21159  1JUL92-0151 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21158)
     From: KUDUT        To: JBUCATA

Well, then, I guess that's it :)

KZIN?  Hmm... wonder why...  oh well -- 'suppose there's something'...

--Ken

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21160  1JUL92-0153 T1000/1200/3000
     Deskmate SDK
     From: KUDUT        To: ALL

Does anyone have or know of the Deskmate Software Developer's Kit?

I've been wondering about it and, being a beginning programmer, I would
LOVE to be able to create things in Deskmate if, for no other reason, for
my own use (although I'd certainly distribute anything I thought of as
worthwhile :D )

--Ken

                        --type REPLY please ;D--

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21161  1JUL92-0157 T1000/1200/3000
     The world's best technological advance.
     From: KUDUT        To: ALL

Interesting.  I read an article on PC-Link (America Online) from a man who
says that the best technological advance in the past 15 years hasn't been
the PC, but the FAX machine!

You know something, he's right.  No other item is so simple to use and yet
so powerful!  It has just enough mysticism to keep us curious, while allowing
almost EVERYONE to be able to use it!  Just press GO and you're on your
way!

Most people are confused by PC's, though.  They know they're good for something,

but{_ no one's really sure for what!

I might repost it if anyone's interested.

--Ken

BTW:  Relevence to Tandy 1000's?  Well, I see Deskmate as the FAX machine
of the PC world.  Any thoughts?

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21162  1JUL92-1942 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21154)
     From: FIRELINE     To: RICHARDS49

I just wrote it down. DMVTC16.RES is what it's called. Sorry for any
misunderstandings.
<grin> My memory isn't the best.

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21163  1JUL92-2033 General Information
     RE: Tandy's New 4850 EP MPC (Re: Msg 21132)
     From: JIMBODEAN    To: NEAL1530

What is the New 4850
                        In Him,
                         Jim
                         <><

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21164  1JUL92-2207 General Information
     SOUND CARD DRIVER
     From: ANDYSIMS     To: ALL

E WHERE TO FIND A DRIVER FOR THIS BOARD OR WHAT DRIVER TO USE. THE
DOCUMENTATION IN MY OWNERS MANUAL IS VERY, VERY POOR ON THIS TOPIC.

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21165  2JUL92-1946 T1000/1200/3000
     PS/2 Drives and 1000 HX
     From: JWILKERSON   To: ALL

    I am wondering if drives made for the IBM PS/2 will work on the 1000 HX.

They both get power off the main connector, and are nonstandard drives.  I
can getone real chaep (Also, an HD)

Any opinions?

Seeya
         -- John

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21166  2JUL92-1950 T1000/1200/3000
     Script
     From: WHOLCOMBE    To: ALL

When will we a script for logging onto DELPHI through SprintNet?  I tried a
couple of the generic script programs to no avail.  The Tymnet log-on
certainly was easier.
Don Holcombe

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21167  2JUL92-2024 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Script (Re: Msg 21166)
     From: BILLP49      To: WHOLCOMBE

Many people have scripts to log on via SprintNet.
Go over to the PC SIG Forum and ask, making sure that you tell them what
communications software you are using.
                                       :)  Bill

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21168  2JUL92-2213 General Information
     RE: Tandy's New 4850 EP MPC (Re: Msg 21163)
     From: NEAL1530     To: JIMBODEAN (NR)

The 4850 EP is a 486DX2/50mh which is equipped with a 120mb harddrive, 4mb ram,
a 512k built-in Paradise/Western Digital video with new WD chipsets which incle
VESA support. Video is upgradeable to 1mb and ram is upgradeable to some
ridiculous number like
16 or 32mb (can't remember which). The MPC version adds a built-in CD Rom
player and includes enhanced sound support, which O unstand is via Soundblaster
software. Oh -- the unit also comes with a 1.44mb HD 3-1/2" floppy.

Neal :)

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21169  3JUL92-0205 General Information
     2500 SX/25 SOUND CARD
     From: ANDYSIMS     To: ALL

[A/H

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21170  3JUL92-0211 General Information
     2500 SX/25 SOUND CARD
     From: ANDYSIMS     To: ALL

SORRY ABOUT THE LAST TWO TRIES... NEW USER YOU UNDERSTAND. I'LL TRY AGIN
I HAVE A 2500 SX/25. IT COMES WITH A BUILT IN SOUND CARD. THE MANUAL SAYS
YOU CAN RECORD SOUND AND PLAY IT BACK... BUT DOESN'T TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT.
I WANT TO USE THE WINDOWS 3.1 SOUND RECORDER BUT CAN'T FIGURE OUT A DRIVER
TO USE. NONE OF THE RS SALES PERSONNEL CAN HELP ME (YEAH, IT HAS A SOUND CARD
AND IT WILL WORK WITH DESKMATE... BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WINDOWS). CAN ANYONE
LL ME WHAT DRIVER TO USE AND WHERE TO FIND IT.
                                                   ANDY SIMS

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21171  3JUL92-2149 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21162)
     From: RICHARDS49   To: FIRELINE

That seems to be a special graphics driver for 16 color  Tandy SL and TL
It just may be that the CM5 does not take advantage of the 16 color. I have
a CM11 on my SL2 and it all seems to work okay. I may be getting something
confused but I remenber when I brought the SL2 that the salesperson said
something along the lines that the CM11 was the monitor that took advantage
of Tandy graphics, of course that could have been all bs just to sell the
more expensive device.

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21172  4JUL92-0006 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21171)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: RICHARDS49

It seems like the CM-5 on my wifes 1000SX works in 16 colors.
The CM-5 just has a very bad DOT spacing, so that things look
much nicer on the CM-11 (wish I'd known that when I bought the
thing!).
                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21173  4JUL92-0229 General Information
     CM-11 Monitor
     From: ANDY126      To: ALL

CM-11 up for adoption....needs a home.....only 1 year old....house broken,
Will ship UPS anywhere...No reasonable offer refused....Up graded to VGA so the
CM-11 is in the way!  For more info...leave me e-mail
:)

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21174  5JUL92-1927 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Hard Drive Problem... (Re: Msg 21126)
     From: TAHITI       To: TATTOOWAYNE (NR)

Hard Drives International sells a DTC hard drive controller which works in the
1000SX.  Two types:  MFM and RLL.  I have found the RLL controller will format
an MFM drive to 50% more with faster access time. (After reading this there
will be those who will
 tell you this is a bad practice.  I have been doing it for years and have
NEVER lost a byte of data.  A 20M Seagate MFM will format to a 32M RLL.  The
only real difference is the controller - no matter what anyone tells you.)

Never tried the WD controller but I beleive mother board switch 5?? needs to be
turned off for the DTC to work.  This may also work with the WD.

Let me know how this comes out.

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21175  5JUL92-1938 T1000/1200/3000
     Tandy 20M External Hard Drives and Xebec
     From: TAHITI       To: ALL

Does anyone know who manufactured the external Tandy 20M HD's for Tandy.  I
have been trying for at least a year to get a replacement controller for these
drives.  I called Tandy and gave them the item number - they said no technical
manual was available.
 I need information as to how a new controller can be used in place of the old
Xebec controller which apparently sends a ready signal to the external hard
drives.  I can find no other controller capable of this but I understand there
is a way to bypass thi
s ready signal - but I need the technical manual.
Any help anyone can give me will be appreciated.  I just cannot justify
throwing away $1400 worth of hard drives (I have two).
Thanks to all!!

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21176  5JUL92-2009 General Information
     RE: CM-11 Monitor (Re: Msg 21173)
     From: JBUCATA      To: ANDY126

Are those useable on Tandy 2000s?

Jason Bucata (JBUCATA)


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21177  6JUL92-2151 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Deskmate SDK (Re: Msg 21160)
     From: GREGL        To: KUDUT

The last time I checked, the DeskMate SDK is available from the DeskMate
Support Group for $250. It includes the necessary libraries, a screen designer
that generates the required C source code, and two fat manuals in 8.5 by 11
inch binders. Supported languages/compilers include Microsoft C, Microsoft
Macro Assembler, Turbo Assembler, Turbo C, and Borland C compilers.

        -- Greg

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21178  6JUL92-2154 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21162)
     From: GREGL        To: FIRELINE

Are you sure that's the exact filename being asked for? The reason I ask is
because the Tandy 16-color driver is either DMVDTC16.RES for pre-3.04
versions of DeskMate 3, and DMVSTC16.RES for DeskMate 3.04 and 3.05.

        -- Greg

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21179  6JUL92-2157 General Information
     RE: 2500 SX/25 SOUND CARD (Re: Msg 21170)
     From: GREGL        To: ANDYSIMS

I don't think a Windows driver is available for Tandy Sound (the built-in
sound hardware). I'm using a Tandy 2500 SX/20 and although I haven't looked
very hard, I didn't find one on the Microsoft BBS the last time I checked.
You might call Tandy in Fort Worth, or have your local Radio Shack store do
it for you.

        -- Greg

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21180  7JUL92-0207 Printers and Peripherals
     Tandy 1400LT
     From: 3RDH552      To: ALL

I want to upgrade my 1400LT with an external HD.  Has anyone tried this?
Any problems or recommendations?

