnet
servers.  Am yet to meet another IRC user running an actual 200lx on an
IRC session, but... have met several who are users or are familiar with =
the palmtop.

Check out www.dasoft.com

Marcus

> I'd like either a shell account with BitchX access or a small DOS IRC
> client for my 5 meg 200LX using LXTCP.  Can anyone offer suggestions?
>
> Also, the palmtop version of Net Tamer has no IRC option, right?  I see
> it on the 386+ version I downloaded, but it and a few other things are
> missing on the palmtop version.  Is a busy IRC channel too much to
> handle?
>
> CT
>
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Ed Padin wrote:

> You're thinking of the CIA and the NSA... KGB, too, I think. Aliens also.
> Not only that... they can read your thoughts. That's why I covered my house
> in aluminum foil and fired shots at the neighbor kids.... then the little
> white wagon came, but.... I'm feeling much better now. ;P~~~

Thanks Ed; things had been getting out of hand. But I feel so much better now
... I don't think I'll even need the wagon.

Richard


>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Russel Brooks" <rlbrooks@POBOX.COM>
> >> No, it is the FBI's "super sniffer" for monitoring net traffic at an
> >> ISP.  Big Brother is watching you...
> >
> >Why do they need this ability?  My understanding is that they
> >can already
> >read your e-mail from the satellites overhead.

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Folks, this is my first fluff.

Sorry if you've seen it before, but, given the general feeling
of the list, I couldn't resist sharing it with those who haven't.

Cheers...Roger

=============================================================


One night, a Delta twin-engine puddle jumper was
flying somewhere above New Jersey. There were
five people on board: the pilot, Michael Jordan,
Bill Gates, the Dalai Lama, and a hippie.


Suddenly, an illegal oxygen generator exploded
loudly in the luggage compartment, and the
passenger cabin began to fill with smoke. The
cockpit door opened, and the pilot burst into the
compartment.

"Gentlemen," he began, "I have good news and bad
news. The bad news is that we're about to crash in
New Jersey. The good news is that there are four
parachutes, and I have one of them!" With that,
the pilot threw open the door and jumped from the
plane.

Michael Jordan was on his feet in a
flash. "Gentlemen," he said, "I am the world's
greatest athlete. The world needs great athletes.
I think the world's greatest athlete should have
a parachute!" With these words, he grabbed one of
the remaining parachutes, and hurtled through the
door and into the night.

Bill Gates rose and said, "Gentlemen, I am the
world's smartest man. The world needs smart men.
I think the world's smartest man should have a
parachute, too." He grabbed one, and out he
jumped.

The Dalai Lama and the hippie looked at one
another. Finally, the Dalai Lama spoke. "My son,"
he said, "I have lived a satisfying life and have
known the bliss of True Enlightenment. You have
your life ahead of you; you take a parachute, and
I will go down with the plane."

The hippie smiled slowly and said, "Hey, don't
worry, pop. The world's smartest man just jumped
out wearing my backpack."

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Date:         Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:10:07 -0400
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Damn', dude. My grandmother would think that joke was old... I think when I
first heard it Nixon got the backpack and Muhamed Ali was the greatest.

>The hippie smiled slowly and said, "Hey, don't
>worry, pop. The world's smartest man just jumped
>out wearing my backpack."

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Daniel,

you can omit the question about "file or directory" if you append a
backslash to the name of the destination directory, like this:

   xcopy c:\*.* a:\backup\ /s /e /v

This way DOS assumes that you want to create a directory if it does
not exist already.

Tom


On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:34:28 +0200, Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

 > Hi
 >
 > I think the reason for the question "file or directory" is simply that
 > if you give a destination name that's not known, xcopy doesn't know if
 > you want to copy a file into a directory with the given name or if
 > xcopy shall copy the file into a new file with the new name.
 >
 > For example:
 >
 > xcopy c:\autoexec.bat c:\backup\system
 >
 > can mean: 1. copy the autoexec.bat file into a directory c:\backup\system
 > that has to be crceated first, because it's not there
 > 2. copy the autoexec.bat file into a file "system" in the backup
 > directory.
 >
 > with 1. you gat a new file c:|backup\system\autoexec.bat and
 > with 2. you get a file c:\backup\system, containing the contents of
 > c:\autoexec.bat.
 >
 > GTX
 > daniel
 >
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Date:         Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:59:11 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:16:06 +0200, G|nther Eisele wrote:

The above line is with posth3.0 running post.scr with robot/lx:

EditSM=c:\usr\maxdos.com robot.exe "peh.scr $p $f $h $x Y! D Y0012OY"

Works very well. Your name will "never" screwed up again using the Hplx
:-)

> If post/lx shows the umlaut correctly, there seems to be something wrong
> with posth. But even if it decoded it the right way, the line would still
> be too long -> isn't it possible to have an automatic wrap?

I had the exactly the same thought yesterday. I will ask Tony to see if
this can be added. (Tony are you listening?)

> > Is this the laptop you talked about in private mail some time ago?
>
> Hm, can't remember. My girlfriend bought this one, an Acer Travelmate.

Yes that is the one..:-)


> > Okey how was the coverage in that area?
>
> Quite good. (80% in "Siemens language", which is good; 100% is quite
> seldom).

Okey. I am in a full coverage area most of my time.

> Of course not for downloading huge messages (like
> fullquoted ones ;-))

Sorry about that :-)

> > V3.0 is also better. I could not (or it took a lot of time) get News2
> > to get in touch with my newsserver. Robonews is a lot quicker to
> > connect when I use irda.
>
> You download news via mobile phone?

Not with v2.2g, but it can be done much easyier in v3.0

> Hell, it has to be cheap in Norway ;-)
> The cheapest rate you can get here in Germany is 0,15 DEM => 0,65 NOK per
> minute.

I got 0.6675 per minute..:-) I download one or two newsgroups in
addition two three mailaccounts.

> > (Btw:Sent you a mail a couple of days ago, have you received it?)
>
> Yes, but I had some trouble with a ZIP disc and my girlfriend isn't able
> to resend this mail; you will get a reply as soon as have it -> or can you
> resend it?)


Yes I can resend it. Will mail it to you in the same run as this is
sent.

Bye

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:15:08 +0100, Hans Peter Staber wrote:

> G|nther,
>
> > With www/lx I remember just 2 "turn offs", with a total of 29 connections.
> > 1 time www/lx crashed, 1 time not. 29 (-> www.log) seems too little, I
> > think there more. But www/lx tends to 'loose' some connections as
> > sometimes 2 or 3 connections are summarized in one. So, finally, the S35's
> > drop out rate is quite low in my case.
>
> I'm a heavy user of IrDA connections with WWW/LX and a Nokia 8810. It
> is common to have several tries for a working connection - especially
> in crowded places like airports or railway stations. That's due to
> cellphone network overload and has nothing to do with WWW/LX.

Yes this is my experience too. Airports in additon to the rfnoise
problem is not so nice if you are in a hurry :-)

Regards

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Date:         Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:59:17 -0400
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:30:41 -0400, 74737,221 wrote:

> Hello, all.

Hello there..

> I have AT&T for cell phone service and was sold an "i" model 6160.  I am
> told that this phone can be used as a modem with a laptop.

Yes you have been told only half of the throught. You can use this
phone for netacces but you will have to buy Nokia Data Suite.

I know the european version 6110/6150 they can be used for data with
Data Suite with either cable or ir(not irda)

I am not sure that your 6160 has ir at all. I think there is nothing
behind the window in front.

>  I would assume
> this would include my trusty hp200lx.

No. The phone does not have a built in modem. It needs a Win9x
softwaremodem.

> This would indeed be a great thing if it worked.

Yes..

>  Anyone have any ideas if.
> 1.  the equipment does work
> 2.  it works with dumb terminal for access (could i infact use
> wwwlx????would be nice)

See above..

> 3.  Does AT&T actually support this?

I have no idea, but I assume that they can transfer data on their
networks in some way.

> The guy at the store didn't seem to know much.

You can say that again :-)

Not the only store guy that does not know about the features of what he
is selling..

Regards

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Date:         Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:09:37 -0500
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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I do not know if you already have WWW/LX Version 3. If you do,
then IRC/LX can potentially also serve your needs. Both IRC/LX
and WWW/LX Version 3 are commercial products. IRC/LX requires
WWW/LX. Please see http://www.dasoft.com Click on "OUR
PRODUCTS" link. You can even d/l both products and test them.
They run then in Demo mode which is limited, but at least
"demo"nstrative :-) ...

Seeral people who are in this list use it and there is a lot
of knowledge stored in the "communal brain" here :)

Enjoy!

  Avi Meshar
  D&A Software
  http://www.dasoft.com


CT wrote:
> I'd like either a shell account with BitchX access or a small DOS IRC
> client for my 5 meg 200LX using LXTCP.  Can anyone offer suggestions?
>
> Also, the palmtop version of Net Tamer has no IRC option, right?  I see
> it on the 386+ version I downloaded, but it and a few other things are
> missing on the palmtop version.  Is a busy IRC channel too much to
> handle?
>
> CT
>
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Hi Marc: Thanks for the plug. Maybe you can talk about setup
and limitations and what you like and hate in IRC/LX? I am
sure it'll help everyone.

  Avi M. D&A
  http://www.dasoft.com

Marc - wrote:
> Try IRC/lx from D&A Software.
>
> I use it practically everyday... 3-4 hours a day.  It serves my needs
> well.
>
> I have occasionally created a channel called HP200lx on the Dalnet
> servers.  Am yet to meet another IRC user running an actual 200lx on an
> IRC session, but... have met several who are users or are familiar with the palmtop.
>
> Check out www.dasoft.com
>
> Marcus
>
> > I'd like either a shell account with BitchX access or a small DOS IRC
> > client for my 5 meg 200LX using LXTCP.  Can anyone offer suggestions?
> >
> > Also, the palmtop version of Net Tamer has no IRC option, right?  I see
> > it on the 386+ version I downloaded, but it and a few other things are
> > missing on the palmtop version.  Is a busy IRC channel too much to
> > handle?
> >
> > CT
> >
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Date:         Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:09:57 -0500
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              A Meshar <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: OT: Carnivore
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Jeff,

Ken said he does not know how satellites can read email, but
he heard it from people.

But I have a humorous take on your message, if I may... I
think you will enjoy the flight of fancy...

Jeff wrote:
> Yup, those satellites can see down through my asphalt roof and through the
> plywood and read my screen :) It's even harder for the satellite to read
> the email of folks that might live in a tall apartment building where the
> satellite actually has to peer through sever different floors.

Well, they use the LEO Low Earth Orbiting satellites, and
these can simply read sideways through the windows and the
walls, see?  :->

> Now, if one were reading their email *outside* it would be possible to
> actually see the screen from a LEO satellite. It's a heck of a lot easier
> just to use a system like Carnivore to snag email.

I think that actually LEOs are involved and what they read is
the microwave transmissions which carry massive portions of
the backbone of Internet. no <G>...

> I think we can probably chalk the satellite issue up to an urban
> legend.

Not necessarily. We have a friend here (and you have him just
south of your location, who uses satellite downlink. You know
who I am talking about? <G> If not ask Mack.

> As soon as Mir has cosmonauts on it again in about a month I'll
> either ask them or send 'em a packet message to get their opinion on the
> subject.

Are they now allies or stil aliens? <G>

Keep us informed about your extraterrestrial escapades, I
found the reports before very fascinating!

  Avi M. D&A
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Date:         Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:28:34 -0400
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              Martin Bergvill <martin@MOBILPOST.COM>
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:59:11 -0400, Martin Bergvill wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:16:06 +0200, G|nther Eisele wrote:
>
> The above line is with posth3.0 running post.scr with robot/lx:
>
> EditSM=c:\usr\maxdos.com robot.exe "peh.scr $p $f $h $x Y! D Y0012OY"
>
> Works very well. Your name will "never" screwed up again using the Hplx
> :-)

Huh??..I am quite sure it looked nice before sending it.. I have
checked my outbox and it looks alright there.

Maybe the list server screws it up or something?

Regards

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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:29:43 +0200
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              Axel Klag <AKlag@T-ONLINE.DE>
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Subject:      Excluding Fluff
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Hi Al,

because I don't want to receive mails with the topic "FLUFF", I changed
my subscription at LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU with "SET HPLX-L TOPICS: =
-FLUFF", and got it
confirmed. Today I got all this Fluff-Stuff again. I set topics: -fluff
 again
and got the answer, that this is already set. What to do?

