22313  1JUL93-1245 M4D/4P/4/III/I
     RE: An Adrift Model 4 (Re: Msg 22304)
     From: CHEESEMAN    To: KA5S

Thanks, Cortland!

Kent

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22314  1JUL93-1910 General Information
     RE: QuickBASIC (Re: Msg 22308)
     From: STANB        To: DAIRYLADY

DAIRYLADY,

No, I haven't really used QBASIC yet.  However, I'm in the process of typing
in Dunnington's "BONNY.BAS" from the latest PCM.  I'm anxious to see how it
works and I dragged out Bardens'book that he refers to (I think maybe he
meant to reference Chapter 21 rather than 12).  Anyway, I've been using a
plain old editor to type in the program.  Maybe I should learn to use QBASIC
for that, though.  What do think?  Are there advantages to using the QBASIC
editor for that?

Stan


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22315  1JUL93-2303 General Information
     RE: QuickBASIC (Re: Msg 22314)
     From: GREGL        To: STANB

If you are referring to the QBASIC editor versus the GW-BASIC editor,
QBASIC is much better. Some of the advantages I like is that QBASIC
prechecks the code as you enter it so you get alerted to some errors
as you type -- mostly these are syntax errors. Plus you can do search
and replace in QBASIC and use the clipboard for repetitive or semi-repetitive
code. The one aspect I don't like about QBASIC (or any of Microsoft's
editors for that matter) is that HOME puts the cursor on the first character
of a line instead of the first column. Some people like it, but it drives
me nuts.

        -- Greg

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22316  2JUL93-0604 General Information
     The Sale
     From: KA5S         To: ALL


What is a company?  Is it a cut-throat, cut-price, work-em-til-they-drop
outfit? Is it a collection of competing profit centers? An assembly of
teams working to build the best they can?

It is people. Without people, it is just a telephone list, paper, cold and
white. It is the people who do, who plan, who scrounge, who sweat, and who
bring things into being that would not have been but for their efforts.

People don't always mesh. There is office politics. There is rivalry.
There is the inevitable borrowing of tools, resources and equipment.  It
becomes, in the end, a community, and there begins to be a sense that
these people, some you may not like, some you call friends; these people
can be relied upon, can be trusted.  And when you are doing what you need
to do, when you are making things happen, it is a good place to be.

So when the inevitable happens, when a business downturn brings hard
times, when the organization shrinks, it hurts.  Each name is a loss.  And
this is special.  This is no ordinary layoff.  When this is done, there
will be little left of the enterprise that brought America the TRS-80, the
CoCo, the Model 100, 1000, 2000; the 2500's, 3000's, and 4000's.  When this
is done, the engineers and designers will go away, each to a different
place, and a different family will walk the halls, burn lights late into
the night and struggle to make the impossible happen.

But for a while, we were there.




Cortland E. Richmond


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22317  3JUL93-0016 General Information
     RE: Why? (Re: Msg 22300)
     From: LADD         To: CHEESEMAN

I can't speak for anyone else but I can't find a meesage 22257.  When I tried
to read it, I go to 22258 instead.  Is it posted private?

Ladd

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22318  3JUL93-1926 General Information
     RE: Why? (Re: Msg 22317)
     From: GREGL        To: LADD

I found it just fine. Make sure you haven't deselected the M4D... topic.

        -- Greg

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22319  3JUL93-2053 General Information
     RE: QuickBASIC (Re: Msg 22312)
     From: DAIRYLADY    To: GREGL

Hi, Greg!

   Boy, you would ask that! It's hard to remember specifically, because I
found it accidentally while chasing down my typos. As I recall, I still had
some error in typing that made the trails of all the bombs and gunshots
remain on the screen. Certain shots, that should have been scores reflected
on the control panel, didn't register any change in score at all. Line by
line comparison at that point made me wonder if the % should have been
included, so I tried it with them. Then those shots did register scores (I
just let the game run a few times without shooting, then a few times with
shooting). So, I guess they needed to be there. Then I continued with
finding my other typos until I located them all, and did away with the
trails on the screen. I think it would have been hard to spot without those
trails, though.