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21181  7JUL92-0345 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21154)
     From: JAXOMSTEVE   To: RICHARDS49

Michael Banks's Online Delphi handle is KZIN. Send him E-Mail at that address
if you have any questions for him. Chat atcha Later...Jax...


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21182  7JUL92-0347 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21159)
     From: JAXOMSTEVE   To: KUDUT

Well among other things, Michael Banks is a Larry Nivin "Known Universe" fan.
And he writes great computer related books too...GRIN!


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21183  8JUL92-2327 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21171)
     From: MLD1         To: RICHARDS49

I have a Tandy 1000TX with a CM5 monitor, and had no trouble at all with the
16 color graphics. It works fine! I even upgraded the memory to 728K (for video)

and I didn't notice much of a difference. Mary

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21184  9JUL92-0051 General Information
     RE: CM-11 Monitor (Re: Msg 21176)
     From: ANDY126      To: JBUCATA

Yes I belive so...perhaps someone else here could confirm it..

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21185 11JUL92-1306 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Deskmate SDK (Re: Msg 21177)
     From: KUDUT        To: GREGL

It's $250?  Hmm... I thought it was $150...  anyway  --  it's too bad it
doesn't support Turbo Pascal, since it's the only language that I know at
this point.  However, it'd be a good idea for me to learn how to program
in C anyway, so it'll be a challenge.

I wonder what kind of restrictions they place on distribution of the
software, if any?  Hmm... I'll check it out with them.  I'm anxious to
take a look and see what it's like :)

--Ken

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21186 11JUL92-1306 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21182)
     From: KUDUT        To: JAXOMSTEVE

Hmm... I guess being a Larry Nivin fan -would- drive a little insanity
into any of us :)

--Ken

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21187 11JUL92-2246 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21183)
     From: RICHARDS49   To: MLD1

It took a little while to find this, according to the book`Upgrading Your
Tandy' by DCS publications " All of the 1000 series have built into them an
improved Tandt Color Graphics mode which we will refer to as TCGA. TCGA cna
display 320 x 200 resolution with 16 colors ... The Tandy CM-11 monitor is
the only CGA monitor which we know of which run the improved Tandy modes.
The Tandy CM-5 and CGA monitors by other manufacturers are only capable of
the standard CGA modes." This is what I was referring to as standred CGA is
320 x 200 with four colors.
Also in this section there states that the TX has a type of graphics called
composite.

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21188 12JUL92-0211 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21187)
     From: MLD1         To: RICHARDS49

The Tandy CM-5 monitor DOES display more colors than the traditional CGA when
it is connected to a TANDY 1000 computer, even the older models such as the EX
& the original 1000 or 1000A. If you have any doubt about this, just try to
log on to Prodigy using a non-Tandy computer with a CGA monitor, and then using
a TANDY 1000 with a CM-5. You will immediately see a BIG difference! Prodigy
doesn't support CGA in color, however, it DOES support Tandy CGA in color. And
that includes the older Tandy 1000's, as well as the newer models. But yes, the
newer models with the CM-11 or VGA monitors are much better. Mary

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21189 12JUL92-0533 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21187)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: RICHARDS49

Well, speaking from personal experience: the authors of
"Upgrading Your Tandy" are wrong.

My wifes PC is a Tandy 1000 SX, with a CM-5 hooked up to the TTL
video port.  She can view 16 color graphics in 320x200 mode.  The
the 1000 SX can't do it, but the monitor should display 16 colors
at 640x200.  (The later T1000 models have the 640x200x16 mode,
but I don't recall if I've ever seen a CM-5 hooked up to them).

The composite graphics is a separate adapter that displays
everthing that is displayed by the TTL port (TTL has also been
called an RGB port).  It carries a NTSC video signal that can
plug into many TVs and VCRs.

The problem with the CM-5 is it's dot resolution.  It's horrible.
You can see the pixels that make up the image.  I looked up the
specs:  the DOT pitch is .64 mm.  The CM-11 has a much tighter
DOT pitch, though I don't know it's exact value.  In other words,
the higher resolution screens look better on a CM-11 as compared
to the CM-5.
                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21190 12JUL92-1310 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21189)
     From: KUDUT        To: SANDLINJ

I have a Tandy 1000 TL that does 640x200x16.  I also have a CM-5 monitor
hooked up to it.  The Dot-pitch is HORRIBLE, but it does do 640x200x16
quite nicely, thank you :)

Actually, right now, as I'm fixing up a friend's Tandy 1000, I put the
Tandy 1000's monitor to mine (it's a CM-4 monitor), and noticed something:

It is MUCH better!  The CM-4 hasn't been made for years by Radio Shack, but
the first things I noticed were:  Tight Dot-Pitch for a CGA-type monitor,
Bright, Bright colors, and the screen is a couple of inches larger than mine.

The only problem with it, and it isn't much of a problem, is that, when I
put a magnetic thing on top of it, like a speaker, the electron beam gets
draw to it, creating a wierd color change in that corner of the monitor.
I noticed it on a BBS.  I had wondered how the hell they got some Red Characters

on a Blue Background to go smoothly onto a Purple background!  It looked
really spectacular, until I noticed the speaker sitting on top it the
(of the) monitor!

--Ken

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21191 12JUL92-2326 T1000/1200/3000
     Windows,v3.1 w/TL2
     From: GUSMOYER     To: ALL

I understand that Microsoft Windows,v3.1, requires expanded memory. Since the
Tandy TL/2 only supports extended memory, how can one run this new update?

Thanks.


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21192 13JUL92-0003 Printers and Peripherals
     dc 2212 modem
     From: PHISH        To: ALL

 I just got dc 22

exit


?

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21193 13JUL92-0602 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Windows,v3.1 w/TL2 (Re: Msg 21191)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: GUSMOYER

Win 3.1 does accept extended memory, as far as I know.
                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21194 15JUL92-0550 T1000/1200/3000
     PS/2 Drives w/ 1000 HX?
     From: JWILKERSON   To: ALL

   I'll ask A-Gain... if anyone knows whether or not drives made for the IBM
2 Will work on the Tandy 1000 HX.... Will they or will they not?

Seeya
         -- John

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21195 15JUL92-0735 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: PS/2 Drives w/ 1000 HX? (Re: Msg 21194)
     From: MISAL        To: JWILKERSON

The PS/2 that the drives came from could be a micro-channel system. They
may not work. What model/make info can you get from the the drives? This is
important. Maybe that is why no one answered the first time you asked -- more
info, please <grin>!

Mike


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21196 15JUL92-2129 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21187)
     From: NEAL1530     To: RICHARDS49

Everything in that quote is correct except the note on the CM-5. The CM-5 was
the monitor that was bundled with the 1000TL/2 and it handled 16-Color TCGA.
One opted for the CM-11 for higher resolution.

Neal :)

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21197 15JUL92-2230 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21188)
     From: RICHARDS49   To: MLD1

Okay I will cross the line out in the book

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21198 15JUL92-2230 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21189)
     From: RICHARDS49   To: SANDLINJ

The book goes when I sell the computer.

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21199 16JUL92-0112 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: PS/2 Drives w/ 1000 HX? (Re: Msg 21194)
     From: MLD1         To: JWILKERSON

The only reason I didn't answer before is that I do not know the answer, I can
only
suggest that you check the pin outs on the 2 drives to see if they are the same
if they are then they should work, if not, maybe they will work by rearanging
the cables to fit the Tandy (twisting the cables so that they will have the
same pin outs). Mary

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21200 16JUL92-0325 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21197)
     From: JAXOMSTEVE   To: RICHARDS49

You might wanna cross more lines out Richard, I used a Packard Bell CGA monitor
with .3? somthing dot pitch with my Tandy 1000(A) and 1000TL and it did the
16 color Tandy graphics excellently! You're not stuck with the CM5 or CM11
to do Tandy Graphics! Any good CGA monitor will do! Just so you know...Jax...


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21201 17JUL92-1545 General Information
     HELP!
     From: WILSONJ      To: ALL

 I have recently purchased a tandy 2500sx/20 w/1 meg ram on the motherboard.
i've deceided to instal 2 additional meg, of ram, my manual says to use 1x9
80 ns simms, radio shack wants almost $300.00 for this upgrade so i deceided
to get them at one of the local computer shops ($42.0 each) ,just one problem
when i first turn on the computer it only counts up to 1 meg , but i can
immediattly hit reset ( any time after i turn the computer on ) and it
will ALWAYS count all the way up to 3 megs.
 I've tried to get help from radio shack, but i havent heard back from them
yet? so PLEASE ! if anyone can help i would GREATLY appreciate it !!!!

                               thanks
                                  WILSONJ

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21202 17JUL92-2246 General Information
     RE: HELP! (Re: Msg 21201)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: WILSONJ

I'm just shooting in the dark here:  Many computers have jumpers
that need changing when you add memory, and the 2500sx/20 might
be one of them.  You'll have to check in the manual for the
instructions (Under Memory upgrade, hopefully) for changing the
jumper.