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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:35:21 +0200
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              Axel Klag <AKlag@T-ONLINE.DE>
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Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:31:42 +0200 (GMT)

Hi Al,

sorry, I just read in the list-manual list that digests (and I am
subscribed for digest) always
contain ALL topics, so my question is already answered. Sorry, should
have read before posting (same as thinking before talking! <g>)

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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:13:39 -0300
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              "Suquet, Stephan" <ssuquet@APSF.COM.AR>
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Hi all,

Any possibility of using a kind of optic fiber to create a light ring =
on the screen of the 200lx ?

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De:   Systems-Consulting SMTP:systems-consulting@HOME.COM
> Enviado el:   Mi=E9rcoles 21 de Junio de 2000 11:11
> Para: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Asunto:       Re: Backlighting canceled
>=20
> Folks,
>=20
> I went to Staples yesterday and stumbled across a product that helps =
with
> night use of the 200LX.
>=20
> The product is called "Mini Booklight" Model BL094BL  UPC Code =
077073094052.
>=20
> It's from the Lightning Bug, Ltd, Chicago Hts., IL 60411
>=20
> The cost ? $ 4.99 - batteries not included.
>=20
> This light can be used to illuminate the screen and the keyboard. It =
runs on
> two AA's and is very adjustable and light weight. I think you could =
use
> Velcro to hold the 200LX firmly to it's base. It's a simple, cheap =
way to
> have a method to see, for now.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
> 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
> tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
> web: http://Systems-Consulting.com
> Maximizing the results of Information Systems
>=20
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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:18:24 -0300
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Hello,

Looking all the CE stuff I was wondering if there=B4s a program =
allowing to listen E-books or in fact texts like in doc format or =
wathever.
It=B4s surely a bit uncomfortable but it would be really cool to be =
listening (ear stuck on the back of the LX) some news report or some =
little digest
report.

Thanks.



St=E9phane SUQUET LIZARRAGA
PLANIFICACION ECONOMICO-FINANCIERA
AGUAS PROVINCIALES DE SANTA FE S.A.
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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:14:30 +0200
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              =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= <guenther_eisele@FH-KONSTANZ.DE>
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Subject:      Re: Siemens S35 or Nokia 8210 for IRDA and voice?
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Hoi,

25.08.2000, 16:07, you wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:16:06 +0200, G|nther Eisele wrote:

This pipe replacement seems indeed to be a problem of the list server - or
any other mail server which is in the queue which can't handle 8bit
characters in the body:

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

is in your private mail -> this doesn't always work.

> I had the exactly the same thought yesterday. I will ask Tony to see if
> this can be added. (Tony are you listening=3F)

Hehe, but this is not a too heavy problem. When the mail address is left
out, everything is ok. Try to let him do something useful ;-)

>> Quite good. (80% in "Siemens language", which is good; 100% is quite
>> seldom).

> Okey. I am in a full coverage area most of my time.

Don't forget that Nokia's "full coverage" differs from Siemens' full
coverage. Siemens is a bit more 'honest' here. With the S35 I normally get
100% when standing in really good covered areas, like Berlin's subway or
at the Expo.

>> Of course not for downloading huge messages (like
>> fullquoted ones ;-))

> Sorry about that :-)

Ups, that wasn't for you -> but a reason why I don't read the list via
mobile phone.

>> Hell, it has to be cheap in Norway ;-)
>> The cheapest rate you can get here in Germany is 0,15 DEM =3D> 0,65 NOK =
per
>> minute.

> I got 0.6675 per minute..:-) I download one or two newsgroups in
> addition two three mailaccounts.

Ah, so it's the same price in N and D. Doesn't seem that it gets cheaper,
they need every Pfennig for their UMTS licenses ;-)

Bye
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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:20:32 -0700
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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Does anyone use Verizon Wireless Mobile Internet Services? If so, do you
like it and would you recommend it?

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:11:27 -0400
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              Robert Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM>
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From:         Robert Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM>
Subject:      Re: OT: Verizon Wireless
Comments: To: Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>

> Does anyone use Verizon Wireless Mobile Internet Services? If so, do you
> like it and would you recommend it?
>
> Jeff

Jeff,

I have been with Airtouch/Verizon for many years now, and have been through
many iterations of different phones.  Currently I am using a Samsung SCH-850
flip phone that has the wireless mobile internet service, and it is pretty
cool.  It is my understanding (the mobile web phones) can only access web
site written for mobile web browsers.

I have used it to retrieve directions, and movie info, and such, but I have
to admit, it is more like a toy, than a necessity, for me at least.  I find
currently I am using my laptop, more than ever, so I if I have any web
browsing to do, I do it from my laptop.  I got tired of not being able to
get to any web site with WWW/LX, and with IE 5.5, and my laptop, I have no
limits.  As far as the mobile web, I guess if you had to have it, and you
didn't mind paying the airtime, then you might like it.

For a long time, I was paying an extra $9.99 per month to have unlimited
weekends, so lengthy browsing on the weekends would be affordable, but I
found I was not using that many weekend minutes, so I am now on the cheapest
plan I can be on, using the discount I get from being a GM Men's Club
employee, I think I pay $0.13 peak, and $0.10 off-peak, and my average bill
runs about $40-50 per month, using my phone anytime, anywhere, but I don't
spend much time on the mobile web.

Also I believe there is a slightly different rate for the mobile web
airtime, something like $0.12 peak or non-peak, at least on my plan.  Hope
this helps, and if I can answer any further questions, let me know.

Best Regards,

Robert Hocking

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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:16:45 -0400
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              Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      another 200LX crash

My 200LX has crashed again, but in a weirder way. I wasn't
doing anything unusual. It was fine last night. When I turned
it on this morning it wasn't doing anything right, in DOS.
I rebooted it and my topcard was gone--it was asking me who
I was, etc. I rebooted again (CTRL-left shift-on) and got my
topcard back. But I couldn't use the backspace key in DOS.
That's a killer--the MAIN use of the machine is my "everything"
file, which requires constant editing. This is just a plain
text file. We're not going to the moon here.

I have also lost the use of the memory card. I had it for a
brief time but now it won't come back. It is always not found,
no matter what drive I ask for. And just about every command
I issue it says there is an invalid drive in the search path
and that drive F: is not found.

Since I haven't installed either PCMCIA desktop card reader
yet, I can't look at the card contents to see if it is bad
(4MB SanDisk). When I get home I can cable transfer the critical
files to either of two desktops (assuming DOS doesn't trip
me up there).

I have a backup of the C: drive at home, on another memory
card (10MB SanDisk). But no good if the 200LX doesn't recognize
it.

I think the C: drive will have to be reformatted with CTRL-
left shift-on, but I'm not doing that until I am sure I have
the files I need elsewhere. Then I'll reformat it and hopefully
transfer everything back to it from the card.

Oh yeah--I used chkdsk /f, and it said there were bad clusters,
etc., and it was going to make 45683243 files out of lost chains
or something like that--a completely wacky scenario.

The main batteries has been in the 90% range. I swapped in a fresh
set when the trouble started, just to be safe. The backup battery,
which I replaced last time it crashed a couple of weeks ago, is
99% (it was 95% then).

This is a single speed 200LX, originally 1MB, modified internally
for 5MB.

I have cooked up a workaround by using Memo instead of my usual
DOS text editor, so I can stay at school and work for the rest
of the day.

This is not the level of reliability I expected from the 200LX.
My only thought is perhaps I should have held out for a factory
4MB model--that the upgrade from 1MB to 5MB is flaky.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Mark Shields
-/\_/\-
( O O )
======



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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:56:34 -0400
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              Ed Padin <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: another 200LX crash
Comments: To: Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

The only time I've seen a problem like that was when I had repeated corrupt
file systems. This used to happen on a system that finally broke down and
had to get fixed so it was probably a hardware issue. I used to recharge
batteries in the unit and have since decided to just burn through alkalines.
It's just not worth the heat issues that can lead to hardware failure.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Shields mailto:beamsplitter@JUNO.COM
>Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 11:17 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: HPLX-L another 200LX crash
>
>
>My 200LX has crashed again, but in a weirder way. I wasn't
>doing anything unusual. It was fine last night. When I turned
>it on this morning it wasn't doing anything right, in DOS.
>I rebooted it and my topcard was gone--it was asking me who
>I was, etc. I rebooted again (CTRL-left shift-on) and got my
>topcard back. But I couldn't use the backspace key in DOS.
>That's a killer--the MAIN use of the machine is my "everything"
>file, which requires constant editing. This is just a plain
>text file. We're not going to the moon here.

snip
>This is not the level of reliability I expected from the 200LX.
>My only thought is perhaps I should have held out for a factory
>4MB model--that the upgrade from 1MB to 5MB is flaky.
>
>Thanks for any thoughts.
>
>Mark Shields

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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:04:12 -0700
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:11:27 -0400, Robert Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM> wrote:

> It is my understanding (the mobile web phones) can only access web
> site written for mobile web browsers.

Have you tried it with the DigitalPath.net service? I'd really like to know
if that works as I am considering going with their service.

Thanks for any and all info :-)

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:15:35 -0400
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Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:01:34 -0500 (EST)

Jeff And All:

   I have had it just over a week. I haven't used it with the LX much
   because I need to make an adapter to replace a 1m cable. I have used
   it successfully, but it took a few tries to connect...once connected
   it worked fine, albiet a bit slow @ 14.4.



02h41m02s ago ...
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Jeff wrote:

> Does anyone use Verizon Wireless Mobile Internet Services? If so, do =
you
> like it and would you recommend it?
>
> Jeff

*
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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:39:01 -0500
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Subject:      Re: E-books.
Comments: To: "Suquet, Stephan" <ssuquet@APSF.COM.AR>
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>>it would be really cool to be listening (ear stuck on the back of the LX)
some news report or some little digest<<

Repeated attempts at turning the Palmtop's built-in speaker into a boom-box
have met with failure. The speaker doesn't have what it takes to produce
intelligible speech. I've tried .wav, .midi, .vox, etc. programs. IMO the
results were ok for the novelty value but useless for real world speech.
.ed.

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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:42:06 -0400
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Subject:      Re: another 200LX crash
Comments: To: Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
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Mark,

The concept to follow here is to determine if the 200LX is
malfunctioning. After you remove all the recoverable data to
one of your desktops, remove all cards and the batteries from
the unit, press and hold the power button for about a minute.
This should be sufficient to completely clear the machine.
Restore the batteries in the machine and load the drivers for
the extra RAM. Format the C:\ drive. I would be hesitant to
load up this drive until I tested it for a little while, a day
or so. I would certainly not insert the quirky PCMCIA card
until I was positive that the 200LX hardware is not part of the
problem.

I had something similar happen to me on my old stock 4 meg
unit. I had a program that I just had to see if it would run on
the 200LX. Suffice it to say, this program, after I tried to
debug its configuration file, corrupted all the data on my C:\
drive as well as itself. My config.sys and autoexec.bat looked
more like binary code than ascii text.

I would start with a freshly initialized 200LX with only a
basic config.sys and autoexec.bat and run it for a day or so
just to see if the 200LX is stable. Maybe one of your drivers
is corrupt or some other software has been corrupted and could
be causing this problem. Start with fresh copies of all your
drivers and software.

If it turns out that this is sufficient to determine if the
200LX is stable, reload some of your software and test it for a
time. Load more until you are certain it is not a software
problem. Download them if you have to.

If the 200LX is stable for a couple of days, insert the PCMCIA
card and run FDISK100. Format the card and transfer and run
programs from it. This will let you know if this card is
causing problems.

> I have a backup of the C: drive at home, on another memory
> card (10MB SanDisk). But no good if the 200LX doesn't recognize
> it.

I would consider the backup questionable as far as you drivers
and software might be concerned. I would recommend starting
from scratch. This is just a feeling that I have <g>. I may be
wrong but prudence might be the safest course.

> Oh yeah--I used chkdsk /f, and it said there were bad clusters,
> etc., and it was going to make 45683243 files out of lost chains
> or something like that--a completely wacky scenario.

Nasty!!! This sounds more like corrupted software.

> This is a single speed 200LX, originally 1MB, modified internally
> for 5MB.

Are there drivers controlling this expansion?

> I have cooked up a workaround by using Memo instead of my usual
> DOS text editor, so I can stay at school and work for the rest
> of the day.

Memo is sufficient and you may find that you can get by for a
time while testing the 200LX.

> This is not the level of reliability I expected from the 200LX.
> My only thought is perhaps I should have held out for a factory
> 4MB model--that the upgrade from 1MB to 5MB is flaky.

I agree. I have three of them. Two of which I need to send to
Thaddeus for upgrades. One need case repairs or replacement
parts. The point is, if you think the 200LX is in need of
repair, don't hesitate to send it to Thaddeus. They have a flat
fee of $125.00 to repair the unit. This is really cheap to be
able to use the 200LX. Replace it with one of the newer
palmtops on the market? I don't think so. There isn't a palmtop
on the market that can touch the functionality and flexibility
of the 200LX.