                                            Sue.






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22320  3JUL93-2333 General Information
     RE: QuickBASIC (Re: Msg 22314)
     From: DAIRYLADY    To: STANB

Stan,

   If the QBASIC editor is like the QuickBASIC editor, then yes, you should.
It has automatic editing and formatting features that make it very, very
easy. You will eliminate about half your typos (you do make them, don't you
<G>) ?) as soon as you press <Enter>, because a dialog box pops up and tells
you what was *expected,* of all things! And if you were indented one tab
stop, for instance, the cursor returns to that same tab stop on the next
line. If you want to go back one tab stop, press Backspace once. Then, there
are several other debugging features, several of which I haven't really
learned to make good use of yet. Anyway, it'll spoil you fast.

   I noticed the BONNY.BAS program, too. And I also got out Barden's book
and went to Chap. 21. The only reason I haven't started typing is the flu,
which has kept me pretty much in bed since Thursday, and my fingers feel
like wood. But I will start on it in a day or two, I'm sure. I have a little
worry that it won't work here, though, because Laura Bole used a similar
technique in TRAP.BAS, and it locked up my computer until I changed the code
to circumvent the routine altogether. It worked before VGA, I must admit,
but not after. (Another bug in the GW-BASIC Enhanced Screen Modes? - I hope
not). So let me know your results.

                                            Sue.


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22321  3JUL93-2333 General Information
     RE: QuickBASIC (Re: Msg 22314)
     From: DAIRYLADY    To: STANB

Stan,

   Well, I typed it. It ran without error the very first time. But...it ran
too fast! It was a simple matter to slow down the surf sounds by adding a
zero to 500 and 1000 to make 5000 and 10000 respectively, but I don't know
how to slow the song down yet. Any thoughts?

                                            Sue.


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22322  4JUL93-1742 General Information
     RE: QuickBASIC (Re: Msg 22321)
     From: DAIRYLADY    To: STANB

Hi again, Stan,

   Well, I figured it out. Every fourth figure in the data lines is a number
for the duration of the tone. I ended up multiplying every one by 40 to slow
it down enough to follow the lyric lines a la Mitch Miller (remember him?).
Then I also lengthened the surf sounds again, from 500 to 20000 and from
1000 to 40000. Now it's OK on my computer, which has a math coprocessor.

   BTW, the changing of "every one" was easy because the QuickBASIC editor
has a Find...(and Replace) feature in the Search menu.

   I'm feeling better today. Still weak, but no longer *sick,* thank
heavens. That flu is awful.
                                            Sue.


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22323  5JUL93-1058 General Information
     RE: QuickBASIC (Re: Msg 22321)
     From: STANB        To: DAIRYLADY

Sue,

Yes, I noticed too that the song ran awfully fast.  I haven't tried yet to
slow it down.  Instead, I spent some time trying to provide a graceful exit.
I did a number of things to that end, but I think the key was to repeat the
last data line.  Otherwise, the surf sound continued without end and I had to
reboot to stop it!

Stan


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22324  5JUL93-1254 General Information
     RE: Why? (Re: Msg 22317)
     From: CHEESEMAN    To: LADD

Let me restate in light of present conditions. I was posting for an off-line
friend who had bought an old Mod 4 (incompatible with my Apple IIGS) at an
auction for $30. It had no documentation, no DOS and no applications. Since
my original message, DOS and applications, including Deskmate have been found.
However, a copy of the machine's manual still eludes her and her family. Also,
formatting can't be done.

Kent

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22325  6JUL93-2137 T1000/1200/3000
     High Density Floppy for T1000SL
     From: WESF         To: ALL

I have a Tandy 1000SL.  Does anyone know if this computer's built-in floppy
controller will support high density 5 1/4 or 3 1/2?  I would appreciate
any help that could be given.

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22326  6JUL93-2340 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: High Density Floppy for T1000SL (Re: Msg 22325)
     From: GREGL        To: WESF

The built-in floppy controller doesn't support high-density drives, but
you can get a secondary controller that does from DCS Industries and probably
several others.