Of course, Tandy could have been mean and decided not to put the
instructions in the manual and instead sell them with the chips,
but that doesn't sound likely.  Have you tried calling Fort
Worth?
                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21204 18JUL92-0250 General Information
     RE: HELP! (Re: Msg 21202)
     From: GREGL        To: WILSONJ

After installing the two SIMMs in the socket, you need do nothing more than
run SETUPSX and change the Extended Memory from 0 to 2048. Be sure to press
F2 to save the changes. If you are still having problems after running SETUPSX,
make sure you have the SIMMs firmly seated in the sockets. It's almost too
easy to install SIMMs without getting them properly seated all the way down
into the sockets. In other words, you may want to push down to make sure
they are seated tightly.

I install four 1MB SIMMs in the 2500 SX/20 I'm using at home and the
installation is easy. The only problem I had was exactly as described
above. I inserted the SIMMs in the socket and pushed them back into
the socket until they clicked. But I noticed as I inserted each one that
the pins at the bottom were sitting a little too high so I pushed each
one down with my thumbs until all were firmly seated. Do note however
that if the SIMMs are really high, remove them completely and reinstall.
I mean if the SIMMs are so high up they are above the fingers in the socket,
you could damage the fingers. Best advice may be to yank them out and
reinsert them - but to make sure you push down and back at the same time.

        -- Greg

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21205 18JUL92-0840 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21200)
     From: KUDUT        To: JAXOMSTEVE

Ah - so there's a CGA monitor with a .3something Dot-Pitch?  Well, I guess
I'd better look in the Want-Ad Press and try and find it (after looking
in a computer shopper for which ones have it).  I'm a loyal customer to
Tandy, only because they've treated me well, and I like the product.

Loyalty isn't stupid, it just went passe in the '80's.  It'll come back,
though, as soon as people are given a reason to stay loyal.  Even after I
get myself a faster computer (or even just a SVGA card for this Tandy 1000 TL)
I'll still keep up on the Tandy Graphics 'cause thousands of silent people
are using their Tandy's w/TGA every day, and will continue to do so for
at least a decade to come if not more, and the more I learn how to program,
the more new Tandy stuff you'll be seeing out here on Delphi.

--Ken

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21206 18JUL92-1055 General Information
     RE: HELP! (Re: Msg 21204)
     From: WILSONJ      To: GREGL

 my setup is O.K. ,i've tried re-inserting the SIMMs , but i'll check if
there seating properly , the memory is useable after i hit reset though ???
very confusing !  thanks for the advice , hopefully thats the my problem ..

                            THANKS
                                 -john Wilson

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21207 18JUL92-1059 General Information
     RE: HELP! (Re: Msg 21202)
     From: WILSONJ      To: SANDLINJ

 i've checked for jumpers , none .  your right about the instructions tandy
sells them with the chips ..  fortunatly i bought the computer from a friend
of mine (at radio shack) , and he'll help me out ,   we are waiting for a
call-back from fort worth now ..      thanks for the advice !!

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21208 18JUL92-2108 T1000/1200/3000
     How Widespread are Tandy computers?
     From: KUDUT        To: ALL

How many people do you know that have a Tandy computer system?

It seems to me that a majority of people have a Tandy computer at home or
at least used to.  Yet, I don't really see too terribly much around in
ways of special interest groups and such.  I would think that there'd be more
people out there that would write programs that took advantage of the Tandy
1000 line's special graphics and sound (all built in).

Does it mean that Tandy's aren't being used anymore?  Or does it mean that
the people that use Tandy's just want to USE them and not program with them?


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21209 19JUL92-0310 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21208)
     From: BRIPLEY      To: KUDUT

I'm sure Tandy has a big share of the IBM compatible market but their TCGA
and three voice sound pale quickly when viewed and heard alongside SVGA and a
Soundblaster board! ;)  I've only had an IBM compatible (old 1000SX) for
eight months now and I did spend a few months rummaging through the Tandy
specific stuff over in the Crossfire database.  I found TCGA no better than
my old Colour Computer graphics and suffering from much less support.  Sooo,
now I'm looking at VGA graphics and running a Soundblaster.

Newer Tandy machines have stock VGA now and perhaps many users of older
Tandys have, like me, upgraded the video and sound and are essentially
running IBM compatibles that happen to be named Tandy.

I understand your point, but when I got my little system (cheap) and saw the
situation you've described, I just threw money at it! <G>

Ben

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21210 19JUL92-0429 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21205)
     From: JAXOMSTEVE   To: KUDUT

Ken,
    Keep an eye on the Packard Bell CGA monitor's. That's what I had when I
was still Tandy 1000 TGA'ing it. I'm not positive about the .DOT pitch of it
since it's been a while. I went SVGA about a year and a half ago and sold
the CGA Monitor to afford the MultiSync one I got for the SVGA. Now I'm not
even Tandy anymore. Nuthin' wrong with Loyalty im my book if you can
afford being gouged by the 10x Mark-Up that Tandy has on most of it's Computer
Perhiferals. I bought my 1st two computers from em' and was a happy camper,
but all my perhiferals, like the CGA Monitor, printer's, modems, harddrives
etcetra, I bought 3rd party mail order thru PCM Magazine. Couldn't beat the
prices with a Big Ol' Stick. Chat at ya later...Jax...


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21211 19JUL92-1626 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21208)
     From: LAREDO       To: KUDUT

  Ken,

   I have four Tandy Computers and I find a tremendous amount of support out
there, not only from this SIG but from alot of other places as well.

  I subscribe to two magazines that support nothing but Tandy products. One
is PCM magazine that is a sponser of this SIG and the other, 1000 Magazine
is dedicated to the 1000 line of Tandy computers. Both publications feature
articles about programing with the Tandy computers.

  I am also lucky that I have a Radio Shack outlet nearby that actually have
a few employees that are really up on Tandy computers. If they can't answer
my question they will call Tandy Tech. Support and get an answer for me
right away.

  The support that I find out there is one reason why I have stayed with
Tandy computers for so long.

                                    Mike

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21212 19JUL92-2039 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21209)
     From: KUDUT        To: BRIPLEY

*--*  07-19-92  -  20:34:14  *--*
[ 4 Lines, 121 Bytes ]
Well, TCGA and the three voice sound may pale compared to SVGA and Sound Blast,
but why be like the rest?

hehe :)

Seriously, though...  Maybe the stuff you get with a Tandy 1000 computer isn't
the fastest, the sharpest or the bestest (huh? you all say), but I honestly
think that -most- people who need a home computer don't really care about
super-sharp gads of colors or blippity blap - wham pow sound.  Maybe I'm
wrong, and once I read the other messages in this forum I might be found to
be so, but that's what I believe.

The stuff that you get with a Tandy 1000 is NOT an extra-cost option that takes
up another precious slot in your slot-card bay.  Generally, people that I know
that want a computer want something they can just plug in the wall and USE,
not fiddle and tweak and otherwise mess around with.  They don't want to
change their Autoexec.Bat, Config.Sys, because they don't or care what the
heck it is.  When they want to play a game, they want to be able to pop
in a disk and play it, not have to fiddle around with x,y, or z.




Also, I think that using last years top of the line equiptment (i.e. -
Tandy's graphics and sound) is more than enough for most people, as
the majority of people can't really afford the prices and the hassle and
the pain of buying a mail-order computer...

--Ken

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21213 19JUL92-2043 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21210)
     From: KUDUT        To: JAXOMSTEVE

Hmm...  I think I'll just order the last x amount of years of PCM as it
seems to be the perfect magizine for someone like me.

Regarding the perhipherals...  Well, I usually buy any perhipherals that I need
through the mail order outlet... but I get Tandy only stuff if I can help it,
if for nothing else, to guarentee the compatibily.

It's funny, too...  I've tried all the newer stuff out there... SVGA,
Sound Blaster, etc... even putting it on my machine for a trial... but
I think I'll stick with this.  If, for not other reason, because I know
that there's thousands of people out there perfectly happy with this
arrangement and if I'm going to program or anything like that, I want to
be able to appreciate people running on last-year's model (or the model
from 4 years ago... whichever ;D )

[more later]

--Ken

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21214 19JUL92-2046 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21211)
     From: KUDUT        To: LAREDO

Hey Mike?  I don't suppose you could pass on the 1000 magizines and the PCM
magizines to a person that would really LOVE to be able to read them?  Just
for a while -- long enough to stand by a copier machine or TEXT to copy
the things that I wanna know ;)

I'm really glad that there's someone else around that really likes Tandy
products.  Sure -- they're a little more money, but you're guarenteed
compatibility and they take care of the little things..... you're not
apt to cut yourself when you open up the computer as you are with many
other computers out there (especially some of the less-worthy mail-order
computers on the market today!)


--Ken

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21215 19JUL92-2132 General Information
     RE: HELP! (Re: Msg 21207)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: WILSONJ

Well, good luck on the system, then!
                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21216 19JUL92-2132 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21208)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: KUDUT

I think Tandy computers are fairly wide spread.  PCM magazine
seems to have a pretty good following, and it often has Tandy
1000 specific programs listed in it.

A lot of people are getting the more powerful computers from
Tandy now (I have a Tandy 3000).  Those computers don't use the
Tandy 1000 sound and video, so folks like me aren't busy writing
Tandy 1000 specific programs.

By the way, just for your edification:  The Tandy 1000 series of
computers were not at all IBM NON-compatible.  They were in fact
very IBM compatible.  Unfortunately, they were IBM PC-jr compatible,
and that is what made things difficult, and why so many folks
like to "Tandy-Bash."