Hope this Helps and Good luck,

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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:00:59 -0400
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Hello,

What ever happened to the Card Light by KTR? While reading the
January/February issue of the Paltop Papers on the CD Infobase,
I ran accross the article, Making the Palmtop Faster, Brighter
and Better. In this article there is discussion of an
eletroluminescent panel operated by a small battery. What I
would like to know is if this is still available and where can
one get one of these external lights?

Thanks.

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I hope this is still useful.  I'm a couple of days behind on my
email.

I have a program called "what.exe" that, depending on it's command
line param, will put practically anything about the computer into
the WHAT= environment variable, including free disk space.  The
command line output with no params gives a list of what it can do.
It's below.

If anyone wants this email me and I'll attach it to the reply.  It's
only 3100 bytes, unzipped.  I also have docs for it somewhere but I
haven't found them quickly.  I'll look around.


                        WHAT - Batch file enhancer

Command                 Purpose     Argument   Environ     Exit
Extended
---------               -------     --------   -------     ----
   ------
CE "prompt" chars Get         Allowable  Character   Character
Echo
                        character   characters

SE "prompt"         Get string  None       String      Length
Echo

DE                    Check DOS   None       Major
(Major*10)  Minor
                              version                    +Minor
version

EE                    Get environ None       Bytes       Bytes/10
10 bytes
                            bytes left   bytes       in exit

FE filespec        Get file    Filespec   Kilobytes   Ks/10Ks
10Ks in
                           size                     (255=directory)
exit

KE driveletter   Get disk    Drive      Kilobytes   Ks/10Ks
10Ks in
                           space
exit

ME                    Check       None       Kilobytes   Ks/10Ks
10Ks in
                           memory
exit

P                       Check for   None       1=yes,0=no
1=yes,0=no  None
                          printer

V number         Get/Set     New mode   Current or  Current or
None
                          video mode             last mode   last
mode

7                       Check for   None       1=yes,0=no
1=yes,0=no  None
                         coprocessor

A                       Check for   None       1=yes,0=no
1=yes,0=no  None
                         ANSI driver

YE                    Get current None       Directory
Level/Drive Drive
                           directory

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Date:         Fri, 25 Aug 2000 23:20:32 +0200
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hello David, Ted, Helmuth,
and all who tried to help in the past with my problem to start
Systemmanager when I am connected to a netware server.

Tonight I found the solution myself.

As soon I am connected to the server I _must_ type the extension in all
executables. (e.g. type command.com not only command).
If I type 200.com it works, if I only type 200 the errormessage is
"cannot execute command"

I found it by chance and if you want by intuition.

best regards,
Werner


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hi,

has anybody of the radio amateurs on the list any experience with APRS
on the HP/LX?
Is there a program that runs on the HP?

73!
Werner
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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 00:13:30 EDT
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              Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: another 200LX crash

Thanks to William and to all who replied. There were many
useful concepts.

I think the cause of the crash, which was different from
the previous one, was leaving DOS LapLink in memory for a
long period (crash caused by software). I, in the mad rush
to start the new school year, forgot the command to turn
DOS LapLink off, and left it on (rebooting will clear it,
but I didn't). DOS, of course, keeps on running even when
the 200LX is turned off. I did use the technique of removing
the batteries and holding down the ON button for 60 seconds.
This, after reboot using CTRL-left shift-on, which wasn't
severe enough, apparently.

So far it isn't really working. XCOPY (with /s switch, which
I already knew, and /v switch) halts either with an 'access
denied' error message or with 'invalid path.' Ir does not copy
all of the files, as it did after the last crash. This computer
is really sick. My files are intact on the 4MB SanDisk card,
and the older ones on the 10MB SunDisk. They are also on the
hard drive of my IBM 9577 Bermuda. But the 200LX still isn't
working right. I'm sure I can make it function after a fashion.
The more severe remedies will have to wait until after I can
either fix the 100LX myself or ship it off to Thaddeus. I think
the 200LX will hobble along until then.

Mark
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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 00:28:08 EDT
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Subject:      Re: another 200LX crash

I agree 100% with not causing the motherboard to heat up
as a result of in-computer battery charging. After some
initial experiments, I've run my 200LX exclusively off battery
power--the Kodak 1600mAH batteries are charged externally in
a slow charger for a week at a time, and the standby Ray-O-Vac
Renewals are charged in a Renewal Power Station.

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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 00:33:57 EDT
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Subject:      200LX crash/memory upgrade

There is no driver software for the memory upgrade
(1MB from the factory 200LX upgraded to 5MB internal)
that I am aware of. Am I missing something?

Mark
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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 01:17:31 -0400
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Yes, you can run APRS on the 200lx.....albeit a might bit slow.

I have run the dos version many times.  It is slow, and the updating take=
s
quite a while.  BUT, it works.

You must run it with very few TSR running and I have not gotten it to wor=
k
in a super carousel session.  Also, I find it works best if run right fro=
m
the dos prompt.

Good luck and hope it works for you.

73
n0xlw
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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 08:03:09 +0200
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   Andrew King wrote:
> I've got my eye on a Thinkpad 560X on E-bay and was wondering if anyone
> had had any luck connecting to the 200LX over the IR link.

The thinkpad 600 can also connect over IR to the HP200LX using Transfile20=
0
so it would be surprising if the 560x wouldn't.

 \/
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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 02:19:09 -0400
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              John J Vanderstel <j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Digital Paths Service Access With Nettamer

Hi All,

I've got a report for all who are experimenting with or using Nettamer's
web browser.

I checked out the free Digital Paths service and it looks like it would
indeed be invaluable for those surfing the web on palmtops. It offers
much better access to information on the web for palmtops by retrieving,
reformatting, and delivering those reformatted web pages to palmtop
computers in real time.

I discovered two problems for those accessing that service with Nettamer:

1.  The URL input field on the HP200.htm page was too short.

I contacted one of Digital Paths' tech support guys and worked closely
with him (until he was admitted to a local hospital for surgery) to get
the HTML input size parameter on the HP200.htm page set to an acceptable
length to accommodate longer URL inputs, while also ensuring that
Nettamer could support the final length designation.

2.  When accessing the Digital Paths service with Nettamer and requesting
a web page, the service seems to return a "Not Found" error message, no
matter what URL is ordered.  It appears to be a problem on their end, but
he ran out of time to figure out the problem before his operation.

He now has a copy of the palmtop version of Nettamer that he will install
on his home desktop computer and experiment with in a DOS window when he
gets back home and is feeling better.  It's my hope that he will find the
problem on his end and will be able to fix it for us.

I'll let you all know if/when he is able to fix the problem.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

BTW, Juno currently offers advertisement free convenience software for
the Palm VII to access Juno email, and it's a free download from Juno's
website.  However, Juno does not yet offer comparable convenience
software for WinCE or DOS based palmtops.

I'm getting very close to gaining that access from my HP200LX.  I now
have Juno web access with Nettamer.  All I really need now is a way to
successfully use the Juno Webmail site to access my Juno email from my
HP200LX.

It appears that Nettamer may have a bug that prevents one from seeing the
"Log in" button on Juno's webmail site, but the author of Nettamer is
currently in the hospital, as well.

I'm hoping that Nettamer (alone or with Digital Paths' help) will
eventually make that "Log in" button on Juno's webmail site visible and
selectable. :-)

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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:40:59 -0700
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Subject:      ripoff case
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Hi,
         Does anyone remember the url for the ripoff carrying case for =
the lx, it's the one that Mitch (I think) uses and talked about some =
time ago on this list.  Thanks in advance for your help
                            =20
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                Terry

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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:51:01 +0000
Reply-To:     melancon@microgear.net
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From:         Mike Melancon <melancon@MICROGEAR.NET>
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The url for the pda page of The Reeline Company is:

http://www.ripoffs.com/hand.htm


The model listed for the 200LX is the CO-29


> Date:          Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:40:59 -0700
> Reply-to:      HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>,
>                Terry Livingston <docliv@KIVA.NET>
> From:          Terry Livingston <docliv@KIVA.NET>
> Subject:       ripoff case
> To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu

> Hi,
>          Does anyone remember the url for the ripoff carrying case for the lx, it's the one that Mitch (I think) uses and
>          talked about some time ago on this list.  Thanks in advance for your help
>
>                                                                                          Terry
>
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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:09:47 -0400
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              geologist@MINDSPRING.COM
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Mark,

I'm not familiar with your memory upgrade but I have the memory
upgrade from Time2 Tech. This requires me to initialize, by
driver in config.sys, the large amount of extra RAM installed
to be used as drive.

William E. Blankenship

> There is no driver software for the memory upgrade
> (1MB from the factory 200LX upgraded to 5MB internal)
> that I am aware of. Am I missing something?

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I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition.


(9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $60.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

(2)  24 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available.
One (1) $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.
Two (2) $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.


I also some  PCMCIA protectors which are a thick padded leather pouch
with a strong Velcro seal.

(1) for $4.00
(3) or more only $3.00 a piece plus $2.00 for shipping and packaging


(1)  2 1/2 Inch  Hitachi 1.44 Gig drives
One (1) for  $20.00 plus $5.00 shipping and packaging.
Two (2) for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging.

One (1) Diamond Stealth II G460 8Meg AGP 3D Video card.
It has only been used for (2) months. $20.00 plus $5.00 for shipping
and packaging.

Payment Terms:  I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to
my address at:

Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

Notes:

I will email you back the very same day  I receive your payment and let
you know that your disks are on the way.

I always send out disks the very next day unless I receive your payment
on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday.

I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded
envelope for a very safe delivery.

All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to
test a customer's new prototype product at work.


If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know
and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you.

The response over the last few months has been just great and the
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"William E. Blankenship" <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM> wrote:
> HP-IL is an interface, that if memory serves, is for the HP41CV
> or HP41CX handheld calculator. This interface allowed devices.
> such as printers and other compatible devices, to be interfaced
> with the calculator. The HP-IL video interface is just one such
> device. I don't think this is compatible with the 100/200LX
> palmtop. The interface is completely different.

Pretty much true, except that HP used it on a number of portable
computers too: 71, 75, 110 aka Portable, and Portable Plus; and they
had plug-in adapters for ISA bus PCs (Vectras of course) and HP 150s.
I wouldn't bother trying to figure out how to use it with the
100/200LX.

> As a matter of fact I have an HP-IL interface module in mint
> condition in the original box with manuals that is free to a good
> home when one presents itself. I don't need it since I don't have
> the calculator anymore. I have the HP48GX.

Oooh.  While I do have a 41C on my desk (for when I'm sitting at the
desk without the 200LX handy, need a calculator to check my
arithmetic, and am too lazy to go get the 200LX), I think I'll pass --
if I want to do HP-IL spelunking I'll probably use a Portable Plus;
I'm afraid I've gotten spoiled by computers with QWERTY keyboards.

Yes, I use Portable Pluses for things.  Sometimes it's good to have
something that can take umpteen hours of typing on something
resembling a real keyboard without being tethered to a wall outlet.
The Tandy Model 100 folks have figured this out too, there's still an
active community of Model 100 users.  Will things be any different for
the 100/200LX in 10 years' time?  Frankly, I kind of hope so: I hope
someone has seen fit to bring out a suitable replacement by then.

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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:28:55 -0400
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Message-Id: <20000826162904.PLAL13787.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@12.72.154.123>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:29:09 +0000

The earlier smaller memory upgrades (to 8mb, I believe) did not require
drivers to be usable... that's what I have (2mb upgraded to 6mb) and
probably what Mark has.

The only drivers with the early upgrades were an optional EMM driver if you
wanted to use EMS, or a double-speed driver, which Mark wouldn't have since
his LX is single speed.

- Longden

   >I'm not familiar with your memory upgrade but I have the memory
   >upgrade from Time2 Tech. This requires me to initialize, by
   >driver in config.sys, the large amount of extra RAM installed
   >to be used as drive.

   >> There is no driver software for the memory upgrade
   >> (1MB from the factory 200LX upgraded to 5MB internal)
   >> that I am aware of. Am I missing something?

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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:56:14 EDT
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Subject:      Re: another 200LX crash

Thanks for the further information--no driver for small memory
upgrades (mine was that way when I got it--don't know what's
inside).

I did pull the batteries out overnight (60 seconds didn't do it),
pulled everything off both memory cards, and reformatted them.
Put software back on the reformatted C: drive from earlier
sources, not copied from the cards. Minimal setup right now,
although everything else was a bunch of games which I rarely
use--don't think they caused it, although they might well have
gotten corrupted.

While I was at it I cleaned things up and instituted a simpler
backup procedure, avoiding the use of xcopy so as to save
power and any possible memory problems during its use.

It's working fine for now. Thanks again!