        -- Greg

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22327  7JUL93-0022 T1000/1200/3000
     A Jukebox for Games
     From: DAIRYLADY    To: GREGL

>       `{Greg,

   Hi! I typed JUKEBOX.BAS from the June issue. The article refers to
Listing 2 being an example of the GAMES.SEQ file, from which the program
gets information to run the games. I haven't located Listing 2 in the
magazine, and I think it must have been left out. Could you show me an
example file so I'll know what must be included and the format? Thanks for
your help.

                                            Sue.


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22328  7JUL93-0804 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: A Jukebox for Games (Re: Msg 22327)
     From: FOMBY        To: DAIRYLADY

        Hi, Sue -- 'scuse me for jumping in here! Yes, unfortunately
 GAMES.SEQ *was* inadvertently left out of the June issue's "Jukebox"
 feature. You'll find a correction notice, with the file reprinted in full,
 at the end of "Letters to PCM" in the August issue.
        Sorry for the inconvenience. )-;                   ----- Sue

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22329  7JUL93-2137 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386/486 Motherboard (Re: Msg 22311)
     From: STSTONE      To: GREGL

My wife swears we had a third child, but it wandered into my "corner".  I
briefly thought I saw ome papers wriggle late one night last winter, but.....

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22330  7JUL93-2325 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: A Jukebox for Games (Re: Msg 22327)
     From: GREGL        To: DAIRYLADY

Yup, I goofed and left Listing 2 sitting on the hard drive. A correction
with that listing will be in the August issue, and I'll
put a copy in your mailbox tomorrow.

        -- Greg

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22331 10JUL93-2043 T1000/1200/3000
     DOS UP-GRADE
     From: TDTOMMY      To: ALL

I have a Tandy 1000 RL with hard drive. My current DOS is 3.2 . Can anyone tell
me if I can up-grade to another DOS level?
Thanks for your help.
Tom Dean, Wisconsin  7/10/93  7:42 cst

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22332 10JUL93-2204 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: DOS UP-GRADE (Re: Msg 22331)
     From: WALTBOYD     To: TDTOMMY

Tom,

    I have a 1000 RLX and run it with DOS 5 loaded high to free up
additional conventional RAM... I don't run Deskmate. The version you
have that came with your RL probably will not function with a different DOS
version because DOS 5 won't boot from the ROM in your machine. You can buy
another Deskmate version which is compatible, however. There may be a way
around this but I've never investigated since I scrapped Deskmate in favor
of Geoworks.

Walt

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22333 11JUL93-2156 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: DOS UP-GRADE (Re: Msg 22331)
     From: GREGL        To: TDTOMMY

You can upgrade to DOS 5 or DOS 6 if so desired, but you must also upgrade
DeskMate at the same time (assuming you want to continue using DeskMate).

        -- Greg

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22336 15JUL93-0007 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000rlx (Re: Msg 22310)
     From: TONYI        To: GREGL

RE: Slow DR-DOS drive access.  This was fixed in (I think) a 4/92 update.
If you registered, it should have been sent to you...

I hade the same experience on some "frankenclone" XT, and the update was
*MUCH* faster on floppy access.

I stopped using it for other reasons though...

 Tony

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22337 15JUL93-0013 General Information
     RE: Why? (Re: Msg 22324)
     From: TONYI        To: CHEESEMAN

RE: The Model 4

I just got one with a printer for $25.  No software came with it.  Where did
you wind up finding the software?  I don't feel too bad, cuz the printer was
what I was primarily interested in <g>, but if I cound make the box work
with some software and a terminal emulator or something, it could actually
be useful.

 Tony

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22338 15JUL93-1918 General Information
     RE: Model 100 (Re: Msg 19374)
     From: BILLCONDIE   To: MISAL

 Gee, my apologies on this LATE LATE response!!!

 I hadn7t realized until one of you guys here pointed it out to me
 that the Model 100 was no longer a Model 100 when I connected a modem, but
instead became a Hayes-compatible!