Tandy has always been a leader in the technology used in their
computers.  That, however, has often taken them away from the
straight and narrow as far as compatibility is concerned.  How
many PCs do you know that had three voice sound back when the
T1000 was introduced (just the PC-jr, and the various
non-compatibles).  The TGA was introduced before EGA (also was a
PC-jr feature).  Tandy was an early user of the IDE interface.
Tandy computers had advanced sound capabilities before other IBM
compatibles (Digitizing).

When you are on the bleeding edge, you are going to produce some
failures (like the T-2000).  IBM has a habit of not following
anyone elses idea of a good standard.  So it isn't surprising
that IBM didn't follow Tandy's lead (actually, it was IBM's idea
in the first place, Tandy just did it better).

When the PC-jr failed, IBM must have assumed 16 color graphics
and three voice sound weren't wanted.  (They should have assumed
it was the chicklet keyboard and memory limitations that killed
it).  They were wrong.  The Tandy 1000, with it's only marginally
decent 90-key keyboard, did very well with three voice sound and
16 color graphics and did so at the prices Tandy sells their
product at.

                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21217 19JUL92-2319 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21200)
     From: MLD1         To: JAXOMSTEVE

It is a function of the BUILT-IN Tandy Color Grafics portion of the 1000
motherboards, not of the monitors themselves that allows the Tandy computers
to use the TCGA 16 colors.  MAry

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21218 20JUL92-0252 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21212)
     From: BRIPLEY      To: KUDUT

It could be true that most people who NEED a home computer are quite
satisfied with Tandy's built-in features, Ken, but I don't fit that category.
Computing is a hobby for me and graphics and sound are at the top of my `play
list'.  I'm also one of those who quite enjoy all that fiddling and tweaking
you mentioned.  That's probably because I'm not always poring over some
spreadsheet or editing my next novel.

I didn't realize those slots were precious so I just went ahead and filled
them all up! ;)

I do like Tandy computers and subscribe to PCM, and if I do upgrade further
in a few years (386?, 486?) it will most likely be through a close-out or
resale of a current Tandy model (and all those cards are coming with me).

Ben

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21219 21JUL92-1902 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21214)
     From: LAREDO       To: KUDUT

   Ken,

  If you E-Mail me your address, I'll send you a couple of my old 1000
magazines to help you decide whether or not you would like to subscribe. I
believe that they are published bi-monthly now.

  I find that I enjoy reading PCM more as they support all models of Tandy
computers. Try calling 1 800 847-0309 and see if you can order a couple of
PCM's back issues. I don't know if you have to be a subscriber to order
them.


                                  Mike

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21220 21JUL92-2006 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21216)
     From: KUDUT        To: SANDLINJ

Just a quick response:

I often wonder why Tandy doesn't incorporate the digitzed and three-voice sound
into their entire line of computers.  I mean, there's no reason to relegate
the upper computers to the beep-beep honk sound of most other business computers

There's no reason that I can see, except for a minimal lessening of cost, that
would keep Tandy from including those two chips in their computers.  I know
that a lot of you will probably say "Well, if they want sound, they'll get
a SoundBlaster/Adlib/MIDI card".  True, but why should they waste a card slot
when they only want the occasional presentation-quality sound?

--Ken

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21221 21JUL92-2011 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21218)
     From: KUDUT        To: BRIPLEY

To confess:

                I am a fiddler and a tweaker as well...  I enjoy getting every
nook and cranny out of my computer.  I love my computer for computer's sake, not

for what utility it can perform.

BTW:  SHAME ON YOU!  Those slots were a precious thing, and you just WENT AHEAD
and filled them up!  Sacreligious!

<<  good to see that you're next computer'll be a Tandy -- I'm glad to see
another friend not turning away from Tandy.  Maybe I sound fanatical, but
that's just your imagination, isn't it?  TANDY TANDY TANDY!!!.. whooops --
lost self-control for a... BUY A TANDY AND KEEP IT SACRED... moment. >>

--Ken

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21222 22JUL92-0055 General Information
     BASIC PROGRAMS IN PCM - CHANGE TO VGA
     From: DAIRYLADY    To: ALL

   I have typed more than 80 programs from PCM with my Tandy CM-11 monitor rt
of my system (1000 TL, 20-meg hard drive, DMP-240
printer). I just upgraded to VGA and bought a modem this month, signed onto
Delphi, and this is my first try at getting some help from all of you. Could
anybody help me change the following GW-BASIC programs from PCM to work with
VGA. It takes more than deleting the CLEAR ,,, ... statements and changing
SCREEN 5 to SCREEN 7 (or 6 to 8). The programs are: SCRAMBLE.BAS, SEAWOLF.BAS,
ONECARD.BAS, QWIKFNGR.BAS, MATCHUP.BAS, SPACEWAR.BAS, SHAPEINV.BAS, RADXPL.BAS,
MOUSER.BAS, DISPLAY.BAS, and KIDKAD.BAS. I have successfully made changes to
many other programs, and would be glad to share them with anyone in exchange
for help.

  Thank you all, and I am glad to be here.

                                      Susan Kalhoefer

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21223 22JUL92-0431 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21221)
     From: BRIPLEY      To: KUDUT

O me of little faith.  But those slots just looked so... well.. EMPTY, Ken.
;>  Besides, they could put 35 slots in these suckers and there'd be 36 MUST
HAVE cards out there to strain our brains, not to mention wallets!

Nothing wrong with sticking with Tandy.  Imagine trying to get the lowdown on
some other manufacturer's idiot-syncracies (not the 1-800 tech line baloney,
but real `user' help).  Where's the Leading Edge Sig around here? <g> Amen.

Ben

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21224 22JUL92-0458 General Information
     RE: BASIC PROGRAMS IN PCM - CHANGE TO VG (Re: Msg 21222)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: DAIRYLADY

You should probably supply which issues of PCM those were in, or
e-mail the files.   I can't fix a program I haven't seen.

Since I don't have much time available for outside projects (I
have plenty!  <grin>) I couldn't promise to work on more than one
a week.  But, if you'll E-mail me a copy of the files I will sure
give it a shot.  (None of those programs look like ones I've
typed in already).
                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21225 22JUL92-2157 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21205)
     From: JBUCATA      To: KUDUT

Tandy has treated you well?

You like the product?

Are we both thinking of the same place here? :)

Jason Bucata (JBUCATA)


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21226 23JUL92-0353 General Information
     TRS - 80
     From: TERRYWELLS   To: ALL

I no nothing about the Tandy, a friend of mine was cleaning out a vacant
apt the other day and came accrose a tandy trs-80 portfollo 'i hope i spelled
that right'
Anyway,   there wasn't any manual or disks with this mechine.
My question is were can i get ahold of a dos or some reading materal on the
trs-80?

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21227 23JUL92-0517 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: PS/2 Drives w/ 1000 HX? (Re: Msg 21195)
     From: JWILKERSON   To: MISAL

Not sure... saw them at a used computer parts store for $20 each.  Could be
a less expensive alternative.

         -- John

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21228 23JUL92-2145 General Information
     how common are tandy's
     From: OSRIC        To: ALL

One reason Tandy's are popular I haven't seen mentioned (read mine) is the RS
credit card.  I didn't have a Visa or MC, but RS gave me enough credit to buy a
decent system, not everything I wanted, but better than nothing.  So my TL/3 is
on my desk, not th
e Zeos with wiz-bang graphics, sol microprocessor, and one metric megaton of
memory I wanted.

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21229 24JUL92-0655 Printers and Peripherals
     CDROM
     From: MAJ          To: ALL

I have a 2500 XL2 with an internal CDROM CDR-1000 installed and also a 2500
/20
with an external Magnavox CDROM.  Both play audio cd's fine.  My problem is
that t
the CDR-1000 will not play any sounds from ROMS such as the Encyclopedia. The se

seconds also do not count down on the upper portion of the screen after you pre
the ALT7 key.  The Magnavox works great. Any suggestions or am I just stuck with

the pictures and text on the Tandy CDROM drive?  Thanks, Joe in FLA.

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21230 24JUL92-2053 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21220)
     From: THEKAT       To: KUDUT



n



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21231 25JUL92-0001 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21225)
     From: MLD1         To: JBUCATA

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Tandy Computers, EXCEPT that they are a
little bit proprietary. But they are starting to change even that! They are
well built, they last a long time (my 1000 EX that I bought in 86 is still
going strong!), and I haven't had any problem with any of the Tandy's that I
have owned (I currently own 3 Tandy's, including my 1500 laptop). Mary

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21232 25JUL92-0003 General Information
     RE: TRS - 80 (Re: Msg 21226)
     From: MLD1         To: TERRYWELLS

Almost any Radio Shack should be able to help you or let you know where to get
what you need even if they don't currently have it in stock. Mary

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21233 25JUL92-0346 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21213)
     From: JAXOMSTEVE   To: KUDUT

Tha latest Issue of PCM has an Advertiser offering 386 and 486 Motherboard
replacements for the Tandy 1000 Series of PC. Check em' out! Wish I still had
mine...Hehehe...
Jax...