Mark
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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:43:52 -0700
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I use one of these. Best case I've ever had.
Mike Melancon wrote:
>
> The url for the pda page of The Reeline Company is:
>
> http://www.ripoffs.com/hand.htm
>

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Someone wrote:
>
> The earlier smaller memory upgrades (to 8mb, I believe) did not require
> drivers to be usable... that's what I have (2mb upgraded to 6mb) and
> probably what Mark has.
>

Not 100% correct. I have a 200lx doublespeed 5 meg machine.
It works fine without a driver but there is a tiny wrap
(1/16 of an inch) of the screen to the other side.
Using the driver device=spd31.exe the screen dislays
correctly.

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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:02:44 -0400
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The spd31.exe driver is required for the doublespeed upgrade and has
nothing to do with the memory upgrade. Memory upgrades up to 8 MB
don't need any driver software. It's only the 32 MB, 64 MB and 96
MB memory upgrades which need the rdt2t.exe driver in order make the
extra memory accessible.

Tom


On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:55:00 -0700, "francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com" <francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com> wrote:

 > Someone wrote:
 > >
 > > The earlier smaller memory upgrades (to 8mb, I believe) did not require
 > > drivers to be usable... that's what I have (2mb upgraded to 6mb) and
 > > probably what Mark has.
 > >
 >
 > Not 100% correct. I have a 200lx doublespeed 5 meg machine.
 > It works fine without a driver but there is a tiny wrap
 > (1/16 of an inch) of the screen to the other side.
 > Using the driver device=spd31.exe the screen dislays
 > correctly.

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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:41:33 -0700
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I don't recall where I bought mine. But a quick search on
yahoo came up with one place
<http://toolsforstagecraft.com/n324.htm> that says
>
>  Can't find what you're looking for?
>  Is this your problem?
>
>  "I know the the Reeline / Ripoff pouch I'm looking for but I can't find a place to
>  order it online!"
>  or
>  "I've got a new "Cosmic Whiz-Bang" cell phone and I can't find a pouch to fit it
>  even after thoroughly checking the fitting guide.
>
>  I hear this problem occasionally and it's understandable considering how fast cell phones are changing.
>
>  If this is your problem, the order button below is your solution.
>
> Add this item to your shopping basket and request the pouch
> you're looking for in the "special instructions" box. Fill
> in everything else just just like in a normal order. When
> we get your order, we will manually adjust the pricing if
> necessary and notify you as to the length of time it will
> take to deliver. All cell phone pouches are normally $19.00
> so a change in price is unlikely.
>
> Special orders don't upset us, but please remember these
> are "special orders" and may take additional
> time to to accomdate your request.
>
They have a toll free number so you can give them a call and
see about the one for the 200lx. Saddly i don't recall them
number and I've looked everywhere on mine and can't find any
number.

> Order by Phone
>   toll free 1-877-80tools
>     1-877-808-6657
>     1-818-707-2656
>  International Orders by
>         Phone
>     001-818-707-2656
>        (ENGLISH)

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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:44:19 -0700
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<http://toolsforstagecraft.com/n338.htm> has a list of sizes
and it says
> HP
> 200 LX -- CO29

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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:49:41 -0700
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Thank you, I stand corrected.

Thomas Rundel wrote:
>
> The spd31.exe driver is required for the doublespeed upgrade and has
> nothing to do with the memory upgrade. Memory upgrades up to 8 MB
> don't need any driver software.

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Date:         Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:18:11 -0700
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Good day,

For quick service and the same prices as anywhere else, try
http://www.kbent.com/

Kim Boone who runs this site works with me at HP in corvallis. The Ripoff
case has been the best case that I have used. I use a 360lx case for my
200lx.

David Peterson
dmp24@juno.com
david_m_peterson@hp.com

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:40:59 -0700 Terry Livingston <docliv@KIVA.NET>
writes:
> Hi,
>          Does anyone remember the url for the ripoff carrying case
> for the lx, it's the one that Mitch (I think) uses and talked about
> some time ago on this list.  Thanks in advance for your help
>
>
>                     Terry

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Thanks.  I ordered one.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
> David M Peterson
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 12:18 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ripoff case
>
>
> Good day,
>
> For quick service and the same prices as anywhere else, try
> http://www.kbent.com/
>
> Kim Boone who runs this site works with me at HP in
> corvallis. The Ripoff
> case has been the best case that I have used. I use a 360lx
> case for my
> 200lx.
>
> David Peterson
> dmp24@juno.com
> david_m_peterson@hp.com
>
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:40:59 -0700 Terry Livingston <docliv@KIVA.NET>
> writes:
> > Hi,
> >          Does anyone remember the url for the ripoff carrying case
> > for the lx, it's the one that Mitch (I think) uses and talked about
> > some time ago on this list.  Thanks in advance for your help
> >
> >
> >                     Terry
>
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Date:         Sun, 27 Aug 2000 17:07:34 +0800
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Jim Louderback of FreshGear has written a commentary at ZDTV favoring the
HP200LX over other PDAs, at:-

"Past Provides a Better PDA Than Palm, Pocket PC" at
http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/freshgear/commentary/story/0,3679,4751,00.html

"Blast From the Past" at
http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/freshgear/commentary/jump/0,3681,4754,00.html

and

"Can an Old Dog Learn New Tricks?" at
http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/freshgear/commentary/jump/0,3681,4755,00.html


I have not actually seen the HP200LX featured on FreshGear TV.  Maybe soon?

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Date:         Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:00:12 +0200
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Chris Lott wrote:
> I have an Ericsson CF388 digital cell phone.  I use their DC-12
> interface PCMCIA card, which I traded a list member for.  However,
> the newest card is a DC-25(??? I can't remember the exact number).

It's DC-23 and it is very kind to the hp200lx batteries. I Used to have
the PCMCIA in the palmtop all the time cos it didnt draw "any" current.
As a matter a fact I whant to sell the DC23 PCMCIA for the Ericsson
GH388 GSM phone. I also could sell the GH388 if anyone is interested.

DC23 PCMCIA: $50
GH388 phone: $50

> No drivers are needed.  The PCMCIA card looks just like a serial
> modem to the 200LX.  Setup is typical for any PCMCIA modem with
> any of the variety of internet access programs/packages.  I have
> used mine with LX/TCP and WWW/LX successfully.

You also can use it for the built in DataCom.

>
> -Chris Lott
      /tomas moberg
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Obviously the HP200LX is not the panacea due to the processor limitations
(there is no need to Fluff and praise the HP200LX on this list <G>
it is useful as is to many , but the "populus" is lazy they want
point-and-click)
but an HPC/PPC with a Merlin (wireless Modem service) capable of using
a service like dialpad would be better (unless dialpad would like to
come with a version that will work on the Palmtop HP200LX)
also of note: http://www.all-4-free.com/communication/sms.html

On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 17:07:34 +0800 Teo Soon Bock <teosb@POST1.COM>
writes:
> Jim Louderback of FreshGear has written a commentary at ZDTV favoring
the
> HP200LX over other PDAs, at:-
> "Past Provides a Better PDA Than Palm, Pocket PC" at
> http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/freshgear/commentary/story/0,3679,4751,00.html
> "Blast From the Past" at
> http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/freshgear/commentary/jump/0,3681,4754,00.html
> "Can an Old Dog Learn New Tricks?" at
> http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/freshgear/commentary/jump/0,3681,4755,00.html
> I have not actually seen the HP200LX featured on FreshGear TV.
> Maybe soon?

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Date:         Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:13:41 +1000
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Subject:      Daylight savings time (in Australia)

I am currently in Melbourne Australia, and they decided here to go to Summer
time (daylight savings) already so that Australia will be better prepared to
broadcast the olympics next month. Anyway I went into world time and manually
set Daylight savings for Melbourne (which is my local city) and NOTHING
happened!

Normally when I am home in Israel and I set daylight savings, World time
asks me whether I want to modify the system time. I checked this out by doing
it -setting my local city back to Tel Aviv and adjusting daylight savings and
sure enough it worked!

When I switched back to Melbourne it didnt work. I eventually just changed the
time zone for Melbourne.

Has this happened to any Australians on the list!


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Subject:      David Sargeant please write to me

Sorry to bother the list with this (it is HP related though). I am not home
right now and I would like to send an email to Dave Sergeant. If you are reading
this David please reply or could someone send me his email address.

Thanks


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I am currently in Australia (a long way from home). No I am not here for
the Olympics, but I was once again so impressed with the versatility of this
palmtop that I have to rave about it. In Israel I am a customer of an ISP
called Netvision and I have subscribed to their Global romaing service. This
means that I can theoretically travel all over the world and use local ISP's
to get onto the internet for a 0.25c on each call (something like that.

Anyway Netvision have a page on their site which has a script where you select
a city and it gives you the ISP numbers etc. There is also a WIN95 app you can
use for dialing. Neither of these really suit me. BUT They also have a CSV list
with the data for all the ISP's. Great! I downloaded the CSV file, (1.2Mb)
threw out everything except Australia and Thaliand and used GDBLOAD to load
it into an ISP data base which I wrote which had all the fields in it.

So now I have a database - all I needed was to write 2 smart clips for the
data base - one for the LXTCP config file with the DNS servers and another
with the CHAT scripts.

All I had to do (on the plane) was select an ISP. Smart clip the data into memo
and I had the scripts to connect. I set up a couple for each city, and it even
works! (In Thailand and in Melbourne so far!)

Shameless plug! - I am also using 200Mnu to select which ISP I want to use
from each place I am, so it is really painless to use.



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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA modem for Ericsson phone(was: 200LX and mobile phones)
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Chris,

>
> It's DC-23 and it is very kind to the hp200lx batteries. I
> Used to have
> the PCMCIA in the palmtop all the time cos it didnt draw
> "any" current.
> As a matter a fact I whant to sell the DC23 PCMCIA for the Ericsson
> GH388 GSM phone. I also could sell the GH388 if anyone is interested.
>
> DC23 PCMCIA: $50
> GH388 phone: $50
>
> > No drivers are needed.  The PCMCIA card looks just like a serial
> > modem to the 200LX.  Setup is typical for any PCMCIA modem with
> > any of the variety of internet access programs/packages.  I have
> > used mine with LX/TCP and WWW/LX successfully.
>
What is the speed of this modem?

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Date:         Sun, 27 Aug 2000 17:35:45 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Robert Hocking <hocking@TIR.COM>
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Comments: To: Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>

> Have you tried it with the DigitalPath.net service? I'd really like to
know
> if that works as I am considering going with their service.

Jeff,

I am not sure about your question.  Are you asking if I have tried my web
phone with DigitalPath?  If so, first of all I have not heard of them,
second, I am locked into a contract with my existing carrier, so until it
elapses, I am stuck with them, unless I want to pay the $150.00 cancellation
fee, which I have no intention of doing, because I am happy with the
service.  Sorry I could not be more helpful.

Best Regards,

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:22:25 +1000
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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>Normally when I am home in Israel and I set daylight savings, World time
>asks me whether I want to modify the system time. I checked this out by doing
>it -setting my local city back to Tel Aviv and adjusting daylight savings and
>sure enough it worked!

Hi David & List

I Manually changed Daylight time with Sydney as my local and was not asked
if I wanted all cities updated..ie the rest of the world revolved around
Sydney and I had to change System time by one hour to get Everything
Synched..

I then tried to do same with Melbourne (leaving Sydney as Local)  and I
couldnt get the Daylight savings to activate even tho I said yes...  UNTIL
I changed the checkbox from Auto Southern....to NONE.

Hope this answered the Question..  Another little quirk in our beloved LX  :))

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Date:         Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:28:20 -0400
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              geologist@MINDSPRING.COM
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From:         "William E. Blankenship" <geologist@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: PCMCIA Disks,Protectors and 3D AGP Video cards are Available.
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Scott,

You should be receiving the money order for the five disk
PCMCIA disck protectors sometime this week. I hope these are
not the oned mentioned in this post. Please tell me you are
holding the five that I ordered.

Thanks,

William E. Blankenship

> I also some  PCMCIA protectors which are a thick padded leather pouch
> with a strong Velcro seal.
>
> (1) for $4.00
> (3) or more only $3.00 a piece plus $2.00 for shipping and packaging

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 04:22:31 LOCAL
Reply-To:     Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@proaxis.com>
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From:         Paul Yarnell <pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM>
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I got my replacement Ripoff(s) from
www.kbent.com
I found out after I ordered, that the guy who runs the enterprise is a
co-worker
so I got very direct delivery ;  b. If he is still in business, he carries
several
different sizes.