 Thanx -- and apologies.

  BillC

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22339 15JUL93-1918 General Information
     RE: Model 100 (Re: Msg 19381)
     From: BILLCONDIE   To: RUNE (NR)

 See 22338. Belated thanx!

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22340 15JUL93-1921 General Information
     RE: Model 100 (Re: Msg 20362)
     From: BILLCONDIE   To: GLINN (NR)

..and apologies here too!!

 I finally got it working.

  BillC

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22341 21JUL93-1941 General Information
     RE: bulletin boards (Re: Msg 22065)
     From: PJLAFORGE    To: STANB

Sorry this took so long, haven't been here in a while. I'm in York.

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22342 26JUL93-0321 General Information
     Tandy for sale...
     From: JOKKER       To: ALL

Not sure if anyone is interested, but...

I have a Tandy 3830SL laptop for sale...

It is a 386DX/SL 25MHZ laptop, with a VGA screen, 2MB ram, 80  MB hard drive,
3.5" Floppy and built in trackball...

Am asking 1250$ and will pay shipping myself...

if you are interested, EMAIL "JOKKER"


Thanks...

ken

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22343 26JUL93-0322 General Information
     RE: Tandy for sale... (Re: Msg 22342)
     From: JOKKER       To: JOKKER (NR)

Oh...one more thing about it...it has a built in 2400 BPS modem...and comes
complete with battery recharger/ac adaptor, and vinyl carrying case.


Ken

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22344 27JUL93-0300 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: A Jukebox for Games (Re: Msg 22330)
     From: DAIRYLADY    To: GREGL

Greg,

   If you sent a copy of that file for JUKEBOX.BAS to my mailbox, it never
made it. I thought you might have changed your mind after reading Sue's post
to me, though.

   Well, the August issue came today, and when I got home from work, I paged
through it a couple of times, looking for the file - either I didn't
recognize it, or it isn't there. What page should I look on? Thanks.

                                            Sue.


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22345 27JUL93-0507 General Information
     RE: TRS - 80 (Re: Msg 21232)
     From: TERRYWELLS   To: MLD1

It's been a year since i asked about a dos for that old tandy..
Radio shed ordered it for me but took so long to get it me i gave up and trashed

r.

    Thanks for the help anyway...next time i'll try and reply alittle sooner.

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22346 29JUL93-0104 General Information
     Software search...
     From: ANDY126      To: ALL

I'm looking for away to alphabetize a list of 30-40 names in the middle of
a document.   Its part of my monthly reports at work, and all the other
reports are computer generated.  But I just cant seem to find a program
that will do this.   I'm using Deskmate 3.5 and Word Perfect 5.1.
Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Thanks.......Andy

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22347 29JUL93-0958 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: A Jukebox for Games (Re: Msg 22344)
     From: FOMBY        To: DAIRYLADY

        Oooooooops! Both Greg and I were mistaken about the correction
  being in the August issue, Sue -- that one had already gone to press
  by the time we learned we'd goofed on the original. The correction is
  in the *September* issue, at the very end of Letters to PCM.
        I'm sorry we've caused you inconvenience. )-:      ----- Sue

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22348 29JUL93-1715 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: A Jukebox for Games (Re: Msg 22344)
     From: GREGL        To: DAIRYLADY

I apologize for the delay, Sue. It'll be in your mailbox in just a few
seconds.

        -- Greg

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22349 29JUL93-1717 General Information
     RE: Software search... (Re: Msg 22346)
     From: GREGL        To: ANDY126

One way to do it is to mark the list of names, export them to an ASCII
file, and use the DOS SORT utility to sort them. Then import the sorted
list back into the document. I don't recall offhand if WordPerfect can sort
blocks or not.

        -- Greg KE4DPX

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22350 31JUL93-1309 General Information
     RE: Why? (Re: Msg 22337)
     From: KA5S         To: TONYI

You should be able to order LDOS 6.3 through your RS store. Give 'em
a try..

And you should be in the right area for other software right now!

Cortland

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22352 31JUL93-2325 General Information
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