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21234 25JUL92-0758 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21223)
     From: KUDUT        To: BRIPLEY

hehe :)

That's true, though...  No matter how many slots a computer may have, there'll
always be a bunch of people who will find JUST ONE MORE card and will say
"Hey!  What a cheapskate company this is!  They imposed limitations on my
freedom of slot-spression!"

--Ken

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21235 25JUL92-0803 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21225)
     From: KUDUT        To: JBUCATA

Well, I'm thinking about Tandy, Jason :)

Actually, I feel kinda bad for those people that managed to get the major
"incompetent group" that Radio Shack had (and still has in some parts of
the country) for a couple of years.  That's not to put them down, but
when Tandy introduced, for example, the Tandy 1000 SX and the later ones,
it was a Christmas rush, and the sales managers had to double as computer
people, which didn't really work, from what I know and from what I've heard.
Every company makes one big boo-boo once in a while.  Tandy just made a few
in a couple ofyears, that's all ;)

Besides, I don't usually bother making fun or ridiculing another company...
(not USUALLY, but sometimes)...  People are highly intelligent and highly
stupid all at the same time, and that includes the high-profile people,
who are people too -- all apt to make some blunder here and there.

Then again, it _IS_ quite fun, once in a while, to poke fun at a "biggie" :)

--Ken

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21236 25JUL92-0804 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21230)
     From: KUDUT        To: THEKAT

N?

:)

Zat mean "Nope - never had luck with Tandy's"?  Or "Never again!"?  Or maybe
just...
        ..."Not too shabby!"

--Ken

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21237 25JUL92-0808 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21233)
     From: KUDUT        To: JAXOMSTEVE

So it's TRUE!

The 386/486 motherboards ARE available!

You know, even if I stuck a supervga monitor, 1 google channel MIDI
box, three or four different operating systems, a 30886/667mhz, and
a 360K 5 1/4" floppy drive in here, I'd still think of it as my
good old Tandy.

I think that's why people generally hate giving up their own computers.
Maybe it's cheaper just to buy a new unit, but sometimes it's better to
work with what you're familiar and spend a little more work and money
getting it going.  Kinda like someone you love.  Instead of dumping the
one (or two or three or four) you love, spend a bit more energy and get
something that will be better in the long run, because s/he is someone
that you're already familiar with and will support you better.

In other words, seeing that same face can work wonders sometimes, even if
the person inside is completely different.

--Ken

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21238 25JUL92-0812 General Information
     RE: how common are tandy's (Re: Msg 21228)
     From: KUDUT        To: OSRIC

Re: Getting credit at Radio Shack, etc.

the RC credit card is the reason why my mom's and my office (we're starting
a business together) is LOADED with Tandy stuff, from a TandyFax, a new
Tandy Laser Printer (model 950, last year's model at BIG discount), Tandy
phones, answering machine.

But you know what?  We want the red chairs in the Radio Shack stores!

--Ken

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21239 25JUL92-1338 T1000/1200/3000
     Question
     From: SGUSTAFSON   To: ALL

I have a question about my tandy 1000 model a.  Yes an ancient 8088 computer.
My question is this.  Is this computer still good?  I would like to know thanks.

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21240 25JUL92-1518 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Question (Re: Msg 21239)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: SGUSTAFSON

SGUSTA> I have a question about my tandy 1000 model a.  Yes an ancient
SGUSTA> 8088 computer. My question is this.  Is this computer still good?
SGUSTA> I would like to know thanks.

Well, that depends on what you want to use it for.  My wife is
using my old Tandy 1000 SX (yup, it only has an 8088).  It does
everything my wife needs a computer to do.

On the other hand, if you want to run Windows (why?!) or OS/2,
the new 486 computers Tandy is selling are very nice.  <$$$>

So, it's up to you:  Do you like the computer, still get use out
of it, and are satisfied with how it works?  Or have you gotten
tired of the limitations, looking at all that fancy software the
says it needs at least a 386sx/20, and really want to have the
latest and greatest?

                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21241 25JUL92-1555 General Information
     RE: TRS - 80 (Re: Msg 21226)
     From: MARYV        To: TERRYWELLS

    Terry,
    What is a 'tandy trs-80 portfollo'?  I have a TRS-80 Model IV, along
with the manual, etc.  Ask away, others have them too...
    Maryv

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21242 25JUL92-2027 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Question (Re: Msg 21240)
     From: SGUSTAFSON   To: SANDLINJ

I am a programmer who has been out of circulation for a while.  I am trying
to learn C but the compilers are written only for 386 type boxes.  I hesitate
to spend money when this computer does nicely.   I am in a quandry which is
why I asked that question.

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21243 25JUL92-2201 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21231)
     From: JBUCATA      To: MLD1

My Tandy 1000-owning friend says that they're *more* than "a little
bit proprietary", and I have to agree.  They're *purposely* built that
way so that they can try to make money off of a proprietary market that
was taken from an open one.  They don't want to do any actual work on
their computers, they just take existing designs, make just enough changes
to make them incompatible with the mainstream, and charge for their own
extensions, which nobody else is allowed to provide.

Jason Bucata (JBUCATA)


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21244 25JUL92-2203 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21235)
     From: JBUCATA      To: KUDUT

"...all apt to make some blunder here and there."

You haven't heard me go on about Radio Shack salepersons, kiddo :).

Jason Bucata (JBUCATA)


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21247 26JUL92-0200 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21237)
     From: JAXOMSTEVE   To: KUDUT

Yeah, I guess that's why I was never able to completely dump the ol' 1000(A).
I eventually gave it to my brother just to keep it in the family. Now that
those motherboards are available, I might just save up for his christmas and
upgrade the ol' 1000(A) for him 8-)


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21248 26JUL92-0209 T1000/1200/3000
     386 & 486 in the 1000 Series
     From: JAXOMSTEVE   To: ALL

Here's the info on the 386 & 486 motherboards for the Tandy 1000 Series
found in PCM's July 1992 Issue on page 77. According to the ad, these
motherboards only go in the following model's of Tandy 1000's:
TX,TL & TL/2
Gee not as many as I'd hoped, but that's it folks. Chat atcha later...Jax...


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21249 26JUL92-1342 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Question (Re: Msg 21242)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: SGUSTAFSON (NR)

I'm pretty sure that Microsoft QuickC (v. 2.5) will run on an
8088.  All you really need is a hard drive (and that is only
"strongly recommended").  Plus, when you write software that runs
on an 8088/8086, you know that it *will* run on everything above
that.
                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21250 26JUL92-1342 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Windows,v3.1 w/TL2 (Re: Msg 21245)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: GUSMOYER

Unfortunately, I have never seen Windows 3.1 running on a TL/2.
The biggest drawback of the TL/2 is that it is an XT with a fancy
brain.  I don't know how that would work with Windows 3.1.  I
know it won't run on my Tandy 1000 SX, since it only has an 8088.

Have you asked Tandy (Radio Shack) about this?
                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21251 26JUL92-1342 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: MSDOS v.5.0 vs Tandy's version (Re: Msg 21246)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: GUSMOYER

I believe the only difference between what Tandy sells as MS-DOS
5.0 and what you find in the other software stores is that the
Tandy version doesn't have the documentation with it.

Software wise the Tandy version is identical to the "vanilla"
version of MS-DOS 5.0.  And there isn't really anything
proprietary on the HL that would make 5.0 not work.

I should add that to get the most out of 5.0 you need at least 2
MB of RAM, and to get any benifit at all you need 1 MB of RAM
(extended, not expanded). If you only have 512K on board, then
you'll miss out of most of the benifits, such as loading DOS
high.
                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21252 26JUL92-1456 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21234)
     From: BRIPLEY      To: KUDUT

Exactly!  Maybe I should make a few bets on the Blue Jays this season and try
to win enough to get a Slot Box.  One of these years they WON'T choke! ;)

Ben

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21253 26JUL92-2010 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21247)
     From: TAHITI       To: JAXOMSTEVE

I like Tandy machines (I own four of them) but I have a hard time with Tandy
Corporation and their policies.  How, for example, can they sleep at night
charging $300.00 for an 80ns two meg memory upgrade when you can get the same
mail order for $35.00/meg.
  They don't know this???

The local Tandy repair center refuses to give you the time of day - Fort Worth
insists they "do not support that item for that particular computer..." even
though they had no trouble selling it to you, and technical support is not up
to par even when you g
o through the trouble of calling Fort Worth.  It's like they don't give a rip
once they have sold you the product.
That's why we have this forum.

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21254 26JUL92-2015 T1000/1200/3000
     Technical Manual
     From: TAHITI       To: ALL

Does anyone have access to or know where to get technical information on the
external Tandy 20meg hard drives.  I tried Fort Worth and they insist they do
not exist.

I would also appreciate knowing who manufactured them.

Thanks!!

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21255 26JUL92-2157 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Question (Re: Msg 21239)
     From: KUDUT        To: SGUSTAFSON (NR)

Yup.

Your 1000 a is still quite good.  Only real difference between your computer
and the latest on the market is a matter of speed.  99% of what's out there
can run on your computer.

Just my thoughts.... :)   all "corrections" welcome!   --Ken

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21256 26JUL92-2201 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Question (Re: Msg 21242)
     From: KUDUT        To: SGUSTAFSON (NR)

As far as learning C is concerned...