HTH,

Paul

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:40:59 -0700, Terry Livingston said:

> Hi,
>           Does anyone remember the url for the ripoff carrying case for the lx, it's the one that Mitch (I think) uses and talked about some time ago on this list.  Thanks in advance for your help
>
>                                                                                           Terry
>

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 06:54:01 +0200
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              Tomas Moberg <Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE>
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The DC21 is 2400 and the DC23 is 9600 (SOLD by the way)

James Henry wrote:
> What is the speed of this modem?

      /tomas moberg
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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 07:44:57 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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Hi Barry,

one copy for me, please! :-)

GTX
daniel

On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:01:49 -0500, Barry <barry@FBTC.NET> wrote:

>
> I have a program called "what.exe" that, depending on it's command
> line param, will put practically anything about the computer into
> the WHAT= environment variable, including free disk space.  The
> command line output with no params gives a list of what it can do.
> It's below.

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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA modem for Ericsson phone(was: 200LX and mobile phones)
In-Reply-To:  <200008280454.GAA15478@d1o993.telia.com> from "Tomas Moberg" at
              Aug 28, 2000 06:54:01 AM
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> The DC21 is 2400 and the DC23 is 9600 (SOLD by the way)

I have the DC-12, and I'm not aware of the 2400 baud limit.  Is this
the same as the DC-21 you mention?  Anyway, I routinely connect at
9600 baud, and was led to believe that was a limit imposed by my
cell phone system, not the modem card.  In fact, they are going to
(or already have) increased the data rate to 14.4Kb.  I'll give it
a try soon and check it out.  I can also check the manual.

-Chris


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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:02:50 +0100
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Does the 200 LX have keyboard auto repeat, i.e. pressing and holding a
key repeats the keyboard press? If it has, it is not working in mine.

Paulo

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:52:22 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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<<
Does the 200 LX have keyboard auto repeat, i.e. pressing and holding a
key repeats the keyboard press? If it has, it is not working in mine.
>>

On my 200LX, going into Memo or DOS and pressing and holding down any key
generates the same character repeatedly.  I had always assumed this was a
standard feature but that it could be turned off with software.

The DOS MODE command lets you adjust the typematic rate (the auto-repeat rate),
but I'm not aware that it can turn it off.

MODE con: rate=1 delay=4 <= sets to the slowest repeat rate
MODE con: rate=32 delay=1     <= sets to fastest repeat rate

Rebooting the LX apparently resets the MODE to the default rate (whatever that
is).

You might want to test your LX by disabling any boot-up TSRs or other software
that may have affected the keyboard.

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 10:58:39 -0500
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              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> Rebooting the LX apparently resets the MODE to the default rate (whatever that
> is).


Rate=20 (approx. characters per second) and delay=2 (0.50 second).

Ted

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:05:26 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
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<<Jim Louderback of FreshGear has written a commentary at ZDTV favoring the
HP200LX over other PDAs, at:->>

Yes, Jim was a subscriber of Palmtop Paper some years back. I bumped into
him at PC Expo in June and was interested to learn that we upgraded and
repaired palmtops. I had him send in his broken palmtop and we fixed and
upgraded it about a month ago.  I also put on Super Software Carousel and
some other goodies including a CD Infobase.  He mentioned that they might
invite me to talk on one of the ZDTV shows about our two "PDA" businesses,
www.palmtoppaper.com, and Pocket PC magazine, www.pocketpcmag.com.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:34:12 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Travelling (Roaming) with the HPLX
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Hoi,

28.08.2000, 17:11, you wrote:

> Anyway Netvision have a page on their site which has a script where you s=
elect
> a city and it gives you the ISP numbers etc. There is also a WIN95 app yo=
u can
> use for dialing. Neither of these really suit me. BUT They also have a CS=
V list
> with the data for all the ISP's.

This sounds like the International Roaming Network my provider is in:
www.gric.com. There is also a 1,2 mb list; interesting that my provider is
not on it=3F!=3F!=3F!
Over 90 countries are supported. If I want to use it I have to buy for the
local call and another ~15 cents a minute for roaming. I haven't tried it
if it works. The numbers for Germany are all "normal" numbers which can be
dialed from hotel or mobile phone.

Bye
G=FCnther

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:34:37 -0400
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Paulo,

my HP 200LX does autorepeat, for example in the built-in apps like
Memo, at the DOS prompt and in the DOS editors I use. Which programs
did you try, and what happens when you hold down a key?

Do you have a "MODE CON:" command in your autoexec.bat, and which
TSRs do you load?

Tom


On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:02:50 +0100, Paulo Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.pt> wrote:

 > Does the 200 LX have keyboard auto repeat, i.e. pressing and holding a
 > key repeats the keyboard press? If it has, it is not working in mine.
 >
 > Paulo
 >
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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:06:35 -0700
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Listers and Avi,

> Hi Marc: Thanks for the plug. Maybe you can talk about setup
> and limitations and what you like and hate in IRC/LX? I am
> sure it'll help everyone.
>
>   Avi M. D&A
>   http://www.dasoft.com

Ok, here goes... undoubtedly I'll leave out a thing or two.

Basically, I monitor/converse in a channel with a group of long time
friends.  While the interface is not as "slick" as say... mIRC for
Windows, the functionality is there.  I can, as a channel op, control
the channel as needed.  As I stated earlier... it suits my needs.  It
is a far cry better than anything offered for WinCE :O)

Some things I'd like to see incorporated into the program thus far are:

        - BEEP on channel activity
        - a Notify function
        - the ability to perform scipts or alias commands (for
        instance, upon connection to an IRC server, being able to send
        a /msg to the nick server to identify my /nick without having
        to do it manually)
        - the ability to switch between multiple channels using a spare
        Function (F-?) key.

Regarding multiple channels, I haven't played with this much, perhaps
what I seek is already there?

If any of this needs clarification... please speak up :O)

Marc

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:30:03 -0700
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Does anyone know of a source for Qualcomm 860 data cables that is less than
$80?

Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:43:05 +0100
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              Paulo Custodio <paulocustodio@YAHOO.COM>
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Somehow I lost the auto-repeat setting, and it did not restore to
default by a cold boot, and without running autoexec.bat.

I have run the command:
        mode con: rate=20 delay=2
and things have come back to normal.

I have inserted the mode line above in autoexec.bat, just in case.

Thanks,
Paulo


Thomas Rundel wrote:
>
> Paulo,
>
> my HP 200LX does autorepeat, for example in the built-in apps like
> Memo, at the DOS prompt and in the DOS editors I use. Which programs
> did you try, and what happens when you hold down a key?
>
> Do you have a "MODE CON:" command in your autoexec.bat, and which
> TSRs do you load?
>
> Tom
>
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:02:50 +0100, Paulo Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.pt> wrote:
>
>  > Does the 200 LX have keyboard auto repeat, i.e. pressing and holding a
>  > key repeats the keyboard press? If it has, it is not working in mine.
>  >
>  > Paulo
>  >
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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:36:30 -0400
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              Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
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Using a Nokia 8110 together with a cable OPTION GSM-Ready
PC-Card for YEARS here in Holland.
_________________________________________
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Palmtop Power!--This email composed on a rugged HP200LX that
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Med vennlig hilsen / Regards /
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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:02:09 -0400
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I have been using the HP LX200 for 6, 7 years. I used to
transfer files to my Mac via MacLink Plus. But it broke a few
years ago and I had to backup to a 20MB CF card.

I have just bought an iMac DV and have added an USB CF card
reader to transfer files from my HP LX200 to the iMac. Worked
fine. Besides the backed up data, I have tried transferring a
small test batch file to the iMac and back to the HP, and the
batch file works afterwards. So I think the files are not
corrupted or "Macified" during transfer.

The data on the CF dard is put into different directories.
However, there is now a problem when I tried to use Filer to
delete the data in the CF card after transfer. When I tried to
delete the directories, there was an error message saying that
some files in the directory are read-only. When I open the
directory, no file is visible from Filer. I use
the attrib command to turn off "read-only", "hidden", and
"archive" of all files in that directory, and I got a new file
back containing the names of all the files formerly in the
directory. But I was able to delete the directory after
deleting that file. This happens to all dirctories being backed
up, but if a directory contains more than one subdirectory, it
seems that only the first subdirectory is changed. Very
strange.

The CF card reader is branded Filand, made in Taiwan, but I
guess that it is an OEM unit selling under different brands in
other places. In short, a generic unit.

I know that there are some Mac users in this list. I should be
grateful if they could share their experience with me.

Best regards,

Ka Tai

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 23:44:24 +0000
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Paulo Custodio wrote:
> I have run the command:
>         mode con: rate=20 delay=2
> and things have come back to normal.
> I have inserted the mode line above in autoexec.bat, just in case.


I like a FAST repeat so I use these values instead...

  mode con: rate=32 delay=1

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:39:49 EDT
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In a message dated 8/26/00 2:18:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM writes:

<< I checked out the free Digital Paths service and it looks like it would
 indeed be invaluable for those surfing the web on palmtops. It offers
 much better access to information on the web for palmtops by retrieving,
 reformatting, and delivering those reformatted web pages to palmtop
 computers in real time.
  >>
John:
Hope the fellow is back soon, healthy & happy.  Nice of him to have tried to
work out the problems.  Will keep my fingers crossed.
Bill

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> The data on the CF dard is put into different directories.
> However, there is now a problem when I tried to use Filer to
> delete the data in the CF card after transfer. When I tried to
> delete the directories, there was an error message saying that
> some files in the directory are read-only. When I open the
> directory, no file is visible from Filer. I use
> the attrib command to turn off "read-only", "hidden", and
> "archive" of all files in that directory, and I got a new file
> back containing the names of all the files formerly in the
> directory.


Possibly something that the mac creates for each directory?  Something
like that happens when I use my pcmcia card in my windows laptop - the
win machine always seems to create a "recycle bin" directory for the
card which win98 sees as a DRIVE and I have to delete it.

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Hi fellow palmtoppers!

Does anybody use Mindmaps on the HP?

Which Software can you recommend?

Thanks,
Tom

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Date:         Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:04:39 +0200
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Dear fellow palmtoppers,

Is there an elegant way of processing listserver digest w/ Outlook express?

Thank you very much in advance,
Tom

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              "Eng. & Industrial Projects" <danaan@OPERA.IINET.NET.AU>
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To the best of my knowledge ( and I've done
quite a bit of searching on mindmaps) there is
no DOS software. I think mainly because the
concept is very graphic and the PC implementation
is post DOS, there was a version floating around
for  Win 3.1

There is also a version for the Psion 5 series
of HPC's

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> Hi fellow palmtoppers!
> Does anybody use Mindmaps on the HP?
> Which Software can you recommend?
> Thanks,
> Tom

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Date:         Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:31:29 +1100
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              Paul Johnson <paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU>
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You can customize the dates that daylight savings start and finish to
cope with changes from the standard dates used in the LX. I posted
about this a few months ago and mistakenly said timezone.dat is in
c:\_dat . Its not ! I just got used to the custom  one being there so
long I forgot about the default one. Nathalie Bugeaud pointed out she
couldn't find it in c:\_dat . I was supposed to send a correction to
the list but you know, theres naps to be had and clouds to watch, I
lapsed. But I can report that the modified timezone.dat functioned
correctly on Sunday when daylight saving came for the BUILT IN cities.
I was asked if I wanted the times changed.  However for locations
ADDED to the database the time remained the same. Its got me stumped.
If I pressed enter on the "offending" location then went down to the
daylight saving box, didn't make any changes, then exited, a dialog
box popped up, I say ok to any changes, then the time at that location
is corrected. Hmmm.

Here is the standard timezone.dat that lives in d:\_sys :

European
3:25-31 6 1:00
9:24-30 6 0:00
Northern
4:1-7    6 1:00
10:25-31 6 0:00
Southern
3:1-7    6 0:00
10:25-31 6 1:00

And here is the customised timezone.dat that lives in c:\_dat on my LX.
There is an extra daylight saving category (Australia) and the dates
for European daylight saving have been changed a little (maybe someone
in Europe can confirm if its correct) :

European
3:25-31 6 1:00
10:25-31 6 0:00
Northern
4:1-7 6 1:00
10:25-31 6 0:00
Southern
3:1-7 6 0:00
10:25-31 6 1:00
Australia
3:25-31 6 0:00
8:25-31 6 1:00

I've never seen an explanation of the timezone.dat format so heres my
best guess. For the Australia part of it:

Australia
3:25-31 6 0:00
10:25-31 6 1:00

The first line is the daylight saving category

The 2nd line is the 3rd month, then the last seven days of the month
(daylight savings changes seem to be made on the last Sunday in a
month), I'm not sure what the 6 is for but I guess its the 6th day of
the week so that changes happen after midnight Saturday (I think the
official times are normally 1am or 3am or so on the Sunday). Then the
time difference in hours:minutes.