..most C compilers out there are for 8086 and up, if they're for the x86
family.  They might have an option to compile a little tighter under 386,
but they should work quite well with your Tandy 1000A.

Obsolete is a worn-out, overused, unnessary term.  If it does what you need
(which it should), and if you can find the support you need for it (which
is readily available, as you can do just about any type of activity on
the 8086 as you can do on a 486 and visa-versa), then you should stick with
what you have and only buy new when it's absolutely necessary, or when you
can afford it and you think the time is right.  If you're undecided, stick
with what you have.  It's cheaper and works great :)

--Ken

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21257 26JUL92-2206 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21247)
     From: KUDUT        To: JAXOMSTEVE

Yup -- just saw those new SLOT BOXES in PCM magazine -- beautiful idea!

Sometimes it's nice to look at a friendly face rather than a newer one.
Usually (opinion here) it's best to stick with what you're comfortable
with and work with that, as it's the least painful of all operations.

--Ken

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21258 26JUL92-2208 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21248)
     From: KUDUT        To: JAXOMSTEVE

Ah -- but the SLOT BOX is available for all Tandy computers!  That alone
opens up a whole new world out there, allowing all the 2.88 to 360K drives,
expansion cards, etc, that you want, without really having to worry about
running out of space!

Sure -- it uses the same microprocessor as your Tandy, but it still is
a worthy upgrade path :)

--Ken

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21259 26JUL92-2212 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21252)
     From: KUDUT        To: BRIPLEY

I just saw the SlotBox for the first time yesterday!  Wow -- what a great
idea!  Two-hundred something dollars gets you enough room to put just 'bout
anything in your Tandy computer (or other, if you get a different slot
box, I guess, or maybe this works with all)!  Beats having to get the external
Hard Drives (if you have an HX/EX).

Actually, I just saw the new (I think they're new) INTERNAL hard drives for
the HX and EX!  That's a great concept!  I almost wish I had an HX/EX JUST
to take advantage of this really neat idea!

--Ken

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21260 27JUL92-0021 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21248)
     From: SWEENEY$4751 To: JAXOMSTEVE

What kind of price are we talking about? I have a TL/2 I would like to upgrade.

                                            Mark Sweeney

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21261 27JUL92-0336 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21260)
     From: JAXOMSTEVE   To: SWEENEY$4751

386 Motherboards are going for $689 for a 386-33 with 1 Meg DRAM
486 Motherboards are going for $1089 for a 486-33 with 1 Meg DRAM


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21262 27JUL92-0359 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21259)
     From: BRIPLEY      To: KUDUT

I'm not sure how new any of that neat hardware is, Ken, as I'm only up to my
fourth issue of PCM so far.  Lots of good stuff, but too expensive for a poor
Canadian like me. :(  Lessee... Slot Box, 2 Meg EMS board, 20% currency
exchange, 12% duty/tax = $700+ !?#!  Locally I could get a 386 box w/2 meg
and one Hi Density floppy for that much and load it up with my current
accessories.  Oh well...

Ben

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21263 27JUL92-1920 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21261)
     From: SWEENEY$4751 To: JAXOMSTEVE

Thanks for the info but it's to much for me :(

                                         Mark Sweeney

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21264 27JUL92-2032 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21258)
     From: CSTAN        To: KUDUT

Say WHAT??? The 'slot-box' is available for my 2500SX/20? Best news I've heard
since my son got married and moved out! I've got a SOLID FULL 85 Meg HD and dual

HD floppies and no open bays. Been toying with the idea of installing one of
those 'universal' (3.5 & 5 1/4 in a single bay) drives to free up another bay
for a second hardrive, but if I can switch the floppies to a slot-box I'm home
free.
Anybody tried one of those things yet? Good? Bad? The idea looks like a
lifesaver from here; maybe too good??
                    Stan, NH

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21265 28JUL92-0435 General Information
     RE: BASIC PROGRAMS IN PCM - CHANGE TO VG (Re: Msg 21224)
     From: DAIRYLADY    To: SANDLINJ


John, thank you for your offer to help. Since I left my message on the forum
twthings have happened - I had to have my modem replaced
because of a bad dial-out chip, and I have solved some of the problems with
some of the BASIC programs I listed. I will give you my new "shorter" list
with the issues in which they appeared. If you don't have some of them, I'll
get them to you on E-Mail. Here they are: SCRAMBLE.BAS in July 1987 (this
program loads a second picture file called DRAWFLAG.BAS, which looks OK on
VGA; SCRAMBLE won't load it, however, on VGA). SEAWOLF.BAS in October 1989 (the
markers won't appear on the grid). ONECARD.BAS in August 1990. This program is
the Uno game which is very long and has an accompanying file called DRAWCARD.
BAS. It ran beautifully when I typed it in a long time ago with the CM-11 as
part of the system; I also incorporated some fixes found in later issues of
"Letters to PCM," dealing with memory problems it had. It won't load at all on
VGA so I have no idea where to start with it. I really miss it. Next is
MATCHUP.BAS in December 1990. This is a real nice Concentration game. I have
narrowed the problem right now to line 460 which, as written, won't allow the
cards to flip over in VGA. If I comment out the line, the cards will flip, but
only the first score marker is placed by each player's name. The program seems
to know when there is a winner, but you can't see the score in progress. There
were some problems with colors bleeding in some of the pictures, but I've
all but the "ring" picture, which I think I can get. Next is TRAP.BAS in
August 1991. At the end of the title screen, the Scroll Lock light mysterious-
ly comes on and everything locks up. In SHAPEINV.BAS from December 1991, the
triangle and square targets don't disappear when hit; sometimes the balls
disappear when not hit. The problem seems to lie somewhere in lines 760-780.
MOUSER.BAS in April 1990 is a very nice drawing program using a joystick or
Color Mouse plugged into the right joystick port. It presents me with an
"Illegal function call in 9160" message during loadin{om


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21266 28JUL92-0445 General Information
     BASIC Programs to VGA
     From: DAIRYLADY    To: SANDLINJ (CO (NR)


Sorry --- As I was saying! I don't know enough about programming to recognize
the illegal function call. If I once get past that message, I imagine there
will be more to follow because MOUSER is a long and complex program, but I
enjoy it. The last one is KIDKAD.BAS in May 1992. In CGA, the color blocks on
the palette choice screen didn't blink; in VGA they do. I figured out how to
stop the blinking while maintaining the same colors by changing the hex code
to set bit 7 to 0 rather than 1, but I can't figure out how to get the
drawing screen to come up in anything but "Palette 1."

I sure didn't expect to say this much when I started! I'm looking forward to
getting these working again. Thank you very, very much.

                                "DAIRYLADY" Susan Kalhoefer

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21267 28JUL92-2359 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21258)
     From: MARYV        To: KUDUT

    All Tandy computers?  When I called them about 6 mo. ago, I was told
there wasn't one for the 1400's, and none were planned in the near future.
 Has this changed?  I hadn't noticed 1400's listed in their ads...
    Maryv

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21268 29JUL92-0225 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21267)
     From: BRIPLEY      To: MARYV

I think you're correct, Mary.  No mention of 1400s (laptop, right?).  They
sell two models now.  The old one is for machines with 8 bit data paths up to
the RLX, and the new one works with the 16 bit path machines like the 2500s
and 3000 and 4000 series (and sells for a mere $589.00).  Hope this helps
another member who asked about another model yesterday (I've forgotten who it
was).

Ben

P.S.  I think Ken's just excited about reading his first PCM and seeing all
the hardware goodies that are available. ;)

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21269 29JUL92-0310 General Information
     RE: BASIC PROGRAMS IN PCM - CHANGE TO VG (Re: Msg 21265)
     From: SANDLINJ     To: DAIRYLADY


SCRAMBLE (and DRAWFLAG) from the July 1987 issue, and SEAWOLF
from the October 1989 issue are not in my library.  It seems I
started getting PCM in mid 1990.  (and I have had a Tandy
computer since 1986!)

Fix number one:

        This isn't conclusive, but it has worked as far as I've
        typed in the program "MOUSER.BAS"

  LINE ## [SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS]
   10     KEY OFF:CLEAR,,3000:DEFINT  A-Z
   9100   QUIT=0:DIM CURSOR(11):DIM PAINTBRUSH(50):DIM
          STAMP(4000):DIM PAT$(15)
   9140   SCREEN 7:COLOR 15,0:CLS

For Line # 10 I shortened the CLEAR command.  Line # 9100 I
changed the DIM for CURSOR from 10 to 11.  And line # 9140 I
changed the screen mode from 5 to 7.  Now if only this version of
basic could read the extended range of my joystick port, I'd be
in great shape!

(It "wraps" around the screen!  As I lean my joystick from left
to right, the cursor moves from left to right.  When the joystick
gets to about 75% the cursor hits the right edge, and as the
joystick continues right, the cursor reappears on the left edge
of the screen and moves right again!  It's a problem with the
STICK() command.  It reads from 0 to 255.  My joystick is sending
from 6 to 333!).