The 3rd line is the 10th month, then the last seven days of the month
(daylight savings changes seem to be made on the last Sunday in a
month), again I'm not sure what the 6 is for but I guess its the 6th
day of the week so that changes happen after midnight Saturday (I
think the official times are normally 1am or 3am or so on the
Sunday). Then the time difference in hours:minutes. In this case add
an hour to the time.

Daylight saving adjustments don't take place until you use World Time
on/after the due dates. A dialog box pops up and you need to confirm
the change.

Timezone.dat lives in d:\sys (not c:\_dat like I said before). Make a
backup of your current c:\_dat\timezone.dat if you already use one, you
will need this next year . I've put a reminder in my Todos .Copy
d:\_sys\timezone.dat to c:\_dat  Then edit c:\_dat\timezone.dat to what
you want. You can add extra daylight savings categories if you need
them to cope with changes from the standard. If you really screw it
up, you can delete it. Next time you start World Time it will use the
default d:\_sys\timezone.dat .

Or if you can be bothered get really fancy, use the new timezone.dat
above. Then in World Time make the necessary changes to switch off
daylght saving in cities in states that never have daylight saving
(QLD, WA & NT).

To make things easier for those who may not be familiar with states
and their cities, heres a start.

 City            State

 Adelaide        SA         Alice Springs   NT
 Brisbane        QLD
 Broken Hill     NSW but might follow SA times.
 Canberra        ACT
 Cocos Is.       I think its a dependency. I suppose they don't adopt
                 daylight saving.
 Darwin          NT
 Govt. House, Lord Howe Is. NSW? I guess they don't adopt
                 daylight saving.

 Hobart          TAS
 Kingston, Norfolk Is. NSW? I think they don't adopt
                 daylight saving.
 Melbourne       VIC
 Perth           WA
 Sydney          NSW

Bye, Paul Johnson.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:32:57 EDT
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 I struggling with the question how to use both parallel the HPLX GDB
database and one of the WIN Database like Excel or Access. I would like to
use both (GDB and a win based one ) because of convinience. Does anybody have
a recommendation how to handle it ?
- converting from GDB to XLS or MDB
_ any other option , will say any other database which runs well on Windows
machine and is compatible to WIN Database.

Any further idea which brings me forward will be appreciated. Thank you !!

regards, Michael

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Just had a positive experience with repairing my data cable that is
used to connect the DC-12 (also the DC-23) to my phone.  The small
plastic housing that connects to the bottom of my phone had two small
tabs break off.  The first tab wasn't too critical, but the second one
which broke was essential to the connection.  I had been resorting to
rubber bands to hold the connector on!

Anyway, I visited my local cell phone store, and asked the clerk if
he had any ideas.  Maybe a new cable?  Just a similar housing?  Well,
he said they no longer sell this cable (my 2-1/2 year old phone is
obsolete).  But he had some of these housings in the back.  He brought
one out and just gave it too me.  (These housings are used to connect
all kinds of accessories to the phone, not just the data card).

With just minor surgery, I was able to split apart the new housing
along the seam.  Ditto, the old broken one.  I drilled a hole for the
cable to pass through (the new housing didn't use a cable for whatever
it's original purpose was).  Just threw out the small circuit board
from the new housing.  Installed the data cable and its small circuit
board in the new, modified housing.  Used some super-glue to re-seal
the two halves... voila!  New data cable in perfect condition.  Low
cost, too.  Your cost may vary, depending on the cooperation level of
your local sales clerk.

At the store, he showed me the new Ericsson CH-888 phone (maybe it
was CF?).  Anyone on the list using this phone, I would like to talk
to them offlist.  Apparently this phone is one of the new breed with
a built-in serial port modem, therefore not requiring an external
interface card.

-Chris Lott


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Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc.
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Date:         Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:12:01 +0900
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              Robert Kawaratani <rkk@MOTOMI.NET>
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>
> The data on the CF dard is put into different directories.
> However, there is now a problem when I tried to use Filer to
> delete the data in the CF card after transfer. When I tried to
> delete the directories, there was an error message saying that
> some files in the directory are read-only. When I open the
> directory, no file is visible from Filer. I use
> the attrib command to turn off "read-only", "hidden", and
> "archive" of all files in that directory, and I got a new file
> back containing the names of all the files formerly in the
> directory. But I was able to delete the directory after
> deleting that file. This happens to all dirctories being backed
> up, but if a directory contains more than one subdirectory, it
> seems that only the first subdirectory is changed. Very
> strange.
>

By writing to the CF on a Mac you're adding various files used by the MacOS
including the (infamous) resource fork. So you need to follow the procedure
that you mentioned if you want to delete the directory or subdirectory. As
far as I can tell, the presence of those files doesn't affect the operation
of the HP200lx other than taking up space and requiring removal if you want
to delete a directory.

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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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Hmm, one of the hooks on my handsfree adapter for my GH388 has lost the
'spring' and I do have a few spare adapters for other things.  I might try
surgery if it really gives up.  meanwhile I'll do as folk do for the LX
lock, put a bit of rubber behind it.  They are not very well thought out
connectors, however it is also annoying that every new model tends to need
different parts.

William D.Ll.Brown

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Compatibility with a WIN database is a vague concept that really begs to know
what your requirements are.

If all you need are simple lists, you can always use 123 on the LX and the
uploaded WK1 file can be read by Excel.

If you need a more featured database like the GDB, you can always upload the GDB
to your Win machine and run GDBDUMP/GDBLOAD there to convert the file to/from a
CSV (comma separated variables) format which is easily imported by most database
programs.  I suggest running the conversion on the Win machine only to improve
performance ... you can also run those programs (from the SUPER site) on the LX.

And there are a host of other database programs (PC-File, Paradox, DBase) whose
data is easily read or imported by other Win database programs.

Your solution really depends on you needs.  Personally, I try not to synch my
databases on the LX and my desktop because it adds a layer of uncertainty and
risk  for which I don't derive significant benefit.  But I can understand that
we each have different needs.

- Longden





Michael Berrier <Michberr01@AOL.COM> on 08/29/2000 04:32:57 AM

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Subject:  HPLX Database versus WIN Database



 I struggling with the question how to use both parallel the HPLX GDB
database and one of the WIN Database like Excel or Access. I would like to
use both (GDB and a win based one ) because of convinience. Does anybody have
a recommendation how to handle it ?
- converting from GDB to XLS or MDB
_ any other option , will say any other database which runs well on Windows
machine and is compatible to WIN Database.

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In-Reply-To:  <7CFAB8130F5FD411A14500D0B77FB6D21C6422@ukz834.ggr.co.uk> from
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> Hmm, one of the hooks on my handsfree adapter for my GH388 has lost the
> 'spring' and I do have a few spare adapters for other things.  I might try
> surgery if it really gives up.  meanwhile I'll do as folk do for the LX
> lock, put a bit of rubber behind it.  They are not very well thought out
> connectors, however it is also annoying that every new model tends to need
> different parts.
>
> William D.Ll.Brown

I, too, have been put off at the thought of a phone upgrade because of
the different accessories.  However, the clerk told me that of late,
Ericsson, at least, is trying to standardize on a single family of
accessories.  If true, this is a promising development.  I might spring
for a new phone and set of accessories if

(a) the accessories would be "good" for the next few years as phones
    continue to evolve, and

(b) the data connection is indeed as simple as a serial port modem.

Still awaiting verification on both these matters.

-Chris

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Jeff,

You can try a package called FoneSync, which comes with a cable and a software
CD to sync your phone to your PC. I bought it at simplywireless.com for about
$65. I don't know if they still carry it though.

Good luck.

Ron

>Date:    Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:30:03 -0700
>From:    Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
>Subject: OT: Qualcomm 860 Data Cable
>
>Does anyone know of a source for Qualcomm 860 data cables that is less than
>$80?
>
>Jeff
>
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Date:         Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:13:34 -0400
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              "Rodger N. Bird II" <rbird2@MICH.COM>
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DOS Software For Sale!

Packages have been opened (unless noted otherwise) and most are complete
with box. I have listed which packages have manuals and which ones do not
have manuals. I have listed the original disk format: 5 =BC", 3 =BD" or b=
oth. I
can copy the original disk to the other disk format, if needed. (3 =BD" t=
o 5
=BC", 5 =BC" to 3 =BD") The prices listed below include shipping costs wi=
thin the
continental United States.

Please email me direct if you are interested in any of the below items.
Do not reply to this message.

My email address is: rbird2@mich.com

HiJack Version 2.1 graphics conversion and screen capture software by Ins=
et
Systems. Includes 3 =BD" and 5 =BC" floppy discs and manuals. $15.00

Microsoft Works Version 2.0 Word processor with spelling checker and
thesaurus, Database with reporting, Spreadsheet with business graphics, a=
nd
Electronics Communications. Includes 3 =BD" floppy discs and manuals. $15=
.00

Grammatik 5 grammar and spelling checker. Includes 3 =BD" floppy discs an=
d
manuals. $10.00

Quicken for Windows CD-ROM version 4. Still in shrink wrap. Includes CD-R=
OM
disc and manual. $15.00

Sidekick Version 2.0 Includes 3 =BD" floppy discs and manuals. $15.00

Andrew Tobias Managing your Money Version 6.0 Includes 3 =BD" floppy disc=
s and
manuals. $10.00

Publisher's Choice "The 10 Best"(PC Writer, Financial Genius, Data
Commander, Schedule Manager, QuickCalc, The Great Communicator, Max.Mail,
The Business Letter, Instant Publisher, Designer on a disk) and manual.
(5 =BC and 3 =BD" disks).  $10.00

Brown Bag Software Word Processor includes spell checker with manual.
(5 =BC and 3 =BD" disks).  $10.00

Sequential Software Icon Utilities 3.01 Label Maker that can use Print Sh=
op
graphics if desired.
(3 =BD" disk). $10.00

Springboard Certificate Maker with manual.
(5 =BC" disks). $10.00

On Time Lifetime Appointment Calendar/Planner with manual.
(5 =BC and 3 =BD" disks). $10.00


Easy Working from Spinnaker-The Writer Word Processor.
(5 =BC" disk). $10.00

Easy Working from Spinnaker-Personal Cash Manager.
(5 =BC" disk). $10.00

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(5 =BC" disk). $10.00

Easy Working from Spinnaker-The DOS Manager.
(5 =BC" disk). $10.00

Order ALL 4 Easy Working titles for $15.00.

Thank you,
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>> The data on the CF dard is put into different directories.
>> However, there is now a problem when I tried to use Filer to
>> delete the data in the CF card after transfer. When I tried to
>> delete the directories, there was an error message saying that
>> some files in the directory are read-only. When I open the
>> directory, no file is visible from Filer. I use
>> the attrib command to turn off "read-only", "hidden", and
>> "archive" of all files in that directory, and I got a new file
>> back containing the names of all the files formerly in the
>> directory.
>
> Possibly something that the mac creates for each directory?  Something
> like that happens when I use my pcmcia card in my windows laptop - the
> win machine always seems to create a "recycle bin" directory for the
> card which win98 sees as a DRIVE and I have to delete it.
>
I often move files between my old Mac Quadra 650, my ancient Toshiba 1200HB
laptop and my 200LX. I find that when a Mac works with a DOS diskette, it
creates a number of hidden directories and files on that diskette, such as
a Trash directory and a directory containing information about the last
state of the Mac's desktop. This may be what you are noticing on your CF
card. This can sometimes be handy for recovering files that you put in the
Mac's trash, then later decided you want back. If it bothers you, however,
I believe you can simply ATTRIB the files to a normal state, then delete
them.

Bruce in Toronto

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:40:22 -0400, Al Kind wrote:

> Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:17:57 -0500 (EST)
>
> I have just had some success with a Qualcomm 860 from Verizon(aka Bell
> Atlantic) & their data cable.

Sounds nice. I am curious did you ever get the 7110 and you Hp100lx to
work on your trip to England?

Last thing I heard from you was that you were going to get data enebled
the next day.

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>>win machine always seems to create a "recycle bin" directory for the
>>card which win98 sees as a DRIVE and I have to delete it.

in recycle bin properties you can turn off that rude behavior

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Another question for the collective wisdom of the list that I don't remember
seeing mentioned here before.
Is there a maximum size Type III drive that an HP 200 will recognize without
special software drivers?
I just purchased a Doubleslot device and will have the opportunity to pick
up a type III drive at the Shelby NC hamfest this weekend.  I know that
there is a limit to the size of PCMCIA or CF drive recognized  without
loading the "ACE" driver.  Is the limit the same and if so will the "ACE"
driver allow me to extend that limit with a type III drive?
Thanks for any comments,
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              Alan Creswell <al.creswell@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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              Modem
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A few weeks ago I picked up a spare Thinfax PCMCIA modem card; this is the
model without the built-in memory, just a fax modem card.  Unfortunately it
came without a cable (the price was right).  Since I already have a Thinfax
1414LXM 2 mb fax modem card, I figured the cable for it would fit the new
acquisition, and i could use that, since I purchased the second one as a
spare.  Sadly, the cable I have is slightly different, and will not fit the
"new" modem.  I emailed the EXP folks a couple weeks ago, but no response,
which I presume means they don't support it anymore.  The modem can be made
to dial when inserted in the 200lx using the 1414LXM software, so presumably
it will work, if only I had a cable for it.  Does anyone on the list know of
a source of a modem cable that would fit this unit, or does someone have
such a cable or even this modem/cable combination lying around that they'd
part with for a reasonable sum?  Or will this unit not really work with the
'200lx?