I'll be getting around to the other files as time permits.  Let
me know how my corrections work out!
                            ______
John B. Sandlin <SANDLINJ> (_)--(_)
                            / ## \
( aka: SwitchTech )        |_----_|

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21270 29JUL92-2310 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21262)
     From: KUDUT        To: BRIPLEY

It's true that getting a 386 box would be cheaper, but, that's your choice.

The point of upgrading really isn't just a matter of saving money.  It's
also saving something that you're comfortable with.  I try not to compare
things from their price alone, as everything carries something MORE than
price.  In my case, in buying my Tandy, I bought quality and convenience,
and not a low priced computer...

"The bitterness of poor quality lingers on long after the sweet taste of
low price is gone."

--Ken

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21271 29JUL92-2313 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21264)
     From: KUDUT        To: CSTAN

Stan -- IT'S TRUE!!!

This one little box (which I don't have, but I REALLY wanna get) should
take care of your space problems and take the heat off your power supply!

It sorta looks like another computer, but is basically just a box with
space for 7 cards, a 200 watt power supply, and a bunch of room for
diskette drives/hard drives!  I'm not totally sure how they work it, but
it seems worth the $250 cost (or whatever it is)...  And it's a HECK of
a lot cheaper (and nicer) than buying a new computer outright, which seems
like a silly idea at times in any case :)

--Ken, from New jersey

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21272 29JUL92-2319 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21267)
     From: KUDUT        To: MARYV

Hmm..  well, maybe not the 1400 -- I'm not sure yet.  Lemme find the ads...
Hmm... nope... I don't see any from there....


HOWEVER...

I believe there IS a generic "slot-box" type thing that works from ANY
PC that has a Parallel port... but I'll have to check into that.

--Ken

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21273 29JUL92-2323 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21268)
     From: KUDUT        To: BRIPLEY

Yup -- I AM just exciting about seeing all the hardware goodies ;)

hehe :D    Actually, I've known about some of the upgrades, like the
external hard drives for the EX/HX (and not having either computer, it
really isn't relivant to me), and the nice hard cards being made for the
1000's...

.. but this slot-box thing REALLY has me going :)  Knowing my luck, I'll
probably never get one, but I'll exclaim for YEARS how WONDERFUL this is!
I think I might just subscribe to this thing.

--Ken

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21274 29JUL92-2348 General Information
     RE: dr dos (Re: Msg 20984)
     From: TEDSEIDLER   To: ADGUYTON

I've been using DR DOS 5.0 & 6.0 just about since they came out. I use 6.0 on my

1000TX, the 5.0 on the 1400LT. The biggest problem with 6.0 is that it uses
a fair bit of system RAM - my system ends up with less than 512K. OTOH, the
SuperStor doubled the size of my hard drive, so it's probably an even trade.
Some users ( myself included ) have had problems with slow floppy disk access,
but that is reasonably easily solved with messing about with the CONFIG.SYS.
I've received at least two upgrades - free and unsolicited ( although I do
send in product warranty cards ) from DR DOS/NOVELL.
This user is pleased with the product.
Best, Ted.

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21275 30JUL92-0039 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21243)
     From: MLD1         To: JBUCATA

Actually there are several vendors who cater to Tandy owners with their parts.
All you have to do is look in PCM Magazine at some of the ads. But even then,
the prices are usually a little bit higher than what you would pay for a reg.
IBM COMPAT. computer. Mary

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21276 30JUL92-0041 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21233)
     From: MLD1         To: JAXOMSTEVE

The only problem with that is you still have the same dinky power supply. Mary

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21277 30JUL92-0049 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Question (Re: Msg 21239)
     From: MLD1         To: SGUSTAFSON (NR)

Yes, your Tandy 1000A is still good, at least as long as it still works. My
Tandy 1000EX is still going strong, (being used now to help teach 2 kids how
to use a DOS computer). And they think it is great! I personally think it is
slow, but, I am comparing it to my 286, and I know people who think THAT is
slow. But there is a lot of software out there that will work on the 1000's
and they should be around for a long time. If nothing else, they work well
as a workstation on a network. Mary

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21279 30JUL92-0056 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21248)
     From: MLD1         To: JAXOMSTEVE

That doesn't say that they won't include more models later, or that they
absolutely won't work in the older models, just that they are for the newer
ones. Has anyone tried one in a 1000SX? Mary

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21280 30JUL92-0102 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21259)
     From: MLD1         To: KUDUT

Actually, the internal hard drives are for the HX only, there isn't anywhere
to put it in the EX., but the HX has 2 - 3 1/2" drdive bays on the front of the
machine. so a 3 1/2" hard drive will fit in it. Mary

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21281 30JUL92-0103 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21261)
     From: MLD1         To: JAXOMSTEVE

Do the Motherboards accept SIMMS or SIPPS Modules? Mary

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21282 30JUL92-0106 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21267)
     From: MLD1         To: MARYV

I think they are only for the 1000 series, and not all of them yet, so far
none of the portables are listed. Mary

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21283 30JUL92-0110 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21271)
     From: MLD1         To: KUDUT

They "work it" by using one of the open slots in your computer to connect to
the SLOT BOX. If you have an EX/HX tell them, they have the adapter you will
need to connect to the plus style motherboard of these machines. Mary

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21284 30JUL92-0123 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21281)
     From: JAXOMSTEVE   To: MLD1

The Ad doesn't say anything bout SIMMS or SIPPS, but it does say that they
expand up to 32 Megs using DRAM.


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21285 30JUL92-0439 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21270)
     From: BRIPLEY      To: KUDUT

You're correct in that the point of upgrading isn't ONLY about money, Ken,
else I wouldn't have spent so many U.S. $ on my Tandy Cocos over the past ten
years.  I don't think, however, that many Canadians would throw that much
cross-border cash into upgrading a six year old dead slow XT class machine
without considering other options.

I've long accepted the fact that change is inevitable and might as well be
embraced and enjoyed.  Right now I'm enjoying my little 1000SX but I'm
already sure it won't be my last computer.  And as I've said before, the next
one will likely be a newer, faster Tandy.

"The bitterness of poor quality..."  Didn't I read that in the press release
for the Tandy Model III back in '82?  ;>

Ben

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21286 30JUL92-0439 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21271)
     From: BRIPLEY      To: KUDUT

Now calm down, Ken.  You'll get one - I'm SURE! 8-)  But for CSTAN's 2500SX,
the newer Slot Box might be the right choice, as it uses a 16 bit data path.
Sells for $600, though.  The ads for the original model say it is intended
for models UP TO the RLX (all 8 bit data path machines, I think).

Ben

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21287 30JUL92-2255 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Hard Drive Problem... (Re: Msg 21126)
     From: GLENTZ       To: TATTOOWAYNE (NR)

Bios is fine for 1000sx.  It is probably an IRQ or Port conflict with
another board. Controller board should be set up for IRQ 2.  Don't know about
what IO Port should be.  Maybe the board is bad?

Greg Lentz(GLENTZ)

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21288 30JUL92-2300 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Memory Management RL (Re: Msg 21134)
     From: GLENTZ       To: NIMITZ (NR)

128k is only memory for built-in video. Can't be used otherwise.  Non-upgraded
tandy's use some of normal DOS memory for video.  On bootup Non-upgraded will
show 624K memory. After 128K upgrade you should see 640K during bootup.
Chkdsk will show 655,xxx bytes total memory since 1k=1024 bytes.

Greg Lentz(GLENTZ)

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21289 30JUL92-2306 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 EX (Re: Msg 21142)
     From: GLENTZ       To: ABELC

Where did you find the parts? Especially the cable? I'd like to add extra slots
for my 1000SX but don't know where to get the connector to plug into existing
ot in order to attach cable which would go to passiv
backplane.  $300 bucks for slot box seems like too much to me.

Greg Lentz(GLENTZ)

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21290 30JUL92-2318 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 TX and other stuff (Re: Msg 21143)
     From: GLENTZ       To: FIRELINE

Yes its true, no high density drives, unless you buy a SPECIAL controller card.
PCM magazine has some advertisers that have card and drives for <$150 total.
Don't know card mfg.  A card that I do know is Compaticard and this also will
work.  Problem with 1000's is built in floppy controller.  Can't disable it.
Add-in cards have to be able to function as secondary, with a built-in and
have their own complete bios for handling high density.  Most cards can't
a built-in controller which is why they tell you you have to be able to
disable the built-in to use their card.

Greg Lentz(GLENTZ)

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21291 30JUL92-2324 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 1000 EX (Re: Msg 21151)
     From: GLENTZ       To: ABELC

I have 1000SX with 286 express and Cyrix co-processor.  Co-processor is
rated to 20Mhz so I set express board 8MHz coprocessor.  Everything worked
fine except it wouldn't pass a test called the IEEE-?. Switching board to
5MHz solved problem.  Questions What processor are you using? what speed?
any problems?  I should mention that the processor works fine in a 10MHz
286 PS/2 model 50 so I know the processor is ok.

Greg Lentz(GLENTZ)

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21292 30JUL92-2338 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: Windows,v3.1 w/TL2 (Re: Msg 21191)
     From: GLENTZ       To: GUSMOYER

I think you have your memory types reversed.  Extended memory is only
available on TRUE 286 machines ie 16 bit slots is a good indication of true
286 machine or higher(386,486).  Expanded memory is what 8088/8086 machines
can use since 8088/8086 processor is built to address only 1Mb of memory.

Windows 3.0(yes 3.0) could run on 8088/8086 machines, actually crawl.  They
had to run in a mode called real mode. Win 3.0 could use expanded memory to
help in the speed dept. HOwever most windows pgms ie Excel or Word have to
have extended memory to work which means a true 286 or better.

Win 3.1 now REQUIRES EXTENDED memory to run which cuts out the 8088/8086
machines or the other machines that use 286 processor for speed but still
use an 8 bit technolgy like the 1000TX some of the other newer 1000's.

To answer your question NO you can't run Win 3.1 if your computer cannot
support EXTENDED Memory which I don't think any of the 1000's can.

Greg Lentz(GLENTZ)

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21293 31JUL92-0004 T1000/1200/3000
      TX Tech manual
     From: GLENTZ       To: ALL

Does anyone have the 1000TX Tech Ref manual?  I'm trying to figure out how
TX handles video in standard form(no 128K upgrade) vs upgraded(128K installed).

Reason is I bought an LIM 4.0 EMS bd from ACCULOGIC.  Except it didn't work
even though company said they had the computer on their compatable list.
Board froze computer when memory manager loaded during bootup when the 128K
video was not installed.  When the 128K was installed memory manager loaded
but gave parity errors when checking bd memory during bootup.  Also the
monitor gave all kinds of weird colors and characters.

This is why I think there is a conflict with the bd/memory manager and the
built-in video.  I even tried VGA card/monitor to "disable" the built-in
video on a T1000SX but got same result as T1000TX with no video upgrade.

EMS Bd does work in other pc/xt systems.  Board would be really good if would
work because it has following:

1)Can take 2-16MB of memory using 1 and/or 4MB simms.

2)If installed in 8bit slot will function only as expanded.

3)If installed in 16bit slot will function as expanded and/or extended. Yes
it's true I tried it in a PC/XT and it worked fine as expanded only. Then I
tried it in PC/AT and it gave me extended/expanded depended on how I set up
the board.

4)Cost is about $140 with 0K.  This board sounds like a great board compared
to the 2 other alternatives-Micromainframe or Invisible EMS bd.

5)Oh yeah it is a half length board so fits fine as long as extra connector
for 16bit slot doesn't hit anything when installed in an 8bit.

6)One other thing,  The Expanded memory manager is by Quadtel. I have talked
to them but they have no experience with T1000's but seem more than willing
to help if I can get them information.

Once again my need is for 1000TX technical info on video system and memory.
I already have 1000SX reference since that is my main computer.  1000TX is
used at work in a lab to collect data.  1000SX is MY computer at home.

Greg Lentz(GLENTZ)

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21294 31JUL92-0036 General Information
     upgrading 2500 sx/25?
     From: GMILES       To: ALL

what would it take to upgrade a 2500sx/25 to a 486/33 or better and would it be
worthwhile?

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21295 31JUL92-0058 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21285)
     From: KUDUT        To: BRIPLEY

True - change is inevitable and should be embraced.

(hey - here comes the HOWEVER...  listen closely...)

HOWEVER (don't you hate that?)... buying a newer computer rashly because
the salesperson said so is silly, especially if you spent a lot of time
searching for a good computer to begin with.

My boyfriend's a good example.  He had a Tandy 1000 HX for YEARS.  Just this
year, he got a generic 386/40 (with the AMD chipset), w/SVGA and the works.
He's had problems ever since he got it and hasn't had a week go by where he
hasn't called me (he lives in S.C. and I live in N.J. -- we met on PC-Link
a few years ago).

Everything with it has broken down at some point in time and needed to be
replaced.  Now, this story isn't unique, and, as well, doesn't hold true for
everyone, but it's a valid point.  A few more bucks would have gotten a
speedy, but safe Tandy computer.  A year ago, I would have recommended GateWay
2000's, but, since they messed around with the inner workings of the computer
(like making horizontal slots, a nice, but terribly odd keyboard, strange
motherboard layout) and re-released them, I really can't recommend them.

Tandy has learned its lesson -- keep it compatible.  Zenith, Compaq, and all
those big folks have learned that it's better to get along with your neighbors
rather than putting up fences and boobytraps.  Gateway and a few other very
high quality, but newer companies, have started doing things the non-standard
way.  While additions are great and fine, making the additions in a strange
fashion only hurts, especially when the only place to buy more additions is
from the company you bought the computer.

I've looked longingly in Computer Shopper at some of the nice machines
that I can almost afford without going into prostitution.  But, the horror
stories of friends and aquaintences make me wanna go back to Tandy next time.
And I know I will -- once they fix up their business computers with the
three voice sound chip and digital sound

(as not all businesses wanna an extra card in there, but want something a LITTLE

better than a BEEP -- although the Tandy Sound stuff is WAY better than a Beep
:) )

--Ken

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21296 31JUL92-0102 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: 386 & 486 in the 1000 Series (Re: Msg 21286)
     From: KUDUT        To: BRIPLEY

I'm quite calm...  just too much coffee, I guess!

Keep into consideration that every message that I'm typing tonight (31-JUL)
is without my glasses present, which is making life difficult :)  Still,
I'll type away happily at 20/80 and 20/220 vision because I love it!

The world needs people like me (I should hope so!).  People who get excited
and motivated about something, even if its something that they themselves
can never be a part of.  In this case, I will sometime get the slot box,
even though I don't currently need the room.

OH - Just remembered something.  I'll save it for the next message....
read on....

--Ken

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21297 31JUL92-0106 T1000/1200/3000
     Coherent
     From: KUDUT        To: ALL

Does anyone have experience with Coherent?

Even though I don't yet have a 1.44meg disk drive on my Tandy 1000 TL (
I like reminding people, I suppose), I'll soon get one, which means that
I SHOULD be able to install and run Coherent on this system.

For those that don't know:

Coherent is a Unix-Like system that runs on 286 or higher machines with
1.44 or 1.2 floppy drives and 640K Ram.  Now, it might work on an XT with
1.44 or 1.2 meg floppies, but I'm not sure.  Anyway -- it allows you to
multitask (do many things at once), have multiple users on your syste
(a bbs would be a good application, along with the slot box!  for all the
modems!  hehe :D )
and a lot of other goodies.  You can choose between booting up with DOS or
with Coherent.  Best part is the price.

$99.00 from Mark Williams Company.  Check ou the Unix column in Computyer
Shopper.  It's listed there.  Excellent looking program.

Now my question again:  MIght it run on a Tandy 1000 TL?

--Ken

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21298 31JUL92-0113 T1000/1200/3000
     RE:  TX Tech manual (Re: Msg 21293)
     From: KUDUT        To: GLENTZ

Contact National Parts in Fort Worth.  The Number is 1-800-442-2425

Or go to your local Radio Shack, who will probably call the same number.
I might be wrong -- another dept. might handle this but...

order the Tech Ref manual.  I'm going to order one for my TL soon, as it
seems worth the price, whatever it is!

--Ken

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21299 31JUL92-0409 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21295)
     From: BRIPLEY      To: KUDUT

Hi Ken.  No, I most certainly don't hate * howevers *.  There wouldn't be
much stimulating conversation in the world without 'em. :)  Who's buying a
new computer rashly?  You might've assumed my `Slot Box/more memory versus
386 Box' cost comparison implied an imminent purchase decision on my part but
that's not so.  I was just trying to highlight the added `brain strain' some
poor Canadians (like me) must endure when it IS time to upgrade (read: When I
win a lottery).

I was excited by the Slot Box when I first saw them too but I currently have
better uses for the $400 Canadian dollars (like paying my rent ;> ).  I'm
sure it would be an expensive upgrade for many Americans, too.

Sorry to hear about your boyfriend's `lemon' system.  I guess there's a lot
of junk equipment out there that we must try to avoid.

You're right, too, about Tandy sound being way better than the beeps.  Since
I got VGA and switched drivers in my Jack Nicklaus golf game, I actually miss
the corny little tune that the Tandy driver used to play. :(

As for the rest of your most excellently passionate message, I agreed in my
last message.  It MIGHT be a couple of years before I get a newer computer
and its highly unlikely that I'll give up my `ten year Tandy tenure' (say
THAT three times fast) to another manufacturer.

HOPE YOU FOUND YOUR GLASSES. 8-)

Ben

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21300 31JUL92-1954 T1000/1200/3000
     RE: How Widespread are Tandy computers? (Re: Msg 21299)
     From: KUDUT        To: BRIPLEY

Yup - I found my glasses (BUT I'M NOT DEAF -- (no need to shout!) ;>

"most excellently passionate message".  I like that :)

When I mentioned that one has to watch out in making a rash 386 decision,
I really wasn't having you in mind... I was thinking generically of friends
of mine that upgraded rashly, getting the cheapest they could find,
excited by the new options, etc.... only to get snuffed by their respective
mail-order/store companies.

As with anything else, no one can really judge for you -- and if you're
wise about choosing a 386/486/586 (whatever) for your next computer (which
I'm sure you will be), then there's not a problem.  Just that being rash
now can bring many headaches later...  hope you didn't think I was judging
you, my Canadian friend with a rhyming name.

--Ken

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