All Ears in Oregon...TIA,

Al Creswell

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Thank you for your answer.

Still optimistic...
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I experimented with te following:

DIR | FIND "Free" | INP

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Hi,

I am thinking of getting the Collins English Disctionary & Thesaurus from
Thaddeus for my trusty 200LX (if there are still available). Any idea if I can
add additional new words into the dictionary database?

Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Leong

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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 12:42:52 +0200
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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Subject:      Re: timezones in Australia
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hello Paul,

txs for the explanation. Just to ask a little thing:
In my timezone.dat there is an extra timezone for Tasmania.
It looks like this:

3:25-31 6 0:00
10:1-7 6 1:00

do they still have different DST in Tasmania?

The times for the european DST in your file is correct.

I wanted also to add a little trick (it is not new and not from me) but
it is good: If you want to change automatically your computer time in
the HP, it is possible with calling the timezone program on this day.
You can create a system makro that does this and call it as a returning
event in the appointments program. The HP200 could do this long before
Win 95 was born.

regards,
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anyone know if this will fit an hp800??

1.44 EXT FLOPPY FOR THNKPD 760 BLK W/CBL - $35.00
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From:         Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: OT:  Looking For Cable for EXP Thinfax 1414  Fax/Data
              PCMCIA,Modem
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Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:18:25 -0500 (EST)

Al:

   Take a look at

 http://www.expnet.com/product.nsf/Accessory

08h43m24s ago ...
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Alan Creswell wrote:

> A few weeks ago I picked up a spare Thinfax PCMCIA modem card...; this =
is the
> model without the built-in memory, just a fax modem card.  Unfortunately=
 it
> came without a cable...
*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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What does "INP" do?

- Longden





Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM> on 08/30/2000 12:34:17 AM

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I experimented with te following:

DIR | FIND "Free" | INP

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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:51:30 -0400
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              Jim Westley <jwestley@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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Does anyone know if Pocket Quicken Connect is still available, and where?
For a long time I synchronized using the HP connectivity pack with Quicken
version 4. Then I upgraded about a year ago to Quicken 99 and stopped
synch'ing. I really miss the capability to enter receipts, etc. on the fly,
and I really don't mind that it is just sends back account totals.

Thanks

Jim

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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:50:18 -0500
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I have been unable to find this commentary.
Does anyone have the link to it?
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: FreshGear commentary favors HP200LX over other PDAs


><<Jim Louderback of FreshGear has written a commentary at ZDTV favoring the
>HP200LX over other PDAs, at:->>
>
>Yes, Jim was a subscriber of Palmtop Paper some years back. I bumped into
>him at PC Expo in June and was interested to learn that we upgraded and
>repaired palmtops. I had him send in his broken palmtop and we fixed and
>upgraded it about a month ago.  I also put on Super Software Carousel and
>some other goodies including a CD Infobase.  He mentioned that they might
>invite me to talk on one of the ZDTV shows about our two "PDA" businesses,
>www.palmtoppaper.com, and Pocket PC magazine, www.pocketpcmag.com.
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Subject:      Re: OT:  Looking For Cable for EXP Thinfax 1414  Fax/Data
              PCMCIA,Modem
Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu

Thanks for the response; I took a look,  but the cable
they have is the 15 pin model that fits the 1414LXM that I
already have (plus several others)...there is a slight
design change in the cable connector for the model 1414LXM
as compared to the 1414. They list several models the
replacement cables will fit, however the model 1414 is not
listed.  I emailed the sales dept at EXP a couple weeks
ago regarding this, but have not received a response to
date.

It appears I may have gotten my money's worth with this
modem purchase!   ;>)   I suspect all these cables are
very proprietary, but does anyone know of another brand of
cable that would fit?

TIA,

Al Creswell

> Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:18:25 -0500 (EST)
>
> Al:
>
>    Take a look at
>
>  http://www.expnet.com/product.nsf/Accessory
>
> 08h43m24s ago ...
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Alan Creswell wrote:
>
> > A few weeks ago I picked up a spare Thinfax PCMCIA modem card...; this is the
> > model without the built-in memory, just a fax modem card.  Unfortunately it
> > came without a cable...
> *
> * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
> * Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**
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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:49:03 PDT
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Does anyone have an idea what would cause a double speed 32mb result
in a hourglass and the message "No File to Open" in phonebook.  I have
tried opening it from the Application Manager without success.  Other
applications seem to open okay.  The 2x drivers seem to load after reboot=
ing
using C: or D: drives.  Yet the manager shows about 3MB used =

with 12MB remaining.  I would be grateful for your help.  Sincerely Bob L=
ove

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<<I have been unable to find this commentary.
Does anyone have the link to it?
Thanks>>

http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/freshgear/commentary/story/0,3679,4751,00.html

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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:14:13 EDT
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<<Does anyone know if Pocket Quicken Connect is still available, and where?>>

Jim:
I looked at my Pocket Quicken Connect Manual and found this reference:
Intuit Tech Support  tel 505 896 7339.  I have Ver.  2.2 for Windows but
there may be a later version.
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Thanks, Hal!

-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Goldstein <hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: FreshGear commentary favors HP200LX over other PDAs


><<I have been unable to find this commentary.
>Does anyone have the link to it?
>Thanks>>
>
>http://www.zdtv.com/zdtv/freshgear/commentary/story/0,3679,4751,00.html
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anyone know if this will fit an hp800??

1.44 EXT FLOPPY FOR THNKPD 760 BLK W/CBL - $35.00
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For those of you that are also using a Palm device, what browser are you
using on it in order to browse the web? I am working on a mobile set-up and
due to the form factor of the Palm V it may work easier than the LX and the
battery life may be a bit better. Thanks in advance!

Jeff

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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 11:51 AM
Subject: Pocket Quicken Connect


> Does anyone know if Pocket Quicken Connect is still available, and where?
> For a long time I synchronized using the HP connectivity pack with Quicken
> version 4. Then I upgraded about a year ago to Quicken 99 and stopped
> synch'ing. I really miss the capability to enter receipts, etc. on the
fly,
> and I really don't mind that it is just sends back account totals.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim
>
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>
Pocket Quicken is no longer supported and Pocket Quicken will not synch with
recent versions.  The only alternative is to use import.  Or you can enter
manually.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:43:02 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>
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From:         LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>
Subject:      Re: iMac/HP200 LX Connectivity
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F. Kaufman wrote:

> Possibly something that the mac creates for each directory?  Something
> like that happens when I use my pcmcia card in my windows laptop - the
> win machine always seems to create a "recycle bin" directory for the
> card which win98 sees as a DRIVE and I have to delete it.

Yes, I did get a Trash directory and a Desktop directory,
which are standard on the Mac.

I just downloaded WWW3 and Post3 with the Mac (HV keeps
returning a blank page no matter which URL I try), and
transferred it to the HP via the CF card reader. All OK, the
programs work perfectly.

So I am not going further. I might break something if I
investigate closely.

Ka Tai

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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:43:11 -0400
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              LEONG Ka Tai <leongkt@HKIPP.ORG>
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Bruce Martin wrote:

> I often move files between my old Mac Quadra 650, my ancient Toshiba =
1200HB
> laptop and my 200LX. I find that when a Mac works with a DOS diskette, =
it
> creates a number of hidden directories and files on that diskette, such =
as
> a Trash directory and a directory containing information about the last
> state of the Mac's desktop. This may be what you are noticing on your =
CF
> card. This can sometimes be handy for recovering files that you put in =
the
> Mac's trash, then later decided you want back. If it bothers you, =
however,
> I believe you can simply ATTRIB the files to a normal state, then =
delete
> them.

Thanks for yours response. It is nice to find that my
experience is not unique.

Please see my message to F. Kaufman.

Ka Tai

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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:36:53 -0400
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Subject:      Re: ? For LX Users Who Also Use A Palm
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:35:58 -0400 Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> writes:
> For those of you that are also using a Palm device, what browser are
you
> using on it in order to browse the web? I am working on a mobile
set-up and
> due to the form factor of the Palm V it may work easier than the LX and
the
> battery life may be a bit better. Thanks in advance!

The battery life of the Palm would be better than the LX *only* if you
use one
of the offline readers, such as Avantgo, otherwise battery life for a
live connection
on a Palm is just horrible (compared to the lx), depending on the modem's
draw and source of power (some are self-powered).  BTW, the Palm Vx has
the
worst battery life of all the Palms, even worst than the Palm IIIc (the
Palm V is
an older model with better battery life and less memory, if you can still
find it).

Avantgo is extremely neat for offline reading, but I have been trying
iSilo, and it
has the best display of web pages I have seen (I would call it stunning
sometimes),
though it is not as easy to use.  Avantgo is free, iSilo is shareware.
Personally
I prefer browsing the web with my Palm and an offline reader than with my
desktop,
if I know in advance what I want to see.

There are other solutions I have not tried, but those two are the most
popular ones,
I believe.

HTH,

Domingo

BTW: aside from the above and etext reading, the LX is better than the
Palm for just
about everything else.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 20:22:29 -0500
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              Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM>
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 ddvteach@juno.com wrote:

> There are other solutions I have not tried, but those two are the most
> popular ones,

Thanks Domingo! I am going to be using the Qualcomm software for browsing
and the modem is provided by the phone. My phone has an optional Palm
cable and organizer that makes a nice set-up and I will be ordering it
tomorrow.

Jeff

             --  Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF  --
             --  Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    --
             --   B'ham, AL USA  jeffj@notachance.com     --
             - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! -
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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:49:13 -0700
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              Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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From:         Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Xcopy
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Mark Shields wrote:
>
>xcopy *.* a:\backup /s

If this is something you do regularly, you might want to also use the
'/m' switch, which copies only files that have their archive attribute
set, turning it off while it does it. (Anytime an application updates
a file it sets the archive attribute.) This way, you'll copy only
those files that have changed since your last update.

--
Curtis Cameron
who became a father again on August 23. See
http://members.aol.com/ScottBCameron

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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 20:13:28 -0700
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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The "gotcha" on the '/m' switch is that if files get deleted from the backup
(for whatever reason), xcopy won't know to copy the original anymore ..... not a
frequent or usual situation, but it does happen.  Balance that caution against
getting a much faster backup when using '/m'.

Congrats to Curtis (and Mrs, of course).  Aug 23 is also my wife's birthday.
Small world, small computers, small packages <g>.

- Longden




Curtis Cameron <curtc@AIRMAIL.NET> on 08/30/2000 09:49:13 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>; Please respond
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Subject:  Re: Xcopy



>xcopy *.* a:\backup /s

If this is something you do regularly, you might want to also use the
'/m' switch, which copies only files that have their archive attribute
set, turning it off while it does it. (Anytime an application updates
a file it sets the archive attribute.) This way, you'll copy only
those files that have changed since your last update.

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Date:         Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:26:46 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Phil Drummond <drummond@NET1.NET>
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From:         Phil Drummond <drummond@NET1.NET>
Subject:      Re: Looking For Cable for EXP Thinfax 1414  Fax/Data PCMCIAModem

I have one of these cards... nice product!

Hope you have luck finding that cable (did Al Kind's link help?)

I wish someone made a card like that in Compact Flash form factor.

Phil

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 06:37:02 +0200
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      sending FAXes via HPLX and S35i
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Hi friends,

dows anyone here know how to send faxes using the HPLX in connection
with the Siemens S35i mobile phone?

It doesn't work via IR at all, that's for sure, because we don't have a
fax program available that speaks IrDA.

I use QFax with the init string AT&F&C1&D2 (whatever that means - it
was the default setting in QFax.)

So I tried to use my data cable and QFax. QFax reports:

--------- Screen shot with comments ---------

Modem reset... FAILED  (I think due to false baud rate, because:)
Reset again... OK      (so initialization seems to be ok, init string s.a.)
Initialization OK      (good! :-) )
Calss 1 fax/modem detected OK
Modem set to Class 1 fax mode

Dialing 0721151306690  (my unified messaging fax number)
Unknown error 4. Hang Up.   (grrrrrrr!)
Modem hangs up

---------------------------------------------

Is there another init string that I have to use?
According to the S35's manual, it supports calss 1 (and only class 1)
fax, so the setting of qfax is ok.

TNX in advance
daniel

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home page:             http://www.daniel-hertrich.de
mobile phone:                     +49 (0)177 7955549
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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 06:37:04 +0200
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              Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
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From:         Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE>
Subject:      sending faxes via HPLX and S35i (2)
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Hi again,

sorry folks - I've solved my problem. I only had to enable the sending
of faxes in the phone's menu.
Sometimes the solution to a problem is so near that one can't see it.
;-)

Now I'm able to send faxes on the road with my LX! Great! :-)

One uestion remains:
Is it possible to attach a scaned signature (GIF file or similar) to a
fax with some software? I know that BGFax2 can do this, but I had big
difficulties to setup BGFax2. Is there another software that is able to
do this?

TNX again
daniel


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Celia & Daniel Hertrich            d.hertrich@gmx.de
home page:             http://www.daniel-hertrich.de
mobile phone:                     +49 (0)177 7955549
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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 07:53:18 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Hans Peter Staber <hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pocket Quicken Connect
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Jim,

> Does anyone know if Pocket Quicken Connect is still available, and =
where?
> For a long time I synchronized using the HP connectivity pack with =
Quicken
> version 4. Then I upgraded about a year ago to Quicken 99 and stopped
> synch'ing. I really miss the capability to enter receipts, etc. on the =
fly,
> and I really don't mind that it is just sends back account totals.

I think the possibility to sync ended after/around version 4.5

I have Quicken for Win v 4.5 and sync works.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 07:58:19 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: sending faxes via HPLX and S35i (2)
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Daniel,

> Now I'm able to send faxes on the road with my LX! Great! :-)

Does you QFax application fax Umlaute?

I use BGFAX and WordPerfect for sending faxes on the road. At home
BGFAX running on a hp200lx acts as a fax server reliable for several
years now.

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 08:02:06 +0200
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." <h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: sending faxes via HPLX and S35i (2)
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Danie,

> sorry folks - I've solved my problem. I only had to enable the sending
> of faxes in the phone's menu.

Is this a bug or a feature?

Kind regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 03:55:42 -0400
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              Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
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From:         Harry Wellner <hwellner@MAIL.COM>
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"An possible solution" - email my for more info.

Batch calling INP.COM  - source included at the end
                         creates by default the TEMP.BAT
                         (see source below)
                         Email my at hwellner@mail.com
                         for the 3.5 Kb COM-file if
                         required.

Result: DOS var "freebytes" containing the value

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
@ECHO OFF
SET freebytes=0
DIR | FIND "free" | INP CALL $free.BAT>NUL
ECHO SET freebytes=%%1>$free.BAT
CALL TEMP.BAT
$free.BAT
REM :===== Report =====
ECHO %freebytes% bytes free
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

N INP.COM
E 144 "TEMP.BAT",0
A 100
MOV     DX,0144               ; file name
MOV     AX,3C00
MOV     CX,0
INT     21                    ; create file
PUSH    AX                    ; file handle in stack
MOV     CH,00
MOV     CL,080              ; length of command string
JCXZ    11F                   ; skip if no command line
DEC     CL                    ; drop first char (space)
POP     BX                    ; get file handle
PUSH    BX
MOV     AH,40
MOV     DX,082                ; command string offset
INT     21                    ; write to file
MOV     AH,0A
MOV     DX,0144
MOV     BYTE PTR 0144,50    ; max. length of 80 characters
INT     21                    ; input string
MOV     CH,00
MOV     CL,0145             ; length of string
POP     BX                    ; get file handle
PUSH    BX
MOV     AH,40
MOV     DX,0146               ; input string offset
INT     21                    ; write to file
POP     BX
MOV     AH,3E
INT     21                    ; close file
MOV     AX,4C00
INT     21                    ; exit to dos

R CX
4D
W
Q

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:05:11 -0400
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              steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET
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From:         Steve Carder <steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET>
Subject:      Re: Collins English Dictionary & Thesaurus
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> I am thinking of getting the Collins English Disctionary & Thesaurus =
from
> Thaddeus for my trusty 200LX (if there are still available). Any idea =
if I can
> add additional new words into the dictionary database?

I have that program and find it very useful.  I am not aware of any way
to add words, and I did actually read the manual <g>.

Steve Carder

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:03:55 -0700
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              Ray Simons <ray.simons@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Ray Simons <ray.simons@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pocket Quicken Connect
Comments: To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

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Fluff:
RAISE YOUR VOICE TO STOP FAMILY VIOLENCE!   PLEASE DISTRIBUTE!


On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 07:53:18 +0100 Hans Peter Staber
<hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM> writes:
> Jim,
>
>


Ray Simons
6263 Rockland Road
Lithonia, GA 30038-3431
Phone: 770-484-8919; 678-580-2540
Fax: 770-484-8919
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<DIV>On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 07:53:18 +0100 Hans Peter Staber=20
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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:32:41 -0400
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              Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
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From:         Larry Tachna <ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM>
Subject:      Re: Looking For Cable for EXP Thinfax 1414  Fax/Data PCMCIAModem
Comments: To: Phil Drummond <drummond@NET1.NET>
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I wonder why your emails come with 2 small files attached? any way to turn
that off?

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HPLX Mailing List mailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.EduOn Behalf Of
>>Phil Drummond
>>Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 12:27 AM
>>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject: Re: Looking For Cable for EXP Thinfax 1414 Fax/Data PCMCIAModem
>>
>>
>>I have one of these cards... nice product!
>>
>>Hope you have luck finding that cable (did Al Kind's link help?)
>>
>>I wish someone made a card like that in Compact Flash form factor.
>>
>>Phil
>>
>>

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 08:47:34 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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From:         Theodore Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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Daniel Hertrich <d.hertrich@GMX.DE> wrote:

> Is it possible to attach a scaned signature (GIF file or similar) to
> a fax with some software? I know that BGFax2 can do this, but I had
> big difficulties to setup BGFax2. Is there another software that is
> able to do this?

QFax will do this.  I use it to insert a header that consists of my
employer's logo, and also to insert my signature.  The files to be
inserted must be monochrome pcx format.  Place the following in your
fax where you wish to have the image inserted:

 ~<myfile.pcx>

The image will be left aligned at the location of the tag.

Ted

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:44:46 +0200
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From:         "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
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hello,

I have to travel to Paris from saturday to wednesday and would like to
connect to the internet there with my HP200. Does anybody know if there
is an ISP that I can use with a local phone call?
And is it possible to get access within this short time?

thanks,
Werner



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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:18:59 +0200
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From:         Etienne Lemaire <etienne.lemaire@PANDORA.BE>
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I sent youa web page with adresses, direct.
Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Etienne

Please use only stelem@attglobal.net
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From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" <furlan@GMX.NET>
To: <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Sent: jeudi 31 ao{t 2000 16:44
Subject: Free ISP in France?


> hello,
>
> I have to travel to Paris from saturday to wednesday and would like to
> connect to the internet there with my HP200. Does anybody know if there
> is an ISP that I can use with a local phone call?
> And is it possible to get access within this short time?
>
> thanks,
> Werner
>
>
>
> Thought for the day:
>     Advertising (n): the science of arresting the human
>     intelligence for long enough to get money from it.
>            -- Stephen Leacock.
>
> --
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> SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at
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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:06:14 -0400
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              Jim Westley <jwestley@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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From:         Jim Westley <jwestley@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fw: Pocket Quicken Connect
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>I called that number and it has been disconnected.


Jim


> ><<Does anyone know if Pocket Quicken Connect is still available, and
>where?>>
> >
> >Jim:
> >I looked at my Pocket Quicken Connect Manual and found this reference:
> >Intuit Tech Support  tel 505 896 7339.  I have Ver.  2.2 for Windows but
> >there may be a later version.
> >Bill
> >
> >

Jim

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:16:23 -0400
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              Jim Westley <jwestley@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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From:         Jim Westley <jwestley@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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I believe that what you say is true for full synchronization, i.e. bringing
transactions both ways. From version 5 on, I thought that Pocket Quicken
Connect allowed a one-way synchronization. In other words, all the
transactions entered in the 200 would be added to the desktop, but only
account balances would be updated on the 200. Not nearly as useful, but
still helpful. I believe that is how all versions of Pocket Quicken (Palm,
etc.) have worked since then.

I should just revert to Quicken version 4, but it won't carry mortgages
past the year 2027, so a 30 year mortgage with a start date after 1997
isn't correct. I think there are some other y2k issues as well, but if I
remember right, they could be worked around pretty easily.

Jim


>I think the possibility to sync ended after/around version 4.5
>
>I have Quicken for Win v 4.5 and sync works.
>
>HP Staber/Salzburg
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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:38:51 -0400
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              "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
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From:         "Striegel, Alan" <Striegel@PIOS.COM>
Subject:      Re: .pdb won't open
Comments: To: Bob Love <lovebob@USA.NET>
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The same thing has happened to me when the phonebook file got corrupted.
Try replacing the file with a copy from your backups before the trouble
started.

If you cannot find a good copy to restore, you may have to try some tools to
repair the file.

First, it can't hurt to have a look at the file with Curtis Cameron's
DBCHECK program (http://members.aol.com/FreeWhL44/dbcheck.zip) and see if it
reports problems.  Then you may have some luck with Garlic
(http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/garlic.zip).

Good luck.
Alan
>From: Bob Love mailto:lovebob@USA.NET
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 12:49 PM
>
>Does anyone have an idea what would cause a double speed 32mb result
>in a hourglass and the message "No File to Open" in phonebook.  I have
>tried opening it from the Application Manager without success.

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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 00:04:43 +0430
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              Behnam Molavi <molavi20@CT-NET.NET>
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Hi everybody
What will happen if I use an unregulated power supply?Will this damage =
my 200LX?And if I use an adapter with positive polarity,will the whole =
system burn out or just the onboard power supply?

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:18:05 -0400
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 On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:35:58 -0400 Jeff <jeffj@NOTACHANCE.COM> writes:
> For those of you that are also using a Palm device, what browser  are
you
> using on it in order to browse the web? I am working on a mobile set-up
and
> due to the form factor of the Palm V it may work easier than the LX and
the
> battery life may be a bit better. Thanks in advance!

Jeff, if you haven't already, try the following link (the information is
a bit
outdated, though):

http://www.palmgear.com/faq/faq.cfm?sid=71253920000709010742&faqID=24&cat
ID=3


HTH

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:10:57 -0400
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              Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Mark Shields <beamsplitter@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: unregulated power supply

An unregulated power supply will work--the internals are designed
to protect the computer by adjusting for a wide range of voltages.
I've used both my 100LX and my 200LX with such a supply, and they
still work! However, unregulated supplies tend to give voltages
that are much too high. This will cause the onboard electronics to
get hot. Heat is the great enemy of computer innards. So I decided
to completely avoid an external power supply because I want my
machines to last. I always use batteries--1600mAH nickel metal
hydrides on a weekly cycle, and Ray-O-Vac Renewal alkalines to fill
in when the NiMH's don't quite make it (like today!). Renewals
don't self-discharge, which means they will stand by for me
indefinitely. They also don't like to be deeply discharged--ruins
them quickly (voice of experience  :-(  ). But using them the way I
do they seldom get discharged very far. They will be in the
computer until tomorrow night, when I will install my other set of
NiMH, which have been charging for a week in a slow charger (old
Radio Shack NiCd unit). Then will then get recharged in a Renewal
Power Station (this is fast) and returned to my briefcase.

As for using a positive tip plug on a power supply, don't risk it.
Use a meter and determine polarity, or find someone to do it for
you. Cheap insurance.  :-)

Mark Shields
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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:07:17 -0300
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              Fabiano <fabiano.teraoka@UOL.COM.BR>
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Hi everybody!


How can I make a program that print through the infrared port ? I use a HP
82240B infrared thermal printer and C.

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Date:         Fri, 1 Sep 2000 01:01:33 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl <Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE>
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Version 1.8  -Norwegian characters added.
(01-SEP-00)  -Support of Ericsson I888 using the /A switch
              for downloading SMS from the phone.
             -eXcell gateway number updated in PDU.SCR.
             -PDU.SCR bug fixed (download of send/unsend SMS).

Download from:

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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:23:13 -0700
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From:         "francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com" <francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: infrared
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There is a program on Super written by HP for the 95lx to
work with the h2240B
<http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl/?dbname=Redir_Only&URL=ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/95LX/irprtsc.zip>

IIRC the source code is included. Should be a starting point
for working with the 200lx
Fabiano wrote:
>
> Hi everybody!
>
> How can I make a program that print through the infrared port ? I use a HP
> 82240B infrared thermal printer and C.
>
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